1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris john Silli and Chritis 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: entertainment in a straight Now here's Chris Johnson. You're now 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: tuned them to kJ B Live. Today's guest on the 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: show as a retired NBA veteran, a former U s 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: A brow who led the nation in food goal percentage 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: two years in a row. This kid is from You're 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: Not a Kid Anymore, San Diego, California, and was recently 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: named to the team over a showtime Basketball. I'm gonna 10 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: talk to him today about his transition into the world 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: of digital media, content creation, and filmmaking. Retired NBA player 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Gelottie McCoy is in the building. What's up, big Line. Yeah, 13 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: we're live again, back on kJ Live. We live, Yeah, 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: I live right, We live anyway, whether it's live or not, 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: we live anyway. We're always live. Line. You know this. 16 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: You were You've been with me since the inception of 17 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: kJ Live several months ago. One of my very first interviews. 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: You're very much responsible for helping getting me comfortable and 19 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: on the ones and twos and in front of this 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: thing right here. My man and I always appreciate you, 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: and I always love your introspection and the thoughtfulness and 22 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: mindfulness of the way that you go about your business 23 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: and thought process. But I wanted to talk to you, 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: my brother, because man, you're doing some real nice stuff, 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: stuff that I didn't even see coming. I was just 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: with you a couple of weeks ago for a dog 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: conference in San Diego. You didn't even tell me you 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: get me, No yet you get you did not let 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: the cat out the bag. But talk a little bit 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: about the new position you were recently named with Showtime Basketball. 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't you know I always keep your 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: cat in the back. You know, I'm I'm likely you 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: know I'd like to move around in the Star Wars 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: secrecy and just do things. But um, after like a 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: year long walking interview and you know what I mean, 36 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: some sacrificing and some you know, some long nights, I 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: was able to agree to take a deal with Showtime 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: as a concurrent content creator excuse me, producer across all 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: the Smoke and all Showtime Basketball. So I mean, it's 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: been a long time in the making. I've always been 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: a fan of Showtime since soft porn when I was 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: in in my my parents house. So you said soft porn, 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: sopho wow wow, wow was known for softporn. I mean, 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: but they've been doing a good job. They've been doing 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: a good job on I'm telling athletes stories. You know, 46 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: the uh, the the Alan Iverson doc, the Kobe doc, 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: the DeMarcus Cousins doc. Um, there's so many other ones 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: outside the basketball that you know they do a good 49 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: job on. So Um, opportunity came upon my desk, and 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, uh, thanks to Matt and Stephen for trust 51 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: in me and for pushing me to be a part 52 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: of the team. We was able to make it come true. 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: And what do you think it takes for a guy 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: like yourself and retired NBA player that necessarily might have 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: had the mind and the thirst and the one didn't 56 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: necessarily have the experience in this industry? What did it 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: take for you to get up to speed and to 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: be and to excel in this field? Um? Vulnerability, you 59 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And and and just surrendering into 60 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: the moment and realizing that I'm not an authority, you 61 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Just like when we used to 62 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: hoop when we was kid. You know, I just threw 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: myself in it. You know what I mean. I just 64 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: study everything. I've watched things. I know, the things that 65 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: I liked, the style that I like. I started getting 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: locked in the room and editors, learning about you know, 67 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: transitions and you know what I mean, all the all 68 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: the filmmaking. You know what I mean, words that you're 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna need to you know, I succeeded and I just 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: started learning. And I've only ever cared about doing this 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: ever since I made it decaision to do this instead 72 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: of coaching. So every day, every day since then, it's 73 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: been something advocated to making myself better and and you know, 74 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: as a producer, as a filmmaker, as being in front 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: of the camera, you know what I mean, helping you out, 76 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: helping the fan out. We all got these outstanding voices 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: that I feel like need to be heard, and now 78 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: is a good time. So I've just been arming myself 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: up and you know, being able to help you, help Mad, 80 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: help Steven because we do a lot of stuff with 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: the AI Classic. Um. So I've just been able to 82 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: help people, and I think that's the most thing I 83 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: get off of. I've armed myself and learned so much 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: that I'm able to help my friends and be being 85 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: able to be of value. So you know the people 86 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: that look like us and my friends that I want 87 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: to want to be in this industry. No, absolutely, but 88 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: touching on helping and mentoring. Um, I remember when I 89 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: first tried to get into the kind of the TV game, 90 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: and you know I had I did a bunch of 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: stuff back in the day. But when I first broke in, 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: I got an internship sort of an apprenticeship with a 93 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: producer over NBC Universe guy back named Dan Hicks. He 94 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: kind of showed me the ropes. He got me comfortable 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: in front of the camera doing stand ups, sitting in 96 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: the studio. I mean he literally really just walked me through. 97 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: We did a whole pilot that we pitched the USA Network. 98 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: It was a whole situation that what was going on. 99 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: But I can't thank him enough for the information and 100 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: the knowledge he had parted upon me. I guess I 101 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: want to know from you, did you have a mentor 102 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: in this game? Is there somebody that that helped you 103 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: show the ropes? Did you crowdsource this this knowledge that 104 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: you that you get. I wanted a particular niece vibe, 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: so I kind of a good good word too. Luck 106 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: so I think I did crowdsource. You know Josh Secuma, 107 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: our humble are, our honey, who we've worked a lot with, 108 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, filmmaker, music video directors, mini 109 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: doc you know Josh can't do anything, you know what 110 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean. So I've been able to lean on Josh, 111 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: Eric Newman at Shell Time, Brian Daly at shell Time, 112 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: and ship even Matt Barnes at at the point, now 113 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: we gotta start giving Matt Barnes a flower and start 114 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: with um recognizing him as a producer. He's not just 115 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: a talent because he really works behind the scenes on 116 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: his podcast, from segments to what he wants to look 117 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: like across socials. So I learned from Matt, you know 118 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, yourself, you know what I mean. And 119 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: a handful of people that I know trust, Um, rob 120 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: On just Rob Archie, you know what I mean. On 121 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: just being you know, myself and being comfortable being myself 122 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: and I want my voice to be heard. So just 123 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: a handful of people that I really cared about and 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: that I trusted. So I probably crowdsourceded as as opposed 125 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: to the other way. When you look at this NBA 126 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame class that just got inducted. There's a 127 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: lot of guys do from our error. Man, Um, do 128 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: you feel old at all that these guys we competed 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: against in the Hall of Fame or or do you 130 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: view them as you know, contemporaries that made it. I 131 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: don't feel old, man, I feel proud. I feel used 132 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: to feel salty, and that's you know what I mean. 133 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: I used to feel salty because you know, I didn't 134 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: fee of my career based on the talent that I 135 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: knew I had in my heart. You know, went went 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: as it should have. But I wouldn't trade it for 137 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: the world because it's brought me to the place that 138 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: I am now. But I'm so proud man of people. 139 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, people in our class around our area to 140 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: go to the Hall of Fame or you know even 141 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: have been able to provide themselves. You know, their families 142 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: with a ton of money and you know what me 143 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: change their whole family experience. So I moved from you 144 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean salty to uh to you know 145 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: what I mean, like the you know, admiring contemporaries, just 146 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: being so proud I think as in our community as 147 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: a Black community and in the small group of we 148 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: as black athletes, Africana, Marian the athletes, whichever one you 149 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: want to use. We don't give each other our flowers. 