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Speaker 1: It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It is me, Joey pa,

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Speaker 1: Joe Pisa, Pia joining me today as always a Scott Bogman,

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Speaker 1: and of course it's you, and today we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: looking ahead already to twenty twenty two NFL.

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Speaker 2: We'll do a quick little recap of the Super.

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Speaker 1: Bowl because Bogman and I really haven't touched too much

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Speaker 1: base with that since it's gone on, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: look at the early odds on AFC NFC champions and

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Speaker 1: also the Super Bowl, plus just a tad bit of

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Speaker 1: draft stuff as well, because if there's NFL draft to

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Speaker 1: our own Scott Bogman. But I want to remind everybody

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Speaker 2: And Scott Bogman.

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Speaker 1: I know, as a Steelers fan, you probably had a

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Speaker 1: nice amount of joy watching the Bengals fall short.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the Rams won.

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Speaker 1: I was off by a point on my score, I said,

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Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty one, little extra point. That's what

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Speaker 1: I was really missing at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: which had gone my way, I would have been spot on.

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Speaker 1: But it feels exactly like the show that we did

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Speaker 1: a last week right where we said, hey, it's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna the Bengals covering, it's probably me the Rams winning,

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Speaker 1: and wouldn't you know it, that's.

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Speaker 2: What it was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look as long as the Rams win, right, that's

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Speaker 3: what I was all about. And that's exactly what happened,

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Speaker 3: you know. But don't worry Bengals fans. Damn Marino got back.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's aka, don't worry. Jim Kelly was all right, well,

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Speaker 3: you guys are still I mean six super Bowl short

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Speaker 3: of the Patriots, is that correct?

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Speaker 4: Show is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, six super Bowl and in six super Bowl short

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Speaker 3: of my team also, so okay, yeah, just making sure

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Speaker 3: so zero you got your wins, first wins in thirty years.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, no, this is like my first braggy

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Speaker 3: thing I've done about that.

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Speaker 4: But I look, the Bengals aren't great.

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Speaker 1: You could tell all of that, like unhappiness just came

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Speaker 1: out at one time from the deer season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that was that was a lot there to

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Speaker 2: take in.

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Speaker 3: Look, I've there's some great Bengals fans, some you know,

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Speaker 3: but you know, I've been hearing it for the last month,

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Speaker 3: so it was nice to see them lose. So but

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Speaker 3: Aaron Donald, Sean McVay, I don't know what does all

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Speaker 3: this retirement talk about, both those guys like Donald more

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Speaker 3: than McVeigh, like McVeagh, Bro, you're thirty six, what are

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Speaker 3: you gonna go do?

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Speaker 4: Like, what is he gonna do for the next Oh?

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Speaker 2: I know, ye, Well television it's a lot easier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is way easier. But I mean that's not

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Speaker 3: gonna fuel that fire. I mean, I think you gotta

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Speaker 3: stay till you're at least forty five or something.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a stressful job.

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Speaker 3: I get that it can take years off you, but

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Speaker 3: you're gonna retire at thirty six or whatever. I know,

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Speaker 3: dude's younger than both of us, So that's just a

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Speaker 4: Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 1: I know, dude, if I could retire at thirty six,

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Speaker 1: I might do it. I don't know if he's bad.

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Speaker 3: That, but I mean, you're gonna get bored even if

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Speaker 3: you're on TV. That's why urban Meyer left from urban Meyer.

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Speaker 3: And look, he's trash now. And everyone thinks he's not

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Speaker 3: a great person either, because you know, of what he

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Speaker 3: presented obvious reasons to the to the world the last year, right,

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Speaker 3: But he was killing it at Fox. Everybody liked, you know,

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Speaker 3: to go back. So I just can't imagine that McVeigh

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Speaker 4: I'm done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, go go and win a bunch of super Bowls,

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Speaker 2: I just you say, men.

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Speaker 1: Meyer prepared the way he did, Like in other words,

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Speaker 1: you would go around and kick the boom guy and

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Speaker 1: the kim hit up the Chili's across the street the

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Speaker 1: night before, you know, for one, Margarita's baby, who the presidente?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Any other takeaways from the Super Bowl? I mean it

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Speaker 1: kind of did play out exactly as I said.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it. At the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: It's the offensive line of the Bengals it was gonna

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Speaker 1: guess what those are the two things that those.

