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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeart Radio Podcast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This

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Speaker 1: is Frosted Tips with me, your host Lance Bass, and

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Speaker 1: my lovely co host, my husband, Turkey Turch. Hello, there

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Speaker 1: go some of you? Sure, some of you, Turkey.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Time we have joshers, we do. Some people are like,

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Speaker 1: when you have an actor on the show, will guess what?

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Speaker 1: He's also a pop singer.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: He started his career as a pop star on the

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Speaker 3: WB's hit series pop.

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Speaker 1: Stars two two after Eaton's crush with Nicole, how do

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Speaker 1: you say your last lesser? No, it's not Nicole slursinger slurs.

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Speaker 1: There's no slurs, Nicole Serzinger, there's no sur either. Nicole Scherzinger. Sure, sure,

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Speaker 1: like a shirt Scherzinger, sure Zinger. Nicole Scherzinger. God, yes,

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Speaker 1: Nicole Scherzinger. Oh, that's easier than what I was trying

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Speaker 1: to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, baby, you saying schlur singer because I have friends

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Speaker 2: with the last name Schlessinger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and so, and it just kind of yeah and

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Speaker 1: it just kind of naturally comes out. But that's way easier.

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Speaker 1: Nicole schure Zinger. Yeah, let's say sure and a zinger Zinger,

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Speaker 1: which was my favorite dessert growing up. So now you know,

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Speaker 1: now you're going to say her name correctly everything. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like you see her all the time too.

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Speaker 1: I do see her. Well, I just did a mass

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Speaker 1: singer with her. I'm not on the show, guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: not on the show, but I'm giving a clue. I

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Speaker 1: always do it every year.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and saying I know.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: The producer was like, oh, Nicole just keeps saying how

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Speaker 1: great the tour was with you guys, And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: pussy got dolls never opened up for us. They weren't

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Speaker 1: even together. I'm like what. I was so confused, and

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Speaker 1: then I realized, crap, she was an Eden's crush. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I had totally forgotten she was an Eaton's crush.

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Speaker 2: Get over yourself. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a ten year old at the time like

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Speaker 1: you were. I was not ten, Nicole. I was like, suresinger,

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Speaker 1: sir Zinger, sure Zinger, sure Zinger, So you have to

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Speaker 1: say zinger, but you say sure singer, Yeah, sure singer. Okay,

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Speaker 1: see I've learned it.

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Speaker 2: You hear that world was that painful for you.

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Speaker 1: It's never going on the show.

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Speaker 2: Pretty painful.

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Speaker 1: You need to get Nicole on the shows?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Ultimately?

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Speaker 1: Hello, she's got two girl bands we can talk about. Yeah, serious,

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Speaker 1: talking about a pop star teen idol? Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's work on that.

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of other teen idols, well there shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: teen idols. I guess I have teen titles for a song.

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Speaker 1: Little is a teen idols? Just lots of teen fans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking more of Cardi.

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Speaker 1: Oh and Cardi Oh because of all this stuffy.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about throwing stuff on stages.

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Speaker 1: Let's not make this a thing.

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Speaker 2: But this is so stupid.

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Speaker 3: People are gonna have to perform in like a poepe

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Speaker 3: mobile from now on and like have a have a

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it really starts to get dangerous, guess what.

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Speaker 1: Your cell phone is gonna be taken. Everything's gonna be taken,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be so boring for you, so boring.

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Speaker 1: So don't throw things on stage. Let's take a little break,

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Speaker 1: we come back. I know this is gonna go long.

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Speaker 1: I can read tell because mister Josh Henderson is here

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Speaker 1: and we need to catch up. Ye known this kid forever,

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Speaker 1: and there's so much I don't know about, especially the

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Speaker 1: music setus was acting. We all have been watching the

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Speaker 1: last Yeah, but I know him from the you know

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Speaker 1: the pop stars, pop star I know, all right, So

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Speaker 1: let's sake a break. When we come back, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have Josh Henderson from Seeing twenty three. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show. All right, the man is here. Josh Henderson's

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Speaker 1: an actor, model, singer, best known for his lead role

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Speaker 1: as John Ross youing the third TNT's Revival. Dallas also

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Speaker 1: and has appeared in films like Step Up. He's got

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Speaker 1: B singing competition pop Stars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah You're you.

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Speaker 1: You watched all those shows of course, Crush Beans, Crush

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Speaker 1: pop Stars too, where he was one of the ones

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Speaker 1: twenty three and I can't wait to talk about Seeing

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Speaker 1: twenty three because it's very short lived and I want

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Speaker 1: to hear all the drama. Mister Josh Henderson. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. So stuck to be here, how

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Speaker 2: we do it.

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Speaker 1: We are ready. I'm glad to have We've known each

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Speaker 1: other for so many years we have, but we really

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Speaker 1: haven't spoken about your pop star day. Sure so most

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Speaker 1: people just know you as the actor. Sure these days,

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Speaker 1: but let's go back. Let's go back. You were from Texas.

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Speaker 1: Where in Texas are you from? Born in Dallas, grew

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Speaker 1: up Mesquite?

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Speaker 1: How far is that from Dallas?

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Speaker 2: About thirty minutes east?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're just right outside Dallas. Did you always

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Speaker 1: know that you wanted to be in entertainment?

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Speaker 2: Uh? So, you know. Look, so I'm growing up. I

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Speaker 2: moved back and forth from from Mesquite, Texas to Tots, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: By the way, our southern accent is coming out, just

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Speaker 1: talking about Texas.

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Speaker 2: And I said, dad, gum it. So anyways, yeah, no, look,

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Speaker 2: I mean I planned on and I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you know this, but but I I had kind of made,

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Speaker 1: I don't know this, Okay, Yeah, that's what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to push my son into. I know you're not supposed

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I mean, look, you know they call it

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Speaker 2: uh uh so anyways, yeah, I mean I got drafted

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Speaker 2: I I graduated high school. My girlfriend at the time,

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Speaker 2: to go to San Francisco. Never been out. I'd never

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Speaker 2: So we land in San Francisco. Day one, we're walking

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Speaker 2: we're auditioning for this show called pop Stars, And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: at my girl and I was like, hey, can I

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Speaker 2: At this point? No one did. Oh wow, okay, So anyways,

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Speaker 2: yet no I looked at her and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: And anyways, we slept on the street and woke up,

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Speaker 2: so it's it's seven cities, right, so you got your

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Speaker 2: So uh, next day we wake up, we got sprayed

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Speaker 2: and and unlike American as so American idol is one

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Speaker 2: like sixty people go in. Five people are on one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: It's your turn. I was terrified, what you sing? What

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Speaker 1: is it one of my songs?

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Speaker 2: What did you say? So funny? Because I'm not connected?

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Speaker 2: Bye bye bye anyway?

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Speaker 1: So it was known for his vocal abilities, by.

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Speaker 2: Funny because I anyways, Yes, that's that's what I started with.

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Speaker 2: So I started with bye bye bye. Out of my

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Speaker 2: saying I believe I can fly by r Kelly. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And I got another call back and I'm going, wait, Daisy,

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Speaker 2: is this for real? All I wanted to do was

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Speaker 2: make it to the dance park because I've been dancing

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Speaker 2: since I was two and a half years old. What

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Speaker 2: you don't know about me is I and this is hilarious.

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Speaker 2: My mother has video. Don't ask me, it's trust me,

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Speaker 2: it's we'll talk to her. I won't World Junest break

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Speaker 2: dancing to Michael Jackson with one white glove on my hand,

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Speaker 1: Can we get on the sample of this put on

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, don't talk to my mother. Mama, my mom.

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Speaker 2: So uh yeah. So I grew up in that camp

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Speaker 2: if I can make it to the dance round, I'll

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Speaker 2: be all right. And I did crazy story. Oh see,

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Speaker 2: I told you long with the longer short of it, like, so,

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Speaker 2: like at least in the city of San Francisco, went

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Speaker 2: from seven thousand to two hundred. That made it to

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Speaker 2: the dance round, right, So I don't know. I'm hyped

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Speaker 2: on seventeen, maybe eight maybe just turned eighteen, and someone says, oh, bitch,

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Speaker 2: And I knew I could jump, So I tried, and

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Speaker 2: I swear it was all in slow motion. I jump,

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Speaker 2: and I remember looking down seeing the camera go over

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Speaker 2: and I'm like looking, look and look, and I come

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Speaker 2: down break my ancle. Oh no, right before the dance part.

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Speaker 2: What I can feel my ankle growing in my hand

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Speaker 2: and now I'm crying, not only because of the pain,

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Speaker 2: So then I had to go to the hospital in

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Speaker 2: then became the drama story of the entire series. It

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Speaker 2: total And so what's crazy is so I go to

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Speaker 2: I'm like, huh, okay, this gets crazier. You guys, good,

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Speaker 5: And uh, you know, look, you know, I'm just saying, like,

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00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 5: you know, there was a lot of talent. You know,

432
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 5: we have some problems with you. So you know I'm

433
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 5: gonna say is you know, unfortunately you're gonna have to

434
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 5: say no to your baseball coach because you made the group.

435
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 2: And I'm like what And then it didn't even hit

436
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: me yet. And then my sister started crying. My baby

437
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 2: sits crying because we're all screaming, so she didn't know

438
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 2: what's wrong. I give Tony a hug, and I'm still

439
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 2: kind of in a daze. And anyways, he and the

440
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 2: camera crew leave and I'm sitting here and I and

441
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: I look and my mom's in the kitchen and I go,

442
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: wait a minute, wait does this mean I have to

443
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: actually do this? I feel like it was fun of it.

444
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: I mean like I was like, wait, she goes, you

445
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: signed the contract and you were going to go be

446
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: a star, And I'm like, wait, but but yeah, is

447
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 2: this for real? In anyways? So I was terrified. Yeah,

448
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: I was terrified because I was going, oh wait, Never

449
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: in my life did I think I was gonna win

450
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: this damn thing. Eighty thousand kids auditioned for that show.

