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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to a brand new live

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Speaker 1: edition of Foul Territory. I'm pinch hitting for Scott bron.

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Speaker 1: My name is Alana Rizzo, along with Aj Pierzinski and

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Speaker 1: Eric Kratz. Great to be with you, guys. We have

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Speaker 1: a big show today, so let's get to it. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: good to be with you. As always. Time to charge

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Speaker 2: Let's charging about.

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Speaker 1: All right, lots to get to Let's start with the

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Speaker 1: fact that aj a Uhennio Suarez finally has a home.

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Speaker 1: It looks like he's going back to the Cincinnati Reds

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Speaker 1: on what looks to be a one year, fifteen million

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Speaker 1: dollar deal. Looks like he's going to primarily be the

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Speaker 1: DH will play some third a little bit, but one

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Speaker 1: of the hottest free agents in my opinion. Took a

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Speaker 1: long time to get him there. But he has a home. Now,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of it?

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Speaker 3: Only one year? No, there's no other teams that could

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Speaker 3: have taken j Hennio Suarez on for fifteen million for

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Speaker 3: one year. I mean, I know he was in he

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Speaker 3: was already in Cincinnati. It's a great place to hit,

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Speaker 3: but I'm just shocked at this. Was it like this

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Speaker 3: is where he ended up on a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I look at a team and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: say this, The Yankees, the Red Sox, they couldn't take

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Speaker 3: Gino Suarez on a one year, fifteen million dollar deal.

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Speaker 3: Even the Mariners couldn't take him back on a one year,

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Speaker 3: fifteen million dollar deal. There's some teams out there that

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Speaker 3: for one year fift I mean, I look at the Braves.

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Speaker 3: If he's going to DH the Braves, I'd be a

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Speaker 3: good spot for him. And if Austin Riley matt Olsen

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Speaker 3: don't have Azuna anymore. So I'm just shocked he ended

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Speaker 3: up in Cincinnati. Now, it's a ballpark factor, a familiarity thing.

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Speaker 3: I get that. But good for the Reds man, the

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Speaker 3: red should be stoked about this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Reds have got just gotten a lot

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Speaker 1: better Eric and he hit what forty nine bombs last year?

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Speaker 2: I believe that.

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Speaker 1: And Juhannio Suarez hit I mean, that's a guy I

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Speaker 1: thought was going to be scooped up a lot sooner

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Speaker 1: than he was. Why do you think it took so long?

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Speaker 1: And why do you think Cincinnati was ultimately the destination?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I hope I can bring when we bring

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Speaker 4: Jim on that I can ask him what he said

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Speaker 4: last week. He said, I asked a GM big lead

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Speaker 4: GM earlier in the offseason. Well, why is nobody getting

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Speaker 4: any interest? Why is au Hineusuaz not getting any interest?

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Speaker 4: And he said, did you see what he got at

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Speaker 4: the trade deadline? You know, I'm like, what is that like?

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Speaker 4: Just because teams weren't on him at the trade deadline

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, like he's not like he's just

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Speaker 4: completely viewed as somebody that's not valuable to a team.

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Speaker 4: I've never heard anything bad about his clubhouse presence. He

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Speaker 4: has not just fifty home run potential he had like

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Speaker 4: he can he will hit fifty home runs because he

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Speaker 2: Will he this year? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Nobody knows that, Like you don't have a crystal ball.

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Speaker 4: But for fifteen million dollars, the Red got forty plus

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Speaker 4: home runs. In my opinion, they're gonna He's going to

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Speaker 4: they all automatically get better because they have a dude

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Speaker 4: get away with mistakes. And anybody that says, like for

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Speaker 4: fifteen million for fifteen that, like, how do you not

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Speaker 4: just add I don't care what the price is. He

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Speaker 4: he hit some one of the biggest Grand Slams? Maybe

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Speaker 4: the only Grand Slam I'm not sure in Mariner's postseason history? Yes,

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Speaker 4: like this, this is a guy that you can insert

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Speaker 4: in your lineup immediately, no matter where it is, and.

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Speaker 1: Especially at Great American I can certainly see him hitting

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Speaker 1: over fifty bombs. I mean that's a heck of a

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Speaker 1: again it's just fifteen million on a I mean, fifteen

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Speaker 1: for what he's going to give in terms of an

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Speaker 1: If I'm the Red Sox, how does he not go

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Speaker 3: Aj I just asked that question, Lona, I don't understand

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Speaker 3: this one. And also, here's my other thing. I've had

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Speaker 3: many GMS. It was Jim Bowden this. There is no

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Speaker 3: such thing as a bad one year deal for anybody,

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Speaker 3: no matter how much. If it's one year, one hundred million,

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Speaker 3: it's not a bad idea and a one year deal

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Speaker 3: because you can always cut ties and move on if

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Speaker 3: you're an organization. So listen. To say that he's a

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Speaker 3: bad clubhouse guy doesn't work. To say that he's a

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Speaker 3: bad defender. Okay, he's not Cabrian Hayes, but he's good enough.

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Speaker 3: He's serviceable. He's not he strikes out too much. Okay,

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Speaker 3: everyone strikes out too much. He also runs into forty eight.

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Speaker 3: He runs into forty homers every year. Every time you

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Speaker 3: can play in pressure. He proved that he can play

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Speaker 3: under pressure. I just listen. Congratulations, Cincinnati redfans. This is

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Speaker 3: one of those moves that you should be super proud

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Speaker 3: about the other teams. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the Red Spots never even made an offer to Sware.

