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Speaker 1: Previously on that moment with Damon John.

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Speaker 2: The name is out there, It's known all over the world.

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Speaker 3: Everybody said they did it first. We did it all

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Speaker 2: People out there that really really loved the brand, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm on excuse to cut out hair.

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Speaker 2: Frediro was actually one of the reasons we got the

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Speaker 4: Got shot and the red shirt.

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Speaker 2: No one called you back and it was like, I

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Speaker 2: see you guys still out there doing your thing. You know,

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Speaker 2: let's have another meeting. You definitely got to put the

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Speaker 3: No tickets to the show, no social media, don't really

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Speaker 3: know what it would drop you off in LA with

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Speaker 3: video set. They're kicking everybody off.

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Speaker 2: For me, it's like making sure that you had the

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Speaker 2: right outfits and the right colors for that artist, to

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Speaker 2: make sure that you know, when they looked at it,

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Speaker 2: it really hyped about it. To see Drake thirty one

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Speaker 2: years later circle back and throw something on that we

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Speaker 2: didn't give him. We didn't give him. We didn't give him.

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Speaker 1: And now part two of That Moment with Damon John's

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Speaker 1: episode The Unfiltered Fubu Files, presented by the Black Effect

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network and iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: What If I told you there was more to the

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Speaker 3: story behind game changing events. Get ready for my new podcast,

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Speaker 3: That Moment with Damon John will jump into the personal

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Speaker 3: stories of some of the most influential people on the planet,

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Speaker 3: from business mobiles and celebrities to athletes and artists.

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Speaker 5: But fortunately, and the crazy part was to shift those

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Speaker 5: CDs to the stores pre ordered with the genes, so

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Speaker 5: everybody got what they call a shelf talker with about

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Speaker 5: We didn't get the at that time. We couldn't get

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Speaker 3: But you here here, here's what I did learn on that.

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Speaker 3: On that too, though we had a problem. We made

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Speaker 3: the money, we had a problem. You know what the

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Speaker 3: of the gene because the normal didn't have a case

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Speaker 3: I got the gene, but what a fatty girl record

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Speaker 2: Right, But that's happened.

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Speaker 5: When you have someone's stealing your ship, man, that's they

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Speaker 5: gonna think that's gonna happen. So I think at that

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Speaker 5: time we were smart enough to we we had a

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Speaker 4: And we use our leverage. We use our leverage once.

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Speaker 4: So I wanted to say, real quick, Keith, we ain't

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Speaker 5: And it's it's relevant to what's going on now because

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Speaker 4: Is that Gucci movie of time?

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Speaker 5: And at that time, our head designer Bobby told me, hey,

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Speaker 4: Kid named for Real.

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Speaker 5: You to go check out Virginia And this is where

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Speaker 5: But it's funny how our head designer was more aware

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Speaker 3: Now I want to tell everybody you know, but that

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Speaker 3: Luda Chris is wearing Keith. I'm gonna let you tell

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Speaker 3: the story. Ludacris is wearing a chain, and we get

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Speaker 3: and who he danced with, who put out a book,

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Speaker 2: And it was that much had the uh he had

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Speaker 6: William shoots him with Karen Stephen. What was her book.

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Speaker 3: All right, she's dancing with him, she's rubbing up on him.

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Speaker 3: We play it in the office and then we all

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Speaker 3: said at the same time, what's the upside? The upside

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Speaker 3: Our guy was a ex army ranger. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: your service, Joey. He did. He never took Hal's advice,

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Speaker 3: It is still I love doing so much and I

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Speaker 3: With always.

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Speaker 3: Well people people were looking for some tarms that them

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Speaker 3: But they were looking for us man, they were saying

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Speaker 3: the limited knowledge that pool was for everybody, right, they said,

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Speaker 3: we sell them to Montego Bay, doctor J. We were

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Speaker 3: how did the old By jersey come about the most samous,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, shout out. My man sent me on Rice.

