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Speaker 1: we're here for today. For those who are just landing
Speaker 1: on the show, it's a tribute, a nod to the
Speaker 1: old Start Us show of the same ilk where I'm
Speaker 1: in a cocoon, guess what the subsequent lines weeks are
Speaker 1: going to be, and then Chris Andrews tells us what
Speaker 1: he's actually going to post at the end of the
Speaker 1: show here at the South Point Hotel Casino. And within
Speaker 1: that exercise we hope to extract value. Jason, good morning
Speaker 1: to you man. How are you good, Gil, how are you?
Speaker 1: We're good. All of us survived. We're all survivors. Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: hundred and three entries left out of nine. There was
Speaker 1: a hundred and five going into Sunday. One person picked
Speaker 1: the ram and one person didn't submit, so one oh
Speaker 1: three left. Wonder which is worse. One hundred and three
Speaker 1: survivor entries left and everybody got through. It didn't matter
Speaker 1: who you picked. And so we'll talk about that as
Speaker 1: we go on today. But let's bring him into the show.
Speaker 1: The star of the show, Ladies and Gentleman runs the
Speaker 1: south Wain Hotel, Casino, sports books, book, Chrissie Andrews. How
Speaker 1: you doing, Chris? I'm doing good, Jil, very good. Thank you?
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing well. You guys had a
Speaker 1: ridiculously great Sunday, didn't you. We had a ridiculously great
Speaker 1: week from Thursday on? And I always listen, I've been
Speaker 1: doing this a long time. Everybody knows that Thank Youiving
Speaker 1: Day is often times a blood bath for bookmakers. But
Speaker 1: you guys, like four free picks almost you bet against Detroit,
Speaker 1: you bet on Dallas, and you bet over in both games.
Speaker 1: And I've been saying that peers, and even this last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's only one game that upset the apple
Speaker 1: cart there and that was Dallas losing. But we wound
Speaker 1: up with a really good day Thursday and it just
Speaker 1: kept going and um, yeah, yesterday was the culmination of
Speaker 1: a very good weekend. What was your single biggest winner yesterday?
Speaker 1: The Raider game? What do you make of the Raiders?
Speaker 1: Good guy? We gotta get to them, just, you know,
Speaker 1: we will. That was I have like a grading system,
Speaker 1: should I use see here? And the Raiders had the
Speaker 1: worst I know, they had the worst grades. Uh, they
Speaker 1: were even three points worse than the Broncos. That's how
Speaker 1: bad they were. Yeah, there's a lot there's a lot
Speaker 1: of bad teams in the NFL, and there's a group
Speaker 1: of teams in the Mill. You have no idea are
Speaker 1: they good? Bad teams? Bad good teams? You just don't
Speaker 1: know it. Again every week, all right, let's not forget tonight.
Speaker 1: We have a game still in week twelve, Seattle at Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: where Seattle now is six and a half point favorites. Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we think, but we don't know that. We're going to
Speaker 1: get Baltimore at Pittsburgh that's up to ten now in
Speaker 1: favor of the Steelers. I don't I have no idea
Speaker 1: if that's going to happen or not. We'll get to
Speaker 1: the do we have the Adam Schefter tweet that just
Speaker 1: came out recently about this game. We have no idea
Speaker 1: if this is going to happen at this point with
Speaker 1: with Baltimore. And but here's what Adam Schefter had to
Speaker 1: say about this, and it goes a little something like
Speaker 1: this like this, NFL canceling Raven's practice schedule for this morning,
Speaker 1: per league source. Raven's last practice the Saturday before the
Speaker 1: Titans game currently scheduled to play in Pittsburgh on Tuesday night.
Speaker 1: Raven's travel plans and flux with snow forecasting in Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Am. So read into that what you will. Um,
Speaker 1: But let's start with Thursday night, week thirteen and try
Speaker 1: to see if we can maybe have some thoughts here
Speaker 1: heading into next week. There's a Thursday night came there,
Speaker 1: that's right scuttled Dallas Baltimore. I'm sorry, Dallas Baltimore got
Speaker 1: moved to Sunday. Sorry, I gotta keep up with all
Speaker 1: this or to Monday. So we have a we have
Speaker 1: a double header Monday, Monday at five pm Eastern. Say,
Speaker 1: I knew all this last week. It's all that Survivor
Speaker 1: met this this weekend. Yes, that's Monday, we think at
Speaker 1: this point though that will be contingent on what happens tomorrow. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll start Sunday morning then. Okay, before we even
Speaker 1: get to that, let me just tell you there's no
Speaker 1: lines anywhere on that Dallas game. So don't you know
Speaker 1: Dallas and Baltimore Monday game, So don't Yeah, it's Gil Alexander,
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews. This is a numbers game right here at
Speaker 1: Vicent guessing lines on a Monday morning. Okay, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, no line there. Well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: don't don't say it's time for that game on Monday.
Speaker 1: There's no lines anywhere. No one even knows, you know,
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? Hell Baltimore. So okay,
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, Yeah, Sunday morning. First up, the Lions, the
Speaker 1: new coach against the Bears, who didn't look so great
Speaker 1: last night Lions and Bears. Turns out Mr r Bisky
Speaker 1: is still not that good at football. Huh. Detroit at
Speaker 1: Detroit four and seven, and they did, in fact, fire
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and their GM Bob Quinn. Matt Patricia's final
Speaker 1: record with the Lions nine and one, remember Jim Caldwell
Speaker 1: before that was thirty six thirty six. General manager Bob
Speaker 1: Quinn twelve games under five hundred over five seasons. The Lions,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, get crushed by Houston for twenty five
Speaker 1: in a game that wasn't that close, in a game
Speaker 1: again that was marked by the Lions lollygagging at the
Speaker 1: end of both halves in the first half, down nine,
Speaker 1: just refusing to realize they had three timeouts in pocket
Speaker 1: and just absolutely used none of them and made no
Speaker 1: sense what they did at the end of the at
Speaker 1: the end of the first half, just let the clock
Speaker 1: run from a second and ten with forty six seconds
Speaker 1: left all the way down to twenty five seconds. Punted,
Speaker 1: got sacked with seventy It was terrible. And then the
Speaker 1: end of the game, Yeah, they probably weren't gonna win,
Speaker 1: but they got it from sixteen and then they just decided,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna lollygag down the field too. We we
Speaker 1: have no no clue about what we're doing here, and
Speaker 1: that's probably why that was the final straw for Patricia
Speaker 1: and Bob Quinn there. Uh so Detroit is in that
Speaker 1: situation there four and seven extra rest. I suppose I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to say that in the Chicago last night. Uh
Speaker 1: they were pretty terrible against Green Bay. The final score
Speaker 1: was more cosmetic than anything. Fifteen unanswered at the end
Speaker 1: for the Bears and Mitch Drabinsky. But they were not
Speaker 1: good last night at all. Trabisky twenty six of forty
Speaker 1: six or two forty two looks better on paper than
Speaker 1: it was. Three touchdowns, two pick sack three times. David
Speaker 1: Montgomery eleven for one oh three, a lot of that
Speaker 1: on one big carry. Robinson the best player on the
Speaker 1: team eight eight for seventy four two touchdowns, but they
Speaker 1: were minus three in turnovers. They only had the ball
Speaker 1: twenty two minutes and seventeen seconds against the Packers. They
Speaker 1: get crushed in that game. Uh, forty one to twenty five,
Speaker 1: as I said, not as close as it seemed as
Speaker 1: seven and a half eight it's called eight and a
Speaker 1: half point Dogs closing was eight on that I'll say
Speaker 1: Chicago minus three just because I don't know what else
Speaker 1: to make it. Well, you're light, it's five and a half.
Speaker 1: Uh see one six that uh you know, my power
Speaker 1: radis came to five and it's you know, kind of
Speaker 1: a difficult thing with Detroy situation in flux. But the
Speaker 1: Bears really looked awful. I said, I still make them.
Speaker 1: I made them five. I'm an opening in five and
Speaker 1: a half. That's pretty much where I see, although I
Speaker 1: do see one six. And the issue with that game,
Speaker 1: of course, and the reason I have the three and
Speaker 1: you have a five and a half is because we
Speaker 1: don't know who's playing right for Detroit. Will Amandola be
Speaker 1: back forgetting Amadola. For a second, will Kenny Golladay be back?
Speaker 1: Will DeAndre Swift be back? That will make that will
Speaker 1: make a bunch of difference once you have multiple bodies
Speaker 1: back like that. So um, okay, I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go too crazy about that difference because again
Speaker 1: the Lions, we don't really know what we're getting. What's next? Okay,
Speaker 1: before we move on, I wanna you know some maybe
Speaker 1: some people on Twitter can help me out here. I
Speaker 1: started thinking about because Patricia obviously wasn't doing the job.
Speaker 1: He deserved to get five He was a terrific coordinator.
Speaker 1: Though let's not take that away from what I look
Speaker 1: at is when these guys hired coaches, they're hiring a
Speaker 1: head coach, except for two exceptions, they hire um coordinators
Speaker 1: who are doing really well. You know, it's not the
Speaker 1: same job being a coordinator and being a head coach.
Speaker 1: The head coach has multiple people under him that he's
Speaker 1: trying to get the best out of those people. So
Speaker 1: I went through and I probably missed somebody, and that's
Speaker 1: a massive Twitter to correct me here, help me out here.
Speaker 1: The two guys who are not who were not coordinators
Speaker 1: that have head coaching jobs probably the second and third
Speaker 1: best coaches in the league, and that's John Harbaugh and
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. How is there anyone else out there who
Speaker 1: was not a coordinator and and you know Harbaugh arguably
Speaker 1: was the special teams coordinator, but you know that's not
Speaker 1: a going re position as a coach. And I just
Speaker 1: wonder to present any one, I think other ones out there,
Speaker 1: because you see some of these guys, you know, like
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, he was a health coordinator, wasn't very good
Speaker 1: head coach. I mean, we'd run down the line the
Speaker 1: same thing, and I always say say the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's they all look great on the way in. They
Speaker 1: all look so great on the way out, right, But
Speaker 1: I'm just one that for another coach who who was
Speaker 1: not a coordinator. It's a great point, Chrissy. And also,
Speaker 1: you know I asked this of Lombardi, of Michael Lombardi
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back. Do we know, like because
Speaker 1: one of the hot coaches, hot coaching commodities, you hear
Speaker 1: out there is a guy like Eric bi Enemy. Well,
Speaker 1: we have examples of Chief's coordinators not doing so well
Speaker 1: as head coaches, right, Like how do we know that
Speaker 1: he's any different from anybody else. Maybe he is, but
Speaker 1: I don't know that he is. You're right, it's a
Speaker 1: different gig. What about Vrabel, No, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Tomlin was defensive coordinator in Minnesota. I've got to look
Speaker 1: it up. But I thought he had coordinator experience. He wasn't.