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Speaker 1: As you guys at the beginning of the off season,

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Speaker 1: it seemed like a decent backup plan for them, of course,

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Speaker 1: if they didn't land Alex Spragman, which they didn't because

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Speaker 1: that they don't have the money. They got rid of

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Speaker 1: if Bregman was going to come back. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: make him an offer. And Jason Mackie, he does a

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Speaker 1: great job covering the Pittsburgh Pirates, was told that the

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Speaker 1: Bucos offered the same aav on au Heennio Suarez. They

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Speaker 1: were willing to go higher as well as at another year.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like his choice came down to a better ballpark fit,

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Speaker 1: as aj said, familiarity as he said as well, and

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Speaker 1: a chance to cash in next year with the big season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing now, right some of these

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Speaker 4: Mean and owner owner's teams. They love this good Go

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Speaker 4: go get your money from somebody else. We'll take you

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Speaker 4: for one year.

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Speaker 2: We love.

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Speaker 4: Teams love the one year deal. Teams love it. And

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Speaker 4: for the Pirates, I'm sad. I'm sad that they did

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Speaker 4: not get this done. I'm sad that there is a

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Speaker 4: collusion in the league that a player that has forty

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Speaker 4: nine home runs gets the exact same offer from multiple teams.

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Speaker 4: I'm sad for the fact that they don't see what

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Speaker 4: that brings to a team who has playoff aspirations. Beginning

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Speaker 4: off season, I did not believe the Pirates had playoff aspirations.

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Speaker 2: I do now.

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Speaker 4: I think they really do, and I would be I

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Speaker 4: have a hard time believing they're gonna find thirty home

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Speaker 4: runs at third base to replace Ahenio Suarez. And maybe

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Speaker 4: he doesn't have a great year. Maybe Pirate fans will say, see,

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Speaker 4: we shouldn't assigned him. I'm just sad that that teams

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Speaker 4: won't put this extra money in to take that extra mile,

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Speaker 4: because I know as a player, you put everything you

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Speaker 4: have into this season, and I can see it in

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Speaker 4: Paul's schemes. You see it in is the way he interacts,

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Speaker 4: the way he's like, we just have to be better.

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Speaker 2: He's he's all about winning.

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Speaker 4: The different guys that they already got in there, Anio

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Speaker 4: would be incredible to add to that lineup because this

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Speaker 4: is the list of guys that last year in Major

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Speaker 4: League Baseball hit more home runs than him, Aaron Judge,

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Speaker 1: That's insane. So that begs the question.

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Speaker 2: Why did.

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Speaker 3: That's we don't know. But here's here's my thing. If

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Speaker 3: we're talking fucking pirates, Okay, we've had this conversation. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Pirates do not have a great reputation as far as

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Speaker 3: a winning b signing guys, keeping on whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: So we've had this conversation. If they're really interested in

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Speaker 3: Gino Suarez, right, like, you have to go above and beyond.

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Speaker 3: Now they said they go above the one year fifteen?

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Speaker 3: Is that one year sixteen? They're like, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 3: Geno will give you one year sixteen to come to Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 3: right like you have to Like they're like, oh, a

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Speaker 3: I can get one fifteen from a place I know

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Speaker 3: I can go and hit forty again. I've been there before,

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Speaker 3: I played there before. They made the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 3: People forget the Reds were in the postseason. Now they

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Speaker 3: But if you're the Pirates, I'm just if I'm a

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Speaker 3: to go above and beyond. And right now they're trying

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Speaker 3: to get away with it by just saying we tried,

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Speaker 3: we tried, we tried. Yes, Rhyan O'Hearn, nice edition, Brandon

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Speaker 3: Lutrade great. Some of the things they've done have been good.

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Speaker 3: But if you want to get a guy like Gino

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Speaker 3: you got to go above and beyond. And that's the

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Speaker 3: Pirates just aren't doing that. That's why the Kyle Schwarbert

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Speaker 3: were in for less than he got in Philly. So

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Speaker 3: cool they were in, but they were never real players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed to go harder on Suarez and they

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Speaker 1: definitely need to resign up. Mccutch.

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Speaker 3: What here's the thing, Alana. If they go and I'll

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Speaker 3: ask crutches, if they go to Gino Suarez and say,

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Speaker 3: So you got to go above and beyond and you

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Speaker 1: Look at those projected lineup for the reds Now with

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Speaker 1: decent lineup. I mean TJ. Friedel, obviously, Marte Ellie de

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Speaker 4: I mean potential, the Cincinnati potentials, massive potential. There, massive

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Speaker 2: He's going to hit clean up for a lot of teams.

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Speaker 2: They added him for one year fifteen million crap, Like,

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Speaker 4: Teams that need a right handed bat in a right

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Speaker 1: Who's to say, now, a great American I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I mean totally in the year.

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Speaker 2: It's a pictures park. Now it's a pictures park.

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Speaker 4: Now the numbers will show the numbers will show it

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Speaker 3: In it is.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I thought Great American was a

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Speaker 3: How is it.

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Speaker 2: Okay last year? M okay, Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 3: That's what he said. That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said. All right, we're going to continue

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Speaker 1: the conversation. Thanks for Sean for coming on. It's interesting,

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Speaker 1: you know, I can I can understand it from both perspectives. Guys,

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Speaker 1: AJ you said, there's no way in the world that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would. But they'll figure it out. Just they'll

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Speaker 3: imagine that Puerto Ricos went to Major League Baseball and said,

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Speaker 3: Puerto Rico. I'm sorry. I get what they're saying, and

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Speaker 3: I understand why they're upset. And I want Francisco Lindoor

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Speaker 3: And I think that this is a way for them

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're running out of time.