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Speaker 2: He was I think he was number ninety seven, but

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Speaker 2: need to do one. We do one of these jerseys,

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Speaker 3: You see you let me down, We're gonna We're gonna

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Speaker 2: Stories is off bro.

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Speaker 3: I'm all right, well listen your car see I'm you

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Speaker 3: Here's my record, less of it. You was wearing it

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Speaker 9: one of you said this. After that, one of you said,

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Speaker 3: Somebody who likes a Giants one or a Falcons one.

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Speaker 3: They have one two options. But there's no clothing record.

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Speaker 3: Remember we did see c N why jersey that they

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Speaker 2: We said, what if we just.

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Speaker 3: Do with jerseys. It's kind of sports affiliated, so we

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Speaker 3: And then we did it. And then when the jersey

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Speaker 3: We ain't even gonna get damn because we'll be on

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Speaker 4: But we, like you said, you said millions of goods,

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Speaker 5: But I think that one one thing that always stuck

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Speaker 2: Who who started and it was always, you know, all

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Speaker 3: everybody here will have a brand, a company, a store.

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00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: There will always be somebody who either is saying something

441
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 3: because they don't know any better, ignorance. How much tension

442
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: do you? And I respect Jim and that was his

443
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: that is that was his you know, that was his

444
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: thoughts in. Jim is very pro community investing in them,

445
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: you know, but I don't think he's actly about any

446
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 3: even gaming love. What do you say to people were

447
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: trying to strive right now? They got all these people

448
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: supporting them and given love. They got this small amount

449
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: of people who for whatever let's call it hate, for

450
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: whatever reason of ignorance, whatever case of jealousy or just

451
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: you know whatever, What do you say about all the

452
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 3: hate that the people receive and how do you either

453
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: win you dress ignore it with huge battles.

454
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 5: I mean, the bottom line is if no one's everyone's

455
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 5: not gonna love you, I mean, you gotta fu You

456
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 5: gotta just just accept that from the jump, especially if

457
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 5: you have any kind of level of success. So you're

458
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 5: gonna have people that don't agree with what you're doing

459
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 5: or just find fault and what you're doing or critique it.

460
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 5: But as far as Jim Jones go, you're gonna have

461
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 5: people that just speak out of ignorance. I think my

462
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 5: biggest issue with Jim Jones I watched a whole interview,

463
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 5: was I've seen him in that office, you know what

464
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen him. I've seen keep entertaining him

465
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 5: and take care of him, make sure he had closed

466
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 5: whether it's football or koogie or whateverels and the umbrother.

467
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 5: But he he, he knows, he knows our company on

468
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 5: the on the on the level that a lot of

469
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 5: artists don't know it. So that kind of drew me off.

470
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 5: But it's his experience. If you felt that he didn't

471
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 5: wear it in Harlem, I mean ax Mace ax Puff

472
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 5: asked Camra.

473
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

474
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 5: We you know we like you said, go to one

475
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 5: forty fistreet as the storing is up there. Ask Jimmy

476
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 5: Jazz asks doctor James. When it was millions of dollarsand

477
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 5: business there and.

478
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: You sad you saw the two sales?

479
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, sales, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So my my, my

480
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 12: understanding of him when he came into the office. Yeah,

481
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 12: he did come batter always for a check. We were

482
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 12: doing some other stuff.

483
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: I can't say it that I addressed him, but but

484
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 3: I met him, meaning working on him way later, like

485
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: two thousand and two, two thousand and two thousand and

486
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: four five. But we're talking about camn all them coming up. Man,

487
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: I love them anyway, But again, it's crazy when.

488
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 5: You as it's either you love it or you can't

489
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 5: stand it a love hate thing and want to compare.

490
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, finish, I mean you

491
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: want to compare like.

492
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 5: I guess a name that everyone's familiar with. They tend

493
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 5: to choose us because everyone knows the name. But even

494
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 5: to this day, you can't go in any part of

495
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 5: the world, and I've been on lots of parts in

496
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 5: this world.

