1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now Get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warre. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Ready to be by the Wizard of Weird with JOSHUAE Warren. 11 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: I am Joshua you Warren, and each week on this show, 12 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, 13 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: and wait here in experiments you can do at home, 14 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: and a lot more on this edition of the show. Oija, 15 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Ghosts and Angels question mark. Yeah, you don't hear those 16 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: words put together too often. You hear about oija boards 17 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: and ghosts, but angels. Well, I'm recording this show in 18 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: the fall of twenty twenty four, and so it's a 19 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: good time to talk about this. But I also want 20 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: to point out that it's pretty pretty dry here in 21 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: the desert of Las Vegas, and being a professional talker 22 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: gets kind of tough out here in this climate. I mean, 23 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm right next to Death Valley, so you might hear 24 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: the dryness and my voice today. So I hope you'll 25 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: forgive me, But I do want to get into this 26 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: story from nineteen sixty. How old were your parents in 27 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty? Think about that for a second, or were 28 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: they even around in nineteen sixty. I mean, there are 29 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: people who are very young who listen to this show. 30 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty, My mom and dad were eight years old, 31 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: And it's kind of interesting just to put stories in 32 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: that kind of context. Because the account that I'm going 33 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: to read you to read to you comes from a 34 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: man who used a wage board in nineteen sixty and 35 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: he started asking the biggest question and he believes that 36 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't just getting some nonsense. You'll see why I'm 37 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: reading this to you. He seems to think that he 38 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: has confirmation that he was communicating with an angel that 39 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: was using an ancient language, and he asked questions like 40 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: what is reality? What is heaven? What is time? Is 41 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: their life after death? What is the mind. Yeah, you're 42 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: gonna get the answer to all these questions shortly. Oh boy, 43 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: I make some big promises on this show, don't I. 44 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: But let's just for the heck of it, let's go 45 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and talk about the wija board for just a moment, 46 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: because some people call it a wig board, and it's 47 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: not wigi. It's wija wijeborn and it seems okay based 48 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: on what I understand. It's from the French yes we 49 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: and then like the German word for yes, like yeah oija. 50 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: Let's see what it says here, The Almighty Wikipedia Ouija, 51 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: also known as a wija board, spirit board, talking board, 52 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: or which board, is a flat board mark with the 53 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: letters of the Latin alphabet, the numbers zero through nine, 54 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: and the words yes, no, and occasionally hello and goodbye, 55 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: along with various symbols and graphics. It uses a plan shit, 56 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: which is a small heart shaped piece of wood or plastic, 57 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: as a movable indicator to spell out messages. During seance, 58 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: participants place their fingers on the plan chet and it 59 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: has moved about the board to spell out words. The 60 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: name Ouija is a trademark of Hasbro, inherited for Parker Brothers, 61 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: but is often used generically to refer to any talking board, 62 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: goes on to say, here's spiritualist in the United States 63 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: believed that the dead were able to contact the living, 64 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: and reportedly used a talking board very similar to the 65 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: modern Wiga board at their camps in Ohio during eighteen 66 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: eighty six, with the intent of enabling faster communication with spirits. 67 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: That's all it says about that. I read that. I 68 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: was like, what what do you mean? They're camps in Ohio. 69 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: But look, I don't have time to dig into the 70 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: history of wija board. We'll do that some other time. 71 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm just giving you some kind of an idea, it says. 72 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: Following its commercial patent by businessman Elijah Bond in eighteen 73 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: ninety one, the wija board was regarded as an innocent 74 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: parlor game unrelated to the occult until American spiritualist Pearl 75 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Curran popped pularized its use as a divining tool during 76 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: World War One. All right, and again, who is who 77 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: is Pearl Current? I don't know. Maybe someday I'll sit 78 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: down and just do a whole show where we dig 79 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: into the wig aboard. But that's not the purpose of 80 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: this show. This show is to communicate with you the 81 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: messages that this guy got through this weige board and 82 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty. Now here's why I'm bringing this up. 83 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: You know, for decades I have been a