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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we prefer kids over dogs.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosen Thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Chris wesleyan podcast studio controversial start to the show with

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic.

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Speaker 2: We are back here on a Tuesday. How about it.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you guys listen. I like kids just fine.

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Speaker 3: I really love dogs.

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Speaker 1: I was just in an argument with you guys just

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Speaker 1: saying that that showing dog pictures has a higher approval rating.

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of people don't get kids or aren't

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Speaker 1: really that into kids, which I get, but dog pictures everyone.

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Speaker 4: Across the board.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like there's like a level of politeness

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Speaker 5: for all. But like, as somebody who shows an obnoxious

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Speaker 5: amount of dog pictures before the show began, I could

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Speaker 5: say that I am pretty annoying when I show people

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Speaker 5: incessant pictures of my sweet, sweet dog Tucker.

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Speaker 3: I don't have videos in my algorithm being served to

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Speaker 3: me of babies. I have dogs. Well, that's that's animals.

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Speaker 6: Soups for me as well. Soups.

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Speaker 3: We gotta we gotta look at everyone's discovery page see

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Speaker 3: what's going on there.

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Speaker 1: I just think there are more colleens out there than

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Speaker 1: than people like me who prefer humans to.

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Speaker 6: Divide us already. Yes, let's stay together.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it. This is a big show.

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Speaker 1: It is our last show together as a trio before

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Speaker 1: the NFL draft. That's Colleen takes the big airplane and

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Speaker 1: then a connecting flight, probably because there's not direct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she took the I threw out my back. I

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Speaker 4: don't know how I'm gonna walk around on the stage

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Speaker 4: and heels.

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Speaker 1: You've got You've got about a week to get ready,

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Speaker 1: and this has been a really like push our chips

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the table and really start prepping

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Speaker 1: for this draft. So this show is all about the

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Speaker 1: most fast Sanatan characters of the twenty twenty five. We're

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Speaker 1: not even going to mess around with news. We're just

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Speaker 1: going to dive right into the segment.

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Speaker 2: Let's just go about it.

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Speaker 1: We have it broken down into different categories, and I

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Speaker 1: think let's start with the GM head coach category. Let's

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Speaker 1: start there, and let's start with Jordan Rodrick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really excited to watch James Gladstone, Liam Cohen,

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Speaker 5: and Tony Bisselli Taxonville Jaguars have their first draft of

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Speaker 5: this new regime, and yes, that's a no brainer if

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Speaker 5: you know me at all. But it's interesting for a

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Speaker 5: number of reasons. One, James Gladstone is the second youngest

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Speaker 5: GM who's going to be drafting. I believe Andrew Berry

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Speaker 5: was the youngest GM in NFL history several years ago.

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Speaker 2: Well that's gone great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, It is interesting though, because they got it later

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Speaker 5: start than everybody else. And if you're going to install

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Speaker 5: a new general manager before the draft, as the Jaguars did,

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Speaker 5: in particularly late in the process as they did, there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of catchup to be done, a lot of

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Speaker 5: things to kind of integrate into the building. And then

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Speaker 5: what I do know about James and about Liam and

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Speaker 5: about Tony is that they're also trying to make sure

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Speaker 5: that they're not just doing a clean sweep of process

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Speaker 5: and ideas. It's sort of a marriage between the old

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Speaker 5: and the new, and like pruning some of the old

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Speaker 5: that didn't work, that they don't believe worked, and making

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Speaker 5: sure that people are heard the processes that do work

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Speaker 5: are actually installed and implemented, and then also marrying some

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Speaker 5: of the modern things that James did, especially with the

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Speaker 5: Los Angeles Rams, into their process as well.

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Speaker 6: And I think it's going to be really interesting.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of a Frankenstein draft because you are a

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Speaker 5: building still in transition. So I think twenty twenty six

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Speaker 5: will be most reflective of what this group as a

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Speaker 5: trio will truly start to do together. But this one's

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Speaker 5: going to be really interesting because they have to start

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Speaker 5: rebuilding this roster and some of the older players that

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Speaker 5: they did sign in free agency and replacing them with

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Speaker 5: rising and ascending draft picks.

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to be super interesting.

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Speaker 4: Frankenstein draft really got me. I love that term.

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Speaker 3: But like, so, what do you think that Mason Graham

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Speaker 6: With James Gladstone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so I feel like he There's a lot

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Speaker 5: of things that I got to see last year when

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Speaker 5: some of the ways that they overhaul, like I guess

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Speaker 5: tried and true practices for other teams, Like we already

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Speaker 5: we already know they don't go to the all star

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Speaker 5: events like the Scouting Combine, the Senior Bowl. You know,

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Speaker 5: they don't. They don't go to uh a lot of

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Speaker 5: these like off season visits. They do the pro days,

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Speaker 5: they don't do thirty visits. Do we have sound for that?

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Speaker 2: We do?

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Speaker 5: We do?

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Speaker 2: Just walked right into it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 7: I don't view myself as having this extreme, uh superpower

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Speaker 7: of deciphering the complexity of a person in an hour, right,

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Speaker 7: I would probably I can work that in tandem. But

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Speaker 7: there are other mechanisms that we tend to lean into

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Speaker 7: in fact a fit for us more than just a

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Speaker 7: singular touch point that would be a top thirty visit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let me explain this.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I want to hear Colleen's reaction just to that,

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Speaker 1: because it was so strong when James Gladstone started speaking that,

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Speaker 1: I just want.

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Speaker 6: To I know, I just he's a child, because it

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Speaker 4: It was just all very unexpected.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting him the way that he looks, also

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Speaker 4: It just it just caught me off guard a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was perfect.

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Speaker 5: Okay, if you guys will indulge me in like a

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Speaker 5: little bit. I was thinking about this a lot over

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Speaker 5: the last couple of days, because this is topical right now,

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Speaker 5: with the thirty visits and the fact that the Rams

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Speaker 5: we've known for a while that they don't do the

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Speaker 5: thirty visits instead, and the Jaguars are sort of following

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Speaker 6: That's because the.

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Speaker 5: Guy who started this process for the Rams over the

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Speaker 5: last two years, James Gladstone, is now the GM of

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Speaker 5: the Jaguars. Jaguars are not doing the thirty visits in

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Speaker 5: the traditional way, which are the visits that prospects come

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Speaker 5: one thing that the Rams do that the Jaguars will

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Speaker 5: like I said a Frankenstein yeahen of this now is

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Speaker 5: they don't bring prospects in they go to them. They

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Speaker 6: They're trying to.