497
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: At this point in my life, everyone knows the brand Football,

498
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 4: and I.

499
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 5: Think at this point there's no other black owned company

500
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 5: that can say that, you know what I mean. And

501
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 5: that's not bragging, that's just facts.

502
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: Let me let me give some interesting stats or facts

503
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: or whatever case. We have the number one children's Better

504
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: Girl bed before bed bathroom beyond maybe years ago that

505
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: was sold in the market. We hare the number one

506
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: rented tuxedo in the country for three years straight. But

507
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: no way news a food. We took Seedo in various

508
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: other things. We were in twenty seven or twenty eight

509
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: countries till today. We still do really well in Germany,

510
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: North Africa, Manila, all over Europe. We made we made

511
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: form fitting, slender, skinny clothes in a lot of these

512
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: countries because we had to make it for smaller size

513
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: and other things, but we made the big clothes here.

514
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: We were the only brand to ever trademark and protect successfully.

515
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: The mark of five came out because we came out

516
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: with five before five existed, kind of like you can't

517
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 3: do three two three whatever cases of seven to two

518
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: to five for a BMW, and we successfully defended that

519
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 3: mark for many many years with the only brand to

520
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: come out and have an actually gold album and the

521
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: first to come out with a with an album of

522
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: sort of new artists and new songs and new distribution.

523
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: And we were the only brand to have the biggest

524
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: clue in advertising history. Shout out to l L cool

525
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: J with the Gap ad to spend thirty million dollars

526
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: on a Fooboo ad. We also did the Old five

527
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: because MTV started blurring logos like Buboo, but we knew

528
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: they would not blur numbers, so we were able to

529
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: freely product place in every brand we ever wanted to

530
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: because we were able to put the Old five in there.

531
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: A young man named Sean Trophy Combs one created brand

532
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: called Sean John, and we successfully went and headhunted and

533
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: found our brother Jeff Tweety, who was running Twism for

534
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: Shack and placed him over at Sean John and that

535
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: helped him secure his deal to create Sean John. We

536
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: also placed a guy named burnt On In over at

537
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: Fat at Baby Fat, and we also distributed Fat Farm

538
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: in Europe. We acquired other brands such as we licensed

539
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: Kappa Ted Baker. We gave those back, uh, and we

540
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: then acquired a brand called Kooji and Drunken Monkey. Drunk Monkey.

541
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: The partner was what Ether and crown Holder uh and

542
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: Etnics footwear.

543
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: What I no, no, I mean, there's so many different points.

544
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: You know, we dressed the champion Lennix Lewis throughout his

545
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: entire history, even though we tried to dress uh Mike

546
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: Tyson simultaneously. Mike got really mad at remember the day

547
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: that and I said on his podcast, We said, because

548
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: like yeah, and Mike Dansley, why you doing? He he

549
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: fell asleep next to me on a plane one day.

550
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: Didn't realize from the I spent the whole like trying

551
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: to spin in his drink because he was shivering right

552
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: next to me. Thank god I didn't. He told him

553
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: on his podcast and he was already demanding. But uh,

554
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: you know, so many great things.

555
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: And but you know that was another fact.

556
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 4: We talked about Harlem a lot.

557
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 5: I really got a shout out the South, I mean

558
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 5: from Man to Houston to my South or they.

559
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: Held me all and you can see us in every

560
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: video from them boat so all down.

561
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, they really embraced this man, you know, for the

562
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 5: retailers to the artists.

563
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: Do you remember when fifty cents he used to try

564
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: to what used to stand outside of about clothes and

565
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: King Cone and all that stuff, and we you know,

566
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: he obviously came in. He was a young artist coming up, and.

567
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: He gave us love, you know what I mean.

568
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: And of course jore ruling all that one more time.

569
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: And we were in the middle of the East Coast

570
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: West coast beat because we were dressing everybody and.

571
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: We had.

572
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 13: Hotel room or something. But I didn't even I never

573
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 13: even heard that, dude. And uh, do you remember how

574
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 13: we went.

