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Speaker 1: Let me tell you about our special guest, George Nori

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Speaker 1: back with you, and of course we are live for

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Speaker 1: you this Christmas night. Jeffrey Doherty is a Bible College graduate.

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Speaker 1: He spent more than twenty years as a licensed minister.

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Speaker 1: During this time, he discovered his gifts of healing and exorcism.

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Speaker 1: He also saw the cracks in the foundation of big

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Speaker 1: time religion and set out for answers on his very own,

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Speaker 1: as many do. This ongoing journey led him to the

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Speaker 1: development of what is called the New Cosmic Knowledge and

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Speaker 1: expanding body of spiritual technologies that Jeffrey uses to help

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Speaker 1: all kinds of people all over the planet while continuing

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Speaker 1: his para biblical and paranormal research. He also hosts the

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Speaker 1: weekly Christian Whistleblower radio program, author a final Message of

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Speaker 1: the Last Apostle Jeffrey Doherty back on Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: and Marry Christmas, jeff Merry Christmas to you, George. And

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Speaker 1: it's so appropriate that I'm here today because from the

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Speaker 1: very first time that I was privileged to be on

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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, it's always been like Christmas when I

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Speaker 1: get to come on, and I just want to say

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Speaker 1: thank you to you and Lisa and Tom, all the

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Speaker 1: group there, and of course the great audience, because it's

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Speaker 1: always an honor and a privilege to be invited to

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Speaker 1: partake in the absolute epitome of broadcast excellence and our

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Speaker 1: paranormal and alternative media realm. And it's always an honor

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Speaker 1: and a true privilege, and I thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for it. Well, you are definitely welcome, and you will

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Speaker 1: bring a great perspective to the program, Jeffrey, and our

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Speaker 1: audience just eats up everything you bring us, so thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we had a caller who speculated that the Star

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Speaker 1: of Bethlehem might have been a UFO with big light

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Speaker 1: kind of flashing down on the manger, giving the three

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Speaker 1: Wiseman a little roadmap to find, you know, Jesus and Bethlehem.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that? Well, Number one, I

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Speaker 1: think it's fascinating. That was a very interesting show. And

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Speaker 1: I do remember that caller because I'm a coast insider, George,

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Speaker 1: and I'm always listening. All right, great. I think if

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Speaker 1: you take an objective and an empirical look at the

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Speaker 1: original Greek New Testament documents that talk about the birth

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Speaker 1: of Jesus, which is surprisingly scant by the way, it

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Speaker 1: is absolutely a UFO et alien extravaganza. There's UFO imagery

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Speaker 1: from the announcement of his conception right through his birth

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Speaker 1: in Bethlehem. And I'm sure we'll talk about this, George,

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Speaker 1: But once you see it, once you look at it,

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Speaker 1: it's very staggering, very stunning. And what we make of

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Speaker 1: it and how we deal with that information, of course,

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Speaker 1: Is it controversial. I think it's it's stunningly controversial, And

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Speaker 1: you know, we're going to talk about a lot of

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Speaker 1: that tonight. But I hope that the main thing that

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Speaker 1: wasn't really his life that mattered. In fact, he said

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Speaker 1: his life mattered nothing, but it was his message and

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Speaker 1: whether or not we can agree about UFO imagery or

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that we can all agree on

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Speaker 1: George is here we are in two eighteen, and it's

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Speaker 1: we're just moving through Christmas night, and there is still

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Speaker 1: a message that was either presented by this man or

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Speaker 1: coalesced around this figure. And this message still has the

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Speaker 1: in people's lives. And that I don't think there's any

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Speaker 1: very dramatic, incredible situation, isn't it. It really is George.

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Speaker 1: In any time that you have the realm of the divinity,

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Speaker 1: positive occurrence. Jeffrey, are there different stories highlighting the birth

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Speaker 1: thousands of years before Jesus, George's there's a list twenty

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Speaker 1: with wise men, and they all predate Jesus by thousands

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Speaker 1: sundry stories, and even within the New test George, I

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Speaker 1: So there's no end of interesting speculation in controversy around

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Speaker 1: the birth of this man we call Jesus Christ. And Jeffrey,

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Speaker 1: main message you would like people to take away from

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Speaker 1: main message that I always want to bring, whether it's

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Speaker 1: we have a choice of what we believe, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not here, George, to try to force anyone to believe anything.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's just the opposite. I think everybody has

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Speaker 1: I also believe that people have an inherent right, an

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Speaker 1: inalienable right, if we go back to your news segment,

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Speaker 1: to get all the information and to have as much

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Speaker 1: information as they can in making their decisions. That's what

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Speaker 1: I try to do. That's what I think my mission

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Speaker 1: to give people as much information as possible. I'm like

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Speaker 1: the mailman, George. Sometimes I bring bills and people hate me.

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Speaker 1: do promise you this, I will keep bringing the mail.

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Speaker 1: You know, rain, hail, dark of night, all that, I'm

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Speaker 1: still going to be here bringing the mail, George, Do

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Speaker 1: any of these beliefs negate the bottom line, and that

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Speaker 1: is the birth of a very supernatural person that we

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Speaker 1: call Jesus. I would say no, George, And the reason

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Speaker 1: I say it is from a very deep personal conviction.

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Speaker 1: You know, I spent twenty years as a Protestant minister,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say that is true. But from where I was

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Speaker 1: that I've done, has brought me to a place where

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Speaker 1: I would say, today, George, and I'm a much more

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Speaker 1: ardent and a much more faithful follower of the teachings

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Speaker 1: of the Christ than I was back then when I

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Speaker 1: was preaching forty weeks a year as a Pentecostal evangelist.

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Speaker 1: In your words, Jeffrey, what do you think happened some

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Speaker 1: two thousand plus years ago? I think that there was

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Speaker 1: as it sounds, that this extravaganza that happened in Bethlehem

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Speaker 1: a place of confusion, and even put us to a

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Speaker 1: place where we had to start wondering, is God an alien?

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Speaker 1: Is the on of God an alien? Are we aliens?

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Speaker 1: And I think it takes away from the message that

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Speaker 1: it was intentionally done so. And it's my privilege to

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Speaker 1: be able to talk with fair and open minded people

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Speaker 1: like yourself in this great audience and discuss these things

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Speaker 1: to night and see where we all come down on it.

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