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Speaker 4: Eka they are running out of time, and this is

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Speaker 4: why it's all coming to a head right now. But insurance,

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Speaker 4: not paying for these guys to play because Great Britain,

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Speaker 4: their federation can't afford to pay Eradus Chapman's insurance no

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Speaker 4: matter what that insurance is. They don't have the cash

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Speaker 4: that like a team USA federation has, but those aren't

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Speaker 4: The federations aren't paying for it right now. It's Major

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Speaker 4: League Baseball and the Players Association because it's forty man

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Speaker 4: I is what I was just told. And so maybe

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Speaker 4: they need to change there. Maybe they need to change

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Speaker 4: their percentage of what they're gonna pay because insurance costs

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Speaker 2: Just look at your bill wherever you go.

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Speaker 1: There's not a major league team of the thirty that

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Speaker 1: the insurance for their players. There's not a major league

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Speaker 1: know Miguel Rojas's situation was different because his was an

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Speaker 1: it was an insurance thing. You're telling me that the

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Speaker 2: Talked about this, We just talked about this.

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Speaker 4: You can't tell me there's nine tena couldn't pay and

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Speaker 4: Heneo Suarez fifteen million dollars to play, Like.

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Speaker 1: Right, there's there's a different want to versus can there

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately teen Puerto Rico is a team that's just no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I think it could really hurt this. It could really

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Speaker 4: If you don't have the stars playing in your tournament, exhibition,

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Speaker 4: global championship, whatever you want to call it, it is

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Speaker 4: not good for your exhibition tournament, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: To Eric's point, the coverage has become considerably more expensive.

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Speaker 1: The league's insurers has become more stringent about which players

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Speaker 1: the fairness in that? People briefed on the underwriting process

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Speaker 1: who are not authorized to speak publicly said, no cap

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Speaker 2: But that's not so.

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Speaker 1: Again, this is different rules for different.

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Speaker 4: Players, no different rules for different situations. But they still

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Speaker 4: if they didn't revisit it. I don't know that they

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Speaker 4: didn't revisit it, but if they didn't revisit that cap

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Speaker 4: for the from the insure, I mean, Aja, you live

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Speaker 4: places fully and this is for houses, but it's insurance

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Speaker 2: It just goes up. Premiums go up.

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Speaker 4: And if you don't change, if you don't change it,

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Speaker 4: just they're not able to take that risk right now.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like insurance they to talk about. Also,

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Speaker 4: I just want to say this, This insurance isn't just

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Speaker 4: They have a hard time getting insurance on older guys contracts.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that they didn't they couldn't sign them to a

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Speaker 4: it also affects more than just the WBC, in Major

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, I just I don't I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: They don't want they don't want to They don't truly

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Speaker 4: want to grow the game. They want their their agenda,

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Speaker 4: I think they need to have transparency and say this

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Speaker 3: Why would they just they can insure themselves. Why woult

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Speaker 3: they just insure themselves. You can go to Lloyd's of

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Speaker 4: It's a Major League Baseball pay for the part that

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Speaker 4: doesn't work like that if you max Max Scherzer had

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Speaker 4: just like these college football guys who are buying insurance

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Speaker 3: No, but you have still have to cover the whole

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Speaker 3: You still have to pay an insurance policy because you're

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Speaker 3: enough money to cover that entire contract if possible, but.

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Speaker 1: The insurance too, is like, if the guy gets hurt,

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Speaker 1: some levity for the situation. Guys just here to just

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Speaker 1: make you laugh. I mean, that's just what I'm here for.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's turn the topic to show Hey Otani in

434
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Speaker 1: the WBC. This is not an insurance issue. This is

435
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Speaker 1: hey Otani is participating for Team Japan. But he did

436
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Speaker 1: say that he will not pitch in the WBC and

437
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Speaker 1: he will get ready for the regular season to pitch

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Speaker 1: for the Dodgers. This was from Alden Gonzalez of ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said Otani will not pitch in

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Speaker 1: the WBC, adding that it was Otani's decision. A jed,

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Speaker 1: do you think it was Otani's decision, which I believe

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Speaker 1: it was, because I believe that the Dodgers do whatever

443
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Speaker 1: Otani says? And do you like this? Do you like

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Speaker 1: this choice?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: No, I hate the choice because I love the WBC,

447
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Speaker 3: But I understand it. Of course, I want to see

448
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 3: Otani versus Trout at the end again like we saw

449
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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. But I understand it, and listen,

450
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Speaker 3: was it his choice, Here's what it was. Here's one

451
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Speaker 3: thing we know about Shohan Tani. He makes informed decisions

452
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Speaker 3: for the longevity of his career. And the worst thing

453
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Speaker 3: that he could have happen right now, for not only him,

454
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Speaker 3: but for the Dodgers is him going out and getting

455
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Speaker 3: hurt pitching again. The odds of a position player going

456
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Speaker 3: out and getting hurt and missing an entire season, yes

457
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Speaker 3: they are there, but they're much slimmer than a pitcher.

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Speaker 3: So I totally get this, and I totally understand it.

