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Welcome to 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Patriots Unfiltered. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 3: The thing that caught my eyes I was walking out 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: here was Morgan Moses and Will Campbell a one on 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: one session in the middle of the practice. 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: I might need a moment. 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 4: It started just with him and Will Campbell, and Will 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 4: Campbell's like you people came over, yeah, Will Campbell's like 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 4: Kateen Wallace came over, and kan Wallace just standing there 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 4: watching Morgan Moses listening, and then Marcus, Marcus Bryant, he 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: starts to come on and all of them are kind of. 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: Like, you know, he's feeding the masses with you know, 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: tuloads of bread and a fish. Every word that that 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: guy says. I just I was hanging on. 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: H right, tell me more than yeah you be my dad. 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Our first day of OTA, so we're ready. 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: To go's not here to rain on our Yeah, yeah, yeah, 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: they were. Okay, I've been thinking too much about this 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: Father Fred show keeps popping into my head. 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: I actually have my treatment, but it's not Father Fred. 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: It's the Chicago pope, right, right, He became as good 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: a priest as he was a cop, and he rotse. 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: He became a bishop and a cardinal and then eventually pope. 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: But when he was young, he was a police officer 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: and he was a damn good one. Huh. He can 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: never turn his back on Chicago, so he always goes 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: back to help them fight crime. You hear about my 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: time in Tampa. This is Patriot's Unfiltered. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 5: Presented by Toyota's official website for deals by a Toyota 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 5: dot com. 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is a rainy 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: Thursday here at Jilette Stadium. Temperatures are in the forties. 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: We're back to winter here in New England. It's crazy. 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: Feel bad for the North Carolina women's lacrosse team that 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: was just walking onto the stadium for practice. 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: No, I was thinking about that. We got the NCAA 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: Cross here, the final four this weekend. The women have 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: their first their semis today. Is that what it is? Tomorrow? 41 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 6: Tomorrow? 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: Tomorrow? Tomorrow? What's today? Thursday? Yeah, so they're going to 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: be playing tomorrow, but the weather is terrible. They got 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: practice and it's awful. Get hit when one of those 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: lacrossballs in this weather. 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 7: And. 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: Anyway, it's Evan Paul's back, it's duein'ce me. Matt's in 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: the booth. We're talking Patriots for the next two hours. 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: Ot as we went to those a couple of days ago. 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: We wrapped that up. So I don't know if there's 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: any lingering observations. 52 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 6: Yes, are there any more shots? You'd like to take? 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 8: It me? 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: In's everything that I'm wrong with that practice. 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 6: You know that's a good point, did you? 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 7: Guys probably never mentioned the fact that the quarterbacks before 57 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 7: week No, I'll let everybody know that that happened, and 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 7: I am also going to let everybody know that it 59 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 7: didn't bother me at all. Yeah, didn't bother me at all. 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: That's true. 61 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 7: When you're installing an offense, things are happening for a 62 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 7: variety of different reasons and they don't all mean something bad. 63 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 7: So didn't didn't bother me in the least. Is that 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 7: raining on your parade? 65 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 6: Mike? You don't think I didn't hear you in the back? 66 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: No, it was. 67 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 6: I mean, I agree with what you said. 68 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: I mean it's I think the reasonable people understand this 69 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: is I was thinking about it. 70 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: Do you want drake me. 71 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: To come in and look instantly perfect in this offense? 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 6: Would that make yes? Would that make you feel good? 73 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 6: That would make me feel I'm not gonna lie. 74 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 7: It would have made me feel better if you're through 75 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 7: four touchdowns instead of four interceptions. 76 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: But I don't want those, no, Paul, It's like twelve 77 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: win seasons. I'm done with you all over the defense. 78 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 7: The defense, well, just one, just no particular play and 79 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 7: it wasn't one of the interceptions. You know, just as 80 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 7: an example of it. You don't really know exactly what 81 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 7: they're trying to do. Is Alex Austen knocked down a 82 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 7: pass at one point and Mike Rabel really gave it 83 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 7: to him, like what are you doing? Like you know, 84 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 7: you don't make a play on the ball, and that's it, 85 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 7: you know. So I'm not telling you that the intercepts 86 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 7: were on purpose or anything else, but just don't read 87 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 7: too much into things that are going on with shorts 88 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 7: and helmets on an Ota or mini can't practice field 89 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 7: because there's a lot of different things that are at 90 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 7: work and you're not privy to most of them, right. 91 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: I just I think this is an install and there's 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: nothing more important to like the coaching staff, Josh McDaniels, 93 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel than teaching these players how to execute the playbook. 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: And they do nothing probably this off season, other than 95 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: trying to think, how can I teach my players this playbook? 96 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: And so I think some of the Paul shows were implying, like, no, 97 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: they just took the Brady playbook from twenty nineteen and 98 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: everything that it entailed and piled it on and here 99 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: it is. 100 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't think that's And one thing 101 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: if I with Josh McDaniel's that I'm telling Drake May 102 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: and all my offense run the play don't hold the ball, 103 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: just throw it where it's supposed to be. We need 104 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: to see what's working and what's not working. And so 105 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: you know, you're not supposed to add lib this time 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: of year, you know, don't freelance. It's just run it 107 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: the way we call it and we'll work out the 108 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: whether hill or whether it's there or not, and we'll 109 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: work it out afterwards. But don't you know, follow the 110 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: script yea, the timing and the timing of the script. 111 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 6: You know, that's right, I mean, yeah. 112 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 4: One of the good things about this time of year, though, 113 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: is that we get these like checkpoints and now we'll 114 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: see them next week, and then we'll see them a 115 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: week after that, and we hopefully will see it improving, 116 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 4: you know, and get betting better, better and better as 117 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: the summer goes along, but hopefully. I just think the 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: one thing that that is fair in my mind is 119 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: that they are installing a brand new offense for the 120 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 4: second year in a row for Drake May Like, he 121 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: did not run this offense last year, and so instead 122 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: of hitting the ground running in year two, we're not 123 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 4: back to square one because he played last year. So 124 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: like he's you know, we're still a little higher, you know, 125 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: a lot further along than what he would have been 126 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: as a rookie. But it is kind of like two 127 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: steps you know, back to take right. 128 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: The speed of the game shouldn't be new to him, right, 129 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: And that's the usual thing that you know, trips up 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: most of these guys. It's the speed of the game. 131 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 2: But listen, have I been, you know, victim of looking 132 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: at things too optimistically? Yes, and you know, maybe I 133 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: am right now, But right now I think it's way 134 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: too early to be worried. Now if we get into 135 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: training camp and this continues, okay. 136 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 7: But even last year it started at a level and 137 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 7: then it steadily rose in training camp because I don't 138 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 7: think he looked great at the start of training camp 139 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 7: last year, but there was a time Joel, the time, right, 140 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 7: you know, that it sort of clicked for him and 141 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 7: he seemed to get better and better as camp progressed, 142 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 7: to the point where we all felt like maybe he 143 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 7: had won the job. 144 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 145 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: I just think a lot of people fairly were hoping 146 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: that it was going to pick up right where it 147 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: left off and so that we didn't have this adjustment 148 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: period or you know, whatever you want to call it, 149 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: that it seems to be happening right now and instead 150 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: we're reinstalling a new offense and they're kind of starting 151 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: from a lower level than if you were just carrying 152 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: it over from last year. But the ceiling of what 153 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: they're able to do with McDaniels and with the pieces like, 154 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: that's what they're working towards, and it's so much higher 155 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: than what they had last year. So it's worth it. It's 156 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: going to hopefully be worth it in the long run. 157 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: But right now I understand why people are disappointed that well, 158 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: we're changing everything up on them and now we're starting over. 159 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: And like I get that. 160 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: It's such a headlines too, coming out of the four interceptions, 161 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: it's easy to say. 162 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 6: I would just say. 163 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: Though, honestly, like I just think this underscores where the 164 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: ceiling of this team lies hidden, and that is with 165 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: Drake May and how good is he going to be 166 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: this year? They've got a lot more talent on the team, 167 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: no question, but it all revolves around him. 168 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 6: If he takes that next step, then they'll be better. 169 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: And if he doesn't and he's sloppy, and you know, 170 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: then they're going to be probably mired middle blow the middle. 171 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 7: There'll be one of those teams that has some talent 172 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 7: but it's struggled to put it together because of a quarterback. 173 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 7: And you know, as you know, Mike, I do a 174 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 7: lot of you know, talking around the area. 175 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 6: And one of the questions, I'm off. 176 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 2: Libraries near you? 177 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 7: No, so I was at I was at a bank 178 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 7: with the other night and you know, I did I 179 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 7: have rubber chicken? 180 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 6: I was on the rubber chicken. It was actually a 181 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 6: pretty good steak. 182 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: Good spread. 183 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 6: Not lie, not gonna lie. It was a pretty good Steak, 184 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 6: Lombardo's and random A lot of people just so, what 185 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 6: do you think, what do you know? 186 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 7: You know, it seems like, you know, there's a lot 187 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 7: of excitement this and that, and I said, yeah, I 188 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 7: and my answer is pretty much the same to everybody. 189 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 7: They've improved on paper, the players, same stuff we talk 190 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 7: about here. The players they've brought in and my view, 191 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 7: are better than the players they're going to be replacing 192 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 7: in most cases. But not much of that is going 193 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 7: to matter if Drake made doesn't aggression. 194 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 6: Mike just said, that's true. 195 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it's important because on one hand, 196 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: you can't kill Drake for that. 197 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's part of learning. 198 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: And maybe we're taking a half step back to try 199 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: to take five steps forward, like Evan said. But at 200 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 3: the same time, you can't sweep under the rug. How 201 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: important Drake. 202 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 6: Mays progress is this year. 203 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: And you know, even if the other talent doesn't live 204 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: up to some of the expectations, Drake may could offset 205 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: some of that. You know, if the number one ride 206 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: receiver isn't you know, doesn't emerge, or if Stefan Diggs 207 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: isn't that pure prototypical number one, if Drake May's playing 208 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: really well, it'll matter last I mean, it's still obviously 209 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: will matter. But I just think everything revolves around Drake 210 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: May this year, for better or worse. 211 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: If you're if you're Vraybel, do you care about the 212 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 2: scrutiny that the media is giving your quarterback and are 213 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: you thinking about that as you plan your practices to 214 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: maybe set him up to get some early success so 215 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: that it alleviates some of that. I mean, maybe I'm 216 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: overthinking noble happening. Like it's the NFL. There's pressure, people 217 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: are gonna talk. 218 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, enough, you can hide him, right, like that's what 219 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: they did to Mac. 220 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 6: Jones, Like if you're onto something. 221 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 4: They hit him, you know, his rookie year, and eventually 222 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 4: it's it's gonna come out, whether he can play or not. 223 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 7: I don't think Mike really thinks it's necessarily a bad thing. 224 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: He should be. He should be scrutinized. 225 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 7: Now, I will say I didn't listen to as much, 226 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 7: like you know, I was joking around, but I have been. 227 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 7: It's a busy week for me, so I haven't heard 228 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 7: as much of my shows as I normally do. 229 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 6: I haven't I didn't hear a ton. 230 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 7: Of overreaction to the four picks, which I was kind 231 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 7: of expecting, not gonna lie. 232 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 6: I thought there'd be a ton of like, what's going on. 233 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 7: It's more like what you're talking about, Fred, Yeah, Like 234 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 7: the concern is for Drake May. This is four offensive 235 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 7: coordinators in four years. Two years at North Carolina, now 236 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 7: two years with the Patriots, four different offensive coordinators, and 237 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 7: I think that's a legit concern. I don't think the 238 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 7: concern is, oh my god, he threw four interceptions. They 239 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 7: blow it up in an Ota, and I haven't heard 240 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 7: a ton of concern for that. 241 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 6: But I'll bet Mike you might be right. I seem 242 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 6: to sounds like one of those things. Hey, that's life. 243 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 7: You know that Rabel, you know, sort of likes that, 244 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 7: that situation where you know you're sort of your feature 245 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 7: the fire a little bit. 246 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he knows, well, he's I mean, you said 247 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: they had some epic interactions between Felger and him in 248 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 3: the locker room, right, So no one knows better than 249 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel the kind of scrutiny that this team is 250 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: constantly under. 251 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, sounds good. Well there's that. We're still 252 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: we're still receiving comments from Forge and Foxborough. People are 253 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: loving it. I'm loving the access that we were granted, 254 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,359 Speaker 2: you know, by the team. It was unprecedented. 255 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 256 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: You know when I thought maybe at some point in 257 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: the show, maybe now, maybe later, you know, we kind 258 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: of break down what we liked in it and you 259 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: know what we gleaned from it and shows presence. 260 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, you see the people make 261 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 6: a fun of their hairstick. 262 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 3: I needed a little digital you. 263 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: Know, I'll get you some paste. 264 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: Quick, quick, funny story regarding this. You know, the football 265 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: video guys. We're walking through the tunnel and I saw 266 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 3: one of the construction people who were here working stop 267 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: one of them and was saying, I love Fores and Foxboro. 268 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: They're telling the football video guys that and they're like, no, 269 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: we didn't, we didn't make it, but but thanks well, you. 270 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: Know, and I overheard it, so I was like, oh, no, 271 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: that's cool. 272 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: But I've heard a lot of really good reactions from 273 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: Patriots fans. For me, I've always I always mentioned the 274 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: Belichick talking to his team in the nine documentaries. 