friend of 84 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: Phyllis Galdy and she is the current owner publisher of 85 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: Fate Magazine, one of the greatest publications of all time. 86 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: And last year, my wife Lauren bought me this book 87 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: that was published in the nineteen sixties and it's called 88 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: Fate's Strangest Mysteries, a true and startlingk chronicle of fantastic 89 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: people and strange events science cannot explain. And occasionally I 90 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: will read a story from this because I contacted Philis 91 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Galdy and I asked her if it was okay with her, 92 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: and she said, yes, absolutely. And if you are not 93 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: a subscriber to Fate Magazine, you go right now and 94 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: sign up Fate mag fat e mag fatemag dot com. 95 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: You can get digital products, printed products. So I was 96 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: sitting down and you know what, I think that Lauren 97 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: bought this book for me about a year ago because 98 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: it was a birthday present, because you know, my birthday 99 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: is in October. And it's funny when this book came out. 100 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: This little paperback came out in nineteen In the nineteen sixties, 101 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: it was fifty cents fifty cents. So here's this story 102 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: called did I Speak with Angels? Gustav Gumbert and I Again, 103 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: this kind of stood out for me because you think 104 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: of using a wija board to like tap into some dark, spooky, terrifying, 105 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: possibly demonic energy. But no, he thinks he might have 106 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: talked to angels. So let me I'm just going to 107 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: start reading what he said here, and I'm going to 108 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: skip around a little bit. Where do wija board messages 109 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: come from from the unconscious minds of the operators, from 110 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: beings dwelling in a world beyond? Or are they telepathic communications? 111 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: These were the questions that filled our minds as a 112 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: friend and I hunched over the wija board one snowy 113 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: night last winter. We were determined to make a calm 114 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: and objective experiment. Actually, we were about to get the 115 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: shock of our laws, for we received a series of 116 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: messages that reversed our opinion on the chances of communicating 117 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: with the world beyond the senses. As the pointer slid 118 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: evenly deliberately across the board, we saw spelled out before 119 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: our astonished eyes a message that never could have come 120 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: from either of our minds. It was in a language 121 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: that neither of us knew, one no man has ever spoken. 122 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: But let's begin at the beginning. The first part of 123 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: the message was in English. Quote this is Raphael. End quote. 124 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: Then we received a brilliant lecture on occult philosophy that, 125 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: when written down, filled one notebook page. Well, this much, 126 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: we decided, could have bubbled up from our unconscious minds. 127 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: We both had read a little literature sure of occultism, 128 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: and we knew that Rafael, along with Gabriel, Michael, and Uriel, 129 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: were the four archangels of the ancient Hebrews angelic hierarchy. 130 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: And you know, so we were. We were dissatisfied. What 131 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: we wanted was a test that would definitely rule out 132 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: the chances of our unconscious collaborating with the board, and 133 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: we challenged that we Ja or whatever was operating it, 134 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: to give us proof beyond any question. The next message seemed, 135 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: at first glance like a string of nonsense syllables E 136 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: C A R A F A E L O. 137 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: D V A O A N I O d I 138 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: A O D P I l t A. I. 139 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: We first thought, quite naturally this was pure gibberish, but 140 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: a certain precision about the movements of the point or 141 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: aroused our suspicion, and instead of moving wildly as one 142 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: might expect, it moved with decisiveness that suggested intelligent and 143 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: conscious directions. So let's go with it, I said, we 144 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: may be getting something after all. Well, we're going to 145 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back. This guy from 146 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty is going to explain to you why that 147 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: he realized this was an angelic language that has a 148 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: basis in history that was unknown coming through and once 149 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: he unlocked that, wait to hear what this angel had 150 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: to say through the weigilboard. You know, it's funny because 151 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: I sit down to do the show and I get 152 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: overwhelmed because there's so much to talk about. 