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Speaker 1: Man, we appreciate you coming on the show. Like not

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Speaker 1: only a fan favorite, you one to our favorites ever

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Speaker 1: playing the game. So, Man, we appreciate having you and

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Speaker 1: being in Charlotte. This is just a special thing to

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Speaker 1: be down here in rocking with you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys having me on.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of both of you.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm really proud of you guys and appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking of me in this way.

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Speaker 4: Well appreciate it. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: When you first got to the league, who was the

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Speaker 1: first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 2: The first person that I considered was a challenge. It

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Speaker 2: had to be. It was magic. It was magic because

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Speaker 2: I was you know, I was with Washington Bullets and

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Speaker 2: my first preseason game we played the Lakers, and yeah

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Speaker 2: it was it was in preseason and you know at

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Speaker 2: that time, it was eight preseason games back then, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: where we had practice twice a day, two and a

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Speaker 2: half three hours. So it was a different that was

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Speaker 2: different times back then when they had the trash can

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Speaker 2: over there wait for whoever had to throw up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but magic, I say magic. It was my first introduction

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Speaker 2: to the League, and they made the big comparison to

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Speaker 2: him being six' nine And i'm being five to. Three

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Speaker 2: and one THING i found out About, magic it wasn't

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Speaker 2: about him. Scoring it was about his passion ability and

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Speaker 2: one thing about me and the guys, KNEW i didn't

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Speaker 2: want nobody helping me down on the, block try to

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Speaker 2: post me up with that sword BECAUSE i felt LIKE

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Speaker 2: i could handle myself down. There but he had the

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Speaker 2: ability to make passes out of. It so that was

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Speaker 2: that WAS i Think magic was one of those guys

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Speaker 2: that was a. Challenge and THEN i also give it

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Speaker 2: to you, know AS i got further into my, Career

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Speaker 2: Mark price became a. Challenge AND i say this because

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Speaker 2: you Know mark shot the. Ball he shooting Like stephanie.

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Speaker 2: SHOOTER i mean he was an accurate shooter with distance as.

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Speaker 2: Well AND i like to always help off my, man

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Speaker 2: AND i always try to give my man. Help that

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Speaker 2: was one player that you couldn't leave because he was

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Speaker 2: gonna make you.

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Speaker 3: Pay people sleep On Mark. Price that boy had a.

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Speaker 2: Wedder, yeah and he had handles.

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Speaker 3: Too, yo yo.

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Speaker 5: Yo we live On Low Cass, Charlotte North, carolina and

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Speaker 5: you know we had to come down here to get

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Speaker 5: a legend on. Him we Got baltimore's, finest one of

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Speaker 5: the first to do. It in The Charlotte hornets. Organization

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Speaker 5: we got the Legendary muggsy bowls in the.

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Speaker 3: Building we appreciate, YOU o g.

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Speaker 1: OH i appreciate you guys having me Man, Baltimore. Maryland

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Speaker 1: like growing up In, Baltimore. Merland who put basketball on your?

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Speaker 2: Radar, well believe it or, not it was a director

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Speaker 2: who worked in our neighborhood at our recreation. Center his

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Speaker 2: name was Mister Leon. Howard he was out blessing myself

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Speaker 2: And Reggie, williams who happened to make it all the

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Speaker 2: of us on that high school basketball. Team but Mister

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Speaker 2: howard man at the age of five years, old he

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Speaker 2: took me And reggie under his wing and he came

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Speaker 2: into our you, know our environment which was very, challenging you,

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Speaker 2: know a place where it was a lot of gun,

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Speaker 2: violence a lot of drugs as. Well but he saw

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Speaker 2: just to have no, vision and he just gave us

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Speaker 2: all that information he had us in the day in

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Speaker 2: and day. Out every. Day it was drilling, us grilling.

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Speaker 2: Us especially for. Me he was a smaller stature type

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Speaker 2: getting that understanding how to play the, game the fundamental

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Speaker 2: aspect of. IT i, MEAN i would be forever grateful,

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Speaker 2: for you, know taking a liking a men bridge like.

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Speaker 1: That you played baseball, too love if people don't know

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Speaker 2: Played wrestled was my. Thing THOUGH i played around with,

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Speaker 2: know because, MAN i was the, best you, know ILL

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Speaker 2: i used to wear all my little pins on my

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Speaker 2: undefeated and it came with no criterion of.

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Speaker 5: TIME i don't want to you telling, me Was Kelly robinson, Man, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: Were you had a tally going, on you, know you,

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Speaker 2: just coming down on many pins THAT i had on

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Speaker 2: sport that had no really you, know height, requirement no

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Speaker 2: was you, know considered be good at. Rastling that was

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Speaker 2: all of. That but it came in my tenth grade.

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Speaker 2: Year that's. Great you know you had to make a.

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Speaker 2: Decision you, know Coach wade coaching had told ME i

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Speaker 1: Life when did you know that you was on the

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Speaker 2: against the, BEST i must be included with the. Best

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Speaker 2: and having that mindset each level from elementary from junior

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Speaker 2: know we was fortunate enough to be as they consider

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Speaker 2: assembled you, know going fifty nine to o my two years,

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Speaker 2: there the likes of, Myself Reggie, willams the Late Reggie,

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Speaker 2: laws And David, wingate you, know having so much success

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Speaker 5: School Crazy and that's not like y'all recruiting y'all all

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Speaker 3: Neighborhood you hit it on the.

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Speaker 2: Nose it's not like the teams there is today where

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Speaker 2: they building these high school dominant. Teams we all lived

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Speaker 2: we always Thanked Coach wade for his, leadership you, know

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Speaker 2: vision and making all of us grateful to be with one.

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Speaker 1: Another how was that a coach Like Coach? Wade what

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Speaker 1: did you learn from? Him to make you move forward in,

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Speaker 2: Level how to be a. PROFESSIONAL i mean we was

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Speaker 2: being trained at that in high. School how to conduct

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Speaker 2: yourself the right, way how to go in and do your,

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Speaker 2: work how to continue to keep, improving you, know never

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Speaker 2: being a massed. Up the game always felt, like you,

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Speaker 2: know it's always room to. Improve and we always had

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Speaker 2: that understanding and had that. STRUCTURE i mean we used to.

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Speaker 2: sandbags on our. Back so imagine bricks in your hand

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Speaker 2: so he mentally gave us an opportunity to really understood

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Speaker 2: Was in, college WHICH i thought THE acc was the

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Speaker 2: best conference at the, time you, know playing against the

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Speaker 2: likes of The Michael, jordans The Ralph, samsung Spell, webs

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Speaker 2: i mean each team To Mark price To John sally's other,

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Speaker 5: Belonged how did you get the Nickname Mit? Muggsy, like

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Speaker 5: how did they come? About you, say everybody In baltimore

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Speaker 2: Nickname, yeah, well they stems from being a. Kid people

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Speaker 5: Me i've never known, that yeah, yeah, yeah considered myself

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Speaker 2: YEAH i was at the wrong place at the wrong.

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Speaker 2: so you, know we all, ran but luckily the bullet

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Speaker 2: missed my head and all the buckshots just hit. Me

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Speaker 2: so she basically just gave me that mother. Advice you, Know,

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Speaker 2: TIE i was tired at the. Time you, know you

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Speaker 2: can be anything you. Want you, know don't want to

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Speaker 2: be an expert on your. Life they don't know your,

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Speaker 2: capabilities know your, potential and they sure can't mess your.

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Speaker 2: And i'm, like all, right. Mam but that allowed me

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Speaker 2: Crazy but one of the kids had on the big

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Speaker 2: know they thought it was a. Fluke then he tried it.

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Speaker 2: AGAIN i stole it from him, again gave it to my,

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Speaker 2: SINCE i was seven years. Old, yeah so that's HOW

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Speaker 4: Nickname.

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Speaker 1: Wow how was it when you first got your first

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Speaker 1: oh it's somebody out here that wants me to play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well fortunate for, ME i had quite a few

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Speaker 2: It don't understand that they came to recruit us at our,

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Speaker 2: Set and when they all came, IN i always wanted

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Speaker 2: matter who came through The, door The, georgetown The, carolinas

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Speaker 2: The Georgia, tech The Wake. Forest But Seaton hall was

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Speaker 2: after me as. WELL Pj callismo was the coach at.

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Speaker 2: That Terry holland was after, me he was At. Virginia

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Speaker 2: But Wake foster was the best. Situation you. Know Also,

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Speaker 2: Well he was.

