1
00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,720
Speaker 1: And it's Drink Chess, motherfucking podcast. He's a legend, Darry

2
00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,000
Speaker 1: Queen's rapper. He ain't segreed? Is your boy in O

3
00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,280
Speaker 1: R He's a Miami hippop lionem up his dj e FN.

4
00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,840
Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest

5
00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:33,000
Speaker 1: players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number

6
00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,920
Speaker 1: one source for drunk fast, drink chess, motherfuckings New year'sz

7
00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,160
Speaker 1: that it's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuck mother?

8
00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,080
Speaker 1: Would it good? Be Hopeully's would sent me this? Your

9
00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,280
Speaker 1: boy in O R E? What up? Is dj e

10
00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:58,360
Speaker 1: FN And this is drink Champs? Yap a medic? Sup? Now,

11
00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,760
Speaker 1: when I tell you, man, when we started this show,

12
00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,760
Speaker 1: we wanted to give people their flowers. You know that's

13
00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,840
Speaker 1: been in this game, and that's been season, that's been

14
00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, loyal to this game. And and when we

15
00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,880
Speaker 1: talk about these two brothers, uh, we're talking beyond legendary,

16
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,280
Speaker 1: we talk them beyond iconic. We're talking Tycoon, we're talking

17
00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:27,399
Speaker 1: global galaxy. We're talking new plan type of thing. These brothers,

18
00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,200
Speaker 1: I can't I can't you when you go through their catalog,

19
00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:37,920
Speaker 1: they take you three days thirty two albums, countless hits.

20
00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:44,920
Speaker 1: You can't name without them. They've been here, they are

21
00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,960
Speaker 1: doing it, They're still looking good. They pull them up

22
00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,200
Speaker 1: as printers, came late as hell as they important. We

23
00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:57,080
Speaker 1: had to wear presidential time, and we didn't keep playing

24
00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:03,720
Speaker 1: that one time. It's more even legendary. And man, I

25
00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,520
Speaker 1: just want to thank them because me listening to the

26
00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,519
Speaker 1: music and me going through it and me, you know,

27
00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,919
Speaker 1: knowing the struggles of how they started and where they

28
00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,480
Speaker 1: are now and they continue to be. And like mister

29
00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,760
Speaker 1: Lee was trying to say, a lot of our parents

30
00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:26,360
Speaker 1: was making baby music, I'm thinking millions if if I

31
00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,840
Speaker 1: could say it, there's a lot as millions of babies.

32
00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,520
Speaker 1: Generation was definitely more than one generation because these brothers,

33
00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,079
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie, it's probably everyone in this

34
00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:48,320
Speaker 1: every man man. I'll be honest. Man, Um, you know,

35
00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,880
Speaker 1: being fans of y'all and being in the presence of y'all,

36
00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,600
Speaker 1: it's like it's like, yeah, everything that I expect y'all

37
00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,640
Speaker 1: to be. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying, like, y'all,

38
00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:03,720
Speaker 1: you smooth smooths walk head the drench col on when

39
00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,880
Speaker 1: you got the leavel just y'all just walk in and

40
00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,440
Speaker 1: y'all a definitely, I'll be ane something. You are the

41
00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040
Speaker 1: iconic figure that I thought you was gonna be. Let's

42
00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,440
Speaker 1: make that. So I usually wait, it usually wait for

43
00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,280
Speaker 1: the for the to get into the drinks. But I'm

44
00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,239
Speaker 1: gonna get into the drink. Yeah, let's give me a

45
00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,080
Speaker 1: flower and the flowers. Let's listen. Our show is about

46
00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,520
Speaker 1: giving people um like again, I hate I hate our

47
00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,000
Speaker 1: people when it comes to this. When what I mean

48
00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,160
Speaker 1: by that is they put a time limit on on

49
00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,360
Speaker 1: you and they say, yo, man, if you got ten

50
00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,920
Speaker 1: twenty years and it's over and you should I don't.

51
00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,120
Speaker 1: We don't believe in that. Here and here we believe

52
00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,600
Speaker 1: that that season. We believe that that is what time

53
00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,680
Speaker 1: with wine. Wine get better with time. So why why

54
00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't music, Why wouldn't people? Why wouldn't us don't sell

55
00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,520
Speaker 1: them in on an artistry? So where this show is

56
00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,640
Speaker 1: about giving people their flowers. We want to off top,

57
00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,320
Speaker 1: give you all y'all flowers of top off top right

58
00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,960
Speaker 1: now top yes, yes, yeah, and we can't tell my

59
00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:14,680
Speaker 1: drake I want my yes, yes, this is yes, yes, yeah,

60
00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:25,280
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. Yeah, so let's I got so much notes, man,

61
00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,120
Speaker 1: I went so hard for this, you want to start,

62
00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,400
Speaker 1: Let's just take it back. Let's as far as we

63
00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,279
Speaker 1: can go. Where's the inspiration for you guys? Actually thinking

64
00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,799
Speaker 1: about it, you guys, there weren't many family groups and bands.

65
00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,680
Speaker 1: You know, everybody thinks of the Jackson five, but you

66
00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,520
Speaker 1: predate them, right right. So was there any other inspirations

67
00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,560
Speaker 1: as as a family unit to make music? Well, we

68
00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,400
Speaker 1: you know what, we followed people like Clarde make Fatter,

69
00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, and the day and uh, actually our my

70
00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,440
Speaker 1: mother and fathers was in the in the business, and

71
00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,680
Speaker 1: they were raised us to do what we do. And uh,

72
00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:13,080
Speaker 1: they wanted us to be a group that knew knew

73
00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:20,200
Speaker 1: all the songs, Warren By, gospel, country, Western, everything. They

74
00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,359
Speaker 1: taught us all that and they said for the group

75
00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,279
Speaker 1: to last as long as the meals of brothers. You know.

76
00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:34,359
Speaker 1: I think we accomplished, you know. And so our first

77
00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,760
Speaker 1: hit record was in eighteen fifty nine. You know, you

78
00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:46,240
Speaker 1: make me want to shout to this day. Of course.

79
00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,240
Speaker 1: Of course we've been charted all the way up to

80
00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:56,000
Speaker 1: right now, in eight decades our album right now, we

81
00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,480
Speaker 1: uh just been on the charts for five weeks it

82
00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,000
Speaker 1: was number one, and for thirty weeks has been in

83
00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,679
Speaker 1: the top ten. It was number six. Nowns with Beyonce,

84
00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,040
Speaker 1: goddamn us. And that's a record that Beyonce record. That's

85
00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,880
Speaker 1: a record that had already been sampled from y'all already too.

86
00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,520
Speaker 1: That is UM I believe it's cross Roads from um

87
00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,640
Speaker 1: Bones and I believe that Street James Remix were not like,

88
00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's crazy. The third or fourth time in

89
00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,200
Speaker 1: Beyonce wants to come and sample. How is that? Her

90
00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,040
Speaker 1: mother knows UM contact. She's one of our favorite fans.

91
00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,520
Speaker 1: You know, we had more samples than James Brown. Wow,

92
00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,440
Speaker 1: and James Brown had a lot last last encounter, we

93
00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,159
Speaker 1: were over a thousand samples. Yes, with the rappers and

94
00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,880
Speaker 1: you know and which is which? Which is like we

95
00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,520
Speaker 1: were the flag right? So how was that? Getting a

96
00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,440
Speaker 1: call saying that Beyonce wanted to work with y'all and

97
00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,239
Speaker 1: especially well, like I called her mother and then said,

98
00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, we getting ready to do this album. Wanted

99
00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,000
Speaker 1: her to do little you know, the record with us.

100
00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,120
Speaker 1: Her mother called her and she in five minutes she

101
00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,840
Speaker 1: called back, yes, yes, yes, I want to do and

102
00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,240
Speaker 1: she had record at the record with the her group people,

103
00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,600
Speaker 1: but it was, you know, a different recording, and so

104
00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:26,280
Speaker 1: we decided on that record. Man. You know, she's so talented, man,

105
00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean, she's so talented. I think the people know that.

106
00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,480
Speaker 1: They don't know that, but but she's so she worked

107
00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,960
Speaker 1: so hard man, and we just were blown away with

108
00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,360
Speaker 1: the record. Her mother cried about it. Her favorite song

109
00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:53,040
Speaker 1: is uh A little love of You, you know. And

110
00:07:53,160 --> 00:08:00,360
Speaker 1: we did songs with Rick Cross recently, Yeah, don't you.

111
00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:06,280
Speaker 1: We did songs with Quevo, take Off, Wow, We did

112
00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:12,680
Speaker 1: songs with Shane by uh Snoop Dogg. You know, and

113
00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,240
Speaker 1: if you ain't did song with them, they sampled you

114
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:23,760
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. I couldn't believe how sampled you. Guys

115
00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,680
Speaker 1: were like I knew it, but didn't when you know,

116
00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing the research. But let me ask you one

117
00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,320
Speaker 1: thing because at this time, you know, um hip hop

118
00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,800
Speaker 1: used to be considered a fad, right. It was like,

119
00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's something that people are doing in the hood.

120
00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,880
Speaker 1: Did you was you Was it ever concerned of you saying,

121
00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,400
Speaker 1: you know what, someone taking my classic record of minds

122
00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,120
Speaker 1: is doing it over or um? Was it ever concerned

123
00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,920
Speaker 1: like them messing up the legacy of it. My brother

124
00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,680
Speaker 1: Ernie called me when the Biggie did uh, and we

125
00:08:54,280 --> 00:09:04,599
Speaker 1: celebrated when the flipped out you know when you call me.

126
00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,720
Speaker 1: We put a part of them in that show. Now

127
00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,000
Speaker 1: ice Cube, ice Cube is one of my best friends,

128
00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, wow, and where you're going too fast on

129
00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,640
Speaker 1: you can't be coming from ice Cube. The biggest smalls

130
00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,559
Speaker 1: we got at it is he was just saying it

131
00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,520
Speaker 1: like it's a regular note. This is not regular people.

132
00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,040
Speaker 1: Hold on, okay, and he's not regular records too. These

133
00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,800
Speaker 1: records are huge. That's what's the crazy. We had George

134
00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,840
Speaker 1: Clinton on recently, right, and the difference that we noticed

135
00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,199
Speaker 1: was George have a lot of samples as well, but

136
00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,920
Speaker 1: it seems like the samples that sample, y'all, it's the

137
00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,920
Speaker 1: huge records. Yeah, like like huge, Like, um, so where

138
00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,000
Speaker 1: are you at? Because ice Cube coming comes way before Biggie?

139
00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,160
Speaker 1: So when is you you at? Where what is the record? Label?

140
00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,880
Speaker 1: Call you and say ice Cube just did your record over? Yeah? Okay,

141
00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,240
Speaker 1: and what did they say? They say? Let's say, you know,

142
00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,600
Speaker 1: we wanted to listen, you know, so we listen to say, man,

143
00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,520
Speaker 1: just this is incredible, right, because you guys haven't clear, right,

144
00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,800
Speaker 1: So when the sign I want, I want to do

145
00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,080
Speaker 1: one of your songs and every picture that I made.

146
00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:15,480
Speaker 1: That's what he's so, which is a blessing. Yeah, but uh,

147
00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,240
Speaker 1: everybody is. I don't know how many samples in between

148
00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,640
Speaker 1: the sheets, right earned you keeps something with a lot

149
00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,160
Speaker 1: of that, you know, but that's that's that's the same

150
00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,760
Speaker 1: one biggie sample and I'm Drake also draking. Little Wayne

151
00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,559
Speaker 1: did a freestyle over it as well. Jay Z and

152
00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:47,560
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston. To Jesus, Jesus, I'll just be honest because

153
00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,400
Speaker 1: you know this, This is when I think of black excellence.

154
00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,880
Speaker 1: When I think of excellence period, I think of you brothers, man,

155
00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,360
Speaker 1: I really do. Because like to stand the test of

156
00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,280
Speaker 1: time and to still be who you are, that's that's

157
00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,880
Speaker 1: a hard that's a hard thing to do. Wow, that's

158
00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,600
Speaker 1: a hard thing to do, man, to still have the respect.

159
00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,760
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. I can ask any

160
00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy generation about the Odsley's brothers and they all they're

161
00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,520
Speaker 1: all going to answer with the same amount of respect.