575
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: Time? Remember how we said we went to change the

576
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: magic show and started bringing these people and throw these

577
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: events that people would never see before. And we totally

578
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: changed the whole way that the entire magic show was done.

579
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: Period or before they was viral. We would just go

580
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: into a city and buy out a club for the

581
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: bar and for three four hours and people would leave

582
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: out there pissing and and crapping on themselves, going.

583
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 5: I remember this, I remember because you hit a conversation

584
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 5: with us and say, Yo, who were gonna hide from

585
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 5: the neighborhood. And I was like, YO, TOLDY, I don't

586
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 5: know what he do. We gotta figure out something for him,

587
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 5: will darn uh. We just we really went out of

588
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 5: our way to hire and give kids, guys, girls too,

589
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 5: opportunities that they probably would never had.

590
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: That never they never had. And those those couple of

591
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: hundred black African Americans right would go off and be

592
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: in the industry now and have great jobs. But I

593
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: loved how was the U United Nations. We would have

594
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: all our beautiful Korean part our career partners and should

595
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: work for us. We would have the people who were

596
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: Russians were for us, the Indians, because we were dealing

597
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: with all countries, right of course, our our partners and

598
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: the Korean we have partners who Korean, We're partner of

599
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: the Jewish. We have Black Sees who are Australian and Latinos,

600
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: and and it was an Indians because we had to

601
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: be we had to work and think on a global scale.

602
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: And even though we were.

603
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: From the hood, somebody would come in and say, well,

604
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: in my country, you know what we would do with that?

605
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: We would add this and that.

606
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 11: We were like like we put this with this.

607
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: And you remember, we keep saying it was you remember

608
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: we still have distribution in Mexico.

609
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: You're up.

610
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just thinking about the life. I don't want

611
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: people to hear the one more.

612
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 5: If you're not a three hundred million dollar company, it's

613
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 5: nothing wrong with being a fifty million dollar company.

614
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: One hundred million, right, No, there's nothing wrong with one

615
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: million dollar company. In college, I want you to shout

616
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: out our country.

617
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: Is in our division because everything from anyway whatever.

618
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: But one more interesting fact, you know what working on.

619
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: We've been saving it for a special day. We've seen

620
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: a lot of movies and we've seen a lot of things.

621
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: I know when I'm in Holly Williston, I'm in how

622
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: I know we're talking and we always talk to people.

623
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: And I go, what are you ever going to do

624
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: a story on?

625
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: Because I've seen all the stories and nothing wrong with it.

626
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: I've seen the empires, I've seen the ones and when

627
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: people come up from the music canness, they come on.

628
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 14: From the drug world, and uh, you know fIF he

629
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 14: puts out the great story about b MP and I've

630
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 14: seen all those. How I sorry about four African Americans

631
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 14: who were raised by African American women who didn't have

632
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 14: an education and worked in a community with I really

633
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 14: did that why Jewelers, Korean and everybody else.

634
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: And they took this culture and put out the number

635
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: one black exported uh product in the world. And we

636
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: never got shot.

637
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 2: We never shot anybody with the break crack.

638
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: And they're like, no, no, no, but but somebody's dope

639
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: f now right, No, no we're not.

640
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: They're in jail.

641
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 11: No he don't smack of course, no, no.

642
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: No, he's not worth it.

643
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: They wanted somebody to put it in drama. See what

644
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: they People don't really understand because we we just did

645
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: our business a certain way, like we experienced a lot

646
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: of drama. You didn't have social media, you didn't have

647
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: a lot of cameras around at that time that recorded

648
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff. But we went through some

649
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: really trying times that we got through. And you know,

650
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: we don't talk about anytime because we always say we

651
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: got to save it for the documentary. But maybe we

652
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: need to start talking about a little you know, putting

653
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: out there a little bit more because drama.

654
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, listen, all right, all right, you know what,

655
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: let me keep it.