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Speaker 1: There was it almost somebody else In Wake? Forest did

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Speaker 2: Yeah it almost Was Seaton Hall, Hall it almost came

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Speaker 2: to THE pj and crazy the way it all worked.

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Speaker 2: went To Golden state And State yeah, yeah but, yeah

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Speaker 2: of this. Situation you, KNOW i KNEW i was gonna.

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Speaker 2: Play you, know MY popss got put in president that

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Speaker 3: Capacitiy how special was it for you?

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Speaker 5: Guys you said y'all all from the same, hood you

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Speaker 5: School how special was it for you guys to do that,

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Speaker 5: together to become the number one team in the, nation

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Speaker 5: to have all the colleges come into, practice like you

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Speaker 3: Hood you know What i'm.

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Speaker 5: Saying we've been real like you got them coming to

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Speaker 5: y'all the number one team in the. Nation like could

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Speaker 5: y'all have ever to imagine that y'all was gonna achieve

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Speaker 2: Well believe it or, not because we all competed against each,

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Speaker 2: Summertime but when it comes to high, school we, all you,

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Speaker 2: we competed as, kids but we formed together as. Teenagers

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Speaker 1: play the, Game like you Stopped Johnny dalk for he

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Speaker 1: and you you stopped them from getting double digits that

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Speaker 1: game and broke his. Street but what made you take

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Speaker 2: Defense, WELL i Knew for, ONE i knew the, game

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Speaker 2: AND i think people don't understand the importance of the

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Speaker 2: having that understanding of a port guard, perspective And i've

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Speaker 2: just like big, guards just big, guards big. Guards so

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Speaker 2: in order to impack the game as a big, GUARD

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Speaker 2: i had to change it in a way to where

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Speaker 2: a bigger, player you. Know so that extension of the

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Speaker 2: Set if that's, disruptive if that's the challenge of him doing,

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Speaker 2: that then everybody else is going to, have you, know

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Speaker 2: so having that understanding picking out ninety four, feet challenge

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Speaker 2: putting a lot of thoughts in his. Mind not because

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Speaker 2: we all want comfortability bring the ball. Up you don't

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Speaker 2: want that pressure like set. Up. Yeah so having that

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Speaker 2: MEAN i knew THAT i can impact the game in

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Speaker 2: a way where they can't challenge or they can't question your.

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Speaker 2: Height and when you're out there having it in that

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Speaker 2: having games WHERE i didn't even have to, score But

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Speaker 2: i'm controlling the whole, game and we went in by.

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Speaker 2: Twenty you, know they see THE iq, Level they see

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Speaker 2: the way that you, know you able to run a

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Speaker 2: team and then pack a. Team and you know that

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Speaker 2: allowed me, to you, know be looked upon us just

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Speaker 2: like any other.

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Speaker 4: Guard so use a nine four feet guard you go

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Speaker 1: For didn't it make you feel good when them point

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Speaker 2: You and that's what you, wanted because you know that's.

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Speaker 2: Rhythm and not only, that it also takes that notion. Out,

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Speaker 2: well we can just take advantage of his. Size we

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Speaker 2: all that sort of. Things me knowing the, GAME i

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Speaker 2: that back towards the basket at. All that's a win

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Speaker 2: win for me BECAUSE i knew that he his skill

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Speaker 2: set does portray. That so and it only take a

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Speaker 2: work for things that got to be. Moved so having

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Speaker 2: the game and allowed me to keep, being you, know

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Speaker 2: as that starter THAT i, was you, know running my,

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Speaker 2: show running my team as long AS i, Did and

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Speaker 2: IF i wouldn't have got hurt on my, KNEE i

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Speaker 2: would have been out there for seventeen years as opposed to.

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Speaker 5: Like certain, games certain nights like where like you, said

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Speaker 5: go into the game, like, Yeah i'm about to get,

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Speaker 5: Him like, already you know What i'm. Saying you seeing this,

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Speaker 5: cadence you know what he's, doing and you know where

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Speaker 5: he lacking that cause it's so many different highlights and

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Speaker 5: you just taking the ball and going the other. Way so,

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Speaker 5: like was this certain games certain guys you focused on

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Speaker 5: where you focused on weak, things where you, knew like

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Speaker 5: going into the, Game i'm gonna get at least one

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Speaker 5: on this right.

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Speaker 3: Here, well we.

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Speaker 2: Know, everybody all gods have. TENDENCY i always study your,

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Speaker 2: tendency you, know if you like the rocket of, it

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Speaker 2: whatever it. Is so AND i always anticipate, that AND

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Speaker 2: i had a good instinct of that and that was

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Speaker 2: one of my traits THAT i understood how to, play

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Speaker 2: and one THING i messed with guy's mind BECAUSE i

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Speaker 2: can play you in front of you or behind, you

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Speaker 2: and you still think about Where i'm at because that's

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Speaker 2: the WAY i played the game and, defensively WHERE i

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Speaker 2: would let a guy just go in front of me

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Speaker 2: and beat me because they Know i'm playing defense from behind.

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Speaker 2: Him i'm gonna steal it that. Way but at the same,

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Speaker 2: time if he's not looking at me and he's just

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Speaker 2: looking straight, ahead Then i'm gonna get. It but if

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Speaker 2: you're looking at, ME i know he's not focused on

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Speaker 2: what's having ahead of. Him so you, KNOW i just

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Speaker 2: knew the game in that. Regard. Man that's WHY i

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Speaker 2: always try to tell the smaller, guards we gotta play

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Speaker 2: it a little, different you. KNOW i mentored The Isaiah,

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Speaker 2: thomas The Nate, Robinson's Chris paul's and all of them

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Speaker 2: as they came, in even though they wasn't as small

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Speaker 2: AS i. Was you gotta still play it a little

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Speaker 2: different in a way to where you know you still

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Speaker 2: being that player that you always seen yourself to.

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Speaker 1: Be having so much success in THE acc was so

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Speaker 1: much talent in THE. Acc did that give you a

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Speaker 1: mindset is, LIKE i feel LIKE i can play on

436
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 1: the next level in the, league because you, know you're

437
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 1: seeing all these guys going pro from that conference and

438
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 1: you having so much success in that, conference being able

439
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 1: to play in that, conference did that give you an idea, like,

440
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 1: YEAH i THINK i can go another level.

441
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 2: Higher, ABSOLUTELY i, mean AND i always thought that that

442
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: was just my mindset that THAT i THOUGHT i could

443
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 2: play with against, her play with, anybody but playing AS i,

444
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 2: said playing out at the, time that conference was considered

445
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 2: one of the best conference because The Big east wasn't

446
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 2: really truly established so. Far there had so many, teams you,

447
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 2: know The Seating, HALL i, mean The, georgetown The Saint

448
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 2: john's and so, forth, sircus but THE acc was. Loaded

449
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 2: and being able to have that type of success and

450
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 2: then my junior, year you, know getting that opportunity to

451
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 2: represent THE, usa you, know Good wills, game you, know

452
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 2: and putting that uniform on and being the last collegiate

453
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 2: team to win that gold, medal you, know Me David,

454
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: Robson Kenny smith and and that Crew Steve Carrot nuts

455
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 2: and being that last collegiate team to win. It you,

456
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: know then the eighty eight team lost and then they

457
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 2: sent The dream team in ninety, two but we played

458
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 2: against those. Guys there was professional, guys The drives And

459
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: patrick Bicks bus at the, time you know.

460
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 5: Who was considered afore he came over the legendary when

461
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 5: they were, right talk.

462
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 2: About absolutely and they was considered you, know the mj

463
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: of status over in your, back you, KNOW O Scott.

464
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: Smith you, know those guys are all in The hall Of.

465
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 2: Fame but those are the players that we played against

466
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: in college who was considered pros at the, time and

467
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 2: we was fortunate enough to, win you, know that gold.

468
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 2: Medal but having that success THEN i knew that this

469
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 2: was a means of me putting myself in a good

470
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: situation where not only to make it to THE, nba

471
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: that possibly coul could get.

472
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 4: Drafted, yeah how did that feel?

473
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: Though LIKE usa team when they asked you to be

474
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 1: selected and it's thousands of players that can be selected

475
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: to this team and you being one of them to

476
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 1: be selected to the, team how did that feel for

477
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: you and your?