150 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's about time that, you know, we 151 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: get off you know, the older generation and start concentrating 152 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: on building ourselves up because a lot of some of 153 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: us still have a still have a lot to offer 154 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: to the newer generation. They're searching, you know what I mean, 155 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: for newer ways or newer voices and different you know, 156 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: different ways to explain things. So I think that's why 157 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: that's what we hold in common, Christine Johnson and Gelani 158 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: McCoy and I just want to just move into a 159 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: arrangement where we can help each other, you know what 160 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, and to continue to voice our parents and 161 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: these younger generations opinions. But why do you think there's 162 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: such a big disconnect at times between the older generation 163 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: and the younger generation. And I'm not just talking about 164 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, hoop and all that. It's it's across the board, 165 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: it's fast, it's the way people dress, it's the way 166 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: people talk, it's this is that, it's this is that. 167 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: Why do you think there's such a big disconnect? I mean, 168 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: we've seen some of the older guys like Alan Iverson 169 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: who really embraced the younger generation in basketball, and the 170 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: younger generation has embraced him back. Why do you think though, 171 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: that there's this you know, this gap between the two generations. 172 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: This ship got boogie somehow, you know what I mean? 173 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: After Ai and Chuck and Kevin Gardner set the blueprint 174 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: of hard work, and you know what comes from the 175 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: hard work. This generation, you know, and some of the 176 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: even some of the old middle in between whatever this 177 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: generation was, we forgot about what the hard work was 178 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: and we just went with the goods and glamor from 179 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: social media and the cap you know what I mean. 180 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: We lost everything in between the start and the finish. 181 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: So you know, it's fake it till you make it 182 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: times a hundred right now, and we just lost you know, 183 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the story is in the in the journey, and you 184 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean, the things that you go through. 185 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: So nobody interested interested in the journey. If you're watching 186 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: movies and ship right now, everything is instanted, instantly evacuation 187 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: if it's a bunch of noise on top of one. 188 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: So right now we just lost a part of the 189 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: story being in the hard work. We talk about Mamba 190 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: mentality and all that good ship, but we're really not 191 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: listening to what cove he was talking about because to me, 192 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: those stories and the journey and the transference and the 193 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: climb happens in the in the work, and we're just 194 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: ignoring the work now and using memes and quotes and 195 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: ship from other people that are busy doing work at 196 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day. So I feel once we 197 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: can bridge that gap of the cap and the quote, 198 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: get back to action, you know what I mean, less 199 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: ego and more so, I think we'll all be better 200 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: off bridge that gap of the cap and the quotes. 201 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Les did man, you sound like Gil Scott heron around 202 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: this piece. Hey, the revolution will not be televised. But 203 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: but lin Um I recently had the opportunity to interview 204 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: uh w NBA legend a lot of beard. She's heading up. 205 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: She's heading up the group right. She's partnered with the 206 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: African American Sports and Entertainment group based out of Oakland, 207 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: and they're trying to bring a w NBA franchise to 208 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: the city of Falkland. Now, you are a lot of 209 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: people don't know this, but you were born in open 210 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: correct Yeah, you were born in open so as somebody 211 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: who was born in that city, what are your thoughts 212 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: on a w NBA franchise, the prospects of a black 213 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: owned mind you owned w n B tries in the city, 214 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: you think the city would get behind something like that. 215 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they better. It's such a townish thing to do, 216 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, right, you know what I mean, just 217 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: too because there's a need for it. Now, what better 218 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: way than a w NBA player, you know what I mean, 219 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: and assist, sorry, you know what I mean, to come 220 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: back in there and represent the town and start bringing 221 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: some vitality to the town because they're trying to start 222 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: the life out of the town right now. You know, 223 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: the AI's are in this situation, the Raiders getting out 224 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: of there, the Warriors jump ship to San Francisco. So 225 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: I know she's in touch with a lot of people 226 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: in that tech space, in that take area that can 227 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: make a dream like this happening. I think Oakland and 228 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: everybody else should support her and do what they can 229 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: do to bring that franchise to Oakland because I think 230 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: it's a good marriage. I think it's something that Oakland 231 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: can get behind. And uh and I think everybody wins 232 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: across the board because they can't. Something like that couldn't 233 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: happen in a better situation, situation on her city than Oakland, California. 234 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: And my opinion, so I'm proud of her. Prats off 235 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: to that team, and I hope everything yields and that 236 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: the team. The group has some pretty ambition ambitious aspirations. 237 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: They want to own a black owned NFL team, a 238 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: new stadium and convention center. They want to do Black 239 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: Wall Street Part two, the w NBA franchise. Then they 240 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: want to put up a Hall of Fame and an 241 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: academic center all in the city. So they have big 242 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: dreams and aspirations and uh and I think they have 243 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: the means to achieve all these dreams, man. So I'm 244 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: excited to see what happens with that. That's it's one 245 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: of the most exciting pieces of news that I've heard 246 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: in a long time, especially for the African American community. UM, 247 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: I have to agree with you. The Oaktown all comes 248 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: down the capital though, you know what I mean what 249 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: you said, Yeah, you know what I mean. She knows 250 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: what she knows what she had to do the probably 251 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: before she even stepped to the table. So I'm pretty 252 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: sure she did her homework. I appreciate you send to 253 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: me the article and uh and and the link on 254 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, on her, on her being 255 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: a guest, on yourself, because I feel like she came 256 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: to the table knowing that capital was gonna be a 257 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: big part component and bringing this project. And she sounds 258 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: like she had her isch together when she stepped to 259 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: the table in the first place. So my hat goes 260 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: off to her, and we need to figure out whatever 261 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: we can do, you know, to help her out if 262 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: she needs it. It It don't sound like she needs us, 263 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: but if she do, you know, we can help her. Yeah, 264 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: I said the same I said the same thing at 265 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: the end of the call yesterday. I said anything I 266 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: could do. I don't know if there's anything I could do, 267 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: but whatever I could do, whatever, Yeah, absolutely, please let 268 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: me know. The Vice mayor is a really big proponent 269 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: of the City of Open She's a she's a big 270 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: proponent of this entire project. I heard her speak in 271 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: depth about it. So it's a really exciting thing that's 272 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: coming along. Absolutely, And we just did some stuff with 273 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Barbara Lee out there. Uh, you know what her documentary 274 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: was came out on Stars a couple of months, so 275 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: Ray was out there doing a bunch of film work 276 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: and helping with the premier. So um, I saw that. 277 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, the town is always gonna be in 278 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: our heart, you know what I mean. I'm a big 279 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: a san I'm a forty Er fan, but I'm an 280 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: Ace fan, like I spent a lot of time up 281 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: in Oakland, So it's always gonna be near and dear 282 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: to my heart. So we're always gonna represent the town 283 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: for shelf Show. Jumping back to the Allen Iverson documentary. 