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Speaker 5: Remove those things from the equation and look at the

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Speaker 5: actual scout who they hand select as somebody who is

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Speaker 5: going to get on the whiteboard with these prospects at

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Speaker 5: a place, whether it's their college or within a fifty

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Speaker 5: can do as many of those as you want, and

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Speaker 5: you don't have to report them to the league, which

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Speaker 5: is the so they don't leak right unless the agent

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Speaker 5: between the agent and the team that like, this is special,

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Speaker 5: you're not going to leak it. So what happens at

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Speaker 5: those visits is whoever the scout or the former coach

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Speaker 5: with the prospect in what is deemed to be their environment.

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Speaker 5: They'll get them on the whiteboard for several hours. It's

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Speaker 5: not just a come in and do a job.

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Speaker 6: Interviewed now hours on the whiteboard, they get into the weeds.

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Speaker 5: They go into the community with the prospect, interacts with

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Speaker 5: their community, and they will basically see the player like

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Speaker 2: That conversation while it's like a great symphony.

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Speaker 5: I'm semper passionate about this because I think the draft

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Speaker 5: is such a crapshoot of a process that all these

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Speaker 5: teams are trying to control like all the little tiny

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Speaker 5: variables that they possibly can control. And I think that

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Speaker 5: if all I see out there, and all I've seen

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Speaker 5: for years, and it's probably because of where I've just

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Speaker 5: you know, where I've been covering the team I've been covering,

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Speaker 5: all I see is, oh my gosh, they don't do

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Speaker 5: what they don't oh here, they don't do this process

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Speaker 5: the same way.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, stop, this is not No. Thirty two.

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Speaker 5: None of the thirty two teams are the same. They're

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Speaker 5: not going to evaluate talent the same. The draft is

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Speaker 5: not a binary process. The draft changes every single year.

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Speaker 5: So why are you not changing every single year? Why

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Speaker 5: aren't you trying to figure out and ascertain what works

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Speaker 5: for you how you best feel like you get the

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Speaker 5: best information. Not every team is going to be like that.

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Speaker 5: Brad Holmes also comes from out of this building. He

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Speaker 5: likes to be on the road, He likes to be

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Speaker 5: in with the scouts. It really works for him and

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Speaker 5: for the Detroit Lions and for Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 3: I want to see a breakdown of every team and

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Speaker 3: like the differences, like what they do differently than other teams,

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Speaker 3: or what teams do the same, like I kind of

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Speaker 3: want to know the strategies for each team. Is there

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Speaker 3: is this in an Excel document somewhere.

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Speaker 2: In general up Life's mission.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, has a lot of group think, and it's good

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Speaker 1: that teams like the Rams and the Jaguars now because

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Speaker 1: the Gladstone are attacking it a little bit differently.

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Speaker 3: I call him Mason Graham because that's who I thought

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Speaker 3: you're gonna draft.

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Speaker 2: So we would have just edited, we would have just

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Speaker 2: edited out.

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Speaker 4: I brought it back round.

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Speaker 6: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's after so many of these like super

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Speaker 5: super fun shows. I immediately knew exactly it was like

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Speaker 6: We just knew exactly what it was.

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Speaker 4: It was like, damn it, it was the Prospect.

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Speaker 1: They also are in a weird spot because they have

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Speaker 1: the five pick, and I do just think everyone with

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Speaker 1: like a four to ten pick in this draft drew

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Speaker 1: the short straw, like this was a bad year to have,

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Speaker 1: or even like a four to fifteen pick that everyone's

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Speaker 1: getting pushed up. That none of these guys would have

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Speaker 1: been like a consensus top fifteen, top twenty pick in

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Speaker 1: previous years. So it's just very tricky and I remember

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Speaker 1: that interview we did with James Gladstone at the scouting

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Speaker 1: combine when we said he had ten picks and he said,

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Speaker 1: well for now, And I think he could be a

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Speaker 1: team that is trading up with some of his later picks,

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Speaker 1: but he also could.

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Speaker 2: Be a team that's that's trading down.

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Speaker 1: If anyone has their eye on on that number five overall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I might mention that coming up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and to reiterate because I'm, like I said, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm being a dork, but like I'm so passionate about

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Speaker 5: this topic, Like.

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Speaker 6: You can't even the way that they're approaching it now.

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Speaker 4: I like that you're pounding the table.

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Speaker 1: It's such a it's such a difficult exercise. Because all

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Speaker 1: Right, and it had worked out, then they would be

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Speaker 1: Actually, so many things have to align on let's go

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Speaker 4: And would they be willing to take a quarterback with.

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Speaker 4: Even the class in two years.

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Speaker 3: So I want to know for Andrew Barry, I'm watching

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Speaker 5: You know, what would not surprise me is to see

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Speaker 5: Like if you see the quarterback you want take the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: What else could go wrong?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, right, I just have a hard time because we

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Speaker 2: With just can you pick it?

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Speaker 1: They're just going to be cool with who falls to them,

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Speaker 5: Last season, you have the recency bias of Bonix and

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying.

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Speaker 2: I just think there's like a cut off line.

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Speaker 8: I don't think yet. I think it's still a little

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Speaker 6: Colleen, I could not help but laugh.

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Speaker 5: Because I thought what you said a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: I think I think they're the most likely team.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think many teams are going to have

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Speaker 1: Abdul Carter even over him. I do think he's going

444
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Speaker 1: to be a Cleveland Brown and that Andrew Barrett Barry

445
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Speaker 1: would have to wear that forever if he doesn't take

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunner. So I still think the most like logical

447
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Speaker 1: outcome is the most likely one, which is that they

448
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Speaker 1: just take Travis Hunner.

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Speaker 2: But then you know, you never know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like a no brainer to us. I

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Speaker 6: would agree with that.

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Speaker 3: So who was winning that quarterback competition Tenny Pickett for

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: Laco. I think.

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Speaker 1: My GM coach is going to be another guy. That's

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Speaker 1: it related to some recent news, which is Chris Greer.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned it on the last show you did with

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Speaker 1: US Jordan with Ross Tucker that you don't know what's

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Speaker 1: to do with this Dolphins team and roster, and they're

460
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Speaker 1: in a very weird spot. Much like Andrew Berry, I

461
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Speaker 1: feel like Chris Greer should be making decisions based on

462
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Speaker 1: the fact that he probably doesn't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: job security. And then we find out on Tuesday morning

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Speaker 1: that there is quote mutual interest between Jalen Ramsey and

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins of a divorce, according to are Ian Rappaport,

466
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Speaker 1: and it was reported by ESPN on the same day

467
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Speaker 1: trying to drum up a trademarket.

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Speaker 2: Not sure where this started, which side.