478
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: Family, well it was a great thrill for, us but

479
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 2: of course that when they first, environment none of them

480
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: THOUGHT i was going to make. It, yeah you know

481
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: that was just a, yeah that was just an invitation

482
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 2: because of the sets THAT i was having and THE

483
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 2: acc and so forth and this and. That Coach krimins

484
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 2: Loud olsen was the head. Coach but coach trem has

485
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: seen me on a daily basis because if he coached

486
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: At Georgia tech and he coached in acc and every

487
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 2: team that we played, on you, KNOW i won in,

488
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: practice so coaching And i'm, like hold, on just gotta

489
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 2: be a. Fit we're gonna put him on the worst

490
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 2: team that we have here, considered and you know we're

491
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: gonna see. It and then of course that team we won,

492
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: again so you, know he. Was it came. Down you,

493
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: know it was, Myself Brian, Shaw Steve, kerr And Tommy Amber,

494
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: Kerr Mark. Jacks it was a whole slew of us

495
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: AND i, was you, know of, course one of the

496
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: four or five guards that were, selected, Myself Steve, Kerr

497
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: tommy Am Kenny smith and Then Brian shaw was the.

498
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: Alternate so we h it was a great, man the

499
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: great opportunity to represent THE usa team that. Year it

500
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: was a lot of things going on in our country

501
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: at the. Time you, know with the ward and so

502
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: things so And Steve, kerr dad had was effected doing.

503
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 2: That so it was a lot of things being talked

504
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: about and a lot of things that has happening at

505
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: the time when we was.

506
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: There but bringing the gold metal back home, THOUGH i

507
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: was that bringing back To.

508
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 4: Baltimore you're bringing the gold medal? Home how was that for?

509
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 2: You was not no kid from the projects Of baltimore

510
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: be coming over with a gold? Medal but that was

511
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 2: a great, moment. Man it was a great feeling for

512
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: me and my family and knowing that we was able,

513
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: to you, know go across the world play against all

514
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: these countries and you, know be successful against, them and knowing,

515
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: that you, know they was professionals in their own, right you,

516
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 2: know consider how long they've been playing the game as.

517
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: Well but it was a great moment for us and

518
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: a great moment for my family as well as our.

519
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 4: School did you do four years wait for? Us?

520
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes you know back in the hour he was

521
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: doing for anybody did? Three you know Them jay's and

522
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 2: that other? World, yeah they did, three but everybody was doing.

523
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: It jordi did?

524
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: Four, yeah you did you feel that you was going

525
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: to get picked high when you came.

526
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 2: Up, well at the, time you, know you hear where

527
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: your stock. Is and at that time they SAY i was,

528
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: projected you, know BECAUSE i think ANY nba, coach SCOUT

529
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: gm or, whatever they was probably real concern about my

530
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 2: size and questionable about you, know THE nba is a

531
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: totally different. World so you, KNOW i got invited to

532
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: the Combine portsmouth In. Chicago me And Scottie pittman happened

533
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: to be on the same team Because scottie was projected

534
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 2: to go late first as. Well but at that performance

535
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: of In, portsmouth we got invited To, chicago and from

536
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: that moment we put on such a show and he

537
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: was happening to be on my. Team you, know my

538
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: his stops it all the way up to five AND

539
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: i went number. Twelve so you, know we all became.

540
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: A lot of. Workouts did you you outside of the

541
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 4: combines and? Stuff did you work out for a bunch of?

542
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: Teams New york was the only. ONE i was supposed

543
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: to go To, denver BUT i didn't. GO i need

544
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: never even go To washington. Work and the thing about,

545
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: well we Knew Mark, JACKSON i knew That New york

546
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: was interested in he AND i one of the, two

547
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: and they had the eighteenth. Pick New york there and

548
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: washed and had the twelve. Pick So mark visited and

549
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: worked out For. Washington so he thought that he was

550
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: going to go To. WASHINGTON i THOUGHT i was possibly

551
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: going to go To New. York but vice. Versas we

552
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: both went home because you Know baltimore right, up you,

553
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: know in the backyard Of, BALTIMORE, Dc and he went

554
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: home To New. York, so you, know how was?

555
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 5: That it was the bullets at the, time but that's

556
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: like you, Said, crib it was kind of like the

557
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 5: back bullder right.

558
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: There how was? That going back?

559
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: Home it was another surreal. MOMENT i mean here it

560
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: is from one getting. Drafted the weight of the world

561
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: felt like it was lifted off your. Shoulders you. Know,

562
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 2: man they were to put that hat on and do

563
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: it like all the other guys doing and go Shake

564
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 2: Commissioner David stern head hand and all. That so that

565
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: was that was a, great great. Moment and doing it

566
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: with you, know, Me reggie and me and both of the.

567
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Regies you, know we all got drafted in the first,

568
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: round which made. History you, know three guys in high

569
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 2: school got drafted in the first, round which was, unbelievable

570
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: but it was just a great. Failure. Man it's you,

571
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: know just knowing that that you you, know you you

572
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: you was able to you, know experience that with the

573
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: guys and have that moment and playing with you, know my,

574
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: guy the Late Moses malone And Minuke, bowl who took

575
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: me under his wing and they both kind of showed

576
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: me the ins and outs of you, know what professionalism

577
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: was all.

578
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: About have you ever played with somebody the height Of Minuke?

579
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 4: Bowl that?

580
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 5: TALL i remember that picture they had a basketballs like

581
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 5: that was, like.

582
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: ACTUALLY i played against you, Know Ralph, sassman but it

583
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: was seven, six SO i knew it was a different.

584
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 4: Animal.

585
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: Man he was such a joy to be. With we

586
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: had so many great, time great moments with each. Other

587
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: i'm so happy for Bow bowl. Kid, yeah one of

588
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: my favorites. Too, yeah, Yeah i'm so happy for. Help

589
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: but it was great times back then playing with those. Guys.

590
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: Man they really took me under their wing and showed

591
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: me the ins and outs of this game and which

592
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: allowed me to last for as long AS i.

593
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 5: Did how was it when you came To, Charlotte, like you,

594
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 5: know you're leaving the crib, basically but but you're going

595
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: to kind of you, know it was but their expansion

596
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: at the, time, Right they're going to expansion, team and you,

597
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 5: know it's kind of like the.

598
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: Unknown how was?

599
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: THAT i was pissed at. FIRST i, mean, yeah, yeah

600
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: because you, know you, know we had Our accent, meeting you,

601
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: know and Our accent. Meeting wessell was the coach at the,

602
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 2: time and you know he's telling he praising you and

603
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: saying that we're gonna get guys that can run with,

604
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: you cause we had a bunch of guys that was

605
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: more on the end of that, Career, Moses Bernard king

606
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: and those. Guys the. Post, yeah so it was, like,

607
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: well we're gonna get guys up, Tempo we're gonna kind

608
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: of fit your, style blah blah. Blah So i'm, like oh.

609
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: Great by the TIME i got to my, CONDO i

610
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: got A i got a call from my, Agent David,

611
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: fall And david, said how do you feel About. CHARLOTTE

612
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: i already know. That i'm, like, sel What's. Charlotte i'm,

613
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: like he, said, yeah, well you know the two expansion

614
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: team that's coming in And washington just got off the

615
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: phone with, them AND i think they're, gonna you, know

616
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: not protect. You And charlotte is calling for you and

617
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 2: they want to draft. You i'm, Like, Charlotte i'm like,

618
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: WHAT i just left my exit. Meeting they just told

619
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: me they're going to do this and do, that And i'm,

620
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: like oh my. Goodness so after about thirty minutes of you,

621
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: know the, SHOP i had some idea about The, carolinas you,

622
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: know playing For wake for us because it ain't nothing

623
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: but an hour and a half from, here and we

624
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: played a couple of schools here In, charlotte but it

625
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: always been known as a collegiate, town you, know not

626
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: known for professional, basketball but you, know coming here and

627
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: being mixed in with some of the older, players the

628
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: Late Earl, Currton, robbed the Late Robber, Reed Kelly, Trapirka Kirk,

629
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: rammers and Then Dale carry was still his second year

630
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: of his. Career and then we Drafted Rex chapman who

631
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: was just coming. In so you know that court right,

632
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: There wrex And dale AND i we really clicked and

633
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: and that, became you, know the cornerstone of our franchise

634
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: for a, minute you, know as we was trying to

635
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: establish ourself.

636
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: Getting lonzo and GETTING lj added to the team had

637
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: this core and then that was missing just kind of

638
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: some of them dynamic players that kind of helped change

639
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: the franchise in the bigger way where we started competing

640
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: and trying to compete for a championship or trying to.