275 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 6: My favorite part. 276 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: I love seeing coaches talk to their teams and the 277 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: methods that So for me, that first part with Bradil 278 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: talking to the team, that was my favorite part. 279 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: Well, when we saw that, you know, like you know, 280 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: we've had Belichick and and even Mayo last year and 281 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: we asked over the years, okay, can we you know, 282 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: do a team meeting, you know, especially that first one, 283 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: and always the answer was no, and these guys said, yeah, 284 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: let's do it. And so I've never really seen one before. 285 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: So for me, this is gold. I agree, and we're 286 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: sitting it was great. We're sitting there looking at this 287 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: and we're like, this has to be the lead. We 288 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: have to open this thing up with with that, you know, 289 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: because that's what gets you going. And that's how he 290 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: introduced himself to his team, and I think that's how 291 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: we introduced the We decided how we should introduce the 292 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: video to the people. 293 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: It's credit to Rabel and football because I know as 294 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: a coach that's a very important moment, like to what 295 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: you're setting the tone for your team. This is I 296 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: can understand completely why a team and a coach would 297 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: not want cameras in there. So I think it was 298 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: great that they allowed that access and I know fans 299 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: like me eat that up. 300 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 6: It's great stuff. 301 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: Do you think he like rehearses it the night before? 302 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 4: I think in the mirror maybe, Like I don't know, 303 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: but I was genuinely curious because it seemed like he yeah, 304 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: there's no stumbles, there was no like. It was like 305 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: very he knew exactly what he wanted to say. 306 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: He's probably heard it from other coaches a million times 307 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: and he's done it before. Yeah, but I'm sure he 308 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: thinks about what he's going to say and goes over it. 309 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah, I think he clearly had some 310 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 7: bullet pills that he was going off with. 311 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. 312 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 6: I really liked that part too. 313 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 7: And like Fred said, we've been you know, Fred and 314 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 7: I have been around for hundred years, so pretty much 315 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 7: all of this stuff we've done in some iteration or 316 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 7: another over the years. 317 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 6: I don't ever recall this. 318 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 7: If we've had cameras in a team meeting, which I 319 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 7: don't think we have, we've certainly never seen it. So 320 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 7: that was the part that really stood out to me. 321 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 7: Was Wow, So okay, so that's what it's like, that 322 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 7: first team meeting. You know, it's it's kind of like 323 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 7: when you were playing high school sports and your coach said, 324 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 7: you know, this is what you do, and if you're 325 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 7: not going to be at practice, you need to call it. 326 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 6: You know, it's the most like the most basic. 327 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: Paul, I still don't have your emergency and your user for. 328 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 6: Your compliance forms and all that stuff you have to 329 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 6: turn in. 330 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 331 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: The other part, to me, though, I thought was really 332 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: interesting was just seeing the interactions in the draft room 333 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: between Cowden, Wolf and Vrabel to see what that dynamic 334 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: is like and how it's developing. That that's been a 335 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: big talking point this offseason. That that was another part 336 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: that weighing trade offers, how does it and I mean 337 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: it seem like it was working pretty well. You know, 338 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: it's three GM type guys trying to figure what they 339 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: want to do. 340 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 7: So that was the other part in that part, you know, 341 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 7: in that intro, I would also say that some of 342 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 7: the b role that we played while Mike was talking 343 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 7: of like in the weight room and some of that 344 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 7: stuff was great, great footage, great stuff, stuff that we've 345 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 7: been able to shoot, but again not necessarily been able 346 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 7: to show well. 347 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: With Bill. We would never allowed in the weight room 348 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: very rarely, no, but we've been we had to be 349 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: like really tight on a guy. 350 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, and this that's why I said, 351 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 7: I thought this was really good footage in the background. 352 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 6: So yeah, my only you said, like what we liked, 353 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 6: but we didn't like. 354 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 7: My only critique basically would just be the length of 355 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 7: I've heard the different things and like even the meaning 356 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 7: I think was like over seven minutes, whereas I think 357 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 7: you kind of got an idea of where they were going. 358 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 6: But I mean, I think Mike is right. 359 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 7: I think if you're a Patriots fan and you're watching this, 360 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 7: this is like a real peak behind the kurt to 361 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 7: all these things that we've never really been able to 362 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 7: see and experience. 363 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 6: I thought it was great. 364 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny because like we've had, we 365 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: had so many planning sessions, you know, to do this, 366 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: and you know, how much footage do we have and 367 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: we're guessing, like, you know, how how long is this 368 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: thing going to be? You know, it was everything from 369 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: forty five minutes to two hours, you know, and you 370 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: get so it's the first time like we were able 371 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: to do this and you're making decisions like what should 372 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: we take out, what should we leave in? And we 373 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: kind of made the decision. It's like, leave most of 374 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: it in. It's the first time for us and the fans. 375 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: If we if we do this again next year, which 376 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: we probably will, we probably will edit it down a 377 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: little bit more because you're not going to have another 378 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: seven minutes of Mike Rabel in the first team meeting. Yeah, 379 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, you either cut that down or you do 380 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: something else. But for the first time, it was like 381 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: leave it in. 382 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, give the fans what we have, sure, you know, 383 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 6: And yeah. 384 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: It was seventy two minute I think runtime, which is 385 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: long in today's day and age for people's attention spans. 386 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: But I think that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. More in 387 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: this case, I think more was better because it's the 388 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: first time. 389 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 3: I think it comes at the right time too, because, 390 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: let's face the Patriots fans a little bit of a 391 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: crisis of confidence right now in the team and the 392 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: operation and how things have been going in the last 393 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: couple of years. And now to show a glimpse of 394 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: a head coach who's been a head coach before and 395 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 3: knows what he wants to do and comes prepared, I 396 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: think it's reassuring and bring some of that confidence back 397 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: that all right, this team knows what they're trying to do. 398 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: They brought in the kind of players that all have 399 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 3: a type, and it just it makes sense. I keep 400 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: hearing that on everything Paul shows, our stupid podcast that 401 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: we listen to like everybody. Just it just makes sense 402 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: what they've done. Now we'll it all come together and work. 403 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: It's been on Drake May don't know. It's a chemistry 404 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: experiment as always, but I think it feels like the 405 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: people who know football and are here and have a 406 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: system in place that. 407 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: That should do. 408 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 6: You think it needed a narrator, I personally, you do, 409 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 6: I do, But. 410 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 9: I think it could have helped really yeah, okay transitions, 411 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 9: yeah yeah, and it didn't have to be it didn't 412 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 9: have to be hard knock style or the narrator's talking constantly. 413 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 9: But like it, like Paul said, you know some of 414 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 9: the transitions or. 415 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: I to me, it's either you've got a narrator or 416 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: you don't. Like if you just use it like in 417 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: here and there, then it's like, well why didn't you 418 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: use it over here? So I don't know. I thought 419 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: it was okay without a narrator. I get, I get 420 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: what the transitions could have been a little bit more 421 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: like in the beginning, we heard like, oh, what's you 422 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: know you're use when you're using the symbolism of building 423 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: a foundation, And it would have been nice to tell 424 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: people what that actually was, because we know what it was. 425 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: It's the new training facility that's opening next to April. 426 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: But you know, we've had so far half a million 427 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: people worldwide that have watched this thing on YouTube alone 428 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: and they don't know what that is. So like, it's 429 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: great to have symbolism, but in this case, it really 430 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: was something. And I don't know, maybe we should have 431 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: used at least a graphic to say, if you're. 432 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 7: Weren't going to do a narrator, then yeah, maybe a 433 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 7: little bit more graphics just so let people know. But 434 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 7: this is all nitpicking, And first of all, it's the 435 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 7: first time we've done something of this scope, right, and 436 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 7: I think all internally, yeah, yeah, yeah, and this was 437 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 7: I think I'd be stunned if we get much negativity 438 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 7: from any fans that watch this, you know, in terms 439 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 7: of like whelmingly but what a bunch of crap content, 440 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 7: Like I can't imagine that anybody that that's a Patriots 441 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 7: fan watches this and says that's no good. 442 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 6: Now, could it be better? Always? 443 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 7: I mean there's no such thing as a perfect you know, 444 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 7: everyone has their taste and perfect piece of content. 445 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, my personal favorite part was all the scouting meetings obviously, 446 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: and like hearing them talk about prospects. And when we 447 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: went to the Senior Bowl, I had a conversation with 448 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: no Socks and I remember him saying, like, if we 449 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: can just get them talking about one guy that we 450 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 4: actually draft, like that's. 451 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: All we need multiple and and we. 452 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 4: I spent like an hour with No Socks and our 453 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: and Bradley and they're going over different prospects and like 454 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: who could be the one guy? And to hear one 455 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: of our scouts I think it might have been Tucker 456 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: say Kyle Williams's name. I was like, that's so cool, 457 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: Like that's that was so that was one hundred percent authentic. 458 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: That wasn't like we faked it, and like, you know, 459 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 4: six months later we put that in like that was 460 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: one hundred percent real. In the moment he said that 461 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: Kyle Williams was the best receiver at the Senior Bowl 462 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: and then we ended up drafting him, you know, five 463 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 4: months later, Like that's that was really cool. And all 464 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: those guys deserve a ton of credit for what goes 465 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 4: into this whole draft process, and it was cool to 466 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: give them some shine. You know, some of our scouts 467 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: Matt Evans and j T. Hill and Tucker and all 468 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 4: those guys that, uh do a really good job. And 469 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: they also listened to us f YI, so they they 470 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: they're fans of the show as well, but they it's 471 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: of course, of course, but yeah, they they do a 472 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 4: great job, and you know, it's cool to see that 473 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 4: their work kind of behind the scenes a little bit, 474 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: and like that drive from the hotel to the stadium, 475 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 4: Like I've made that same drive now two years in 476 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: a row, and like they that was all authentic and real, 477 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: which I thought was cool. We didn't like just film it, 478 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: you know a couple of weeks ago and say, oh, 479 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: say Kyle Williams, you know, like that was real? 480 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: No, it was, and we got lucky. 481 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, we got lucky. 482 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you did. 483 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 6: You did you think Kyle Webs was the best receiver. 484 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 4: I thought it was between him and Jalen Knowl from 485 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: Iowa State. I thought both those guys had really good weeks. 486 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: You know. 487 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: We joked about with Kyle Williams. They go in alphabetical order, 488 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: so Williams is obviously last, so he was the last 489 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: one to rep in every single drill, every single one 490 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 4: on one. So I feel like he kind of got 491 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: like lost a little bit because of that. You know, 492 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 4: some people had moved their eyes on to something different 493 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: or something. But what's cool about how the way they 494 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: do it is they have so many scouts that each 495 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: scout gets a position, so it's like somebody's focus is 496 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: on wide receiver. So all they're doing all day is 497 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: watching the wide receivers, whereas you know, we have to 498 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 4: watch everything, you know, try to watch everything. So it 499 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 4: was it was cool, but he definitely had a good 500 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl week and then we had the footage to 501 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: kind of like prove it, you know that he had 502 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 4: a good week. And we also had cam talking about 503 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 4: Will Campbell. I think that was at the combine, right that, uh, 504 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 4: that footage of him talking about Will Campbell. 505 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: Will Campbell, we kind of knew, right. 506 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 7: Well, why can't I think of the Florida State defensive 507 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 7: as a farmer? 508 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: Joshua? Yeah, yeah, that multiple. 509 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 4: They were sitting the three of them, Elliott, Wolf, Rabel 510 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: and Cowden We're sitting like at the fifty yard line 511 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: inside the stadium down there and mobile the three of 512 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: them together, and uh. And I think I said at 513 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: one point like, oh, it'd be cool to be in 514 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: on that conversation. And someone said to me, we we 515 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: are on that conversation and that those are the things 516 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: that they were obviously talking about, and that that was 517 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 4: really cool. I mean, that's that's what we're all doing. 518 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 4: We're just sitting there watching and talking about players and. 519 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 7: Behind the scenes scouting stuff. I agree with Evan was 520 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 7: really good. There was a couple of little individual things 521 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 7: that pop up from time to time that I thought 522 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 7: were great, and one of them that really stood out 523 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 7: to me was having you know, when we went to 524 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 7: the to the the NFL free agency, you know, not 525 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 7: the college stuff, the NFL free agent additions, and then 526 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 7: having Jamar Chase talk about Carlton Davis being the toughest 527 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 7: corner and he went against you faced him a couple 528 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 7: of times. 529 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 6: That's fantastic stuff. 530 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 7: And you know, to have that included in that piece, 531 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 7: I thought Adams to. 532 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: Get Carlton Davis's reaction, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that was really good. 533 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: I hadn't seen that no happened. 534 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 3: If you were a Patriots fan that like the last 535 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: game of the season, they won, and you just turn 536 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: the TV off and then you wake up now and 537 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: you flip that on like there's an hour and whatever, 538 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: like catch. 539 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: You right up. 540 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 6: You know everything that happened. You were right there for 541 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 6: every single moment. 542 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: So I think the only way you could disappoint fans 543 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 3: is if you over promise an under the burden said 544 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: we've got all kinds of access and then you didn't. 545 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: Really, but this delivered all the pressures on, right, Yeah, 546 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: now the pressures on. Everyone expects another one and to 547 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: be as good, if not better. 548 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. The other part that I really liked was the 549 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs like kind of reveal, because it was building 550 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: up to that where it was like, well, yeah, they 551 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 4: got all these pieces on defense, but they kind of 552 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: need that that star receiver, and then it's just Diggs. 