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Speaker 1: But it's been a trend for Jalen Ramsey that he

470
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Speaker 1: has an expiration date. And if you actually go back

471
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Speaker 1: and listen to some quotes he made at the very

472
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Speaker 1: end of the season where they kind of asked him

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Speaker 1: to more or less give a vote of confidence for

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Speaker 1: the coaches and what they should do, and he was

475
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Speaker 1: just like, well, that's above my pay.

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Speaker 4: Gris, Oh that's right.

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Speaker 2: I forgot about that.

478
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Speaker 1: That was a little bit of a first sign that

479
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Speaker 1: maybe not all as well there, which is kind of

480
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Speaker 1: crazy because they guaranteed him twenty five million dollars for

481
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Speaker 1: this season twenty twenty five, when they absolutely didn't need

482
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Speaker 1: to do it. They are regretting that Tyreek Hill extension

483
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Speaker 1: and this Jalen Ramsey extension, and yet I now expect

484
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Speaker 1: him to be an ex Dolphin. I guess there'll be

485
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Speaker 1: a market for him, Jordan, what do you think, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Think there will be.

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Speaker 5: I think that it's interesting every few years this has

488
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Speaker 5: happened with him, and if you look at the situations

489
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Speaker 5: of the teams within which those this was happening, it

490
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Speaker 5: was teams that looked like they were signaling toward a rebuild.

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Speaker 6: And this is a player who.

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Speaker 5: You know, possible future Hall of Famer, guy who is

493
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Speaker 5: quite used to being at the very top of his game,

494
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Speaker 5: is getting into I would say, more of the back

495
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Speaker 5: end of his career, and I think it's about wanting

496
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Speaker 5: to go win. I certainly think that it would be

497
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Speaker 5: a big mistake. And I've you know, I covered Jalen

498
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Speaker 5: for a really long time and got to know him

499
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Speaker 5: pretty well in LA. You don't put words in his

500
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Speaker 5: mouth right about these situations, but I would say, like

501
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Speaker 5: I would imagine that winning and being with a franchise

502
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Speaker 5: that expects to win over the next couple of years

503
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Speaker 5: is something that is going to be important to him,

504
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Speaker 5: in a priority for him, and it's you know, yes,

505
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Speaker 5: they negotiated this amount from the Dolphins. Dolphins didn't have

506
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Speaker 5: to do it, So I think he doesn't necessarily feel

507
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Speaker 5: any sort of way about the money itself. I would imagine,

508
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Speaker 5: you know, yes, he would want some security from a

509
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Speaker 5: trading team. But I think to me, in my opinion,

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Speaker 5: if you look at the pattern of these moves with

511
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Speaker 5: him over the last nine years eight years, the team

512
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Speaker 5: is either in or heading toward darker days and needs

513
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Speaker 5: to overhaul and rebuild some things. And so to me,

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Speaker 5: where you hear the word mutual, that's it does seem

515
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Speaker 5: like something that they would agree upon because in my

516
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Speaker 5: just time for him to.

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Speaker 3: Go that contract, though, is going to be so tough

518
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Speaker 3: for any team to take on. It's like twenty one

519
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Speaker 3: million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: I think if it's you look at it just for

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Speaker 1: one year, you know you would if you had to

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Speaker 1: get rid of him next year, then you would take

523
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Speaker 1: a bit of a hit. But a lot of teams

524
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Speaker 1: actually can take that on immediately. People are connecting dots

525
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Speaker 1: between him and his old rams coordinator Raheem Morris, and

526
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Speaker 1: that could be an interesting addition for the Falcons, who

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Speaker 1: I think even though pass rush is a bigger need

528
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Speaker 1: for them, it would really yeah, it would they need

529
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Speaker 1: a lot on defense and it would juice up their secondary.

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Speaker 2: I could see it happening.

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Speaker 1: I could see it being very mutual because by the

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Speaker 1: end of last year I think they were a little

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Speaker 1: sick of Jalen Ramsey two potentially, and he was a

534
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Speaker 1: little up and down a heat.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 1: You're trading for him at a point of his career

537
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Speaker 1: that you can no longer expect him to be a

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Speaker 1: truly elite player.

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Speaker 5: There are three coaches who I would say have gotten

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Speaker 5: the best, the most bought in and the most I

541
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Speaker 5: guess like permeating that sort of like excellence through and

542
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Speaker 5: carrying people with him and gotten the best out of

543
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Speaker 5: Jalen and that is RhE Morris. That's Brandon Staley, and

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Speaker 5: that's also Jonathan Cooley and Gero Everro who are in

545
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Speaker 5: Carolina right now. So I would not rule any of

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Speaker 5: those things out.

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Speaker 1: I also think that Jalen Ramsey and his agent are

548
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Speaker 1: obviously a lot smarter about this than I would be,

549
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Speaker 1: and I don't think they're going out to the public

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Speaker 1: with it and putting up the first sale sign as

551
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Speaker 1: a targeted idea until they know they have good outcomes here,

552
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Speaker 1: places that they want to go, that they have.

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Speaker 6: NFC South teams. I could very much see being.

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Speaker 1: Right and that they already have an understanding that there

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Speaker 1: is a market, there is a team that we would

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Speaker 1: like to go to that would like to have us.

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Speaker 1: So at this point, it's kind of like the Derek

558
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Speaker 1: Carr situation. I'm already at the point I don't expect

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr to ever play for the Saints again.

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Speaker 2: I think that report.

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Speaker 6: Get him out of there before Jalen comes in.

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Speaker 2: For the love of God, that could be it.

563
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Speaker 1: Like I just uh, I feel like putting that report

564
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Speaker 1: out there is kind of like, uh, I'm saying goodbye

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Speaker 1: to you and Derek Carr for the most part. How

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Speaker 1: I think the NFL other people are interpreting his injury

567
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Speaker 1: news is I'm injured for you Saints, but I'm not

568
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Speaker 1: necessarily injured for other teams exactly, which is a wild

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Speaker 1: exactly position to take.

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Speaker 4: We're here too, and it's a strategy.

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Speaker 6: The Saints are here too.

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Speaker 2: It's I kind of like it.

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Speaker 1: There's some Saints fans that I've noticed on social media

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Speaker 1: this week, We're like, like, for the first.

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Speaker 2: Time, I kind of like Derek Cuffer. I gotta give it.

576
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Speaker 2: I gotta give it to him, like he's.

577
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Speaker 1: Pulling a Jimmy Butler and making Mickey Loomis eat that contract.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back with more of the most fascinating.

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Speaker 2: People in the twenty twenty five draft.

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily going through the most fascinating figures

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: So why are you laughing so much?

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Speaker 6: I just I'm laughing at myself.