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Speaker 3: It just sucks because I want to see him pitch

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Speaker 3: and I want that moment again. The excuse me, the

461
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Speaker 3: Otani Trout, the Tani Judge, bottom of the ninth, He's

462
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Speaker 3: pitching and boom, we'll see what happens. You know, Otani

463
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Speaker 3: versus I don't know whoever, Will Smith, whoever you want

464
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Speaker 3: to throw out there, like his teammate or you know

465
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Speaker 3: someone you know again, Aaron Judge. That'd be really cool

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Speaker 3: to see. But it's the smart decision.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to talk to you after you took

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Speaker 1: a picture with Otani. Were you nervous?

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Speaker 3: Ah, of course, I was scared to death to ask him,

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Speaker 3: because all I heard was he won't do it, He

471
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Speaker 3: won't do it, he won't do it. He was great,

472
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Speaker 3: he was nice, he laughed. Luckily I knew his training

473
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Speaker 3: his translator though, so that helped me kind of with

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Speaker 3: the insights.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, the thrill.

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Speaker 3: I know Matt. I know Matt, his personal guy. Oh,

477
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Speaker 3: pardon me, because because he has two, he has two

478
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Speaker 3: different ones now. He used to just have the one.

479
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Speaker 3: Now he has Matt at home and he has the

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Speaker 3: Dodgers one. And Matt used to work. Matt used to

481
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Speaker 3: work for Fukudome when played with me, and he's great.

482
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Speaker 3: So both those Fukadomi and Matt. So when I saw him,

483
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Speaker 3: Matt's like, oh, and he introduced me and gave a

484
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Speaker 3: little funny story. I don't know what he said because

485
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Speaker 3: I don't speak Japanese, but he laughed, so I'm sure

486
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Speaker 3: it was something very in It's.

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Speaker 1: Probably and inappropriate. But nevertheless, you got a picture with show.

488
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Speaker 1: Hey Otani. I'm jealous, Eric, he's not pitching. I'm imagining.

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Speaker 1: You can understand the reasoning behind that as well.

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Speaker 4: Ye we just said Jim Bowden on talking about how

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Speaker 4: we need to have a little hangnail or you're gonna

492
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Speaker 4: have a little soreness. Guys are gonna sit out. Not

493
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Speaker 4: because the Dodgers don't care. It's because the Dodgers have

494
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Speaker 4: one thing from top to bottom, from a ball all

495
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Speaker 4: the way up to the Guggenheims. They are locked in

496
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Speaker 4: on winning the World Series. And you know what, Shoho

497
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: Tani not pitching for his country was massive intrigue. I

498
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 4: forget how many like double or tripled his Instagram followers

499
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Speaker 4: last year in I mean last WBC when he was

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Speaker 4: in it, like the only bigger star was Lars Newbar.

501
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Speaker 4: I'm kidding, but this is what we go to see.

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Speaker 4: We see the best players play. So yeah, I'm sad

503
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Speaker 4: that he's not gonna pitch. Am I surprised? Absolutely not.

504
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Speaker 4: He's still gonna play. He's still one of the top

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Speaker 4: three best hitters on the planet. We just don't get

506
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Speaker 4: to see one of the you know, top ten pitchers

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Speaker 4: on the planet. So oh well, boohoo us. But we

508
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 4: saw it last time. Enjoy it, remember it. Go rewind

509
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Speaker 4: and let the Dodgers go and try to win their

510
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Speaker 4: World Series without what.

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Speaker 1: If we see like a Paul Skins versus sho he

512
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Speaker 1: Otani at that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can see that in the regular season.

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00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: No Rogers versus Pirates.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want Here's what I want to Elana. We

516
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Speaker 3: want the drama that happened in the last one. First,

517
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Speaker 3: try to facet Tawani teammates bottom of the ninth think listen,

518
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Speaker 3: can we say show hey face Aaron Judge in the

519
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: regular season of the postseason? Absolutely, but with the game

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Speaker 3: on the line, country verse country, as much as this

521
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Speaker 3: means more than the World Series, Eric and Scott and

522
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Speaker 3: Sean right, we want to see that. We want that drama.

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Speaker 3: We're here. That's why people like this, because this is

524
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Speaker 3: why the Olympics needs Major League Baseball players and MPB

525
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Speaker 3: and the best players in the world playing in it.

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Speaker 3: Just like the NHL does. Shut the season down for

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Speaker 3: a couple weeks. Let these guys go play, showcase the

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Speaker 3: game to the world everybody, because it's an unbelievably great

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Speaker 3: game if you just show it to people.

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Speaker 2: Amen, I want to see.

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Speaker 4: I want to see Edwin Diz versus Will Smith or

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Speaker 4: or let's see Paul Skeens versus I'm trying to think today,

533
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Speaker 4: anybody on an international team, that's what I want to see.

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Speaker 4: I want to see. I want to see Shoe Hay

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Speaker 4: versus Scooble. I want to see that left handed Matt Like.

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Speaker 4: That's that's what we're here for. And that's what is

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Speaker 4: so cool about your country playing or players, your stars,

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Speaker 4: your team star playing for your country. Because there is

539
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Speaker 4: plenty of Minnesota Twins White Sox fans who can be

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Speaker 4: a fan of Team USA and cheer for Trek Schouble

541
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Speaker 4: and they will never cheer for Terrek Scoobel again until

542
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Speaker 4: he goes to another team. I mean, he's not gonna

543
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Speaker 4: go to the White Sox so because he's a Tigers player.