Speaker 1: I think he was the defense I think it was
Speaker 1: the linebacker, defensive coach. I don't think he was like
Speaker 1: the coordinator. I might be wrong. Yeah, you know, he
Speaker 1: certainly didn't get that job for being such a growing coordinator.
Speaker 1: That's what got That's not what got him the job. Rabel.
Speaker 1: You might have a point there. I'm not. I didn't
Speaker 1: think about I thought you might have been a defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: Mike tell you, Yeah, Mike Tomlin was the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: for the Vikings for one year two thousand six, So
Speaker 1: just for one year. Um, that's on there. And then
Speaker 1: the case of in a case of Mike Vrabel, Vrabel
Speaker 1: was defensive coordinator for the Texans for the year before.
Speaker 1: At least we're stint there. So yeah, but briefly for
Speaker 1: both of those guys. All right, anyway, next game, what
Speaker 1: do we got on Sunday. Next game Bengals at the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Bengals at the Dolphins. Oh, the Bengals to eight and one,
Speaker 1: could have taken out the Giants and survivor, but couldn't
Speaker 1: do it. Had the ball, couldn't do it. You want
Speaker 1: to talk about coaching records, Zach Taylor four in one
Speaker 1: in two seasons with the Bagles. Now, how about this.
Speaker 1: They're one thirteen in one in one possession game since
Speaker 1: the start of last season. Let me repeat that, one
Speaker 1: thirteen and one one possession games. The Bengals worst in
Speaker 1: the NFL since the start of last season. Brandon Allen
Speaker 1: seventeen for twenty nine, one thirty six and his debut
Speaker 1: against the Giants. Zach Taylor said he's going with him
Speaker 1: next week against the Dolphins. Said, gave us a chance,
Speaker 1: did some things I love that, did some things football
Speaker 1: coach speak, one touchdown, one pain. He was sacked twice.
Speaker 1: The Bengals had a grand total of eleven first downs,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five total yards of offense, forty rushing,
Speaker 1: and they were minus two in turnovers against the Giants.
Speaker 1: They were out time of possessioned thirty seven twenty six
Speaker 1: thirty four and but remember one of their scores was
Speaker 1: a kickoff return for a touchdown for Brandon Wilson a
Speaker 1: hundred three yards. And despite all of that, they got
Speaker 1: within two points with two thirty three left. Uh Man.
Speaker 1: And then Brandon Alan fumbled while being sacked with fifty
Speaker 1: seven seconds left to seal it for the Giants. And
Speaker 1: as I said, Zach Taylor said, I'm sticking with Alan.
Speaker 1: Miami beats the Jets. Uh that's not breaking news. Jets
Speaker 1: go to eleven. We'll get to them later. Miami's now
Speaker 1: won six of sevens and starting one and three. This
Speaker 1: was Ryan Fitzpatrick, not to a Tago vloa Volo was
Speaker 1: Tago Volo was inactive with a left thumb injury. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins now seven and oh. When leading at halftime this season,
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatch was twenty four thirty nine for two fifty
Speaker 1: seven two touchdowns note pix. He was sacked four times.
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker was eight had eight catches for a hundred
Speaker 1: nineteen yards. Now, I'm not saying the Jets would have
Speaker 1: won this football game, but did you see that DeVante
Speaker 1: Parker catch that was ruled to catch even after replay
Speaker 1: on the dolphins first go ahead touchdown drive. This might
Speaker 1: have been the worst call in NFL history, and I
Speaker 1: really am not given to hyperbole on this stuff. This
Speaker 1: was awful. He got a nineteen yard catch despite not
Speaker 1: appearing to ever fully control the football before Getry knocked
Speaker 1: it out of his hands for the Jets. Gaze Adam
Speaker 1: Gates challenged the call. TV replay seemed to support the
Speaker 1: Jets argument, but it was upheld. The Dolphins scored four
Speaker 1: plays later, and I'm just like, the Jets are not
Speaker 1: only bad, but they get the Scrooge Up of the
Speaker 1: year on that, Like, this is terrible, and you never
Speaker 1: know how plays like that, because that was the third dampot.
Speaker 1: You never know how plays like that can change a game.
Speaker 1: Jason Sanders, by the way, kicked field goals of fifty
Speaker 1: four and fifty one yards for the Dolphins as well,
Speaker 1: giving him an NFL leading eight from fifty or more yards.
Speaker 1: He's like, justin Tucker light, he's that good. I'll say
Speaker 1: the Dolphins will be ten point favorites here. No less,
Speaker 1: that's what I made it. I see it higher. I
Speaker 1: see eleven, eleven and a half. Take your choice for
Speaker 1: both numbers out there. I'm gonna open eleven because you know, well,
Speaker 1: they do have a lot of one score games. The Bengals.
Speaker 1: They managed to blow every one of them but one,
Speaker 1: I guess in the last two years with Taylor to Helm.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think they'll probably listen pen eleven. We're
Speaker 1: cutting it pretty fine. But I like the eleven better
Speaker 1: than the eleven and a half. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Bryant Flores who was not a coordinator, so that guy
Speaker 1: who like, there you go, doing a hell of the
Speaker 1: job of the All right, Uh, those are two non
Speaker 1: exciting games, by the way. To start things off, what's third?
Speaker 1: Colts at the Texans and you are posting what are
Speaker 1: you posting for the Dolphins game? Again? Just for record keeping? Eleven?
Speaker 1: I'm open eleven. Eleven, Okay, Colts of the Texans. Seven
Speaker 1: and four Colts at the four and seven Texans. Indianapolis
Speaker 1: losing to the Titans and therefore getting knocked out of
Speaker 1: first place in the a f C South that now
Speaker 1: belongs to the Titans. Titans crushed in forty five to
Speaker 1: twenty six. We'll get to the Titans momentarily, but that
Speaker 1: was all out destruction in the first half. Indianapolis allowed
Speaker 1: more points in the first half of that game, thirty
Speaker 1: five of then they had in any full game this season.
Speaker 1: They were out rushed in the first half to twenty
Speaker 1: nine to fifty six. They allowed three hundred forty six
Speaker 1: total yards in the first half. Philip Rivers too touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick, he was sacked once. Then there's Houston extra
Speaker 1: rest as we mentioned beating the Lions handily. Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: with a pair of go ahead touchdowns in the first
Speaker 1: half through for two more scores in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Uh to have the Texans pull away from the Lions
Speaker 1: forty one twenty five. Remember J. J. Watt had the
Speaker 1: pick six. DeShawn was seventeen of twenty five for three
Speaker 1: eighteen four touchdowns, no picks in that game, will full
Speaker 1: of the fifth his biggest target six for one seventy
Speaker 1: one and two touchdowns. But the Texans were sloppy. Remember
Speaker 1: how many penalties they had in that game, and there
Speaker 1: was a bunch denied excuse me, UH declined as well,
Speaker 1: So in the end it was ten penalties or seventy
Speaker 1: four yards. But I mean, they were just shooting themselves
Speaker 1: in the foot. Is just the Detroit was so bad
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. They were plus two turnovers in that game,
Speaker 1: and that the trick play late h India at Houston.
Speaker 1: Huge game now for Indie as they're out of the
Speaker 1: top spot and there in the wild card mix. After
Speaker 1: that Houston performance in the extra rest, I don't think
Speaker 1: Indie can be that big of a favorite here, even
Speaker 1: though again it doesn't matter that you're on the road.
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that that's factored in here. I'll
Speaker 1: say Indian Apples minus three and a half. So the
Speaker 1: first time in the show, I liked your number better.
Speaker 1: It's a two and a half. The Colts my power
Speaker 1: rating from the five. If you look back at this
Speaker 1: text and the team. Now there's two wins against the Jags.
Speaker 1: They have win against you know, a letterless ship and
Speaker 1: the Lions, and then they beat the Patriots, which is
Speaker 1: pretty good. Okay, that's their four wins. I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it's a classic, you know by low Sell
Speaker 1: high moment, because the whole world saw the Houston Texans
Speaker 1: went on Thursday, Like I said, against the Runner the Ship,
Speaker 1: the Colts look awful yesterday. I've forgot the last play,
Speaker 1: well last significant play of the game. They tried the
Speaker 1: ontie kick and the guy returned it for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So there's an extra seven points against them that you know,
Speaker 1: not really inagoration. Um, so I think that that number
Speaker 1: I like fining as certainly a lot better than the
Speaker 1: two and a half. But my numbers come to five
Speaker 1: right now. I see the game two and a half one,
Speaker 1: two spots with a little bit of juice on the favorite,
Speaker 1: one spot, three with the juice on the dog. Um, well,
Speaker 1: we do everything eleven at ten at South when everybody
Speaker 1: knows that I'm gonna debate that one, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna if that three holes out there, I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: it three. If not, i'll open it too and half
Speaker 1: because I know I'm just inviting in action if I don't,
Speaker 1: but I'm probably probably gonna open three. I'll lay the
Speaker 1: two and a half if I can find that on Indianapolis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that total. I think you're buying low and Teche.
Speaker 1: I agree. Let's try to get one more in here.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville at the Vikings, Jacksonville at the Vikings. Man, these
Speaker 1: are barn burners, huh, Jacksonville. Jacksonville's one in ten, but
Speaker 1: they had the ball with a chance to tie it
Speaker 1: up yesterday against Cleveland would have had survivor implications or
Speaker 1: at least would have forced an overtime or or a
Speaker 1: frenzy at the end of the game in regulation. Jacksonville
Speaker 1: one in ten. Now they said a single season franchise
Speaker 1: record by losing their tenth consecutive game yesterday, and they
Speaker 1: fired their GM. By the way, Dave Caldwell, the owner,
Speaker 1: con says the that Doug Maron is safe till the
Speaker 1: end of the year. Oh, that's wonderful. Uh. Caldwell has
Speaker 1: been the GM since January, presided over only one winning season.