585
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Speaker 5: Like I didn't expect to open today with like a

586
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Speaker 5: draft rant, you know I did. As I was driving

587
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Speaker 5: in I was thinking about, like how big this year

588
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 5: has been? Insane And at one point I was driving

589
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Speaker 5: to Arizona for a relocated football game. And I had

590
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Speaker 5: a reminder of that today when I opened my glove

591
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Speaker 5: compartment and there was a half eaten bag of family

592
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Speaker 5: sized chili cheese FreeDOS.

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Speaker 6: Felt really good about.

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Speaker 4: Wow, oh, I know we're gonna need to clean your car.

595
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Speaker 6: Be really good about how with it?

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Speaker 2: And on it?

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Speaker 6: I am so far this off season not behind on

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Speaker 6: things at all.

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Speaker 3: You Oh, I mean that's that is what it's like

600
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Speaker 3: to work in the NFL and sports probably in general.

601
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Speaker 3: But it's like anytime the off season quote unquote hits,

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Speaker 3: it's like, oh, now I'm gonna like clean out this

603
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Speaker 3: closet or do all of the things that have piled

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Speaker 3: up over nine months.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what says about my brain though that

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Speaker 1: when you said you open the glove compartment, I thought

607
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: like ashes from the fire were going to come out.

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Speaker 6: It's morbid.

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Speaker 3: I was like, is there going to be a glock

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Speaker 3: in there?

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 6: I'm a woman on the edge.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go offensive players, all right, who, Colleen, what is

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Speaker 1: your most famous You have to answer.

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Speaker 4: The most famous?

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Speaker 1: Okay, now your most fascinating offensive player in this well,

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Speaker 1: there are.

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Speaker 4: So many to choose from.

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Speaker 3: But I'm really really interested to see what happens with

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Speaker 3: Ashton Gente running back out of Boise State. I mean,

622
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Speaker 3: he's been pitched so many times as a generational talent,

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Speaker 3: but let's see what GMS are not cowards?

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Speaker 4: Who's going to take him high in this spot?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I want to know how the league values

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Speaker 3: him as a player and how the league values running

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Speaker 3: backs essentially, especially after watching the Eagles with Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 3: DJ Daniel Jeremiah has gent as his third prospect overall,

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Speaker 3: behind Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter. Lanceerline has him as

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Speaker 3: his highest full stop.

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Speaker 4: Graded player in the draft.

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Speaker 3: We know that Bjon Robinson he went high, but I'm

633
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: just wondering if there's any chance that anyone would trade

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Speaker 3: ahead of the Raiders for him, because that's where he's

635
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: been mocked in most drafts. So maybe or you could

636
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Speaker 3: have the Raiders trading up with the Browns to take

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Speaker 3: a quarterback. There's so many different things that you could

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Speaker 3: kind of do in this situation. I was wondering, too,

639
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Speaker 3: could the Jags trade out of five to someone who

640
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Speaker 3: really wants to jump up and get him?

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Speaker 4: Is that too high? Five? Like?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is. But trading up for a

643
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: running back would be next level. Running backs are back back,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I think him going at six would not be next level.

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Speaker 1: I think amar and Hampton is such a good prospect

648
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Speaker 1: that he's definitely going to the first round, and I

649
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Speaker 1: don't think anyone would be surprised if another running back,

650
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Speaker 1: Travion Henderson specifically, would go in the first round. So

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Speaker 1: I do think running backs will be back. Trading up

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Speaker 1: ahead of the Raiders is crazy back the Jaguars could take.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy for the Jaguars to take Ashton.

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Speaker 3: Jensen, Absolutely not, he's also from Jacksonville connection.

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Speaker 5: But I also think it would immediately be very clear

656
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Speaker 5: it's not just that running backs are back, it's like

657
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Speaker 5: outlier players. Yeah, raid up and draft outlier players. That's

658
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Speaker 5: that's part of the Saquon Barkley effect. Isn't just the

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Speaker 5: resurgence of running backs and the return of like widespread

660
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Speaker 5: gap scheme and maybe moving a little bit more away

661
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Speaker 5: from zone and bigger players on the interior and linebackers

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Speaker 5: that need to defend the run. Like you also are

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Speaker 5: seeing like these outliers pop in this way. So it's

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Speaker 5: not just running backs being back and like worth the

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Speaker 5: capital in the first round, but all also for something

666
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 5: like that you would be stating as an NFL team,

667
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 5: this is an outlier player regardless of position, that is

668
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: worth this investment in regardless because we've seen what specifically

669
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 5: an outlier player regardless of position can do Philadelphia.

670
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: If someone jumps ahead of the Raiders, how upset will

671
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly be.

672
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: They love a run, they might just like take Traveon

673
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: Henderson at six, which would be which sounds like a

674
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: wild reach. And I'm making the Chip Kelly connection because

675
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: you know he was with him at Ohio State. But

676
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: when I hear MJD talk about Eric Bienemy, who's the

677
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: running back coach of the Bears, is texting him late

678
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: at night, you know, sending him how pictures of Travon

679
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Henderson and pass bogging. And then DJ who is as

680
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: tight end at this time of year as literally any

681
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: human on the planet. He's got him up there like

682
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: that high and like saying he's gonna go high, like

683
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna go high too, because he's a true three

684
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: down player. And so that's why I think that I

685
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: think the Bears are takes game running back, and I

686
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: think there's a pretty good chance the Raiders would take one,

687
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: even in a crazy world where Gent's gone, but I

688
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: don't think he would be. But even if the Raiders

689
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: pass them, I think the Jets are another potential running

690
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: back team in this class. There are going to be

691
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: so many people hate to say this at this time

692
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: of year, there's going to be so many disappointments out

693
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: of these top twenty picks. And it's kind of like

694
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: an NBA team that doesn't have any good players, but

695
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: someone has to score twenty points, someone has to get

696
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: twelve rebounds, someone has to score seventeen points, like the

697
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: vacuum will be filled, you know what I mean. And

698
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: so we are talking about all these players in the

699
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: top twenty five like it's a normal top twenty five,

700
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: but normally we wouldn't be talking about them this much.

701
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: And even in a.

702
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: Normal draft, half the players kind of turn into disappointments,

703
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: and you never talk about that ahead of time. My

704
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: long winded point is that some of these running back,

705
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: especially gent being number one, it's like it's really hard

706
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: to see them being a disappointment. So if you feel

707
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: like you can hit a double and avoid these possible

708
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: land mines exactly, then go take them.

709
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 5: I think that Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly and maybe

710
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 5: John spy Tech's son would be disappointed. He was at

711
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 5: his press conference a few weeks ago or on the

712
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 5: radio somewhere. He was talking about how his son said

713
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: he threatened to walk out of the family if he

714
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 5: didn't draft Ashton, and John Spytech said something really telling.

715
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 6: I think so.