553 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: It's like that, you know, kind of gives you goosebumps. 554 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: You're like there you go, like that's what that's what 555 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 4: we were looking for. So that was really cool as well. 556 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 4: But for me, the scouting stuff was gold, Like I 557 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: wish that I could see the raw footage right, you don't. 558 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 6: Just cut out the middle man and just do it. 559 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 6: What are you doing, scouts. 560 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: That's what you want to do. 561 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 4: No, you're gonna get me that. 562 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 6: Fred's the kingmaker. You could get this done well. 563 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: Listen. 564 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: I would like that we talk about this is probably 565 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: Evan's pick, like we're analyzing, like. 566 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: Right, oh, here we go again. 567 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 7: This guy break news ever again. 568 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 4: You might have to bring up with Bart fired immediately. 569 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 6: It's not gonna work anymore. I've got too many things 570 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 6: that I know. 571 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: Hamps just says, big no on the narrator. I don't 572 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: want to be told what I'm seeing. Yeah, that's that's 573 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: not exactly what they do if you do it right. 574 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not what the narrator to may. 575 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: I've had a couple of times with projects that I've 576 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: worked on, like do you need a narrator? 577 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 6: You don't, and I just some things needed. 578 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: I just don't want it to ever be a crutch where, 579 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 3: you know, instead of being able to show, you have 580 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: to tell you other than a. 581 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: Graphic here and that I don't think this needed it. 582 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: I didn't. I you know, like now I'm close to it. 583 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: I watched it a million times, you know, I never thought, oh, 584 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: we need a narrator. 585 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: I never thought that it's hard too from your position, 586 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: because you you try to think how to phrase this, 587 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: like you know so much so you don't know like 588 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: what's in there? What is and so like something like 589 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: the training facility. Like for me, when I was watching initially, 590 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's the training I just knew. 591 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: I didn't. 592 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 6: It didn't really cur to me that people outside would 593 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 6: be like, I have no idea say. 594 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 7: I stepped back and I was talking to Fred about 595 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 7: this a little bit, and I just said, I pretended 596 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 7: I'm I don't work here right when I watched it, 597 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 7: I'm just and I The first thing I wrote in 598 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 7: my notes was what is this? 599 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 6: With a question mark. 600 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 7: I didn't know that this was the introductory team meeting, 601 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 7: and I didn't know that the construction was actual construction 602 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 7: taking place in Foxborough because I'm trying to pretend I'm 603 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 7: not here every day, knowing that that building is going 604 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 7: up right behind where I park every day, you know 605 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 7: what I mean? So that's and it didn't Friend's right. 606 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 7: It doesn't have to be a narrator. It could be graphics. 607 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: Michelle who loves it when I call her Shalata. 608 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 6: Oh, good to hear from you, Michelle. 609 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: She thought it was amazing. In caps, right around the 610 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: eighteen minute mark, there's a sequence where Rabel is coaching 611 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: at the Texans where he tells Brown, who's coming off 612 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: the field, Brown, to go over to his teammate and 613 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: tell him that he did a great job. That split 614 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: second got me so high. Let's f and go go. 615 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 6: You can't get tired, guys, you can't taut. 616 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 7: Fantastic footage the Houston stuff on the sideline when Mike 617 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 7: was there, Like really, really, I'm glad that Michelle brought 618 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 7: that up. 619 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 4: How did we get that footage? 620 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: Like that's the NFL film NFL they produced that that's 621 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: been out there. 622 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: Got it? 623 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it reminded me of I heard Gino Arima 624 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: ari Arima uh miked up at a practice and he 625 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: was telling his teams like the best players don't get tired. 626 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: They just don't get tired, right, And I was like, yeah, 627 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: that kind of resonates with me, Like the best guys 628 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: they always the big moments. 629 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 6: Those are the guys that still have the juice to go. 630 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 6: You can't tap out. It's so funny. 631 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: We don't have the guys. But then he goes and 632 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: makes it play. 633 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 6: It's pretty cool. 634 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah he did. 635 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched it with Jess, which was cool because, 636 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: like the Paul's point, like, you know, we know everything right, 637 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: like we're really close to it, so it's always cool 638 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 4: to get like her reactions. And she she loved it. 639 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 4: I think the only thing that she said, you know, 640 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 4: she consumes all of our our content, and so some 641 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 4: of the stuff like she had already seen from like 642 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 4: you know, Digs his first day in Campbell's first day 643 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: and things like that. But other than that, you know, 644 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: she's sat there for the entire seventy two minutes and 645 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 4: watched it with me. 646 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: So and again that's the thing you have to remember 647 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: that we see everything. Yea, so we're jaded, but most 648 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: of the people who watch this they hadn't seen all 649 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: that stuff. 650 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she knew it. Maybe she knew what the 651 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: practice facility was just because I've talked about it. And 652 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 4: it's good we've talked about it. 653 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 7: But we're jaded, Mike. But even I didn't want rain 654 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 7: on anyone's parade. I enjoyed it. 655 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 6: Plus for friends with weather, it was it's more a 656 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 6: weather thing. 657 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 7: No, it's it's it's good stuff. And I mean, I'm 658 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 7: kind of a sucker for the documentaries. I like documentaries 659 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 7: in general, me too, but I mean, I like what 660 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 7: we did, and I hope we can do more stuff 661 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 7: like it. 662 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: I feel like the hard part, Fred is now that 663 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: there's a lot of access and footage behind the scenes, 664 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: and you're putting out a lot of stuff. It's how 665 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: to balance what we've already released with what's going to 666 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: be new. 667 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 6: Footage, and you know, just the balance. 668 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: Of not you know, well we put out holding things back, 669 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: you know. 670 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: Holding some things back, but all right, yes we did 671 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: put this out on social already, but we're gonna put it, 672 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: you know, like the balancing act of all the footage. 673 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 4: And that'd be like what my one nitpick is, like, 674 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: how do It's kind of exactly what just said, like, 675 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: how do you balance you know, we've already put this 676 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: in Will Campbell's first day. 677 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you an example. Yeah, just on Tuesday, 678 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: when I was having my moment, you were telling me 679 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: about Morgan Moses speaking from the the you know, I 680 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately all the media was there, so everyone 681 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: saw that. So we were having a meeting yesterday. Go 682 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: we're filming every practice right in these OTAs and they're like, yeah, 683 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: I go, Okay, let's hope we can get some other 684 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: stuff that people haven't seen that they allow us to use. 685 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, like on these closed days if they're out there longer, 686 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: maybe like going and doing stuff like that. 687 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 7: I know by the way that Mike and I were 688 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 7: walking off the field together and I before I left, 689 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 7: when you guys are getting ready to do the show 690 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 7: on Tuesday, I said, you saw that Will Campbell Morgan 691 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 7: Moses thing. 692 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: Right, that's I go, that's it. That's that's the thing, 693 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: that's goal. Will you'll be pat proud and Paul that 694 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: my two headlines. Fred was sitting in here all alone 695 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: at this desk doing it, and I said my two 696 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: takeaways were Drake Ray through four interceptions and Will Campbell 697 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: and Morgan Moses having drinks Kindred spirits, Kindred Spirits. Everybody 698 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: was like you could feel the buzz, like because interviews 699 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: are going on at the podiums after practice, but no 700 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: one was on. 701 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: I mean, we were all here and when he came 702 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: in and we interviewed him, the same thing. We're all 703 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: thinking the same thing. This guy is a leader. This 704 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: guy he's a pied piper in a good way. I mean, 705 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: you know when Randy Moss was here, he was a 706 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: pied piper, but you had to worry where he was 707 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: leading people. This guy's going to put him on the 708 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: right track. And it's so great to see that he's 709 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: already in that role. Yeah, like it took him no 710 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: time to be in that role. 711 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 4: I feel like he's going to be a captain. Like 712 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 4: I really feel like he's on that track right now. 713 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 4: And it was it was cool to see. And it's 714 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 4: one of those things too from a media perspective, like 715 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 4: we're not really least supposed to take pictures of the 716 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 4: field in that window like after practice, but so many 717 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: people were going up to pr being like can we 718 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: we got to take pictures of this like this, Yeah, 719 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 4: so that's why, Yeah, everybody got there, okay, But there 720 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: was also you know, over to the other side, just 721 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 4: Kyle Williams and Ft and Chisholm were catching balls on 722 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 4: the judge machine right after practice for maybe ten fifteen minutes, 723 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 4: and Kyle Williams was catching them one handed, like just 724 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 4: like on purpose, like he was trying to he was 725 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 4: practicing that, and so he was catching one handed passes 726 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: with his right hand, just over and over and over again. 727 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 4: And uh, it just it seems like there's a bunch 728 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: of different guys that were doing that in the back. 729 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 4: I couldn't see who it was, but a couple of 730 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: the pass rushers were still doing stuff, you know, in 731 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: the back of the field, and like there was there 732 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 4: was good work ethic there, like you could feel, you know, 733 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 4: some urgency. 734 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, get the extra work. Funny. 735 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 6: I after seeing that picture, I was inspired. 736 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: To go back and look at I was just curious, 737 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 3: curious look at Morgan Mo's's scouting report. 738 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 6: I was just I wanted to because we spent so 739 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 6: much time talking about Will Campbell. 740 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: First of all, is like I didn't realize he had 741 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: thirty five and three eighth inch arms, so I know 742 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: a lot. Another thing that some people talked about were 743 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: Will Campbell looked, you know, a little small out there. 744 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 6: His shoulders looked a little bit. 745 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: His shoulders are narrow. 746 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 6: But it was kno, going to lot. It's also in comparison, yeah, no, 747 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 6: I know. 748 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 7: But it's like when you see him on the field 749 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 7: next to everybody, like it stands out. 750 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think Fred's right. 751 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 7: I think that's why his arms are shorter, you know, 752 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 7: because I think he has a narrower base. 753 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: It's exacerbated though by like Marcus Bryant, who you know, 754 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: is like a statue of a man, and then Morgan Moses, 755 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: who is also just has the ideal length. But point 756 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: I was trying to make was reading his scouting report. 757 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: It's nothing like, Oh, what a phenomenal leader. 758 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: This guy. 759 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: It's like takes plays off like you know, if he can, 760 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: if he can get in shape and pull it together, 761 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: he'll be good. And there's just a reminder to me 762 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: that there's there's gems out there, there's guys you know 763 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: that that can develop. 764 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 6: And he arrives here as a leader. 765 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: And I don't want to call him a savior, but 766 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: I think some people are like God, it's just some stability, 767 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: you know, I think. And that to me, like looking 768 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: in the Jets sign him last year, tough free agent deal, 769 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 3: and it's like, man, I like that have been a 770 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: move to make last year and actually tackle. 771 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: Zach and Connecticut. I agree with Fred about having no narrator. 772 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: I think it would have been worse having someone tell 773 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: us what we're seeing. I do think it did drag 774 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: on the transition a little bit, but just a nitpick. Also, 775 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: will the Washington Joint practices be available to the public 776 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: if they will, Yeah, go to those guys. 777 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 3: If you are looking to go to a preseason game 778 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: or do something this summer of the Patriots, come here 779 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: for the Commanders Joint practice. 780 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 4: That's a great one talent. 781 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: You're not gonna have to pay a bunch of money, 782 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: and you know it just come free, fun for the family, 783 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: and you get to watch great football, situational stuff and 784 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: the talent on I guess Terry McLaurin, though I guess 785 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: he's holding out that I heard that yesterday. 786 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: Good them. 787 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 6: You get it all into playing that can happened to 788 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 6: other teams were, but we're not playing them. 789 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: So Robert writes in after watching the feature, I wanted 790 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 2: to suit up and hit the field, unfortunately, and fit 791 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: fifty six, and I'd snapped in half if I tackled anyone. 792 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: Great production, But as Paul referred to, I was wondering 793 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 2: what structure was being built. While it did finally dawn 794 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: on me that it was the new training center. It 795 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: might have been helpful to have some text on the 796 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: screen describing what it was. I vote no on a narrator. 797 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm coming around on the narrator thing. 798 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: Well, like maybe it was just text, I would. 799 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 6: Just good and to jump on the thing. 800 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: But I was just gonna say, like, I can see 801 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: a way you could have done it where you're talking 802 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: about what's the final product going to look like? And 803 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: then you know, Mike Rabel may be saying what we 804 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 3: want the final product, and then compare that to what 805 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: the final product at the training center, Like there's got 806 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: to be some kind of. 807 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 6: Metaphor that you could kind of use in there without 808 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 6: having a yeah, And I had that like the whole thing. 809 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 7: I had like a quick sentence, you know, much like 810 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 7: you know. 811 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 6: But I got to do with the Leev Schreiber voice. 812 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 7: I'm a little like curious as to why so many 813 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 7: people are anti narrative, right, not because it's counted to 814 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Because yeah, when I watched like The 815 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 7: Football Lives and you know, those different documents, you know, 816 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 7: I find the narrator to be a big part of my. 817 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have to watch the experience. Yeah, you 818 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: have to build it that way, and absolutely like, as 819 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, our lead editor, Nick McCain, has 820 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: an amazing voice. He could do like he could absolutely 821 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: do it himself. If you is the voice of God, 822 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: if we needed a narrator, we've got one. 823 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 6: I met him, he's got it. 824 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: I shook his hand as I met him. He said hello, 825 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: and I said, have you done voiceover work? 826 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: He did it for the sixers. He read like Christmas 827 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 4: books and stuff like that for thinking for kids. 828 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 2: So we've got them. We'll figure out how to get 829 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: his voice in there. 