656
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: Let me keep it really real with your key. We

657
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: did this because if people know our story, our best friends.

658
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 3: We grew up in Queens where you see the movies

659
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: about Supreme Team. Our best friends were Supreme Team. One

660
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Speaker 3: of our friends Hype Away and made the movie Belly

661
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: about right, So those are our friends. We decided not

662
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: to take that route. We also decided once we got

663
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: past that point to get out of the hood. We

664
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: decided instead of slinging something that was a white substance,

665
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: we slung a different white substance. It's called cotton right,

666
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: and we got out of the hood. We got past

667
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: the clutches of the drug dealers. But before you know what,

668
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: they turned around. They saw, wait a minute, those guys

669
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: make along when they came after us. So we had

670
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: to make sure to stay away from them, and we

671
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: got with some really great executive protection and also certain

672
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: people in the hood loved us who kept them away.

673
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: We never had to do anything in any sense. But

674
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: then you get into a world where at that time

675
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: a lot of the mafia was in the world. You know,

676
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: the Yauza was over here in Japan and there than

677
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 3: these guys and girls.

678
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 11: You know, you don't have.

679
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have a Yeah you don't have a store.

680
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: Who's gonna somebody who's making one hundred and fifty thousand,

681
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: who got about ten million dollars with the goods than you,

682
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: and they don't want you to buy a house on

683
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: the side. And we had to keep it clean because

684
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: the minute.

685
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: We didn't want everything we worked for.

686
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 3: Yes, and everybody here is tempted to take a short cut,

687
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: not because they think that it's something that they need

688
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: to do, but there's somebody else. Always, the devil's always

689
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: sitting on your shoulder saying, if you only do this,

690
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: that would be much help you.

691
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: But you know what, I wanted to just touch on

692
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: the point when you said earlier, you know about the

693
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: haters and stuff like that. You know, we never really

694
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: paid too much attention to none of that. But you guys, remember,

695
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: we never really got to respect from the fashion industry

696
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: because we weren't actually making clothes, and so it was

697
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: always were always we were. We were very popular, but

698
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: we were like an outcast in our own industry because

699
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, those guys ain't designing this all

700
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: those but we were making tons of money. So we

701
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: always had some type of doubt or hate against us

702
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: even when we got out the hood. What they say

703
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: when we got out the hood, Oh, you ain't gonna

704
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: make it. You ain't gonna be no design he ain't

705
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: gonna have no store. You ain't gonna have this, You

706
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: ain't gonna have some of the same people that you know,

707
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: not the guys you were just talking about, but our

708
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: friends in the neighborhood was saying that. And then years

709
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: later it was up at the empire. They body like, yo,

710
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: shign put me on sign, and some of them I

711
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: think we did. We did give them opportunities. But you

712
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: know we've always had that that it was just always there.

713
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: Whenever you and when you ever get there and all

714
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: these people watching, you're gonna get to hate. You know

715
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: how times I heard Puppy is not a producer because

716
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: they say he just walks and goes that's right. Well,

717
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: you know Puffy's doing all right, that's right. You know

718
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And you're not you're you're not you

719
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: are what you are. You don't have to be and

720
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: do I think uh Virgil and those designers are brilliant. Absolutely,

721
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: I can't none of us can sew us show a

722
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: suit like Tom Ford, right, none of us are vera

723
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: way and that and those designers are brilliant and should

724
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: be celebrated, right because you know they know technically how

725
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: to do something. And there's a lot of people who

726
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: know how to do something, but you know who we are.

727
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: We know why people do something, totally different because if

728
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: you know how do something, you'll always have a job.

729
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: If we you know why people do something, you'll always

730
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: be the boss, right and and and so everybody here

731
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: who feels intimidated because they don't have the skills, so

732
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: they're not respected by each other, by their peers. Michael

733
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: Dell created computers because he said, I don't understand all

734
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: this technology, but I know that I need to be

735
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: able to communicate through this simplified way and form so teeth.