451
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: They picked five, and.

452
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 3: That was like in the early days. That was kind

453
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: of like the first for our like era of like

454
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: of like talent competitions of that scale on TV, like

455
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 3: the American Ninols and stuff like that. There really wasn't anything. Yeah,

456
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 3: no on TV in America.

457
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: Eaton's Crush was two thousand. Yeah, I seen two or

458
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: three poss Stars. Two was two thousand and one, two

459
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: thousand and two. Yeah, American was like the end of

460
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: two thousand and two into two thousand and three when

461
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: Kelly won and and so now I'm flying it. I'm flying.

462
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: And by the way, keep in mind, we knew who

463
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: the final ten were, but we didn't know who's gonna

464
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 2: be in the group. We didn't know who made it

465
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: who didn't, And so they picked us up one at

466
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: a time. At LAX, we had a what what treet?

467
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 2: We on never mind, we were on a strip. Yeah,

468
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: we were on a street called Koy Drive, so Koy

469
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: and uh and Glenn uh, moholland and whatever, and we'ren't

470
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: And so they put us in a six storehouse. We

471
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: each had our on floor and then the other floor

472
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: was for our house mom because now we're in a group.

473
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: But the show hadn't even started airing yet to even

474
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: begin much less to let people know the audience know

475
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: who won, right, So thirteen episode series people found out

476
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: who won or who made the group in episode ten

477
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: and then episode eleven was us rehearsing for tour.

478
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: Wow, they they had to wait till the very end

479
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: of the season to see.

480
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: We called it pop Stars Prison. I was in that house.

481
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: And there's no social media too, so no, it shouldn't

482
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: be too.

483
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: Hard to keep the secret at that And none of

484
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: us have cell phones, so we had a house phone

485
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: because they needed to control who we were talking to,

486
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: because what if I just you know, called the principal

487
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: of my high school, be like I wand pop Stars

488
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 2: Josh Henderson, you know, they go on the inter So

489
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: they were like monitoring on our calls. We didn't have

490
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: the internet. We couldn't have you know, we called the

491
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 2: Pop Stars Prison. How was this?

492
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: This was this two months.

493
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: Almost a year? I'm like, oh my real, So so

494
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: I used to sneak. I used to sneak out of

495
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: the house just to go on runs, just to run,

496
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, I was like, I

497
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: got to get out of this house. So I'd like,

498
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: but I did pick. So I picked level two, which

499
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: was actually on the ground level, and I had a

500
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: hot tub right outside of my door, so I picked

501
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: the right one. The girls were all like three, four

502
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: or five whatever, So it was it was three girls,

503
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: two boys, and we called the pop Stars Prison. And

504
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: at least they gave me an xbox so I could

505
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: at least kind of when we weren't doing anything, do something.

506
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: So they would do our grocery shopping. So what was

507
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 2: cool about that was is we had an unlimited budget.

508
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: So your country boys going, hey can I get crawfish,

509
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: snow crab legs, filets?

510
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: You make that plane money back in food?

511
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: What did you do with your relationship at that point?

512
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: Because you go from her flying, you out being there

513
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: and then you go disappear for a year.

514
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was rough.

515
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: That couldn't have been easy.

516
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: Well, no, it was the demise of our relations. Yeah. Yeah, again,

517
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: she didn't think I was gonna win this. Dad, Yeah,

518
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: neither did I.

519
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, He's like, where's my ten percent?

520
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: Kidding? No, So I hadn't seen her in ten months.

521
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen anybody that I loved the ten months.

522
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: Let's let's keep mine nine to eleven happened at that

523
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: point where I didn't know. I mean, I was so

524
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: kind of in my own world. I didn't even know

525
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: what the twin towers were. But two of the girls

526
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: in our group from New York, so they were freaking out.

527
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: That was a weird time. And all you want to

528
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: do is be with your family because it was a

529
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: very weird time in our country, and you know, I'm

530
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: stuck in his house and I can't even you know,

531
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: for the most part, go outside. And uh So it

532
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: was a weird time, but hilarious story when we let's

533
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: cut to one that when when they finally announced made

534
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: the group, it would have been almost eleven months after

535
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: we moved into the house, So that was the first

536
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: man that we could actually go out as the group, right,

537
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: And the guy that I slept on the street next to.

538
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: His name is Nate and he's still one of my

539
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: best friends. That's the only way I met him is

540
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: because he and I auditioned together. Now he's a terrible singer,

541
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: so he didn't, you know, get a call back, but uh,

542
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: he's still a great friend of mine to this day.

543
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: But so our first appearance was at this mall in Riverside, California,

544
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: as the group R and Nate lived in side. So

545
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: he had the producer that he called the producer producer

546
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: hands on my phone and I'm like yo, and he's like, Yo,

547
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: do you guys almost here? And I'm like, yeah, I

548
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: think so, I don't know we're going anywhere. And he goes,

549
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: I go how many people are there? And he goes,

550
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: there's like twenty people here, dude. And I was like, yeah, dude, awesome,

551
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: we're famous. Bro. That was an absolute fabrication. We pull

552
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: up and there's a line wrapped around the entire mall

553
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: because I can see it because we're like going around

554
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: and I'm going, what who are they here for? I

555
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: was like, what is going on? I was like, who's here?

556
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: And it's all on camera And as soon as I

557
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: step out, which you're very familiar with, I stepped out,

558
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, it was just like mayhem.

559
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: And it was a shock because keep in mind, I'd

560
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 2: been living in a house for eleven months and was

561
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: kind of like in this little bubble. Now I come

562
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: out as a different human being, and all of a sudden,

563
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm signing babies, I love job. I mean like I'm

564
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: and it's weird. It was very, very weird. It was

565
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: weird because it was like an overnight thing, right, Like

566
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: it didn't kind of warm up to where we were

567
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: doing these little things, and all of a sudden, the

568
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: kind of crowd. No, it was like the next day

569
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: we did a little radio appearance and we showed up

570
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: with this mall. I think four thousand people showed up

571
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: with that mall, and I'm sitting there and they would

572
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: always put me in the middle. There's five of us

573
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: that put me in the middle, which was actually kind

574
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: of a problem because it quickly and don't I don't

575
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: give a hell, I'm not tooting my own horn. But

576
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: it quickly became like people were there to see me

577
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: and not maybe some of the other people in the group.

578
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: And it's a little weird, right, And so now it's

579
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: where day one, there's an animosity kind of starting and

580
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm going my hands. I don't know, I don't know

581
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: what we're doing, just like you know whatever. And then

582
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: we went on this Mayhem Press tour and we went

583
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: from there to the Mall America. Six thousand people showed

584
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: up All America. I'm assuming you did. Have you done

585
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: them All American thing where there's like levels of people?

586
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: Oh yes, one of our first performances there. And in fact,

587
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: it's a very famous story. Oh please that and I

588
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: think they have this on vid. Yes, because the guys

589
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: who ended up doing this came out just a couple

590
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: of years ago and admitted it. Anyway, we got water

591
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: balloons tossed at us from the second level, and you

592
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: would have thought that it was nine to eleven because

593
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: the security and every like it. It's like someone who's

594
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: been shooting at us or something. It was just a

595
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: water blow. Just a kid got dared to throw a

596
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: water balloon, right like whatever, and uh so, but everyone

597
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: freaks out, get us out of there quickly as possible.

598
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: That the fans go nuts. I mean it is like

599
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: Mayhem and this kid who just a few years ago

600
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 1: admitted is like, I'm the guy. What he was like,

601
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: I never told a soul because I thought I was

602
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: going to go to prison. And you know, he just

603
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: he was doing an interview or something. I just heard

604
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: him talk about it. He was like, I'm I'm the

605
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: guy that did I'm never told anyone this, but yeah,

606
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: they could never find the kids who did it. Is

607
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: such a Yeah. So that was my mall with America.

608
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: Wow, craziness. I assume I assume that you had you

609
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: had done that before, and that was our second appearance.

610
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: We flew there before, we did TRL and everything else

611
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: what you're very familiar with. But we didn't know what

612
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: to expect. And this is the biggest mall in you know,

613
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: in America. It is the biggest. It's the name. It's

614
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: a good man who came up with that all of America. Yeah,

615
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: and and uh it was insane because I literally I

616
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: was I was coming out of like again then this

617
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: little little hole that I was in for eleven months

618
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: and now I'm in this world that is not familiar

619
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: to me at all. So I'm getting screamed at, tears,

620
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: ripped clothes, and I'm going this can't be the whole time.

621
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm floating, going this yeah, this can't be real, right,

622
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: And then we get to New York and we that

623
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: was when Regis was still alive. So it was Regis

624
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: and Kelly t r L did Today Show and everything else,

625
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: and we're doing our whole by the way, yes, now

626
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: I did her on I didn't do her that the

627
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: show Kathy and Hode Yeah where they drink or whatever

628
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: you know, and so yes, but uh no, it was

629
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: Kelly from from the get go at least when I

630
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: had started, uh that whole journey, and I was, I

631
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: was in sheer disbelief. And what's crazy is is that

632
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: was right before Christmas and we all went home for

633
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: Christmas and I get a phone call from the producers

634
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: of the show and they were like, your regular befolded,

635
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: You're done and I'm going. So that's how it ended.

636
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was only like a year correct released

637
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: one song.

638
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: What's crazy? We were supposed to go on tour with

639
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: you guys.

640
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: No way because Etan's Crush came on tour with us.

641
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: Johnny Wright was supposed to manage us. It was a

642
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: whole thing. Dude, Our past are so like this.

643
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: But we and that was right that that was our

644
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: last tour that we didn't know was the last tour.

645
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: So as we were going out, y'all were just coming in.