162
00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,440
Speaker 1: Do you understand how much you would love to reved

163
00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,480
Speaker 1: in in the community. Wow? Wow, that's that's amazing, man. Okay,

164
00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,520
Speaker 1: it's really amazing. We came at what people are like

165
00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,520
Speaker 1: Sam Cook, Jackie Wilson, you you name it, you know

166
00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,240
Speaker 1: they were. We learned things from Sam Cook, I learned

167
00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,920
Speaker 1: things from Jackie Wilson, clad Nick Fatter. I mean, you

168
00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,000
Speaker 1: can go all the way back and I can tell

169
00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,320
Speaker 1: you stories about all those guys. Man, right, you know,

170
00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,760
Speaker 1: Jimmy Henri lifted jersey right in Jersey. That's crazy. I

171
00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,079
Speaker 1: was trying to get to that in my notes. You

172
00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,680
Speaker 1: made this first record with us, you know, testify, and

173
00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,360
Speaker 1: we never thought I mean, we thought he was the

174
00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,720
Speaker 1: greatest guitar player in the world, but we never thought

175
00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,439
Speaker 1: that he would you know, become before he went, you

176
00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:14,440
Speaker 1: know to acid yeo. And my brother was like playing baseball.

177
00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,840
Speaker 1: Then when you started playing with us, our players drums,

178
00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,560
Speaker 1: and he talked to Jimmy Hendricks every day, and all

179
00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:29,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Hey, he's the next Americs, you know, man,

180
00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, all that's been wonderful. God blessed us. Man.

181
00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,640
Speaker 1: Our father mother was concerned with us. She said, never

182
00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:45,280
Speaker 1: do drugs. No one in the family had did any drugs,

183
00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's a big part of

184
00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,920
Speaker 1: us with asking this long, you know, but God had

185
00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,880
Speaker 1: his hands on us all the way. This is a

186
00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,840
Speaker 1: rumor that you was singing in church at two years old. Yes,

187
00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:07,439
Speaker 1: I was, Well, you know about it all because I

188
00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,240
Speaker 1: remember reading this story, hearing this story, and I'm sitting

189
00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,040
Speaker 1: back and I had to think about my grandmother in church,

190
00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,200
Speaker 1: and my grandmother told me up there and be like, well,

191
00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't sing ship, so I ain't win l twenty

192
00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,520
Speaker 1: five dollars right, yeah, twenty five one one. I was

193
00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,600
Speaker 1: standing on a chair. So yeah, wow, that's great. Did

194
00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,160
Speaker 1: your your mom ain't do that? You ain't? You ain't? Yeah,

195
00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,480
Speaker 1: you sonny, Sonny, your mom wasn't proud of you like that.

196
00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. I'm sorry I took a shot

197
00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,040
Speaker 1: at my friend. It's just come all over the place. Man. Okay,

198
00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,000
Speaker 1: mmm see that he already took my Jimmy jury questions.

199
00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,800
Speaker 1: Talk about fight the power that that Chuck d was

200
00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,360
Speaker 1: inspired by You're power? Oh yeah, Ernie wrote that. Yeah.

201
00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,920
Speaker 1: We uh had our family uh after we finished the

202
00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:01,800
Speaker 1: Living Up album literally seventy four Uh, our mother, nieces

203
00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,840
Speaker 1: and nephews and the wives came out and I was

204
00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,640
Speaker 1: in a good mood and I jumped in the shower

205
00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,320
Speaker 1: and for some reason I started half singing or reciting.

206
00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,880
Speaker 1: Time is truly wasting. There's no guarantee smiles in the making.

207
00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,320
Speaker 1: Fight the powers that beat and so point this way,

208
00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,080
Speaker 1: shower curtain went that way. Water is everywhere, And I

209
00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,160
Speaker 1: jumped out the shower and grabbed a pencil, piece of paper,

210
00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,000
Speaker 1: scribble that down and put that in my hip pocket.

211
00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,080
Speaker 1: Of when we went to Disneyland that day. I didn't

212
00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,160
Speaker 1: say anything about that song for another two or three months,

213
00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,240
Speaker 1: but telling me you wrote a hit record and then

214
00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:54,560
Speaker 1: went to Disneyland, Yeah, like the commercial. Yeah, okay, but

215
00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,080
Speaker 1: at the time Hernie started writing song I got Harvest

216
00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,200
Speaker 1: for the World and you at your best, um, and

217
00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,360
Speaker 1: make me say it again, the song I'm Not Now,

218
00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,600
Speaker 1: and on and on and on. You know, I wrote

219
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,240
Speaker 1: a lot of songs at the beginning before he got

220
00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,520
Speaker 1: into the group, the ter thing and shout and all

221
00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,040
Speaker 1: that type, you know, work to do. Yeah, now this

222
00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,320
Speaker 1: is something that um that I got. I got explained

223
00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,400
Speaker 1: to the other day. Um. People said that, you know,

224
00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,119
Speaker 1: people looked at the Beatles in a more of respect

225
00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,760
Speaker 1: way than they looked at Elvis, because they said Elvis

226
00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,600
Speaker 1: would like you know, like I don't want to say still,

227
00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,120
Speaker 1: but he would take from people that wouldn't give it

228
00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,040
Speaker 1: the credit as opposed to the Beatles, but the Beatles

229
00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,280
Speaker 1: would your situation with the Beatles with shout was, how

230
00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,560
Speaker 1: was that experience? Well, when we went to England, they

231
00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:51,720
Speaker 1: were imitating us. They were like doing about the Beatles

232
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,240
Speaker 1: or everybody was and they you know, Paul McCartney will

233
00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,880
Speaker 1: tell you today you know what to say if it

234
00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,160
Speaker 1: don't be for the Eyes brothers, and we would still

235
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,160
Speaker 1: be in Liverpool, you know. Yeah, I'm assuming Liverpool is

236
00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:11,560
Speaker 1: the hood and ye and England. Yes, that's when he

237
00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:17,120
Speaker 1: started off clubs and stuff. They're in Liverpool, yell. But yeah,

238
00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,680
Speaker 1: that so all right? So they want to cover your song, right, yeah,

239
00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,520
Speaker 1: so at the time, I'm assuming there's not a lot

240
00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,200
Speaker 1: of videos. There's not so, but do you know the

241
00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,200
Speaker 1: Beatles as white people when they when it comes to

242
00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,400
Speaker 1: you when we were over there every day, the Rolling Stones,

243
00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,960
Speaker 1: Beetles and us was together at night. They were talking

244
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,480
Speaker 1: about staying at the house when they come to to

245
00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,360
Speaker 1: New York City. They were asking questions like does James

246
00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,000
Speaker 1: Brown had to have a hundred pair of shoes and

247
00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,000
Speaker 1: do we shine those shoes before we go on stage,

248
00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,840
Speaker 1: because you guys were the rock starts to them. Yeah, yeah,

249
00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,360
Speaker 1: and uh, we said all those questions. You know, there

250
00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,960
Speaker 1: were plenty questions and game. We got a hunder passion.

251
00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,600
Speaker 1: You call the shoes every day when you say, well,

252
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,119
Speaker 1: you care a lot of them. So those are the

253
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,560
Speaker 1: kind of questions. They can we stay at your house

254
00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,080
Speaker 1: when we can with you guys carross to the Pole?

255
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,080
Speaker 1: Did wow? We promised to do all that. It was

256
00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,959
Speaker 1: just the three brothers then. And uh, actually when they

257
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,320
Speaker 1: when they came to New York, there were the hottest

258
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think they first get it was at

259
00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,520
Speaker 1: Sullivan you know, on television. Fifty thousand people look reat them,

260
00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, wow, and so everything just went wild. Then, Yeah,

261
00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,879
Speaker 1: that's crazy. And when you guys were in London, didn't

262
00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,240
Speaker 1: Elton John play with you guys? Yeah, the Elton Johns

263
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,320
Speaker 1: and I keep boarding player. That's incredible. Yeah, and and

264
00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do that in the in the next

265
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,040
Speaker 1: album that we're doing it, we'll do a record together. Yeah.

266
00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,200
Speaker 1: But he was his name Elton John back then. Elton

267
00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,080
Speaker 1: John told us, y'all should listen to something you should

268
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:15,480
Speaker 1: vote on a hundred songs. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't listen

269
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,440
Speaker 1: to because he was just a hired hand at the time, right,

270
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,040
Speaker 1: but we were just without and uh what a week ago, Yeah,

271
00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,840
Speaker 1: the Motown thing for Barry Gordian smoking, oh yeah, and

272
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,399
Speaker 1: we talked about you know, and he's he's gonna do

273
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,679
Speaker 1: a song with us and Mariah Carey and you know

274
00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:43,920
Speaker 1: all that. So Elton Is is just so talented man,

275
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,320
Speaker 1: He's just great song writer and his tour has done uh,

276
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 1: just tremendous, tremendous business. Right yeah, right now, now something

277
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,240
Speaker 1: I was uh asking, This is something I question. I

278
00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,840
Speaker 1: actually don't know. Some people call motown and they when

279
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,560
Speaker 1: they say motown, they say that label. But then some

280
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,399
Speaker 1: people say motown and they say the style of music.

281
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 1: How do you look when you hit the word motown. Well,

282
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 1: they're actually one of the greatest companies. We learned so

283
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 1: much when we went there. We went there out there,

284
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 1: we had did Twisted, Shout and Shout and some other records,

285
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 1: and we had a pretty big name. And our first

286
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 1: record there was this so Heart of Mine. That's the

287
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 1: first release went out there. A week I called Berry

288
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,399
Speaker 1: guarded up saying I'm coming. We're coming to send send

289
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 1: three tickets. We'll be out there and and he said, oh, okay,

290
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,360
Speaker 1: you know I thought that's where it was done. Anyway,

291
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 1: we went out there and we heard, we heard with

292
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 1: the Holland Indulger and uh. One of the songs that

293
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 1: we did and we picked was this art of Mine

294
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 1: and it came out because we we're gonna be out

295
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 1: there playing some club. Anyway, they wanted to release a record,

296
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 1: you know, something new on us, and they put that

297
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 1: out hands a demo. We're not gonna just went about

298
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 1: number one record. Yeah, just so long and right. That

299
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,479
Speaker 1: was the record they asked us to do at the

300
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: at the show. You know, so being number one at

301
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 1: that time, Um, all the time and travel and traveling

302
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: like was there toll buses? How was it? How? How

303
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: did your travel? Stevie wonder what was coming across the

304
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 1: street and then cars was going. We're talking about what

305
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: somebody had stories, stories, get crazy crazy. Shock said he

306
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 1: wanted the elevator with Stevie. He was just him Stevie.

307
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: So you're telling me Stevie. One of course the street

308
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: by myself, man gonna get America. Did he know he

309
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 1: was crossing the free I didn't know. I don't know.

310
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: It was holy shit, I was you know, I was

311
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: trying to visit. No, no, no, none of that. No no, no, no,

312
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: no walking stick, none of that. He just wore, Holy man.

313
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 1: Hold we're shining in the cab. We got in the cabin,

314
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: pulled up to the company and said, charge it to Motown. Wow,

315
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: that's it, we did, say, got on to me. You

316
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: told the cap changed to Motown from Marathon. We pulled

317
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: up in front of the company, said ya, I don't

318
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: know what the meter said, but he said, charge of

319
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: the motown. Wow. What was that? How powerful motile was that?

320
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if they knew they were so oh,

321
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: let me ask you. Right, one thing is like, what's

322
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 1: happening at this time was segregation? Right? Well, one thing

323
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: I won't telling you. When I wrote the song it's

324
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: your thing. They very guardin't them sued us. That's the

325
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: first time they got sued. He sued us because they

326
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 1: thought that holland indulgence. Some of their writers said, bro,

327
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, so we back and forth you know that

328
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: with the court, and we wind up winning. You know,

329
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: but that that was one of the the things that

330
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: really hurt us, you know, your own kind because yeah,

331
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: because he didn't believe or that song is super big,

332
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: like y'all couldn't have wrote it. Yeah, And from that

333
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: time on, you know, I guess we did every song

334
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: that you you hear, you know, the majority of songs

335
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: that you hear, and it's successful by the highest of brothers. Yeah,

336
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: h oh. Yes. We started Tea Neck Records with this

337
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: your thing, okay, Yeah, and you know we learned what

338
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: we were doing out there Motown and what they were doing. Uh,

339
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: that was it. You know, we figured, uh, that was

340
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: the way to go. And it turned out here we

341
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: could release what we wanted to release when we wanted

342
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: to release it. And then we then we started doing

343
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: our own tours. When indy that's a debate we have

344
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: here versus being independent. I mean Motown they were at

345
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: the time, you know they were, Yeah, it was an

346
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: indie that that had major But we talked about the

347
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: debate where there's major label versus independent. And I'm always

348
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: saying independent owning your stuff, that's the way to go,

349
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: right versus the mayne give me the money. I don't

350
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: want to work that hard. You got the money, go

351
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: independent from Motown and you took what you learned and

352
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: you put it to work. That's correct. And the record

353
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: that we have about now on the album we haven't

354
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: out now it is independent. Wow. Um, this is just

355
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: something I was trying to say earlier because I think

356
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: I've seen footage of you guys at Sam Cook one day,

357
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: and I think that what they were saying was they

358
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't let the brothers or the brothers and assistants on

359
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: one side of the club. So you and Sam Cook,

360
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: I think y'all got on the bus and then left.