716
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 5: I think those three in particular decision makers would be disappointed.

717
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: But I don't know that John spy Tech would be disappointed.

718
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 5: I don't know that John spyve Tech would be really

719
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: upset if a team decided, Hey, we want to give

720
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 5: you a crapload of picks in order to jump you,

721
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 5: in order to get or to get to your spot,

722
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 5: to get Ashton Janty if a couple of other running

723
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 5: backs are available, because I think John spy Tech and

724
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 5: he kind of made this comment, they have so many

725
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 5: holes to fill and they want to compete now, and yes,

726
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 5: an outstanding outlier a running back could help you.

727
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: And they gave up that Geno pick too, which probably.

728
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 5: I feel like so I feel like that this is

729
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 5: I would love to be a fly on the wall

730
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 5: in that building right now because I feel like this

731
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: is going to be the top debate. Is they've they've

732
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 5: done all of the They've laid the entire base. They

733
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 5: know oh that if he's there, I would I would

734
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: imagine he is the pick. That's what I would believe

735
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 5: because they've laid the base. They took him out to dinner,

736
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 5: they had the visit, they did everything right. They've also

737
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 5: laid a base to say, hey, come get him to

738
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 5: other teams and give us, give us a lot of

739
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 5: picks so that we can go back a little bit

740
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 5: in the first round still pick up a really talented

741
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 5: running back and also get more offensive linemen, get another.

742
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 6: Receiver to pair with Brock Bowers.

743
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 5: This is where I think John spy Tech would fall

744
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 5: on that side of the.

745
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 4: Equation, even if his son renounces him.

746
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 6: It's a tough price to pay, you know.

747
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 5: But then he said this, He said, well, my son's

748
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: looking at highlights on YouTube and he's thinking about it

749
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 5: in terms of fantasy football, not team building, right, And

750
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 5: I heard, damn.

751
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: Okay, you could always you can always get another son. Yeah,

752
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: but you'll only be number six.

753
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 4: You have the dog parting to walk out honestly cover.

754
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: So if three running backs go, and that's one where

755
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: I would I saw the over under for running backs

756
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: in the first round is two and a half, I

757
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: would jump on that before that changes. I'm not we're

758
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: not allowed to be involved in that, but I just

759
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: think I think that's going to change by the time

760
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: the draft even happens. But it would be the first

761
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: time since twenty eighteen when Saquon Barkley, Rashad Penny and

762
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle.

763
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we're taken.

764
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe this was the class that ended running

765
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: backs getting taken high for a little.

766
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 6: While, because sil has two Super Bowls in the.

767
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: In the second round, Ronald Jones, carry On Johnson and

768
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: Darius Geis where.

769
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: The second round picks? Wow? Uh yeah, I.

770
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: Always I always defended that Sony Michelle pick. It got them,

771
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: got them a nice playoff run. All right, I'll go

772
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: with my most fascinating offensive player.

773
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: It's Tyler Warren.

774
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: The tight end out of Penn State, just because he's

775
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: such a unique player that I don't know what.

776
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: To do with that.

777
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: He's so exciting and you want to believe in him,

778
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: but he also is like if I was running a team,

779
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: I would be pretty afraid to take him. I don't

780
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: think he would be my guy. Like I know, Daniel

781
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: Jeremiah loves him. He's got him number six overall. But

782
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: he's such a unique player. You're not going to have

783
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: the testing data on him. He's refused to do that,

784
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: which is it's not a red flag necessarily anymore because

785
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: no one's testing, but it's a little bit of a

786
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: red red flag for him specifically because he's like a

787
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: terrible blocker and he doesn't look that fast, and so

788
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: you're counting on this guy who has such a one

789
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: on one skill set, which is that when he has

790
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: the ball, he runs over people in a way that

791
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen. He's like, he's

792
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: like and I hear I heard Oli Connolly or was

793
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: John Ledyard maybe compared him to like what people imagine

794
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow actually would have been if Tim Tebow was

795
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: a tight end. But you're combining him in Deebo and

796
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill and just like, to me, he reminds me

797
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: of Jeremy Shaka you a little bit, but oh my god,

798
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: really where like you don't even know can this work

799
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: at the NFL level? And also he was on Penn

800
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: State's team forever and they never figured out a way

801
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: to make him work, and the very end of his

802
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: fifth year and then suddenly it was like the craziest

803
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: player on the planet. So he could be the most

804
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: exciting player from this entire class when he's out on

805
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: the field, if he works, and yet I feel like

806
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: if he gets drafted by some basic team without a

807
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: lot of creativity, like it might really bust. And I'm

808
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: like a little fraid of so I'd find him fascinating.

809
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea where he's going to go.

810
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

811
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 5: I love this topic because it also opens the conversation

812
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 5: that I think we more people need to have this

813
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: time of year, and DJ is extremely good at articulating.

814
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 5: This is the difference between evaluating a player in a

815
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 5: vacuum of evaluation in a big board, ranking in a

816
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 5: consensus top one hundred, in those types of things, versus

817
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: the other side of things, which is again DJ's done

818
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 5: this on the other side as well, Like of what

819
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 5: it looks like for a team specifically to be evaluating

820
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 5: this player, how he fits, what traits match to what

821
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 5: the coaching staff is communicating within their system, within their scheme.

822
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 6: Does this actually work?

823
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 5: Would this be something where they would create for this

824
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 5: player or would they would he be able to fit

825
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 5: into the mix immediately and have an actual plan for

826
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: him to maximize his ability. Now, if that's not the case,

827
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 5: do you spend that high draft capital.

828
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: On this time you spend it on Colston Lovelan is

829
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: what I think, because he just looks like all the

830
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: other tight ends in the league. He should be a

831
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: scal That makes me feel safer. But maybe I'll be wrong.

832
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'll be wrong. It's not that I'm anti

833
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren.

834
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: I just like, no, no, I know, I think, But

835
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 5: I do think it opens up a really interesting conversation

836
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 5: because there is what the like the ecosystem, the commercialism

837
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 5: around the draft is and then there's also, in duality,

838
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: the conversation that's happening in these buildings about matching players

839
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 5: and matching traits to that.

840
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: Building, even coaching styles too.

841
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, he just needs like a creative guy, like

842
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: not to pick on Zach Taylor. Something's like he just

843
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't make any sense on the Bengals, you know, because

844
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals do, they do what they do. Need you

845
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: need someone who's gonna just be like, build the whole

846
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: ship out of Tyler Warren. He's that type of player.

847
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: All right, you're up.

848
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: You're up.

849
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 5: That's like the same thing as when I say, actually,

850
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 5: good point, Greg, not to pick on Zack Taylor proceeds

851
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 5: to pick on Zach Taylor.