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Speaker 4: But that's what international baseball does. And I am probably

545
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Speaker 4: not as big of a baseball nerd for international baseball

546
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Speaker 4: as JP Morosi or Sean Sean Spradling, but I love

547
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Speaker 4: international baseball, from Winter League to the WBC, to all

548
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Speaker 4: the minor league players that play and the stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some money moves, guys. Luis

551
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Speaker 1: a rise to the Giants. They reached an agreement with

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Speaker 1: the twenty eight year old contact hitting savant. Of course,

553
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Speaker 1: he has won the batting title three different times. It's

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Speaker 1: a one year, twelve million dollar contract. He led the

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Speaker 1: National League last year with one hundred and eighty one

556
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Speaker 1: hits last season. Aja, you like this for the Giants?

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Speaker 1: You like this for a Rise?

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00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: No, I like it for a Rise. The Giants needed

559
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: a second baseman. The Rise has given his opinion that

560
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Speaker 3: he wants to play second base. It's a good fit.

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Speaker 3: He can get on base for like Jim Boden said,

562
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Speaker 3: for a Damis and for Raffie Devers to drive him in.

563
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: I like this move. I think it's a good move.

564
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Speaker 3: It's a good one year move. It's a proven year.

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Speaker 3: And if Damas goes out and I know it doesn't

566
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Speaker 3: mean anything, but he goes I mean sorry, if a

567
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: Rise goes out and doesn't mean anything, but he goes

568
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Speaker 3: out and wins another batting title in San Francisco, he

569
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Speaker 3: should be in line to get a nice contract. Because

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Speaker 3: I just love how I'm gonna say this in a

571
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Speaker 3: Rise of a former Minnesota Twin. Batting titles meant so

572
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Speaker 3: much for Joe Maller, and they meant a lot for

573
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Speaker 3: Buster Posey, right, but Luisa Rise wins one and nobody cares.

574
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Speaker 3: So it's just because they were catchers. Or is it

575
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Speaker 3: because the thought on batting titles has changed so much?

576
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Speaker 3: I'm just asking.

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Speaker 1: It always seems like this year is a proven year

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Speaker 1: for Luisa Raise.

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Speaker 4: Eric.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy does have three batting titles. I

581
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Speaker 1: understand that he's not you know, he's not a power hitter.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he doesn't hit home runs. He's not the

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Speaker 1: best defensively. But I would think that being able to

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Speaker 1: make contact and not striking out would be of value apparently,

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Speaker 1: though not in today's game, correct, Man.

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Speaker 2: I just don't. It's not like we're talking about like don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I'm trying. I never came up

588
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Speaker 4: with an example. But it's not like we're talking about

589
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Speaker 4: a dude who's like, ah, you know, he's he's just

590
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Speaker 4: so he did he won one batting title, he's won three.

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Speaker 2: He led the league last year and hits. I get it.

592
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: It's it's all it's batting average and no on base percentage.

593
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: It's fine, he struck out.

594
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: He had the lowest strikeout percentage last year since Tony

595
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Speaker 4: Gwynn take in nineteen ninety five. That was Sarah Lange's tweet.

596
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: It was something that was like, that's crazy in the

597
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: era where we're in where guys, whether they're better pitchers

598
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: or not, I'm not going to discuss that guys are

599
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: one hundred percent going for the strikeout.

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Speaker 2: That is it.

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Speaker 4: They are only going for the strikeout. Is Luis a

602
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 4: Rise as valuable as a Uhennio Suarez to a certain extent,

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Speaker 4: There's a value there. And the batting to win a

604
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: batting title is so ridiculously hard, and he's done it

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Speaker 4: three times, and like AJ said, like it just feels

606
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Speaker 4: it feels like we're like picking certain situations that it

607
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: was cool to win a batting title. But like, Luis

608
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Speaker 4: a Rise is going to one hundred raise his value

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Speaker 4: because of the fact that he plays second. If he

610
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Speaker 4: can play second base the entire year as a first baseman,

611
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Speaker 4: you can never sit there and go, well, is he

612
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: just the best defensive first baseman in the game?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: And then who else are you? Who else are you

615
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: finding dudes in Triple A who they probably would say,

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Speaker 4: we'd rather give his twenty five thirty home runs in

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Speaker 4: Triple A a shot in the big leagues before they

618
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Speaker 4: would Luisa Rise, which is a travesty to how tough

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Speaker 4: it is to win a batting title, let alone lead

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Speaker 4: the league, lead the National League in hits.

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Speaker 1: He turned down another multi year offers to play second

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Speaker 1: base for the Giants, a position that he wanted to

623
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Speaker 1: return to guys after playing first base for the Padres.

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Speaker 1: So the Giants now aj have an infield of Chapman

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Speaker 1: Adamis Arise Endeavors. It's pretty damn good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who's going to pitch. This is a

627
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: question who's going to pitch behind Logan Webb But we'll see.

628
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess Robbie Ray still there. But still

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Speaker 3: it's like it's like this, this is a nice not

630
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Speaker 3: a terrible lineup. I mean, I think Patrick baileys do

631
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Speaker 3: for a nice bounce back this year. Pryce Eldridge, if

632
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Speaker 3: he can hit, I mean, the top of the order

633
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: is as good as he gets. So we'll see. Let's

634
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: never get Hilario Bramos a couple of years ago was

635
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Speaker 3: projected to be like they were talking about him being

636
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: like a star star. So Vader can play nice centerfield.

637
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: Patrick Bailey's gonna bounce back. I don't hate this lineup.

638
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: I just I hate the fact that it took Luisa Rise.

639
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: We're talking about this for Luisa Rise because it just

640
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: he smiles all the time he puts the ball in play.

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00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: There's value in that that nobody wants to talk about.