284 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: You you're a producer on that. Talk about a little 285 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: bit about that project, what it was like working with 286 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Alan Bubba Chuck, and what should we expect to see 287 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: in this mini Dot Man, this mini Dots, you know 288 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. We left a lot of blood, sweat 289 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: and tears, you know what I mean, and in the 290 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: in the cutting room and in there in the process 291 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: bringing us together because it was the only All American 292 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: game during the pandemic. McDonald's and everything else was shut down, 293 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: so you know, they had chat Home Graham, Polo Banchetto, 294 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Peyton Watson, Raven Johnson, the first female to play in 295 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: All American Game was present um coached by Stephen Jackson, 296 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Rashid Waller's Bonzi Will So Darius Miles was a part 297 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: of the project along with AIS Team, Jian Mindzette, them 298 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: Bobby Beats. So um it was it was just an 299 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to go and do something for Chuck, you know 300 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: what I mean. Chuck is a part of what I 301 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: like to call the Showtime Universe. It's kind of like 302 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: a Marvel universe where you'll see documentaries and many documentaries 303 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: and podcasts and other episodic things for different players on 304 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: the Showtime platform. So it was just an opportunity. And 305 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: I met Chuck in ninety three at the McDonald the 306 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: Nike All American Camp, so we obviously hit it off. 307 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: Then I played from played with him at Denver and 308 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: against him for a couple of years in the NBA. 309 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: So I'm a big Allen Iverson fan. You know that 310 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: we were to Allen Iverson's during the Dude Game the 311 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: first at the first Aies from Reebox. So anytime I 312 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: could help one of the former players, a Hall of 313 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Famer that I played with, that I played against, that 314 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: I was a teammate up, I'm all on board, and 315 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: I take my job very seriously, so I'm trying to 316 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: paint there our our our heroes and the best light, 317 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: you know what i mean, always with love and light, 318 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: not a lot of negative. I'm very protective of their 319 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: transparency and it was just an opportunity to go down there. 320 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: Have took my business partner and U c l A 321 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: alumni Read Young down there and helped produce. Uh. It 322 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: turned out really well, so you should expect to see 323 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: bondsy Wales and Rashi received Wallace in a different light. 324 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: And I'm really proud of the way Steven Jackson is 325 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: standing on his own on this one. You know, a 326 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: lot of people know him as the co host on 327 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: All the Smoke, but again Stack has another universe under 328 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: the Showtime Basketball that's also going to highlight his talent. 329 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: So it was awesome. It was a learning experience, and 330 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: it was during the pandemic, so it was a lot 331 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: of you know, pandemics going on and stuff you have 332 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: to work. But but it came out and I'm glad 333 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: it worked up well well. If you could pinpoint during 334 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: that that that process of filming something that happened that 335 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: was just crazy or that you know, it was a 336 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: little bit off kilter. That threw you off a little bit. 337 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: They you have an expenses like that, or didn't go 338 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: pretty smooth the entire way. Man. You know, we're trained 339 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: for everything. Luck, we've seen everything. We've been pretty busy 340 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: for the fast five years, you know what I mean, 341 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: for maybe up to you know, three minutes before a 342 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: live show happens, and we scrapped, still scrambled and trying 343 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: to get assets ready for a live stream or a 344 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: live show up in San Francisco. So we pretty much 345 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: expect everything. I explained it expected alien to pop out 346 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: of somebody's head and like keep it cool, you know 347 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I've just trained. That's why I 348 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: keep myself in shape, you know what I mean. I 349 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: try to, you know, get a good diet, try to 350 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: get a couple of good nights sleep, because I just 351 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: tried to be prepared for anything. But I think the 352 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: dopest thing that happened was when we were shooting. This 353 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: was in the Jack Stephen with Jackson was in the 354 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: middle of Ramadon or his first fast, you know what 355 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: I mean. Ever, he never fastted his life, and he 356 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: had to. You know, I'm producing and working on cameras 357 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: and working with cameraman and whatnot. And he was the 358 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: coach and he asked me to coach for him while 359 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: he put while he prayed. So in the middle of 360 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: the All American Game, I had to go from producers 361 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: slash director, slash, security, slash you know what I mean, cameraman, 362 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: slash whatever it is, to coach. And it was and 363 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: on the bench with some heaters. You know what I mean, 364 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: Dude is going to Gonzaga, you know what I mean. 365 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: You know where chatting Polo going. You know what I mean. 366 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: This is a big time. They're They're high on the 367 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: NBA radar Top one, top one, Yeah, six. Couple of 368 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: these guys are six to eight months removed from going 369 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: to the league. So just being in that full circle 370 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: again while I was, you know, transition on the other 371 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: side of my life, you know what I mean, just 372 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: reaching back in that moment to just understand that, you know, 373 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: basketball is always gonna be a conduit as to you 374 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: know what I mean, grace for me and that that 375 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: was one of my prouder moments and for him to 376 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: trust me and for him to trust me like that, 377 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: because during that weekend, a couple of days is when 378 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: me and Jack formed a bond, you know what I mean. 379 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: That led to me probably getting this relationship so super 380 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: proud of it. Dope, that's dope. Yeah. I had similar, 381 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: well not similar experiences, but I experienced the prayer during 382 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: the game thing when I played in Quitar If we 383 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: had a game, right and then coincided with the time 384 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: that they called it Sunday, I believe, and then so 385 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: we stopped the game. Chris go over to the bench. 386 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: We have to pray. The whole everybody has a Muslim. 387 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: They pointed towards Mecca, and then they would get down 388 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: on the floor during the game and start praying. And 389 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: at first I was kind of tripped out, but then 390 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I got used to it, and 391 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: then I was respect I started to respect the process. 392 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: I think I dribbled a ball one time and everybody 393 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: looked at me. I was like, oh, shoot, this is 394 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: not the business. Hey, I did the same thing and 395 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: um in the Milwaukee books practice one time, dude with 396 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: Nellie and I dribbled the ball. He looked it was 397 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: there in the middle of the thing. He looked over, 398 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: he glared at me. Pick up that ball. He said. 399 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like ten years old, bro getting 400 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: yo that by Nellie Bro. I was like, lessing, we 401 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: just went off the rails. But no, but that that's 402 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: that sounds like that sounds like a really fun thing. Man. 403 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: You So you're it's an amazing it wasn't interesting too. 404 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: And this is a kind of an in the weeds 405 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: type of question for you line. So that weekend right, 406 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: I was in Classic You're you're behind the camera, so 407 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: you're looking at the kids doing different lens right, because 408 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: you're setting up shots and you're you know, storylines, et cetera. 409 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: Now when you were called into coaching, now you have 410 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: to put on another you gotta take that lens off 411 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: and put on the Hooper lends. You're a baller, I'm coach. 412 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: I look at you for your your strength deficiencies. How 413 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: we gonna get you off in basketball? Standpoint? How? How? 414 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: How did that Was that an easy transition to do? 415 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: Did you or did you feel like you had an 416 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: advantage because you were so like you have been basically 417 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: studying these guys, they were subjects of film. I went, 418 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: I went weirdo. You know, I just right over in 419 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: the weirdo because I was looking at them through viewfinders 420 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: and look at them through such a particular lens. Yeah, 421 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And they seen me like 422 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't there just you know, holding or you know, 423 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: a point to I was clapping and ship you know 424 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. I was. I was in it. You know, 425 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: we get we get in the gym, and it's the 426 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: energy in there is palpable. So I was gonna do yeah, yeah, yeah, 427 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, geeking them up on dunks, 428 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Jumped in and out of 429 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: a couple of drills. So it was kind of easy. 430 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't think I ever want to 431 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: lose that feeling of being able to just instantly jump 432 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: into a coach or you know what I mean, instant 433 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: hooper situation and you hit it right on the head. 434 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: I think because I was so hyper focused on their 435 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: making them look like heroes, you know what I mean 436 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, that just carried over 437 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: instantly when I had to coach for that couple of minutes. Now, 438 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: that's pretty dope. That's the first thing that sort of 439 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: came in my mind was how you you operated with them. 440 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: It took me back to when we coached together with 441 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: the Double Pump Organism back in two thousand and fifteen, 442 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: which was, you know, one of the fun the most 443 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: enjoyable summers that I've had me you Ryan Forehand, Kelly 444 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: who was currently assistant for the Brooklyn Nets. We were 445 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: holding it down. I don't know if you remember that, 446 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: but Line, I don't know if you remember this in Vegas, 447 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: but the day when we played that Dan Lillard Adida's team, 448 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: we were up twelve. They came back and beat us. 449 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Do you remember Mitchell Robinson, the big, tall, wide showder. 