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Welcome back to Strange 169 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 170 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard of We're 171 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain from my 172 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: studio in Sin City, Las Vegas. I've hada where every 173 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: day is golden and every night is silver. A zietato zume. 174 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: And before we get back to this wija board story, 175 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: here's something that you probably did not know about me. 176 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: My dad, Danny Warren, is also an author. And you 177 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: know I interviewed my dad on this show a while back. 178 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Let's see. Oh yeah, it was episode one hundred. I 179 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: wanted to do that as a special occasion. Episode one 180 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: hundred of this this podcast called Strange Things is called 181 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: Joshua interviews his dad about the paranormal and he has 182 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: a surprise. And there is a surprise in that, by 183 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: the way, because my dad, well maybe I shouldn't tell 184 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: you if you haven't listened to it. I don't want 185 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: to spoil it for you. But you'll never guess what 186 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: the surprise is. My dad has written a couple of books, 187 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: and he likes to write these books that are he 188 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: likes to write fiction, and he likes to write ken 189 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: I guess, like paranormal novellas or novelettes that are maybe 190 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: like one hundred pages or so for all ages. And 191 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm holding in my hands, I kid you, and i'd 192 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: just got the very first copy in the mail today, 193 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: my dad's new book. He writes under the pen name 194 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: Stone Owl, Stone Owl. Why is that? Well, we'll let 195 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: that be a mystery for a while. You can dwell 196 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: on that. But when I was a kid, the first 197 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: time I ever heard about the Brown mountain lights, these 198 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: mysterious illuminations, these balls of light floating around the mountains 199 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: of Western North Carolina was when my dad would tell 200 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: me these stories about the Brown Mountain Lights, and he 201 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: loved that song. There's a song called the Legend of 202 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: the Brown Mountain Lights by Tommy fail and my dad, 203 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: who was in his seventies. You know, he was born 204 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: in western North Carolina. He's lived there his whole life. 205 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: He finally decided to sit down and take a lot 206 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: of the stories, the legends and the fun stuff and 207 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: combine them with some of the scientific research and write 208 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: this story. And it's called Brown Mountain Lights Adventure. I 209 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: got it literally, I just got this a couple hours 210 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: ago out of the mill. And on the back is 211 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: a picture of my dad, Danny Warren Stone. Now, and 212 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: here's what it says. After losing his mother, Randy Early's 213 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: life changes when he meets a mystical man named Daniel 214 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: while fishing by the river. I know that's confusing, isn't it, 215 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: because my dad's name is Daniel. But he anyway, you 216 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: see where this is going, all right, So, after considerable persistence, 217 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: Daniel enlists Randy's help to destroy the aliens on Brown 218 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: Mountain near Ashville, North Carolina. After meeting people not of 219 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: this earth and experiencing many trials and tribulations, the men 220 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: discover that the aliens are not so easy to beat. 221 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: An entertaining story for all ages, and good for sharing 222 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: around the campfire. And then there's a little bio of 223 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: my dad. Says Born and raised in the mountains of 224 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: western North Carolina, stone Owl resides with his wife, roaming 225 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: throughout the Appalachians, wood carving and enjoying the best blue 226 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: ridge life has to offer. I'll tell you what this. 227 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: He wrote a poem in the beginning, and I'm just 228 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: going to read you the poem. This is published by 229 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Lisa Hagen's Books. I've known Lisa Hagen for years, and 230 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. She only publishes the best stuff. 231 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: She has published some of my stuff, so I can 232 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: speak from experience. She knows she knows a good author, right. 233 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: And here's a poem that opens the book. This is 234 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: from my father, Nanny Warren, I e Stone Owl. As 235 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: we stood upon the rim from Wiseman's view and gazed 236 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: to the gorge. The Linnville River meandered along its crooked, 237 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: rocky path. The splendor from the view above, I hoped 238 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: would always last. Across the canyon. You could see the 239 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: famous Table Rock, watching over a hawk Bill Mountain from 240 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: the flatness of its top. In the distance stood Brown Mountain, 241 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: the most mystic place to be rising each night its 242 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: mysterious lights. Only a few have been privileged to see. When, 243 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: to my surprise interview, there glides a giant that I've 244 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: never seen, a bald eagle by name. All know it's fame, 245 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: a symbol of freedom and peace, such a majestic one 246 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: with strength and grace. As he sailed on toward the east, 247 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: his course was set the way the river went. As 248 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: he floated through the sky, I prayed that he would 249 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: turn around, but I could only tell him by a 250 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: place of such beauty I never knew existed so close 251 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: to home. I'd find a treasure like this. As darkness 252 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: falls upon the land, while still gazing at the sky, 253 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: a distant light begins to rise from the mountain before 254 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: my eyes. I realize now that I've viewed the lights 255 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: that have been rising through the years. A wetness falls 256 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: from both my eyes. I guess you call it tears. 