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00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: No, it's just I don't know, is it because he's

643
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Speaker 1: just not driving guys in? But I mean, at least

644
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Speaker 1: he gets on base to be driven in.

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00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: But here's the thing about you're saying you doesn't drive

646
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Speaker 3: guys in. But what's the thing they always say RBIs

647
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: don't matter because it's a it's a matter of where

648
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: you are in the lineup, right, So it's like they

649
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: come up with excuses on why certain things matter depending

650
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: on who you are and how they like you and

651
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: what you're thinking about. Oh RBI's matter except for when

652
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: they don't. Batting average matters except for with this guy. Right,

653
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: Home runs matter, strikeouts matter except for with this guy.

654
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: It's like the whole, the whole thing to be just

655
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense sometimes. But that's why I don't own

656
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: a team. That's why I don't run a team, because

657
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: I equip it feel like I don't know.

658
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's just what you can make the numbers.

659
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: You can manipulate the numbers to solve any anything you

660
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: want him to say.

661
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 4: Same and and analytics feels like they're they're adverse, they're

662
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: they're completely unob they're subjective. I'm not using that word right,

663
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: objective and subjective. And that's what that's the whole reason

664
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 4: for analytics was, Oh, we don't we don't have our

665
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: feelings in this at all. Now you one hundred percent

666
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 4: have your feelings in it. We don't want ahneos. The

667
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: league doesn't want any Auheneo Suarez. Why because he strikes

668
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: out too much. He was fifth in baseball on homers,

669
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 4: hit forty nine home runs most years, that leads the league. Okay,

670
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: but you know he strikes out too much. His defense

671
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: isn't good enough. Well, brings the money down. How about

672
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: we talk about how good a player is and what

673
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: if what if he just.

674
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: Hits one home run this year?

675
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: What if what if Luisa rise hit gets one RBI

676
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: this year and that RBI pushes the Giants to the

677
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: playoffs and all twelve million, fifteen million, two years, twenty

678
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: four million, It all matters exactly what AJ said needs

679
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: to be clipped. It's all manipulated to make somebody look bad,

680
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: to make somebody look worse than what they really are,

681
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: and ultimately, the name of the game is winning as

682
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: many baseball games as possible. In Luis Arise on most teams,

683
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: playing second base is an upgrade.

684
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty one hits last year eight home runs.

685
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four, he had two hundred hits, and of course,

686
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: as we've mentioned, twenty two to twenty three to twenty

687
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: four batting title for that year. Pretty interesting to be

688
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: able to do that, pretty impressive to be able to

689
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: do that three years in a row. All right, let's

690
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: get to some more moves that were made this weekend

691
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: in hot corner. All right, I can't wait to get

692
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: the take on this one from AJ. The Chicago White

693
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: Socks have acquired right handed pitcher Jordan Hicks and David Sandlin,

694
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: cash considers, and two players to be named later from

695
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox in exchange for right hander Gage

696
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: Zeal and a player to be named later. Jordan Hicks

697
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: not the best numbers last year with the Red Sox,

698
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: but I think the bigger piece of this puzzle AJ

699
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: is David Sandlin go into the socks, your socks? What say?

700
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: You uh cool supposed to say? I mean, we just

701
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: had this conversation about you know, we want to trade

702
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 3: prospects and let's listen, Sandland. You know he throws hard.

703
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: But if we looked at if you dig into his numbers, man, listen,

704
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: people are gonna say, oh, you know, I don't like

705
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: the white socks, but I just look at numbers, man, numbers.

706
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: Look at his walks, man, his walks are just not good.

707
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: Seventy six walks. You know, he has a lot of walks.

708
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: Just he strikes out a ton of guys, but he's

709
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: got a lot of walks. He's got a high ra

710
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got a four almost a four four

711
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 3: era in the minor leagues. Yeah, like they got Jordan Hicks,

712
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: who can he's gonna pitch out of the According to

713
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: Chris Gatz, that helps him in the bullpen because I

714
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 3: think we figured out since he's gone to San Francisco,

715
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: he's definitely not a starter, right, he'll help in the

716
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 3: bullpen wherever he can come in and give you multiple

717
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: innings as a bullpen guy. So I like that, but

718
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: they're you know, they're still getting what they have to pay,

719
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: what twenty million of this sixteen million, I think they

720
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: they have left on the hook for Jordan Hicks.

721
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: Eight million of Hicks is twenty four.

722
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: Okay, So yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a it's a

723
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: move that you know, if Zeal's not gonna deal's not

724
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: gonna help you, zero deal deal, you know, not gonna

725
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: help you, then fine. But I don't. I mean, this

726
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: is just a move. It's like, oh, we're making moves now,

727
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: just to make moves, right, Like, look, we can make

728
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: a move and people say, we can tell people how

729
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: great this guy's gonna be. But again, I mean, Jordan Hicks, Okay,

730
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 3: but you're getting let your you know, for a team

731
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 3: money money challenge right now?

732
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: Cool?

733
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: Like, yes, go White Sox, good job, Chris gets hey, ja,

734
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: don't don't don't don't appeal to the masses. Does this

735
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: make the team better for the year that they're going

736
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: to win they're going to make the playoffs. I'm not

737
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 4: saying it this year. Whatever year you said in your

738
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: mind that the White Sox should be in the playoffs,

739
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 4: does this make their team better for that year?

740
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I have no idea because I

741
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: just gave you his numbers. How do I know? How

742
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: do I know what this guy's going to be? Apparently

743
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: Boston didn't think. Boston was like we can get rid

744
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: of hicks. O.