361
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know about that. I think that, but

362
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: that's happened with someone else, Okay, but Sam Cook, I

363
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: think that happened with Jackie Wilson, Okay, okay, on the

364
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: two together. Yeah. So so what how how hard was

365
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: that back then because like, like you know, there was

366
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: a segregation, like how could you perform? You know, it

367
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: was very hard, but you know, ruarde young after age,

368
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: we didn't really understand it. You know, we didn't understand

369
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: that somebody would kill you or somebody you know, you know,

370
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: we always start run. You know, how old were you guys?

371
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: Exactly around I was abound eighteen, you know, kids yeah, yeah,

372
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: damn man, seventeen eighteen on the road. And that had

373
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: to be like a crazy because all the times that

374
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: black people were going through, and then people taking political

375
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: stances like Muhammad Ali and things like that, and then

376
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: and then Sam Cook and then like all these people

377
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: like I just always you know, it was crazy back then.

378
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: We didn't have television to get out of our message

379
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: or Sam Cook, you stopped them. It's like, give me

380
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: your ticket, don't you know? Wow, If you don't gonna

381
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: give me a ticket, put the chicken on. You know,

382
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying Cook I said, was saying, yeah, he cleared,

383
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: he cleared. Woman. Oh my god, man, I'm so excited.

384
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't taking anything off anyone. So that's probably one of

385
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: you know, wow. But after you guys decided to go independent,

386
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: you did go with major neighbors later on, Yeah, what

387
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: what what was those distributions for distributions so still owning

388
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: taking advantage of the machine at that point. That's all right, right, right,

389
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: that's all right because there were so many cases of

390
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: like people being taking an advantage of and and that time,

391
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: was that something you guys ever experienced? Yeah, well, you know,

392
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia International was was going then and then

393
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: later on Curtis Mayfield and this company out of Chicago.

394
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: It's going then movetown and our company, you know, and

395
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: Stacks came a little later. Now, let's let's address this.

396
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: This is yours, right, Yeah, what is this? Sexy ass bottle?

397
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: Kanac thirty five years old? Thirty five year old? Hun yeah,

398
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: got them look at that. This is a sexy ass bottle? Old, okay,

399
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: baron select, Yeah, we're messing with that for a little

400
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: while out sometimes this year. Look, that's a sexy as bottle.

401
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: Make sure they focusing on that, the sexy ass bottle.

402
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Look at that. It looked like it looked like a

403
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: person like me ain't posed to had this. Because it's

404
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna break it. I'm gonna break especially him.

405
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: He can't hold nothing. Oh look see damn this that's

406
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: a back rock bottle. Yeah, this is class for sidified.

407
00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: He's looking coming into the back of rock bottle. You

408
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: got two o them? What's that? What's this? This? This?

409
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: Uh will be? This is I think this is forty

410
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: years old. Okay, Yeah, and that's a that's a Kanyak tool. Yes, okay,

411
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: let me let me check that out okay. Oh the

412
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: sexy too. So what's Baron select? It's a company that

413
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: uh uh he's a dentist. Uh. His his family died

414
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: and left him the whole company in French. Okay, and

415
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: uh he knows all of our songs from the beginning

416
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: to the end. And we've been talking together for about

417
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: over three or four years, and we decided to come

418
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: with these, you know. And they named the uh Kanyak

419
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: got to me And yeah, that signature right there is

420
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: right there, look at that right there. Yeah, and so

421
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: uh it will be out sometime sometimes this year, okay.

422
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna give the van the fans a

423
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: chance to be a part of that, the liquor too. Yeah,

424
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: have them, have them sit with you me and Greek

425
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: shit like that. Yes, my damn holy motion. You said

426
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a part of the liquor house, Like

427
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a stock company. So they're gonna they're

428
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: gonna be able to participate in owning it. That's amazing,

429
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: like the Green Bay Packers, Okay, something like that. The

430
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: only only sports people got that got that, like an

431
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: NFT I don't like, what's the other bottle there? Scotch.

432
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: Oh you got a Scotch too. Yeah, Oh okay, I'm

433
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: a Japanese whiskey guy. That's still close to it. It's

434
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: eighteen years ye look at that all three sexy bottles

435
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: all and look this is your ship, right, that's what

436
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 1: you You gotta taste that. Yeah, okay, that's the car.

437
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah guy right there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you want

438
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: to take that, Kanye, come on. In fact, we're gonna

439
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna go into quick Time with Slime. We got

440
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: a part of that game where we take shots to

441
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: the show. You don't have you guys have to take shots.

442
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: But he could be your sacrifice shot. Take it right there.

443
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: He could be your sacrifice liver liver donor Yes, we

444
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: got quick time with Slime. Ready sending it over? Okay, cool? Yeah,

445
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: the bottom whichever one. Yeah, Sunny's don't touch that bocka

446
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: ron Now he worked. I'm telling y'all that that's my friend.

447
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: That's my friend, that type. We don't let him drink

448
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: the spade either, so you don't feel bad. Don't feel bad.

449
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm killing that. I'm killing that, all right. Cool, drink

450
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: for them, Yeah, Sunny, we drink for y'all. So y'all

451
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: we can take a shots. You don't have to take

452
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: the shots. Okay, you got it, I got it all right.

453
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: You want to splay them the game? If so, we're

454
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna give you two choices. Um, you pick one, none

455
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: of us drink. If you pick both, are neither the

456
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: policeically correct answer. We're all drinking. Yeah, we're gonna drink. Yeah,

457
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: we drink with him. We didn't leave him out. Okay,

458
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: you want to start it off. He let it go. Hell,

459
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: you're ready. Yes, the Beatles are the rolling Stones Beatles. Frip.

460
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: You got a different answer, you know. I'm just saying, Okay,

461
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: I like that biggie or twopop Biggie up. You gotta

462
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: drink and disagreed. We got we gotta drink. We gotta

463
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: drink too. I got damn any reason why. You can

464
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: explain why if you want to, Well, we like him,

465
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: like yes, yeah, if he had to said biggie, I

466
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: would have said too, that's beautiful, that's beautiful. Would have

467
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: kept the peace. Okay, but we gotta take a shot.

468
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: You gotta take a shot too. I'm waiting for my shot.

469
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I don't get paid someone here that

470
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: they do to get here. Man, come you got your shot?

471
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh here, boring your I told you I'm not independent, Yes,

472
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: lesson give me my major budget. I am not an

473
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: independent guy. I was just playing, all right, Nicholas Good, Yeah,

474
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: you go go take that one. Jimmy Hendricks or Santana, Santana.

475
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: I gotta say, Jimmy Hendricks, Hey, y'all doing this practice? Jimmy.

476
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: You know. I met Jimmie Hendricks after my brothers hired him.

477
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: I was eleven years old. And uh, after the Beatles

478
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: did that first show on as Sullivan not too long

479
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: after that, my brother Kelly brothers had a meeting and uh,

480
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: he said, uh, these guys from Britain, it's Beatles things.

481
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: There's no hype, this is real. They got two guitar players,

482
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: but we got Jimmy. And that was just the way

483
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: he said. It looked over Jimmy when he said that,

484
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: and Jimmy was grinning ear to eat. So I imagine

485
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: if Jimmy had been around when that lady came out,

486
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: he would have given me something between a bear hug

487
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: and the tackle and say, how did you ever learn

488
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: how to do that? And one he was in the

489
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: dining room, man he was in the dining room plan,

490
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: you was in the living room plan. I was listening that, Jimmy,

491
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: it was so great eating Santana. Hold on, what did

492
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: you just say? You just said the good say did

493
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: you just say they got two good tall players? But

494
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: we m Jimmy and that was right? That was right,

495
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: h Santana would say, crazy, yeah, but yeah, and I'm

496
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: crazy about Carlos too. Yeah, he's fabulous musician. Is there

497
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: any truth that Jimmy didn't know how to write the music?

498
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: You know? I don't know if Jimmy knew he was

499
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: that they're good, because every day he walked around where

500
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: they had a guitar or not a stick in his hand,

501
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: just stick. I see you still walked in with a

502
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: gut tar just now, yeah, well have to do that.

503
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: Come on, It's like that's uh, it's another link for you.

504
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Great sense of contentment and emotional security. Uh, crazy about

505
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: the instrument. Wow, that's commitment to the crowd. A lie um.

506
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: I so enjoy when you walked in with the guitar,

507
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: because I was like, yes, it's like it's like you

508
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: want to see for the guitar. You want to see Santana.

509
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: And then you see you walk into them like he

510
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: did it. I'll be I want to see my heroes

511
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: with their caps on, you know what I mean. I'm sorry.

512
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: I want to ansk one question, Yes, please, How did

513
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: you guys come up with this show? Man? It shows

514
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: so great? We we were getting drunk about the studio

515
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: and he would play poker and I would recall it

516
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: records and we would come out the end of the

517
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: night and we would just see, um, who would who

518
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: would be lasted and we would call them drink champs.

519
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: But beyond that, really what the show was about was

520
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: us being disgusted when people, you know, have you know,

521
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: this longevity in the game. And then in our culture

522
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: they have this word called washed up. And I hate

523
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: this word because that doesn't exist in no other culture.

524
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: No other culture says, well they're washed up and roller

525
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: stones and you know these guys what these guys what

526
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: they kiss when they face they go on tour forever

527
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: and they talus it's don't change and everything. No, nobody

528
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: don't even care. Like but you know, and their culture

529
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: they can do that, Like why we can't do that

530
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: in our culture and not imitate them. We be who

531
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: we are and that's what I wanted to do. I

532
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: wanted to praise, you know, people such as yourself, because

533
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: you guys deserve to be praised and believe it or not,

534
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: shit Without y'all guys, music, y'all foundation, this show doesn't exist.

535
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying him? Oh yeah, if you

536
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: don't give me my shot though, right, him as a

537
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: DJ doesn't exist, me as an artist and doesn't exist.

538
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: And then us forming this platform together. Um, that's total amateurs.

539
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: By the way. It was just us wanting to have

540
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: conversations with icons and legends and our peers and get

541
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: these stories that we might have heard backstage or or

542
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: in the studio, but nobody else was hearing them. And

543
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: I agree with you being amateursts as far as media

544
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: and journalism go. But we were at amateurs right right

545
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: as far as fans and knowing the coach and knowing

546
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: how important people are and knowing that it takes nothing

547
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: away for me to praise you and tell you how

548
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: great great you guys are to your face, face to face,

549
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: man to man. It takes nothing away from me. In fact,

550
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: it get ads on to me because it makes me

551
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: a better man, because I know where I came from

552
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: I know really yeah, I feel like I feel good

553
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: about that to make a shot. Drink that drink that

554
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: major label shot. You're gonna make sure I take that, okay,

555
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 1: all right? Cool? Um oh, I like this one ice

556
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: cube switch I'm telling jay Z tomorrow, I just playing.

557
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: Um oh, I like this one ice cube or Snoop Dog?

558
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, you answer? Oh uh, I'll say ice cube

559
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: footsteps in the Dark song I wrote. That's right, that's right,

560
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: he sampled, and uh, I know, uh the there's a

561
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: video game GTA that uses Footsteps in the dark. Go ahead,

562
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: and I cu today what's a good thing? And then

563
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: it's still isile. Some people know it, you know, from

564
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: Easley and some people know it from him. So you know,

565
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: I Snoop Dog. You know, Snoop Dog is the number one.

566
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: Is the number this honestly tell whole the truth. Snoop Dog,

567
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: out of all the rappers is the number one rapper.

568
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 1: God dam gonna take a shot for that. Take a shot.

569
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: And and you know what's crazy, Shopper Snoop as a

570
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: barbecue every year. I love to be as barbecues. And

571
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: then I always look at the DJ because they're gonna

572
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: play one version. They're gonna play the biggie version version.

573
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: Now you know now with the rappers down, people like

574
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: jay Z, people like uh, the the guy I wanted

575
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: to when the war would those guys are so great, incredible,

576
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: it's so great you listening at the lyrics and of

577
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: some of the new rappers now you know, just and

578
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: the fastness. I mean, my brother in law had to

579
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: let me know about how great uh Kendrick, No, what's

580
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: the he' he raps faster, bust A ryndust around. I

581
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: mean I looked at bust A rynds not let's words

582
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: come out that game and you know, so I want

583
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: to give them all the credit they deserve. Many I

584
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: have to say too, when you guys start talking about

585
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: this person of that person, they both have to be

586
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: at the table. That's that's why I both deserved trying

587
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: to check him and just get drunk. Now, you know,

588
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to say what you want ye

589
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: snoop or you want ice c and be like, oh

590
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: now it's a trick. Qust do it to get guests drunk.