852
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm scrolling. What are we doing?

853
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 2: Offensive player player?

854
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 6: Oh cool?

855
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to talk about the wide receiver class overall.

856
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 5: I mean, we go pretty general on this because I

857
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: know this is a big topic, but I just have

858
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: this feeling, especially watching the tape of some of these guys,

859
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: that like, this is actually a wide receiver class where

860
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 5: outside of the double position Travis Hunter, who's going to

861
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: be a phenom, and then there's like Ted McMillan and

862
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 5: Matthew Golden and they're kind of flip flopped on some

863
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 5: people's boards as Consensus one. After however much Travis Hunter

864
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 5: plays receiver Consensus two three, they're flipped a little bit,

865
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 5: but outs after them and after like the top fifteen

866
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 5: and maybe even the top twenty five and deep into

867
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: the second and third rounds.

868
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 6: I think this.

869
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 5: Class is full of guys sort of like the career

870
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 5: arc of like a Chris Godwin for example, that you're

871
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: just gonna see them sustain like they That's interesting. So

872
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 5: a lot of guys that can do a lot of

873
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: different things. They have exciting traits, a lot of guys

874
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 5: that can match and fit in a lot of different systems.

875
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 5: I'm talking about Luther Bird and Jalen nol, Amika Buka,

876
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 5: Jack Beck, Kyle Williams. I feel like all of these

877
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: players could really you could get them in the second

878
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 5: or the third and they'll be in your building for

879
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 5: like a decade. And I know that's like a heavy

880
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 5: thing to say, especially this time of year it's super buzzy,

881
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 5: but it just seems like these guys can do these things.

882
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: They have these traits, and they have the versatility a

883
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: lot of them do, and they have this like ability

884
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 5: okay you need it to Okay, great, this guy can

885
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: be a two. You eventually need a one. In three years,

886
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: he'll be a one. Like high volume people as well.

887
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: And it seems like it's coming from too just it's

888
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: a general wave and trend that's happening because of what's

889
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: putting at the collegiate level and how they're playing the game.

890
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: It's just churning out.

891
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 3: These wide receivers that are much more talented than years past.

892
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: If you take Hunter out, which you kind of can't,

893
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: because to me, he's maybe the best wide receiver prospect

894
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: in the last few years.

895
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 6: Like I think he's one.

896
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: He's at the level of Chase but it reminds me

897
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: a little bit of the draft where Terry McLaurin went

898
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: twelve among wide receivers, and so I pulled it up.

899
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been able to remember off of that

900
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: man who before.

901
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and many of them game, a few of them

902
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: were incredible. Aj Brown went fifty first in that class

903
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: overall late in the second round. His college teammate went

904
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: sixty fourth at the very end, the last pick of

905
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: the second round. So there were some major hits. Deebo

906
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: went at the top of the second round, but then

907
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: like the guys who went in the first round were

908
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and Ni.

909
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: Kil Harry yikes.

910
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: It was a really deep class where people were really

911
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: excited about Micole Hardman, jj ar Sega Whiteside, who the

912
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: Eagles I know took instead of you know, DK Metcalf

913
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: and then they end up getting a Paris Campbell, Andy

914
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: Isabella Deontay Johnson goes later in that draft, like people

915
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: were excited about Keem Butler, where it's just like there's

916
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: all these guys, and this class feels a little bit

917
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: like that to me, where it feels like there's fifteen

918
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: good guys and we just know from history that only

919
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: five will truly pop. But I think there's a lot

920
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: of good, solid players.

921
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 5: I will take the converse of that, which tends to

922
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 5: be more optimistic than you, because I actually think that

923
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 5: because if you look at just the trade matching and

924
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 5: just the way, like some of those guys that you

925
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 5: named that didn't quite work out, like had one phenomenal

926
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 5: thing that they did extremely well that was eye popping

927
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 5: and had everybody sort of buzzing in their direction. And

928
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 5: these guys, I think, especially a lot of the ones

929
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 5: that I just named, can do a lot of different

930
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 5: things and they're like puzzle pieces that I think, especially

931
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 5: the way that we're thinking about offense right now and

932
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 5: the systems that have permeated across the league, like we're

933
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: looking at puzzle piece receivers in ways that are like, okay,

934
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: can you do multiple things well? And maybe you do

935
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 5: this A plus thing and this B plus thing, but

936
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: we already have an A plus guy on our roster.

937
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 6: We're gonna take this guy.

938
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 5: And plug him in in a B plus position here

939
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: that he does at a B plus level, and now

940
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 5: we have two A plus people because we have a

941
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 5: complimentary view of all of this, where you're not just

942
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 5: gravitating and fireflying toward like, oh my god, he's massive,

943
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 5: you know like that that kind of a thing that

944
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 5: I think was that was an a Kille problem at

945
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 5: the time.

946
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Massive was underrated. That Remember that picture of AJ Brown

947
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: and DK Metcalf like lifting weights at almost if anyone

948
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: had just looked at that picture and drafted off that picture,

949
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: they would.

950
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 4: Not have gone like wide receivers.

951
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: They would not have gone south. It is out.

952
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: It is crazy to those two guys of all people

953
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: went that wentn't that late?

954
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: Like when they had the physical gifts that they had.

955
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about it was at the time,

956
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: that's not what I meant, you know, just saying big, fast, strong.

957
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 6: Getting the way, stay in the way.

958
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: And there was like whispers about their like whether they

959
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: had the dog in them?

960
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: Whether where is that is like one of the funniest.

961
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: It's a crazy time of here all saying if they've

962
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 5: picked those conversation back up and mark the mark the

963
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 5: timestamp in like three years, okay, I would guess that

964
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 5: a lot of these guys that I just mentioned will

965
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 5: be successful.

966
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 6: And you didn't have to get him in the first round.

967
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: I love a time capsule.

968
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: We will be diving deep into the wide receivers on

969
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: our next show actually ooh with Matt Harmon and I

970
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: love him Clay Bo love him. Yay, old friends from

971
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Life Show. Let's take one more break and

972
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: then we'll wrap up with our wild card choices with

973
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 1: the most fascinating people in the NFL Draft twenty five.

974
00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: It's the last NFL Daily with Ever and Collie and

975
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: I for the draft.

976
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: But you will be back next week.

977
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 6: Jordan Craig the Scout.

978
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: I'm not letting you go. Yeah, anyway, you got a

979
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: busy week. I might do we might do.

980
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: Our mock draft with you, because I want to do

981
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: one before before the draft, one last one, one second,

982
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: one first one for me.

983
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 5: I hope you're ready to like physically fight over some

984
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 5: of these guys.

985
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: Is that?

986
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: Where are you guys going to do it? I gone.