257 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: The lights are real, and I've been blessed among the 258 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: few to sit and watch from my seat of rock. 259 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: The light's mysterious views the Brown Mountain Lights. They rise 260 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: all night and slowly fade away. Now I've seen the 261 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: views by night, and I've seen the views by day. 262 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: It's getting so cold I have to go, so I'm 263 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: starting out the trail. If anyone tells you the lights 264 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: aren't real, just tell them time will tell. That's how 265 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: my dad opens this book, Brown Mountain Lights Adventure, and 266 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: then it gets into this crazy story. So how cool 267 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: is that? If you want to get a copy Brown 268 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Mountain Lights BML, go to bmlbook dot com bmlbook dot 269 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: It costs ten bucks for crying out loud and unless 270 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: if you just want the kindle bmlbook dot com. And 271 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: also there are links at Brownmountain Lights dot com that's 272 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: all spelled out, and then Ridgehoppers dot com. That's my 273 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: dad's other book. It's called Ridge Hoppers ridge Hoppers dot com. 274 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: But the easiest way to go straight to Amazon is 275 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: bmlbook dot com. Congratulations Dad, and I hope you all 276 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: realize that. Well, if you think that I am a weirdo, 277 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: obviously it was in my genes. I inherited this interest 278 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: in strange things, and my dad has proven that. So 279 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: Brown mountain. Miight's adventure is perfect for this time of 280 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: year because this is the time of year when you 281 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: have the best chances of seeing the brown mountain lights 282 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: there in western North Carolina. Look it up, all right, 283 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: back to this Oijaboard story. So all right, so basically, 284 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: this guy, he's there with his buddy, and he said 285 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: that he wants to point out, okay, these words are 286 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: coming in that seemed like gibberish. And he says, it's 287 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: only fair to say that between the two of us 288 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: we do read or speak eight languages German, English, French, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, Latin, 289 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: and Greek. We also have a smattering of some of 290 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: the Slavic tongues. And I had once taken a brief 291 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: and not very useful core in Hindustani. So this guy 292 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: keeps talking about how like like he and his buddy 293 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: they know all these languages and they're but they're not 294 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: figuring out what's coming through here. So they take this 295 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: information and he says, flickering in the recesses of my 296 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: memory was a recollection that somewhere I had read about 297 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: a strange language that had been discovered in England centuries 298 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: ago by two mystics. It stuck in my mind that 299 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: this language was supposed to have been spoken by an angel. Now, 300 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: for those who may feel skeptical at this point, let 301 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: me say that I have never seen any samples of 302 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: this hidden language. Somewhere in my mind, I remember reading 303 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: a reference to doctor John d the court astrologer to 304 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth. The article said that d and collaboration with 305 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: a man named Edward Kelly, had received and recorded messages 306 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: in a language that he learned from an angel. So 307 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: this guy goes really in depth here, okay, talking about 308 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: who John d was, and he goes back. Long story short, 309 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: as we say, he goes back and he realizes that 310 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: when he starts looking at this quote unquote gibberish that's 311 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: coming through and comparing it to this ancient language that 312 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: John Dee said was an angelic language and John d 313 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: was the inspiration for the real Merlin, suddenly they break, 314 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: they break the code and they start deciphering this angelic 315 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: language coming through, coming through. He says. From that day on, 316 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: the messages continued, Oh boy, we're already up on our 317 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: next break. See this is why you got to sign 318 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: up for my newsletter. When we come back. I'm gonna 319 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: tell you the answer is this angel, possible angel gave 320 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: this man to these questions. What is reality? What is heaven? 