830 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: He did a voiceover for something I don't remember what internally, 831 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 3: and it like it was him, but it was even 832 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 3: more polished, Like I didn't even realize when he actually 833 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: tried how good it could sound. I mean it was like, yeah, 834 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 3: I was telling him. I'm like, that's the best job. 835 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: To me in Hollywood, the best jobs are the voiceover people. 836 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: They show up, they dress in sweatpants, they'd sit in 837 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: front of a microphone for four hours, and then they 838 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: go home. 839 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 6: Now nobody knows who they are. They make a ton 840 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 6: of money. That to me is the dream gig. 841 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 7: So I was surprised, Like, you know, there's two or 842 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 7: three people that said, you know, I don't want to. 843 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 7: The last thing I want is a narrator telling me 844 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 7: what I'm watching. Oh so I'd rather not know what 845 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 7: I'm watching. 846 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: That's not what they do, that's not what the. 847 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 4: Well I was like, Obviously we're gonna get compared to 848 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 4: Hard Knocks, like for you know, the football thing. But 849 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 4: to me, this is more like Behind the Bee than 850 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 4: it is Hard Knocks. And Behind the Bee is fantastic too. 851 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 4: But they have Dennis Leary, who's a Boston guy, as 852 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 4: a narrator, and that was all I think what we 853 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 4: were kind of thinking of. But this is this is 854 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 4: on track to be exactly like you're Behind the Bees. 855 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 6: Maybe in a shorter show. 856 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, behind the bea helps move things along a little more, 857 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: and you don't Yeah you don't get twenty three minutes 858 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 3: in the thirty minute. 859 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: That might be that might be wide Justin says the 860 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: second Morgan moses pancakes a guy. All we're going to 861 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: hear is father Fred saying, oh Morgan, yeah you got 862 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 2: that right, you got that right. I'll be watching the 863 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 2: old line. 864 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 6: So he turns it to Kram. 865 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: You got that right, I do love. 866 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 6: They'll give him last rites on the field that'll be different. 867 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: There you go. Now everybody's watching the So did you workshop? 868 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 6: I heard you know, did you just workshop? 869 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 2: This whole thing worked out? I have a long commute pole. 870 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 4: So that's what in case you didn't know it was. 871 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 2: It was good. 872 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 7: I didn't know if that was something that someone wrote in. 873 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 7: I mean that was that was just part of just 874 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 7: count obviously. 875 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 6: I mean I love that. And he was a damn 876 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 6: good one. 877 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 7: That was my my favorite company was a damn good one. 878 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 7: And that and he owed Chicago. He wanted to get 879 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 7: back to Chicago. 880 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: And you know Claire, hello everyone, Aliver in Hell. She 881 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: said she has an idea for Chicago, Pope. The conclusion 882 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: is it turns out he's actually a long term undercover 883 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: cup to crack major crimes at the very top of 884 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: the church hierarchy. And Father Fred actually a father and 885 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: could finally bed the hot nun. 886 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 6: Oh that is a good twist that he's not. 887 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: Actually that was get get to know her in a 888 00:37:51,920 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 2: biblical sense. Man, we're so sackrindgious. 889 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 6: To turn it to an Irish Yeah. Wow, you know 890 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 6: Father Fred Megan with Grandma. 891 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yesh Dana, Virginia and Michigan on podcasts at Patriots 892 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 2: dot Com. We all know that Fred is great and impressions, 893 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: but I didn't know he could do an impression of 894 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: Meg Ryan. On Tuesday Show, when Deuce and Evan were 895 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: describing that Morgan Moses was holding court with Campbell, the 896 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: other offensive lineman, Fred started to sound like that scene 897 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: in the coffee shop when Harry met Sally. I'll have 898 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 2: what Fred's having. I'm having Morgan. 899 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 3: Yes, I was surprised, but it's good reason. I mean, 900 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 3: I think we're all a little beaten down from the 901 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: tackle struggles of the last five years, and we're all 902 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 3: excited to hopefully put that to rest and maybe get 903 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 3: that as a position of stability, like. 904 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: The offensive line now, Morgan, all right, eight five five 905 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: pats five hundred is the a Sticke and Hut line. 906 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 2: We're having fun here talking Forge and Foxborg, We're talking 907 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: O two were talking just about anything. Let's go to 908 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: Todd in Gardner. 909 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 10: Hey, Todd, Hey guys, how are you doing? 910 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 4: Keeps changing? 911 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 10: It's been a great show. 912 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: A little bit of I. 913 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 10: Don't want I'm just a little bit against the whole 914 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 10: thing that this team is going to do. Basically, as 915 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 10: Mac progresses, because I think when we first got Brady, 916 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 10: Brady was allowed to progress at his own pace and 917 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 10: it won't speed because the team around him could give 918 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 10: him that comfort level of being in there and you know, 919 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 10: being able to make mistakes. I think that our guys 920 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 10: gonna but not I'm just entire sorry, guys, it's been 921 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 10: doing immigration stuff. 922 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 11: My brain is bride. 923 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 10: But Drake May is gonna evolve based on the opportunities 924 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 10: given and with this defense and what we've got around him, 925 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 10: you know, I think he'll be able to make the mistakes, 926 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 10: do the stuff that he needs to learn, because I 927 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 10: don't think it's all going to be on him. And 928 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 10: I just you know, I've heard this a couple of times. 929 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 10: It's the whole season's all based on his progression. I 930 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 10: think there's some part to that, but I think it's 931 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 10: too much focused just on that. What do you guys think? 932 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: All right? 933 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: Thanks? Now listen. I know everyone has to play their part, 934 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: but it does rest a lot on his progression. And 935 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: I disagree a little bit with what Todd said about 936 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: Brady the day he stepped on the field. It was 937 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 2: hammered into do not turn the ball over. I mean, 938 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 2: don't turn the don't make mistakes. It wasn't go ahead 939 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: and make mistakes and we'll we'll, we'll give you a 940 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: long landing, you know, don't turn the ball over. 941 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 7: He was largely responsible for the turnaround. I mean, it's 942 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 7: right again, there is no bigger Drew Bledsoe fan than me. 943 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 7: When Drew played, they were five and thirteen. When Brady 944 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 7: came in, it was fourteen and three. Like it happened immediately. 945 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 7: And yes, the team was good. The team around Brady 946 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 7: was good. But Brady's what Fred just said, Brady's inability 947 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 7: to turn the ball over. I mean, what did you 948 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 7: go like four games before even threw a pick? 949 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: Right? 950 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 6: You know? Then he threw four and one quarter in Denver. 951 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 7: But you know that was largely the reason why that 952 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 7: team was successful was because the mistakes that Drew was 953 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 7: making were eliminated when Brady went in. 954 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 955 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And just like more recently, Washington doesn't do what 956 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 4: they did last year without Jayden Daniels being basically almost 957 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 4: an MVP candidate as a rookie. Now, nobody's expecting Drake 958 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 4: to be an MVP candidate. But the point is is 959 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 4: that that, unfortunately is the pressure of being the quarterback 960 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 4: like that it's on his shoulders. 961 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 6: And I would just say it's not. 962 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 7: I don't think people are saying that it's all reliant 963 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 7: on Drake May's progression, but the ceiling, but the ceiling, 964 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 7: but Drake made doesn't progress, then they're going to be 965 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 7: average at best. Right And I don't care how good 966 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 7: the team is, they'll be average at best because you 967 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 7: need the quarterback to get you to another level. And 968 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 7: I also don't think as much as I'm really happy 969 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 7: and excited we just talked about forging Fox Bowl and 970 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 7: all the things that they added, whether it be in 971 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 7: free agency or the draft, you ain't get that much 972 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 7: better that it's not going to matter if the quarterback 973 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 7: isn't isn't making a progression. You know, it's not like 974 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 7: they're just stacked across the board. We've seen the Jets 975 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 7: and Brad Johnson and the Buccaneers, like the Jets have 976 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 7: had some teams the last year or two that have 977 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 7: been pretty good in a lot of areas, but the 978 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 7: quarterback is holding it back and they go five and 979 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 7: eleven or five or whatever, five and twelve. 980 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: I guess. 981 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 7: So you can be really good, but if your quarterback 982 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 7: play isn't at least average, You're going to be sort 983 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 7: of ye fighting, fighting an uphill battle. 984 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: Randy's in Providence. What's up, Randy? Randy? 985 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 4: Randy? 986 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 2: Come on, it hasn't been that long. All right, you're gone? Hello, 987 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 2: what's going on? Turn up your Internet? 988 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 11: Sorry, well that I hit a mute button on accident. 989 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 11: I had a couple questions for you guys at the 990 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 11: end of the season last season, maybe if the off 991 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 11: season was starting, there's been a lot of talk about 992 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 11: shortage of kind of support staff. 993 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 10: Uh, the staff. 994 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 12: Overall just being a lot smaller in New England than 995 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 12: it is in other places, maybe with the analytics department, 996 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 12: but other areas also. 997 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 10: And I didn't know. 998 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 12: If you guys knew if that staff was also being 999 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 12: built out, Like obviously we hear all the coaching changes 1000 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 12: and news and stuff like that, but you guys know 1001 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 12: if that is being addressed. 1002 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 11: And then did you guys see the top twenty five 1003 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 11: under twenty five lists put out by PFF. 1004 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 2: Yes, top under twenty five, yeah. 1005 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 11: Top twenty five. 1006 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 3: Being yeah that someone's very upset on the by week 1007 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 3: one okay. 1008 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 12: But no Gonzales and no May and you got the 1009 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 12: prized by that. 1010 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,479 Speaker 2: And then I dismissed the list. 1011 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 4: I don't Drake may not be on there. He doesn't 1012 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 4: belong on right, Christian Gonzales belongs on the list. 1013 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 2: Christian Gonzales, I think you can make a strong argument. 1014 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, one hundred percent agreed. 1015 00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1016 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 11: And then last question for you guys. Someone I think 1017 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 11: it was Alex Maybe had mentioned that cool Strange. He 1018 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 11: thought he had bulked up a little bit, gotten a 1019 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 11: little bigger, maybe in response to the needs of Josh 1020 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 11: McDaniels on the offensive line. Did you guys notice that? 1021 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 11: And then outside of the pictures, did you guys see 1022 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 11: Marvin Harrison Junior put on like twenty or twenty five 1023 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 11: pounds and the guy looks like a defensive end. 1024 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 6: Now, I saw the video. I saw the videos I saw. 1025 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 2: I wonder how we did that? 1026 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 6: Is that skinless chicken? 1027 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, twenty five it's funny say that, Randy Is. 1028 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 3: I saw that video and I didn't. I didn't see 1029 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 3: hear it. It just came like the video and I 1030 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: was like, geez, he looks big. 1031 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 6: So David Boston, like former Cardinals receiver. 1032 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked a little bit about cold Strange yesterday 1033 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 4: on Catch twenty two, and I just thought his upper 1034 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 4: body maybe looked a little bit bigger. But I'm not 1035 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 4: saying that he's like, all of a sudden three hundred 1036 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 4: and forty pounds, but like I thought it like beer 1037 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 4: he drank general a little bigger. I also thought Gonzo 1038 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 4: looked jacked, so I would. 1039 00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 6: I'm glad you brought him out. 1040 00:44:59,480 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: Randy. 1041 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 7: Two guys that I thought looked noticeably bigger, one of 1042 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 7: them really positively and one of them not so positively. 1043 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 6: And Gonzalez is the one I thought, I. 1044 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 7: Absolutely agree with you, you know, not not to go 1045 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 7: all Mike do so on you. But I was like, wow, 1046 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 7: look at the size of his arms. I thought he 1047 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 7: looked like I thought he had put on some some 1048 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 7: bulk up top. 1049 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 6: And Michael went, who I thought looked heavy? 1050 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: Me too. Gene is a retired producer slash director out 1051 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: of Ottawa, Canada. O uh, and he says, I think 1052 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 2: it's a he I'm taking a leak there, j E A. 1053 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 6: N maybe Jean Jean Jean francois. 1054 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Regarding the use of a narrator in your documentary, 1055 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 2: I've always much preferred having the on camera subject tell 1056 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 2: the story and using minimally on screen graphics to guide 1057 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 2: the viewer. Using a narrator narrator will take away the 1058 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 2: cinema verite feel of your documentary. It will become the 1059 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 2: voice of big Brother telling you what they want you 1060 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 2: to know. It shifts the perspective of the message you're 1061 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 2: trying to deliver to your audience. Cinema verite is more believable, 1062 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 2: and the audience feels less manipulated. I love it. 1063 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 6: I'm back in film school. 1064 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 7: Can I ask you, as as someone who's completely ignorant 1065 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 7: to this stuff, what is the definition of cinema verite? 1066 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 2: So? 1067 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 6: I think, well, verite, truth, just realism, I would say. 1068 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 2: And I so you don't feel manip So it's your 1069 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 2: interpretation and not the narrator. 1070 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 7: So why is the narrator? First of all, it's not 1071 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 7: the narrator's interpretation. It's a script. 1072 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 2: Well I know, but he's telling you. 1073 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 7: Well okay, it's not. But it's not like telling the listener. 1074 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 7: I mean telling the viewer that the construction that's going 1075 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 7: on behind you is actually the new training facility. 1076 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 6: Is not like leading the viewer where you wanted to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1077 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 6: it's telling the facts. 1078 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 7: Well, she's talking in general, but that's all I want 1079 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 7: the narrator to do. I don't want the narrator to 1080 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 7: say this team is a lot better than you think 1081 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 7: it is. That's not what narrators do when documentaries. 1082 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 3: I think Jean Jean is maybe just saying show, don't tell. 1083 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 3: That's just an an always thing that you try to do. Yeah, 1084 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 3: and if you get to a point where you're like, 1085 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 3: I gotta tell, But I would say, like for myself, 1086 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 3: if I was an editor trying to figure that out, 1087 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 3: I would be like, well, how can I tell that 1088 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 3: this is what this construction project is without having to 1089 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 3: have someone come in and be like that's the construction product. 