591
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: But y'all ogs, we we can't try to give you

592
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: our shots and things like that unless y'all want it,

593
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: but we're gonna get he gonna get um how you

594
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: call it, how you call it when you were spoke

595
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: a cigarette. Second, he gonna get second hand drunk. For y'all,

596
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: you know when we bring up the two names, because

597
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: we respect both, yea respect, So we just want to

598
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: have these conversations around these names. What if they like me? Man,

599
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: they look listen at your show every day I know

600
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: they've been listening. Will come out of my mouth because man,

601
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: I'll be listening to that everything. But this is one

602
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: of my favorite questions and stories. If we can story

603
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: with both, if you have if I with either with

604
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: both MJ or Prince m J, I like how you

605
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: said that. I have no problem with that. Okay, you

606
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: got a Michael Jackson's story. Oh man, tons, she's a

607
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and Prince asked a great talent, great talent,

608
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: which said Prince. So I just want to make sure

609
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: if this was the way it was going, I kind

610
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: of say, Michael Jackson, Okay, Michael Jackson was a king

611
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: of all. Yeah right, yeah, to tell us something Michael

612
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: Jackson stories tell you. Okay, we were at a CBS

613
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: Driking convention in seventy eight, and I came down and

614
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: when Robael came down after me, you know, I didn't know,

615
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, that we were gonna both go or for

616
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: a time or whatever. But when we got when I

617
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: came into the room, I noticed that there was this

618
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: group of people all in like pale blue took sedos.

619
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: It turned out that it was the Jackson's and there

620
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: was this a little girl that had a pale Michael

621
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: and it was Janet. Janet. She was a little you know.

622
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: And I sat down at the table and I wasn't

623
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: there too long and somebody tapped me on my arm

624
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: and I turned around. It was Michael Hither. I said, hey, Mike,

625
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: how you doing? Man? He said, I ready for I

626
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: sit down. Come on, he handle thing. And we said

627
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: that for a little bit, and uh he said, um,

628
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: any d he could introduce me to your brother Ronald.

629
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: I said, come on, Michael, he knows you. You know him.

630
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: You know he's not gonna buys you in that light tan. Yeah,

631
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: but he might be busy you're thinking about. I said, okay,

632
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: I'll go over and ask him. So it's like something

633
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: out the Godfather. So I'll walk over to my brother

634
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: and I say, Michael Jackson wants to come over and

635
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 1: sit at the table with you, isn't all right? Ronald says,

636
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: it's all right. So I go back to my table

637
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: and I literally take Michael Jackson by his hand, like

638
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: he's six years old, and I'm walking him across the street.

639
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: And I walked him up to Ronald's table and I

640
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: say something like Michael Jackson, Ronald eis Ronald Eisley, Michael Jackson,

641
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: and the three of us just bust out laughing, you know,

642
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: and then I go away and I leave him, the

643
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: two of him, they're sitting at the table, and let

644
00:43:53,719 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Ronald tell you the rest. Well, he was just such

645
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: an a Mira meet and why how did songs and

646
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: this Latin? But uh, later as time went on and

647
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: on and on. You know, hey, if if I'm in

648
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: any town that they have a show or of Michael

649
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: Jackson on film, I'll stop to watch that show. And uh,

650
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: me and my wife was in New York and and

651
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: and and this color that uh the one, uh Grammy

652
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: or something. It's Tony Man. This show was one of

653
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: the greatest shows I ever you know, I ever watched.

654
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, we went back stage and talked to

655
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: everybody that on the owner that were on the show.

656
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: And you know which if you ever get a chancecle

657
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: in in New York, uh to see the show that

658
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: they're present, which Michael Jackson, it will explain everything to you.

659
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I just playing Michael Jackson. We just

660
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: want to play. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, you wouldn't yeah, yeah, yeah,

661
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: someone people talking about that. Yeah, it's so great, man,

662
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: it's so great. I'm glad that he wanted a Tony,

663
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: but it would it wouldn't be no doubt in your

664
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: mind where where the Tony was going to go to? No.

665
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: I heard that, that's crazy. I heard. I think I

666
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: heard Erica about due to see it, and I was

667
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I was like really yeah wow? And

668
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: how old was he when that introduction was made? Michael?

669
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: I was twenty six? You were and Michael, uh, he

670
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: would have been I said twenty He would have been

671
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty. It's more nineteen fifty eight when you

672
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: first made the voice. I picture Jackson five. Michael, that's

673
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: the same, like we know when he was talking, that's

674
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: how he But he seemed as a kid. He seemed

675
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: like he had an old soul. Oh yeah, yeah, but

676
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: that was how he was and you know and where

677
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: he uh just presented himself, you know, and and that

678
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: was him and and the rest of his brothers, you

679
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: know when I first came in, hen you know and

680
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: all that. And then Ronald told me later on that

681
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: he saw them all going to a huddle and then

682
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: Michael came out of the huddle and came to my table.

683
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: And then that's wow the conversation because the story is

684
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. Back cool, but I'm cooling at all. This

685
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 1: is awesome. Have you ever met Prince Prince? Yes? Good,

686
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: and just for the record, you met Michael. There's no

687
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: white glove right, not that time, like later on he

688
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: put on the white glove. Okay, boom and Prince is

689
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: this asked out Prince or the all I'm asking was

690
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere, um a club that was on Sunset in California,

691
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: not the Roxy, not the Roxy. And Prince was like

692
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: he was kind of big then, you know, and uh

693
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: with with Eddie Murphy and he introduced us. You know,

694
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: Prince was kind of you know, you know, you know,

695
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: like you was into showing this thing. You know. It

696
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: sounds like yo, man, you guys live real dope. Like, man,

697
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: I'll just be an honest. You want to take over

698
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: the Yeah yeah, James Brown or Rick James James Brown,

699
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: James James James would tell you that. I'll tell you.

700
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: I tell you. I want you to play this right.

701
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: I tell you the one story I met James Brown.

702
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: I said this on the stroke before I'm walking the

703
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: red carpet and I'm realizing, um, like you know, James

704
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: has his nephew or like like I don't know someone,

705
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: and he goes, Yo, that's that's that's noriega, that's a rapper.

706
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: And James just turns his goals keep sampling my ship

707
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: on the red carpet in front of everybody. He just

708
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: turned it. I guess lady must have told him I'm

709
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: a rapper and he's just like, man, I love rappers, y'all.

710
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: Keeping my ship alive and that's just he just pointed

711
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: at me in my face, sat keep sampling my ship.

712
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, we'll do. But who was the

713
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: James Brown's Rick James and Rick James. You know James Brown.

714
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: We were the first people that he would let come

715
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: in this dressing room without you know, going through the changes,

716
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: calling him, you know, mister Brown and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

717
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: that wasn't there. I'm talking about the early earlier days.

718
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, somebody standing outside, you know, and you

719
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: did come to see him. You know, he had come

720
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: into dressing room, you know, and when we came up,

721
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: came up to the door, was like that, you know,

722
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: keep the door open. Of course though it was you guys,

723
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: but well, I don't know, you know, James, like he's

724
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: really you know, a different type of individual. Yeah, yeah,

725
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: he was craze. That's like into the persona of being

726
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: James Brown might be, you know, but uh, James, James

727
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: knew what he could do. He really knew what he

728
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: could do. And uh, he was the first person to

729
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: tell us to have have your own band, get your

730
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: own make sure you got your own band playing your music,

731
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, and that that and and that stuff with us.

732
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: You know, you got ahead, got Jimmy Hendricks and all

733
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: the band members we had. Yeah, that really stuck with us.

734
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: So if you didn't have your own band, what will

735
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: happen when you got to the clubs? The clubs will

736
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: playing the music for you. Yeah, we walk in and

737
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: try to rehearse something with whoever. Yeah, I can see

738
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: I can see that. That's like, let's like hire the

739
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: DJ when you land. You don't know, man, DJ is

740
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: cool with it. The DJ start instrument. Yeah, But do

741
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: you have a Rick game story? Rick James? Man, I

742
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: liked I liked your face. I can say I saw

743
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: Rick James at Madison Square Garden when he had I'll

744
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: give It to my brabite and very very dynamic show.

745
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: I was surprised he was not playing the bass. He

746
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: was more or less singing and it was a great,

747
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: great show. And I remember not too long after that,

748
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: he was in Philadelphia, I think at the Spectrum and

749
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: he had sold out like three consecutive nights, and they

750
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: said he had collapsed on stage. And when I heard that,

751
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: I said, you know, like Rick, you're having a lot

752
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: of fun, but man, you're gonna have to get your

753
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: rest because I know it's a party, you know, Yeah,

754
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to you know. Uh. And he was

755
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: a big fan, he's a big Minis fan. Were in

756
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: California in Vegas, Yeah, Vegas, I mean twout the years.

757
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get back to quick Time of Slime. Throughout

758
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: the years, what was some some of the craziest people

759
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: that's a fans. I mean, obviously everyone is a fan

760
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: of y'all because you know what I mean, But it

761
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: was there someone that um that was that was y'all

762
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: was shocked off of being a fan. Oh, let me

763
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: think Johnny Mathis. Johnny Mathis with my first meetings of

764
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 1: Johnny Mathis was that Alan Freed show and Johnny Mathis

765
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: was taking uh Jackie Wilson places because Jackie Wilson he

766
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: gotten shot and you know, and uh, Johnny Mathis will

767
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: go out there saying, but people were screaming so loud

768
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: when he was saying, and you can stopped, you know,

769
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: and you told us, yell you they've made an announcement

770
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: with you guys stopped with the girls stopped screaming so

771
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: they to the audience could hear the song. It's not

772
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: then you can hear. I thought that was like, you're

773
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna tell all these people have stopped screaming, so you

774
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: but man, that's how you know, That's how he was

775
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: that you know, got there makes some noise that trick

776
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: outside the head where we got Yeah, other good one,

777
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Oh, Wow, that's the time, say

778
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: all night, I would say, that's a time. Want a

779
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: story about him? Anything? Um when uh Marvin and Tammi

780
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: Terrella had Alton, Ain't no Mountain High, Ain't no Hello. Uh,

781
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: my eldest brother said, I think Marvin Gaye in town

782
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: and he's gonna come by the house. And we had

783
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: a swimming pool party. This is on a Saturday, noise

784
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: of my mother's house. And it turned out that he

785
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: did come by and uh, he's just you know, out

786
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: of respecting to say hello and all that stuff, and

787
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: he was trying to leave, you know. After he got there,

788
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: he's like, man, yeah. Kelly was like, man, where are

789
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: you trying to go? Let me introduce you. This is

790
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: Ernie and this is Marvin. He said, y'all have a

791
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: brother named Marvin. Say yeah, this is Marvin Isisley. He'd

792
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: liked that, and that was one of the things that

793
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: sort of encouraged in the state and say, you know, well,

794
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: the only record we were playing in the backyard was

795
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: Ain't No Man in Huh of him and Tommy Arrell.

796
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: He came back through the gate and that record was blasting.

797
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: Everybody froze. Everybody when they saw him, and somebody said

798
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: that's more than gay, and a pandemonium broke own. People

799
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: coming out the pool. He's signed an autographs your pool

800
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: party's preside pictures, you know, and then he uh, Then

801
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: he was trying to still leave and Kelly said, fixed

802
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: him to play. He ain't going over. Yeah. Yeah, we

803
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: had barbecue, you know, all that stuff, tATu sala, and

804
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: he wound up staying. That was around uh like eleven

805
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: or so in the morning. He wound up staying till

806
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: about midnight. Wow. And he sat down at the piano

807
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: in the living room voicing piano and played if this

808
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: World Were Mine? Incredible. There's grown women in there doing

809
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: this tearing up. Yeah, it was that dynamic of a

810
00:55:54,800 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: of a lot of performing is Stevie Wonder? I can

811
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: say for myself. When we first came to California to

812
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: record what was Gonna be three plus three, we came

813
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: down to the studio and Stevie Wonder was in there

814
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: singing a song called Don't You Worry About the Thing?

815
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: We were hearing it cold incredible and when the engineers

816
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: and he couldn't quite find himself, but he was trying

817
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: to do and one of the engineers said, Stevie Osley

818
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: Brothers are here. He sang it from the middle all

819
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: the way out to the end, and you know his

820
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: his contribution to music is just incredible, unspeakable, and nobody

821
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: can up in front the eye. But then one of

822
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: the songs we did out there was something called that

823
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: Lady and some of the breeze and listen to the

824
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: music and uh, don't let me be lonely tonight under

825
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: the that's some really dynamic tracks on three plus three?