641
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: Compete at a higher.

642
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: Level how was that to get seeing WHAT lj and

643
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: did in college and getting an opportunity to get, him

644
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: Getting Lonzo morning coming out Of, Georgetown, like how was

645
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: that to add them to the.

646
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: Team, well it was a great. ADDITION i mean we

647
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: felt like we were starting to move in the right

648
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: direction by getting those type of draft. Picks you, know

649
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: we had Got, kendle you, know then we GOT. Lj

650
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: and then we Got. Zo so we felt, like you,

651
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: know we starting to really get some quality players who

652
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: now we can compete at the highest level in which

653
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: we started able. TO i mean from the. BEGINNING i

654
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: mean we came out the gates one forty five, games

655
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: then we went into the fifty game fifty game plus

656
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: and was able to in that fifth, year first year

657
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: he thrown you, know one of the elite franchise In Boston.

658
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: Celtics but you, Know parish And michael's still out. There

659
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: so that was a, great great moment for. Us that

660
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: fifth year felt like now you, know we have established

661
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: and we put the franchise on the.

662
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 5: Map that's when y'all kind of became like one of

663
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: the it is, weird but like a fan favorite team

664
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: around league BECAUSE i remember being From, chicago the color

665
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: everybody wanted to start The. Jackets like it was, like

666
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 5: that's just like once y'all got grand my, Mind, zoe

667
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 5: You ken Do. Gibbs you, know that was like for

668
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 5: us as the, Crib like obviously We bulls fans were,

669
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 5: like you know you're going to get gearing stuff like

670
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 5: That Charlotte. Hornets that purple was. Hot it was hot

671
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: in the streets for. Real so like and y'all, had

672
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: like to me a lot of my. Homies we Love

673
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 5: hugh go To. Hornet we felt like that was the

674
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 5: dopest mascot in the, leagues the little. Flip nobody wasn't

675
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 5: doing that flip dunk like him as the first Bro Yeah,

676
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 5: superman so yeah he was. Dope you go To hornet

677
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 5: was one of the one they came back to like

678
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: the Big hornet, now but it was like he was

679
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: like the action figure one to.

680
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: See the, city a city that doesn't have a basketball

681
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: team to get one to this team and started winning

682
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: and being a contender in THE nba that everybody. Loved

683
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: how was it to see the city change for The Charlotte, Hornets.

684
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: Well it changed in several, ways you. Know for when

685
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: we came into eighty. EIGHT i, mean we let the

686
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: tennis for the first nine, years you, know cause we

687
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: had twenty four thousand in the L arena back then

688
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: and we're ten thousand wait. List and then all of a,

689
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: sudden you, know the franchise left and went To New

690
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: orleans in two thousand and, two and then all of a,

691
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: sudden the city got awarded the franchise again in two

692
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: thousand and, four which became The bobcast for a, minute

693
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: and then The bobcast then translated over to you, know The.

694
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: Hornets when The pelicans went back to, well when they

695
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: went to The, Pelicans New orleans went to THE. Pa

696
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: so the city went through a transformation and a lot of.

697
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: Things AND i think once The hornet's Name say came,

698
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: back that's when they really took back off and the

699
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: people really got behind that. Product because that's what the

700
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: product they, know that's what they knew, about and they

701
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: really loved that teal in. Purple they did so this

702
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: day one of the MADE i believe the Entire Bob kat's.

703
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: EXISTENCE i think once The hornets came, BACK i think

704
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: the merchandise took about two months to outsell all what they.

705
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Did and you, know six years or five years they

706
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: was in, existence and that's how much they loved that telling.

707
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: Purple when you Heard Larry johnson nicknamed to Be, grandmama

708
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: what was your first impression of?

709
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: That, well we knew eld who he, was you, know

710
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: we always had that little swag about himself with the

711
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: gold to and when they started that, campaign When converse

712
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: started the campaign with The grandma about him being you,

713
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: know putting the dress, on of course we gave him

714
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: a lot Of.

715
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: He TOLD i was not WITH i didn't like.

716
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: YOU i.

717
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: LOVE i love the.

718
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: COMMERCIALS i really, did because of how they used it

719
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 2: and who he, was because of who he was and

720
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: how he was able to make it come. Across but

721
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: it was. FUNNY i mean we had so many laughs with.

722
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: It but, uh you, know knowing him and knowing his,

723
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: personality he embraced, it and you, know and that was

724
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: something that we all always got to kick out.

725
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Of let's talk more about, that like when y'all dethrowing The,

726
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: celtics Like lonzo hitting that shot at the end of the.

727
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Game they still show that play to this day ON.

728
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: Nba highlight that series and how the city was and

729
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: what was going. On just explain to us more about

730
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: how y'all de thrown somebody who's been champions for so

731
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: many years and people expect them to just get past

732
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: y'all and go on to the next round of y'all.

733
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: Change, well we was that new team coming, in are coming,

734
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: UP i should, Say AND i think how we was

735
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: able to come in you, know LIKE i, said that

736
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: was our fifth year in. Existence i've been an expansion

737
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: team and the players that we was able to acquire

738
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: within that time, frame and the city was just ready

739
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: and for us to be able to again have that

740
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: type of success against you, Know, boston and a lot

741
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: of things happened at the. Time you, Know Reggie laws.

742
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: Delayed reggie lawis you know during that game in the first,

743
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: game you, know he had, collapsed and of Course David

744
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: wing gave myself you, know being on the other side

745
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: saying that. HAPPENED i mean that that was an unsurreal

746
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: witness feeling that you, know you can experience during that.

747
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: Time so we was concerned about it because at first

748
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: we thought he just. Tripped we didn't know the full

749
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: details of until after the. Game then we found out

750
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: the severity of, it you, know but beating you, Know

751
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: boston in those five game series at the, time you,

752
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: know it was just a great opportunity for the franchise to,

753
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: really you, know celebrate of what they'd, done how they

754
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: was able to put forth the effort in trying to

755
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: build something special and what she was able to do

756
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: at the, time and you, know just being in it

757
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: for a short period of time and having that, success you,

758
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: know everybody just you, know it was just, Juvenated.

759
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 5: Like how was the city going? Crazy like my? CALL

760
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 5: i know the city felt.

761
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: Like, listen we had a parade after after our first,

762
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: season you hear, Me can you imagine winning a playoff?

763
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: Game so you, know the whole town was off the chart,

764
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: Then so that was it, WAS i, mean it was

765
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: a great moment man That really we have some great.

766
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: Fans what CAN i? Say we had great fans great

767
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: supporters still to this day that they just love to

768
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: come out and support that team in the.

769
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: League you, know this is the best of the, best

770
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: and you are still master who's that guy or that

771
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: player you played? Against and you was, LIKE i need

772
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: to take the ball from. Him he the ONE i really.

773
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: Want, OH i MEAN i got. EVERYBODY i, know you got,

774
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: Everybody but who's the best one that you? Want one one? Got,

775
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: well you Know Tim, Hardaway You, Tim tim was clever

776
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: with his you Know tim had that you, know his

777
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: just thing here and then come back. Here so you

778
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: had to really time it in the sense that where

779
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: assumes that you, know soonous he in this, moment soon

780
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: as he's going, down you want to be right here

781
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: because it's sometimes it's hard for him to come back with,

782
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: it you, know because the instinct is already there That

783
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: tennessee is already remove. Body but that was one of

784
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: the hard AND i think in Front Fat leaver, Too.

785
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: Fat leader is one of the.

786
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 2: Guys, yeah he was one of the triple double guys

787
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: before triple, doubles you, know for The westbrooks and all.

788
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: That you, know of Course, oscarbay But fat Even Fat

789
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: lever was something. Special back. Then people don't realize how

790
00:36:59,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: Fat leave.

791
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: Was this is.

792
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: Off so BUT i got Like Isaiah, Thomas, yeah he

793
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: just got picked up by The suns and smaller point.

794
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: Guard they say you got to at least be six

795
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: one or sixty two to play in THE nba to

796
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: get an opportunity for them to take.

797
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 4: You, siria how does.

798
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: It feel you, know over your career or you see

799
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: these other small guards where it's not about their, game

800
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: it's not about they off the court.

801
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: Things they can be good guys.