450 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson who plays for the Knicks. He was playing 451 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: before them. So when we walked in, because you know, 452 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: we got to the game earlier, so when we walked in, 453 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: we saw that, we saw this big footer and we 454 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: were just like, who is this big why show dog? 455 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, but that was Mitchell Robinson. 456 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: Bro Line, when you think back to that, when you 457 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: think back to that summer, Man, and we we went 458 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: head up with some big time programs. Man, what was 459 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: the what what stood out the most of two thousand 460 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: and fifteen and our only coaching experience together. What you 461 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: think my favorite MoMA is when the when the dad 462 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: had his fingers to the fence. I forgot where it 463 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: was American American Sports Center, the nets, the net, yes, 464 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: they got the nets behind us. The dad has got 465 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: got his fingers through the nets. You know what I mean? 466 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: O Ship, Oh my god, we let that one go, 467 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know what I mean? 468 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: We let that one go. We stayed coach, and then 469 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: another one came another end, so they all stop had 470 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: just talking and Ship with his fingers through the through 471 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: the that My favorite moment was when we looked over 472 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: there in Unison and told him to goat it was beautiful. 473 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: Nobody no cue. There wasn't even a verbo. Cue is 474 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: like literally, you know what I mean? One too? After 475 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: the third one, it was like, it's all, it's all now, 476 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: you know what. I remember one of the pumps. I 477 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: remember he was like, you're trying to stick up for yourself. 478 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: And then one of the pumps came over there, and 479 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: why you do the run? I felt it. I felt 480 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: that he was already seem like what's going on? You 481 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: know they were he would definitely weren't gonna let nothing happen. 482 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sorry, guy. That's our guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 483 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: that But he was like, what's going on there? You 484 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We was like, are you still 485 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: going on? You know, we we were. It was just 486 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: a funny situation, you know, as the language. But you 487 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's what it was. That was 488 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: my That and beating the balls and getting into it, 489 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: but getting the stair down from Mama Ball post game 490 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: West game, so I was gonna talk about that. So 491 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: so I think it was a foul call. So we're 492 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: playing against the Balls, the ball brothers. Uh, you know, LaVar. 493 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: Everybody's their team, the rookie of the year, the rookie 494 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: of the year, the mellow. So we're playing against the 495 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: ball Brothers. And you know, it's a big it's a 496 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: great game. It's it's spirited. Everybody's watching our game. It's 497 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: probably one of the most turned up basketball situations I've been. 498 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: It was there on the side. It was sick. Yeah, 499 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: it was sick, dude. It was sick. Everybody was in 500 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: the building watching this game. But but I think what 501 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: stood out for me, I think I complained about a 502 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: foul call or I said something to the effect of, 503 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, to the ref right, I'm talking to the 504 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: ref man called the file man. What the hell? Yeah? 505 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: I look over sort of towards LaVar and then Tina 506 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: stands up. She has her hands on her hip. She 507 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: she had been staring at me for like five minutes. 508 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: She was looking at me, staring at it like it wasn't. 509 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: She was like, they ain't. No God found could be. 510 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: And I tell you, and if you could see my face, 511 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: I looked at I looked at LaVar. I looked. I 512 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: looked at LaVar and I just started smiling. To put 513 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: my hand down, I'm like, oh, like, I'm sorry because 514 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: I have you know me, I have uproas respect for LaVar. 515 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: But that showed me. That showed me something amazing, and 516 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: that Mama Ball was willing to call would come at 517 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: me like that. What are you talk about though, the 518 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: Ball Brothers this year? I don't know, if you've got 519 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: a chance to check them out. The rebirth of a 520 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: Lonzo and and Mellow have have reinvigorated both of those franchises. 521 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: They're both looking like they're gonna make the playoffs. Just 522 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Ball Brothers. I mean, 523 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: it's time, you know what, what I don't know if 524 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: it's manifestation or whatever it is. But a Lonzo, uh, 525 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Pop's got to be looking like a genius 526 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: right now, you know what I mean? All this stuff that, 527 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: I think it was a lot on their play. But 528 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: one thing we always said is that they was good, 529 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We didn't know if they 530 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: was gonna burn out and it was gonna be too much. 531 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: But you know, with the basketball, park was good. We 532 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: wasn't worried about the jam shot and things that the 533 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: pundits and the people talk about, how you got to 534 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: get his shot pocket together. He was still busting everybody's 535 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: ass on the n C double A level all throughout 536 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: high school and he's continue to do it as a pro. 537 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: Now as a pro, obviously you're gonna refine your mechanics 538 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: and it's gonna look even better Twitter. But I think 539 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: we predicted this, you know what I mean. We knew 540 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: a Lonzo was gonna be what he was, and we 541 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: knew LaMelo was a basketball survived and then he put 542 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: the you know, the gross fur on the top of it. 543 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: And watching what Big Bro had to go through and 544 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: the and the other one going through what he did 545 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: at U C. L A and how he's trying to 546 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: find his way. I think it's a perfect shield that 547 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: Ball family crest. I think it's amazing the cloth that 548 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Moms is cut from, even the cloth that Pops was 549 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: cut from. Although it wasn't you know what I mean, 550 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: the vehicle weren't necessarily want to see it was the 551 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: one that worked. That ship is working, you know, I mean, 552 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: he got his baby boys cracking, you know what I mean? 553 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: There is able to provide, you know, a good life 554 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: for their family, to take care of their mom and 555 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: dad and a big ball uh advocate as to where 556 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: sometimes I used to be like, h you know what 557 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Pops is a lie and sometimes he was bussing, 558 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: but he was able to cook get all up, you 559 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It really makes something special and 560 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't be it couldn't happen. And they're good kids. Yeah, 561 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: they're cool. They're cool kids. Man. They're really just about 562 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: their hooping, their parents and their fans. So you know 563 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: what I mean. The Pioneers Transsectors you work for the 564 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, the bbb UH group, you know what I mean. 565 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: You can attest to where they're at with their business 566 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: and how pioneering they were with their ways, and I 567 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: could be more happy for him as a as a father, 568 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: and as a guy who you know, has a sign, 569 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: who's taking about playing basketball, the sports, you know what 570 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean. It's just been amazing to watch. I'm happy 571 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: for I think it's one of the most fascinating things 572 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: that we've seen in the history of athletics. To be 573 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: honest with you, because it's one thing to call your 574 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: shot if you're the Babe Ruth or if you're you know, 575 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: Joe Damith and this and that. But LaVar basically called 576 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: his shot twice. He basically told you he was gonna 577 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: have a top five draft pick. And I know he 578 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: said it about all three. But when you get two 579 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: out of three that are five draft picks, my man, 580 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: top three draft picks, Okay, two sons from Chino Hills, California, 581 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It's mind boggling. And because of how brazen 582 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: he was. And I know people they have their thoughts 583 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: and Lavars and acquired Tascy. I grew up around the 584 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: balls and so I grew up in that era. So 585 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm used to all that stuff that y'all energy. Yeah, 586 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm not intimidate. That's that energy that people are intimidated by. 587 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: I get it. I'm rolling with it even to the point. 