826
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: Who was that Lady about? Originally as wrong as I did? Wow?

827
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: And uh, he told me, because this woman to this

828
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: day about no. He told me and told me when

829
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna go out we're gonna go out there years old.

830
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: And I said, man, you know that was done as

831
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: a cho Boston Nova. And he said, huh, we're gonna

832
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: change the melody, we're gonna change the temple, we're gonna

833
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: change the lyric, and you are gonna play a lead

834
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: guitar on it. And I was like, okay, you know,

835
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we went out there and did

836
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: what we did, and you know you kind of like say,

837
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: like the rest is history, It's three is great and

838
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: literally at the end, he was like, what a fortunate

839
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: with any of the stories, With any of these stories,

840
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: I know whether or not I'm talking about it or

841
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: whether Ronald was talking about it. He could go on, yes,

842
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: because we're giving you like the microwave version. Yeah, the

843
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: quick version. We're good with that. H because you have

844
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: no idea how I mean, obviously you do, but yeah,

845
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: y'all both do. Everyone does hit because your history is

846
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: so rich, like like, oh to me, it's like whatever

847
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: they call the people, the Queen and the King of

848
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: Elizabeth like that. But the royal royalty, y'all. Royal family, yes,

849
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: not just stays version of royal family. You going to

850
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: the next quick, let's go public enemy or n wam tie.

851
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: I agree, I Sundy take your shot. We all of

852
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: us gonna take. Look. I'm looking running behind over him

853
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: man with that club. I get a pass, I get

854
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: a bas yo. Listen, we're gonna we're gonna disclaimer right now,

855
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: the Oddsy Brothers are not responsible for wherever Sunny drinks

856
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: and just not make it home tonight, just not playing

857
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: the alcohol. Do not blame the alcohol. The alcohol is

858
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: just fine. You It came with a bocket rock, but

859
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: it was smart enough to give you the run, and

860
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: I respect they shut up, Sunny. He brought me that

861
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: that baba, which I'm a drink in one of the

862
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: next episodes is Haitian rum is. It's great. I don't

863
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: recommend that. No, that's great. No, I drink it in Hey, next,

864
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: quick time, my son, let's go um. Well, no any

865
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: stories with public m or NWA the four qube left.

866
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: Did you enter any interactions with that group? What about

867
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: some women? Man? We were scared when the Houston Okay, Franklin, Yeah,

868
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: I'll take that. Payla Bill reread the Franklin Franklin, the

869
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: Franklin yes, and Patty Houston Patty, it's great too. Still

870
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: it's my girl. She's well Patty would say that Franklin, Yes,

871
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: she would. That's why I would saying that's what I

872
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: love the old g accent answer star would he. I

873
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: love it. I love it, and our crew putting no

874
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: more women on this list. That's that's the that's the

875
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: Columbia and Dominican over there, that's Columbian domic We all

876
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: married men, so we'd be scared to ask con and

877
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: name somebody. I'm saying shy males Beatty White, Connor, Winnie Houston,

878
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: Whendy Houston, even though it's a little different. But yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

879
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: You see what Stephanie Mills is going through right now.

880
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: She says something about to Be High. They ain't like it.

881
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: You cannot say nothing about to be leave it alone.

882
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: It's well known fact. And I say nothing about Beyonce.

883
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: Everybody knows it. It's like the mafia. We don't discuss it.

884
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: We just follow the rules. And but Stephanie Mills held

885
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: held it down. She went to the riversh clubs. She

886
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: held it down. She didn't back down. She just said

887
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: that she thought that, you know, Beyonce was excuse me that,

888
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: um um, Diana Ross was on a different level than Beyonce.

889
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: And we all understand what she meant, but for how

890
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: it was expressed was like, you can't say nothing about Beyonce,

891
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: like and in this day and era, like you know, um,

892
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, God bless you guys. You guys didn't have Instagram,

893
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you you luck it Instagram. It's some

894
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: crazy like oh my god, I just go on Twitter

895
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: just to be negative sometimes, like I just need an

896
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: ounce of negativity. So I'll just go on there and

897
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: be like, hey, how's everyone doing. People like fuck you.

898
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm like I said, I I didn't do nothing wrong

899
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: to offend you. I mean, it's the wild, wild West.

900
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I literally will go out there

901
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: and just say hi, just to just to and never

902
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: say I'll come up with one. Okay, I'll come up

903
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: with just one. Okay, with all due respect. The greatest

904
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: male singer in the history of rock and roll. It's

905
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: my brother wrong. You look, you look at the resume,

906
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: you listen to it. The catalog nobody I'm the Beatles

907
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: copied the Osley Brothers shout and twisting shown you know,

908
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: so John Lynn was copying what my brother wrong. And

909
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: they had no problem telling you that, right, they didn't job,

910
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, but that that would be one of the things.

911
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: I would let me take a shot for that. Damn,

912
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: I'll take the best. I'll take the shot the best stop.

913
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson copied him. I'm sure listening. Go on, yeah, everybody,

914
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: that's that's what's so beautiful about. That's why he was

915
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: sitting at the table talking to him right, trying to

916
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: get some pointers. You know, you can'tbody can't nobody hang

917
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: with this man, no no, and we're brothers. Good god

918
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: him who him a guitar man. He's gonna be a

919
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: good talk yo. But I'm not gonna lie to you.

920
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: That's what I don't know. Someone said this earlier. But

921
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: that's what's so beautiful about you guys is I've never

922
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: seen you guys be dated. Like you know, you guys

923
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: can fit into any genre and every genre will sit

924
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: there and respect you. I said that, right, and I

925
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: keep like i' We've been doing this show for like,

926
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, seven years, and you know, so every time

927
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: I have a person and I'll call other people to

928
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: see if if you know, people want to participate in

929
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: and in the interview, all give me some pointers, give

930
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:36,479
Speaker 1: me something. When I tell you everybody answers for y'all, wow,

931
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: Like there's certain people they're like, man, I got some

932
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: sus They're like mh, they don't because they don't want

933
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: to be a part of the interview. They don't want

934
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: to help out or whatever I want. I talking about

935
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: everybody that I call sincerely, was like, those brothers deserve

936
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: their flowers, and those brothers deserve the legendary status that

937
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: they have. And we'll be with moors. We'll be remiss

938
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: not to tell y'all how much y'all do deserve that,

939
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: how much important y'all are to this coach. And not

940
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: just hip hop, No, not just hip hop, hip cultural

941
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say anything. It's bigger than

942
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: the hip hop or anything's bigger than music. But sometimes

943
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: it's even bigger than music, because every single movie that

944
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: you watched with a little bit of soul got your

945
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: soul in it. No, for I'm like, God, I'm watching

946
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: bread and Crashes. I'm like, showt my holy shit hoop

947
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: what's his name? Bitch? Var bitch where he's trying to

948
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,959
Speaker 1: put his soul on that said? Bitch? Bard did great?

949
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: But no, no, hey, they put twist on it. This

950
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: is such beautiful basketball games. The stories you know, that

951
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: ship is everywhere. You really made universal. I heard you

952
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: say something one time, and you said the music will

953
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: outlive I forget how how y'all put it. Was pull

954
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: for y'all, the music will outlived the legend, right or

955
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: something like that. Forget how y'all how y'all put it?

956
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: And I got one record that I've ever made that's

957
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: bigger than me. Right, and this more than somebody was

958
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: in the club one day and he was singing my

959
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: song after he stepped on my shoe. He didn't know

960
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: what I mean, he's singing my ship. This in me,

961
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: I was offended, but in the site, but I was

962
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: always also like, go ahead, keep singing that. I could imagine.

963
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: I can imagine y'all catalog. There has to be people

964
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: that actually sing y'all shit in this parbaby like, man,

965
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: you haven't had that experience. You know. I was watching

966
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: the football, not the Super Bowl game, not just any

967
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: football game. And now they did the commercial with the

968
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: kids you know who you made me run and the

969
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: commercial kids was getting married, and yeah, I think that's

970
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna gonna win something that you too. But but they

971
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: do our songs and every every Super Bowl and even

972
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: even even the rappers did, uh every every rapper when

973
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 1: the doctor dre Ye and all the rapper was up there. Yeah,

974
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: when I'm sorry, did you say they play your songs

975
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: every Super Bowl? Oh? Yeah, yeah that is you know

976
01:07:50,640 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: when when that was nobody the tower, when back when

977
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: uh Barack Obama was president elect and was sitting in

978
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: front of the Lincoln Memorial, Garth Brooks was out there

979
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: with acoustic guitar. He put his guitar down, he took

980
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: his hat off, and I'm watching this on CNN and

981
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: he said where. I was like, oh my god, in

982
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: front of the Lincoln Memorial and know your mabement wounded,

983
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: came back. Here go my hand back, and the audience

984
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: and the president elect was and Joe Biden, who was

985
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: vice president, and the wives, and I was like, good god,

986
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: that song boy, everybody knows you. It's it's gonna live forever. Yeah,

987
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: I mean I mean that, you know what's crazy. Some

988
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: people are blessed to have one of those records. Some

989
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: people are blessed to have two them. Recons said at

990
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: beer minim, I mean that maximum people aren't blessed to

991
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: have three of them. Y'all got like seventeen. I can't go.

992
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute. They never not make

993
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: it like I'm I don't look at like go and

994
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's that's a blessing, yoll dress a blessing.

995
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: Like like for let me ask you, what was your

996
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: first taste of someone doing a cover of your music?

997
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: Was it, I mean, as big as it got? Was it?

998
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: The Beatles? Uh? The shout? Uh? What's covered by What's

999
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: the Girl. Joey d In The Starliners did a whole

1000
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 1: a version of Shout back in the around nineteen sixty

1001
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: one or so, and I remember watching the show that

1002
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: Joy d and the Starlights on the same show A

1003
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: Star and She Brothers and the Osley Brothers were closing

1004
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: this show with Shout and enjoy ding. The Starlighters had

1005
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: Outshout and they were doing it in front of its like,

1006
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: but the audience was still more so with the isles.

1007
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,839
Speaker 1: When then Kelly Rudolf and did it so well Lulu

1008
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: had a number version and the number one record of England. Yeah,

1009
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: that was the first record we ruled that had a

1010
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: cover we wrote. I wrote another song called Nobody with

1011
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: Me and it was the number one song went to

1012
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: Human Beings and they played out at the Super Bowl too,

1013
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: you know. So that was the first cover shout Nobody

1014
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: with Me. But that was the first songs I wrote,

1015
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, the first songs. And at the beginning of

1016
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: the of a legacy that's being covered and covered and

1017
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: it goes on the next I wrote that the guy

1018
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: wanted to give us half of it. The song was

1019
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: a twisting shot and we said no, you're going and

1020
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: you keep that, you know, not knowing that it would

1021
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: be the monster monster later? You know that was that

1022
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: considered rock and roll or doop? What was that consider

1023
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: at that time? Well, little Richard was doing a good God,

1024
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: miss Molly, you know little rock and roll here the

1025
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: beginning of rock and roll. Yeah, him and Chuck Berry.

1026
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah so so so y'all wasn't considered rock and rollers

1027
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: considered no, I think, and I don't think that was

1028
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: slaying on b. Then. We didn't even have a name

1029
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: for the Johan. It was just dope. It was just fine.

1030
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: They called it rock and roll, but you know that good?

1031
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: But uh, I don't I don't remember them all in

1032
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: songs R and B R right, ligand and blues but

1033
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: like do you like the term from R and B

1034
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: or I don't care what term they called as the

1035
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: baby making as long as they played and music gets

1036
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: music man, music gets music man. Uh. They kind of

1037
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: put it put it in categorious, you know, and box it. Yeah,

1038
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, and box you in with it. Right. But

1039
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: the Lord has we know why our blessing come from.

1040
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: This is Jesus christy you know? So um, because like

1041
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: when I used to make music. People just come up

1042
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: to me and be like I did. I went to

1043
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 1: jail for your ship. I realized I didn't want me

1044
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: to say it, but I was like, what would you

1045
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: want me to do? Yeah, exact, because your music is different.

1046
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't right, it wasn't right right, But come up

1047
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 1: to y'all gotta be like I had a baby because

1048
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: of you? How how how how how beautiful is that?

1049
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: Because it makes you really really feel good, really feel

1050
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: good all the use Oh you did right? Yeah? Sometimes

1051
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: they I've had guys come up to me and say, hey, man,

1052
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: I love y'all's music, but I got in trouble because

1053
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: of y'all. Know what you're talking about? Because I put

1054
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: that song don't say good night yeah, over and over again.