802
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Anything the only problem they have is the, height and

803
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: they stick to the height and they label the. Height it's, like,

804
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: look you just can't play on this level completely for your,

805
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: height not before your for your. Game what you think

806
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: about people who say that about, guys because like we

807
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: Watched Isaiah thomas have crazy, Season All star season and

808
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: all that, stuff and he didn't do nothing wrong to

809
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: be out THE. Nba all it was was you hear

810
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: about is his?

811
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: Height, well FOR i don't Think, ISAIAH i don't think

812
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: it's his hype right now to this. DEGREE i think

813
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: they looked at him after that series From cleveland And

814
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 2: boston and never being the same injury that injury never

815
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: being the. Same AND i wish you would have came

816
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: back during that, time because when you come back and

817
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: you're trying to play, hurt they're not looking at. That

818
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: they're looking at you while you're out on the. Floor

819
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: and at that, time he was on top of his

820
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: game and he was, considered you, know one of the

821
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: guys that was leading points in the fourth quarter and

822
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: considered THE, mvp you, know in that status and at that,

823
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: time SO i think he got some bad, advice But

824
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: i'm quite sure he not thinking about that. Now he

825
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: moved on from all, that and his grind is is

826
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: his motto is slow, grind you, know and then trying

827
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: to get back healthy as he, can because at his

828
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: size and because the way his game, was it was

829
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: all about, scoring you, know it wasn't about making guys

830
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: around you, better and that sort of thing was about

831
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: him putting the ball in the. Bucket and that was

832
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: his skill set what he was able, to you, know

833
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: portray and become good at and everybody looked him at that.

834
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 2: Level when you don't not that serviceable anymore like, that

835
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: you know how they gonna look at. You you, know

836
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: they're gonna try to make all sorts of excuses or

837
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: any kind of means of why he shouldn't be, there

838
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 2: and then it become a. Trend you, know every team

839
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: is a you, know a copy. Cat it's a copy cat.

840
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: Lead and you know how it is when one don't

841
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: feel like you're able and then the, other we're gonna

842
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: look at you the. Same but to his, credit you,

843
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: know he never gave. Up you, know he kept, grinding

844
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: kept getting himself in the best, shape kept looking like

845
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: the old eys are his, movement and you, know and

846
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: then when you, know he went to you, Know Danny

847
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: ayin's game, opportunity went To, utah you, know in the g,

848
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: lead and you, know put his pride aside and just kept,

849
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: balling you, know because he's still passionate about the. Game

850
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: you see a guy that's still passionate about the. Game you,

851
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: know it's beyond the. Money that's what you, said that's

852
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: what you love about.

853
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: It i'm super happy FOR i and, like like you,

854
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 5: say he because it was, people you, know social, media

855
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: people trying to Crack joe's top stuff and put him

856
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 5: in means, something my, boy like you, said head. Down

857
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 5: then he put his pride aside and he stayed down

858
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 5: and like he getting the. Opportunity So i'm super super

859
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 5: happy for, him, man because he, definitely like you, said

860
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: he never let it get to. Him he stayed in

861
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 5: that gym and kept, working. Man AND i, was this

862
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 5: is one of them stories where like you gotta be

863
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 5: happy to see if it come out like this and

864
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 5: he get that, shot and you who knows what the future,

865
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 5: holds but just to get to this, point like you

866
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 5: know What i'm, saying that was to, me that was

867
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 5: validation that it was worth all of the grinding and

868
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 5: everything he was.

869
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: Doing absolutely because he came to, shot he had a

870
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: little stopped a. Shot man did really.

871
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: Well.

872
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: Man it WAS i, mean very, positive. UPLIFTING i mean

873
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: he REALLY i Think mellow benefited from him also by being.

874
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Here So, ISAIAH i ma ain't got a lot to.

875
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: OFFER i just feel to inspire so many small guards

876
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: and to get them to believe, like, oh it's possible

877
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: for you to make it to the high level when,

878
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: heightwise everybody always strikes you out when you're playing with

879
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: so many guys that six' nine and six' eight and,

880
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: so forth on but they always mention your name like

881
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: you can Be The, next muggsy bulls you can be

882
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: the next person that can really make it and have

883
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: success at. The highest level how does that feel to

884
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: just hear that and everybody have you?

885
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: At, That statue well.

886
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: I'M on it.

887
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: I truly am i'm, truly On it and i'm honored

888
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: in regards BECAUSE mainly because i was able. To Do

889
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: it if i'm able, to do IT why, can't i

890
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 2: mean why can't you able? TO do, it I mean

891
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 2: if i'm able, to do it you should be able

892
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: to do. It as, well you know it's not about

893
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 2: the limitation that you. Put on yourself others going to put.

894
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: That on you once you have the, confidence within you.

895
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: Sky's the limits it's all about, the work ethic the

896
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: actions that you. Put behind, it you know how you

897
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: see and whatever that, task is of whatever that, responsibility

898
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: call for if you able to do it at, the

899
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: highest level then you should be able to. Give that

900
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: opportunity but people put too much, pressure on themselves beat

901
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: themselves up and give others that energy that they have that.

902
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: Power over you and when they say, that you can

903
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: you truly believe. That you, CAN'T you know i. Always believe,

904
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: that you know people always tell you who could and who,

905
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: you should, be you know but you always know who you.

906
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: Want TO be and i. Always, KNEW that yeah.

907
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: I never believed and no matter who, was the athletic who,

908
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: was the tallest who, WAS the fastest i always felt

909
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: like the smartest person on the court is the best player.

910
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 4: On the court and most, of the time when.

911
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: You're kind of the shortest guy, on the court you

912
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: more the smartest person on the court because you have

913
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: to figure things.

914
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: Out way more than A guy who.

915
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: I'M six' nine i can slack ON certain things because

916
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: i can get closer to the basket and. It's EASIER

917
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: for me but i always thought the smartest guy on

918
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: the court was always the best.

919
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: Guy, ON the, floor well.

920
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: I mean YOU, can't dispute, the iq you know because

921
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: if you, know where to go you know what's about

922
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 2: to happen, where at, that time then hey. You be,

923
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: out there you know some coaches love hard workers, more than,

924
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: skilled guys you know because they know what they gonna

925
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: get out of that guy. That's gonna, work hard you

926
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: know that guy, WHO just, is skilled i mean who

927
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: knows what type of effort he's gonna. Put forth out

928
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: there i'm the one that believed that anybody is capable

929
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: of as much as you believe that, you're capable of

930
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: it then you should be able. To go out there

931
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: and the, Complish, tell.

932
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 5: Me this like not a lot of people get a

933
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: chance to, Do what you've done like as far as

934
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 5: you kind of help build the whole, foundation of a

935
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 5: Franchise you, Know what i'm saying like When People think

936
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 5: of charlotte, hornets and that whatever the first rendition of.

937
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 5: You part, of it so like how does that feel

938
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 5: to know that you built? Part of that foundation, now

939
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 5: you live here you, see what's going, on how it's

940
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 5: grown how the city's grown, And everything like that Because you,

941
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: Know what i'm saying like you said You Got. Drafted

942
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 5: with scottie pippen oh's had been in existence, forever at

943
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 5: that Point you, Know what i'm saying like you got

944
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 5: a chance to like even know you say you was pissing,

945
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 5: me first found out, but like in hindsight you got

946
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 5: a chance to be a part of something that people

947
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 5: don't really get, a chance to do be a. Part

948
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 5: of the something and how does that like you, all

949
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 5: these years Later, still here in charlotte looking at everything

950
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 5: that's going on and you was a part.

951
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: Of the very, beginning it, Is well you.

952
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: Know charlotte's my home charlotte's my home Now. As well

953
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: as baltimore you're. Home Away from home but i'm invested

954
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: in this, COMMUNITY and you know i have a, foundation now,

955
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: that's providing you know opportunity for kids to go to

956
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: a trade school who have. That type of ambition were

957
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: tacking the food and securities. That's in, our community you

958
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: know we got sixteen percent Of Households our in Meciburg

959
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: county here and charlotte that face with. Those type, of

960
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: issues you know we try to provide workforce development. Education

961
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: Component as well so i'm trying to DO my part

962
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: because i have been given the opportunity to where the

963
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: folks supported me AND my family when i was, Here

964
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: DURING my time so i feel like it's my. Duty

965
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: to give back and still being part of This organization

966
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: with the hornets being, part of, the game you know

967
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: you're still relevant and you want to make, sure that you,

968
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: know these young guys young, kids that's come along that

969
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: they understand the importance of how. To be a professional.