321 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: What is time? Is their life after death? What is mine? 322 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: And let's just see what you think. Does it? Does 323 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: it ring true for you? And then also, do you 324 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: know the story of the scientific Chicken? You ever heard 325 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: that one? I bet you haven't. When we come back, 326 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the story. Well, at some point I'll 327 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: see if I can squeeze it in for you as well. 328 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: We have too much going on. Oh yeah, you know 329 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: that they released a video of the investigation that I 330 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: did here in Las Vegas. Man, I gotta tell you 331 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: about that. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're listening to Strange 332 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 333 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: Podcast Network, and I will be back after these important messages. 334 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 335 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren, 336 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. 337 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: On my last show, I was telling you about this 338 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: investigation that I did for the city of Las Vegas. 339 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, like we're talking dot gov real paranormal investigation 340 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: making history film by Guy Finalosy, and as usual, he 341 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: did an absolutely fantastic job. If you follow me on 342 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: social media, you will have seen this already. But if not, 343 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: just go to YouTube and it's the city the City 344 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: of Las Vegas has a YouTube channel and the title 345 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: is we Go ghost Hunting with a Professional Paranormal Investigator, 346 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: so you can find it there. It's a little over 347 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: six minutes long. And yeah, everybody just did a wonderful job. 348 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: And as I knew, of course, some of the more 349 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: grim details did not make the cut on the official 350 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: dot gov video, and I don't I don't blame them 351 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: for that because it wasn't necessary. But that's why I 352 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: did the podcast last week and I told you the 353 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: behind the scenes scoop on everything. But what an honor, 354 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: What an honor to be uh, to be invited for that. 355 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: But also, you know what, I don't talk about politics, 356 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: you know this. The only political thing that is important 357 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: to me is free speech. For obvious reasons, I'm a 358 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: professional talker, so I definitely believe that free speech is 359 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: the most important right of all. And sometimes the Internet 360 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: gets a little little wonky, little wishy washy. So like, 361 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: for example, I'm meant to point out, like, if you 362 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: are interested in my dad's book and you're having a 363 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: problem accessing it, just go to Amazon dot com and 364 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: just look for just do a search for Brown Mountain 365 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: Lights Adventure by Stone Owl, and you'll be able to 366 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: find it that way as well. Okay, so much to 367 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: talk about, so little time. Back to Fate's strangest mysteries, 368 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: Gustav Gumbert. So anyway, he and his companion they decipher 369 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: this ancient angelic language, and you know, I could, I 370 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: could sit here and tell you for three hours you 371 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: know how they did all this. But let's just cut 372 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: to the chase. Here are the answers to the questions. 373 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: Number one. Okay, so this is a question that he 374 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: asked on April eighteenth of nineteen sixty, April being a 375 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: very paranormal month. What is reality? The angel speaking through 376 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: the weigiboard, which I know is an unusual concept, as 377 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: you usually think of wijiborgs as being some kind of 378 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: nasty thing. But hey, the angel says, the world as 379 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: you see and know it is not the true world, 380 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: the world of your senses is one of many possible worlds. 381 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: You will never understand this until you have experienced the 382 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: greater view of the universe, which is what men mean 383 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: when they speak of enlightenment. This is the meaning of 384 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: the Japanese zen Satori, the meaning of the Buddha when 385 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: he spoke of nirvana, and of Jesus when he spoke 386 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: of heaven. Okay, So then he asks this angel, speaking 387 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: in this archaic, obscure language, well, what is heaven? The 388 00:29:54,400 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: angel says, a state of mind open to all men, 389 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: which comes through careful following of the path. It is 390 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: a new experience of the universe which shows the many 391 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: worlds within the one world, and the one world within 392 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: the many. So then he says, well, what is required 393 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: for faith healing? And the angel says, to be a healer, 394 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: one must first learn to release the unconscious, as all 395 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: power of the earthly type flows from this source. Secondly, 396 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: you must learn to focus this unconscious power on one 397 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: problem at a time. The unconscious operates when you are asleep. Therefore, 398 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: before going to sleep, concentrate on one subject. Limit your 399 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: concentration to one phrase or sentence of not more than 400 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: ten words. Repeat this over and over. Your unconscious will 401 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: do the rest, and you will achieve. You will achieve 402 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: the objective. Then he says, well, what is time? The 403 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: Angel says, there is no time as you know it. 404 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: Everything in the universe is an experience occurring simultaneously. You 405 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: perceive them in many parts, and that is what you 406 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: mean by time. And now we're jumping into May of 407 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty, and he says, is their life after death? 408 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: The Angel says time has no beginning or ending, nor 409 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: do you. It is as though you walked through a 410 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: series of rooms. Each room is there and continues to 411 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: exist after you depart from it. Before you enter it 412 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: is the future, and after you leave it is the past. 413 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: But the room is always there. It is you who changes. 414 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: You will always continue, for you are a great circle 415 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: that begins nowhere and ends nowhere. And lastly, he asks 416 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: this question May ninth of nineteen sixty What is mind? 417 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: And the Angel says, the function of the mind is 418 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: not clearly understood by science. The mind is not the brain. 419 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: On the contrary, the brain is an instrument that is 420 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: used by the mind to achieve its purpose. The mind, 421 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: in turn, is part of a total system and this 422 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: system cannot be fully comprehended unless it is experiences. The 423 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: brain is an electronic system. The mind is a multi 424 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: dimensional system, greater than the brain in more than size. 425 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: It is like putting the ocean in a bottle to 426 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: try to understand the mind with the brain. Therefore, resign 427 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: yourself to the fact that you will never understand the mind. 428 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: You can only experience it. For if you try to 429 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: understand the greater with the lesser, what can you learn? 430 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: And then he goes on to say, in addition to 431 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: these messages, I was given many examples of independent knowledge 432 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: of facts, events, and situations that we could not have known. 433 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: Most of these are personal, however, and cannot be reported here. 434 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: He summarizes by saying, this remarkable experience raises a number 435 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: of questions, how can we explain by any rational method 436 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: the message in angelic before either of us the operators 437 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: had seen the language. And most remarkable of all, I 438 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: think this experience has caused two hard headed skeptics to 439 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: question their own explanations of the universe. For if we 440 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: can talk with angels, well, what kind of world do 441 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: we really live in? Did you get anything out of that? Again? 442 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: My thanks to philis Galdy Fate Magazine, fatemag dot com. 443 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: You know, isn't that interesting something that happened in nineteen sixty. 444 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: Here it is twenty twenty four. I'm reading this from 445 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty, and yet it sort of it makes sense, 446 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: doesn't it. I think it makes sense. Well, I remember 447 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: when I was in college. Let's see, Yeah, I got 448 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: a scholarship to college because I'm extremely handsome. You know, 449 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: if you took Harrison Ford and Brad Pitt and merged 450 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: them into some Greek anyway, So I think I was 451 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: in college and I was taking biology. I could be 452 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: wrong about this, but I'm at some point in my 453 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: life I was taking biology and I was told that 454 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: there was an experiment that was done about genetic memory. 455 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of this? That basically, they some 456 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: scientists took some kind of worm or something, and they 457 00:35:53,040 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: they taught it to navigate a maze to get a treat, 458 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: and then when the worm died, they grounded up and 459 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: they fed this worm to a brand new baby worm, 460 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: and then they put that babyworm in the maze, and 461 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: the baby worm knew how to solve the maze and 462 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: get the treat. And it kind of makes you wonder 463 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: a little bit about genetics and how things are passed 464 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: along and instinct in all of that, Well, is there 465 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: any truth to that whatsoever, that there is some form 466 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: of immortality that is not just spiritual but sort of 467 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: a physical way of surviving death and passing along information, 468 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: especially if time is all happening at once and we're 469 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: just sort of experiencing it. I want to dig a 470 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: little bit into genetic memory because there's a new news 471 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: story that also is saying that, well, there may be 472 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: a new variation online life after death, which is based 473 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: upon the idea of genetic memory, of things being passed 474 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: along from creature to creature over time, that life after 475 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: death is not just a spiritual thing but literally a 476 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: physical thing, and that you've always been around because well, 477 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: you're here right now. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening 478 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 479 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: I am a normal podcast network, and I will be 480 00:37:38,920 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the final segment of this 481 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: edition of Strange Things ah the iHeartRadio and Coast to 482 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: Coast am paranormal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. 483 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: Warren and I mentioned that on a past episode. I 484 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: mentioned that I spent an evening with Page Bryant. Paige 485 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: Bryant was an author who popularized VO Texas. She started 486 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: in Sedona, Arizona, and then she ended up moving to 487 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: western North Carolina, and my friend Brian Irish and I 488 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: went and spent a night with her, and I just 489 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: remember like one of the things she said was do 490 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: you know the story of the scientific Chicken? And I 491 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: said no, and she and she said, uh, well, all 492 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: the scientific Chicken was there taking notes every day and said, 493 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: all right, well, it appears that the farmer comes out 494 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: here every day about six in the morning and feeds us, 495 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: and then he comes out and you know, he waters 496 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: us about eight in the morning, and then he waters 497 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: us again about two in the afternoon, and then he 498 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: comes and he feeds us again about three in the afternoon. 499 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: And I've documented this a thousand times. So this is 500 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: a law. This is this is this is what the 501 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: farmer does. This is a law. It's like a law 502 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: of physics. And then one day the farmer comes out 503 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: and jerks them all out of there and cuts their 504 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: heads off. So it's it's probably not the best story 505 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: to tell your child. But it has to do with, 506 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, the uncertainty that we all feel. Just because 507 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: you're used to something and you've seen it happen this 508 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: particular way ninety nine point nine percent of the time 509 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: doesn't mean there cannot be a gigantic exception. And you know, 510 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to death, like living and dying and 511 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: all that, it is interesting to think about how we 512 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: fit into this, Like we just get used to things, 513 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, we get we just get to I don't 514 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: want to say in a rut. Sometimes we get in 515 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: a rut, but you just get used to things that 516 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: you start taking your life for granted sometimes, you know. 517 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: I was born in Asheville, North Carolina, and Thomas Wolfe 518 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: is the most famous author from there. And he wrote 519 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: in his book Look Homeward Angel about watching his brother 520 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: Ben die of tuberculosis. So here's Thomas wolf This is 521 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: a man from you know. Well, well, Thomas wolf died 522 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: in the I think in the thirties, so this would 523 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: have been anyway like so he writes this. He's sitting 524 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: there and he's looking at his brother and he wrote 525 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: quote the rattling and the wasted body, which seemed for 526 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: hours to have given over to death. All of life 527 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: that is worth saving had now ceased. The body appeared 528 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: to grow rigid before them, and then Ben breathed one 529 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: more gasp of breath, opening his eyes, rising off his pillow, 530 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: to the astonishment of Tom and his family, before passing, 531 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: as Thomas Wolfe wrote, quote instantly scornful and unafraid, as 532 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: he had lived into the shades of death. End quote. 533 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: But this is the thing that stuck out really for me, 534 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: he wrote. We can believe and the nothingness of life. 535 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: We can believe, and the nothingness of death and of 536 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: life after death. But who can believe in the nothingness 537 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 1: of Ben? You know? My favorite story by Thomas Wolfe 538 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: was called The Far and the Near And if you 539 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: want to hear me read it for free, just go 540 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: to jp w's Those are my initials, jp Go to 541 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: jpwstory dot com and you can hear me read The 542 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: Far and the Near. It makes you It does make 543 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: you wonder, doesn't it about our place in the universe. 