646
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, and uh and we were so excited. You know,

647
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: we met with Johnny Rridy came into our rehearsals and

648
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: uh that's a whole nother story, but you know. So

649
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: now I'm sitting at home on Christmas and uh, I

650
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: get the phone call and you know, I'm again I'm

651
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: actually standing at the girl that started its whole journey

652
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: and uh, and I go, well, I don't know what

653
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: to do. I guess I'm gonna go back to baseball.

654
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: Maybe that maybe it wasn't meant to be, Like did

655
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: that even happen? You know what I mean? And so, uh,

656
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: I called the coach at at the University of Texas

657
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, you might have me now

658
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: and he was like give it a second, you know,

659
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: but you're good. You can come, you know, come back whenever.

660
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: And I don't want to singing sissy all my take

661
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: your dance move.

662
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna do the Harlem shake at shortstop.

663
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: So uh, two days later, I get a call from

664
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: the producers again they said, hey, you know these people

665
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: want to meet you out here in l A. And

666
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: I was like, oh okay, now, like we're gonna fly

667
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: you out. We're sorry what happened. And I was like,

668
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 2: all right, cool. So I flew out and met with agents.

669
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know what an agent was. I had no idea.

670
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: So I met with William Morris.

671
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, just all bloods by the way.

672
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: I met with William Morrison Innovative Artists. Right, So these

673
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: two companies and one of them scared the ship out

674
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: of me. The other one was super, super super nice.

675
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: So I went with the super nice people because I

676
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: still didn't know what I was doing here. And they

677
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: were like, we want you to just try to be

678
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: an actor. And I'm like, well, okay, you know what

679
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: I mean, like I'll try.

680
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: And at this point, have you ever acted before?

681
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: Of course? Now?

682
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like you never did theater or that kind

683
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: of stuff, nothing at all, No, and you had the

684
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: it factor.

685
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Well what's crazy is is that was him. That was

686
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: like beginning of March two thousand and two. Within three

687
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: weeks to the day, I get a call from her

688
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: and she goes so I got good news and bad news,

689
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay. She was like, so you

690
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: book the lead of a show, you book the lead

691
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: of a movie, and you booked a print out for

692
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: Sketchers And I go, wait what? She was like, you

693
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: can do Sketchers, but you can't do the movie and

694
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: the TV show. You need to do a TV show

695
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: because it's a pilot and the movie's just you know,

696
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: shooting in Rome. But the show, if it goes, we

697
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: need She was like, you're doing okay. I was like,

698
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: whatever you say. I couldn't believe it. Right, all of

699
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: a sudden, I came from literally nothing to like making

700
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: a decent amount of money in one day, and I'm going,

701
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: why the hell doesn't everybody do this? Like is this

702
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 2: for real? Now? It's not that easy. I was very

703
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: very lucky, very blessed, and that started a twenty one

704
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: year acting career that is still going on today.

705
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: It's so all.

706
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: All from hopping in a line, getting hit by a

707
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: street cleaner, sleeping in San Francisco and just taking a

708
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: chance to maybe try to get on TV and hear

709
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: him twenty years later, twenty one years later, living in

710
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: LA and uh, talk on to you.

711
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so crazy and you hear like fun

712
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: stories like this all the time, but they are very rare,

713
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: very rare does anything like that happen? So, man, that

714
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: is that is so interesting. I when when y'all ended

715
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: the group, were y'all still friends? Was there any friction

716
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: in the group? Would that have ended the.

717
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: How was the matter? What? How was the dynamic within.

718
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: This because it's hard to put a group together, you know,

719
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: and y'all did live with each other, So that's good

720
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good test to see if

721
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: you actually can stand each other. But man, I mean

722
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: it is a crapshoot if you know, all the group

723
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: members are going to get along.

724
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's it's not like if I'm

725
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: familiar in your group. I feel like some of you

726
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: guys knew each other and some of you didn't.

727
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, two of the guys want to make a mouse club.

728
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Two of the guys worked at Universal Studio, okay, and

729
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: two of those guys, so everyone knew each other except me.

730
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I knew Justin Threw a vocal coach, but we had

731
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: never met. So yeah, I was the only one that

732
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: hadn't met any of them, but they had all met

733
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: each other before.

734
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I love that. I didn't exactly know the

735
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: dynamic to that, but I felt like I kind of

736
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: knew that there was what you just did it.

737
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: And then Christopher Patrick was like, I'm going to put

738
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: a band together one because he didn't he did an

739
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: audition for Backtory Boys and he was like because Howie

740
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: was in his course class in college and he's like, well,

741
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: how does Howie get in this group? And I didn't

742
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: even know about the audition, Like this is bullshit, and

743
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: uh so he fell in loop earl and he's like, well,

744
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: if I put a band together, can will you support us?

745
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: And I was like sure, And that's when he found

746
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: Justin and d C and then Joey and then me

747
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, he put.

748
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: Wow, man, that's crazy. So our dynamic was slightly different

749
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: considering that we were just all kids that hopping in

750
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: the line and maybe trying to potentially just get on TV.

751
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: Now five of us landing in the house together, we

752
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: didn't none of us had previous relationships, so it's not

753
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: like we knew each other. Yeah, so yeah, it was

754
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: a little weird, right, like, you know, like we're separated

755
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: from our families, we can't necessarily even talk to anyone.

756
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: But now we have to be best friends.

757
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Correct, And you know, and there's cameras waking us up

758
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: in the morning because it was a TV show at

759
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: the same time.

760
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what I talked to the Otown guys

761
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: about this. This is the beginning of you know, it

762
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: was making the band pop stars. This is before American Idol.

763
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: No one really had a reference of television with music, correct,

764
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: most at that point. Everyone was just all about, this

765
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: is how you get a record deal, this is what

766
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: you have to do. But no one put the television

767
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: element behind it all, which is so different. So how

768
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: did you deal with that, especially someone that had no

769
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: aspirations of going into acting at all? How did you

770
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: deal with that part of it?

771
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it, like even on American Idol, right,

772
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: cameras don't follow them home and wake them up, right, Yeah,

773
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: they just are there on the stage when you're singing,

774
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: and that's all that brother type. It was like real

775
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: world Big Brother. But big Brother is a great, great example.

776
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 2: But we're also like, you know, not competing. We're already

777
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: we already all won. But we're also like, okay, now

778
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: we're kind of married in this pop group relationship, And

779
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: how do we do this, because it's not like, oh,

780
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: I've been in a pop before this. No, we were

781
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: all you know, babies, you know, and so yeah, I

782
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: mean I'm saying like boom boom, boom boom, and I'm

783
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: in bed and like there's a camera waking me up. Hey,

784
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: Jo the producer. By then we're going, Josh, just tell

785
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: us what we're doing today, And I'm like, what are

786
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: we doing? I have no idea what we're doing. What

787
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? And I'm going, oh, okay, okay,

788
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: please hold on.

789
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: I haven't had a little experience of that because when

790
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: I did Dance with the Stars, like fifty years ago, okay,

791
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: it was the first time that I had ever done

792
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: anything reality, right, them showing up at five in the

793
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: morning at your house when you're so tired or did

794
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: they come at your house? Oh yeah, I mean they're

795
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: just you know, and they want you so tired that

796
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: you say something sure, And so it got to the

797
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: point I'm like.

798
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: I see you in reality.

799
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: What's the drama? Like I don't have drama, Like I

800
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: don't live in drama. But I got to the point

801
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, what do you want me to say,

802
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: I will say whatever you want me to say if

803
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: you can just get done with this, Like, what drama

804
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: do you want? I'll say it?

805
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: What what? What?

806
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: What do you want me to hate my partner? Let's

807
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: just do it right now. But I'm like, but yeah,

808
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: you just so produced.

809
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: I got really good, very quickly at playing to the

810
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: camera without actually knowing the camera was there. I learned

811
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: that very quickly, which I think, for whatever reason, maybe

812
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: helped in me becoming an actor. But but I'll never

813
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: forget as soon as I saw the cameras, I'm going, okay,

814
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: all right, hey, guys, so we got to really talk

815
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: about like I don't know, what's your group name? Gonna be, like,

816
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: what do you guys? Like?

817
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: We hadn't even thought about this yet, but we definitely

818
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: didn't decide the name two weeks ago.

819
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, then I'm like that I got it, relaxed you,

820
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't need you. But you know, I got pretty

821
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: good at that pretty quickly, to where that they realized

822
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: the guy that could actually kind of move the story

823
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: along without looking like it was me. And I just

824
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: got good at playing to the camera. And I don't

825
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: know why, but then clearly, you know, I ended up

826
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: being in front of the camera for for half of

827
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: my life now. But but you know it, it's so

828
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: you know, here we are and and we didn't all

829
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: get along, right. So, uh, there's a there's a kid

830
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: named Donovan, and I swear this guy was like Michael

831
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: Jackson reincarnated. He's incredible and we all knew in the

832
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: in the audition process and we all got to the

833
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: final twenty five, Donovan was like picking up the choreography,

834
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: one take the whole damn song and we're going, wait.

835
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: There's one guy.

836
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: We're like, what is the magician? Uh? He was incredible

837
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: and he was a gorgeous singer, incredible dance, he was

838
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: about so we all knew he was gonna win, right,

839
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: and he did, and he was kind of the lead.

840
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: I didn't care. I was like, yo, I'm still learning

841
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: to do all this. You're in the group. Who cares?

842
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: But quickly I became the focal point of the group

843
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: pretty quickly, and so then all the things all of

844
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: a sudden, they're like giving me his parts and stuff,

845
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: and then that created animosity. Yeah, and then the girls

846
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: are like, well we're here too. But at that time,

847
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: and in general, boy bands are usually girls liked to,

848
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: you know, freak out, and they might not care about

849
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: the girls, but they like maybe those boys and that.

850
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: So yes, stuff got a little weird pretty quickly. But

851
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: I was always just a guy going I don't care.

852
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: You got give them the parts, you know whatever. But

853
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: things evolved the way they do, and.

854
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: He getting away. How dy'all come up with the name

855
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: scenes twenty three?