588 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: And when I had the opportunity to coach on the 589 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: j b A, which was the league that LaVar started 590 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: for LaMelo in two thousand and eighteen. It was a 591 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: barnstorm and tour. We had eight teams. We traveled the 592 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: country coast to coast, cities Dallas, Solid accommodations man, solid 593 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: travel arrangements, solid everything right. Facebook had a camera crew 594 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: that was following us. Our games were telegrass on Facebook Live. 595 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: When you look back on that situation, it was like, Wow, 596 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: and we're playing forty eight minute quarters LaMelo. Look, LaMelo 597 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: is playing the whole game. We're playing back to backs. Look, 598 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: we're doing stuff like we're being Texas play a game. 599 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: They had to fly to Seattle play another game tomorrow 600 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: the next night. I mean, so look and so it's 601 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: but to see LaVar. LaVar is just the ultimate dad, 602 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: like sports dad to do that. He created a league 603 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: for your son. And at the time when hey, at 604 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: the time when he had launched it, you know, everybody 605 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: it was maligned. Everybody was poop ping it. Everybody was 606 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: talking crap about it. They're like, Chris, why are you 607 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: even involved in something like that. I'm kind of like, well, 608 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: I see the future. I'm not necessarily stuck in what 609 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: you guys see because I've never really seen things like 610 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: you guys did, so I'm kind of looking at this 611 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: as from a developmental standpoint. I know that LaMelo is 612 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna get some reps against older dudes for the next 613 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: four That's what I said three or four. You're gonna 614 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: play against older dudes. You play against older dudes that 615 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: are better than you, that are stronger than youth, faster 616 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: than you. And then the kid went to Lithuania and 617 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: his journey is well documented, but that was one of 618 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: the first little uh moments in his career where I said, man, 619 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: this guy is built and wired differently. I mean I 620 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: saw him. I saw him go for fifty and twenty 621 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: one assists in eighteen rebounds, Like I see these numbers, right, 622 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: And people were like, oh, look who it's against. It's 623 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: not against nobody. But I'm like, you guys don't understand 624 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: basketball to be able to get fifty something points twenty 625 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: something rebounds against guys that could have went to college 626 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: or went to college. That's all I need to know 627 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: that I've seen. I've seen the talent in the league line. 628 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: So you know, we know basketball players and we know 629 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: when to respect a performance or a string of performances. Again, 630 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: certain type of dudes. Absolutely, just because you these just 631 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: because you never heard their name, or just because you 632 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: don't know they resumeate it don't mean that you have 633 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: the ability to discern whether or not they can play 634 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: the game. I'm just letting y'all know. It's a different 635 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: it's that it's that I line. But but again, we 636 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: can walk and we can walk into gym where the 637 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: top fifty is playing, and we can look at the 638 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: court and be just be be staring at the top 639 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: fifty court and be like, well, who is that he 640 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: need to be over here? He need? Yeah, I don't 641 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: know why he over there? And then this is going 642 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: on because I can pick three off of this court 643 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: right now that he should be over You know, like 644 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: you said, we're real life basketball players and just spend 645 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot of time watching basketball, scouting, basketball preaching and 646 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, coaching and you know, to 647 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: the younger generations and working on it and you come 648 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: from a long a royal basketball bloodline. You know what 649 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean with your father at the end of the day, 650 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: so you know what I mean. It's always been a 651 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: second hand to us. And you know what I mean, 652 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: Like you said, it's about time that you know what 653 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, people that know the game can actually speak 654 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: on it and like identify what a great player is 655 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: without looking at the top one hundred? Do you miss 656 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: it at all? Aline? I saw you in a workout 657 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: with your son the other day getting it here. You're 658 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: still get the stance a little bit, you still have 659 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: some lateral movement. Do you do you do you ever 660 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: sit back and say, do you ever just miss it 661 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: at all? Where you're just like, dang man, I missed 662 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: this game? Or are you at peace with where you 663 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: are and the game? When the game of basketball? I'm 664 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: not peace, But I do miss the psychotic competitive nets. 665 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Do miss the moments that will make you just want 666 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: to you know what I mean? You know what I 667 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: mean with all the slow motion things where you see 668 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: people tensed up, screaming and damn near slobbering or looking 669 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: at the floor. I do miss those psychotic, uh competitive 670 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: moments where you can scream and get those moments out 671 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: because you know, I mean, those are your flowers in 672 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: that instant because when you're when you when you're an athlete, 673 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: you know you're onto the next game, the next moment. 674 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: When you see players have those moments that end up 675 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: means and all this crazy ship we end up ingesting 676 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: for the next decade, it's really that psychotic competitiveness and 677 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: that release from your hard work paying off or you know, 678 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean going through adversity in the game to get 679 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: an am one. I don't care if you're a shifty 680 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: feet throw player you made two in a row and 681 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: you want to do some ship to the crowd, or 682 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I mean, to do something to yourself. 683 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: I just missed those moments. But I'm definitely at peace 684 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: because I know my generation of basketball was one of 685 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: the greatest ever and for for me to be mentioned, 686 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: and I've talked to a couple of players, my peers 687 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: and some of the O g s for them to 688 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: mention me and talk about my career and everything, it 689 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: really puts me at peace. But like I think I 690 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: talked about that before on the show, I didn't really 691 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: get that piece till you know, like five or six 692 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: years ago or maybe even and the time before that, 693 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: those dudes that helped me was KG. So I mean, 694 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm at peace, but I do miss the psychotic competitiveness. Yeah, man, 695 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: I missed the game. Man, I missed it a lot. 696 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: I felt like I I, you know, my career ended 697 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: too early. I had to retire because of the injury 698 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: and throw out my back and Hinea with Jr playing 699 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: on with j R. Henderson playing the same, he brought 700 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: me over there and throw out my back. I was 701 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: gonna play with him in Japan for a year. Man, 702 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: make about three to three hundred thousand bros. Like a 703 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: nice little set up twelve months, six business class to 704 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: and from l A a year. Dog. I was like, 705 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: look this is but through my back up. But I 706 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: think the thing I missed the most line is God man, 707 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna sound crazy and cocky and arrogant, but just 708 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: the feeling of when you bust somebody's ass, when you 709 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: hit a three, when you hit a deep three on 710 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: somebody after maybe through the leg, through the leg heavy, 711 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: and then you just raise it and then that that 712 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: moment right line when you're holding the funnel through you're 713 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: holding you had a nice one you had, and he 714 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: he's contesting, and you're just sitting there like, hey, you 715 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: ain't ain't nothing you could do. Those are the moments 716 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: that I also missed, those pressurized moments when we need 717 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: to be hey, when we need a bucket, or we 718 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: need an offensive rebound on on the free throw. Hey, 719 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: we need to offer as the rebounding the free throw. 720 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: So we gotta come in early and hook somebody arm 721 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: and get underneath somebody and route them underneath it. So 722 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 1: we got yeah, yeah, man, yeah, little things like when 723 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: then and then somebody else got to make sure the 724 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: other dude don't crash, you know, and stuff is a 725 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: little Yeah, that's a good point. But those locked in 726 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: moments when you know it's four seconds laughing, you know, 727 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: Coachack or somebody like, we know it's the ship gonna work. 728 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: We're just waiting for it to uh to go through. 