544 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: So there's a story that came out about I guess 545 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: maybe it's genetic memory. I mean, I read this story 546 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: during the break and honestly, the story kind of sucks. 547 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: But basically, like genetic memory, is this theorized phenomenon in 548 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: which certain kinds of memories could be inherited being present 549 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: at birth in the absence of any associated sensory experience, 550 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: and that such memories could be incorporated into the genome 551 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: over long spans of time. And that's it. Is it 552 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: true or not? It's kind of up in the air. Still, 553 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: it's wishy washy, but we knew, we do know that 554 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: instinct exists. So I got sent this story from somebody 555 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: from Unexplained hyphen Mysteries dot com. It's called Scientists discover 556 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: new third state between life and death and it basically 557 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: says it's not quite Frankenstein's Monster, but the find is 558 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: likely to push the boundaries of life, death, and medicine. 559 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: Researchers have found that skin cells extracted from deceased frog 560 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: embryos were able to adapt to the new conditions of 561 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: a petri dish in a lab, spontaneously reorganizing into multi 562 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: cellular organisms called xenobox xenobots. This is not easy to 563 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: read nor easy to speak, Okay, so let me try 564 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: this again, Okay. Researchers found that skin cells extracted from 565 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: dead frog embryos were able to adapt to the new 566 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: conditions of a Patriot dish and a lab spontaneously reorganizing 567 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: into multi cellular organisms called xenobox, and these organisms exhibit 568 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: behaviors that extend far beyond their original biological roles. These 569 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: xenobots use their cillia, little small hair like structures to 570 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: navigate and move through their surroundings. Xenobots are also able 571 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: to perform kinematic self replication, meaning they can physically replicate 572 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: their structure andunction without growing. See. I don't even understand 573 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: exactly what they're talking about here. I mean, like I think, 574 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: I think what they're trying to say is that if 575 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: you break this down, you can take Okay, let's read this. 576 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: It says the third state challenges how scientists typically understand 577 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: cell behavior. While caterpillars metamorphosing into butterflies or tadpoles evolving 578 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: into frogs may be familiar, there are a few instances 579 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: where organisms change in ways that are not predetermined. Tumors, organoids, 580 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: and cell lines that can indefinitely divide in a petri 581 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 1: dish are not considered part of the third state because 582 00:45:52,800 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: they do not develop new functions. But I think that 583 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: what they're saying is that some of these cells are 584 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: able to adapt things which may be similar to the 585 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: genetic memory thing I was talking about. I'm really not certain, 586 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: you know. That's one thing about this show. I mean, 587 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna like sit here and pretend that 588 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: every story that pops up in front of me that 589 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: is interesting is something that I understand, because I mean, 590 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: that would be foolish, wouldn't it. I don't know, I 591 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: don't understand. I'm just as confused as you are half 592 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: the time. Well we're almost out of time, though, So 593 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: how about this. Let me leave you with this piece 594 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: of mental manner. My beautiful wife, Lauren, she just celebrated 595 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 1: a birthday. We've been together for twenty seven years, and 596 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: I bought her a really nice gift and I was 597 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to hide it from her, 598 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: and I realized that, hey, I don't know about you. 599 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself. If you want to 600 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: keep a secret from your wife, put it on top 601 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: of the refrigerator. Now. Now, granted I'm only talking about myself. 602 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm six two, and Lauren, I mean you know, she's 603 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: she's five seven I think. I mean, so, you know, 604 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: but if you put something on top of the refrigerator, 605 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: chances are she's never going to see it. Uh. The 606 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: odds of her getting a ladder out and walking up 607 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 1: there to see what's on top of the fridge. I bet. 608 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: I bet the top of your refrigerator is dusty. There 609 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: may be a whole ecosystem living on top of that refrigerator. 610 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: So that's called that a public service announcement. That's my 611 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: advice for you on how to keep a secret from 612 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: your wife, no matter what it is, put it on 613 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: top of the refrigerator. All right. I came up with 614 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: that all by myself, Thank you very much. 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