856
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: It's a good story. We were, you know, they brought

857
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: a camera in. We're all sitting on the couch in

858
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: the living room.

859
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 5: And they're like, okay, guys, listen, we just need you

860
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 5: guys to like that, how to chat about you know

861
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 5: what maybe maybe what your names are, your ideas.

862
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: So we all we all have like a you know,

863
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: like a spiral in a pin, and and we were

864
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: coming up with the craziest name. Now you have to

865
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: clear a name, right, it has to clear. We didn't

866
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: know what that meant, so I will you know what,

867
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm raising my hand like it wait does that thing

868
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: on that? Okay? I was like, wait, guys, I don't know.

869
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: We're all from different scenes in backgrounds. There's two boys,

870
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: three girls. Why don't we just say scene twenty three?

871
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, and they they they

872
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: everyone agreed and it cleared. And so that's how the

873
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: name yeah came up with a name I did.

874
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the alternative names? Cause I love what

875
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: bands could have been.

876
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: I love knowing that, like, uh, have it, get out

877
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: of our way, we're gonna stop face. It was like

878
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: the most you know, like the most ciche, like you know, yeah,

879
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: like like I know, we came up like two hundred

880
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: that did not clear, and I'm like, wait, what is

881
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: there a flower shop in Gardenia that is called like

882
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: you know, like we rock? What's going on? But anyways,

883
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: Seene twenty three cleared and that was a part of

884
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: one of the episodes and and uh yeah, so it

885
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: ended and I was like, okay, so I don't you know,

886
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: I guess I'm gonna go back to baseball, And like

887
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: I told you, I ended up getting an agent and

888
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: then book jobs and then everything just happened very quickly

889
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: in my life.

890
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: Now was that show Desperate Housewives? Like when did you

891
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: jump into despert Housewives?

892
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: So I so my first role that I booked what

893
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: should have been March of two thousand and two. It

894
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: was a pilot it didn't go and really quick stupid

895
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: side story, the agents that I met went, they were like, well,

896
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: we want you to be here for pilot season, and

897
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: I swear on my life, I go, well, I know

898
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: nothing about flying planes, but if that's what you guys

899
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: want me to do, I mean, I'm here. And they

900
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: all lost their mind.

901
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: You faked everything else. I was like, why not give

902
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: me in that cockpit, let's do that.

903
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: It was three women in the room and they all

904
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 2: lost their minds and I was like this. I was like, Okay,

905
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: what the fuck are they laughing at what? They're like, No,

906
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 2: pilots are They're a television show before it goes to TV,

907
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: and I.

908
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: Go, which, there isn't even a pilot season anymore.

909
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: No, there's not. And I go, well, why is it

910
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: called a pilot? I don't get it, and they're like,

911
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. So anyways, so the first show

912
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: was called Prep for the WB, which probably helped that.

913
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: I was on the WB pop Stars, so I kind

914
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: of had an end issue. So I was already kind

915
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: of a face on the network. So that happened, and

916
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: then I booked a show called One on One, which

917
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: was a sitcom on Upon which is in CWM, and

918
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: I did it for two seasons. That's the only way

919
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: I survived in this time. I think I was you know,

920
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: I was making bare minimum, but it was enough for

921
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: me to survive and pay my rent. But I was

922
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: also getting a pilot every year, right, so then there

923
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: was a thing back in the day not anymore called

924
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: a quote. So if you did the last pilot this

925
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: on no literally, you know what's crazy about this industry?

926
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: Now there's the reason why we're on strike. Uh Now

927
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: they go, we don't care what your quote is.

928
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: This is what we're offering, exactly. And everyone worked, especially

929
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: in my generation, you work so hard to get your

930
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: quote up of your whole entire career, and then all

931
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: of a sudden that's just ripped away. It's it's insane.

932
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous what people get paid in this industry. And

933
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people like that are not

934
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: in the business, like oh, millionaire problems. Ninety nine percent

935
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: is just like any other business in the world. They

936
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: make nothing. The rest are just getting pennies.

937
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: In Literally, you're exactly right, because I built up a

938
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: quote for twenty years and the last test I did,

939
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: you know, and most people probably want to understand this,

940
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 2: but a quote is a quote. Whatever. They're like, well,

941
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: we can't ask you what you're quote is, but this

942
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: is what we're offering.

943
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: Favor nations, favor nations every these favorite nations what.

944
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: So anyways, So yes, so uh pilot every year. And

945
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: then my first pilot to get picked up was actually

946
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: only two years after that, so four, and it was

947
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: it was a show called over There, and I don't

948
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: know if y'all have heard of that, but it's the

949
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: most critically acclaimed war series of all time, even more

950
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: than Band of Brothers. And I was a lead over

951
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: there Stephen Botchko, who is now passed, but bless his heart,

952
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: he is crazy, right, So, oh my god, this is

953
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm giving you guys all the nuggets. Me and Channing

954
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: Tatum are sitting next to each other. Cut to two

955
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: years later, we're in Step Up together, but and we're

956
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: auditioning for the show cald over There. We're in the

957
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: Stephen Bochco building on the Fox lot. And you know,

958
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 2: I didn't know who Stephen Bochcow was. He's the biggest

959
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: producer of all time when it comes to television. And

960
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: I do my read first read. Chris Jeromo was our writer.

961
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: He wrote missis CP burning Oscar winning writer, so we

962
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: knew that the pedigree of the show. So it was

963
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: pretty nervous. And I did my read and this old,

964
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: older gentleman comes down and and he goes, Josh, come

965
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: here and talk to me real quing. And I was like, yes, sir,

966
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: and he goes, do you want to do this show?

967
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: And I go yeah, yet, yes I do. And he

968
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: was like okay, and I go okay, and he goes,

969
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: it's yours. I was like, what do you mean and

970
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: he goes, the show's yours. I'm Stephen Botska. How you doing?

971
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: I go wait, so it's He goes, yeah, I don't

972
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: even call your agent. I'll call him.

973
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: It's yours.

974
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: And I go wait, So one audition I have to

975
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: test for it. Nothing and and the crazy thing about

976
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 2: this entire story, so that that was the catalyst for

977
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: my acting career. That that show, and I knew how

978
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: hardcore the show is going to be. You got by

979
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: the way, you guys should watch It's really hardcore and

980
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: get your tissues ready. It's hardcore, and it was very

981
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: real because it was it was the first show worshow ever,

982
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: that had that had happened while an act to a

983
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: war that we were doing the show about, and it's ongoing, right,

984
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: Man of Brothers was about I think World War two.

985
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: You know, things have been done about Vietnam whatever, but

986
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: this war was still going on. And my agent caused me, goes.

987
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 4: Oh, she had watched Coaches call me you got the ship.

988
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: And you know what. I said, I can't do it.

989
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: I can't do it. She goes, what, No, It's like,

990
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: I can't do this. It's too much. It's too much.

991
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: I've got family that have died in the military. I

992
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: can't do this. This is too real. I can't do it.

993
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm I don't. I don't. I don't think I can

994
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 2: live up to this. I'm I can't do it. She goes,

995
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. You're doing the show, and I go,

996
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I can do this. No, I'm serious,

997
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is terrifying. Up to that point,

998
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: I just played the boyfriends and the kids in the

999
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: family like the sun. You know, I knew what I

1000
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: read the script and I knew what was going to happen,

1001
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: not only to my character, but so she goes I'm

1002
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: not letting you see know to this and I go, well,

1003
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: you know what, to be honest, it's not your choice.

1004
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm terrified. I do not want to not do this

1005
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 2: role justice because I'm scared, and she goes, I'm gonna

1006
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: have Steven and Chris call you tonight. I'm not saying

1007
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: no yet, and I go, okay. So Chris Jerramo and

1008
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: Stephen Boschko both got on the phone and I just

1009
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: expressed my concerns. I said, look, I am so flattered

1010
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: and feel so blessed you guys want me to do this,

1011
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: but I have to be honest. I'm really scared to

1012
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: represent the tens of thousands of women's the tens of

1013
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: thousands of men and women that are overseas doing this

1014
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: and dying for a country right now, because it's real

1015
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: and this kind of really intimidates me. And they understood,

1016
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 2: and they said, that's exactly why we want you to

1017
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: do this role, because we need you to be exactly

1018
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: who you are. And they convinced me to do it,

1019
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: and I did it, and I got nominated for an

1020
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: Emmy for the show. And it was really hardcore and

1021
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: when I dive into something, my emotions. You know, look,

1022
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: maybe you don't know this moment. Never met my father.

1023
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: I got a lot of dark stuff in my past,

1024
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: and I grew up in a community where there were

1025
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: bars on my windows and I was raising my siblings

1026
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: and I was terrified every day of my life. So

1027
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: I have a lot of dark stuff to pull from,

1028
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: and I pulled it all for that show. And I

1029
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: am so emotionally crazy in that show. And you know what,

1030
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: that's what then allowed me to go, oh, wait, you

1031
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: can do this acting thing. You can do it. You

1032
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: can do it, And that led to same casting people.

1033
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: Two Desperate Housewives after that's fazy. It's as an actor

1034
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: having those struggles, you know, growing up definitely adds to

1035
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: everything that you bring to the screen. And a lot

1036
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: of the times people are like, you know, can look back, Andy, God,

1037
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: I hate that I went through that, or wow, my

1038
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: life you know, sucked in. But you have to look

1039
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: at the silver linings come out of that too, and yeah,

1040
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: what you had to go through as a kid was shit,

1041
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, and you know it probably probably like shit,

1042
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: my life is shit. But what it led to and

1043
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: all that withinside you, that's what Botchko and those people

1044
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: saw that vulnerability.

1045
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: They saw it when I didn't. Yeah, and you're exactly right.