Speaker 1: Jacks thirty nine and eighties six in his tenure have
Speaker 1: lost ten or more games in every season under Caldwell
Speaker 1: X up twenties seventeen. Remember that glorious season where they
Speaker 1: got to the you know, a f C championship. Um
Speaker 1: glenn On Mike Glennon Yesterday thirty five or two thirty five,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns note Picks wasn't sacked, Robinson one twenty a touchdown,
Speaker 1: Colin Johnson four for ninety six and a touchdown, but
Speaker 1: all for not couldn't get the two point conversion. Brown's
Speaker 1: beat him by two and then there's Minnesota, who, like
Speaker 1: so many games yesterday, looked like they were dead in
Speaker 1: the water, and then not so much. They beat the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers yesterday twenty eight to twenty seven. Huge for
Speaker 1: any possible playoff hopes for the Vikings. Joey Slide missing
Speaker 1: a fifty four yard for the Panthers with the second left.
Speaker 1: UH that after Jeremy Chinn of Carolina had two fumble
Speaker 1: recovery returns for touchdowns on two consecutive plays the first
Speaker 1: minute of the third quarter. I said, I've never seen
Speaker 1: that in my life, and there's a reason for that.
Speaker 1: Only one other player has ever had two fumble scoops
Speaker 1: for touchdowns in a game ever, let alone to consecutive plays.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins third before forty five three oh seven, three
Speaker 1: touchdowns Doe picks. He was sacked twice. He was twelve
Speaker 1: of fifteen in the fourth quarter for one thirty six
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. When the game was decided, Jefferson justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson seven for seventy two touchdowns. The Vikings win it. Besides,
Speaker 1: despite being minus two and turnovers, those two turnovers we
Speaker 1: talked about being the difference UH three turnovers for the
Speaker 1: Vikings in total, I'll say Minnesota, that's against Jacksonville. It's
Speaker 1: gotta be more than a I'll split the difference between
Speaker 1: seven and ten. I'll say minus eight and a half.
Speaker 1: And we'll come back and we'll get Chrissy's response coming
Speaker 1: back on guessing lines right here on the numbers game
Speaker 1: at Visa these Sports Betting network. All right, Jacksonville in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: A get I guess eight and a half? Three two
Speaker 1: segments were in a third. I'm sorry he good side
Speaker 1: checked Tiratings came to level. I see the game anywhere
Speaker 1: from nine to ten tens with the juice on the
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open nine and a half. But i gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, if I've seen this thing creeping up, I'm
Speaker 1: going up because I think the Vikings game, I know
Speaker 1: they pulled out of laid victor. Did you give up
Speaker 1: to defensive touchdowns in ten seconds? I mean to the
Speaker 1: same guy, I mean, I'm sorry, that's you got to
Speaker 1: kind of throw that out of your handicapping. If it happens.
Speaker 1: That happens, but you can't dand the camp with that.
Speaker 1: You can't but that those two scores affects your number,
Speaker 1: That much, but I like the higher number open ten
Speaker 1: and half. I see the tens hold or go to flat.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to tend myself. Okay, um, yeah, nothing
Speaker 1: more to be said there. Okay. Next one, your team,
Speaker 1: the football team, yes, versus my team the Steelers. Oh season,
Speaker 1: maybe not so? Yes? The football team, Man did they
Speaker 1: make weren't they great? Flying around on defense against the Cowboys? Man?
Speaker 1: That was funny and the cowboys then then the Cowboys
Speaker 1: decided to just try a fourth and tent at their
Speaker 1: own twenty four with over twelve minutes left, down four,
Speaker 1: and that was that. Katie or the door. Washington has
Speaker 1: won three times in the last five games. They are
Speaker 1: a top at least until tonight the Eagles can retake
Speaker 1: the lead. In the NFC East. Washington is in a
Speaker 1: tie with the Giants, although technically the Giants beat them twice,
Speaker 1: so the Giants would actually be a top the NFCS. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you get the idea of the Skins washing football team
Speaker 1: four and seven. Alex Smith was nineteen twenty six or
Speaker 1: one forty nine. Didn't do all that much one touchdown,
Speaker 1: one pick, sack three times. Antonio Gibson twenty carries, for
Speaker 1: one fifteen three touchdowns and Terry mclaurins seven catches for
Speaker 1: ninety two and of course the rundown of Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: to prevent the tying touchdown before the Cowboys had to
Speaker 1: settle for a field goal. There. In the second half,
Speaker 1: they were seven of thirteen on third down, There were
Speaker 1: one on one for one on fourth, had a time
Speaker 1: possession advantage over Dallas thirty fifty four. Uh you know, okay, great,
Speaker 1: Now they're playing the Steelers. The Steelers again, we you know,
Speaker 1: site unseen this week. We don't know if they're playing
Speaker 1: the Ravens tomorrow night. We shall see. But Pittsburgh's got
Speaker 1: to be at least a double digit favorite here, right,
Speaker 1: I'll say ten. I see nine and a half, but
Speaker 1: mostly ten. You know, only I got open ten I got.
Speaker 1: I think it's a shade high. I only made it
Speaker 1: at nine and a half myself. Your team is playing
Speaker 1: some pretty decent football. Of course my team is too,
Speaker 1: but you know, they they even having a laying down
Speaker 1: against certain teams, and this looks like a perfect spot
Speaker 1: for that not to be that up for it, because
Speaker 1: they've been on tenident needles since last Thursday, trying to
Speaker 1: figure out they're actually playing their division rival and if
Speaker 1: they beat them, which I think they will if they
Speaker 1: actually play, I see a possible left on spot for
Speaker 1: the Steeler. So I wouldn't want to get too far
Speaker 1: ahead of myself here, but I think ten and decent
Speaker 1: numberst on. I'm gonna open alright, just from a fan standpoint,
Speaker 1: these games are awful so far. The once you've told me,
Speaker 1: what's the last? Yeah, okay, here's one at the Jets.
Speaker 1: Raiders at the Jets. Uh boy, what do you what
Speaker 1: do you make of the Raiders? I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: few of these teams. We'll get to the Rams and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals later, but the Raiders. Derek Cary yesterday twenty
Speaker 1: two of thirty four for two fifteen no touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: He was picked off once it was a pick six
Speaker 1: Dion Jones, and he lost three fumbles, was sacked three times,
Speaker 1: three fumbles lost. The Raiders had a grand total of
Speaker 1: twelve first downs against the Atlanta Falcons in what was
Speaker 1: a absolute drubbing forty three to six, and the Raiders
Speaker 1: were three and a half point favorites in that game.
Speaker 1: So again, twelve total first downs, forty rushing yards five
Speaker 1: total turnovers minus four in turnover difference. They were flagged
Speaker 1: eleven times for a hundred forty one yards just for
Speaker 1: good measure. Now they're six and five. They did the
Speaker 1: exact same thing last year, Christie, they were six and four.
Speaker 1: They got beat by the Jets thirty four to three
Speaker 1: at this point last year, exact same thing. Now they're
Speaker 1: six and five on the outside looking in. And then
Speaker 1: there's the Jets we talked about earlier and eleven. They're
Speaker 1: the fifteenth team to start Owen eleven since nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1: That since the merger. Eleven games. Skid is the second
Speaker 1: longest in team history, one game short of the losing
Speaker 1: streak in ninety six teams under Rich code tight and
Speaker 1: whenever your reference code type, you know it's bad. Fourteenth
Speaker 1: double digit loss in two seasons under Adam Gaze. By
Speaker 1: the way, Gas appeared to reclaim play calling duties from
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator didn't work out. Donald six one ninety seven,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, two picks, sack three times, ninth career game
Speaker 1: for Donald with two plus picks their O and nine.
Speaker 1: In those games, they had a grand total of ten
Speaker 1: first downs against the Dolphins. There were three of thirteen
Speaker 1: on third, they were zero for one on four. They
Speaker 1: only had two sixty total yards. But it's the Raiders
Speaker 1: at the Jets, and I'll make it quick this. We
Speaker 1: have last week as a reference point. The Dolphins were
Speaker 1: about a touchdown favorite, so I'll say the Raiders will
Speaker 1: be about a touchdown favorite. I'll say minus seven on
Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, it's more like seven and a half,
Speaker 1: although I see somewhat juice of a dog a seven half,
Speaker 1: you know, I like the seven a half. I like
Speaker 1: it even higher than that, you know. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: not forget how horrible this Jets team is. And I
Speaker 1: feel like one of those Olympic skating judges. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna throw out that last game. They're ready to throw
Speaker 1: off that score. You know. Just games have a chance,
Speaker 1: and I think can take the lights of their own
Speaker 1: and I think I think they did with this Raider game.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna throw that one out of it,
Speaker 1: you know, just a law existent and I think this
Speaker 1: number really should be a lot higher, Like, don't forget
Speaker 1: how just absolutely horrible this Jet team is. So I'm
Speaker 1: opening seven half only because I see some sevens around.
Speaker 1: If I see this creeping higher. I'm going higher. Do
Speaker 1: you trust the Raiders and Survivor I'm saying, I'm putting
Speaker 1: this out to the world. If you're in Survivor, you
Speaker 1: trust Jets haven't won since the Eisenhower them. You have
Speaker 1: to consider them. You have to consider them. They're part
Speaker 1: of the group. If you have Pittsburgh left, you'd have
Speaker 1: to consider them. I mean, we've had a lot of
Speaker 1: big numbers already. Minnesota against Jacksonville we already talked about.
Speaker 1: You'd have to consider them. Geez, Miami, if you still
Speaker 1: have them, you'd have to consider them against the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Like every game we've gotten to has almost been a
Speaker 1: potential Survivor pick. Wasn't a fitting of the herd yesterday
Speaker 1: in Circa? It could be next week because there's a
Speaker 1: mine amongst them. It's a minefield. There's definitely a mine
Speaker 1: amongst them. We'll come back. We're guessing lines week thirteen
Speaker 1: with Chrissy next on a numbers game a visa the
Speaker 1: Sports Betting Network Skill Alexander. It's Chris Andrews. Everybody, my Misha.
Speaker 1: We're guessing lines for week thirteen. So far, Chrissy, if
Speaker 1: I just like sort of stopping double back for a second.
Speaker 1: The only thing I've really liked is if you're telling
Speaker 1: me you're giving me the Cults at minus two and
Speaker 1: a half at Houston. That's the one so far. But man,
Speaker 1: didn't games. I mean those four games I just mentioned
Speaker 1: to break for like close to double digit, if not
Speaker 1: double digit favorites, all survivor possibilities. This will be an
Speaker 1: interesting week, interesting week. All right, these are still early games. Now,
Speaker 1: we're still talking early games. Okay, what is next? Very
Speaker 1: pretty good games at the Falcons, Saints at the Falcons. Alright.
Speaker 1: Uh so the Saints were the beneficiaries yesterday of what
Speaker 1: went down with the Broncos, and again the Broncos three
Speaker 1: eligible quarterbacks, Drew Lock, Brett RiPP and Blake Bortles all
Speaker 1: were each deemed to be high risk COVID nineteen close contacts.