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Speaker 3: Were the two things. They were just too obvious. Man,

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Speaker 3: It's just too obvious for the Bengals. And there's a

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Speaker 3: You know that both those quarterbacks got hurt in that game,

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Speaker 3: not bad enough to leave the game. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: so there are obvious things that need to be fixed

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Speaker 3: on both sides. But yeah, I mean, the Bengals are

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Speaker 3: errors even but I gotta get Jessea Bates back in

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Speaker 3: got to keep the core pieces. That's what the Bengals

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Speaker 3: and get back. But it's gonna be gonna be a

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Speaker 3: tough row. Cleveland's gonna be better, The Ravens are going

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Speaker 3: someone new at quarterback may not be better than Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 3: but Roethlisberger was in the lower third of the year.

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Speaker 3: To be nice to Roethlisberger in terms of quarterbacks last season.

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Speaker 3: So you know, the road just gets harder. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's every single year. You know that better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, All right, let's let's put the twenty

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Speaker 1: and already, of course, because we're degenerates and we love this,

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Speaker 1: we can't get enough of it. The odds are up already,

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Speaker 1: and of course, if you want to see the consensus odds,

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Speaker 1: you can always go to bettingpros dot com and check

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Speaker 1: that out. But right now, if you're looking around most

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Speaker 1: of the betting houses right now. We'll just start with

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Speaker 1: the AFC conference right now, the Bills are at plus

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Speaker 1: three point fifty over on the fan duel side, Kansas

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Speaker 1: City is at three eighty. They are the prohibitive favorites.

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Speaker 1: Most books have them as basically this three and a

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Speaker 1: So I'll ask you this, Bogs, of these two favorites

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Speaker 1: this be Josh Allen's year finally or will Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: And it's funny both these guys might be replacing their

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Speaker 3: the enemy might go ahead and leave that Kansas City situation.

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Speaker 3: I think you have to take the experience here plus

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Speaker 3: three fifty on Kansas City. Kansas City has been the

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Speaker 1: I'll take the other side. Actually, I'm gonna go on

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Speaker 1: I think if Buffalo can get this conference championship game,

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the rest of the AFC and

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Speaker 1: some of the turnover we're gonna talk about in a

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Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are gonna be probably around there

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the Ravens are back in this.

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Speaker 1: But to me, the Buffalo Bills to that team, if

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in early. They're the favorites for reason.

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Speaker 1: The favorites don't always get there, as we know, but

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Speaker 1: any change there. You know what they always say, Bogman,

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Speaker 1: the the enemy of my b enemy is my friend.

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Speaker 2: That's an old saying, goes way back.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Dad jokes as Joe already all.

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Speaker 2: Right, the Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Joke of the new season, fresh start.

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Speaker 1: Same old dad jokes. Cincinnati Bengals ten to one here,

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Speaker 1: same for the Baltimore Ravens, and then the Chargers at

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Speaker 1: thirteen to one. Surprisingly, the Colts early going are thirteen

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Speaker 1: When you have that transcendent quarterback, anything's possible. At thirteen

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Speaker 1: Labar Jackson and him potentially having one more gear in him,

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Speaker 1: and this being not a make or break season, but

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Speaker 1: potentially a very important one where it's time for him

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Speaker 1: as a passer at the NFL level to kind of

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Speaker 1: step it up. If so, what do you think of

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Speaker 1: the ten to one on the Ravens and the thirteen

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Speaker 3: I'm a little upset that the Ravens are ten to

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Speaker 3: one because I thought with the bad finish and all

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Speaker 3: that stuff, they were going to be much longer odds.

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Speaker 3: And you know, bookmakers know what they're doing. They know that,

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Speaker 3: you know, the Ravens at over twenty guys on season

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Speaker 3: ending ir at the end of the season, and they're

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Speaker 3: gonna get better just by staying still, you know, by

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Speaker 3: getting JK. Dobbins back, by getting Gus Edwards back on offense,

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Speaker 3: by getting Ronnie Stanley back, getting Marlon Humphrey back, and

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Speaker 3: the other pieces on this defense. Plus you know, Ravens

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Speaker 3: barely miss on their draft picks, right, They tend to

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Speaker 3: make a very very good draft picks. So I think

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Speaker 3: that that's about where I would put them. So do

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Speaker 3: I want a bet that number? Probably not. I think,

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Speaker 4: So I don't see why he would do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think the Steelers should ever be thirty

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Speaker 2: Williams would be the other guy too.