1046
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm telling you right now when

1047
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: I look at the big picture, and the picture's not

1048
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: done right, But to this point, I know for a

1049
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: fact that I went through a hell and terrible terrible things,

1050
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: you know, terrible things that they're just we're not even

1051
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: going there. But it put everything in me not only

1052
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: have the ability to bury it and never try to

1053
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: touch or access it until all of a sudden I

1054
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: land in the arts and now I'm in roles to

1055
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: where I need to go ahead and potentially bring that

1056
00:51:53,680 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: shit up exactly and literally I'm an intense, really am

1057
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: and and you know, I'm not that dude that like

1058
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: carries it with me through the whole production. As soon

1059
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: as they say cut and I go home, I'm happy,

1060
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: go lucky. H But when they say action, I'm a

1061
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 2: crazy moment.

1062
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, that's a lot of my friends that

1063
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: are actors and you know, maybe going through something really hard,

1064
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, like a death of a family members like that,

1065
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: and you know, and once I get real distraught, you know,

1066
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: always make them see them like you know what you're

1067
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: feeling out like feel it like you're supposed to feel this,

1068
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: it's totally normal. But know that you're going to be

1069
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: able to use this emotion in your work in the future.

1070
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: So just know that, like what you're going through right

1071
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: now is only going to make you such a better,

1072
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: bigger person. And a lot of them can be like, yeah,

1073
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: you're right, like in the moment, they're not thinking that way,

1074
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: but like a few years later, like yes, I was

1075
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: so glad that I was able to remember that emotion

1076
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: and like feel that emotion and not try to hide

1077
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: it correct.

1078
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also not try to fabricate it. And you know,

1079
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: I've got so many, so many friends and acquaintances that

1080
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: that have spent so much money and all these things

1081
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: on acting classes, and I don't necessarily I don't. I

1082
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: don't say that those were wrong. I've never taken an

1083
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: acting class in my life. Now, that's just my that's

1084
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: just my path.

1085
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: It works for some people sometimes it kind of runs

1086
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: you correct.

1087
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean, look, if in my own thought, right,

1088
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: if you have to be taught how to act, not

1089
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: good luck, because that's not a that's not a positive

1090
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: thing to tell someone. But but I understand that. But

1091
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: for me, I just I just have a switch and

1092
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: as soon as I need to turn it on, no

1093
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: matter what the role is. I mean, I just I

1094
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: just go there and I know how to do it now.

1095
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: I had like audited a few classes and stuff in

1096
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: between seasons just to like try to go and mingle

1097
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: with my peers and whatever. And I'm sitting there going,

1098
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, these people are paying money for this stuff,

1099
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: Like what are they doing? Like I mean, like what,

1100
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm sitting going I don't understand. And then you know,

1101
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: my homies, we'll hang out and I'll be like, listen, dude,

1102
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 2: like everything that we just did in this read, throw

1103
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: that away because you look like a robot. Might just

1104
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: be yourself. Apply yourself to the role, and all you

1105
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: need to be is natural and believable. That's it.

1106
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: That's true. And a lot of people think they have

1107
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: to play another character when all you have to do

1108
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: is bring in your own self, and that's what they

1109
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: want to see. And it's the easiest thing.

1110
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, who could you be? Who could you be?

1111
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: Better than yourself? He So apply yourself to the character,

1112
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: whatever that character is, find that marriage, and then just

1113
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: do it without thinking. If you got to think too much.

1114
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: You already lost They that's good advice right there. Let's

1115
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: talk a little desperate housewise, Austin mccannon, the Rebellious Nephew,

1116
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: the bad Boy, What was your experience on that show,

1117
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: because that, I mean, was the biggest show.

1118
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: In the world at the time, and I'll never forget.

1119
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: I went in to read from Mark Cherry, and the

1120
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: two casting people that put me in over there the

1121
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: show we just talked about were there, and I knew

1122
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: that I kind of had an end and I had

1123
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: a great read and I was making them laugh and

1124
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: doing like all this improv stuff. And sure enough, before

1125
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: I got home, they called and said, hey, you're on

1126
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: the show. And I was like, this was so this

1127
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: would have been season two, right and then season three.

1128
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: So I got and it was already a massive hit,

1129
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: and I go, okay. And by the way, I live

1130
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: right across the street on a street called Bluff Side,

1131
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 2: and so Universal was right there. And my agent cause

1132
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, so okay, So I okay, so I'm

1133
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: on the show. So I'm okay at Universal, we're doing this.

1134
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, you're doing this, and I go,

1135
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: so day one, I didn't even have to drive. I

1136
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: would I would take my longboard, my skateboard, and I

1137
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: would just skate over that little bridge that goes over

1138
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: the one on one and right into the gate. And

1139
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: I became good friends with the guy that did the

1140
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: little arm thing with the cars and everything.

1141
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: Is that why Mark lives right there? Did he move

1142
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: to that neighborhood?

1143
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: Have you been to his house to look like one?

1144
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: That's what it was. We were used to be one

1145
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: to look at. Yeah, we were.

1146
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: There was the Johan's brother's house.

1147
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: That's was it before? Neighborhood by the way slot and

1148
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: by the way you guys live, because that's my dream neighborhood.

1149
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 2: It's a move.

1150
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: The best Halloween ever is that psychotic marker Christmas Well

1151
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: Mark Cherry does every year it's a different Halloween and

1152
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: he uses like you know, Golden Girls or all these

1153
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: shows he sure he did, you know, Desperate Housewives and

1154
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: he does this like skeleton thing in the front yard.

1155
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: That neighborhood goes over the top. We still like. I

1156
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: took my kids last year and they're not even enough

1157
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: to trigger treat. Had to take him there just so

1158
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: they could see the crazy.

1159
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: You can actually move into that neighborhood unless you're a

1160
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: festive mother.

1161
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: You have to you have to get full candy bars.

1162
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

1163
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: Chi Okay taking her skateboard in the Universal.

1164
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I became buddies with the guy again.

1165
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: I'd wave and go hey, Josh, and I just skateboard

1166
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: right past and they picked me up in the event

1167
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: and take me up to Wosteria. What was great about

1168
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: that show was a it was exciting. It was a

1169
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: lot of energy and and and you know hype around

1170
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: the show, which is always fun. You want to feel

1171
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: like at least what you're doing is being seen and

1172
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: appreciated and loved. So we're we're up with Wisteria, which

1173
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: is above like Jaws and all those other little rides

1174
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 2: you know at Universal and still there five times, yeah,

1175
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: it is five times a day, Like you know, the

1176
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: the tourists will come in and we'd have to stop

1177
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: and it all scream. We'd wave so out of this

1178
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: like energy element. Like I'm sitting here my you know my,

1179
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: because I'm somewhat narcoleptic. That's a whole nother story. And

1180
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: I'm sitting a falling asleep in my chair and then

1181
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: all of a sudden and you're like, oh, there's people

1182
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: in energy and people like us, so let's go to work.

1183
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: But I would also always I was known as a

1184
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: guy like I would steal the golf call. Like I

1185
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: would see a golf card, I'd steal it, and I

1186
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: drive all the way down. And if I knew that

1187
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: we had like two or three scenes in between my

1188
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: next oh I had a little pass and my picture

1189
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: on it a little and I would literally just cruise down.

1190
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: There was a back gate and I'd go on a

1191
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: ride rock like on my lunch break. I mean, I'm

1192
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: getting paid for this, you know what I mean? Like

1193
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: it was incredible, right, And also when I when I

1194
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: get it whenever I you know, like when you're the

1195
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 2: lead of the show, it is it's hardcore. Yeah, okay,

1196
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: Like and I've done that many a time. When you're

1197
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: the leading show, you ain't got no breaks. Now, if

1198
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: you're just a kid on a show called Desperate Housewives

1199
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: and you're not a Desperate housewife.

1200
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: You got some time off, I'll hurry up and wait.

1201
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I mean to the point where a

1202
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: lot of times I'd fall asleep in my trailer and

1203
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: wake up and it'd be nighttime and I'd go, oh,

1204
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: open my door, go hello, everyone's gone. They would forget

1205
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: about me, meaning like I'm so low in the total ball,

1206
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: no one really can tell me. Look, at least had

1207
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: my skateboard. So I get home. So uh yeah, no literally,

1208
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: uh And it was great because you know, it was

1209
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: time off, but it was also I was you know,

1210
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: I was I was having fun and I was universal

1211
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: and and you know, my life changed overnight. That was

1212
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: probably that was six or seven o eight, So that's

1213
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: back when the club seem was still fun.

1214
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: It's so funny because you say, like six, you know,

1215
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: my timeline is so messed up with that eraror because

1216
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: it all just starts to blend. I could have sworn

1217
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: Desperate House Whileves is on two thousand and three, Like

1218
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: I like, I just feel like that was the time

1219
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: it was on.

1220
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: But it was a star. It started in uh oh

1221
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: four oh five. Yeah, I was seasons two and three,

1222
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: so six, seven into eight. Then the Rider's strike happened,

1223
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: or I would have been in the show for the

1224
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: entire run.

1225
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: Really strike to get me started, And I'm sure it's

1226
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: affecting you right now too.

1227
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: Yes, So I'll never forget Mark. Mark Cherry called me

1228
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: and he was like, hey, Josh so wants to strike back.

1229
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna be back on the show. And I was like, heck, yeah,

1230
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: that's awesome. And anyways, my writers didn't come back, so

1231
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: I didn't come back, and that's okay. Everything has for

1232
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: a reason. Yeah, and that was all right, and they

1233
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: went on to do I think nine seasons or whatever.

1234
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: But I had I had a fun little run and

1235
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: my life change overnight. I mean when that show hit

1236
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 2: and my character came out. I mean in this town

1237
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: and then the rest of the world, all of a sudden,

1238
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: the floodgates open to the rest of the world. I'm talking.

1239
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's South of France or South

1240
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: America or Australia or wherever. You're invited everywhere. And I

1241
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: was just going, you know, it's kind of almost like

1242
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: that pop stars movement again, I'm gone, is this week?