1055
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: I want to see see what you like liking big

1056
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my good you gotta be a saving

1057
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: can be a stalker, gonna take that song different. Yes,

1058
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: that's very true. Don't think right now. We our music

1059
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: has UH. It has a lot of romance in it,

1060
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: and it was one of the probably our catalogs wanted

1061
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: to go to catalogs when it comes to UH, men

1062
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: and women being together in the intimate fashion and date whatever,

1063
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: which is a wonderful thing. It was crazy because I

1064
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: always used to say this, two genres of music that

1065
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: you can play loud and no one will ever get offended.

1066
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:29,799
Speaker 1: And at first I thought it was just uh, reggae

1067
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: and salsa. But this past a couple of months, me

1068
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: knowing that I had y'all book, I kept playing y'all

1069
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: music loud as hell and in front of the white

1070
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: folks and no one can playing And I said, but

1071
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: then I said, it's Isley Broughs, the own genre of music.

1072
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: Do y'all prolong South, because that's that's really he ever

1073
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: been on the Caribbean, the island and they playing at

1074
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: the Calypso when they playing, no one's offended by the

1075
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 1: words no one. And then if you go to like

1076
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: la I'm gonna half part the weekend and you play

1077
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: certain and then and then I just realized it was

1078
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: also your music. You can play it woud. I'm talking

1079
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: about like, you know, the levels of the people like

1080
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: they don't do that with y'all ship and they're like, oh,

1081
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: it's really baby making music. It's not offensive. Fact, did

1082
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: y'all did y'all know that? I know that now you know,

1083
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: we'd be something. We'd be somewhere on the island I

1084
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: remember not too long ago, and it's live band hits. Wow. Wow,

1085
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: you know we should where over here and then where

1086
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 1: over they hell land something you can hear it like

1087
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: loud and clear, Like that's wonderful, wonderful to have something

1088
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: like that happened. What's one thing that that that you

1089
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: regret not taking advantage of in this game? If anything?

1090
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: If any say that again, one thing that you regret

1091
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: not taking advantage of, Like is there an opportunity you

1092
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: let pass by that you should have, like, yeah, we

1093
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: are to have a core unions like I get back

1094
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: with you. Oh I remember, uh the House the Um

1095
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: Blues Brothers they are. They wanted us to perform in

1096
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: that movie r White Guys Blues brother you know, and

1097
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: and and then we turned it down and they use

1098
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: another groups. Uh let me take with someone else. I

1099
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: would kind of regret that. And and they wanted wanted

1100
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 1: to use one of our records and uh uh the

1101
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: movie he uh ninety the ninety Oh yeah, the Beach's

1102
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Fever. They wanted to use tell Me When

1103
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: You Need It again from the goal for your guns

1104
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: job and now but you are hallm um, hallm uh

1105
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: the golf Father, right you You ain't that right now?

1106
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Oh yeah yeah yeah. The Blues Brothers. Yeah

1107
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: you came back home. Oh man, I'm so excited. Man.

1108
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: So let me ask you generationally the decade wise, is

1109
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: there a decade that stands out to you musically that

1110
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: that you feel like it was just for you guys?

1111
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: This was where you guys were hip hop inspired the

1112
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: most nineties right hip hop only. I'm saying that, like

1113
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: any decade out of your whole career, is there any

1114
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: decade that you feel or time frame that you feel

1115
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: this was the most inspirational for whatever was happening at

1116
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: the time or for you guys personally? I would I

1117
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 1: would say, uh, the decade that all of us was together,

1118
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: all the brothers that were together, you know, and after

1119
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: after h my one, my oldest brother passed, it became

1120
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: very difficult and for me, uh, but the fun, the real, real,

1121
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: real fun was when everyone was together. Everyone's together, we're

1122
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: all together, and take something else. I thought that the

1123
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: music that we were doing, um, it might have been

1124
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: starting from like work to do well actually started from

1125
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 1: it's your thing. I've from It's your Thing to like

1126
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: between the Sheets and eighty three sixty nine to eighty three,

1127
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 1: I thought, especially when we got three plus three going forward,

1128
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: those albums were double platinum and that Lady Fighter Power

1129
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: take Me to the next phase whatever, I thought, they

1130
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: would have been bigger wow. But by way of technology

1131
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: and when they went into the MTV hip hop rap,

1132
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 1: those songs came back to us in a way I

1133
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: would have never imagined, so that I love it when

1134
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 1: you're calling me a big pop or today was a

1135
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 1: good day. I didn't have to use my AK or

1136
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: see you went to crossroads and that was to make

1137
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 1: me say it again. Those songs came back in a

1138
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: way that I would have never imagined, so that Okay,

1139
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: we may have done double platinum as the Eyes Brothers,

1140
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: but if when you put all the other stuff on top,

1141
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: it was probably like four or five million, you know

1142
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 1: sales per album because of those songs, and um, because

1143
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: they say that that you know albums are you talking

1144
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: about her? Are now are three million? You know? Three

1145
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: plus three lifted up Heat is on Harvest of the World. Yeah,

1146
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: go count it all up, go for your guys show down.

1147
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: But he owns all the way. Yeah, he doesn't had

1148
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: fight the power for the love of you. Uh, and

1149
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,799
Speaker 1: make Me Say It Again girl. They had the slow side,

1150
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: which at that time was you mean, they got a

1151
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 1: jam side. But you flipped this record over and it's

1152
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: all slow songs and people were just in the game time.

1153
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: Just flipped the record over and you for the love

1154
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: of you, you know, followed by sensuality, followed by make

1155
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: Me Say the Again. Girls. A great, great record, win

1156
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: number one, first number one album for us. And listen,

1157
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: this was all motel though. This was no this was eyesless,

1158
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: this teenack. You know. Remember they went indie quick, don't

1159
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: get in twisted? You still waiting for your major label

1160
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: shot check oly shit man, oh hold on. So we're

1161
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick breakcause I'm gonna use a bathroom. Girl,

1162
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: I use the bathroom. I'm god, okay, you gotta use

1163
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: a bath ho finally take a bathroom break. That killer

1164
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: all right, So listen, we're gonna wrap up this quick

1165
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: time with slime. You got a couple more questions. Um,

1166
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: analog or digital? M h wow, both of them. I

1167
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: think in some ways the analog may have a warmer sound. Uh,

1168
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: Digital may have a somewhat clearer cleaner, right, cleaner is

1169
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: that that's not always good? No, he's so clean, right,

1170
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: it's not always So you're going analog. If you're going analog,

1171
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: take a shot for that. It's your thing. But I

1172
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: love analog. I love the rails when you had to

1173
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: walk around with the reels and it felt like he

1174
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: was hard human being and like you know what I'm saying,

1175
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: Like I love because that's the dirty sound came out

1176
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: like when but digital it's almost like it's clean before

1177
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: the evening, like you know what I mean, Like you guys,

1178
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: I love that. We mentioned on Drink Chance but DJ

1179
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: Quick he had he did an interview, um I think

1180
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: with Televequali and he mentioned that he felt an analog

1181
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: picked up the energy from the room. Oh yeah, I

1182
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: agree with that. Keller used to put a nickel on

1183
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: uh turntable to get that. That's that DJ ship. Let's

1184
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: all right, soul training or American band standing. So you're

1185
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: saying so strange too, I'm good. I'm with the Mike

1186
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 1: Tyson or Ali Ali. We haven't drank, drank that's the

1187
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: last one you got. We got the last one. This

1188
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: is the last one. Gotta do the last one, the

1189
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: last one that everyone thinks this is everyone thinks the

1190
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: whole game is a trick question, but it kind of is,

1191
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: but it isn't. It's always meant to let let the

1192
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: artists loosen up. You know. We do this game to

1193
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: let the artists loosen up so they can start saying things.

1194
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: But pay homage that we're talking about. But really, this

1195
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: is the only to me, it's not a trick question.

1196
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: That that is a trick question. It's the last one.

1197
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: It's loyalty or respect. Loyalty is gonna have respect in it,

1198
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: and respects you're gonna have loyalty in it. That's what.

1199
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 1: We can't really separate the two. They'll be they'll be together.

1200
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're intertwined. You know, if you have respect,

1201
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: you're going to have loyalty. And how can you have loyalty? Whatever?

1202
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Was having respect? That's perfect. Wait, there's two people here, Okay,

1203
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: well I don't I don't use that same man. Ok

1204
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: We gotta drink. Okay, so let me get this, mamma,

1205
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: So you're ready with it's lined up because we just

1206
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: want to play, y'all. Some of that hit records that

1207
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: y'allre responsible for indirectly, and we just want to jam

1208
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: out a little bit with y'all a little bit. Yes,

1209
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: there's no person on earth. I've never met him, and

1210
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: I don't think these persons, this person exists that don't

1211
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: respect to Isasley brothers and don't respect what you guys

1212
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: have laid down musically, with integrity, with morals. We're having class. Oh,

1213
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,879
Speaker 1: I'm so honored man, to have you guys in our presence,

1214
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: to have you guys here. Um, it's it's an honor.

1215
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm trying to look for a word

1216
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: that's better than honor, and I just keep thinking honorable.

1217
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: But because my vocabulary is not that great, but my

1218
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: heart is. And I want to really tell y'all, man,

1219
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: you really birth a whole generation of hip hop ers,

1220
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: people lovers of of great people that's responsible for you

1221
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: as their parents, you know, because sometimes you musically people parents.

1222
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 1: Sometimes you sometimes people don't have their their parents at

1223
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: the household, and you know what they do, They go

1224
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: put it in that cassette. You know, I'm old enough

1225
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: to know about the tape of that and the aid

1226
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: that and you know the CD player like just some

1227
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 1: of these kids you put out a CD player like,

1228
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: wait a minute, and I'm talking about and you know,

1229
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: you are a lot of people's parents, and we want

1230
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: to respect that and we want to salute you face

1231
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: to face, man and man out of eye because a

1232
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: lot of people tell you how great you are when

1233
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: you're not around, and then when you're around, they want

1234
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 1: to be in competition with you. All gave you five

1235
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: or a hard way or something like that. And we

1236
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: want to tell y'all, man, that's not what we all

1237
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: over here, where we over here, it's people. We want

1238
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: to show you respect. We want to show you love,

1239
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 1: and we will show you gratitude, loyalty and everything because you,

1240
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: guys truly deserve it. You are what I think about

1241
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 1: when I think about legends, icons and you know, kings,

1242
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: the epitome of what epitome artists. Let me listen make

1243
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 1: some noise for that. Let me let me say something

1244
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: like I often say, like, if you really into into music,

1245
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: into culture and all this stuff, like it's okay not

1246
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: to know because people forget, Oh you don't know the history,

1247
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: you don't know this a younger generation or even ourselves,

1248
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it's okay not to know. But what I

1249
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: toold it was not okay not to want to know,

1250
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, not to want to as a DJ digging

1251
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: the crates. So when I would hear a sample and

1252
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: I realized, oh, this is a sample, My job now

1253
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: as a lover of music is where is this sample from?

1254
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: And that's what I would always tell a younger generation, like,

1255
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: it's not okay not to want to know. Don't be

1256
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: ignorant to the history of what you're into. Right. But

1257
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: but when we were talking really quick before and and

1258
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: I think we can't get out of here. We're talking

1259
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 1: about we're talking about one particular one was Contagious, because

1260
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: Contentious had one hundred and nineteen million has the has

1261
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: excuse me, a has that? You know that means motherfucker's

1262
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: washing contagious that don't know the language. They are sitting

1263
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: there like, how does it feel to have a record

1264
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 1: that's big like that? Well, you know, in our show

1265
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: we use we bring out furniture, were trying to bring

1266
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: out a whole set, a whole house. The dude songs

1267
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: like Busted and Contagious and that's my next question busted yes,

1268
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 1: and you know, and the audience now if you on

1269
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: on on your your phone, your your cell phone. They

1270
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: have so many people doing busted. But you know, TikTok

1271
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing, and that's

1272
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: a that's a one of the important parts of our

1273
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: show every night, every night. You know, and uh, download

1274
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, men R Kelly did. Download video was one

1275
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: of the first video that we took. We were here

1276
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: four days to do it was right, hi queen okay,

1277
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,839
Speaker 1: and that was that was one of the great videos

1278
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: at the time, Mark Kelly. They did I guess the

1279
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: problems that started, but if you go back and look

1280
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: at that video, that has to be one of the

1281
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: great greatest filp hop videos. So I would like to say, yeah, please,

1282
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 1: Mark Kelly is one of the greatest, greatest producer writers

1283
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: that we have. You know. Uh, we didn't keep up

1284
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: with what he did, right. He was always a gentleman

1285
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 1: with us. Right. It was you could only speak on

1286
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: what you were dealing with your right and um and

1287
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: everybody knew, like you said, you guys are classic sidified. Um.