Speaker 1: None of the three were allowed in uniform for the
Speaker 1: game yesterday. That was announced Saturday night. Denver's uh statement
Speaker 1: didn't say who the players came in contact with, but
Speaker 1: jeff Driscoll was the positive COVID nineteen at least initially
Speaker 1: they didn't say it was Jeffrey School, but they were
Speaker 1: all on the quarterback meeting together. Vic Fangio, Broncos coach
Speaker 1: had previously said that running back Royce Free would be
Speaker 1: the team's emergency quarterback. Instead, they went with former Wake
Speaker 1: Forest quarterback turned wide receiver Kendall Hinton got him off
Speaker 1: the practice squad. That didn't go so well, and so
Speaker 1: Circa reopened the line at New Orleans minus thirteen. Where
Speaker 1: did you reopen it, Chrissy, Yeah, I went to fourteen,
Speaker 1: queven fourteen, a half fifty at fifteen, got to seventeen
Speaker 1: by the end in favor of New Orleans. I wasn't
Speaker 1: high enough. New Orleans ends up beating the Broncos yesterday
Speaker 1: by the score U It was the final score, thirty
Speaker 1: one to three, and Sean Payton went, you know what,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do anything on offense because we're not
Speaker 1: gonna We're not gonna even risk making mistakes to give
Speaker 1: you guys a chance of the eighth straight win for
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Taysom Hill in the end was nine of
Speaker 1: sixteen for seventy eight yards, no touchdowns. He threw the
Speaker 1: one pick and that was the end of that. H
Speaker 1: was sacked three times ten for forty four on the ground.
Speaker 1: Two touchdowns on the ground hit a pass a rating
Speaker 1: of forty three point two. Remember that's at a one
Speaker 1: fifty eight point three. At halftime, the Saints and Broncos
Speaker 1: had both combined for one yard passing. Wow. Let's Abas
Speaker 1: Murray two touchdowns himself the Saints since the start of
Speaker 1: last season seven and oh now without Drew Brees. And
Speaker 1: there's Atlanta, who we mentioned crushed the Raiders forty three
Speaker 1: to six. Atlanta moves to four and seven. Remember dan
Speaker 1: Quinn was scuttled, So so the order of events this
Speaker 1: year with coaches was Bill O'Brien coach GM first with
Speaker 1: the Texans, then Dan Quinn and his GM to meet
Speaker 1: her off next until yesterday when it was Patricia uh
Speaker 1: and the GM as well in Detroit. But Dion Jones
Speaker 1: returned to pick yesterday sixty seven yards for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Remember off Derek Carr, Matt Ryan threw a pair of
Speaker 1: short scoring passes. Falcons thoroughly dominated Derek Carr in the
Speaker 1: bumbling Las Vegas Raiders forty three to six. Remember they
Speaker 1: played without Julio Jones and without Odd Girly still crushed him.
Speaker 1: And then young Young Wake kupa connected from fifty four
Speaker 1: stretching his fieldheal Street to one straight. Ryan was thirty
Speaker 1: nine six, didn't have to do much. Two touchdowns, one pick,
Speaker 1: sack ones. They were plus four in turnovers as we
Speaker 1: mentioned Jacob but Toyoto Mariners sack to fumble, two fumbles,
Speaker 1: Furce two fumble recoveries. Um, okay, this is interesting because
Speaker 1: we know that this will not be Drew Brees. This
Speaker 1: is the last of three games where Drew Brees absolutely
Speaker 1: may not play. They're they're estimating that Breese won't be
Speaker 1: back the next week either when he would technically be eligible,
Speaker 1: but they're probably they're saying probably an additional week. Do
Speaker 1: we really think they're being honest with us about Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: They haven't been from the beginning? Have they eleven cracked ribs?
Speaker 1: Almost half as they're just need to know, they're just
Speaker 1: Thomas as little as they possibly can tell us about
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. You're right, I think he will be in
Speaker 1: the booth by the playoffs. Unfortunate. Now here's the thing, Chrissie.
Speaker 1: After Taysom Hills, you know, half of it was game
Speaker 1: planned yesterday. Half of it. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: how we're going to interpret that. But I guess what
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm trying to sort of talk myself into
Speaker 1: now is New Orleans is going to be a favorite,
Speaker 1: But they can't really be that big of a favorite here, right,
Speaker 1: So I very gingerly will say New Orleans minus four,
Speaker 1: well you're a shade high, although once again I like
Speaker 1: your number better. Um it's three juice. I'm a favorite,
Speaker 1: three and a half juice on the dog. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: open three and a half. Like I said, you know,
Speaker 1: the Saints were completely under wrap yesterday. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm throwing that game completely out the falcon. It's like
Speaker 1: I said, game, Sometimes games take on a light of
Speaker 1: their own, and that's what happened that uh Atlanta game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's not forget there's still Atlanta and they're playing a
Speaker 1: lot better now with Raheim Horses the headman, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a team that probably should have been this
Speaker 1: good all year. But you mentioned what the Saints or
Speaker 1: seven and oh about Teddy Bridgewater without Drew Brees. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: Teddy teddie one for those games in it. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so I'm not lowering them that much just because breathes
Speaker 1: out so I like the higher number. You know, I
Speaker 1: guess that my numbers came to five, maybe four, depending
Speaker 1: on how to look at a couple of things. But uh,
Speaker 1: I think I think three is too low, and I
Speaker 1: think three and a half of even maybe a shade
Speaker 1: too low. But I'm gonna open three and a half
Speaker 1: just because I see some lower numbers out there. Can
Speaker 1: we get a good game, Chris? Can you? Can you
Speaker 1: serve up a good game? Wow? These are just that's
Speaker 1: the one. It has been bad this next time the
Speaker 1: Browns at the Titans. Oh well, that is at least
Speaker 1: again I'm just talking about from a fan's perspective, like
Speaker 1: you know, real life playoff implications. There. That's a game
Speaker 1: right there, right Eton three Browns, eight and three Titans. Now,
Speaker 1: I think the Browns are a paper tiger, but still
Speaker 1: eight and three Browns at the eight and three Titans.
Speaker 1: Titans now lead the a f C South. The Browns
Speaker 1: improved eight and three for the first time since nineteen
Speaker 1: nine four yesterday, and again Jaguars had the ball, needed
Speaker 1: a two point conversion to tie it up late, couldn't
Speaker 1: do it. But that's the first eight and three start
Speaker 1: for the Browns. Ninety four when they were eleven and
Speaker 1: five under Bill Belichick. It's their most wins eight in
Speaker 1: thirteen years, So congratulations Browns fans. Baker Mayfield actually put
Speaker 1: some stats up yesterday. Ninety nine for two fifty eight.
Speaker 1: I guess that's something based on where it was before.
Speaker 1: Two touchdowns, No Pixie Sack twice, Nick Chubb nine on
Speaker 1: a touchdown, Jarvis Landry eight catches for one forty three
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. Browns had four hundred fifty nine total
Speaker 1: yards two hundred seven rushing. But again it was against
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and so you know, like what what does
Speaker 1: that mean? And then there's Tennessee. Tennessee with the a
Speaker 1: f C South lead, as we mentioned, beat the Colts yesterday.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry in the first half seventeen for one forty
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns, ended up twenty seven for one seventy
Speaker 1: eight and three touchdowns. The Titans, as they typically do,
Speaker 1: two hundred twenty nine total rushing yards fill up the
Speaker 1: rushing part of the stat sheet. Colts were missing three
Speaker 1: key starters, including Pro Bowl defensive tackle Deforced Buckner, who
Speaker 1: was on the reserve COVID nineteen list. Though yesterday and
Speaker 1: the Titans took complete advantage of that. With thirty five
Speaker 1: minutes and thirty three seconds of the clock, Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: didn't have to do much thirteen twenty one one touchdown
Speaker 1: note picks sac Once and A J. Brown as you
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, four catches for ninety eight yards and the
Speaker 1: touchdowns and a special teams touchdown at the end on
Speaker 1: the on side kick which made the score look even
Speaker 1: worse than it actually was. The final score of that
Speaker 1: game between the Titan of the Colts forty five to
Speaker 1: twenty six, but that was destruction was thirty five to
Speaker 1: fourteen in the first half. So this is the first
Speaker 1: good game Marquee wise. On paper. I'm all about Tennessee.
Speaker 1: That's the one team I've consistently had. We do. Our
Speaker 1: top ten rankings are power rankings on primetime matching on
Speaker 1: MSG plus. I've always been higher on Tennessee than everybody else.
Speaker 1: I remain high on them. This can't be quite a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I'll say Tennessee minus six and a half here, Oh wow,
Speaker 1: you're you're still high. Uh it's five and a half,
Speaker 1: like a couple of fives. But there's this team opened
Speaker 1: four last night. Um and it's been on a steady
Speaker 1: climber since. I can't say I disagree with that. You know, um,
Speaker 1: I do like a lot of things about the brown
Speaker 1: and I think they have a really good lineup up
Speaker 1: and down. I love their coach. You never know what
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield you're getting. You know, if there's good Baker,
Speaker 1: they could absolutely win this game. It's not good Baker,
Speaker 1: then you know they won't. Uh you know, what do
Speaker 1: you say? Six? And if I don't want to say
Speaker 1: I like the number bearer, I don't because I thought
Speaker 1: this number. I thought five is a good number. I
Speaker 1: thought the four that opened last night was just too late.
Speaker 1: I see five, five and a. I'm gonna open five
Speaker 1: and half. I think that's okay because if Browns do
Speaker 1: play some close games, and uh, you know, I think,
Speaker 1: like I said, good mate, if good Baker shows up,
Speaker 1: they got a chance to win this game out right.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with five and as. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: we had done this show last night and I'd heard
Speaker 1: the four, I would have been incredulous about the four.
Speaker 1: I just don't. I mean, I don't know how you
Speaker 1: feel Cleveland is among that group. Well, no, they're not,
Speaker 1: actually like Eric to me Arizona, the Raiders, the Rams,
Speaker 1: like from week to week, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: I'm getting with him. Cleveland's a little different. Cleveland a
Speaker 1: little different because they played all these inclement weather games
Speaker 1: and they played Jacksonville yesterday. Like I kind of think
Speaker 1: I do know what they are, Like, I just don't
Speaker 1: think they're that good. I could be wrong, but like
Speaker 1: they're not scared. Like eight and three is the total
Speaker 1: paper Tiger record, you would agree, right, Yeah, Like I said,
Speaker 1: it just depends on what Baker you're getting if if
Speaker 1: it's if he shows up playing as well as a
Speaker 1: potential is. I think they're a very good team because
Speaker 1: the rest of lineup is today to have us from
Speaker 1: roster and a good coach. So I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's where consistent. That's where we might disagree because I don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't think Baker's all that great. I think
Speaker 1: in the end and I and maybe it's too early,
Speaker 1: maybe he ends up being great, but like right now,
Speaker 1: I think he's just not good more than he is inconsistent.