736
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Speaker 2: I think you bring it up and you if you

737
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: if you're out there.

738
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: Always looking for acknowledging and stuff like that, you're not

739
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: going to get it by a lot of people.

740
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 5: You have friends, friends or relatives or may never even

741
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 5: support you or buy your goods.

742
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: But there's a whole world out there. I mean, we're

743
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: proofing that there's a world out there that.

744
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 5: Will appreciate what you bring to the culture and bring

745
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 5: to the industry, and that's what you focus on.

746
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're gonna get people that doesn't doubt you.

747
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 4: That's and that wouldn't be mad at them.

748
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 5: Like I said earlier in the conversation, they don't see

749
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 5: your vision, don't blame them.

750
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 4: Focus on people that do see They.

751
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: Don't see a vision. Also, it's a big world. A

752
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: lot of people don't know you. And when you get

753
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: you know, I take my half off the little upon

754
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 3: of Nikes and the people who've been able to create

755
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: these brands for years on people. So what if Foot

756
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: will go in here and there it went the same

757
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: area that Benetton went and leave out when came in

758
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: the market, leave out doing eighteen billion, they would be

759
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 3: down the three they're coming back up or what happens.

760
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: Don't take it personal.

761
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: You're a kid.

762
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 3: You got four years of fool but in your closet

763
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: in high school, when you go to college, you want

764
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: to try something new, you know, and when people are

765
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: doing all that chatter to worry about because in the

766
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 3: great words of the visionary name, because this just happens

767
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 3: to me in public and public platform, all the stuff

768
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 3: we're talking about all the good that we have tried

769
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: to do. We made some mistakes, of course, right, everybody, Right,

770
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 3: all my years, somebody had sent recently on social media,

771
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: Damon tried to do this to me. Guess what. Most

772
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: people didn't pay attention to it. But it went onto

773
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: that platform when people singing and dance and they just

774
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: reading titles. Right, no problem, right, it's easy to share.

775
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: A lot of these people don't know who I am.

776
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: And I remember the great words of a guy named

777
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: David Chappelle, and he said, I'm gonna do an imitation.

778
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: I don't care what you do when you do the

779
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: hearing about it.

780
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 8: Even you didn't do it, I don't care how old

781
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 8: is today, tomorrow, last year, twenty years ago.

782
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 11: Even if you did do it, I'm.

783
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 8: Gonna bur I'm gonna hold you youty for it, and

784
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 8: I'm gonna never let you go.

785
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 11: And he was like, who is that?

786
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: And everybody's like the government, the government.

787
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 11: He was like, no, that's yo, oh my yess youth.

788
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Speaker 15: You know.

789
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: And the bottom line is that do it for the

790
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: right reasons. You may or may not get acknowledgment, man,

791
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: but if you having fun, do for the special people

792
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 3: you're connecting with and I think we had a great

793
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: time down this path, and I really want this to

794
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: be about everybody listening and how can they take our

795
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 3: experiences because we're we're there with football. Now we're half way.

796
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: You know, people thinking foogle and they're doing it, and

797
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: they're using it.

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Speaker 16: In their own ways and their own forms and the

799
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 16: power in their communities and and they're not necessarily selling goods,

800
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 16: but they're using it as an acronym for empowerment of

801
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 16: whoever they are.

802
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 3: And we never tell them to take that down.

803
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 11: We love.

804
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: This is definitely bigger than the the what we It's

805
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: bigger than clothing, you know. We always have always felt

806
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 5: that way. However, like you said, we just scratched the surface.

807
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 5: I believe I think that it's only been You've only

808
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 5: been in business thirty years. You look at these big brands,

809
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 5: they've been in business for fifty one hundred, two hundred years.

810
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: Uh, Louis Vuitton was Napoleon. You know, we still have

811
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 4: but we just scratched the surface.

812
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 17: And I think that we have a long way to

813
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 17: go and a lot more just a lot more growth

814
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 17: to go, a lot more things to do, you know.