729 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, those moments, man, and 730 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: like at the end of the day lull you. That's 731 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: why you got those moments. You know, the game was 732 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: taken away from me to and like a similar fashion, 733 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: not through injury, but partly through injury. But I think 734 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: those moments that ship don't happen to people at the 735 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: end of the day and nobody locking in with their 736 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: side hops trying to win a game with sixteen thousand, 737 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, eyes on them hoping they're 738 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna fail, and then some people expecting them to win. 739 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: Like that's not a real thing that happens in life. 740 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That you go through with 741 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: your company. You know that even if you go to 742 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: college with somebody. I guess y'all can do that on 743 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: the Calculus test for you know what I mean. You 744 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: know that was a hell of a test. You know 745 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: what you mean. YadA YadA, YadA, you know what I mean. 746 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: Or if you're a Sigma, can cheat and you go 747 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: to the whatever dance that's the under the Enchantment under 748 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: the Sea dance, and you know you can do that 749 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: type of Earth angel you know what I mean, You're 750 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: Earth angeling, you know what I mean. But nobody is 751 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: inside a Polly pavilion, you know what I mean, with 752 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: the expectations of winning for the national title contender every 753 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: year and going through that with lifelong friends. So I 754 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: hope that sometimes when you down in those moments, you 755 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: remember that ship playing the guitar and meeting people people, right, 756 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because that, uh, that eventually 757 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: evolved you into the carriage that we're saying now and 758 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 1: why you got a successful podcast on my heart brother. Yeah. Yeah, 759 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: that's the whole part of this. And you really hit 760 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: on something very very special and important because it is true. 761 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: It is those experiences that do keep you going. They 762 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: reinvigorated me. Man. I was at a low point. Man, 763 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 1: I was tripping out back, I was going through the pandemic, 764 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: all kind of drama. But then I decided for to 765 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: reach out and started to reconnect with folks again. Man 766 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: started hollering at everybody. Hold on, Man. It was in 767 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: the middle of the pandemic. Man and I had been 768 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: watching Fat Joe's podcast, and he had been He had 769 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: a great episode on there one time where he brought 770 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: in young lady by the name is Cheryl from s 771 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: w V the group s w V Coco. But her 772 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: name is Cheryl Life Coco. Right, So but I didn't 773 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: I had no did I. Fat Joe and Sheryl grew 774 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: up on the same block, the same hood they grew 775 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: up in, like Bronx River, New York Line, and so 776 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: they had this whole relationship. So they were talking about 777 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: how when when each one made it big, they would 778 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: be like so proud, and if they you know, when 779 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: they ran into each other over the years, how crazy 780 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: it was two kids. So that kind of made me. 781 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: It touched me, man. So I was like, Man, let 782 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: me holler at my my folks. Man, it's been a minute. 783 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: I ain't seeing nobody. I didn't talk to nobody, And 784 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: so I started reaching out all over the world, man, 785 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: to all of y'all here, to my different networks of 786 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: individuals that crossed my path over the course of my life. 787 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: And I'm thankful for each and every one of you, man, 788 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: and and and and like to your point, it does 789 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: help you in the end, man, when you remember, you 790 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: that your net work is your net worth, brother, and 791 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: so you gotta always keep that type of stuff in mind. 792 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: And it's a net worth in your soul too, man, 793 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: because when you get disconnected from the family, man, you 794 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: start to lack and lose certain parts of your identity. Man, 795 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: you're in there talking into you, in there talking into yourself, 796 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: because into yourself that your bullshit is right. When you 797 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: are three time, you be on bullshit and you know 798 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: myself included, you know what I mean. You're intelligent, introspective people. 799 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, we beat ourselves up, you know what 800 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean. So you know, uh, at the end of 801 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: the day, I think it's up for us to acknowledge that, 802 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, as we start to grow 803 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: older and just like you know what I mean, not 804 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: have those moments. And you know, remember the positive as 805 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: well as a negative. It's a it's a beat us 806 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: all up. The pandemic beat us all up, you know 807 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. But along with the pandemic came an 808 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: endless amount of opportunities for a short amount of time. 809 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: So that's one thing that I talked to you about, 810 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When you reached out, it's like, hey, 811 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: it will never be a time like this now. So 812 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: if you ever wanted to do something, do it now. 813 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: And you see that, you know what I mean, you 814 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: jumped on that opportunity that seemed like you said, that 815 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: seems to be only the thing you needed to hear. 816 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: And ever since then, you know what I mean, you've 817 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: been able to just progress and do the thing. This 818 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: is what you're supposed to be doing, So you know 819 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm glad that you were able to 820 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: take bits and pieces from what everybody else was saying 821 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 1: and make the decision on your own, because it's easy 822 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: to listen to people but still be locked off in 823 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: the room and isolated. And now, you know what I mean, 824 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: it's still not doing nothing, but you made so you 825 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: put some action to it, you know what I mean. 826 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: And I think during the pandemic, people who put some 827 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: action behind some of their fears and anxieties and like effort, 828 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, scared. I think they're gonna reward it, 829 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, coming into the new year. 830 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: And I think you are uh and and and a 831 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: lot of other people in our group, they're truly genuine 832 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: support each other, not the bullshit, not the Instagram likes 833 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: and reposts, you know what I mean. People that make 834 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: calls and support you. You know you called and say 835 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: congratulate solon solar. Wait, real quick, real quick. You think 836 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: there's a difference in in the level of support between 837 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: someone that made someone So two people are friends, right, 838 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: you got two friends one A friend A friend B. 839 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: Friend A calls you, friend B hits you on the internet, 840 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: like gives you the hands up, shouts out, celebratory. They 841 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: both have the same amount of emotion of happiness for you. Yeah, 842 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: is there is there a difference now or do you 843 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: appreciate it more because you're sort of old school. That's 844 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: a great That's one of your better kJ. This is 845 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: one of the better kJ Live question. Um, and I 846 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: would say the easiest way and be like, it's a hybrid, 847 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That would be the easy way. 848 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: It's the easy way. I think it's a mix above crash. 849 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: But hey, nah, for real, we lost people, we lost code. 850 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 1: I lost a friend and lost some people. So call 851 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: me man. If it's truly about support and love, you 852 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It could be a funny style text, 853 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We can joke in and 854 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: necessarily gotta be man, my brother, congratulations and all. Yo. 855 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: It could be like oh, I see you know what 856 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: I mean, or whatever it is, you know what I mean, 857 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: Like hit somebody enough for the social media and the 858 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: liking or the reposting, because you know what I mean, 859 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: Like even that long story story, hit somebody, you know 860 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. We at the time and age and 861 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: maybe I am older, you know what I mean. I 862 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: don't want to date myself or eggs myself. But we 863 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: at a time right right now where I appreciate the 864 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: people that actually hit me on my line and show 865 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: me supporting love, because that's what I do, you know 866 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'll probably do both, you know what 867 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean? If you really, if I know your Instagram guy, 868 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: and you really praise value on that, you know what 869 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, in the in the marathon or with the 870 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: raide real when you stop, Oh my god, you know 871 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying to give you a Drake quote or 872 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: whatever that is because you praise value on that. But really, 873 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like you, I'm gonna pray, 874 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: but you can hit me and be like about love. 875 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: You could be like, hit me and post this for 876 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: me dog, and I'm gonna post it for you, you you 877 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, you know, and I'm gonna put 878 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: something nice behind it, you know what I mean. But 879 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: I only do that to support you. I really could 880 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: give a ship about Instagram, and you know what I mean, 881 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: being you know what I mean, supporting in that way, 882 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: I really just put up and eat some nachos, you 883 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And you ain't even really got 884 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: to talk about congratulations. Really just about breaking bread and 885 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: being around that energy. Absolutely, energy is what it's all about. 886 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: Is I've gotten older, start to realize, man, protecting your energy. Yeah, 887 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: being understanding of energy suckers, the vampires that are out 888 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: here that will jack you and your whole thing and 889 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: your folk. I even protected some of my folks energy. 