745
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Nobody knows what the hell Boston's doing. Boston is as

746
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: a mess.

747
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is is to answer cross this

748
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: question though, when are sallin going to help him this year?

749
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: And then maybe three years from now he figures out

750
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: how not to have a four to four e r

751
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: A in the minor league? Like you know what I'm saying, Like,

752
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if this helps them, but I know

753
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: that it's a move to make a move, and I

754
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 3: like that at least they're trying to make some sort

755
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: of moves.

756
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: Okay, so maybe maybe a little bit above average. But

757
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: the Red Sox, we have a resident Red Sox fan.

758
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 4: You live right next to Fenway Park, so you're snowed in.

759
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: What are the Red Sox doing? They just they now

760
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 4: clear and I'm and I joked about it on Twitter

761
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: when you when you had mentioned when you put on

762
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: there like still waiting, Like they got rid of Rafael

763
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 4: Devers contract, that's massive. They got rid of now Jordan

764
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 4: Hicks contract. That was a massive amount of money. I

765
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 4: guess you know they didn't get rid of all of

766
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 4: it because the White Sox aren't paying all of it

767
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: or the pain a lot. And I said, Liverpool, they're.

768
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: Over there.

769
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: The Red Sox don't have a money problem. They have

770
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 1: a decision making problem, and they have a let's wait

771
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: around because we think people want to play with for

772
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: the Red Sox. Alec Bregman is now in Chicago because

773
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: the Red Sox left it on their laurels that oh,

774
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: he's going to want to come back. We're guaranteeing that

775
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: he's going to want to come back, so we're not

776
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: going to make a move and do anything else. Yes,

777
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: they signed Ranger Suarez and I guess that you know

778
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's fine. But the thing is with the

779
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: Red like you let Raffael Dever go after the second

780
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: year or within his second year of a ten year deal.

781
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: So that just goes to show you if you're Bregman,

782
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: because the Red Sox don't give no full no trade clauses,

783
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: that's just going to show you that, you know what,

784
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: I still might be moved. And they saved two hundred

785
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: and something million dollars on Dever's contract and didn't put

786
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: the money anywhere. Jordan Hicks doesn't make enough money to

787
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: make a difference in their payroll. What are the Red

788
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: Sox doing?

789
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: You tell me? In the same snow as Fenway Park?

790
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: Ish god by the way? Uh. The White Socks are

791
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: also in agreement with free agent outfielder Austin Hayes, sources

792
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: telling ESPN Hayes He's thirty hit fifteen home runs in

793
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and three games for Cincinnati last year. The

794
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: Socks were looking for a veteran outfielder, and Hayes fits

795
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: the bill. Guys, So here is the lineup, the projected

796
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: lineup anyway with Austin Hayes. So aj, I mean you

797
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: like this move at least in terms of proven talent

798
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: in Austin Hayes.

799
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I get on board with this move. This is

800
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: the move that we've been saying the White Sox should

801
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: have made for years. Bring in a veteran guy that

802
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: helped can help some of the young guys, right, and

803
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: if he has a great first half and you're not

804
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: in contention, even though the White Sex are like, we're

805
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: gonna win the division. This year, you trade him and

806
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: you get some players back. This is the move that

807
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: you make. This is a smart move, the Murricami move.

808
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: It's only a two year deal. That's a good move.

809
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: Brooks Bald when Edwin Kiro look at this team, Vargas

810
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 3: Montgomery TiO Mydra, they need a veteran guy in there.

811
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: And listen, no offense to Andrew ben Attendi, but he

812
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: doesn't really go as not very outgoing. He's probably he's

813
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: a good guy, really good guy. But you need somebody

814
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 3: that can be a little outgoing and lead these guys.

815
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 3: And ben Attende's been there for a while now. So

816
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: these two guys, maybe Hayes and been attendee together can

817
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: talk to Brooks Wald when Kiro t o Mydra with

818
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: Montgomery teach him how to be big leaguers. I love

819
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: this move. This this is the move the white sexually

820
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: we make because it's only a one year deal. And

821
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 3: if he's great, you got something. And if he's not great,

822
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: or if he's great, you trade him and you get

823
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: something back in return, maybe in organization's ten best prospect

824
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: like they just did. If not, he teaches the young

825
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: guys what to do. But I would bet on Austin

826
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: Hays having a good year and coming out and helping

827
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: the White Sox be better.

828
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it's value. I mean there is not physical

829
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 4: value there. Hicks might Jordan Hicks might save twenty games,

830
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 4: you know, Sir Anthony might save the other twenty games

831
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: for the White Sox. So I guess from a front

832
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: office standpoint, there's value there. But the value in Austin

833
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: Hayes is what he brings to exactly what AJ said.

834
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: So two completely different moves, two guys that have been

835
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 4: in the league, and most people would say Jordan Hicks

836
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: for his career, has had a better career than Austin Hayes.

837
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: If Austin Hayes can make an impact on one or

838
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: two of those prospects, those guys that are now solidifying

839
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: themselves in the big leagues, knowing what it takes to

840
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 4: be a big leaguer, knowing what it takes to win

841
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: in the big leagues, which is the next step, not

842
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 4: just hitting thirty home runs, it's winning in the big leagues,

843
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 4: then that contract will pay for itself fifty times over.