Speaker 1: I think he got to give credit to Stefanski, he's
Speaker 1: really uh coached that team well, got a great running game.
Speaker 1: They've made the look they play, who's in front of him?
Speaker 1: And certainly the weather as has been an issue with them,
Speaker 1: had some COVID problems as well that haven't had Myles Garrett,
Speaker 1: So I'll get him credit eight and three. Nothing to
Speaker 1: sneeze that, but I like Tennessee there in that ball game.
Speaker 1: We'll come back. We're a little more than halfway through
Speaker 1: guessing lines Week thirteen in the National Football League with
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews right here on the numbers game with Visa
Speaker 1: the Sports betting network. Chris I am told by Jason
Speaker 1: that that was the actual dividing line between the early
Speaker 1: games and the late games. So all of those were
Speaker 1: early All those were early eight eight games in the
Speaker 1: early block at least as it stands now and again,
Speaker 1: we have Monday night football tonight Seattle at Philadelphia, Seattle
Speaker 1: favored by six and a half. We think we have
Speaker 1: Baltimore Pittsburgh tomorrow, but we don't know that. What would
Speaker 1: you put the line at that, Jason, that we're gonna
Speaker 1: have that right now? Yeah, fifty fifty. I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: looking at the Steelers having to play Washington on five
Speaker 1: days rest. I mean the Steelers are really Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: It's it could get very interesting from here on out
Speaker 1: because again the no Thursday game, because that was the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Dallas game, which has gotten postponed until Monday of
Speaker 1: next week, which makes Monday a doubleheader with Buffalo San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I think it's time to talk about Week eighteen, and
Speaker 1: it's just this by weekend next week and regroup maybe though,
Speaker 1: I mean, then once you get to week eighteen, what
Speaker 1: are your what are your assured? Says that those get
Speaker 1: played on Week eighteen have no assurances. There are no
Speaker 1: assurances here, chrisye. What about the game tonight? You're getting
Speaker 1: a lot of Seattle money? Is that all you've gotten? Yes?
Speaker 1: All Seattle all the way up to six and a half.
Speaker 1: Now may get to see some Jalen Hurts tonight for
Speaker 1: the Eagles. He was taking some some first team reps.
Speaker 1: All right, what is the first of the afternoon games?
Speaker 1: By the way, before we move on, I saw I
Speaker 1: saw a thing on Twitter that the Ravens were practicing
Speaker 1: this morning and the NFL told them the shutdown the
Speaker 1: facility until five o'clock tonight. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: But not good. All of this falls out of the
Speaker 1: category of not good. Yeah yeah. Next up, Giants at
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Giants at the Sea Seahawks site unseen. They
Speaker 1: played tonight. Giants have won three in a row. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the Giant and says we said they had to Uh.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati had the ball with the chance to All they
Speaker 1: needed was a field goal to beat the Giants. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: the most picked team in Circus Survivor yesterday. Maybe this
Speaker 1: reflects your Survivor pool, but the most picked team was,
Speaker 1: in fact the New York Football Giants thirty five out
Speaker 1: of the one oh four that started yesterday. Remember one
Speaker 1: didn't submit. Thirty five had the Giants and they were nervous,
Speaker 1: but they got it done. Daniel Jones was sixteen thirteen
Speaker 1: no touchdownsne pix. He was not sacked, but he then
Speaker 1: went out with a hamstring injury. He was flushed out
Speaker 1: of the pocket um and it was kind of weird
Speaker 1: how it happened. He grabbed his hamstring. He was in
Speaker 1: the second half. He's getting an m r I today.
Speaker 1: So Colt McCoy went in that game yesterday for the Giants.
Speaker 1: He was six of ten for thirty one his brief
Speaker 1: time in the game. Yesterday, Daniel Jones got in re
Speaker 1: entered the game for one plan and said and then
Speaker 1: grabbed his hamstring right after he threw a past. He's like,
Speaker 1: I can't do this. So depending on what that m
Speaker 1: R I shows, we'll know if it's gonna be Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones or the veteran Colt McCoy Gallman ninety four yesterday
Speaker 1: with a touchdown against the Bungles Ingram six. They were
Speaker 1: plus two in turnovers, they held the ball for thirty
Speaker 1: seven minutes and twenty six seconds, thirty four advantage in
Speaker 1: time of possession. But it's the Giants who again technically
Speaker 1: lead the NFC East right at this moment, having beaten
Speaker 1: Washington both times this year. And it'll be at Seattle. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know it again, depending on what happens tonight with Seattle,
Speaker 1: barring any catastrophic injuries or whatever, I would imagine Seattle
Speaker 1: would be north of a touchdown. I'll say minus seven
Speaker 1: and a half. Well if you're light, but again like
Speaker 1: your number better. I mean Seattle's again I home field
Speaker 1: means left. Um, you know there's six and a half
Speaker 1: over Philly in the I had to playing some pretty
Speaker 1: good football right now. Anyway, the numbers not is what
Speaker 1: I see. I think that's too high now, assuming Jones
Speaker 1: is healthy, because I do like Colt McCoy. I like him.
Speaker 1: I think the very valuable backup. Uh, but Jones is
Speaker 1: coming around, and really the team's coming around. This team
Speaker 1: is playing pretty good football. Uh. You know, I think
Speaker 1: that number is too high. You know, I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: nine just to be conservative, because I see one place
Speaker 1: as ten, but a lot of juice on the dog.
Speaker 1: I see like a couple of seven a halves juiced
Speaker 1: on the favorite. I'm a debate by that right now.
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna open nine, but I might open eat
Speaker 1: and a half see how that thing goes. But I
Speaker 1: think the Giant I think that's high. I'd like the
Speaker 1: Giants in that spot. And remember I'm putting a market
Speaker 1: next to the Giants. I think they played that game
Speaker 1: a lot closer than what the nine would indicate. Skill
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Speaker 1: linking game plus guessing lines for week thirteen. Uh, well
Speaker 1: will I rush about the Giants? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know, just so tough. There's so many we were debating, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the Giants over a touchdown. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that we were debating yesterday. Uh, Felika
Speaker 1: E and I how many truly bad teams there are
Speaker 1: in the NFL? And Felicka and I came on the
Speaker 1: high side. We were both like a fourth of the
Speaker 1: league is just bad. And he was trying to say, well, no,
Speaker 1: but this team is a coach away, this team is
Speaker 1: a quarterback way. I go, yeah, but you can say
Speaker 1: that about lots of teams. But I'm just I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of myself on like, so many of these teams are
Speaker 1: so bad at so this this is why Survivor has
Speaker 1: lasted as long as it has this year, because you
Speaker 1: can just fade the crapola. Now, as I said, there's
Speaker 1: nothing guaranteed moving forward. I'm terrified by this coming week
Speaker 1: because it's a minefield. One of these one of these
Speaker 1: big favorites is not going to get there. Um, so
Speaker 1: you know it is what it is. But are the
Speaker 1: Giants terrible or the Giants actually a burgeoning team. If
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can get it right, they're actually going to
Speaker 1: be good at football. I don't know. From week to week,
Speaker 1: I have a different opinion. I have a different opinion
Speaker 1: on a lot of it. You try to Recency bias
Speaker 1: is real because in the NFL you try to overcome it.
Speaker 1: Just so difficult with the performances of these teams from
Speaker 1: week to week. And we're about to run into a
Speaker 1: couple more. What's next? Next up we have the Rams
Speaker 1: at the card Okay, so this is a perfect game.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were gonna go with this, but
Speaker 1: this is perfect the set up for this because these
Speaker 1: are two teams, Chrissy, the Rams and the Cardinals. Do
Speaker 1: you have any clue what you're getting from them week
Speaker 1: to week? None? For me? None? Literally? A week ago,
Speaker 1: who is the Rams? Beat Tampa right on on the
Speaker 1: primetime game? And the day after I said, are the
Speaker 1: Rams the best team in the NFC? Like I said
Speaker 1: that out loud on this show. Maybe the Rams are
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC. Well, they lose to
Speaker 1: the Niners yesterday twenty Now, there's no shame in that
Speaker 1: the Niners had bodies back, most dirt and Sherman. We're back.
Speaker 1: So it was debo and the Niners got it done,
Speaker 1: beat the Rams three to twenty. But it just looked
Speaker 1: listless from the offensive side of things for the Rams.
Speaker 1: I mean, the defense completely kept him in that game.
Speaker 1: Golf Jared Goff that is nineteen of thirty one for
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, two picks. He was sacked twice. There were
Speaker 1: seven turnovers in that game between the Rams and the Niners,
Speaker 1: four committed by the Rams. Robbie Gould's forty two yard
Speaker 1: or for San Francisco with no time remaining was the
Speaker 1: game winner. Aaron Donald did it all yesterday, sack, forced fumble,
Speaker 1: fourth straight season with ten plus sacks. But the Rams
Speaker 1: lose and the Rams fall to seven and four. And
Speaker 1: then there's Arizona. You know, we talked about the Raiders
Speaker 1: in the Rams not knowing what you get from them
Speaker 1: from week to week. Arizona might top them in that category.
Speaker 1: Like one week, I'm like, Kyler Murray can beat anybody.
Speaker 1: Like they're a team that could get into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and all it takes is for Kyler Murray to go off.
Speaker 1: That team could get to like the NFC Championship. Maybe
Speaker 1: who knows, and then you see them yesterday against the
Speaker 1: Patriots and you're like, I don't know. They could lose
Speaker 1: to anybody. To Murray twenty three thirty four for one
Speaker 1: seventy no touchdowns, one pick, you sack twice five or
Speaker 1: thirty one on the ground, Nick Folk kicking a fifty
Speaker 1: yard or for the Patriots is time expired and they
Speaker 1: rally to beat the Cardinals seventeen Cardinals were pretending nothing.