815
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: I've gotten healthier in my life. And I always tell

816
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: people that if I decided that we want to make

817
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: plant based, low sodium soul food frozen dishes or caribbean infuse,

818
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 3: that is healthy where it's not as much of the

819
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: sodium for blood pressure, but you enjoy the flavors and

820
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: the taste for that super soul food. What's wrong? We

821
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: have food Hotel keep sitting in front of foodgal Radio.

822
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: If you want to listen to all you know beautiful

823
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: after American music where they went from a beautiful time,

824
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: or we was talking about love and fun with a

825
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: woman and y'all check out my sneakers.

826
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 4: That's why you piece here.

827
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: That ain't a love that.

828
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: You want usen to Jigantar.

829
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 3: You want listen to Gigon Let's get married.

830
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Speaker 4: See wholesome.

831
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Speaker 5: We have a history, we have a we have a

832
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Speaker 5: we have a story in that I think that a

833
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 5: lot of people even to this day can gravitate to that.

834
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like the fact that we're now kind

835
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: of diversifying. Well, we've been trying to do it for

836
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: a while, but you know, we have other things going on.

837
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: We've we've took the brand to another level where you know,

838
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: we're tapping into media, We're tapping into real estate and hotels,

839
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 2: we're tapping into TV, you know, doing different things.

840
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: So you know the.

841
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: Skies and limit and you know ten years from them,

842
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: you know two ten years from now football radio or

843
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Speaker 2: you know for us by his network, or you know

844
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: football hotel might be Oh.

845
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: You know what somebody right now who is a direct

846
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Speaker 3: DTC expert and they want to say, Man, I want

847
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: to take fouble what I want to do? I want

848
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: to do. I want to do pantone color acrylic paints

849
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Speaker 3: made from Fullboo call us hit us on the d

850
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Speaker 3: M with so thank you guys. Man, I love you man,

851
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 3: And you know these things are usually thirty five forty minutes.

852
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: I might make two or three parts of these things.

853
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: I we even talking about myself. I love you well.

854
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 5: We didn't even talk, you.

855
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 18: Know, man, we did not talk about the same mark

856
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 18: the man taking out, you know, stealing the clothes he

857
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 18: couldn't go, and their.

858
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: Blocking Tina Turner.

859
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: Actually what a young man, a guy that I just

860
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: interviewed the other day. Uh, what's the name geezuh uh,

861
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 3: I'll tell you bro. Then he's actually the focus.

862
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 15: He said, you were the largest something like the largest

863
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 15: gathering of African American celebrities outside of the United States.

864
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Speaker 3: Uh pack a.

865
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Speaker 11: Guy name Yeah?

866
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Speaker 3: I mean I did an interview with guy named Paxton,

867
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Speaker 3: who I didn't realize was behind so much other stuff.

868
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: And we didn't talk about first Ball helping launch Live

869
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: magazine and the number one Black advertiser and by magazine

870
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Speaker 3: source and the number one Black advertiser in de t

871
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Speaker 3: and helping them.

872
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 2: But I was talking to a guy named Packs.

873
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: Another Daniel is absolutely another another brother like oh, people

874
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 3: that you don't know owns five a portion of five

875
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: usually sports teams, and one is in.

876
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Speaker 2: Europe.

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Speaker 3: He said, I was the producer of that show.

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Speaker 15: You were the largest gathering of African American celebrities outside

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Speaker 15: of the United States.

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Speaker 3: You know what before they all said that they did

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Speaker 3: it first, or before they all said they did it all,

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Speaker 3: we we did it first. Whatever, however you want to

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Speaker 3: do it. Man, you guys peace man. That Moment with

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Speaker 3: Damon John is a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: For more podcasts from the Black Effect Podcast Network, visit

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Speaker 3: your favorite show and don't forget to subscribe to and

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Speaker 3: rate the show, and of course you can all connect

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Speaker 3: with me on any of my social media platforms. At

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Speaker 3: the Shark, Damon spelt like Raymond, but what a d