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Speaker 4: To Nacobe Dean and Devin Loyd to your two first

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Speaker 2: Agreed, they need this round.

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Speaker 1: Brady too, that was what he was complaining about. They

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Speaker 1: talk about the NFC right now. The Rams of course,

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys are at six to one.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you in the Green Bay plus six hundred,

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Speaker 3: But I think once he said it, it's pretty much done.

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that they can't do the same

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Speaker 1: All right, let's look ahead at the Super Bowl outright,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he retires either. All right, so enough

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And let's start here with the odds right

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Speaker 1: now and the number one draft pick overall, Aiden Hutchinson

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Speaker 1: We know that Jacksonville has this pick Evan Neil at

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Speaker 1: the odds on FanDuel again for the consensus. You could

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Speaker 3: I don't My two marks that I've done for Fantasy

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Speaker 3: number one overall pick, and I don't look Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the best player. So if the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: are just going to sit there and go, look, we

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Speaker 3: know we got to protect the blond side. They also

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Speaker 3: have a boatload of money to spend, so they could

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Speaker 3: bring back Cam Robinson and have him play left tackle.

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Speaker 3: I believe he played you know, something like ninety something

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Speaker 3: percent the snaps last season at left tackle for them

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Speaker 3: graded out just okay, he played eighty percent.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me.

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Speaker 3: They're also losing their left guard, Andrew Norwell. I mean,

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Speaker 3: but they could resign both those guys with that issue

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Speaker 3: and then just say, look, we're gonna take BPA at

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Speaker 3: Satan Hutchinson and let's go. I've also seen Ike McConnell Conwell,

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Speaker 3: the NC State tackle mocked a couple times that number

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Speaker 3: one overall pick, and he's sitting at what you say

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Speaker 3: was eight to one.

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Speaker 2: Eight to one right now, yeah, plus eight hundred.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's a bad option either. And you know, Jacksonville,

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna be a one year process. Doug Peterson

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Speaker 3: is not going to come in and make this team

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Speaker 3: a playoff contender. I don't think in year one, So

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Speaker 3: maybe they trade back. Maybe there's a team that's obsessed

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Speaker 3: with Kenny Pickett, is a team that's obsessed with Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe they trade back, and at that point

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Speaker 3: it would be like who knows who the number one

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Speaker 3: pick is going to be. So we're early in the process,

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Speaker 3: but I think Hutchinson and Neil are your safe bets.

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Speaker 3: The only other one I would take right now is

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Speaker 3: probably a quant a kon Wu. But if you wanted

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Speaker 3: to lay money on the quarterbacks, fine, But I think

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Speaker 3: from the Senior Bowl and Shrine Bowl process, we just

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Speaker 3: kind of found out, you know, we said. The word

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Speaker 3: I kept saying was unsettled, because I think there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of good quarterbacks in this class, but there's not

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Speaker 3: that franchise.

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Speaker 4: There's no Joe Burrow in this class.

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Speaker 3: So it's a guy that's gonna come in and probably

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Speaker 3: need to sit for at least half the year before

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Speaker 3: he takes over.

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Speaker 4: I think Malik Wills needs to sit a year, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think Matt Kraal could could probably need to sit

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Speaker 3: unless he I mocked him to New Orleans. I think

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Speaker 3: halfway through the year he should be starting them over.

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Speaker 4: Taysom Hill.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think that this quarterback class is

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Speaker 3: one of the very few where there's just not a

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Speaker 3: lock to go in the top five picks, which is

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Speaker 3: surprising for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: All right, speaking of quarterbacks, let's talk about the first

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Speaker 1: quarterback selected. You could bet this actually over on the

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Speaker 1: FanDuel side. Well, Kenny Pickett plus one twenty, Milik Willis

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Speaker 1: at plus one fifty, Sam Howe at six to one,

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Speaker 1: than Macrela ten to one, desmon Ritter at forty to one,

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Speaker 1: and then Carson Strong at eighty to one. So we'll

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Speaker 1: let those guys go. Do you have a lean so far?