987
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: I took like six weeks, I would say, of boxing

988
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: three years ago, so I think I'm ready.

989
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 6: With the personal trainer now.

990
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: Steven, there you go, big time Raiders fan. This is

991
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: all embarrassing. Let's talk about our wild cards before we

992
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: say goodbye. So this could be this could be anything

993
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: or anyone let's start with Colleen.

994
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: Okay, my biggest wild card, it's Trey Hendrickson.

995
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: Oh I just like, I know.

996
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 3: The Bengals have turned down multiple trade offers for him,

997
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 3: and they have the cap space to make a deal.

998
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: But everything that goes by, I just become more and

999
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: more convinced that something is going to happen and they

1000
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: might end up trading him. Maybe it happens on Draft Day.

1001
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: Maybe they're kind of holding that card just in case,

1002
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: and you never know. But I don't know what you

1003
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: could even get for him in terms of round value either,

1004
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 3: Like what would you what would a trade package even

1005
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: look like.

1006
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: It's tricky, these veteran trades that happen during the draft

1007
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: or maybe even draft week, because it's like a catch

1008
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: twenty two. Teams just do not want to give up

1009
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: these picks. They're so close to the draft. They've put

1010
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: in so much work. It's almost like preparing for this show.

1011
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: If you've prepared for a certain part of the segment,

1012
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: you just want to get it in there. Regardless. At

1013
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: this point, they put in so much work, they just

1014
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: want to they want to take the picks because you

1015
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: want to talk best defensive player or most fascinating defensive player,

1016
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: and they don't want to do it, like they just

1017
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: don't want to give it up for a veteran, And

1018
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: yet the value is so good because at the same

1019
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: time they're doing that, they're happy to give up. Oh,

1020
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: sure you want two thirds, so we can move up

1021
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: twenty spots into the back of a second. Like, sure,

1022
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: I'll do that when I'm on the clock, because I

1023
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: really want this draft project. So I think it would

1024
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: make sense for a team out there to give a

1025
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: legitimate offer for Hendrickson and make it happen, because I

1026
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: think they could make it happen.

1027
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, And things get so so much more tense and

1028
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 5: insane in those days, particularly going from Day one overnight

1029
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: into Day two and then Day two overnight into Day three.

1030
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 5: I had an executive one time tell me when they

1031
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 5: were sitting on a really high fourth round pick that

1032
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 5: it felt like going to bed in a hotel with

1033
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 5: the door unlocked and a pile of money under your mattress.

1034
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 6: And I was like, what, that's oddly specific, but it.

1035
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 5: Was like that feeling of like I have this thing

1036
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 5: that everyone wants, yeah, not sure that I can use

1037
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 5: it correctly, Like and I can keep it, and so

1038
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 5: everyone's going to come try to take it this pick

1039
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 5: that I have, and so it gets so tense and

1040
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 5: you start thinking in crazy ways, and like people will

1041
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 5: come with offers, especially if they want to get to

1042
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 5: that pile of money under the mattress. I just think

1043
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 5: that this, if you get this done now, if you're

1044
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 5: the Bengals, you might not actually be able to get

1045
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 5: quite as.

1046
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: Much fair I am worried about.

1047
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that GM or source that was talking about

1048
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: is like, it's just like you. You're at a hotel

1049
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: and the money's under the mattress and you're trying to

1050
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: sleep on it, but the drugs are in the car,

1051
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: and like your wife is calling you, where are you?

1052
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: It's just oddly specific.

1053
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 5: And some guy and some guy is walking down the

1054
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 5: hall slowly dragging a cattle tranquilizer behind him, like no

1055
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 5: country for old men.

1056
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: You know, I love this. We should should make a

1057
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: social clip out of it. All you give me your

1058
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: wild guard.

1059
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 5: Please don't know, Okay, I know that frequently we use

1060
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 5: this man's name and the words wild It's Sam Darnold

1061
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 5: together in a sense so often. I mean the very

1062
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: definition of wild guard. Kirk cousin oh Okay to recap. So,

1063
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins and the Falcons and the Browns have all

1064
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 5: stayed in communication over the last several weeks about a

1065
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 5: possible trade. Obviously, then the Browns went inside signed Joe Flacco.

1066
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 5: It's like four million guaranteed, but he could make up

1067
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 5: to about thirteen million if he depended on playing time.

1068
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 5: Albert Breer said some interesting stuff this week in his

1069
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 5: Monday Morning Quarterback column about how you're basically telling the league,

1070
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 5: like what you think Kirk cousins value is. This is

1071
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 5: his postulation if you're the Browns and in basically how

1072
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 5: much you're willing to pay Joe Flacco if such a

1073
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 5: trade or you don't get a quarterback doesn't work out,

1074
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 5: And it is interesting. Albert has also reported, I think

1075
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 5: Ian and Tom have reported this as well, that Kirk

1076
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 5: Cousins has been really serious about using his no trade

1077
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 5: clause because he's terrified that he's going to get Michael

1078
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 5: pennixed again and so he wants to wait until after

1079
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 5: the draft to make a decision. But like he kind

1080
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 5: of does add a bit of a wild guard, especially

1081
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 5: with the Browns signing Joe Flacco to this quarterback game

1082
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 5: of musical chair as while we're still waiting on Aaron Rodgers,

1083
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: we are waiting on Kirk Cousins, We're waiting on the

1084
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 5: draft itself.

1085
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: For Derek Carr.

1086
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 6: Derek Carr may or may not have a hurt shoulder.

1087
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe that it really does, but I

1088
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: don't believe.

1089
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: How much does it PA I don't know.

1090
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 6: It's like pain scale.

1091
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 5: So I think that this is super interesting just because

1092
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 5: he is a factor in all of this. He also

1093
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 5: is a potential draft week or draft day or draft

1094
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: days plural part of this conversation, depending on what you know,

1095
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 5: what he decides to do and with the Brown excuse me,

1096
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 5: what the Falcons decided to do with that no trade clause.

1097
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: I think Flacco was smart leverage for them from getting

1098
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: stuck in a position where they don't wind up with

1099
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. But I don't necessarily think it changes even

1100
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: one percent, like their chances of getting Kirk Cusins or

1101
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what those chances are, but I don't

1102
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: think Joe Flacco, if they ended up being the most

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00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: likely team he was going to go to, We'll get

1104
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: in the way that because if you're the Browns. You

1105
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: look at it like Kenny Pickett's on a rookie contract,

1106
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: Joe Flack was making four million dollars. You literally have

1107
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: the cheapest quarterback room in the league still, And I

1108
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: think they would be happy to take Kirk Cuns. But

1109
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: they have to live in a world where who knows

1110
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: what the Saints are gonna do, for instance, and like

1111
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: what else is gonna It's an uncertain world.