Speaker 1: I had the Cardinals in this game. This is one
Speaker 1: of these that I loved on guessing lines last week
Speaker 1: and attended anothering. I'm like, oh, I'm so smart, and
Speaker 1: then not so much so. I don't know. So when
Speaker 1: you make this line, and again a home field doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: it's the Rams of the Cardinals. I guess the Rams
Speaker 1: will be favored, but even three seems too much, So
Speaker 1: I'll say two and a half. And I have no
Speaker 1: idea if you're gonna laugh me out of that room
Speaker 1: with that line, because I just have no idea what
Speaker 1: it should be. No, No, it's two and a half
Speaker 1: juice on the favorite, three juice on the dog. I
Speaker 1: like the to and ask better. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's a shade high made it one and a half. Again,
Speaker 1: you're cutting pretty close there, But three I think it's
Speaker 1: a little too hot. Um. You know Arizona. You know,
Speaker 1: I've had my questions about Murray and you know, voiced them,
Speaker 1: and I still have questions to buy him long term,
Speaker 1: although short term I think he's pretty good coach. No,
Speaker 1: I don't like Kingsbury. I don't like it, um And
Speaker 1: I think that could be one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: you're looking at an inconsistent partinal team. You know, I
Speaker 1: like a lot of things about the Rams, but there's
Speaker 1: a case where the quarterback is inconsistent. Um. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that's my assessment of those two teams overall. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open two and a half. I might have some
Speaker 1: guys lay it to me, but I'm sure as soon
Speaker 1: as I go to three, they're gonna gobble that up
Speaker 1: to So there we go. And every time Jared Goff
Speaker 1: has a game like that, I always get back to
Speaker 1: my whole thing about how the economics of the NFL
Speaker 1: is so messed up for teams. Right, So, Jared Goffe
Speaker 1: signed a one hundred ten million guarantee. It was a
Speaker 1: four year, one four million dollar deal. One million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: This is in September of so, before last season. And
Speaker 1: if you're the Rams, you have to make this decision again.
Speaker 1: You do not win a Super Bowl unless you have
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback or a guy over performing
Speaker 1: on a rookie deal like Russell Wilson did. And by
Speaker 1: the way, it's a travesty that the Seahawks are only
Speaker 1: able to win one Super Bowl with that legion of
Speaker 1: Boom and Russell Wilson. But we all know what happened
Speaker 1: there with the pick against the Patriots. But anyway, getting
Speaker 1: back to the point, so the Rams had to make
Speaker 1: this assessment about Jared Golf and they decided, you know what,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give him this fat contract. The Cowboys with
Speaker 1: Dak pre injury and they're not gonna, I hope they're
Speaker 1: not gonna let the injury affect them, but who knows. Uh,
Speaker 1: they have to make a decision to give Dak the
Speaker 1: long term deal. They were assessing that is he the
Speaker 1: guy that's going to get us to the Promised Land.
Speaker 1: Remember the Washington football team, perhaps most famously had to
Speaker 1: do this with Kirk Cousins and they kept signed named
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins to one year deals, and Kirk Cousins was like, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm betting on myself. Just keep signing me to one
Speaker 1: one year deals. I'm gonna make fat money. Then the
Speaker 1: Vikings through the long term contract on him. It was
Speaker 1: three years, eighty four million initially. But I guess what
Speaker 1: I'm getting at is it's such a weird place in
Speaker 1: these guys careers, Golf Cousins dak to have to make
Speaker 1: this massive financial commitment. You are basically making a decision
Speaker 1: on your franchise's entire future because it's the most important
Speaker 1: position on the field, and it is a wing and
Speaker 1: a prayer because you really have no idea if Jared
Speaker 1: Golf is your answer to get you to the promised land.
Speaker 1: And every time we think he's good, he has a
Speaker 1: game like this and we're like, yeah, no, sorry, just odd.
Speaker 1: That the that the NFL economics, that's how the salary capboard,
Speaker 1: and that's how the rules work. That it's at this
Speaker 1: point in their career when you really have no idea
Speaker 1: yet and you've got to make that big decision. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I don't know where I'm
Speaker 1: going with that other than God, I mean, like think
Speaker 1: how fortunate you are if you're a fan of the
Speaker 1: teams that has a big ben talking to you, Chrissy. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, if you have the you know, the players
Speaker 1: that that can get you there, like a Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a that that's just made the franchise,
Speaker 1: right with that one pick and one one pick in
Speaker 1: the draft that is, by the way, we'll get to him,
Speaker 1: but good lord, is he Greig? Anyway? That's it. I
Speaker 1: didn't have much to say other than what interesting economics
Speaker 1: for a second before before we get off that. It's
Speaker 1: not just you get rid of him, you get rid
Speaker 1: of golf. Let's say, well, you got to replace him.
Speaker 1: You got to replace him with You're you're in the
Speaker 1: middle of the draft, you know, so you aren't getting
Speaker 1: Drevor Lawrence, you aren't getting Justin Fields. You know again,
Speaker 1: you're gonna ask to take the gamble. I can't remember
Speaker 1: the guy's name, the kid from North Dakota State. And
Speaker 1: you know you're played one game kid this year? You know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you played one game. He looks good. The
Speaker 1: scout's love, you know, is it going to be you know,
Speaker 1: pre injury Carson once it was pretty good or is
Speaker 1: he going to be uh, you know, Mr Busy, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean so, I don't know. I mean that's a
Speaker 1: really tough question. But just keep that in mind. I
Speaker 1: would makes you get rid of golss. Okay, fine, replace
Speaker 1: them with who Yeah, no, you're you're ask yourself that, right,
Speaker 1: And that's what That's what with Washington, you know they
Speaker 1: could never figure out Okay, well we have Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: but literally look at them. Well, now with the alternative,
Speaker 1: what do they have? The quarterback of the future is
Speaker 1: not on that team. It's not. And so as as
Speaker 1: exciting as you can as exciting as you can be
Speaker 1: about the performance on Thursday as the Cowboys, you're still like, well,
Speaker 1: where is this going? And the Rams have no draft
Speaker 1: picks either. They traded on the draft picks for Jalen Ramsey, right,
Speaker 1: and so they've really really hamstrung themselves for the next
Speaker 1: couple of years. Unfortunately, right now is the NFC playoff
Speaker 1: picture of the playoffs were to start right now, you
Speaker 1: get one team from the East right now, it's the Giants.
Speaker 1: Could change tonight if the Eagles win, Packers, Saints Seahawks
Speaker 1: as division winners, Seahawks againstill haven't played. But let's just
Speaker 1: go with what's going on right now. Your wild card
Speaker 1: teams as of this moment would be the Rams, the Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. Cardinals are at six and five, and
Speaker 1: then you have three teams right behind them, the Vikings,
Speaker 1: the Bears, and the Niners all at five and six.
Speaker 1: You imagine if the Niners got there, yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: all four teams in the NFC West still alive. Well,
Speaker 1: but then they would ostensibly knock out the Cardinals. So
Speaker 1: you know what. Anyway, interesting to look at the Bears
Speaker 1: at five and six, still on the picture. All right,
Speaker 1: what's what's next? I'm sorry, what's next? At the package? Alright?
Speaker 1: So Eagles we haven't seen again. They're six and happen
Speaker 1: when we Dogs tonight against the Seahawks, and we might
Speaker 1: see some Jalen Hurts tonight Carson Wentz just to give
Speaker 1: you an idea of why Doug Peterson has finally the
Speaker 1: had to give Jalen Hurt some reps with the first team.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz first among all players and interceptions fourteen fumbles,
Speaker 1: ten sacks, forty ranks thirty second because I guess they
Speaker 1: add some other quarterbacks beyond the the starting thirty two
Speaker 1: that have also had starts uh thirty second and completion
Speaker 1: percentage fifty eight point four, thirty feet in yards per
Speaker 1: attempt six point two, and as the worst off target percentage.
Speaker 1: That's not what you want to be worst in off
Speaker 1: target percentage, Chrissy Tree, among all qualifiers that according to
Speaker 1: the ESPN Stats and Information. Thank you ESPN Stats and
Speaker 1: Information for that list. Green Bay beats the Bears last night. Now,
Speaker 1: if you missed this game last night, you'll you'll wake
Speaker 1: up and you'll say, oh, green Bay one to twenty five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but fifteen of those points where the Bears in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter fifteen unanswered. That game was over by halftime.
Speaker 1: Another one of these Sunday nights, Chrissy, where it's like,
Speaker 1: is there anything else so on? Yeah? Yeah. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the the ABC College Football or the ESPN
Speaker 1: slash ABC College Football Game of the Week on Saturday.
Speaker 1: They've had such bad luck with their primetime games too.
Speaker 1: Like Fowler and herb Street and Felika, they go to
Speaker 1: they go to these games every week. Uh, and they're
Speaker 1: like more often than not this year, like, oh this
Speaker 1: is over. But but Rogers last night against the Bears,
Speaker 1: another just masterpiece to eleven but four touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: wasn't sacked, just as complete command of what's happening on
Speaker 1: the field. Aaron Jones seventeen of nine, seventeen, four and
Speaker 1: rather on the ground, six for eleven on third down,
Speaker 1: three for three on fourth. The Packers were they had
Speaker 1: had the ball for thirty seven minutes and forty three
Speaker 1: seconds to the Bears seventeen. They were plus three in turnovers,
Speaker 1: and again Mitch r. Biskie still not that good at football.
Speaker 1: I'll say Green Bay against sight unseen here with the Eagles, Ah,
Speaker 1: this is probably more than a touch down. I think
Speaker 1: mine is a I'll just split seven and ten like
Speaker 1: I did with the earlier game, minus eight and a half. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're right there. I don't even see a couple of
Speaker 1: numbers seven with pretty solid juice on the favorite eight
Speaker 1: and then nine. A lot of guys don't have this up.
Speaker 1: And I think probably the question has to be what's
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt's gonna do? What are they gonna do at quarterback?
Speaker 1: You know? And I think that's one of those deals
Speaker 1: where you have to trust the coach to make what
Speaker 1: he believes is the right decision no matter what it is,
Speaker 1: whether it hurts or or Carson wins. Um. Now my
Speaker 1: numbers came to nine. I tell you what, I really
Speaker 1: liked a lot the Packers just says, I only ran
Speaker 1: the football because wasn't the There's those have a pretty
Speaker 1: good defense, you know, I love nothing else and there's
Speaker 1: still in the playoff pants, so I guess that's true.
Speaker 1: But the Packers really ran the ball. Well, Um, I
Speaker 1: think I think we gonna go with a nine. See
Speaker 1: what they want to do with him, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: And I think I think when the Packers have things
Speaker 1: going their way, they can be really really good. Now
Speaker 1: that's a big gift in the NFL, but I think
Speaker 1: the big gift would be a yes. And they're playing
Speaker 1: the team like the Eagles, So I'm hoping nine. See
Speaker 1: where they want to go with that. And the Eagles,
Speaker 1: by the way, Trey Lance was the kid from North
Speaker 1: Dakota State you were talking about, uh that we didn't
Speaker 1: name earlier. Uh. Thank you Chris Fleako for texting that
Speaker 1: the the Eagles are the proverbial team of And I
Speaker 1: said this to Matt Brown on Primetime Action the other night.