1090 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 4: Well, so I feel like for this one, it did 1091 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 4: like the narrator maybe wasn't necessary, Maybe just graphics over 1092 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 4: some of the things that Paul has talked about. Yeah, 1093 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 4: but that's why I do wonder like when we go 1094 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 4: into the next one, when it's like more player and 1095 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 4: coach driven, you know, you kind of set it up 1096 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 4: like the Bruins are preparing for the you. 1097 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 2: Know, but I kind of feel now that we've gone 1098 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 2: the route of no narrator, you got to stick to. 1099 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 7: And if you don't want the narrator, like my my 1100 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 7: preference would be the narrator. But I can totally say, okay, 1101 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 7: you know the people have spoken. Everybody is you know, 1102 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 7: finds the net. I just don't understand why a narrator 1103 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 7: giving you the facts is not true to life, but 1104 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 7: the Scouts telling you their version of facts. It's yeah, 1105 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 7: isn't like the Scouts and opinion of Kyle Williams. The 1106 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 7: Scout's opinion, Like, how do I know that's true? But 1107 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 7: I'm taking it as as the word because that's what 1108 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 7: they're telling me. 1109 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 3: Well, maybe as a filmmaker too, you want people to 1110 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 3: take it for themselves and you know, not give them 1111 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 3: try not to point arrows at things and just let 1112 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 3: them be able to experience it themselves without you know, 1113 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 3: letting their viewing experience be their viewing experience, without saying 1114 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 3: I want to make sure that this is how you're 1115 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 3: viewing it the whole time. 1116 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 6: I mean, there's a way to do it both. I love 1117 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 6: there's some documentaries. 1118 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 7: Like my point is, this is how the patriots, the 1119 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five Patriots are being constructed in this way, 1120 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 7: and the story is being told by the patriots, Like, 1121 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 7: why is that true to life? That's how the patriots 1122 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 7: are doing it. That's the patriots thoughts, Like there's sort 1123 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 7: of a like a I don't want to say an opinion, 1124 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 7: but there's sort of a viewpoint in every documentary. 1125 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like blatant. This is the fact. It's 1126 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 2: documentaries are different than just pure art. I remember having this. 1127 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 2: That's why, you know, an artist presents their work to 1128 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 2: the world without explanation. Let the world interpret it. Don't 1129 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 2: say and here's what I you know, and that's what 1130 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 2: you know. A lot of artists don't. They don't give 1131 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 2: you what they want to do. They let you interpret it. 1132 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 2: Like I can't have leaneries are different. 1133 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 7: I can't have Leev Schreiber tell me what the building is, 1134 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 7: but I can have what was the scout's name that 1135 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 7: said about Tucker Addington? Tell me that Kyle Williams was 1136 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 7: the best receiver. That's a long snapper, isn't he? 1137 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, you named the long snap, right. 1138 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 7: So you know, And I like, I apologize. I don't 1139 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 7: know all the scouts by name. 1140 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 6: I don't. 1141 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 2: We don't ever. 1142 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 6: This is like the first time we've ever really gotten 1143 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 6: a city. 1144 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 7: Like we've never been allowed to talk to them. 1145 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 4: Tucker Ingram. 1146 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 7: Tucker is Ingram, Okay, so he can say that Kyle 1147 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 7: Williams was the best receiver in the Senior Bowl and 1148 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 7: no one has any objection. But if Leof Schreiber says 1149 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 7: that building that you that we keep showing you is 1150 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 7: actually the new training facility, we object to that because 1151 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 7: we're leading the viewer in a way like, well, I 1152 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 7: mean like to me, but I think. 1153 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 2: It's about what you're using. 1154 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 6: A specific like the. 1155 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 2: Narrator would not be used for that. It would be 1156 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 2: used for like others. 1157 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 7: Like I had told you, like the Voice of God 1158 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 7: comes in and says, much like the the new training 1159 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 7: facility that's under construction behind your Lette Stadium, Mike Rabel 1160 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 7: in the twenty twenty five Patriots that are a work 1161 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 7: in progress or something like that. 1162 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,240 Speaker 6: I totally get what you're saying, Paul, And I think says. 1163 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 7: It's not like I think the Patriots are going to 1164 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 7: go twelve and five this year, right, And I just. 1165 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 3: Think John has a preference of how they would like 1166 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 3: to tell things. But ultimately it's the creative choice of 1167 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 3: how you want to tell the story and how you 1168 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 3: can best tell the story. So there's no one way 1169 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 3: to do the documentaries, Like no, documentaries have to have 1170 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 3: a door. 1171 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 7: And that's why I would fully service take and say, hey, 1172 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 7: that's just my preference and I'm not like a specific 1173 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 7: fact that. 1174 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 6: You want to make sure it gets across. 1175 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 3: You don't want to insert a narrator in the whole 1176 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 3: documentary just because there's a certain fact that you can't 1177 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 3: think of a creative way to show what it is 1178 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 3: and you know what the metaphor is. 1179 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 6: So but I mean there were documentaries I love with narrators. 1180 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 3: There are ones that I love where it's just interviews 1181 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 3: and it unfolds slowly and you you know. 1182 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 6: Kind of take it for what it's worth. So I mean, 1183 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 6: that's you're totally right. 1184 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 3: It's just a preference, and it's a preference to the 1185 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 3: director and the producer, like a truth and cinema thing. 1186 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 2: No, yeah, but like no, you take Ken Burns for example, 1187 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 2: you know Baseball, which I thought was a great documentary 1188 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 2: that could not live without it. Now, writer, right, you know, 1189 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,240 Speaker 2: you had to have a narrator. 1190 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 6: I love those things with like they're reading the Civil 1191 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 6: War letters. 1192 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 3: But no, that's I mean that's like I said, I've 1193 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 3: done projects before where you're wondering, like can I do 1194 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 3: like my thesis film, like what do I do new 1195 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 3: narrator or not? 1196 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 6: And this is what I'll have to do. If I how, 1197 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 6: I'll have to explain it. 1198 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 2: If not so. 1199 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,399 Speaker 3: But I think probably what John's preference is is they 1200 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 3: like that style. Yeah, just realism unfolding for you. I 1201 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 3: expect that, and that's their their their thing. But I 1202 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 3: don't think Hard Knocks would work. And certainly behind the 1203 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 3: B it's too hard and too you know, in twenty 1204 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 3: two minutes to tell a whole story of everything that's 1205 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 3: going on without Dennis Leary. 1206 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 2: So just what fits? I just felt here. He was 1207 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 2: one of my professors in college, Dennis Leary Emerson comedy writer. 1208 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 3: Fail, so he could be in Father Fred. I think 1209 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 3: we could probably reach out to you. 1210 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 2: At the time he was trying to quit smoking. He 1211 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 2: would literally get on the desk like a bird and 1212 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 2: teach the class perched on a desk. 1213 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 7: Remember like the MTB just had a teacher in high 1214 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 7: school that smoked like a fiend and did exactly the 1215 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 7: same thing. He would sit on his desk criss cross applesauce, 1216 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 7: and when the principal would walk by the hall, he 1217 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 7: would flick the cigarettes right out the window front of 1218 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 7: the desk. 1219 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 3: Well remember that, Like, was it MTV or something that 1220 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 3: I think you hear me and I'm coming in. It's 1221 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 3: just Dennis Leary sucking cigarettes down like it's a possible. 1222 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 2: He was trying to quit that. He was he was 1223 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 2: on something else he could He was like, I think 1224 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 2: he might be the best. 1225 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 3: He could be the bad guy, he could be the 1226 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 3: antagonist in Father Fred. I mean, that's a high power actor. 1227 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 3: He's got a little edge to him, you know, so 1228 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,439 Speaker 3: probably I think he's an Irish Catholic. Anyway, he's ready 1229 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 3: to operate in. 1230 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, now with to Boston. That's not from Chicago. 1231 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 2: Donnie Walburn has another Boston top show coming out, something 1232 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:13,240 Speaker 2: Boston Blue. Yeah, origin uh me and freds noo. What's up? Speed? 1233 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 10: What's up? 1234 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 13: Listening to you guys talk about cinema verite and the 1235 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,879 Speaker 13: art of narration and whatnot. I'm just like, man, so 1236 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 13: happy Eric's not here. 1237 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 2: We have the conversation. You all know nothing. That's your imagine. 1238 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,439 Speaker 7: Can you imagine if Eric just heard me, like sound 1239 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 7: like a moron like about talking about what by the way, 1240 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 7: I know what the words meant. 1241 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 6: I wanted to know what the application to read. 1242 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 3: The story to you, so just me like he doesn't 1243 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 3: get it to him. 1244 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 13: Then again, Eric as a narrator. 1245 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the possibility. Sure I can see it. 1246 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely awful, awful. 1247 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 7: I've often pondered construction that takes place in this world. 1248 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 14: He never have ye today, no football. 1249 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 13: So with May you're hoping he follows the like generally 1250 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 13: the Josh Allen pattern, you're overcoming some early accuracy or 1251 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 13: like physical issues in the passing game. But but he's 1252 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 13: being asked to do that at the same time when 1253 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 13: you got Josh McDaniels, you know, relatively complicated offense coming in, 1254 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 13: and you know Josh Allen had Brian Dable for years 1255 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 13: from the start. And I'm very happy that Josh McDaniels 1256 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 13: is coaching Drake, But it seems like it's already challenging 1257 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 13: enough to try and do the sort of Josh Allen 1258 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 13: thing where you more or less fix your accuracy, and 1259 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,479 Speaker 13: now you're asking Drake to do something like that while 1260 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 13: onboarding what pretty complicated playbook. 1261 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 2: It's the same offense yeah. See, honestly, I don't know 1262 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 2: what they're telling Drake to do, you know, like, are 1263 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 2: they unloading all this stuff and making it too complex 1264 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 2: right now? 1265 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 4: I don't know that well, But it's the same offense, 1266 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 4: Brian Dable. 1267 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 2: How are they presenting it? Like at what? Like sure, 1268 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 2: how much of the playbook are they into at this point? 1269 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 4: But Josh Allen was running the same offense in Buffalo 1270 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 4: under stable that that the Patriots are running now. So, 1271 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 4: I mean Brady's talked about it that he he knows 1272 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 4: Josh Allen's calls because it's the same calls that. 1273 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 2: He would use. 1274 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 6: Because that's digs about it, you can asks about it. 1275 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 13: Yeah, So you don't think that this is more of 1276 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 13: a challenge to Drake now with the change of the 1277 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 13: offensive coordinator. 1278 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 4: I don't know, no, I I yeah, I mean I 1279 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 4: made that point earlier, But I'm just making the point 1280 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 4: that if we're comparing to Josh Allen, they're they're running now, 1281 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 4: they're in the same system, like did this stable system 1282 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 4: and McDaniel's offense are the same offense. So if oh, okay, yeah, thanks. 1283 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 3: B it's a challenge, but it's a challenge to Drake 1284 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 3: like you have to, you have to acknowledge it. 1285 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,839 Speaker 2: And it's a lot on him this year, and it's 1286 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 2: it's a it's a tough. 1287 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 6: Challenge, no question. 1288 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 3: No. 1289 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 2: When Toronto says Einstein's the definition of genius is taking 1290 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 2: the complex and making it simple. I worry that McDaniels 1291 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 2: is making the simple, run fast, throw hard complex for Drake. 1292 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 2: See I don't. 1293 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 3: I just everything that he said again, And this goes 1294 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 3: back to just plopping the twenty nineteen playbook and being 1295 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 3: like good luck, Like I just I think Josh understands 1296 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 3: that he has to teach Drake this bit by bit 1297 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 3: and learning little piece at a time, and even though 1298 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 3: it's a little bumpy along the way, he's not gonna 1299 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are teachers. This is what they 1300 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,280 Speaker 3: spend all their time. How can I get my guys 1301 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 3: to learn the playbook? 1302 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 2: Coaching is teaching. 1303 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 7: It's huge, Like that is everything to them. I think 1304 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 7: that's in question. I think the playbook is not going 1305 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 7: to be twenty nineteen, Like it's not going to be 1306 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 7: Fred's used to use this all the time, like Tom 1307 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 7: Brady is like advanced level calculus. Like it's not going 1308 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 7: to start where Tom Brady ended, But the very basics 1309 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 7: of the Josh Midniel lawfense requires a certain aptitude on 1310 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 7: the part of the quarterback, and it's not you know, 1311 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 7: this goes back to it's the air hot system that 1312 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,320 Speaker 7: Charlie Weiss brought in and all that stuff, and Brady had. 1313 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 6: A very easy transition to it. He took to it 1314 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 6: very easily. Not every quarterback will. I don't have any idea, well, 1315 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 6: how Drake may will. 1316 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 7: I'm not talking about the level of sophistication that the 1317 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 7: offense wound up, but the base part of it, I 1318 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 7: think is a little bit more complicated than most offenses, 1319 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 7: and I don't know how that's gonna happ I wondered. 1320 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 4: By putting on the quarterback everything pre snapped, Well, Evan. 1321 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 2: Do you know and at you and see if any 1322 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: of his years that he was making the calls as 1323 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,439 Speaker 2: opposed to. 1324 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 4: His last year, they put more on his plate in 1325 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 4: terms of making protection calls and things like that. Was 1326 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 4: it one hundred percent? I don't know the answer to that, 1327 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 4: but he was. His coaches told me that they were 1328 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 4: making a lot of the call. He was making a 1329 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 4: lot of the calls and doing a lot of that 1330 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. They ran much more. His first year 1331 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 4: as a starter under Phil Longo was a college style 1332 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 4: air raid like it was a true college offense. And 1333 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 4: when they brought in Longo's replacement, I'm blanking on his 1334 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 4: name right now. When they brought him in, it became 1335 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 4: more pro style, So it became more of what you 1336 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 4: run in the NFL, and the quarterback had more responsibility 1337 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 4: at the well, Clyde Christensen was an assistant on the staff. Yeah, 1338 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 4: and so they did more of that kind of stuff 1339 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 4: at North Carolina, and then last year, obviously it was 1340 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 4: the center that was making all the calls in Alex 1341 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 4: Van Peltz offense. So that's what I worry about a 1342 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 4: little bit. I'm not saying it's like I'm panicked about it, 1343 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 4: but it's just right now, that's something that I'm watching. 1344 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 4: I'm watching for because I know Drake May is a 1345 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 4: fantastic thrower of the football. I know he's a great athlete. 1346 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 4: I know he's got all the physical tools in the 1347 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 4: world to be a franchise quarterback. I don't know if 1348 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 4: he's a director. I don't know if he's one of 1349 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 4: those guys that is comfortable getting to the line of scrimmage, 1350 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 4: sniffing things out, moving protection, you know, reconfiguring formations, getting 1351 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 4: guys lined up in the right places is the easiest 1352 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 4: way to say it. I don't know if he's that 1353 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 4: like I don't like Brady was that, Peyton Manning was that. 1354 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's his superpower. His superpower might 1355 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 4: just be the raw tools, whereas with Brady his superpower 1356 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 4: was his brain. 1357 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 2: And so we'll find out. We'll see. 1358 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 3: I think you put that out great. I mean, that's 1359 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 3: everything you said. I totally agree with. And I just 1360 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 3: I just wonder if people feel like, well, Drake may 1361 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 3: could be an elite quarterback, but not with this offense, 1362 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 3: not with too much on him, you know, is. 1363 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 7: That I go your point, Yeah, if he can't think 1364 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 7: to a level that you. 1365 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 2: Need to, he can't be an elite quarterback. 