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Speaker 1: We'll picket or Willis go first?

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Speaker 3: I mean my favorite is Willis. I think Willis offers

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Speaker 3: the most upside. He also offers a giant floor. Kenny

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Speaker 3: Pickett is your safer QB option. So this is kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, like we pick a last year between Trey

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Speaker 3: Lance and Mac Jones. I think Kenny Pickett's going to

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Speaker 3: come in and stabilize a frand Milik Willis can come

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Speaker 3: in and potentially have all kinds of upside.

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Speaker 4: But are we going to see it this year?

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter for this exercise, of course, but I think

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Speaker 3: right now, your safe option is can he picket? And

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Speaker 3: I mean one of the very few words out of

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Speaker 3: you know, outside of just how these guys kind of

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Speaker 3: separated themselves during the Shrine Bowl in Senior Bowl process,

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Speaker 3: it was clearly picket and Willis It stood out above

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Speaker 3: all the rest. But Matt Corrall obviously didn't participate. He

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Speaker 3: just had ankle surgery after the bowl game. And I

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Speaker 3: read I can't remember who the source was, so I apologize.

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Speaker 3: I think it might have been Matt Miller, but he

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Speaker 3: said he was talking to a scout and he said

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Speaker 3: the guy that had the best week here was Matt

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Speaker 3: Krall because he wasn't here, so which is kind of

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Speaker 3: it's a little damning to this class. And you know, so,

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Speaker 3: Matt Corrall, I think if you're not taking those other two,

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Speaker 3: there's no way I'm taking how Ritter is just such

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Speaker 3: an outside shot. So it would be a Corral attend

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Speaker 3: to one.

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Speaker 2: Corral is a long shot ten to one. And you

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Speaker 2: think the safer.

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Speaker 3: Picket Asot Pickett is a safer one. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: you're not getting much better odds.

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Speaker 1: Well, I feel like the best quarterback that we always

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Speaker 1: like is never the one that's gets taken first. You

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Speaker 1: and I historically have agreed on this, and the order

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Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks we like ends up being the order

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Speaker 1: in which they are good in the NFL, but not

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Speaker 1: always typically the order in which they are selected in

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Speaker 1: the NFL draft.

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Speaker 2: From doing shows with you over the years, that's what

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Speaker 2: I've learned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're both big on Lamar, although I was

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Speaker 3: still I was Josh Rosen in that class, and I look.

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Speaker 1: You were, but I was Josh Allen in that class

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Speaker 1: if you remember too, and everyone thought I was nuts.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, well that was the class where everyone was like, well,

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Speaker 3: these three guys will be good, and these two guys weren't.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I think all of them could be pretty good, right,

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Speaker 3: and especially Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: I mean my couple of my Dyoasty leagues.

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Speaker 3: I have Josh Allen rostered because I believed in him

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Speaker 3: and he was going just late. You know, everyone's taking

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Speaker 3: Lamar and all those other guys. So but anyway, I digress.

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Speaker 3: It's it's Malik Willis is my favorite, but Kenny Pickett's

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Speaker 3: the safe is to go first.

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Speaker 4: Odds aren't long enough for.

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Speaker 3: Me to bet that if I'm betting anybody right now

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Speaker 3: is Matt Crowd ten to one.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like whether it's maybe just the projectability of Matt

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Speaker 1: Corrow being the better investment on the board.

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Speaker 2: But I'm with you about Evan Neil. Two to one.

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Speaker 2: Money's pretty good right now. I think I would lock

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Speaker 2: that in.

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Speaker 1: So lock in the Evan Neil, lock in the Packers

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Speaker 1: over at thirteen to one right now, there's some good

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Speaker 1: odds right now and six to one. Double down that

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Speaker 1: bad boy six to one to win the NFC, and

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Speaker 1: then you might as well go go all the way

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Speaker 1: and drop another nugget on there for the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And if it's wrong, it's wrong, but you

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