1112
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Speaker 5: So I know it's crazy to even think about like

1113
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 5: a Falcon Saints trade scenario just because of the rivalry

1114
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 5: and the composition. But actually I could see something like

1115
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 5: this happen in light of this Derek Carr situation, and

1116
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 5: especially if you know Kirk again, we cannot forget like

1117
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 5: he's going to.

1118
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 4: Get to pick I love this so much.

1119
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 6: If he does want this to happen or not, what

1120
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: we do know he.

1121
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: Does give it to me, give me a Kirk to

1122
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: the Saints' trade, Oh the Falcons that I.

1123
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 5: Can hear our friends at the Saints Block Party podcast

1124
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 5: listening to this and just dying at the entire thought of.

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00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: The Saints are here too.

1126
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 6: But but I.

1127
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 5: Clip that, please, But I do, But I do think

1128
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 5: that like you have to factor in the fact that

1129
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 5: the stance he's take and with this no trade clause,

1130
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 5: I mean it clearly was hugely disappointing to him what

1131
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 5: happened to him last year.

1132
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 6: He clearly thinks that he can still play. There was

1133
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 6: all these leaks about an injury.

1134
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 5: That he's sustained late in the season, and now he's

1135
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 5: totally better now and he's gonna be fine, and clearly

1136
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 5: he wants to start somewhere, which is also why I

1137
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 5: think now it isn't interesting, like you said, an interesting

1138
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 5: leverage play, because would you want to go because Joe

1139
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 5: Flacco and Kevin Stefanski paired up for that like wildly

1140
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 5: voted upon Comeback Player of the Year awards season, You know,

1141
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 5: would you want to go in that building now where

1142
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 5: that relationship and that reputation between the two does exist.

1143
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 5: Do you think that you are for sure getting him out?

1144
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 5: Like this is all something, These are all things that

1145
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 5: now the carousel will move and consider, And then you

1146
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 5: have like there's gonna be an odd man out, like

1147
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 5: is it Rogers, is it Cousins? Could it be Derek Carr?

1148
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 5: Like there is going to be a veteran quarterback who

1149
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: is the odd man out. Somehow it is not Joe Flacco.

1150
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: I am so into that.

1151
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: I hear that, and that makes me think that the

1152
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: Cousins thing would be even less likely to the Saints.

1153
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: But maybe in that scenario, there's not a rookie there,

1154
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: like it's it's Kirk Cousins, but they struck out on

1155
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: their rookies or they decided not to go to the okies. Ultimately,

1156
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: here are some players that play the same position as

1157
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco that make the same amount of money or

1158
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: more than him this year.

1159
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna listen.

1160
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: Guaranteed Jared Stidham, Zach Wilson, Davis Mills, Josh Dobbs, Jameis Winston,

1161
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and means.

1162
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: The trauma that he experienced last year during the draft.

1163
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 5: Won't somebody think of poor Kirk exactly all of his money?

1164
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: Well we can this offseason when he's starring in another

1165
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: season of Quarterback on Netflix.

1166
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 2: Money, everyone was just like, hey, let's bring Kirk back.

1167
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 3: Leaves his door unlocked, Cole's cash just stuffed in there.

1168
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: My final wild card is someone near in year to

1169
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: all of our hearts. My wild card for the draft

1170
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: is Colleen Wolf. Actually, she's she's gonna be there. She's

1171
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: wearing her twenty twenty four draft shirt.

1172
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 3: I'm doing the thing that everyone is supposed to do,

1173
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: and I have my last name on the back.

1174
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Colleen with a great cutoff twenty twenty four

1175
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: sweatshirt Belichick style.

1176
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: Sort of not really.

1177
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 6: She said it was too long, and I said, no, Colleen,

1178
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 6: it was normal sized.

1179
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just like to my knees.

1180
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: You know, she she starred at the last draft. What

1181
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: is it in Detroit? It's you know, it's just trying

1182
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: to build up the YouTube body and so you know,

1183
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: check us out to subscribe. It's just a collection of

1184
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: what you.

1185
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: Were working with last year at the draft stand.

1186
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: If you are in Green Bay, you know, yell out

1187
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: to Colleen and how much please love an NFL Daily.

1188
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: It has to include me though, too. I mean not

1189
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: me like my name, but NFL Daily.

1190
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't think HI doesn't count if.

1191
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: Anything, anything, anything works. But all right, I just hope

1192
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: we I hope we get you back.

1193
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 4: You think I'm just gonna like be gone in Green

1194
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 4: Bay forever.

1195
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just uh, it's a big it's

1196
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: a big weekend.

1197
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 4: Missing in Green Bay.

1198
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: It's a big weekend for you, it's a big weekend

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Speaker 1: for our friend Daniel Jeremiah. I mean, well, you gotta

1200
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: stay on top. I feel like NFL Network has the

1201
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: best draft coverage.

1202
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 2: Of course they do, ever one guy.

1203
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend and say that though when

1204
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: I don't believe it about certain competitions. But this one,

1205
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: right now, we've got it. And but you gotta be

1206
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: You gotta be worried about I always feel the eights

1207
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: and mel Kiper and what ESPN's bringing or what else

1208
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: is going on out there.

1209
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: You gotta stay on top.

1210
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 3: I lose my voice every year after the draft, which

1211
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: is bad news because I'm hosting GMFB that following Monday

1212
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 3: through Friday, so you're actual.

1213
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: Tune in and thank you.

1214
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 2: Awesome it is.

1215
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 3: You could see how I fared through the draft, my

1216
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: physical stuff.

1217
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 2: That's how you know. You know, Jordan's like a newbie

1218
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: or is very naive that.

1219
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: She's saying congratulations Colley, Do you get to wake up.

1220
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: At three point thirty for a week all the shows

1221
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: just what you wanted.

1222
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 6: I think you're gonna be great.

1223
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 5: Also, you're a rumor that you are planning on wearing

1224
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 5: So that was a fabulous blue suit that you had.

1225
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 6: Oh I heard.

1226
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 5: Aw, you're planning on getting Greg's name across the back.

1227
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: I just does gonna yell out, just say.

1228
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 6: His name included.

1229
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's all the time we have today.

1230
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't wear it.

1231
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 2: It's okay.

1232
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: You've got a week plus to figure it out. Like

1233
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: I mentioned, I'm going to be back in the studio

1234
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: with Patrick Claiban. Matt Harmon will be via remote. Those

1235
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 1: two guys are old friends. I believe they attended each

1236
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: other's weddings.

1237
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 6: A guy, not a VIA guy.

1238
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: I should be.

1239
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm a Vita Harmon, a guy. We're saying hi to

1240
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon. Football's back