Speaker 1: And I'm not. I'm not picking on that at all,
Speaker 1: because I was right with him when they played the Browns.
Speaker 1: The Eagles like on paper, you're like, oh, they're getting
Speaker 1: these guys back, you know, getting you know, they're they're
Speaker 1: as full throttled as they as they have been in
Speaker 1: recent memory. So I'm taking the Eagles. And I said
Speaker 1: to him, I go, okay, but is this the game
Speaker 1: where if the Eagles do not cover and do not win,
Speaker 1: where we vow we're never picking this team again under
Speaker 1: any circumstances, because they're the team that when you bet
Speaker 1: on him, one drive into the game is all it
Speaker 1: takes for you to go, I cannot leave. I'm betting
Speaker 1: on this team again. How did I get hoodwinked into this?
Speaker 1: And so tonight that applies to night's game, by the way,
Speaker 1: where they're six and a half point dogs. So this is,
Speaker 1: at least in recent memory, a different position to be
Speaker 1: in because they're considerable dogs and they've been favorites in
Speaker 1: a lot of the games recently. How will they perform tonight?
Speaker 1: And then in this game that we're just discussing, the
Speaker 1: Eagles huge even bigger dogs one would think at Green Bay,
Speaker 1: Cold weather. You know, I'm just waiting for the game.
Speaker 1: They're never when they're blown out of the water, and
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's the game. But if they win tonight,
Speaker 1: they're in the lead of the division. So you know,
Speaker 1: still make the pups again. If you win the NFC East, Chrissie,
Speaker 1: you pick no better than nineteen and if you lose,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a top ten pick. Do you really
Speaker 1: want to win this division? Players? I mean, they don't want.
Speaker 1: They don't want a good d choice that's probably got
Speaker 1: to take one of their jobs, so they're not gonna
Speaker 1: stankers might never referring to the players, never referring to
Speaker 1: the players, But I'm just saying, do you really if
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the team, do you And if
Speaker 1: you're and if you're if you're in the front office,
Speaker 1: and I'm giving you truth, serum, do you really want
Speaker 1: to win this division? Maybe you do. As I was
Speaker 1: watching Washington the other day, I was like, let's win
Speaker 1: this division. Boys, you know, I got super excited about
Speaker 1: the team. And then I'm like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: win the division. All right, We'll come back, We'll do
Speaker 1: more because we have I believe four more games or
Speaker 1: three more, at least four more games to get to.
Speaker 1: Maybe three, they'll they'll let me know. Guessing lines for
Speaker 1: week thirteen so far Indianapolis. I'm not sure I like
Speaker 1: anything else really, off the top of my head, Indianapolis
Speaker 1: seems like the one thus far. If you're giving me
Speaker 1: two and a half, I'll grab that we got more
Speaker 1: game tough, I'll grab that we got more games to
Speaker 1: get too. Coming back with Chris Andrews right here on
Speaker 1: guessing lines Week thirteen on a numbers game at Visa
Speaker 1: v Sports betting that work. What do we have next
Speaker 1: on week thir team, I think we're still in the date. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: we have multiple prime time games, so these are prime time.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I guess that one has no lines whatsoever.
Speaker 1: We get discussed and of course there's no right, Okay. Um,
Speaker 1: So Sunday Night, Broncos at the Chiefs for the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Are we not flexing games at this point yet? Broncos
Speaker 1: at Chiefs Chiefs? Well, Kendall hint Hint yesterday, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's uh pour out a forty for Kendall hintons pro
Speaker 1: football career. It's no, it's not his fault. He was
Speaker 1: a quarterback at Wig, then he became a wide receiver
Speaker 1: and then you know, the day before, the day before,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you're playing quarterback in the NFL in
Speaker 1: an NFL game. By the way, Keyshawn Johnson was on
Speaker 1: ESPN Radio this morning. He apparently was the emergency quarterback
Speaker 1: back in the day for the Jets, and he was saying,
Speaker 1: it's just it's really not that hard. It's like ten
Speaker 1: ten plays. They're the most simple plays possible. It should
Speaker 1: have been better than this was yesterday. In the end, though,
Speaker 1: Kendall Hinton why, he didn't get a week to practice,
Speaker 1: so I think it's kind of unfair. Kendall Hinton was
Speaker 1: one of nine for thirteen yards. Uh. And I remember
Speaker 1: the one that he that he got for a first down.
Speaker 1: I was one of them. First down. He was smiling,
Speaker 1: was like the biggest accomplishment ever. One of them were
Speaker 1: thirteen yards, no touchdowns, two picks. He was sacked once.
Speaker 1: Six total first downs for the Broncos yesterday. Six. There
Speaker 1: were one of ten on third down. They had one
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve total yards. Now, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: Washington had a game earlier this year where they had
Speaker 1: a hundred and eight total yards, So congratulations, Kendall h Hinton.
Speaker 1: You beat that. They had twelve passing yards when you
Speaker 1: factor in the sacks, the fewest by any team since
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, the first team with more interceptions to than
Speaker 1: completions one since the Chargers. Yeap, Sorry I could go
Speaker 1: on minus two in turnovers. Broncos are now last in
Speaker 1: the NFL and turnovers and turnover margin minus fifteen. But
Speaker 1: they'll get their quarterbacks back for this game. They managed
Speaker 1: thirty seven yards in a single first down before heading
Speaker 1: into halftime down seventeen and nothing after the Saints scored
Speaker 1: twice off turnovers in the final to twenty two of
Speaker 1: the second quarter. Hinton did not complete his first pass
Speaker 1: until the third quarter, and that was his only pass completed.
Speaker 1: Broncos didn't help him much. Five of his seven passes
Speaker 1: were thrown fifteen plus yards down field. They didn't call
Speaker 1: a single screen pass for him, or at least they'd
Speaker 1: had none completed. He's also pressured on five of his
Speaker 1: seven attempts, so it's like they didn't help him out either. Anyway.
Speaker 1: That was the frue Bengo square. Saints beat him three
Speaker 1: and there's Kansas City. Kansas City. I had Kansas City
Speaker 1: yesterday and I was like, Oh, I'm winning this game
Speaker 1: until it was a push. Kansas City sixth rade season
Speaker 1: with ten plus wins. Tyreek Hill in the first quarter
Speaker 1: seven catches for two hundred three yards. I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything like that. Over fifty Fantasy points in the first
Speaker 1: total in the game because he finished thirteen for two
Speaker 1: sixty nine and three touchdowns of seventy forty four and
Speaker 1: twenty yards. By the way, Todd Bowles and the Bucks
Speaker 1: said we're gonna single cover Tyreek What was that? Mahomes
Speaker 1: thirty seven and forty nine for four sixty two, three
Speaker 1: touchdowns note picks. He was sacked twice. Mahomes after the
Speaker 1: game was like, we don't usually see that with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: Kansas City ran forty forty two plays the Tampa Bays
Speaker 1: twenty two in the first two quarters, out gaining the
Speaker 1: Bucks three seventy seven to one thirty one with Mahomes
Speaker 1: throwing for three fifty nine yards and Brady won seventeen.
Speaker 1: That's in the first half. But Tampa Bay came all
Speaker 1: the way back to get the push. Never really thought
Speaker 1: they had a chance to win it. Though Kansas City
Speaker 1: wins at twenty seven to twenty four. Some people lost
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. If you got it at three and
Speaker 1: a half. Anyway, it's the Broncos. I don't care if
Speaker 1: they have their quarterbacks back, which they will. I will
Speaker 1: say even more than two Touchdownslet'll see, fourteen and a
Speaker 1: half they were the Chiefs. Wow, you're high. Well, I
Speaker 1: can't say you're wrong money by powering from the thirteen.
Speaker 1: But I always say it's just a place to start. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open thirteen and a half. But boy, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, I'd would be hard pressed to it
Speaker 1: that the Broncos here the Chiefs. You know you're talking
Speaker 1: about you know, the single cover Tyree Hill. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I mean they should have doubled him, of course. But
Speaker 1: this team has so many weapons. Um, they've just done
Speaker 1: a fantastic job, you know, accumulating talent, coaching everything. There's
Speaker 1: a really really well run franchise right now. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know they do they super Bowl winner. They deserved
Speaker 1: to be and they deserved to be the best team
Speaker 1: in the league so far this year. Of course, you've
Speaker 1: got to go on and win the playoffs, but that
Speaker 1: may happen, they may not. There's a hell of a team,
Speaker 1: hell of a program. They're doing a great job and
Speaker 1: a half. That's the high watered more. Okay, I'm a
Speaker 1: little high. How about Patrick Mahomes like backpedaling ten fifteen
Speaker 1: yards and still reading defenses and making sheet code. Coming back,
Speaker 1: We'll do the last couple of games with Chrissy for
Speaker 1: Week thirteen, right here in the Numbers game at Visa,
Speaker 1: these sports betting network messing lines with Chris Andrews, right
Speaker 1: here on the Numbers game at Visa, these sports betting Network. Chrissy,
Speaker 1: I know that the uh that the double header, the
Speaker 1: Monay night double header is potentially the Dallas Baltimore game
Speaker 1: and Buffalo and San Francisco, and so upon thinking about
Speaker 1: that during the break, I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: why haven't we talked about Buffalo. We must have skipped
Speaker 1: the game, right? Did we skip the Chargers game next week? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: what game is that Chargers playing? Yeah? We did, we
Speaker 1: trust me, I know we did, because we didn't talk
Speaker 1: about any We didn't get there. You're yeah, I wrote
Speaker 1: in my Yeah we didn't talk about them yet, You're right,
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, So who are they playing?
Speaker 1: You were discussing Destiny's Child while I wrote in the number, sorry,
Speaker 1: I took you. I took you off the setting. You
Speaker 1: know what we're just you know what we're talking about
Speaker 1: during this break is because I was talking about the
Speaker 1: whole you can't win a super Bowl unless you have
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback or or a rookie, a
Speaker 1: guy on a rookie deal over performing. And so we're
Speaker 1: talking about the Lions having fired coach and GM obviously
Speaker 1: is Matthews Stafford? Like? Is he? Is he a super
Speaker 1: Bowl quarter Like? How do we know he's good enough?