1243
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

1244
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? And great run a ton of fun. Well,

1245
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: Steria is great. It's a little weird because I was

1246
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: the guy hooking up with all the young girls on

1247
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: the show. So I was twenty three, twenty four, they

1248
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: were fifteen little weird u I.

1249
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 6: Legal oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It

1250
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 6: was I'll never forget. I'm like, oh, poor girls, but

1251
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 6: but you know, I understood the situation. So you know,

1252
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 6: they were terrified because they had never kissed a boy before.

1253
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that here here comes, you know,

1254
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: the twenty three, twenty four year old, and I'm like, hey,

1255
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: just give me a sign if you're uncomfortable with it's okay,

1256
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: all right, this is our time. Yeah, but I'll never forget.

1257
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this girl's never kissed

1258
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 2: a boy before. And I'm on screen like that's a

1259
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: lot of pressure for them. And it was all of them, yeah,

1260
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: all of them. My character got with every one of them.

1261
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 2: But a ton of fun and then uh you know, yeah,

1262
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: the Rader strike happened, and I think my next show

1263
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: after that was nine A two.

1264
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: And oh right, I was gonna say Nino two one

1265
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: oh to the arrangement. Yeah, I mean, you've had such well.

1266
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 2: Dallas was a big Oh yeah, how was that?

1267
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, did you ever watch Dallas before any reruns

1268
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: before you got the show.

1269
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: So this whole thing you talk about, something that's just

1270
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: coming from somewhere else, you know what I mean. Like,

1271
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: my entire story is very strange and it sounds like

1272
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: it's made up, But when the Dallas thing came back,

1273
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: I'll never forget. I went in and auditioned for the writer,

1274
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: Cynthia c. D and our executive producer, director Mike Robbin,

1275
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: and I went in and I read, and before I

1276
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: get to my car outside of the building, which was

1277
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,479
Speaker 2: right over by Warner Brothers at the time, my agent

1278
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: called and goes, Yo, you're testing for the show. And

1279
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: I go seriously. She's like, yeah, you're testing tomorrow, and

1280
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: I go, gos, I got a sorry. I got to

1281
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: call my mom. So my mother, my me Ma me

1282
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: Mo's Texas for grandmother. They were obsessed with the show.

1283
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: The original one started in nineteen seventy eight, which was

1284
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: four years before I was, before I was born, and

1285
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: they were obsessed with the show. My me Ma was

1286
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: obsessed with the show. She died when I was twelve,

1287
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: so she never got to see any of this, right,

1288
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: And I called my mom. I go Mom, And I

1289
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: didn't even tell her I was auditioning for this, and

1290
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: I was like, Mom, I'm I'm testing. You remember Dallas.

1291
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: She was like the show and yeah, And I was like,

1292
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm testing for it tomorrow, mom, to play jer Ror

1293
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: ewning Son and she just went silent, and I was

1294
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: like hello. She was like, are you kidding me? They're

1295
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: bringing that show back? And I go, yeah, and I'm

1296
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: testing for it tomorrow, mom. I'm not saying I'm gonna

1297
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: get it, but and keep in mind, I was born

1298
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: in Dallas, right Like, I'm like, you know, that's where

1299
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm from. And I go, look, don't get your hopes up,

1300
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: but I just wanted you to know I'm kind of

1301
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: freaking out right now, and I'll let you know what happens.

1302
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: The next day, I go in. It's guy named Peter Berg,

1303
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: was a president of Warner Brothers. What he says goes

1304
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: and right when I went in for the first test,

1305
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: there's like eight dudes wearing cowboy hats. I'm wearing a

1306
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: T shirt and jeans. If you try too hard, you're

1307
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: trying too hard, you know what I mean. And I

1308
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: just walked in and Peter Berg, the president, goes, oh, wait, Josh,

1309
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: tell her for wonder where you're from. Uh, well, I

1310
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 2: was born in Dallas And he was like, anyways, okay,

1311
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: that's sorry, man, just do it and and so I did,

1312
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: and that was the That was the studio test of

1313
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers in the network's test was would have been

1314
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: at Turner the next day and like the like the

1315
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: fish from Finding Nemo, And he did the same thing

1316
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: like he hadn't done it the day before. I was like,

1317
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, Peter, good to see I. Uh

1318
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: you know, I played along yeah from Dallas. By the way.

1319
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: I love that man because he's single hand and was like, no,

1320
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: I don't care what you guys say. That's the guy.

1321
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: And I got it and I called my mom and

1322
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: I was bawling, crying because I couldn't believe that this

1323
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: was real. There's been so many moments moment to my

1324
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: life for him, like this can't be real? Is this real? Now?

1325
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: I'm going home that's where I was born, to shoot

1326
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: the show, to put the city that I was born

1327
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: in on the map.

1328
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 5: What.

1329
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: What's crazy? Because we always say ninety nine percent of

1330
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: this business is being told no. I feel like you

1331
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: kind of beat that because I feel like you haven't

1332
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: been told no nine to nine percent of the things

1333
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: you're going out for. I feel like you've gotten most

1334
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: of the stuff you're going out for Yeah.

1335
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: No, it's a you know, I mean, that's that's a

1336
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: great that's a great point. But but but I have

1337
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: had a ton of notes. I mean, my my demise

1338
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 2: has been Chris Adams. I tested it gets in for

1339
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: John Johnny plain boy, and uh what's test against for

1340
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: Captain America? And I mean he has been even my

1341
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: first pilot to the testament was a show called Eastwick

1342
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: when I've been here for two weeks and and yeah,

1343
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: and by the way, Chris and I we know each

1344
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: we play volleyball together. He's awesome and you know what,

1345
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: congrats to him. What a career. I mean, yeah, you

1346
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: can be Captain America. I mean I remember before.

1347
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: He got kind of America, like, well we were together. Yeah, no,

1348
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: Well he came over and I remember him saying, and

1349
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: Chris Pratt told me the same thing right before he

1350
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: got his like Jurassic por whatever it was. They both

1351
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: remember these conversations so vividly because they were both complaining like, yeah,

1352
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 1: we've had great work and I have a hit show,

1353
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: but we cannot get a job, like I just no

1354
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: one is paying attention, Like we cannot get the job.

1355
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: We raise it at all and they were so close.

1356
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I should just quit, you know, maybe I don't know,

1357
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: It's just not for me. And then all of a sudden,

1358
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: the next month is I'm like, well it's singer didn't

1359
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: quit And.

1360
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: That's crazy correct. And that's the crazy part of this

1361
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: business is is it kind of what you just touched on?

1362
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: I have had a ton of notes and when I

1363
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: go in and I'm like, got it, I don't get it?

1364
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: You know hey? And you never know? And that the

1365
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: the hard part about this businesses is that everything is

1366
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: out of your hands completely. I don't care if you

1367
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: go in and have the best day of your life

1368
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: or the worst day of life. You could have the

1369
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: worst day in the room and you could get it.

1370
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: You got the best day in the room, and you

1371
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: can not get it in power to choose everything correct

1372
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: and you know what you you can't even call it

1373
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 2: and there's no way to call it. And that day

1374
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 2: when I was testing for Dallas, Peter Peter Berg, my

1375
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: guy was my guy, and he was like, he's my guy.

1376
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: And that show also changed my life because I go

1377
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 2: back to shoot the show, I meet Larry Hagman, who's

1378
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: now since passed on, but he shook my hand and

1379
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: he goes ready for this ride, and I go yeah,

1380
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: and he goes, well, you're about to be a son

1381
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: of a bitch. You better be good at it. And

1382
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: I go, I'll be all right. I got that, And

1383
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden from the original fans, I'm

1384
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: hearing that I was, that I'm worse than which was

1385
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: Great Evil. Yeah, who I played in not Evil. He

1386
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: was always doing things for the better of well himself.

1387
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: But no, but I had so much fun, man, you know.

1388
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: And now I'm sitting here on South Fork Branch, which

1389
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 2: is a you know, a staple not only in television

1390
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: history but in Texas. It's essentially a museum at this point.

1391
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here and I would always have them

1392
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: put my chair outside of the outside of my trailer

1393
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 2: so I could just look over the fields as beautiful

1394
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: vast fields and planes of Parker, Texas, which is where uh,

1395
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: South Fork branches.

1396
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. We saw on The Housewives of Dallas stay there,

1397
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: did they really?

1398
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 7: It's weird because that house is about as big as

1399
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 7: your kids, Oh, I know, and they you know, there's

1400
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 7: velvet ropes, so you can't do But of course the

1401
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 7: Housewives like across those ropes started doing things they weren't

1402
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 7: supposed to do.

1403
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: That whole room just disrespectful, disrespectful.

1404
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: I shot my first country music video at south Fork

1405
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: and you know what, you know, you know who can't

1406
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: do that? Everyone you know who can is the lead

1407
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: of the show. They were like, you can do whatever

1408
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 2: you want here. So we shot my my video for

1409
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: a Lot of Love there at South Fork and uh,

1410
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: it's a special place. And that show was so so

1411
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: near and dear to me. And then we lost Larry

1412
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: season two, and then it became the reins were handed

1413
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: to me, and you know, I it was tough. We

1414
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: lost him in the middle of shootings. Yeah, I'll never

1415
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 2: forget Linda Gray, who played my mother, and her character's

1416
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: name was Sue Ellen. She called me a Thanksgiving weekend.

1417
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: I was at the Grove and I was in the

1418
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: line at Start or at Coffee Beet, and I look

1419
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: at my phone and I'm next to my girlfriend and

1420
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: I go, Linda's calling me. That's weird. My first thought was,

1421
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: I hope Larry's okay. So then when I got out

1422
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: and I'm in the middle of all this chaos that

1423
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 2: is the Grove, you know, I called her back and

1424
01:09:54,680 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: she was like, oh, dear honey. I'm like, what's up there?