1288
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: You know everyone knows that man, You know what I mean.

1289
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you addressed that I'm glad you addressed

1290
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: it direct on because unless people know that there's nothing

1291
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: the hottest. Everything was straight up and that's a beautiful thing. Um,

1292
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: you guys are legends. Man. You guys kept y'all, y'all

1293
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: your name so squeaky clean and kept it and kept

1294
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 1: it with integrity, and it's something that it's something that like,

1295
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: like I said, I want to m you know, always

1296
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: salute and I want to always commend because, um, you

1297
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: guys do a luxurious career consistency and quality that is

1298
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: hard to maintain. Do you see how many people have

1299
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: one hit and one one they can't make it hard

1300
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: to get one is super hard to get. But then

1301
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: they can't last. They can't last a year and a half.

1302
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: That's a long time. Already they're back working at Pigny Whiggly.

1303
01:31:51,120 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 1: I went too far career, but it's it's really like

1304
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: it's real when you have a hit, alright, one hit

1305
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: record to maintain that and you guys got I mean

1306
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: thirty years more than thirty years more than you got

1307
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 1: thirty two albums. I'm some about thirty two albums. Like

1308
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I've looked at DJ college the other day. I think

1309
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:24,759
Speaker 1: DJ college he's gone harder, he's thirteen. He's not even happen,

1310
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: not even half. And to be clear, you guys are

1311
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: usually writing the vocals and the music as well, and

1312
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 1: that is the most incredible part this because try to

1313
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 1: maintain what they're doing doing that, right, You could easily

1314
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 1: be a vocalist and have producers. You could easily be

1315
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: a vocalist and have writers writing your vocals and have producers.

1316
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 1: They are writing the music and the vocals and performing.

1317
01:32:52,200 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: You're right, that is incredible, That's super incredible. What do

1318
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: you guys like better writing the music or performing the music?

1319
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 1: The vote that the thing is is like we bounce, right,

1320
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: a lot of different ideas, always off of each other,

1321
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: consciously unconsciously, and so like when you come up with

1322
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: an idea, then you present it and it's bounced off

1323
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: the vocal part and that bounces back to the writing

1324
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: part of the musical parts. And you know, you you

1325
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: really we really don't do one without doing the other,

1326
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 1: but being conscious of the other. You know, so that um,

1327
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: as you load the gun, you want to shoot it. Hey,

1328
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: you know says that say like footsteps in the dark.

1329
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: When it was first recorded drums, bass one keyboard and

1330
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: one guitar, okay, And the first song that was performed

1331
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: vocally Footsteps in the Dark. And once the vocal went

1332
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 1: on and the other vocals went on, then you can

1333
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,560
Speaker 1: hear the other musical parts to be added to it.

1334
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: And by the time you finished with it, it's like

1335
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: glorious technicolor and you have you know, you have the lyric,

1336
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: you have the harmonies, you know, you have all the

1337
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: things that make up a record. By the time you finish.

1338
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 1: You don't necessarily have that when you begin, you just

1339
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: at the beginning. So that yeah, so by the time

1340
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: we get to, like the song is finish, it's like, man,

1341
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: that bad points out of here, you know, for us

1342
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: to know that before it comes out. So that's sort

1343
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: of like the way that goes. So let me ask

1344
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,600
Speaker 1: you one more, right, and this is this is this

1345
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: is like going for it right because I'm gonna help

1346
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 1: you out just now. I help you out with this

1347
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 1: one because I go through this and I only got

1348
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty years. Right. But every now and then the

1349
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:26,440
Speaker 1: person samples my record, I don't like it, okay, sampling

1350
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,480
Speaker 1: it or just they're just doing it over the instrumental

1351
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I don't like it. You need to be

1352
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: like somebody, do you like everybody who covers your record

1353
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: or has no you're right, you're right. We turned down

1354
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 1: things all the time. You know. Sometimes the lyrics are really, really,

1355
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: really bad. We said, I don't fit with you know, right,

1356
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, you know this funny thing that no

1357
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 1: one never ever talked about the songs that don't make it,

1358
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: mostly these songs and we're talking about now hits. Yeah,

1359
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 1: but how many you know how many hits? Was it

1360
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: didn't make it? You know, well, for whatever reason, you know,

1361
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: they didn't get played or the promotion wasn't right or something.

1362
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 1: Give me for the ones that you actually clear, Yeah,

1363
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: they didn't make it. It's we have albums that did.

1364
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: We try to say, now, uh, the album I did

1365
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: with Burt back right, is one of the best albums

1366
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: I did. And you know, the record come defolded. Oh

1367
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: you're talking about your own records, yeah right, but yeah,

1368
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: the record company folded when we released the record, you know,

1369
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: and that was one of the reasons the record didn't

1370
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: get the chance to do. Yeah, and you can't take

1371
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: that record now. And we tried to buy the record

1372
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,839
Speaker 1: back and they're either they pressed up four hundred thousand,

1373
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: and they sold the four hundred thousand and then stopped, Well, damn,

1374
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 1: you're winning gold and today's to end it. That's pretty good. Well,

1375
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: they stopped. If I'm gonna go one of old y'all,

1376
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 1: that's amazing that. You know, we don't know where that

1377
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: record will wind up, even even after I'm gone, you know, right,

1378
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: you know that's that's a funny thing about record st

1379
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be some hits that we didn't

1380
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: know about. You know, my brother wrote a song, uh,

1381
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: I think one of his first songs, my youngest brother.

1382
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: Uh and he and he and he wrote the song,

1383
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: and uh, someone in England did it, and then they

1384
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: talking about this song is the best friend, the best

1385
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 1: record in the world, you know. And that was his

1386
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 1: first record as a kid. You know, you walk your way,

1387
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 1: I walk mine. You know. Yeah, it didn't get a

1388
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 1: Whitney Heuston story or no, we didn't get one year

1389
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to play the Whitney he used the

1390
01:37:56,360 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 1: record Whitney Houston story. Oh I can tell you, okay,

1391
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 1: I was in Las Vegas. We ran in Las Vegas.

1392
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're drinking, but you loosening it up.

1393
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 1: It's a La Vegas in Las Vegas, right the MGM Hotel.

1394
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 1: And I was at a bank of elevators and I

1395
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: came out and this guy grabbed me and gave me

1396
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: a bear hug. I couldn't see who it was, but

1397
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 1: when he pushed back, it's Bobby Brown. You're giving us

1398
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: a two of one. You know it was Bobby. It

1399
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: was Bobby Brown. And after he pushed back, he said,

1400
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 1: oh man, Ernie Man, I love y'all. Man loved the

1401
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: way he played blah blah blah blah blah, you know,

1402
01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 1: and he pushed back. And when he did that, Whitney

1403
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 1: Houston and we embraced. We got different stories night, man,

1404
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: I just said. I just said to her, Whitney Houston,

1405
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: with you girl like that, You're a champion. That's all

1406
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: I can say to her. You're a champion. And she

1407
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:23,679
Speaker 1: starts smiling. They got in the elevator and you're a champion, girl.

1408
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 1: Don't forget that you are a champion. You're a champion.

1409
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 1: That's the last thing I said to her. And then

1410
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: now we have different stories with you know, different different eras.

1411
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston with me goes back to England and everything

1412
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 1: every with a mother and the whole nod you know, wow,

1413
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: And so the records to get perfect, She's perfect, perfect

1414
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 1: where she had done a sample of Between the Sheets. Yeah,

1415
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: oh really? And row was in the video whether she

1416
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 1: flew me in candy from Atlanta, Georgia playing Hold nine,

1417
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah she did. She recorded for the Love of You also, Bob.

1418
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: You know, man, guy's got such a beautiful history, a

1419
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: beautiful family and we're not even touching the surface of

1420
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 1: how much history here is here? Yeah. Yeah, to be

1421
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 1: honest with you like this is we need days of

1422
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 1: a podcast. I'll tell your story, yes, please, and keep

1423
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 1: drinking that shit. Sorry? Is that my mother's house? And uh,

1424
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 1: the door opened and it was Wrongald, and he said,

1425
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 1: I got this idea for a song. And it was

1426
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 1: me Kelly and Kelly, I she my eldest brother, and Marvin,

1427
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 1: the youngest brother. Ronald said, I got this idea for

1428
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: a song, So yeah, what is it? And he was

1429
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 1: st stomping his foot. It's your thing. Do what you

1430
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: want to do, because now I can't tell you who

1431
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 1: to sock it to stock it. He stopped. It was

1432
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,640
Speaker 1: the first time I ever heard that any of us

1433
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: had heard it. And after he stopped, he said something

1434
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: like what y'all think, and we were all quiet, and

1435
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: I remember I said, I like that. You said, do

1436
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: what you want to do. I can't tell you who

1437
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: to sock it to. You didn't say sock it to me.

1438
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 1: That's the other thing Soccer told me at the time.

1439
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: But I never said that. He never said that. The

1440
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 1: last tracket Soccer to me. He just said, I can't

1441
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 1: tell you who to sock it to. And eventually we

1442
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 1: went to the studio and he sang the song on

1443
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: one take. On the first take, I gotta be asked,

1444
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I did not know what socket too?

1445
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,600
Speaker 1: What did it mean? What that mean? Here's somebody? Or

1446
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: it could be hit something or Franken did the record

1447
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: so oh easy, oh shit, So okay, all right, I'm

1448
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna learn the slang like see like that and see

1449
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: when you hit you. I'll always remember that the first

1450
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,560
Speaker 1: time I heard it's your thing, it was like that.

1451
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 1: It was that raw. It was that voice came to you,

1452
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: came to him too, you know. He wrote the song,

1453
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, and sang on the first time. I saying

1454
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 1: when he came to you, yea, when he came when

1455
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: he came back to the house and said, what do

1456
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 1: y'all think it was like? And then the next time

1457
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:00,679
Speaker 1: was doing the uh you know, it was coming together

1458
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: with the horn parts and whether else instruments were gonna

1459
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,560
Speaker 1: be on it. And we got to the studio and

1460
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: you sang the song on the first take. Yeah, I

1461
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 1: mean what kind of you know, like, what kind of

1462
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 1: rolling of the dice is that first take? Seven? Yeah? No,

1463
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, either you're gonna roll seven or you're not

1464
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 1: seven that song? Good God? Who m so, can you

1465
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 1: give us the record real quick? We just take a

1466
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: real quick we will record it. We'll be right back here.

1467
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: The brothers I really get. I really get goose bumps,

1468
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, just talking the history with

1469
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: your brothers. Um, I really do. I really understand my

1470
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: childhood more. H I understand my my adulthood more. I

1471
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: understand who I am in hip hop more because I

1472
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 1: was just sitting down with you, brothers, because this ya

1473
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 1: are really royalty and royalty, You're a history. You're a

1474
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 1: part of everybody's everything here, and I don't see hip

1475
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:33,720
Speaker 1: hop existing without you. Brothers. You know, I don't want

1476
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: to see hip hop existing, but that's a good Yeah,

1477
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: you're just thinking about people old records we've been missing.

1478
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 1: If hip hop existed without the records that you guys made,

1479
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 1: that trickled down the hip hop, I don't think it

1480
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: would be the same job. Because there was resistance early

1481
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: on to to the people sampling in hip hop, and

1482
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 1: then the people that were saying, hey, these are the samples,

1483
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: you gotta pay up. The industry didn't have it together

1484
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: and the young thriving hip hop artists that they didn't

1485
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: know what they were doing. They were just doing what

1486
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: they were doing. So there was a clash there originally.

1487
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 1: Did you guys ever feel that clash with hip hop?

1488
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,879
Speaker 1: You know, when I went to We're at the Grammys

1489
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 1: one time and I, uh, some some people walked up

1490
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: to me and said, hey, do you know Kendrick Lamar?

1491
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: I never heard of him, right, and he had had

1492
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: a couple of albums as still he was a star then,

1493
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 1: but I had never never heard of And they introduced

1494
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 1: him to me and he said, my mother was your

1495
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 1: biggest fan, and she wants me to do a song

1496
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 1: with you, he said, and she will have a fit.