1366 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 7: I don't think that you can just be so physically 1367 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 7: gifted that it doesn't matter if you're reading anything or 1368 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 7: making these kinds of pre snap decisions that Evan's talking about. 1369 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 7: You don't have to be Tom Brady, but you can't 1370 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 7: not have an ability to do it. And I've seen 1371 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 7: no indications that that Drake may doesn't have the ability 1372 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 7: to do it. We saw him as the year went 1373 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 7: on last year. How many times is he directing people? 1374 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 6: You know, guy in wrong places? 1375 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:06,439 Speaker 2: Your guy? 1376 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 7: Which one, Kendrick Bourne, My bad, bad, I got that. 1377 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 10: You know? 1378 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 7: How many times was he changing you know, you're there, 1379 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 7: You're supposed to be over there in the slot. 1380 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 6: You're supposed to be out wide? 1381 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 7: You know, he has an aptitude for the position. 1382 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 2: And I'm not. 1383 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 4: Worried about post snap like, I think he reads coverage well, 1384 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 4: I think he sees rotation well, like all that kind 1385 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 4: of stuff. I'm not concerned about it, just the pre 1386 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 4: snaps that we just haven't seen him do it at 1387 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 4: this level because he wasn't necessarily doing it to this 1388 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 4: level last year. 1389 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 2: So it's just an unknown. Yeah, David's out in New Mexico. 1390 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 2: Loved the show. He says, with all the talk about 1391 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 2: McDaniel's offense impacting may the receivers and the running backs, 1392 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 2: how does the new offense change how the offensive line blocks? 1393 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 2: And to Paul Saucer, gravy, gravy, it's not it's not 1394 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 2: gravy anyway. How does it affect the offensive line? 1395 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if we want to if you're talking 1396 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 4: about scheme and the actual blocks are being asked to 1397 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 4: execute versus like the verbiage of the offense, those are, 1398 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 4: you know, two different things. But from a verbiage perspective, 1399 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 4: I've heard that this offense is actually easier in a 1400 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 4: lot of ways from a protection standpoint than other offenses 1401 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 4: because they use numbers, and the numbers coincide with how 1402 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 4: many blockers you have in the protection, so you do 1403 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 4: fifty sixty seventies protections, five sixty seven man protects. So 1404 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 4: that way there when they say, you know, they'll read 1405 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 4: out the play and then they'll have a number to 1406 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 4: the protection that's giving the protection scheme, it tells you 1407 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 4: within the number how many guys are in the protection, 1408 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 4: and it kind of puts it into a family of protection. 1409 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 4: So I've heard that that is a strength of this system, 1410 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 4: that it works that way. And the only thing really 1411 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 4: from a protection standpoint that is a little challenging is 1412 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 4: is blitz pick up from a running back because they're 1413 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 4: dual reading, so most of the time they are reading 1414 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 4: off of two guys and you have to make a 1415 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 4: decision post snap based off of who's coming and who's 1416 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 4: dropping and things like. 1417 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 7: That, so quick little aside totally off topic of what 1418 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 7: but we did no socks And I sat down with 1419 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 7: Craig James today to record one of our latest installment 1420 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 7: of Pats from the Past. And one of the things 1421 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 7: he talked about, so Patriots fans might not remember, but 1422 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 7: Craig James came from SMU under Ron Meyer, you know, 1423 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 7: and he was part of the Pony Express backfield. But 1424 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 7: that was the introduction of Dante Scarnekia to the Patriots. 1425 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 7: When Ron Meyer came from SMU to become head coach 1426 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 7: of the Patriots, he took along with him Dante Scarnekia 1427 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 7: and one of the things that he talked about, ev 1428 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 7: was how confusing Craig James talked about how confusing past 1429 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 7: protection was for the running backs. They had a lot 1430 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 7: of if thens yep was the way he explained it, 1431 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 7: and Dante completely streamlined it all and made it so simple. 1432 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 7: That made it so simple, and that was you know, 1433 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 7: that was one of the things that was one of 1434 01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 7: the takeaways from our talk. 1435 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 2: We'll have that probably that's great soon, but. 1436 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just interesting to I mean, most of our 1437 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 7: Patch from the Past are more more recent and part 1438 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 7: of the Dynasty years. This was a little bit of 1439 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 7: a wayback machine. 1440 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 6: It was great. He was a great Tell. 1441 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 3: Mike, you're working on something, well, I've been on in 1442 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty five, like crazy. I mean, I'm at least 1443 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 3: gonna writ an article for the Game Day magazine I 1444 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 3: and we'll see if I do anything else with it. 1445 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 3: But talked to Craig James today, who was my favorite 1446 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 3: player growing up. So that was pretty cool to finally 1447 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 3: meet him. I picked thirty two in high school and 1448 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,439 Speaker 3: I told you guys, but just for the listeners. Cool 1449 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 3: moment after you guys did the interview, I was walking 1450 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 3: him out. The Patriots were walking out for practice and 1451 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 3: Travon Henderson came wearing thirty two and Craig James just 1452 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 3: went up to It was like. 1453 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 2: Hey man, I wore number thirty two Craig James in 1454 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 2: the eighties. 1455 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 6: And Trevon Henderson was like, really cool. 1456 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 2: I'm so mad at myself or not. 1457 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 6: This would be great. Great on Twitter, you got wait. 1458 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 3: I know I would say it happened so fast, but 1459 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 3: it's just really cool moment night cool. 1460 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 2: Did we body camp right? Yes? 1461 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 6: Well did you have your body camera? 1462 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 12: Yeah? 1463 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 3: Right? No, I didn't, but said he said hello to 1464 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 3: Rabel as well, and I talked to Raymond Clayborne outstanding 1465 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 3: cornerback as well. 1466 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 6: So yeah, it's just fun for me watching going back 1467 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 6: to those games. 1468 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 3: I watched a lot of the TV copy and it's 1469 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,440 Speaker 3: crazy because there's no first down marker. 1470 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 6: They barely show the clock. 1471 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 3: They barely show the scoreboard, so half the time you're 1472 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 3: watching it, like I don't. 1473 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Know how much time. 1474 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 7: Know what they had back then when you watch the games, 1475 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 7: you had what they used to call the ten minute ticker, 1476 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 7: uh huh, and every ten minutes they will put the 1477 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 7: scores up from out of town. 1478 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to wait, wait ten minutes. 1479 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 4: We'll find out whenever they show, like you know, you 1480 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,919 Speaker 4: watch like the nineteen eighty six NBA Finals or something 1481 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 4: like that, they don't leave the score back. I know 1482 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 4: it's so and it will literally be like one oh three, 1483 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 4: one oh two with five seconds to go in the game, 1484 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 4: like the biggest play in the season. 1485 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 7: You know, put a little square with the clock, but 1486 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 7: you wouldn't get the score. 1487 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait, scoreboard, get about the twenty four 1488 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 2: second clock? 1489 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no idea, you know, I mean you know 1490 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 7: who brought in the bug? Right the score Fox? 1491 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 2: Really? 1492 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 6: Uh? In whatever? 1493 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,479 Speaker 2: Ninety Yeah? 1494 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 7: Was that right ninety It was when they turned to 1495 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 7: do before maybe when they started doing games. They they're 1496 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 7: the ones that brought the kind of school. 1497 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 2: Yes, unbelievable. 1498 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 3: It kind of ties into our narrator contrays even know 1499 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 3: what you need someone always telling you what the score is. 1500 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 2: Now, we watched the games. We seem to survive so much. 1501 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 3: You just don't realize watching games. I mean we watch 1502 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 3: a lot of games live now, but how on the 1503 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 3: president the scoreboard and the first down marker and you 1504 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,440 Speaker 3: just you take it for granted that you always can 1505 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 3: just call. 1506 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 6: It when you don't see it all of a sudden, 1507 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 6: like wait, what's the score? 1508 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 2: You lose Tyler and Ludlow. I have no worries about 1509 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 2: McDaniel's coaching up May as he was the coordinator when 1510 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 2: Jimmy g had to start for Brady, and we know 1511 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 2: that he was very effective. I would expect that McDaniels 1512 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 2: has learned from the stakes and will be surprised if 1513 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,959 Speaker 2: he makes the playbook too complicated for May. 1514 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think we're getting away from the 1515 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 3: playbook being too complicated for him, and it's more executing 1516 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 3: the scheme. 1517 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 6: If that makes sense. 1518 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 7: I think that's where we're get kind of the most basic, 1519 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 7: easiest play If it's hard for the quarterback to run it, 1520 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 7: it's not about a complicated playbook. 1521 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 6: It's about running the offense the way he wants it run. 1522 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 4: I'm also not concerned about it the way the email 1523 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 4: or phrased it. My whole thing is, I just I 1524 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 4: wish that they were starting from a higher a higher 1525 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 4: starting point right like now, instead of starting hitting the 1526 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 4: ground running in OTAs and training camp and stuff like that. 1527 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 4: They're still learning. 1528 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 2: So you wish McDaniels is here last, Yeah, Like. 1529 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 4: So now does it stand the reason that it's really 1530 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 4: going to take two years to get it fully operational? 1531 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 4: Right like? That's and I know that's that's way down 1532 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 4: the line. 1533 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I'm death stars. 1534 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 7: Why does it always have to get back to a 1535 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 7: wiki level with you? 1536 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 2: I'm a geek? Is this thing operation? 1537 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 6: But you? 1538 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 7: But you, you know, the flip side of that would 1539 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 7: be again with my shows is sort of contending. So 1540 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 7: I agree that the best best case scenario would have 1541 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 7: been to have what Evan said and maybe this be. 1542 01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 6: Year two of him learning this offense. 1543 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 7: But if not, my shows would say, like that's why 1544 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 7: they would prefer not to have McDaniels, but maybe another 1545 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 7: like McVeigh or Shanahan West Coast kind of a guy 1546 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 7: to come in. And even though it's not the same 1547 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 7: as Alex van Pelt, it's kind of in that family, 1548 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 7: less new to learn. That's why the people it's not 1549 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 7: because Josh McDaniels is incompetent, it's offensive coordinator. To the contrary, 1550 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 7: he's been a great offensive coordinator. But people just wonder 1551 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 7: if there's so much new, is that stunting the development? 1552 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 2: Jack and Abba says, Einstein actually said, actually, everything should 1553 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 2: be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. The 1554 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 2: point is to simplify, but not oversimplify. Some difficult endeavors 1555 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 2: like quarterbacking a pro football team can be simplified only 1556 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:46,479 Speaker 2: so much. 1557 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 4: I don't want to simplify, like I think we're losing 1558 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 4: the plot a little bit. Like all I'm saying is 1559 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 4: is that if it takes like last year, where it 1560 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 4: was two weeks into training camp before it really you 1561 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,160 Speaker 4: saw the light bulb kind of go on for ra 1562 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,479 Speaker 4: May and click. Well, that's two weeks that they could 1563 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 4: have been adding other things in and getting really humming. 1564 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 4: If that's the path that we take this time because 1565 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 4: of the changes in coaching, then you're not behind the 1566 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,320 Speaker 4: eight ball, but you're just you're not as ahead as 1567 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 4: I would like it to be. But that doesn't mean 1568 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 4: that I want Josh McDaniels to take his offense and 1569 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 4: strip it down to pee wee football like it, just 1570 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 4: it might be a little bit of a slower burn 1571 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 4: than what you would have liked. 1572 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 6: Well, what would you guys say? This is the question 1573 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 6: I'm asking myself. 1574 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 3: What would you guys say, are the benefits if Drake 1575 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 3: May is able to get this offense down, understand how 1576 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 3: to execute it. What are the benefits of this offense 1577 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 3: getting to that point versus maybe last year's offense. 1578 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 6: If he got to master's Oh, it. 1579 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,720 Speaker 2: Doesn't have put more stress on the defense. I mean 1580 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 2: that type of offense. 1581 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 4: It's very multiple, so you can you know, the one 1582 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 4: thing that he'll have is answers to tests where like, 1583 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 4: you're never going to get caught with your pants down 1584 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 4: if you run this offense correctly, you know you're never 1585 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 4: going to be in a situation where there's a blitz 1586 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 4: coming and you have no answer to it. 1587 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 2: There's an answer to everything the defense is doing right, you. 1588 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 4: Know, right, So, like you know, if they're bringing you know, pressure, 1589 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 4: either there's a built in hot or there's a way 1590 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 4: to move the protection or whatever the case may be, 1591 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 4: that has answers. Whereas at times last year and even 1592 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 4: two years ago, three years ago, like they're snapping the 1593 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 4: ball into as Brady would like to say, bad defenses 1594 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 4: right the plays. 1595 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 2: In order for it to work, you have to recognize. Yeah, 1596 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 2: if you don't recognize correctly, then your answer is wrong. 1597 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 4: You be recognize if we're going to be wrong and 1598 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 4: be wrong together. 1599 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 3: But like if you were coaching a team, wouldn't this 1600 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 3: be ideal for you that you would want that to be? 1601 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's hard to do, but like 1602 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 3: in a perfect situation, you want your quarterback to go 1603 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 3: out there and be able to do that. 1604 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1605 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 4: So, and like the same thing with the receivers, Like 1606 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 4: there's always a lot of discussion about this offense and 1607 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 4: how it goes to receivers, but like to me, it's 1608 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,639 Speaker 4: common sense with the receivers, like if their options are 1609 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 4: adjusted or option d outed based off of the coverage, 1610 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 4: like instead of running into the defender, we're going to 1611 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 4: run away from the defender, right like it, So it 1612 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 4: should more or less be common sense. But like, you know, okay, 1613 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 4: like you know, they used to talk a lot about 1614 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,720 Speaker 4: you know, Moss would like run a post right, and 1615 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 4: he'd be like, well, I'm running the post right into 1616 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 4: the post safety, So why am I doing that? 1617 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 2: Right? 1618 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 4: And so then they started to build Okay, you can 1619 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 4: now break to the corner if you see the post right. 1620 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 4: And so then he was like, all right, well do 1621 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 4: that or like we're going to run a deep over, 1622 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 4: so you're going to cross the face of the post 1623 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 4: safety instead of going right into the post safety. Like 1624 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 4: all that stuff, to me is is kind of common sense. 1625 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 4: Like why would you run a route directly into somebody 1626 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,759 Speaker 4: when you could run the route into an open space. 1627 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 6: It's just hard to execute when you're on the field 1628 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 6: and guys would kill you. 1629 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,719 Speaker 2: And it's timing and all that stuff too. Yeah, Sean 1630 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 2: and Petaluma, California, guys, he says Lan Larison, dude was 1631 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 2: an absolute blow out here at you see Davis, he 1632 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 2: can run through the tackles pass pro catch out of 1633 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 2: a backfield. I'm a proud you see Davis football season 1634 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 2: ticket holder, kind of like Paul and Northeastern. 