890 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: If I know you're sensitive, or I know you said 891 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: wear soft up under the belly, or just if I 892 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: got a bunch of good people around and somebody else 893 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: is bringing some negative ship, you know, I'll attack it. 894 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'll make you leave. You know what I mean, 895 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: I'll make you feel like you're not wanted so that 896 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: you can leave. You know, so you you you actually 897 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: you're that serious about your energy. You protect your energy 898 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: all costs. So you will remove a person from your 899 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: situation or attempt to or do what you can to 900 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: remove them situation if they're energy is off. Now what 901 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 1: defines bad energy? Though? You gotta be responsible for your energy. 902 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: So sometimes it's things id right, you know what I mean. 903 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: Sometimes people are just a little anxious. You know. It's 904 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: like I'm not that anxious, but I got a little 905 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 1: bit more chills at me. I'm from Cali. You know 906 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. I ain't on all that ship, you 907 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then you know what I mean, 908 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: there's some people who are envious and they ask envious questions. 909 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: You know, the people right close to you that are 910 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: unhealthy to accept your success even though you're trying to 911 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: bring them along with you. Yeah, it's complicated, you know 912 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. These things is complicated around. So I 913 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 1: just made it a point to poke the eye out 914 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: of of of of all that type of energy. And 915 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: if it means I gotta be nasty to protect the 916 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: good people that I'm around, because I think I talked 917 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: about that. I'm cocky about the people that I'm around 918 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: because they're great people, not because of their success. It's 919 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: because they're legitimately great fathers. They're legitimately great people, you 920 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. They care about people. So I 921 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: don't want because I'm a bigger guy. We we've always 922 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: been like this. We've always been on the bigger mouth side. 923 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: We can go there, we can play nasty, going back 924 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: and back and forth with somebody. Everybody ain't built like that. 925 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of aggressive. So I use that aggressiveness 926 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 1: to protect people. I love and to protect the energy, 927 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Other besides that, you probably 928 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: ain't gonna ever hear from me. You might think something 929 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: wrong with me. Probably gonna be enjoyed or you know, 930 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: some some brown water and some cannabis. I'm probably just 931 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna be in the cut blinking and staring and watching 932 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: ship because that's what I like to do on my 933 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: people watching and you know, that's just my vibe. But 934 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: if it's a it's it's about bid energy and it's 935 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: my family or my people around, then I'm probably gonna 936 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: be an asshole. What's brown water whiskey? You know what 937 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean? In my old fashioned I wanted to know 938 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: you for somebody that that partakes not you know, you 939 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: don't drink that much, but but you do drink. You 940 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 1: do drink when it's the opportunity or the occasion. Yeah, 941 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: it's proper to drink. How is it that you've managed 942 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: to keep the weight off. You've got skinnier than from 943 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: the muscle mass. Yeah you skinner. You look skinnier as 944 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: a human being, uh now than you did when I 945 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 1: knew what I know you from back in the day. Bro. Yeah, Bro, 946 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: I lost hell of muscle mass and I eat to 947 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: my activity level. And I really don't drink unless I'm 948 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna see y'all were not do I'm gonna turn up, 949 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But if you don't drink 950 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: like that, yeah, yeah, but if it's with it was 951 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: was fan, But I don't drink like that. And I 952 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: just try to do something every day. I got the 953 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: ship from you, you know what I mean, at the 954 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: end of the day. You always doing something on the 955 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: body instead of when I noticed there's something I don't 956 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: like about my body, you know what I mean, I 957 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: just go work on it. Yeah, instantly. If I got time, 958 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: it's like I ain't really feeling it, and I go around. 959 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: I used that to go around or all going here 960 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: on the peloton, you know what I mean, and take 961 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: like an hour class and then do another stretching. So 962 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: I just try to keep it moving whenever I start 963 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: getting locked or I feel like stagnant or I don't 964 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: like something. You know, we we get older, you know, 965 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: ships starting to sag. You know, are you looking at 966 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 1: your ship? You know I didn't know that was there, 967 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, grays, whatever it is, I just attack it 968 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: where I lean into it. I'm never gonna die anything. 969 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: I love my grays. I can't wait till it all 970 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: turns white, you know what I mean. And I'm just 971 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: pretty much comfortable with my own skin. But as far 972 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: as just fitness and keeping weight off, it's probably they're 973 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: not drinking and eating it to my activity. But yeah, yeah, 974 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: because you're you know, I see you, I see you 975 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: and Ray. You guys are walking around your lu lu 976 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: lu lumn and all your little fancy expensive sweat pans. 977 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,439 Speaker 1: I gotta stand next to Ray, Hey, I gotta stand 978 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 1: next to telling my nerves. Man. A couple of months ago, 979 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: he put me up against it. He had this and 980 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: I looked at mine, and you know, my nipple was 981 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: running towards towards my armpit a little bit, just a 982 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: little bit, and I'm like, damn, man, Okay, I see 983 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: I can't stand next to Ray. Up. Just how we're 984 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: gonna play? So push ups every day on the ap 985 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: like that, okay, only feeling that? Okay, let me let 986 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: me make it. Let me do two hunting push up 987 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: from the sit ups every day on the app right, Ray, 988 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: Ray puts us to shame, Man, what do you what 989 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: did you get up at five in the morning, does yoga, 990 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: he run, he's he looks for those. Let's get the 991 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: description of this guy. How old is Ray thirty six 992 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: thirty second yea forty years old. He looks like he's 993 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: about twenty two. He's like a muscle muscle bound, just buff, 994 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 1: light skinned, green eyed dude from the town, Your typical 995 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: classic town. He's been walking on his tippytoes and he's 996 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: been about ten years old. His calfs are ridiculous dog, 997 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: ridiculous calf like. He's known by the calf bro good. 998 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: We love, we love Ray, We love when you get 999 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: Ray shot. Also wanted to give him our guy, be 1000 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: Lloyd shout out. I was actually with Brandon down to 1001 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: the day. Goo uh. He's a loyal, dedicated listener of 1002 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 1: the show. Here. I know he's gonna really look forward 1003 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: to hearing this one and he's gonna be leave my room. Man. Yeah, man, 1004 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: that's our guy. So I wanted to shout him out, man. 1005 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's it all right. So let's get to 1006 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: the story about Brandon and the Jesus sand because look, 1007 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: when you bring up stuff like that, we have to 1008 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: talk about it. First of all, Brandon Lloyd's from Tulsa, Oklahoma, Okay, 1009 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: came out to l A on his recruiting trip. Right 1010 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: he comes to U C l A. I think me 1011 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: and yours. I forgot who hosted him, but it was 1012 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: my years, so I think it was on you. Was 1013 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: it on your visit? I remember? I don't know so. 1014 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: But then, so what's the story. What's it on his notes? 1015 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: That's Carlos at the campus. No, that's Carlos Boozer. I'm 1016 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: thinking about the Buren Stocks, the Birkin Stocks on the 1017 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: physics the first first day the campus, when we was 1018 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: all together on the on the team and some non 1019 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: burking Stocks off brand sandals. The Jesus said, man, that 1020 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: was that was back when Lloyd had when Lloyd's toads 1021 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: wearing green. Oh, he said, Lloyd showed up looking a 1022 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: lot like Ray Young, but the white version. Don't sleep. 1023 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: I'll be Lloyd used to looking like a little tail back. Yeah, 1024 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: Lloyd was Lloyd. Lloyd was one of the most obsessive 1025 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: people with his weight and his his body looked. I mean, 1026 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: he was obsessive. I'll never forget how cut he got. 1027 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 1: I think his junior year did he started wearing tight 1028 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: jeans and going to the Sentry Club with us. Yeah, 1029 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: he got exposed in he changed Lloyd. Shout out to 1030 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: Lloyd all this beautiful wife and his beautiful kids down 1031 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 1: and San Diego. Man. But it's always nice to remember 1032 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: the times. Man. Are U c l A experienced line 1033 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: was one that was pretty legendary. Uh. We talked about 1034 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: numerous things about it before. But but one thing I 1035 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,760 Speaker 1: wanted to bring up. I don't think we've talked about before. 