1497
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 1: All right, we've talked a little bit, and my wife

1498
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 1: right right away said, you don't know who can Kenned

1499
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 1: Ricks of the Marne, And so he flew to the

1500
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 1: same to us at the time, and uh, we talked

1501
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 1: about what he was gonna do, and he had the

1502
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 1: song like who's that lady? I love myself? Yes, yeah,

1503
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,560
Speaker 1: I love myself. And so we talked about it and

1504
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 1: we did it, and he talked about and and I

1505
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 1: you know, listening to his album, listen to the album,

1506
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: and he did. Uh, he wasn't naturally wondered that the

1507
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 1: butterfly right, yeah, amazing, you know, it's just and you know,

1508
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 1: he was amazing. Came back to New York, I came

1509
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 1: back to California and the video, did the video. But

1510
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: he turned out to be like wow, this guy is

1511
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: he's he just amazing, you know, and they all love you,

1512
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 1: they all your sons. Let's just keep be clear. Let's

1513
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: be clear. Let's just came. I know you being humble

1514
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 1: about it, but we all under you, you boys coming

1515
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 1: into it be and they'd be like, y'all ought to

1516
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 1: be like that, y'all We all to y'all, all right,

1517
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: it's like it's true, but yeah, working on a new

1518
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 1: album or no, oh yeah we have this album out now,

1519
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 1: make me say it again. That's charting right now and

1520
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 1: it's like doing fantastically wonderful. You know, yeah, I like it,

1521
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 1: Like I said that. Uh, the single has been on

1522
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 1: the charts for like thirty weeks in the top five,

1523
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, it was number one for five weeks and

1524
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: it's number fiver with the six seven this week. Yeah

1525
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 1: we went back major too, right, Yeah I took that

1526
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: major check. No remember, no independent they just using the

1527
01:47:51,200 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 1: major's now or just saying no, no, no. This is

1528
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:05,560
Speaker 1: so the album is doing fantastic and amen, let me

1529
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 1: thank everybody for that, please, oh man, no man, everyone, Well,

1530
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 1: I reverse it on both of y'all. Everybody kind of

1531
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:18,600
Speaker 1: need to thank y'all because, like I mean, like you know,

1532
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: our show is about that. But I'm not saying this

1533
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 1: to say this because y'all in my face. I'm saying

1534
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 1: this to say this because y'all deserve this. I'm saying

1535
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 1: to say this because this is real. I'm saying to

1536
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: say this because this is facts. You guys are icons, legends.

1537
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 1: I sincerely believe this show wouldn't exist. I believe you know,

1538
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 1: his DJ career probly wouldn't exist. My you know rap

1539
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: career wouldn't is this And like I said earlier, I

1540
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't even want it to exist without you brothers, because

1541
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: it's a staple of of of of what real music is,

1542
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: real music is, and everything has soul in it has

1543
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 1: has has more was as composition and as opposed to

1544
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 1: what's going on right now. And I'm not distening to

1545
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 1: young brothers because I love them too. I'm just not

1546
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: where they at. It has no substance, it has nothing.

1547
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 1: It just these people are just talking to talk and

1548
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to become that guy. All the young

1549
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 1: dudes and young music is a little crazy. But I

1550
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. But we need substance in music.

1551
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 1: We need integrity and music. We need morals in music,

1552
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 1: and you guys are the quintessential example of that, and

1553
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 1: your brothers as well, all the brothers. Thank you for that,

1554
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: all the brothers. Somebody I want to ask you about

1555
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: Dion Warwick. Wow, however we were Wow going back to U.

1556
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 1: It's a song twisting show. We were supposed to do

1557
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: a song from uh Burt Backracker make it easy on yourself,

1558
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 1: and that's what we rehearsed. Uh. The words were changed

1559
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: to or you lonely by yourself when they were arguing

1560
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: about that in the studio, and so they stopped our

1561
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 1: session and Bert got mad and he walked out, and

1562
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 1: guy that was producing us walked out. So we had

1563
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes left in the studio. So we did the

1564
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 1: B side song, which was twisted out, and we didn't

1565
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,560
Speaker 1: hear it back because we didn't have enough time to

1566
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 1: listen to it. And so we we said, man, I

1567
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 1: did that the part who felt like that part of

1568
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 1: our career was over. Oh man, we ain't gonna have

1569
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 1: no really, you know. We walked out to the studio.

1570
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: They made nine or ten demos of that song and

1571
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 1: send it to Philadelphia and a disc jockey about the

1572
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 1: name of Jerry Blavett start playing it and the song

1573
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 1: went to two million keeter with That's when I had

1574
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 1: met then Wald and I talked about that on a

1575
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 1: show that we did UH with with. Bert said, look, man,

1576
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: I wanted to sing your type of songs, but we

1577
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 1: were left with twisted shouts. So we did and and

1578
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: those days when you had a hit like Shout or

1579
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 1: twist and shout. They wanted to keep you in that pocket.

1580
01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 1: So you know, sing them kind of songs that have

1581
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 1: the next set as part of one two and things

1582
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, okay, so no one would tell you

1583
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 1: to sing hello, listen to me, you know, because they

1584
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 1: didn't you. They didn't know that you could perform that

1585
01:51:55,400 --> 01:52:01,799
Speaker 1: the same way. But it took a couple of years

1586
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 1: to be able to fall, you know, get into those

1587
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 1: type of songs and that then we got there say

1588
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: now we gotta make we can do that, we can

1589
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 1: do this, we can do this, do everything. Yeah, so

1590
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: you never felt like in a ball like where people

1591
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: just made you continue to do that because like I

1592
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: remember me doing um super tuck. I gotta had a

1593
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 1: song with Pharrell called what What What? What? What What?

1594
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 1: And they just making me wanted to do that same record,

1595
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, I made that record angry. I'm

1596
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 1: not angry, no, more like funny because the record doesn't

1597
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 1: even sound angry. But but you know, but we know,

1598
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 1: we just think about it. What what what? What? What

1599
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 1: that day happened? So but they would try to was

1600
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 1: that something when you moved over to these people were saying, man,

1601
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 1: do another shower, do another you know what I mean?

1602
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: You know when we pull them down on company, we

1603
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 1: could sell him whatever, do whatever you want? See independent baby,

1604
01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: I told you so that's when I could. You know, hey,

1605
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 1: I want to do shout. I want to do what

1606
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 1: you do. I want to win you experiment, you go,

1607
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 1: And obviously some things didn't work, like like some of

1608
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 1: the Breeze was one of the songs. I want to

1609
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 1: experiment with you know, Oh my gosh, make making just

1610
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: sound like the rain drops. Yeah, wow, just smooth my

1611
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 1: glass yours when you damn man, I just want to know.

1612
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I'm gonna take a sipping and

1613
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 1: continue to do another one because you guys, man really

1614
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: really the real deal man? And did you watch the

1615
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 1: the movie So Man? Yeah, they stole your whole shit?

1616
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 1: Is that not hilarious? Didn't he watch it was So

1617
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: Man with Bernie Mack? Yeah, I didn't see that. You're

1618
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 1: gonna watched it with Bernie Mack? And um oh it's

1619
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 1: his name, man, Oh fuck, I'm Samuel Jackson. Okay, man,

1620
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: Oh they re enact your whole songs. But it's it's

1621
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 1: a comedy. Yeah, yeah, it's called So Man. I thought

1622
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 1: that's what you see that everybo somebody seen that shit, right, Yeah, yeah,

1623
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 1: they got your whole ship. Yeah, they're trying to be

1624
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: the Ozzy. But it was funny about it. Yea mentioned

1625
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: the Blues Brothers earlier. They were they were doing Ozzie

1626
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 1: Brothers song. Who's with Bruce Brothers outfits on? So it's

1627
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 1: it's a comedy, so it's not like to take it

1628
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: too serious. But they still they stole your whole shit.

1629
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: This is bad. I know because I'm a rapper and

1630
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm a part of the community, have also stole your

1631
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 1: whole ship. Yeah, salute, but the salut in because again, man,

1632
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 1: it's called soul man. Yeah, I want to see that

1633
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 1: so man, Yeah, obviously it's before Bernie Mac passed away. Day.

1634
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 1: I sitting there, They're like, you know, they're doing the moves,

1635
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: they're doing everything. They copying your music. Um, but it's

1636
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: funny because um it was Okay, okay, you're gonna read

1637
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 1: it off your phone. Well, Alice fish Gerald, we'd better

1638
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 1: ask him. Oh yeah, because they didn't ask about woman. Yeah,

1639
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go about the Well I would like a

1640
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 1: Diana Roy story. We'll leave me to today today or

1641
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 1: this month. Um, I listened a very whole lot Oflop

1642
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 1: Fish Gerald because to my wife, she's plays it in

1643
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 1: the house like it's it's a new record again. He

1644
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 1: is one of the great greatest singers. I think, you know,

1645
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 1: just yeah did she just had had it all? And

1646
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 1: my mother and father would play here or the same

1647
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: as I heard here today in my house. Yeah, that's

1648
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 1: that's the truth. My wife is right there. You can

1649
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 1: ask it makes a noise up. We respect that. Yeah.

1650
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: And Diana Ross, we got a Diana Ross story. Diana

1651
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 1: that was I mean, I feel like we could say

1652
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: any name. And because of how much you guys are,

1653
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, everybody influential a part of it. You've been

1654
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 1: you've been active. You have a story with these people. Yeah, yeah,

1655
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: excuse me, something worse. See this, This is the reason

1656
01:56:56,160 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 1: why he stays over there. We need to mike him

1657
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 1: up though. Yeah, but then but then cover his face.

1658
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 1: At some point. We can't hear you, but we can't

1659
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 1: see you. We don't want to see you. Listen, Listen,

1660
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 1: it is my friend. Listen. I'm gonna be honest, man,

1661
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 1: I have so much fun. I can keep going all day,

1662
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 1: I can keep asking y'all ship all day and we

1663
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: would it would be and it's and this has been.

1664
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 1: I think it's the first time I had goose bumps

1665
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 1: the whole time because I just kept like clapping, like

1666
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, like the little Chucky doll clap clapping because

1667
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, like to come and encounter with you

1668
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 1: brothers and your beautiful family and everyone y'all came with

1669
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 1: um for making sure that y'all you know, came here

1670
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: and and in your presence is known because you know,

1671
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 1: in our community we need this. We need to pick

1672
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 1: up our legends. We need to tell our legends how

1673
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 1: important they are, and not on a tweet. We could

1674
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,120
Speaker 1: say it face to face, man to man. You can

1675
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 1: say and and I'm gonna say when when you're here,

1676
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say when you're not here, I'm gonna say

1677
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 1: when I'm thinking about you, because you fucking deserve it.

1678
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 1: You are legends icons the great. I personally want about

1679
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: to you, guys. You know what I mean. In my way, Yes,

1680
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 1: in my way I went about because it's one million

1681
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 1: percent um. I know, if y'all didn't do what y'all did,

1682
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:38,760
Speaker 1: we probably won't be able to do what we're doing

1683
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: right now. It's foundational. And I ain't saying that to gas.

1684
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: I ain't saying that to Um. I'm says yes or

1685
01:58:49,840 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 1: that was which one? Which one? Yeah, we can't have

1686
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 1: to call you scared. Let me be the one to say,

1687
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. I am just playing. We love them

1688
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 1: both both from Chicago to Man. Y'all shout down, play

1689
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 1: let's play. Learn a lot from listening watching those shows.

1690
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 1: Why can't you guys the questions you asked them, you know,

1691
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 1: don't know you don't learn a lot from that. Man,

1692
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you much. We're here to

1693
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: give you your flowers and we so this is, this

1694
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 1: is We're gonna take a picture and then we do

1695
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: a couple of drops and that's it. Man. I'm so happy. Man,

1696
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 1: I really I wouldn't even want to say say this. Man.

1697
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 1: I thank y'all. Man, I really thank y'all because y'all

1698
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 1: didn't have to take your time out to do this.

1699
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 1: Y'all didn't have to take your time out to continue

1700
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 1: to represent the culture. But the fact that y'all do,

1701
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:03,080
Speaker 1: I think, Man, I really am. I really am thankful. Um,

1702
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:05,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, I had goosebumps this whole time. Thank

1703
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 1: you supportive family for being a part of it as well,

1704
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 1: because obviously they're the support system in your lives as well.

1705
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, is

1706
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 1: that bottle almost done? Sunny? We wanted to try it.

1707
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:39,520
Speaker 1: Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production and association

1708
02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 1: with Interval Presents hosts and executive producers n O r

1709
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 1: E and dj e FN from Interval Presents executive producers

1710
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 1: Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg. Listen to Drink Champs on

1711
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 1: Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get

1712
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 1: your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode of

1713
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 1: Drink Champs hosted by Yours Truly, dj e FN and

1714
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:07,840
Speaker 1: n O r E. Please make sure to follow us

1715
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 1: on all our socials. Let's at drink Champs across all

1716
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:15,080
Speaker 1: platforms at the Real noriegon ig at Noriaga on Twitter,

1717
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 1: mine is at Who's Crazy on ig at, dj e

1718
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 1: fn on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to date

1719
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 1: with the latest releases, news and merch by going to

1720
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 1: drink Champs dot com.