1425
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: There's he's gone. He passed, And I go what? And

1426
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: now I've got people asking for pictures and coming up

1427
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 2: and I'm literally on the phone just hearing about you know,

1428
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: one of my good friends that it's you know, I

1429
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: call them pops that died. I'm going, uh okay, okay, Hi,

1430
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 2: please one one second, please, uh okay, all right, thanks

1431
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: for calling. I gotta go now I'm taking pictures of people.

1432
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 2: But I just it was a very odd moment. And

1433
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: then you know, we all flew back to Dallas when

1434
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: we were shooting episode of eight of season two.

1435
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: And because when you do a show like that, you

1436
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: do become family. I mean it is you know more

1437
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: about them than anyone else. So yeah, I mean when

1438
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: someone passes like that, I mean it hurts, just like

1439
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: a family member.

1440
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was so abrupt because we I mean,

1441
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: I didn't he didn't tell anybody. I guess he knew

1442
01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: it was coming. But yeah, I mean everyone, you see

1443
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: each other every morning in the makeup trailer and you're like, morning, Pops,

1444
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: how are you? You know whatever? And his airstream was

1445
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: still there, you know. So the next day when I

1446
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: when I had to fly back, I'm just going, oh

1447
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: I do So of course I gave a speech to

1448
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: our cast and crew because I loved A knowing everyone's

1449
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 2: first name, A B, shaking everyone's hand every morning and saying, hey,

1450
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 2: get let's have another great day. We're blessed to do

1451
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 2: this and we're are our family. So then, yeah, I

1452
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 2: had to just try to wrap my head around. And

1453
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: then that day, we're shooting a scene they had already

1454
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: the writers had to rewrite, right because he and I

1455
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: were going out at season, so now he's gone, so

1456
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: the writers had to rewrite on the spot. That day,

1457
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm giving a speech about how much I loved him

1458
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: and how we're going to keep this train moving and

1459
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: for him, and you know, and then I had to

1460
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 2: shoot a scene where I'm pretending he's talking to me

1461
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 2: and hey, John Ross, I'm in Mexico. I'm doing it,

1462
01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: Dick gunshots and I go DA and I scream. I

1463
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 2: had to do that that day, So it was it

1464
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: was an intense moment. And but anyways, what a blessing,

1465
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,560
Speaker 2: and you know, I was I was blessed to know

1466
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: him blessed to be able to experience that, and we

1467
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: ended up doing a whole nother third season, but it

1468
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: was a great experience.

1469
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you've had a blessed career for sure. I

1470
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: mean you've worked your asshole to get here. But I

1471
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: mean it's been so fun watching all the things that

1472
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: you do. There is a sack strike happening right now,

1473
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming that you have a little time off.

1474
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: But is there anything that you're working on right now

1475
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: that you can tell us? And I know that you

1476
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: still love music. Are you begin to be releasing some

1477
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: new music anytime soon?

1478
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: I am. So I've been recording, So I've been, I've been.

1479
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: I started writing in Nashville, I guess in twenty fifteen,

1480
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 2: and I was so fortunate because at the time I

1481
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: was on Dallas, so I had access to the biggest.

1482
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: Songwriters in the world.

1483
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: And so I'm sitting on some songs that are that

1484
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 2: are just I mean, written by some of the best,

1485
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: Dallas Davidson being one of them. I don't know if

1486
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 2: you know Dallas, but I mean he really funny story.

1487
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: Love you, Dallas. I get a message on one night

1488
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 2: at three am, and hey, John roth Man, Hey, uncle Maddie,

1489
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: Uncle Maddie. John roth Man, Hey, hey on about it? Hey,

1490
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: I heard you do country music?

1491
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 4: Man?

1492
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: Hit me up this, Dallas Davis Man, hit me up man,

1493
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 2: you know, let's do something right. And I'm going.

1494
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: Like Boomers, I was talking to you from what's that cartoony?

1495
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 2: I look a lot. I'm like, holy, he's the biggest

1496
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: songwriter in country music history, you know, right there up.

1497
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 2: So I called him back and I'm like, hey, it's Josh.

1498
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if I should say John Ross or Josh.

1499
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: And he goes, get you as out to Nashville, and

1500
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 2: so I did. So we started writing together, and uh,

1501
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: that's a blessing. Because what's funny is is when my

1502
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 2: when my manager called his team, they're like, yeah, he

1503
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: can write maybe like a year and a half or something.

1504
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 2: Who's this calling. They're like no, Dallas called him personally

1505
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: and they're like what. So then I text him and

1506
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: they're like, okay, can he come into Tuesday? And so

1507
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 2: he and I just, you know, he started hanging out

1508
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 2: writing and he's a great dude man and such a

1509
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: talented songwriter and so yeah, I'm sitting on some pretty

1510
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: awesome music and I'm so fortunate for that. And there's

1511
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 2: other songwriters that I've that have been fortunate and fortunate

1512
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: and blessed to write with as well.

1513
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 5: Uh.

1514
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: And so yes, long story short, I'm supposed to do

1515
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 2: a little tour in Texas, uh and kind of go

1516
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 2: and see my folk and do some do some shows there,

1517
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: and then the goal is to you know, I was

1518
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: talking to labels, but I don't think I need to.

1519
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: Labels are just PR firms now these days, one hundred

1520
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: percent needs one. When you have a platform like you do,

1521
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: just release it, like, just do the music you want

1522
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: to do.

1523
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: Correct.

1524
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: The fans are gonna love it no matter what.

1525
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: Correct? I agree, And you know as you as you

1526
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: know a lot of times they just want to kind

1527
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: of tell you what you're supposed to do and tell

1528
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: you what the song isn't.

1529
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: It's either that or bring me a full album. We

1530
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: won't even work, we won't develop this at all. Just

1531
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: bring me a full, ready to go album where we'll

1532
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: release it like just no artist development anymore.

1533
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: Correct. So, But yeah, no, So I'm I'm actually gonna

1534
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: shoot you some songs.

1535
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I need to hear these offline,

1536
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: because yeah, and yeah, I got some things to talk

1537
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: to you about.

1538
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 2: All right.

1539
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: Before I let you go, we got some fan questions here.

1540
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: Would you This is from Lizzybeth fifteen eighty.

1541
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 3: Babe, Lizzie Beth, would you be interested if they did

1542
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: the Desperate Housewives movie or reboot?

1543
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: Move? I'm interested? Yeah, yes, of course, let the spin off? Course,

1544
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 2: the spin off is just your character. I just loves you. Yeah.

1545
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 2: Just man, Who is your dream celebrity you would go

1546
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: to work with? From Princess d nineteen eighty two. Oh

1547
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: my goodness, there's two of them. Wait, never mind in

1548
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: my mind okay, So I mean I think, okay, So

1549
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 2: if we're talking women, it would be either Elizabeth Olsen

1550
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 2: or Alessandra Dadario. I like both of them. If it

1551
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 2: was man and be Gievonna and Ribisi, I loved you.

1552
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: You know Robin Williams, but he's no longer with this man.

1553
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 2: If I could only meet that guy. Uh. And someone

1554
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 2: the other day asked me if I was Brad Pitt's son,

1555
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: and I said nope, but I wouldn't mind working with

1556
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 2: that dude.

1557
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: I will play his son. I'd like to call him daddy.

1558
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: All right, Next question, do you have any plans to

1559
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: go on the road. And before me it was like

1560
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: weird just talked about this Melissa J S T A

1561
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: A T is.

1562
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 2: Melissa stats.

1563
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: Uh so when are you going to announce those dates

1564
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: anytime soon?

1565
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just trying to uh, especially now giving the strike,

1566
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: I got a lot of time on my hands, So

1567
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 2: I think he has a musician's dream right now. Yeah.

1568
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start in Texas. I think I'm gonna

1569
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: do like five to eight different spots around Dallas and

1570
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: Fort Worth kind of in that area. Uh. And then

1571
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit the East Coast because I don't really

1572
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: ever go there, but but I've got uh uh a

1573
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 2: really close friend of mine, Sarah, who lives in Jersey,

1574
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: and she's kind of like, yo, you gotta come to

1575
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: the East Coast. I'm setting up a lot of so

1576
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 2: So anyways, I'm gonna go to Texas and the East

1577
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: Coast and you know, just just try to work while

1578
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: nothing else is happening.

1579
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you ever open up for InSync?

1580
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: And if you forgot the dances, I could probably shore

1581
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: he's got you haven't forgotten? All right?

1582
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: All right, Well that is all the show I have

1583
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: for you before. We like to ask every artist before

1584
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: they leave, give us some recommendations on what we should

1585
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: be watching on television right now.

1586
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: What films would we be I'll say this, I mean whatever. Like,

1587
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 2: I'll be straight up, I'm obsessed with food shows right now,

1588
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: all of these, like I don't know if you Yeah,

1589
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: so I used to love Anthony Bourdain. Yeah, but there's

1590
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 2: a couple of goofier versions of that now. One of

1591
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 2: them is called Somebody Feed Phil. I don't know if

1592
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: you've seen that. No, Who's still by the way, he

1593
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 2: needs to be you ready for this? Who's Phil? He

1594
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: created a show called Everybody Loves Raymon. It probably made

1595
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: him eight hundred million dollars maybe. Yeah. So anyways, he's

1596
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 2: got his own travel food show and it is just

1597
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,879
Speaker 2: I mean, whether you're watching or it's in the background,

1598
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: you're trying.

1599
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: To fall asleep, you watch Tucci show at all? Saying

1600
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: Stanley Tucci.

1601
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: Maybe just.

1602
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: Way, He's another one that I like a lot, very

1603
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: Anthony Board Okay, yeah, he kind of took over from that.

1604
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 2: So I've been obsessed with cooking shows lately.

1605
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: And you know what I just saw. I hadn't started yet,

1606
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: but the Great you know British Breaking show, which I love. Oh,

1607
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,440
Speaker 1: they now bring professionals on. You have a professional professional

1608
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: version of that which.