1036 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: Um dry our our time, right, I wanted to know 1037 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: and just to be completely honest from a life skills perspective, Right, 1038 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: did you learn anything when you and I had to 1039 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: go through our little counts a link situation where we 1040 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: got in trouble? Did you learn anything from Dr Geen? 1041 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: Did you take like for later in life? Because she 1042 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: could always tell us. Look, Magelanni had to see the same. 1043 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: I think she was a psychiatrists or a counselor type 1044 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: of lady. We got into that. We got in trouble 1045 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: at U c l A. You know, we got I 1046 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: think we failed a drug test smoking a little bit 1047 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: too much mirror or something like or something like that. 1048 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: We were early on the cannabis movement. We were advocating 1049 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: early we're ahead of the curve, and we got popped 1050 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: and we had we had to go through sort of 1051 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: this you know, rehabilitation program. And we're gonna be upfront 1052 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: and honest about this because for me personally, my meetings 1053 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: with Dr Gene Lovely Lady was really frank, honest and 1054 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: upfront about everything. Didn't pull any punches right, would just 1055 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 1: tell you about yourself in a such a smart, intelligent way. 1056 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,720 Speaker 1: You had no you had no choice but to listen. 1057 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: And I think that my time with her and talking 1058 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: to her, those all those dates him twelve fourteen weeks, 1059 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: whatever it was, I think that was some life changing 1060 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: stuff for me. Yeah, loco, Yeah it was. You know 1061 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,760 Speaker 1: what I mean. It shout out to Dr Jean Jeane 1062 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: wherever you are. You know what I mean, because only 1063 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: did when when when I got older, When I got older, 1064 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: not in my thirties, but just as I got away 1065 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: from U C. L A. I saw the work that 1066 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 1: she did for us, you know what I mean? Uh? 1067 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: And And that's how it's a hats off to how 1068 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: great she was because we didn't know the blessing that 1069 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: she was giving us at the time because of what 1070 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: we were going through. But she did really do a 1071 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: good job preparing for us for what was next. And 1072 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what happens if we have a different 1073 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 1: psychologist or whatever legl she as if if it's not 1074 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: very different, because the one of the big part of 1075 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 1: everything was showing up and going. And I know that 1076 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 1: if it was anyone else that I would not have 1077 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 1: been motivated to go. I sort of developed not I won't. 1078 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: I call it a not an addiction, but I needed 1079 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 1: to see g but I needed to go see the ERG. 1080 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to go talk to her because I loved 1081 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: our last conversation and she did that like fourteen times 1082 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: in a row. She was definitely someone that gave me 1083 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 1: some life coping skills, some you know, tools to deal 1084 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: with you know whatever issues that were at the at 1085 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: the root of sort of my learning issue. But again, 1086 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: and that leads me into my last question man about 1087 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,399 Speaker 1: mental health man, because we can talk about this all 1088 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 1: the timeline and we get deep into it. And when 1089 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 1: you see a guy like Delonte West who who fell 1090 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 1: and who fell off the wagon and you know, got 1091 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble, we're hoping the best for him, 1092 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: and you see other guys x NBA guys retired athletes 1093 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: that you know put themselves in interesting predicaments or situations. 1094 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: What do you think you can do or NBA lumni 1095 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 1: can do to help support their other NBA bretern that 1096 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,280 Speaker 1: have fallen on hard times. And man, get the bros 1097 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,240 Speaker 1: out of the house. If you gotta if you gotta 1098 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 1: found ation and you got a game, you know what 1099 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, You got a golf game, you got anything 1100 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,240 Speaker 1: that you're doing. Find good ways to get the bros 1101 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: out of the house to attend the sporting event, a 1102 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: Rams game, a Panthers game that a lot like what 1103 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,399 Speaker 1: we talked about it and get you out of your 1104 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: head and you know what I mean, help you reassess 1105 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 1: in a in a live situation better. Because if you 1106 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: just at the crib which your sorrow is buried underneath, 1107 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: you know your bs, you forget that life is moving 1108 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: around outside and there's still opportunities. And if you've got 1109 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: some good friends, you know what I mean, they want 1110 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: to help you out. They might be waiting on you 1111 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: to hand you an opportunity or to see if you're 1112 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 1: healthy enough to accept the blessing. So if you if 1113 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna keep yourself hidden a way, you know what 1114 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean. It's a fifty fifty thing. You might be 1115 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 1: able to you know what I mean, get out of 1116 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: that rut. You might be able to not. But if 1117 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: we can just get each other out of the house, 1118 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. People got wives, you know, kids, 1119 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is, health retreats. We should all 1120 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 1: be going somewhere every quarter or whatever. We talked. We 1121 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: talked about doing that. Yeah, yeah, that we need to 1122 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 1: start that because it's a real thing, you know what 1123 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean. Every people got stressful jobs, people in different 1124 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: places in their life. And I think once we come 1125 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: together at that, you know what I mean, and build 1126 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: and then send each other back and then come back 1127 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: with information and oh this is great, you know what 1128 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I appreciate and then you send each other 1129 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: back and we just keep coming back. And you know 1130 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 1: that's how you know, the black community and even what 1131 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm just speak to the black community because a lot 1132 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: of us are black athletes, and you know they're going 1133 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: through this something. That's what we did in the first place, 1134 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: arm arm each other up, sending back out, you know 1135 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: what I mean, bringing back Oh this is going on 1136 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 1: over here. They're doing it this way over here, and 1137 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: so and so said this. I found this guy who 1138 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: said that help us out, because that's what our uh 1139 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: they're not even rivals, that's what the other side is doing. 1140 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 1: And I mean I mean that in the most respectful 1141 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: type of way. You know what I mean. I mean 1142 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: the other side. I mean the guys that didn't come 1143 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 1: from our neighborhoods and get scholarships or have an opportunity 1144 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: to for just paid in the NBA and do all 1145 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: this scrap ships. So I just think if we get 1146 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: each other out of the house, commune, break bread, send 1147 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: each other back out, you know what I mean, check 1148 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: off on each other, I think will be a lot 1149 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 1: better because, like you said, there's a lot of guys 1150 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: in the crib just in their head. I agreed. I've 1151 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 1: seen it work. I've seen it work in real time 1152 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: with our unit, right, So it worked. It worked. It's 1153 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: a pretty dynamic, interesting unit. And we got NBA coaches, agents, CEOs, entrepreneurs, 1154 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: people in the media space. Long the egos, the egos 1155 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: in that room, and when I walk in the room 1156 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 1: with you guys, man, you guys egos are incorrect. All 1157 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: you NBA guys, Oh, man, I hate it. It sucks 1158 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: like I have to like fight to get word. I 1159 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: have to fight to get a word, to fight to 1160 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: get a word with you, cocky poppas NBA dudes. Now LNS, 1161 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the LNS, the term I 1162 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: ain't gonna let it fly, y'all gotta do he gotta 1163 00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: he gotta unbuild it. He desires out you with the 1164 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 1: Aproman stands for as it correlates to this particular situation. 1165 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: But yes, he has a whole line of products you know, 1166 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 1: with LNS on it correlates to these types of things. Yeah, 1167 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a Instagram shop pretty soon too. I'm 1168 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: gonna get this thing going, my brother. Um. But at 1169 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: the end of the day, line, I'm excited for you. 1170 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, man, I'm excited for all these 1171 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: projects that you got coming up. Man, make sure that 1172 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: you know you keep us updated on the show about 1173 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,439 Speaker 1: anything new that development. Would love to have you back, 1174 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: my brother. Uh, thank you so much for your time 1175 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: to thank you. Want to give anybody any shot outs 1176 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: before we go, man, I'm gonna going to give a 1177 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 1: shout out to Joanna McCoy and my wife who has 1178 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: been holding it down, you know where, for you've known 1179 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 1: there since she was sixteen years old. So I don't 1180 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: never really give her a shout out of her flowers. 1181 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't really give myself a shout out at to much. 1182 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: But she deserves a lot of credit for being able 1183 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: to put up with me and to be able to 1184 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: do some of this stuff. And then shout out to 1185 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: brother Barnes and Stephen Jackson, you know what I mean 1186 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: for trusting me. You know what I mean with this opportunity, 1187 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: And shout out to you man, you know what I mean, 1188 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: Joe Siyah, Yes, Sir, y'r sir, appreciate you, my man. 1189 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,919 Speaker 1: Joannie McCoy, I'm kJ Live