970
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: And culture, is everything you know if you, got the

971
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: culture right, you know things similarly you know certain things

972
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: that you, can't get away with and because you're being.

973
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: Accountable For certain things and i'm just trying to help

974
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: THEM as much as i possibly can't do my part

975
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: and trying to let you know the, resources my you

976
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 2: know professionalism or whatever when, it can you know. Help

977
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: them move forward and so.

978
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: Bid how amazed and proud You Are to see steph

979
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: carey being a little kid, all on, the floor, ball

980
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: boy running around trying to play against you. And all

981
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: that stuff to see him be a superstar in this league,

982
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: and accomplished self too and accomplish what they accomplished in

983
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: this league, as a, family hold you know from the

984
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: dad to. The two younger sons how is it to

985
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: see him go to the highest level and.

986
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: Win and win championships.

987
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: I'm beyond, Proud, Of those guys seth Steph. As well,

988
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: as adele you know they they all grew. Up with,

989
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: my kids you know they. All GREW up Together and

990
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: i said steph early on, about a year ago a

991
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: little video of how small they were when we had

992
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: the clown guy came over and put the little, balloons

993
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: on THEIR head And then i had Dell dress up

994
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: As bonnie put the Bonnie suit on and steph but my. Daddy,

995
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: in that suit yea. They WERE so small but i

996
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: mean it's it's just a joy man to see their

997
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: dreams come true and watching them not, only as basketball player,

998
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: but as a father, as a you know and continue

999
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: to elevate. ALL those, around him i mean to be

1000
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: considered as the best shooter to. EVER laced IT up

1001
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: i mean i played. With, his daddy too now his

1002
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: daddy was a Shooting But nothing like stepan stephan. OFF the,

1003
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: dribble catch i mean his handles allowed him to do

1004
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: something many things with the. Basketball and create space so

1005
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: to see him being able to, be in that light

1006
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: it is. Mind boggling to. Me it really is to

1007
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: see how he's handled professionally and how he continued to

1008
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: keep raising the bar. And seth as well for him

1009
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: To be here, AND charlotte, with del i MEAN that

1010
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: is even i that, is even you know a, great

1011
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: treat within itself knowing that he's, calling his, son game.

1012
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: You KNOW right, Here so i mean i'm just thrilled to. Be,

1013
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: WITNESSING it all yeah.

1014
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 5: I gotta agree With YOU on, step like i know

1015
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 5: a couple guys is, real tight with him real. Good

1016
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 5: friends with him and the thing that impresses me the

1017
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 5: most is that's amazing of a, basketball playing how.

1018
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 3: Dope greatest shooting everything, He's a better.

1019
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: Dude oh my goodness and, that's what everybody says, so

1020
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 5: like for, me, like that's, Like yo that's crazy Like you,

1021
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: Know what i'm saying Like you, Know what i'm saying

1022
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 5: like to really be that like full, All the way

1023
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 5: around like shout.

1024
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: Out to the courage they Did a Good.

1025
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: Job sonya and dell they did an amazing. Job raising

1026
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: those skills which one? Is A better movie Space Jam one?

1027
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: Or space jam two you got. To ask me That

1028
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: you know. WHAT i'm Gonna, say, i want well look,

1029
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: we saved the Planet you, Know what i'm saying he

1030
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: saved the son. From THE digital World but i give

1031
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: lebron credit because it's to be up there and you

1032
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: know them cameras and how to deliver. That AND all

1033
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: that so i. Really GIVE them credit and i think

1034
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: we had a lot. More substance in ours.

1035
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: How was that? Experience for, you though you know you

1036
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 3: became A, movie star in.

1037
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 5: Hollywood, like you like kids.

1038
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: Everybody gonna see like how.

1039
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 5: WAS that whole situation i know you had the dome,

1040
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: where y'all, was hooping but like how was the whole

1041
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 5: acting of it and doing out the scenes.

1042
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: And, all of that man.

1043
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: We had a ball we was on set for about two.

1044
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: And a half weeks we was In of course. In

1045
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: HOLLYWOOD shooting it and i remember one morning we're supposed

1046
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: to HAVE. This shoot and lj he decided he wanted

1047
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: to get a haircut and he let the gentleman on,

1048
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: set Cut his hair a caucasian gentleman Who Never cut

1049
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: a african american. Hair before this life so you can

1050
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: imagine how, That, cut went right, remember so you imagine well.

1051
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: Just lost story ship we. Didn't shoot that morning they

1052
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: had to cut the shoot and rescheduled for later on

1053
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: that afternoon because they had to bring another barber in

1054
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: to tighten.

1055
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 4: Up his face.

1056
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: To get him right but we had so much fun.

1057
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: With him doing that but it was a great opportunity

1058
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: to be with. The guys on set and you mentioned

1059
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: the iconic basketball games that they had because they CREATED

1060
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: a jail for mj and and all the guys. Came

1061
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: over and, PLAY unfortunate for me I couldn't play because

1062
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: i had surgery right AFTER our season. And i couldn't

1063
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: walk but it, was, a fun time man it was,

1064
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: fun time on set playing cards up until. Three, in the.

1065
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: Morning yeah it.

1066
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 4: Was it was good what was your kids first? Reaction,

1067
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: to the movie.

1068
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: Well, believe it or not my kids were, young at,

1069
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: the TIME and uh when i brought HOME and, they saw,

1070
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: i mean of course they really thought that. They stole my,

1071
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: powers HE got no, but i told you you didn't see.

1072
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: Me touch the ball they gave. It back to, me

1073
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: so but yeah the kids in the neighborhood used to

1074
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: knock on my door to, say the, same thing mister

1075
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: musey you. Got. Your powers back yeah so it was

1076
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: fun and we had so. Much fun with. That that

1077
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: was great you never know that it was gonna be. Such, an,

1078
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: iconic movie.

1079
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah tell me this, you, you mentioned earlier like

1080
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 5: how was it the First Time you and spoiled web went?

1081
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: Up against each other.

1082
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: That was, My guy YOU know spud and I Played, against, Each, outhern,

1083
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: college right yeah yeah he Left for. After his juco

1084
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: year he came to a stage last, two and you know.

1085
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: OUR very, first game i mean because they was talking

1086
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 2: about this kid who can dunk and they was building

1087
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: us up, at the same Time, but always in Spud

1088
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: always respect the spud and, to this, day now you

1089
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: know were really very. Close to his, brothers but you

1090
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: know seeing a small guy that had different skill set,

1091
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: from then my elf but able to still impact the game.

1092
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: The way, he did You Know we had michael adams.

1093
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: At the Same Time you KNOW michael adams ye i

1094
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: was Like He.

1095
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 3: Was, At.

1096
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: Boston college yeah mike mike was something, special, back then

1097
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: too so but us three was coming up DURING the

1098
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: time when i was the. Youngest all of them but

1099
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: it was just great man knowing that it was guys

1100
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 2: that was considered small sub on Five to seven and mike,

1101
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: about five to ten but we was, the ones, that

1102
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: was you know being talked about as that small guard

1103
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: AND for he and i TO be IN the a,

1104
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: c c you know we're getting that attention night, in

1105
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: and night out and that was something good, for both,

1106
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: of us you know And that's why mis budd got his,

1107
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: opportunity to you know, he didn't get drafted but he

1108
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: got his opportunity to go to these camps and then

1109
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: when He got there with atlanta And HAVING that successful

1110
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: atlanta i, really knew the okay AND that was because i.

1111
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: WAS still in, COLLEGE i WAS like, I think, I can,

1112
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 2: i know, i could you know play on that next level.

1113
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: As a guy like you.

1114
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 5: Got all the, steals you, was like you say mugging

1115
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 5: people out.

1116
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: There on the court how? Was it for you how?

1117
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: Good did? It Feel the?

1118
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 5: Block pat ewing shot SORRY THAT'S. How sorry o g

1119
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: but you know you got, to ask the question how?

1120
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 5: Good did, that feel, it's like you know he's the

1121
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 5: dominant big man, and you the you.

1122
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: The smallest small man you.

1123
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: Went, and got that, yeah that's My guy the big pat.

1124
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: Doing the.

1125
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: RIGHT act that, happened, i told him well thank, you

1126
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: for you Know you're gonna make you're gonna be on,

1127
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: My high life him and of course, she laughed about

1128
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: it and uh but those YOU know here and i

1129
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: always kind of giggle about that little moment. About ME

1130
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: blocking it and i, told, you the, fade man you know.