1635 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, I was thinking the same thing and. 1636 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 2: Watching him up close the past couple of years. Maybe 1637 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 2: think of yes, sexy rexy Burkehead. 1638 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a little Rex Burkhead vibe to him. 1639 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 2: By the way, did I see James Devlin at practiced? 1640 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 2: You did? You did? An NFL p A, Yeah you did. 1641 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,679 Speaker 6: Paul Pasqualoni also former Stuse head. 1642 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 2: Coach right and Yukon? Right? Wasn't he coach at Yukon? 1643 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 6: He may have. 1644 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 2: I think he did. I think you might. 1645 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 6: He may have. 1646 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 4: No way to find out those two There was a 1647 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 4: way Rex Burkehead or Land Larris and Rex Burkhead. And 1648 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 4: now he's wearing thirty four just like Rex Burkhead and 1649 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 4: then Afton Chisholm. I feel like it's just like the 1650 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 4: slot version of that. 1651 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 7: So I'm going to ask you which you know, which 1652 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 7: which one of those two guys, because I just pick 1653 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,639 Speaker 7: one because I can't do both of them. Why can't 1654 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 7: we take I'm not doing either guy, But I've been 1655 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 7: inundated with questions about those two players. 1656 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 6: One of them has been called Caffrey. 1657 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,439 Speaker 4: He was that was his nickname in college is the 1658 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:05,440 Speaker 4: D T. McCaffrey. 1659 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 6: So, uh, you know these two guys, I'm going to 1660 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 6: leave it to you guys. 1661 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 7: But from now until the end of training camp, you 1662 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,440 Speaker 7: guys can have all the fun you want. 1663 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 4: Why they can't keep. 1664 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 6: All saying talk about that was all just talk about 1665 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 6: I would talk about. I would talk about one of them. 1666 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 7: I'm not talking about the one on the surface. I 1667 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 7: would say the running back would have a better shot. 1668 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 4: Just the numbers. 1669 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 7: Because of the numbers, now Chishom's a little redundant to 1670 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 7: the wide receiver part. To me, that would be interesting 1671 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 7: as if they decide some of the guys that we've 1672 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,519 Speaker 7: quote unquote said well you should be here. You know, 1673 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,720 Speaker 7: some someone isn't here, like even like a mac Hollins, 1674 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 7: you know, like a free you know, it's not unprecedented 1675 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 7: that a free agent. We had a member Mike and 1676 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,800 Speaker 7: I had a member of the media. I'm not going 1677 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 7: to say who it was. Said, that's rare, he said, 1678 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,080 Speaker 7: book it surprise Mac Collins tour the other day. 1679 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 6: A negative member of the media. 1680 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 7: Yes, So I'm not saying that I don't think that 1681 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,759 Speaker 7: that will happen. I think that they like Matt Collins, 1682 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 7: but if something unforeseen like that happens, because this kid 1683 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 7: is really pushing, you know, on the on the practice field. 1684 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, by all means hard to tell. 1685 01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 3: I just I mean he's quick and definitely stood out 1686 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 3: for his quickness. But I just I feel like it's 1687 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 3: kind of Pop Douglas. And I mean maybe Pop Douglass 1688 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:23,839 Speaker 3: got hurt and you felt like you needed a slot. 1689 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,439 Speaker 6: I just like gambling on size a little more. It's 1690 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 6: it's hard. It's really hard to know. 1691 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 3: It makes you wonder or makes you understand why maybe 1692 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,320 Speaker 3: Edelman Welker took them a little while to find their 1693 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 3: stride because those guys they. 1694 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 6: Don't physically they're not physically imposing. 1695 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 3: You really have to see it consistently to believe that 1696 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 3: they can do it. 1697 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 4: There's just such a translatable skill set which ism into 1698 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,599 Speaker 4: the McDaniels offense because we've seen it so many times before. 1699 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,760 Speaker 4: And I think the one thing he has maybe on 1700 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 4: pop Pop's definitely a better athlete, you know, definitely more 1701 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 4: explosive and and things like that, but he's got that 1702 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 4: feel of like how to get opens especially again zone coverage, 1703 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 4: like he's got that that sort of knack for you know, 1704 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 4: where are the soft spots and where to settle and 1705 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 4: how to make himself open and things like that over 1706 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 4: the middle of the field, where I think Pop Douglas 1707 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,679 Speaker 4: is really good against man coverage, but he still doesn't 1708 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 4: have that in sixth sense with the quarterback. I think 1709 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 4: Chishom might have that. 1710 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1711 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,800 Speaker 3: Interesting, that's a really interesting point someone. I hadn't really 1712 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 3: considered it, but I think you're really right, and that 1713 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,960 Speaker 3: could be a place where one guy maybe just has 1714 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 3: a little better feel for the game then. 1715 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1716 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 2: Peter and Ottawa. Uh, Peter from Ottawa in Florida. I've 1717 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 2: been meaning to send this email for a while. I 1718 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 2: used to think that Fred was the person who was 1719 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 2: essential to the podcast, but over the years I've since 1720 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 2: discovered it's Paul. When he isn't there. There was absolutely 1721 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 2: no pushback. If we can get Evan more jaded, he 1722 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,640 Speaker 2: has some potential, but without Paul and his pushback, the 1723 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 2: show has become dull. In other words, we need the 1724 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 2: negative Nancy push down negative. 1725 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 6: You said, pushka, No, that's that's all right, all right. 1726 01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 6: I think Fred agreed to disagree with. 1727 01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 2: I think you all make me. 1728 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 4: Think sometimes about it. I'm actually right about things, thank you. 1729 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,919 Speaker 6: Fred makes me think in all seriousness. 1730 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 7: He makes me think of things in way different ways 1731 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 7: than I think of him. Yeah, And sometimes I make 1732 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 7: fun of him for it and we end up arguing 1733 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,600 Speaker 7: with one of our semantics arguments. And sometimes I'm like, 1734 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,840 Speaker 7: I never thought of it that way, and I'm better 1735 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 7: for it. But you always think of him in different ways, 1736 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:22,240 Speaker 7: don't you think? 1737 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes because when you're an idiot. 1738 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 6: But you know I didn't say that, No, I said it. 1739 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 6: I was gonna say, how did you interpret what I 1740 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,920 Speaker 6: just said? Is an idiot? 1741 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 2: I think of things a different way sometimes because I'm 1742 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 2: an odd. 1743 01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 7: But but it's like when you used to used to 1744 01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 7: have the joke about the press conferences. Sometimes I see 1745 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,439 Speaker 7: I go between the line right and get it, get 1746 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 7: the and you do you you look at things differently. 1747 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,799 Speaker 2: Sometimes It's funny. 1748 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 3: I was thinking about it because you I didn't know 1749 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:53,639 Speaker 3: you during the Dynasty when they were winning Super Bowls. 1750 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:54,240 Speaker 2: Oh he still does. 1751 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 3: So I've only been on a show with you when 1752 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:57,759 Speaker 3: they've kind of been bad. 1753 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,880 Speaker 6: So you've been right way too much about all of this. 1754 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 6: Stuff that's unfolded over. 1755 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 2: That's a couple of years. 1756 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 6: I didn't even know what I would say. 1757 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 7: It's been a complete one eighty like the height of 1758 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 7: the diet and Fred tell it. Fred will admit this, 1759 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,840 Speaker 7: like I never ever thought they were gonna lose. 1760 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeh never, Yeah. 1761 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 7: I would declare games over in the first quarter, like 1762 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 7: that's over. It's like they once she's you know, oh 1763 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 7: they Oh Brady can throw it into the winds as well, 1764 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,680 Speaker 7: this game's over. Like literally, I was as obnoxious a 1765 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 7: Patriots fan as you could get. 1766 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 4: We need that. 1767 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 6: I just I just want to know what it's like. 1768 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, we don't need that Paul back. We 1769 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,760 Speaker 7: need that team back. Cap would you be I'll be 1770 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,439 Speaker 7: obnoxious and tell you they're gonna win every game. 1771 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 6: If I think they're gonna. 1772 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 3: Win every game, I mean, it just would have been fun, though, 1773 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 3: to see like you poo pooing a guy and instead 1774 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 3: of it being like Paul was right, to be. 1775 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 6: Like, oh, the guy's actually awesome. I don't know, but 1776 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 6: you know, like you've been like right on all this. 1777 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,639 Speaker 6: I mean, like Matt Jones, I'm like, I don't know, Paul, 1778 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,720 Speaker 6: he's gonna be okay, don't worry like I don't know, 1779 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,679 Speaker 6: like all right, like I'm not gonna lie. 1780 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 7: My first impression of Kyle Williams the other day he 1781 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,639 Speaker 7: runs a go round against Alex Austin and got covered 1782 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,920 Speaker 7: like a blanket. I didn't like that. That was my 1783 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,639 Speaker 7: first thing, first thing that I saw. 1784 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 2: I didn't like it. 1785 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 4: Got open. 1786 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 3: I was sitting well, I was gonna say that in 1787 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,640 Speaker 3: uh and Kyle Williams defense was long, speedest thinger was 1788 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 3: like off the. 1789 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Line and talk. 1790 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,719 Speaker 7: You know, he ran a nice over on I believe 1791 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,639 Speaker 7: Craig Woodson near the sideline for a nice guy throw 1792 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:22,840 Speaker 7: and catch you on that play. 1793 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 6: Give you a little bit of. 1794 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 2: Both Josh and Atlanta says, because I love you. 1795 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 6: I think it was. 1796 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 2: Evan talks about the Celtics for five minutes during a 1797 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,599 Speaker 2: playoff run and gets lamp based by the fake Patriots 1798 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,599 Speaker 2: fans who don't care about Boston sports. Meanwhile, Paul can 1799 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 2: manufacture a narrator argument with multiple leaf Schreiberd name drops, 1800 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:44,599 Speaker 2: and no one bats an eye. Leah, Leah, Evan keep talking, 1801 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,280 Speaker 2: sees the real New Englanders appreciate it, and if Paul 1802 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 2: likes narrating, so much. Let's have him do it for 1803 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 2: episode two. 1804 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:50,680 Speaker 4: Thank you? 1805 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 7: Oh no, like we already told you who the narrator is. 1806 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,200 Speaker 7: The producer is the narrator. 1807 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate he didn't. 1808 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 6: Come from the other side of the field on that play. Okay. 1809 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 7: Evan has informed me that the play that I was 1810 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,639 Speaker 7: giving Kyle Williams props for was just a regular out. 1811 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 7: I could have sworn he was in the slot on 1812 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,439 Speaker 7: the right side of the field and caught it on 1813 01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 7: the left sideline as a. 1814 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 4: Little smash concept hitch corner. Okay, see smash covered too 1815 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 4: little pump, I know, smash throw it in the hole. 1816 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,560 Speaker 6: A little pushback from Evan. Everything's got to give pushback. 1817 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 2: Of the ball, the ball. 1818 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,479 Speaker 4: Knower on case. 1819 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 6: I got to get that T shirt printed. I already 1820 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 6: did it. You have a ball taking a break? Did 1821 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:29,040 Speaker 6: you get food today? 1822 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:29,919 Speaker 2: I did. 1823 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:35,720 Speaker 3: It's not here yet, so like the unc and was 1824 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,799 Speaker 3: like speaking of that, you sent our school into chaos. 1825 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 2: You best dug He says that first time, longtime, Fred, 1826 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,559 Speaker 2: you always used to say Paul's food is here, but 1827 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,000 Speaker 2: you don't anymore. What happened? Did you hurt his feelings? 1828 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 2: Or is Paul so s felt now that you're no 1829 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 2: longer body shaming him. Yeah, Paul doesn't eat anymore. He's 1830 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,840 Speaker 2: on a starvation diet until the Patriots went. 1831 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,759 Speaker 6: Fred's food is here now every day. 1832 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 2: He said, Fortune Fox Sports, fantastic. Love the job all involved, LFG. 1833 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 2: Thanks for the show, Thanks for the great content and hilarity. 1834 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 1: Good. 1835 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 4: It's been a good show. 1836 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 2: It's been fun. But I'm losing steam if I don't 1837 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,519 Speaker 2: get food soon. 1838 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:17,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, all that PiZZ of time. 1839 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 2: Jess in New York City rights in. We got some 1840 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 2: phone calls too. I'll get to. Media footage and press 1841 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,720 Speaker 2: headlines could be used in lieu of a narrator or 1842 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,280 Speaker 2: type on screen to explain things like Rabel's hiring or 1843 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,559 Speaker 2: the construction of the football facility. For example, ten seconds 1844 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 2: from the NFL network doing a breaking news Mike Rabel 1845 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 2: heading back to New England story, or showing a few 1846 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 2: seconds of a press release with a Patriots break ground 1847 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,919 Speaker 2: on football facility headline and picture of the crafts holding shovels. 1848 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what that's called, but I've definitely seen 1849 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,640 Speaker 2: documentaries use quick clips of media coverage. 1850 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 7: That's actually done that. Yeah, yeah, the covery. That's exactly 1851 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 7: what they did for Rabel. Yeah, we had I believe 1852 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:57,799 Speaker 7: it was Adam Schefter. 1853 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we used a lot of eyesen Rich Eisen Yeah, 1854 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,600 Speaker 2: I can't see. Uh, let's see Kendall in North Carolina. 1855 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 2: What's up Kendall, Kendall, Hey, how you doing good? 1856 01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 10: I'm coming up to September twenty nine from North Carolina 1857 01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 10: for the Panthers patries. I think that's the game. Okay, 1858 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 10: I'm coming. 1859 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 12: I wanted I wanted to know. 1860 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 14: What are some good eating areas close to the stadium 1861 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,599 Speaker 14: and some good hotels or airbnb? 1862 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 2: Well, it depends on what you want to I mean, 1863 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,800 Speaker 2: you know there's a lot of good good eats around here. 1864 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,600 Speaker 6: Where are you planning on staying? Yeah, like in Providence 1865 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 6: or in Boston or. 1866 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:38,919 Speaker 10: That we can get to the stadium. 1867 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,719 Speaker 2: Okay, well I would I would say, you know there's 1868 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,600 Speaker 2: two hotels right on property. Yeah, there's the Renaissance and 1869 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,600 Speaker 2: the Hilton Garden in but they usually get booked up 1870 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:55,040 Speaker 2: quick and if you do that, they're expensive. It's the 1871 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 2: Renaissance at Patriot Place and then there's the Hilton Garden 1872 01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,120 Speaker 2: in here at Patriot Place, but they tend to be 1873 01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 2: a little. 1874 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,840 Speaker 4: Also the home to Sweets down the street. 1875 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,240 Speaker 2: There's a holiday Inn in Mansfield, which is actually a 1876 01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,960 Speaker 2: real nice holiday inn which is close by. 1877 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,200 Speaker 14: To Okay, is how is the Boston from. 1878 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 4: Foxboro forty five minutes to an hour? 1879 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,759 Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, I appreciate it. 1880 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, all right, the travel agency thanks often tell 1881 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,640 Speaker 7: him if you end up staying in the in the 1882 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 7: Foxborough area, then there's plenty of restaurants right here at 1883 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,120 Speaker 7: Patriot Place that you know. 1884 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,799 Speaker 2: If you want Italian Lucianos is right down the street. 1885 01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 6: Lucianos is excellent. 1886 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 14: Uh. 1887 01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,920 Speaker 3: There's also a barbecue place that's it looks like about 1888 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,240 Speaker 3: we saw the smoke, like the Pope knocking on the door. 1889 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 2: It is. 1890 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,639 Speaker 6: It is Blondie. 1891 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm ready Blondie's barbecue. I hope it's good. We hope 1892 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 2: we really need good barbecue. I mean it looks legit. 1893 01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,240 Speaker 6: I mean they got the big smokers out there. They've 1894 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 6: been building it for a while. 