844
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 4: That's where that's where Bregman's value to the Red Sox

845
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: was last year. That's where Kyle Schwarber's value to the

846
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: Phillies is and the White Sox if they have a

847
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: chance to add another piece like this. We talked about

848
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: Zack Gallen before. If some of these pitchers in the

849
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 4: White Sox starting rotation, young pitchers are gonna be guys

850
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: that you're going to have up there for a decent

851
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: amount of time. Having a guy like Zach Gallon around.

852
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: He may cost you twenty two point three million dollars

853
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 4: whatever the whatever the qualifying offer is, it's probably about

854
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: what he'll get, but what he will pay back dividends

855
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: for the future. That's why I pose the question that

856
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 4: I did to aj because those type of things our

857
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: relationship and career building moments, when you bring guys like

858
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: that in, if they're the right fit for your young kids,

859
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: would the.

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00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: White Sox make sense or let me rephrase, this would

861
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: make White.

862
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: So he would make sense. But he ain't gonna go

863
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: there just to win, and he's not going to go there,

864
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: And it goes right back to the thing we talked

865
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: about with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Do you guys remember all

866
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: the polls that have come out recently, worst franchise to

867
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: play for teams we don't want to go to. You

868
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 3: don't want to do this. It's been the White Sox,

869
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: been the White Sox, been the White Sox, Right. So

870
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 3: you think Zach Allen's going to look at that, and

871
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: Zack Allen's gonna call someone like Lancelyn who played for

872
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: the White Sox, right, or he's gonna call someone Todd

873
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: Frazier or someone that's been there recently and say, hey,

874
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: what did you guys think of this? And he's gonna say, well,

875
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: I guess what. The White Sox are gonna have to

876
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: grossly overpay to get someone like Zach Gallen, even if

877
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: it's just for one year, because most guys and they

878
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: go on one year deals when they go to prove it,

879
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 3: they want to go to a winner because you always

880
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: look good on a winning team, right, So they'd have

881
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: to massively overpay. And one thing we've learned about the

882
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: White Sox recently, they're not going to massively overpay the.

883
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: Man that just like the Pirates, like you said, they're

884
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: not going to massively overpay either. I mean they could

885
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: have had far as they would have just up the

886
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: ante at a couple of million a year, I.

887
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: Can't argue with that, if you know, if you really,

888
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: if deep down in your heart of hearts, you don't

889
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 3: think that you can compete, then you don't overpay unless

890
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: you're unless you're the Nationals and you have Jason Worth

891
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: sitting there and you think eventually he's going to lead

892
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: to a World Series title, and you don't think Zach

893
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: Allen's going to be there, then you don't do it right.

894
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: But the Nationals got what they wanted. They won the

895
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: World Series with Jason Worth, and because you know then

896
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: they strawspertures are all these guys showed up. The Tigers,

897
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: Pud Rodriguez, Maglei, Ardonias, they were the first ones. Now,

898
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: unfortunately the Tigers never won a World Series, but they

899
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: got there and they competed for a long time and

900
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: that was kind of the start of it. So when

901
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: you think you're in that window, you go for it.

902
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: The Cubs did it with John Lester, John Lackey, Jason Hayward. Right,

903
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: They're like, where this is our chance, Dexter Fowler, We're

904
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: going for it. They brought in these veterans with Schwarber,

905
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: Brian Rizzo, these younger guys, Contreres, and it worked out

906
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't always work out, but you got to pick

907
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: your time, and when you pick that time, you gotta go.

908
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Okay time now to Slaphands, gentlemen, we appreciate, uh you

909
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: guys letting me be here today. David robertson retiring, Good

910
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: for him.

911
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: He had a great career, Hey, Jay cutters and curveballs,

912
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 3: and he was the last one on.

913
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: The two thousand and nine Yankees team right that one

914
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: World Series with the Yanks. It was the last one

915
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: that was still active.

916
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: Correct, What a career, Great career for a guy when

917
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: he a gymnast coming out of Alabama, when he like

918
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: a gymnast growing up, and great calves, great calves.

919
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: Great Caves, great Kass, admirable calves. And it's really fastball.

920
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 4: I wasn't even a cutter. His fastball would just cut.

921
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 4: And he tried to throw a sinker and it was

922
00:44:54,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: a four steamer. Great teammate, like always smiled very uh,

923
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 4: very big into facial expressions when he pitched, go back

924
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 4: and look into one curveball that he that he hit

925
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: Gary Sanchez with. So his his reaction is pretty much

926
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 4: the same as everybody's reaction.

927
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 2: But good for you, d Rob. What a guy.

928
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, congratulations on a heck of a career. H pleasure

929
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: to watch him play pitch for all those all those years.

930
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: All right, tomorrow, Scott Braun is back. It's exciting. Harrison

931
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: Vaders is going to be on the show. Yeah, Harrison Vaders.

932
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: Tomorrow.

933
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: New York Yankees pitcher Ryan Weathers. But that's right, because

934
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Speaker 1: it didn't Bader go to Florida. He's a UF guy.

935
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Speaker 3: He did, yes after I had to wear the sweatshirt today,

936
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: after Florida whooped Alabama and basketball and the coach guaranteed

937
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: they would whoop their ass, and they whooped that ass. Okay,

938
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: even with an NBA player, even with all I hear about.

939
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Speaker 1: Is I will be in Kingsville in May for Morgan Wallin.

940
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, steel are crats. What's your hat?

941
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: Columbus Clippers? I mean played there. I watched Richie hit

942
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 4: tons of dingers in the bushes.

943
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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the show, Richie. Thanks to John

944
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: coming on and Jim as well, our territory. We'll see

945
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Speaker 1: you guys. Smort I