1609
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: The Great Britain Baking Shows.

1610
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: That was great British Okay, yeah, and it's just novice

1611
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: chefs and you know bakers, but now they've brought in

1612
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: teams of professional bakers.

1613
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: I love that.

1614
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: Looks.

1615
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 2: There's also a show I think he's on Netflix or

1616
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 2: Hulu something. It's called That's fucking Delicious, I think is

1617
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: what it's called.

1618
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: I have heard of that one either, I've seen it.

1619
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: I've never watched. Really good. Yeah, it's because they're just

1620
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: straight characters. So that's a good one. And I'll just

1621
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: say this real quick, little my. My my obsessions are

1622
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: Survivor and Big Brother Big Brothers.

1623
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: Last night, I know it's my favorite show of all time.

1624
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 2: Did you do this celebrity?

1625
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: No, I would never do it because I.

1626
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 2: Was gonna, okay, fine, I was gonna say we should

1627
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 2: like talk to them and like actively don't know each other.

1628
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: And do go in together.

1629
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, and is just kind of like you know,

1630
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: and I would we would both be final two.

1631
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: One hundred percent because we would go in this is

1632
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: and this is how I would do. I would never

1633
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 1: do the show. So I'll get we might have started,

1634
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, we would go in and we would pretend

1635
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 1: that we're like, I don't like this guy, right, So

1636
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: you would take half the house. I would take the

1637
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 1: other half, and we would just make sure that we

1638
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: never got voted off.

1639
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: You little mother, let me tell you something real quick.

1640
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 2: Sorry if we ran out of time. Now we got

1641
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: to talk to So. I'm also obsessed with Survivor. I've

1642
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: seen every every season, maybe just.

1643
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: The last two years. I've watched every single episode. I

1644
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: binge the oh.

1645
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: I've seen every season and there's forty five of them. Now,

1646
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 2: me and Jeff Propes are actually friends, and I told

1647
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 2: him I could. So he had a talk show one

1648
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 2: time and I was supposed to do it and then

1649
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: it get canceled and and I go, Jeff, I got

1650
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 2: a theory on it. He goes, listen, here's what I

1651
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: want you to do. I want you to come on

1652
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: the show, act like you're not you. We're gonna put

1653
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: a super fan of you on the show and see

1654
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 2: if they figure out. But so anyways, I go, that's fine,

1655
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: that's fine. Whatever. Now let's just say I ever did it.

1656
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 2: I go, here's my theory. I cannot believe you just

1657
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 2: said this. I'd go, I would go with the other

1658
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 2: person that either as an alpha male or popular or

1659
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and I'd go, let's stage a fight

1660
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: so no one thinks that we like each other. You

1661
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: just said, very strange. And then you take them and

1662
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: I'll take them, and we make sure that if they're

1663
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: not going to talk about you and they're not going

1664
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: to talk about me, and we finagle the whole situation

1665
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: and we put stuff on other people until we get

1666
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: to the and that's why we need to do it. Yeah,

1667
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: it would. I just talked about my.

1668
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: Theory, but with mine, I would also add a third person,

1669
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: so we split the house in thirds, just so you

1670
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: really get what everyone's saying. Okay, but no, I don't

1671
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: think i'd ever do Big Brother just because the twenty

1672
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: four to seven Live Element. I know, because especially these days,

1673
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something stupid. I'm gonna say something ignorant

1674
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: that I like having my vocabulary that I don't know

1675
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: is supposed to be out of my vocabulary at this point.

1676
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 3: I don't think you say anything too bad.

1677
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1678
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 2: But what think on is that the people become numb

1679
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: to the fact that they're being watched. Yeah, so they

1680
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 2: kind of forget right, but you know it's right here

1681
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: at Stratford.

1682
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, trust me. I've been in the walls and

1683
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: oh yeah since season one. I'm obsessed.

1684
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 2: Let's merit on this because all right, yeah, I mean

1685
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: it could be fun.

1686
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean it would be it would be oh fun.

1687
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's my it's my favorite show of all time,

1688
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: the best experiment social experiment ever on television. And this

1689
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: year it's really good because it's the twenty fifth anniversary,

1690
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: so they're really mixing up the game, which they need

1691
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: to mix up the game. Have you gone back and

1692
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: watched other countries Big Brothers?

1693
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: So I've never seen another country's Big brother but I've

1694
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: seen like all of the ones from here like three

1695
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: times each. So of my favorite characters, his name is Enzo,

1696
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah of course. Yeah. Okay.

1697
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 1: She got a shout out in the with Frankie Grande

1698
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 1: and everyone because the time Machine was made by Mammel Production.

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Speaker 2: Yeah production. So my at the time, Dallas season three

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Speaker 2: was premiering and I was with a girl in New York,

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Speaker 2: so we did this big premiere in New York, and

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Speaker 2: she knew that I loved Inzo, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: I see this full walk into my premiere party and.

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Speaker 4: I go, what I go, She goes, I know what,

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Speaker 4: and he goes, Yo, you are superstar.

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Speaker 2: Hel me out. So now we're buddies anyway, I love.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've got to know so I used to.

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Speaker 1: I still kind of do. I throw the kind of

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Speaker 1: official welcome back to reality party for everyone, like when

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Speaker 1: they come out of CBS right through their press, and

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Speaker 1: then they always would come meet me and Shannon Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: would always throw it and we would welcome them, you know,

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Speaker 1: like congratulations. I mean, and we would become close with

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Speaker 1: so many of these people, and we still do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the cookout feel like you know them even

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Speaker 2: though you do because you lived with them and watch them.

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Speaker 1: And I'm the type of person that goes to sleep

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Speaker 1: with the live feet on of them just talking. So

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Speaker 1: I just go to sleep with them talking to me,

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Speaker 1: and so you really do feel like you know these people.

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Speaker 3: I mean, in one year when we were first dating,

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Speaker 3: when you were living into Luca Lake, we did our

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Speaker 3: own Big Brother weekend at our house.

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Speaker 2: So we had a company come.

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Speaker 3: So it was like three days, like an accelerated version

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Speaker 3: of And we had Dan.

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Speaker 2: We had Dan Geesling fly in to play with us

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Speaker 2: and stayed in our house for the whole weekend. We

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Speaker 2: had Jamil, we had ye ever behind Doctor Will.

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Speaker 1: I actually like it more than Doctor Will. I think

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Speaker 1: he had a harder game to play.

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Speaker 2: I do too, because Doctor Well played When One exactly.

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Speaker 2: And also Mike Boogie was decent but a little slick.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, those are Yeah, we could talk about this.

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Speaker 1: It was it felt like because it was a three

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Speaker 1: day event, it was stressful. You all spent the night

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Speaker 1: and I you know Dan, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I have to have Dan on my side. So we

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Speaker 1: had this little you know whatever final to But then

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Speaker 1: I totally stabbed in the back?

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Speaker 2: Did you? And I was like I want to see

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Speaker 2: it coming.

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Speaker 1: No, because Dan has never been voted out of a

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Speaker 1: Big Brother House ever. He's never danced. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: wanted to go down as the one person that got

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Speaker 1: him out of even if it's a make believe Big

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Speaker 1: Brother house. I got him out?

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Speaker 2: Did you do it? I did? It?

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Speaker 1: Was it was so upset, He's like, what I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I had to do it.

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Speaker 4: I had.

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Speaker 2: That's great. That's a life movement. That was great. Who

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Speaker 2: wanted Sarah?

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Speaker 1: Sarah Packson wanted?

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Speaker 2: Who? I remember Sarah?

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Speaker 1: That little minx. She comes in like she's never seen

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Speaker 1: the show really before. She was with boyfriend lost the show.

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Speaker 2: You just never I don't know what this is a

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Speaker 2: Mermaid movie?

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Speaker 1: She was, Yeah, she was the Mermaid Dad.

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Speaker 3: It was like, it's like Awkwafina, but Yehamarine.

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Speaker 1: Well my favorite was the last was it the last

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Speaker 1: house on the left? That the horror that she remember

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Speaker 1: Paris Hilton?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, she had the arrow go through her head.

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Speaker 1: That's car door greatest. That's great. All right, guys, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can talk about big brother for like, let's uh,

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Speaker 1: let's not okay. Josh is so good to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you. I learned so much more.

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Speaker 2: About you than you. Thank you for having me. What

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Speaker 2: a blessing for all of your ship.

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Speaker 1: But is there anything you would like to tell your

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Speaker 1: fans out there and how can they stay in touch

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Speaker 1: with you at the.

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Speaker 2: End of the day. You know, it's a weird time

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Speaker 2: in general in the world, So I'd like to just uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, and tell people to keep your heads up

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Speaker 2: and keep it moving, keep you know, stay positive and

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Speaker 2: and uh, they can always get a hold of me

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Speaker 2: through Instagram. Facebook's a little weird because I have someone

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Speaker 2: else running that so but Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Facebook's for old people, guys, I'm not old. Did Threads

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Speaker 1: last for like a day, because I swear to god,

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Speaker 1: Threads was like the biggest thing for a day.

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Speaker 2: And I went up. I'm so social media, like like

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Speaker 2: left field by the way. But I'm about to start

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Speaker 2: a TikTok finally, which I do not want to do.

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Speaker 1: You should. It'll be the most fun you have.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I've got to only do TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm really not great at socials. But I've

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Speaker 2: got new music in a song called Runaway. Wait to

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Speaker 2: hear this now, and I'm gonna do it. My first

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Speaker 2: TikTok is gonna be me just singing runaway.

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Speaker 1: Just just live on musicians kill on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm about to start, so yeah, TikTok look.

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Speaker 1: For me all right. I can't wait to hear all

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Speaker 1: these songs. Thank you so much, Josh to being here,

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Speaker 1: and thank you so much for listening. Be good to

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Speaker 1: each other out there. Don't drink and drive, take care

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Speaker 1: of those animals, and remember stay frosted. Hey, thanks for listening.

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