Speaker 1: I don't know about Matthew. I think he is myself,
Speaker 1: I really do. I think he is. So if she
Speaker 1: went to the right team, yeah, I think he could
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. Okay, so we're the Chargers playing. Let's
Speaker 1: get back to let's double back to the Chargers, go
Speaker 1: back to the Chargers and Patriots where at at the
Speaker 1: Chargers like it matters? Uh? Patriots win as we talked about,
Speaker 1: beat the Cardinals, Cam Cameron Newton as Todd wish Ness.
Speaker 1: Cam was nine of eighteen for eighty four no touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Two picks, sack three times. He did carry the ball
Speaker 1: nine times for forty six yards. The Patriots only had
Speaker 1: a hundred seventy nine total yards, only sixty nine passing
Speaker 1: yards when you factor in the sacks, and they won
Speaker 1: Nick Folk fifty yard or to win it with no
Speaker 1: time remaining, beat the Cardinals. Patriots are five and six.
Speaker 1: If they get to eight and eight, Bill Belichick deserves
Speaker 1: some coach of the ear thoughts thoughts, Yeah for sure, yeah, probably, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And then there's the Chargers. Chargers lose to the Bills.
Speaker 1: I knew we felt light on this show. I knew
Speaker 1: that felt like we were a little too far into it,
Speaker 1: all right, So the Bills of the Year candidate not
Speaker 1: like if I haven't had a chance. That's cert de
Speaker 1: sides Anthony Land. It definitely is not going to get
Speaker 1: say why do I feel empty on this show? What
Speaker 1: have I failed to talk about? Bills beat the Chargers
Speaker 1: twenty seven to seventeen. It is their first loss, the
Speaker 1: Chargers first loss this season by ten plus points, so
Speaker 1: let's at least give them that. They still covered the
Speaker 1: tease though they're oh in six this season versus teams
Speaker 1: currently over five d though Justin Herbert once again filling
Speaker 1: up a statue thirty three six, one touchdown, one pick.
Speaker 1: He was sacked three times. By the way, he's over
Speaker 1: three thousand yards, which means he joins Patrick Mahomes the
Speaker 1: only players the top three thousand yards passing in their
Speaker 1: first ten career starts. How about that. There's your rookie
Speaker 1: of the year. Austin Ekeler came back fourteen forty four
Speaker 1: in the ground, eleven brady five through the air, eleven catches,
Speaker 1: eighty five yards returned after missing six games with a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. UH charges were plus two in turnovers still lost.
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa had a career best three sacks, six tackles
Speaker 1: for a loss, also recovered a fumble still lost, up
Speaker 1: his career total in sacks to forty seven and a half.
Speaker 1: All right, Anthony Lynn, so begins the Anthony portion of
Speaker 1: this program. Christie Anthony Lynn at the fifty yard line,
Speaker 1: fourth and two, play clock and game clock almost equal.
Speaker 1: This is right before the half. Now I'm talking, and
Speaker 1: instead of living the time run to maybe do a
Speaker 1: final play, he calls the time out with twenty seconds left,
Speaker 1: and then punts and You're like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? And you're like, well, I can't
Speaker 1: get worse than that today? Oh did it ever? End
Speaker 1: of game? One minute left in the game. Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: throws a fifty five yard to Tyron Johnson, just heaved
Speaker 1: it up in the air. Tyron Johnson came down with
Speaker 1: it two yard line um, So seconds left downtown, no timeouts.
Speaker 1: They run the ball. They run the ball. Like you're
Speaker 1: watching this, You're like, what what are you doing? It's
Speaker 1: like you can count on it, you can just he
Speaker 1: two scores. You either you either kicked the field goal
Speaker 1: right there and then or he just plays into the
Speaker 1: end zone. Period. They run the ball, and so there's
Speaker 1: six seconds left in the game before Herbert throws an
Speaker 1: incompletion which was just ridiculous, right into the ground, and
Speaker 1: the game ends with Herbert being stopped on a keeper
Speaker 1: up the middle. And so I listen, we've talked about
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn a thousand times. Okay, it's an exaggeration, but
Speaker 1: we have over the years a hundred times at least.
Speaker 1: You can't keep doing stuff like this. You can't. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. You're allowed to make mistakes, but you have
Speaker 1: to learn something at some point, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it's like this blank slate happens every week where they
Speaker 1: learn nothing. And this is Bill Belichick and the Patriots
Speaker 1: at Anthony Lynn and the Chargers. I have a feeling
Speaker 1: this is the play of the week because if I'm
Speaker 1: guessing the line, which I'm told is the point of
Speaker 1: this show, uh, I would make it a pick them
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't know who to favor here. And if
Speaker 1: that's the case, this is this, by the irrefutable laws
Speaker 1: of football bestowed upon us, you have to bet the Patriots.
Speaker 1: What's the line, Chrissie, Well, it's pick or the Chargers one.
Speaker 1: I even see a one and a half the juice
Speaker 1: on the dog. I made the Patriots too. And to
Speaker 1: your point, you have one team that's gonna figure out
Speaker 1: a way to win and another team is going to
Speaker 1: figure out a way to lose, exactly picking. I'm sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, Richie koke Tite, remember one time ah
Speaker 1: refused the penalty and then punted it. This was closed
Speaker 1: when Anthony called the time out and then punted it.
Speaker 1: You know that was I'm not sure which one's worse.
Speaker 1: They're really close. I thought the run at the end
Speaker 1: was just that's that was the cop so ridiculous that
Speaker 1: I mean, just the topper. So listen, this is again
Speaker 1: by the irrefutable laws of football bestowed upon us by
Speaker 1: Moses himself or whoever? Did you have to beat the
Speaker 1: Patriots here right like this is I say this a
Speaker 1: lot on the show. Some bets you just have to
Speaker 1: be willing to lose. This would be that bet. If
Speaker 1: you can, If Anthony Litt and the Chargers can beat
Speaker 1: me on this, which is essentially a pickum, is what
Speaker 1: you're saying, God bless you. But I'm taking Belichick great teaser,
Speaker 1: teaser Schmiez or I'm just taking it straight. Still a
Speaker 1: great teaser. My mother used to say that, Chrissie teaser Schmizer.
Speaker 1: All right, what's that? What's what's what's name? We got
Speaker 1: the Bills? Who was doing? And yeah, I mean they
Speaker 1: were going to beat the Charges regardless, right, might not
Speaker 1: have covered the Bills with the Miners. So Bills have
Speaker 1: a one game lead on the Dolphins in the a
Speaker 1: f C East. There four and oh this season against
Speaker 1: teams currently under five hundred, they're a bully. Josh Allen
Speaker 1: eight seven, one touchdown. One, picky, sacked twice, bills were
Speaker 1: minus to in turn over. Still be the charges. As
Speaker 1: we mentioned, nine penalties for eighty five yards didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Tried to blow an eighteen point third quarter lead, turned
Speaker 1: the ball over on three consecutive posessions, didn't matter in
Speaker 1: that stretch. They limited Los Angeles to Michael Badgeley's twenty
Speaker 1: seven yard field goal. Three turnovers. That's all the Chargers got.
Speaker 1: And then there's the Niners, who we talked about beat
Speaker 1: the Rams. Nick Mullins was thirty five or two fifty three,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, one pick, He was sacked twice, debot eleven
Speaker 1: for one thirty four. What a good game he had.
Speaker 1: But the Niners got Deebo back. They got Raheem Mostered back.
Speaker 1: He scored the Niners opening touchdown. After four games away
Speaker 1: with the sprained ankle, Richard Sherman came back. He had
Speaker 1: a pick lad the Niners with seven tackles in his
Speaker 1: first game back since Week one. The Niners have no
Speaker 1: idea where they will be playing this game though, right
Speaker 1: Santa Clara County saying you can't do that, So I
Speaker 1: don't know where they go here. Um some said Texas
Speaker 1: maybe there's possibility. You know, we don't know yet, but
Speaker 1: I'll say Buffalo not quite a three point favorite. I'll
Speaker 1: say two and a half. Yeah, you're right on, it's
Speaker 1: two and a half. You know my numbers came higher. Um,
Speaker 1: I really think I have to look at this Niner team.
Speaker 1: I have to make some adjustments because of the players
Speaker 1: who are coming back. So I'm not going to dispute
Speaker 1: the two and a half. A matter of fact, there's
Speaker 1: threes around last night they're pretty much gone. Um, So
Speaker 1: I do like the two and a half. I like it.
Speaker 1: It's me that has to make an adjustment to my
Speaker 1: power raising because it's the night are getting all these
Speaker 1: folks back. I definitely have to raise them. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Shanahan is doing a hell of a job.
Speaker 1: This guy's a great coach, so he is. He's a
Speaker 1: terrific coach. Alright. So, and we don't know Baltimore in Dallas,
Speaker 1: Dallas at Baltimore, we don't. We don't have any line
Speaker 1: for that. I don't know. I mean, there's so many
Speaker 1: question marks with Baltimore. I don't know how to possibly
Speaker 1: put up a number and means, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: certainly not gonna, you know, tear down that wall and
Speaker 1: put one up. You're not gonna tear down that wall.
Speaker 1: Mr gro with Jeff uh. Yeah, and Baltimore again, as
Speaker 1: we say, we don't know, is this game gonna get
Speaker 1: played tomorrow night against Pittsburgh. It's still it's still there now,
Speaker 1: but there's a long time, long time between now and
Speaker 1: game time tomorrow between Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh a ten
Speaker 1: point favorite in that game scheduled for tomorrow. Okay, so Christie,
Speaker 1: as we do the inventory here, here's what I like.
Speaker 1: I like Indian apples. If you're telling me that there
Speaker 1: are only two and a half point favorites on the
Speaker 1: road at Houston, as long as it's two and a half,
Speaker 1: I'll take that two and a half extra juice, I'll
Speaker 1: take that. Uh. If the Chiefs are less than fourteen,
Speaker 1: which you're saying you might put them up, I will
Speaker 1: take the Chiefs at home against Denver. Denver will have
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks back, and the other one is and this
Speaker 1: is the biggest one of them all, I'm taking New
Speaker 1: England against the Chargers. Period. End of story. You. I
Speaker 1: like the Colts again, laying the two and a half
Speaker 1: against the Texas. I like the Giants getting points over
Speaker 1: you know, over seven and a half again the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: And I like New England too, Like a team that
Speaker 1: figures out out to win and get the team that
Speaker 1: figures out how to lose. By the irrefutable laws of football,
Speaker 1: that pick must happen. Christy, thank you as always. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man, my pleasure, Gil, my pleasure, the great
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