1131
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: You know the fade. But him is old they went

1132
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: at it so much. Man and, THEM too you know

1133
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: i just love that competition between the two of them

1134
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: because it's on, and it's you know once they're off,

1135
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: the court, like brothers you know and that's what, you

1136
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 2: love about that the relationship.

1137
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: They, have your coaching then what Made you decide. That

1138
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: i'm a coach you coached IN THE w n b

1139
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: a and. You was high school what made you decide

1140
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: THAT this is something. I wanted to, PURSUE.

1141
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 2: At ONE point i thought i was going to probably

1142
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: STILL be coaching because I always felt like i was the.

1143
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: EXTENSION of a coach i WAS a coach. WHILE i

1144
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: was playing i saw the game from a different perspective,

1145
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: and from every angle how to, treat each individual differently

1146
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: how to, respond to them differently how you're able to,

1147
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: keep that chemistry, together that, come RHETORIC they camaraderie and,

1148
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: i always, FELT like you know i knew the EXCES

1149
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 2: and o's and i. Just loved the GAME and then

1150
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 2: when i had the opportunity to coach, THE high school

1151
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: kids i want to make sure they understood how to.

1152
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: Be a student athlete so giving them that perspective and

1153
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: how to conduct themselves on and off the, court in,

1154
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: THE classroom you KNOW i felt like i was. Meant

1155
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: to do that and then giving that opportunity again to

1156
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: coach THE, women the, w nba you know that was

1157
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: an eye opening within itself because they are true professionals

1158
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: and watching how they come, to conduct their, Work very

1159
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: very skilled, they very fundamentally sound and that's one of

1160
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: the things that the. Men shot away from they need

1161
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 2: to understand and take notes from the women because they're

1162
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 2: very fundamentally and. They're very athletic too.

1163
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 5: Do you like we say that and people laugh when

1164
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 5: we say that the women are more.

1165
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: Fundamentally. Sound, Than man, y'all, yeah, I'm like, no bro?

1166
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: Like?

1167
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: Serious, AIN'T it.

1168
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah i mean because when you got, after that,

1169
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: the building you know you tend to focus on that. And,

1170
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: That skip steps yeah so those are things that. Happen

1171
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: with the men.

1172
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 5: How god like for you to BE a, Former, w

1173
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 5: nba coach like how good is it to see what's.

1174
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: Going on in?

1175
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 5: The women's game now the growth, with the you know

1176
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 5: from the collegiate to the TO THE w n b

1177
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 5: a and the attention and, the and you know obviously

1178
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 5: it has a, long way to go but just, to

1179
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 5: just to start the eyes is, getting put, on it you,

1180
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 5: know the people viewing, and then you know obviously viewership gonna.

1181
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 5: Bring dollars and sponsors so how do you feel with

1182
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 5: the growth of the w and. The whole women's.

1183
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: Game i'm loving it i'm. Loving. It as well overdue

1184
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: so we have some bad. Women play, this game you

1185
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: know you Go, back From From, WOODED from, sheryl Miller

1186
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: I mean from naci lieberman to a lot more the

1187
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 2: whole cloths and. All those young ladies, but time has changed,

1188
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: the game has. Changed rules have changed people allowed to.

1189
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Play the game differently the emphasis of, the game is

1190
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: different the three, ball emphasis IS different which is deph

1191
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: has allowed. Now for whatever reason people consider that used to.

1192
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 2: Be a bad shot where coaches see a skill set

1193
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 2: in the player and see the consistency of that player,

1194
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 2: and allow that player not all that, player to you know.

1195
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: To play That game they. Encourage i'm telling you and

1196
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: you Got A player like kaitlyn, Clark and you know

1197
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 2: juju on, the on the, rise and you know the,

1198
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: girl page still there and then You got the successful

1199
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 2: Don Has, DONE in south CAROLINA i mean, the tv

1200
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: the games the eyeballs has now have been drawn to

1201
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: the game and that's going. To increase the attendance and,

1202
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: now with you know the league going IN with their

1203
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: new tv rights coming up with it can make of

1204
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: it a big push because you, got some angel reach

1205
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: you got some very prominent women that's coming to the.

1206
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: League because they know and, the thing, about it you

1207
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: know you used to be, known as a team but

1208
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: now you're. Getting known as players so when the tension

1209
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: to be known as players or players are, bigger than the,

1210
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: team then, that travels you know that becomes just like

1211
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 2: the men's game, now is you know. Just like, the

1212
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: players you know, they become you know recognizable and. Likable

1213
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: and very remarkable.

1214
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 4: You Came In.

1215
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: With with minoke bowl to See a guy like, winby

1216
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: be seven five seven, six out, there dribbling shooting threes.

1217
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: Doing what he's doing how? Is that to see because

1218
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: you Remember Coming. In with nooke bowl and now the

1219
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: game they evolved Where a guy like wemby is playing

1220
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: like he's playing a three.

1221
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 4: Or something like that and that.

1222
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: Goes from the yeah. Revolution of the game. The game

1223
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: has changed the skill set, of players have changed, as you,

1224
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: alluded to you. Know new out centers back then they

1225
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 2: played with their. Back towards the basketball these, centers are,

1226
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: facing up you know because of the way the game

1227
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: has evolved and the rules how they. Allow you to

1228
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: play but, also guys, are now you know they're just

1229
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: not looking. At a, certain position you know they LOOKING

1230
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: at how do i get better as a basketball player and,

1231
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: Thinking about you know winby is you Know He, was watching,

1232
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: kevin durant you know you Know Those guys and kevin,

1233
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: durant six, eleven himself you, know hand the ball. The

1234
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: way he handled so you got to love the. Beauty

1235
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: OF the game and i know a lot of, the old,

1236
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: school guys you know we kind of. Hop on certain

1237
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: things but the game. Is what, it is YOU. Know

1238
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: it's the tv it's for folks. That's home now WATCHING

1239
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: the only thing i wish we got back to a

1240
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: little more emphasis on the, defense part of it to

1241
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: where you give that player a little more fair chance

1242
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 2: to compete and get some of the some of these

1243
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: talent offers played that we.

1244
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: Have in.

1245
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: Our league start bench trade you gotta start one, bench one,

1246
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: Trade One, all right michael, Adams spud, web.

1247
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: Adual oh, man how Come on you're gonna you're gonna

1248
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: have me. Bench one, Of those come, ON oh my

1249
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: goodness i can't. BENCH none, of, those i mean okay

1250
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: we got, we got. My, spuds my man Now. So

1251
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: we got spud what What's the we Got, Mike's uh

1252
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: start okay I'm gonna start starting spud. Because that's all

1253
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: right i'll trade Uh uh we got we're. Gonna trade

1254
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: and bench you say? Bench trade and, start OH my

1255
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: goodness well i gotta go. With my Older cats You

1256
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: know i'm gonna i'm gonna. Go, Ahead and trade Damn

1257
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: i'm gonna, trade, Mike, And, BENCH right chris yeah i. Like.

1258
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: All three men man you gave me gave you gave

1259
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: me three. Of my favorite guys.

1260
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: Out of all the.

1261
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: Teams you played for if you had to pick a

1262
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: starting five including, you to play with out of all

1263
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: the teammates you EVER, had in the nba who would?

1264
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: Be that starting five who would be the other four

1265
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: guys to?

1266
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: You? Will play with ON all the?

1267
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: Players, i played with yeah all.

1268
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: The players you PLAYED, with in the nba if, YOU

1269
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: had to pick i got four guys to create. A, Five.

1270
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: With you okay can we have one guy to? Come off? The.

1271
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: BENCH you DEFINITELY okay I got i. Got, VINCENT'S my

1272
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: two okay i got. LJ as My three i got,

1273
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: oka AT my Four and i got. Zoe AT my

1274
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: Five and i got dell coming. Off the, Bench, shooting, Yeah.

1275
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: Anybody yeah yeah Toronto he went to toronto and you've

1276
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: seen it at An. Early age of Toronto but to see, Toronto,

1277
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: win a championship like did you ever think that that

1278
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: Would ever happen for toronto?

1279
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 3: To, win.

1280
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: THE championship NO Damn i left, t, mac out TOO Man.

1281
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: That Damn, T mac yeah Mac, I, GOT oh mac

1282
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: yeah i got Back in there, WITH oh my. GOODNESS

1283
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: i cannot be i. JUST thought About that. I. LEFT

1284
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 2: mac out mac i, got you, IN there baby boy.

1285
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: I got you IN?

1286
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 4: What Is?

1287
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: THIS u Vince? MAC l T alonzo I? Mean, l, j,

1288
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: alonzo yeah yeah, yeah, so you're putting yeah.

1289
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: Call the, Bench ship but no i've definitely. THAT'S to,

1290
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: YOUR question i mean i did, Not foresee that coming,

1291
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: raptors WINNING the championship but i was so thrilled when

1292
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: it happened because of the, guys that, Was There, you

1293
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: KNOW kyle lowry and i was very sad for tomorrow

1294
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: because the man have really set the set, the tone

1295
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: for that you Know when. They BROUGHT kawhi in but

1296
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: i UNDERSTOOD the situation and i Was just happy for,

1297
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: MASIH because You, know i know massa he did, a

1298
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: REALLY good job and i mean trying to put that

1299
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: thing together and, letting some tough. Making Some Tough decisions

1300
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: let dwayne casey go. And and so forth so. That's

1301
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: SOME tough decision but i was, thrilled to, see Them

1302
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: you know The, north with, the north you know celebrate and,

1303
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: have an opportunity experience you know. WHAT that's, all about

1304
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: i mean they. CELEBRATED to the fullests i could. Tell,

1305
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: you definitely did yeah you know, WHAT thing about, caravan, i,

1306
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: mean yeah yeah yeah you know.

1307
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 5: You.

1308
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: Gotta visit that, way by THE way just just i

1309
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: ain't never had A. Bad Trip, to toronto in toronto did? You,

1310
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: CHANGE your money.

1311
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: No I did not. When I was there what I Did.

1312
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: BANK with nova scotia i, Did bank with THEM but

1313
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: the way i was, ABLE to do it i was

1314
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: able to transfer it over to My. Bank, in, the

1315
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: STATES okay yeah so i was able to. DO it

1316
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 2: that way i didn't. KEEP nothing up there i just

1317
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: had a little small account. That sort of thing could.

1318
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: Always kept my stuff this.

1319
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 3: Is a web gm that you, probably don't even know the.

1320
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: WORLD don't really know.

1321
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 5: I was a raptor WELL for five. SECONDS i was

1322
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 5: listen i Got checks for the raptors. FOR a whole

1323
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 5: year i was in. The throw in trade this. IS

1324
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 5: a true, story, i was blessed y'all. End of the

1325
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 5: sea this was like, end of my. CAREER my last

1326
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 5: season i Got cut by the magic. Beginning of the

1327
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: year after training camp set, Out the old season nicks

1328
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 5: go get. The number one Seed, That this was Tyson,

1329
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 5: jkid and mellow swish, All of them right so They

1330
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 5: signed me And earl barn on april fourteen team for

1331
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 5: the last. Game Of the season so i'm. On the

1332
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 5: roster right so fast forward to that they get Put

1333
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 5: out by the pacers. Or whatever second round fast. FORWARD

1334
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 5: after the season i don't even know, how this stuff

1335
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 5: worked but whatever for them to, get their books right

1336
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 5: they was. They had they was this is when, they

1337
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 5: did the trade when they Moved When they Got. Barnyanni

1338
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 5: barnyanni from toronto when, they did that deal they needed

1339
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 5: somebody to.

1340
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: THROW in the deal.

1341
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: I got.

1342
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 3: Thrown in the deal they signed.

1343
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 5: ME to a minimum i got a one year minimum

1344
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 5: just to. GO in the deal i ain't never had.

1345
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 5: TO say Foot There i got maple league. Pay stack check.

1346
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 5: Stuff the whole year That's who like the raptors Get

1347
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 5: Paid from the maple league people whatever they are the.

1348
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 5: Same owners or WHATEVER so like ro i got that.

1349
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 5: Joint the Whole year like when jeff, first called my

1350
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 5: agent first call and.

1351
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 3: HE said Something. ABOUT i, said, toronto i, said, well,

1352
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: he said hey hey just listen to just, listen to and.

1353
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: Man you. GOTTA talking, I'm sitting i said i'm about

1354
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: To Get.

1355
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 5: To keep van horn I'M about to get i know it,

1356
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 5: ain't The big deal but i'm about to get To

1357
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 5: keep keep man horn got the big one when he

1358
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 5: got thrown in the deal WITH some big whole i.

1359
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 3: WAS over There deal. I can't i'm REAL i won't

1360
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 3: say i. DID like a flip i wouldn't jumped in.

1361
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 3: The pool or something. That's a true story you go

1362
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 3: look it up in the. HISTORY of that deal i

1363
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 3: was In the deal.

1364
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 5: For brinihanni, OR whoever and like i ain't, NEVER had

1365
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 5: to go i ain't Had to show the toronto or

1366
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 5: nothing LIKE that was like i was.

1367
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: DONE by that point i ain't get signed FOR nobody

1368
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: Else's ninety i was.

1369
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 4: Toronto as a.

1370
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: City oh my goodness it, Was, a Hitting gym yeah

1371
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 2: because i've, Been. To you know charlotte then had The

1372
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: Opportunity playing in san Francisco, and up In. Oakland but

1373
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: visit toronto but we Didn't know MUCH about toronto until

1374
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: I mean Actually till i got that's a, very pretty,

1375
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: clean city very diverse. So much to offer it was

1376
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 2: really a Joy to play in toronto because. The, fans

1377
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: was unbelievable well they, will support your team and they

1378
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 2: support us on. THE day, to day i mean Of

1379
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: course We had vincent t macda at the. Same time

1380
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: as well, now it don't matter but they're very low

1381
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,959
Speaker 2: to that SPORT and they very i think they become

1382
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: very knowledge. About.

1383
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 5: THE game too bro I told you WHEN i played When,

1384
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 5: I Worked for detroit detroit pistons Home games Versus the

1385
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 5: raptors were raptors home games because.

1386
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: That little right across like they will come there and It'll.

1387
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: BE weed the north i.

1388
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 5: USED to hate it I come to like i never

1389
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 5: knew this BECAUSE you obviously until i. WENT there to

1390
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 5: WORK i was like i HAD a truth when I.

1391
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 5: WAS working with if i used to hate our home games,

1392
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 5: against to be like w?

1393
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: Is it like This like it is it's like five To.

1394
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 5: One in Here, raptors fans to pistons it was and

1395
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 5: it was they doing they chance.

1396
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 4: Like.

1397
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: They at, home bro yeah No like all raptors jersey's.

1398
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: All over the.

1399
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 5: PLACE it was, crazy, i Was like noa the raptors

1400
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 5: ain't dan't fucking.

1401
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: They.

1402
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 3: Got, some fans BOY yeah this question, i.

1403
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 5: LIKE to, ask man, i know you know we all

1404
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 5: took care of moms and pops them and we. Got

1405
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 5: A little change And i Probably will what did muggsy

1406
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 5: do to flash and splurs on yourself when you got

1407
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 5: a little?

1408
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: Change in your pocket you know what you do coming?

1409
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 3: Out of be? More what?

1410
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: Be?

1411
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 3: More muggsy did.

1412
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: Well the, first thing of course, FIRST thing out there.

1413
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: I built my mom.

1414
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: I built the house AND then after how i built,

1415
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: MY mom her house i went a course and got

1416
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: me one Of them five, Sixty mercedes, too soon, yeah

1417
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

1418
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Five sixty ship yeah what Color Was?

1419
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: There in midnight blue it was nineteen, Eighty, nineteen eighty

1420
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: eight well actually, it was, eighty seven eighty seven sixty

1421
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 2: five sixty Eighty. Seven with The sheepskins that's when. Sheepskins

1422
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: Was up there the sheepskins sea covered seacover with little. Emblem,

1423
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: on the back Yeah that was back that's how we.

1424
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 3: Let's how You. Do it in baltimore that's how we. Did.

1425
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: It back then man we.

1426
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 3: Won't. Wrap that up.

1427
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 4: Man.

1428
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 5: We appreciate you, man, this is legendary man somebody. We

1429
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 5: grew up watching we all all love And, a praise,

1430
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 5: rate man The Legendary the iconic muggsy.

1431
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: BOGUES in the building.

1432
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: I truly appreciate you. Guys having me man chatting up

1433
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: with you. GUYS was a joy i wish. You guys

1434
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: much success continue to, keep doing.

1435
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 4: Your thing.

1436
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,840
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1437
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,480
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