1895 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the proof is in the bar on the ribs. 1896 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,799 Speaker 2: All right, take a break because my food just arrived, 1897 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 2: uh not Paul's. And we'll be right back after this. 1898 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,080 Speaker 2: Whether you're in the game or betting on the game, 1899 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,639 Speaker 2: you'll need a game plan. 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You look pretty good. 1939 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:11,759 Speaker 2: Guys. 1940 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 17: Send all your leftover emails to podcast at Patriots dot com. 1941 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:16,800 Speaker 17: If they don't get right on the show, we'll read 1942 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:21,760 Speaker 17: them here. So Chris, let's get into it, sure, Fortune Foxbro. Hi, All, 1943 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 17: I just want to say how much I enjoyed the 1944 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,679 Speaker 17: first episode of Fortune Foxbro congrats to executive producer Fred 1945 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,439 Speaker 17: Kirsch and on screen stars do some Paul. I mean, 1946 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:31,360 Speaker 17: it was unbelievable. 1947 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,000 Speaker 18: It was it was it was some absolutely you know 1948 01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 18: the meme with the absolute cinema. Yeah, you can kind 1949 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 18: of give on those. It was really well put together. 1950 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 18: I mean, whole whole squad did a great job on it. 1951 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,240 Speaker 18: You know, everybody kind of came together and it was 1952 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 18: a heavy left but it's an awesome, awesome video. 1953 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 17: I mean, Chris, like you know, just behind the scenes, 1954 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,599 Speaker 17: like a lot happened in the last season. I mean, 1955 01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,360 Speaker 17: we we had it before with the previous administration, and 1956 01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 17: we're went straight into this, but like cameras are rolling 1957 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,599 Speaker 17: the whole time and we're sure to capture that bring 1958 01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,120 Speaker 17: it all the way up and we got another episode coming. 1959 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,960 Speaker 18: Right, and it gives you that like authentic feel to it, 1960 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 18: and it's like it's coming completely from us and it is. 1961 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 1: It's just awesome. Well we've been able to capture. 1962 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 17: If you're a Pats fan, there's no reason not to 1963 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:21,560 Speaker 17: learn it, all right. That was from Dano Thursday's show Greetings. 1964 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 17: So I was driving home from the office listening to 1965 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,960 Speaker 17: Thursday's show, and once I got into the freeway just 1966 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 17: as Alex and Duce were making their simultaneous rod dogging comment. 1967 01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 2: I was looking at the. 1968 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,520 Speaker 17: Car stopped on the side of the road and accidentally 1969 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 17: gazed upon two men relieving themselves, not Paul style, on 1970 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,000 Speaker 17: the side of the road. I actually reround, re round, 1971 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,920 Speaker 17: or whatever the current term is for it the podcast, 1972 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 17: thinking my brain had just made me hear them incorrectly 1973 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,360 Speaker 17: based on what my eyes were seeing. Nope, I heard 1974 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 17: what I heard. I saw what I saw. I laughed 1975 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,800 Speaker 17: out loud. He rarely disappoints cheers to see. 1976 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what to say to that. 1977 01:25:55,000 --> 01:26:03,120 Speaker 17: You gotta call you gotta go, all right, Fred and Paul. 1978 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,720 Speaker 17: Please teach the youngsters oh some manners. Normally I only 1979 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,920 Speaker 17: listen to the replay of podcast on my drive home. 1980 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 17: Today I was working from home and watch the podcast 1981 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,760 Speaker 17: live for the first time. Please teach the youngsters to 1982 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,559 Speaker 17: put their phones down, phones down, and pay attention to 1983 01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:18,240 Speaker 17: the conversation. 1984 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,000 Speaker 1: Rude. 1985 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,080 Speaker 17: Additionally, Evan, stop with the faces when someone disagrees with 1986 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,600 Speaker 17: you with your point of view. I'll be glad to 1987 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,920 Speaker 17: send money for the movie tickets for the youngsters to 1988 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,960 Speaker 17: see Jaws. Just let me know when and where to 1989 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,760 Speaker 17: send the money. Evan, the original Star Wars is that 1990 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,120 Speaker 17: was the best, just like the first Super Bowl was 1991 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 17: the best. 1992 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:36,080 Speaker 1: Old school. 1993 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,599 Speaker 18: I'm actually against the Star Wars take. I think making 1994 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,240 Speaker 18: fun of that in facial expressions is one of the 1995 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 18: funniest things I've heard in a while. 1996 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's he's a sour puss. 1997 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:45,559 Speaker 7: He is. 1998 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,519 Speaker 18: He loves to kind of he gives his opinion if 1999 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 18: someone's nose. 2000 01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,839 Speaker 1: Like, well, I disagree, agreed, disagree. 2001 01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,599 Speaker 2: Phones down. Phones phones are always down here they are, 2002 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,639 Speaker 2: We're down. Come on, phones are down. 2003 01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 17: If you look at the Maddison, the phone's not bad. 2004 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,000 Speaker 1: I've never Yeah, we're taking it all. 2005 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,280 Speaker 17: We'll take that's for that's for Alex and Fess. Yeah, 2006 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,360 Speaker 17: and then with Jaws, that's that's all Alex. 2007 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:07,040 Speaker 2: She needs to see that. 2008 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the fact that she has is crazy old school. 2009 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:11,519 Speaker 17: We'll tell you where to send the money, but she 2010 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 17: needs to watch it. This like it's almost it's almost 2011 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,719 Speaker 17: Cape Cod Martha's Vineyard season. So all right, last one. 2012 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,200 Speaker 17: What I've learned this offseason. I got a list here. Okay, 2013 01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,439 Speaker 17: this from David in DC. I've learned so much from 2014 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,439 Speaker 17: you all this off season. One Fred goes over the 2015 01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 17: top rather than through the door. Two Paul is a 2016 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,400 Speaker 17: hot sister. Three Mike likes the Celtics as much as 2017 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,240 Speaker 17: he likes Tom Brady. Four Alex likes dudes and backwards caps. 2018 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,479 Speaker 17: Five Evan thought that he still thinks he knows everything 2019 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,400 Speaker 17: about football, thought that and probably does, but very little 2020 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 17: about anything else. 2021 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:46,000 Speaker 2: Damn roasted. 2022 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,680 Speaker 17: Six I miss Andy's advice about swamp ass. 2023 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:50,080 Speaker 2: Seven. 2024 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 17: It took a year, but the silos finally came down 2025 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,440 Speaker 17: and there appears to be some collaboration. 2026 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 2: Eight. 2027 01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,880 Speaker 17: The Pope has a degree in mathematics. He not only 2028 01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 17: knows sin, he knows co sign. 2029 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:01,599 Speaker 1: That's exciting. 2030 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:02,160 Speaker 2: I like that. 2031 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,559 Speaker 1: That was a hefty email. 2032 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:06,280 Speaker 2: Is paul sister hot? 2033 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? What about what about that one? 2034 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,559 Speaker 2: But I had questions, as I guess I'll ask Paul. 2035 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:14,519 Speaker 1: And Evan really doesn't know anything about ball either, so 2036 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:16,160 Speaker 1: is he? 2037 01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,160 Speaker 2: The line to us is Evan a fraud? 2038 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Is Evan interesting? 2039 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,280 Speaker 17: He might be, but you can find out that the 2040 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,719 Speaker 17: next episode. 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He did, I objected, He. 2089 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 6: Voiced in opposition, that's ridiculous. 2090 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 2: Yes, told the servers that don't you dare, don't you dare? 2091 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:53,560 Speaker 2: Bring him a cooked. 2092 01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:57,240 Speaker 15: Steak about five minutes later. 2093 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,679 Speaker 2: He doesn't need a good cut, is what I'm saying. 2094 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,960 Speaker 2: You don't need to waste the money on someone who's 2095 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,000 Speaker 2: gonna have all done. 2096 01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 6: It's a waste because you. 2097 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 2: Don't want to. It'll taste the same, is what I'm saying. 2098 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 2: He won't even know the difference. 2099 01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,439 Speaker 6: Of course, you know the difference street cuts of meat. 2100 01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,559 Speaker 2: Not when you do it well done, not when you 2101 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,680 Speaker 2: cook it well done. Just give him a hook. It 2102 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,080 Speaker 2: loses its flavor, It loses all its flavor. 2103 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,240 Speaker 6: All your sins, sins. 2104 01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:29,879 Speaker 2: That's another great moment from so it's your fault, fread 2105 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:31,080 Speaker 2: what's my fault? 2106 01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,000 Speaker 3: When I went to Indian everyone's like, you gotta get 2107 01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,680 Speaker 3: your primary medium rare like Bradley did. And then I 2108 01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,519 Speaker 3: was not in a good place of the combine for 2109 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,280 Speaker 3: about two days. But I think I have it in 2110 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,800 Speaker 3: my head, like if you're gonna get a good steak, 2111 01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:42,120 Speaker 3: you gotta get it medium. 2112 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,599 Speaker 2: Rare, right at the most medium, at the most most medium. 2113 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,679 Speaker 2: That's you doing it. But not Hamburger is different. Hamburger 2114 01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:54,320 Speaker 2: is different because you you've broken the membrane seal. So Hamburger, 2115 01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:58,160 Speaker 2: you actually had no less than medium. I actually, when 2116 01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 2: I go to a restaurant, if I order a hamburger, 2117 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,679 Speaker 2: it's medium well because I want that burger cook because 2118 01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,120 Speaker 2: bacteria gets in when into ground beef. But steak has 2119 01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:11,040 Speaker 2: that membrane still on it, so you can order it 2120 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 2: medium rare. 2121 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,040 Speaker 4: I'm with Fred on the steak. If you order if 2122 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,439 Speaker 4: you go to like a nice steakhouse and you order medium, well, 2123 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,920 Speaker 4: I don't respect you to do better. 2124 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,240 Speaker 6: I don't bother like that's good. 2125 01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,280 Speaker 2: Burger is good. Way, that's good. Yeah, don't you break 2126 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:26,240 Speaker 2: down the membrane. 2127 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,040 Speaker 7: In the mid on this we as We've had this 2128 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,759 Speaker 7: discussion many times in the past. 2129 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:32,800 Speaker 4: Like when we go to the Elmos in Indy, if 2130 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,759 Speaker 4: I see somebody order medium, well, I'm like, why. 2131 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:36,360 Speaker 2: Don't you just go home? 2132 01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:41,240 Speaker 6: It's not going to be anymore, that's for sure. A 2133 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,240 Speaker 6: medium well guy. No, no, I was a medium rare 2134 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:45,240 Speaker 6: guy once and. 2135 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,320 Speaker 4: Just for the record, everybody at that table said to 2136 01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,680 Speaker 4: do hey, dude, that that looks a little rare, like 2137 01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,320 Speaker 4: maybe you should send it back, and no, no, it's 2138 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,240 Speaker 4: all it's fine. 2139 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,599 Speaker 2: But it was like people like their sak like raw, 2140 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,800 Speaker 2: they'll order it rare. Yeah, that's too much. That's what 2141 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,800 Speaker 2: I got was rare. I didn't order the pink not red. 2142 01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:08,920 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I heard that medium rare, but I 2143 01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:10,839 Speaker 3: didn't order the two days on the toilet afterwards. 2144 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:16,639 Speaker 2: Have steak tartar, right. James pettigrew the most interesting Patriots 2145 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 2: fan in the world. 2146 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:17,400 Speaker 1: Right? 2147 01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:20,240 Speaker 2: So how much was the motivation to make the doc 2148 01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,599 Speaker 2: an appeasement to fans? Seems like the old Bill way 2149 01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 2: of communicating only works when winning Super Bowls. Also, how 2150 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,320 Speaker 2: is the new environment for you guys? Does it make 2151 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,800 Speaker 2: the job easier or is there now more to do? 2152 01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,120 Speaker 2: Eric would have hated this much activity in the off season, 2153 01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:40,800 Speaker 2: that's true appiacement to fans. I don't know. I think 2154 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,080 Speaker 2: we were offered the opportunity and we took it. 2155 01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:47,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's it's circumstantial. I think that there 2156 01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,040 Speaker 7: are different coaches that have come in the last two 2157 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,519 Speaker 7: years that had a different sort of mindset when it 2158 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:56,599 Speaker 7: came to content and social media and all that stuff. 2159 01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,680 Speaker 7: And I think Bill was obviously setting his ways and 2160 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,840 Speaker 7: didn't really embraced much of that, whereas Girod last year, 2161 01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,240 Speaker 7: and I would say even more so Mike this year, 2162 01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,320 Speaker 7: have been a little bit more open to doing that. 2163 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,760 Speaker 7: I think that was really the sole impetus. I don't 2164 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 7: think it was. I mean, we're always looking to do 2165 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 7: stuff that we think is going to be appealing to 2166 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 7: the fans. 2167 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:20,000 Speaker 2: The fombs, Well, it's just the word pressure. Like before, 2168 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,759 Speaker 2: like you had pressure to come up with content because 2169 01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:24,599 Speaker 2: you weren't given the access, so you had to do 2170 01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,080 Speaker 2: other things. Now you get the access and now there's 2171 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,719 Speaker 2: a pressure. We better do good with it or they're 2172 01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,000 Speaker 2: going to take it away. Yeah. 2173 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:32,439 Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is a lot of the 2174 01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 3: most high performing content around the league that other teams do. 2175 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 3: I know, the Philadelphia Eagles, they put out videos like this. 2176 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:41,840 Speaker 2: They are noting the wheel here, but I don't know. 2177 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:43,880 Speaker 3: I just the appeasement where it buzzed me because to me, 2178 01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,840 Speaker 3: it's like I just I want to entertain the fans, 2179 01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,920 Speaker 3: Like that's what activation is, entertainment, showing behind the scenes, 2180 01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,040 Speaker 3: this is the response, this is what fans eat. 2181 01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,640 Speaker 2: Our goal is always to bring the fans closer to 2182 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:58,000 Speaker 2: the team. Now we have more ways to do it, 2183 01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:03,800 Speaker 2: which is good. Quick says, hopefully it's a long term series. 2184 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,519 Speaker 2: Any chance of doing a deep dive into the scouting department, 2185 01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,840 Speaker 2: I was fascinated with that aspect of the first episode. 2186 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,679 Speaker 2: I think following the scouts as they attend games without 2187 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 2: telling us who they're looking at, but seeing the scouting 2188 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:16,639 Speaker 2: process through their eyes. 2189 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,800 Speaker 7: Hey, so I would just say this is you know, 2190 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,439 Speaker 7: the appeasement word sort of got under your skin a 2191 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,920 Speaker 7: little bit, Mike. One of the things that gets under 2192 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,360 Speaker 7: my skin a little bit is like, how about we 2193 01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,800 Speaker 7: do this, this and this, and generally there are things 2194 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,080 Speaker 7: that we've done, like we have a series that we've 2195 01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:38,479 Speaker 7: done for I don't know ten years, like, you know, 2196 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,679 Speaker 7: do your job. Yep, We've been behind the scenes with scouts. 2197 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,800 Speaker 7: We've given you deep dives into some of these things. Now, 2198 01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 7: I think the meetings themselves that Evan was talking about, 2199 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,840 Speaker 7: that's a little different that we've gotten to show you. 2200 01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,800 Speaker 7: But we've followed a guy on the road, a pro 2201 01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,599 Speaker 7: scout on the road, you know, to do his job. 2202 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,080 Speaker 6: We've fall load, you know, all kinds of different. 2203 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,640 Speaker 7: Personnel here and what they do, and we're going to 2204 01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,960 Speaker 7: have a story I think soon. Ted Harper, the nutritionist, 2205 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:17,280 Speaker 7: was just recognized from the ward. Alex who's not here 2206 01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:20,360 Speaker 7: today because she's on another community event. She's going to 2207 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,760 Speaker 7: be doing a nice profile on that. Again, we've done 2208 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,320 Speaker 7: him before. We're telling you behind the scenes stuff of 2209 01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,640 Speaker 7: what all these people do, and that the content is 2210 01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,639 Speaker 7: out there. Maybe we need to do a better job 2211 01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,360 Speaker 7: of promoting it, but we've done a lot of these 2212 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,160 Speaker 7: things that people are looking for. 2213 01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,280 Speaker 6: Evan embedded, Evan embedded with the Scouting Department. 2214 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Evan just needs to go to the 2215 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:45,080 Speaker 7: Scouting Department of me. I just think you're missing this 2216 01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,120 Speaker 7: guy knows what he's talking. You're young enough, like see, 2217 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:52,360 Speaker 7: I'm too old. You're young enough to reinvent yourself. 2218 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:57,320 Speaker 2: I could see you on the road in Kennesaw, Georgia, Paul. 2219 01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,920 Speaker 3: Paul taking down offensive line. 2220 01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 2: When you're done downloading porn to your laptop. 2221 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,479 Speaker 7: That is what that is what you have to do 2222 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,479 Speaker 7: to be a member of the Scouting Oh no, I'm 2223 01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:12,880 Speaker 7: just kidding. 2224 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,280 Speaker 2: Just a turn. 2225 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:15,679 Speaker 4: There we go. 2226 01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,519 Speaker 2: Boston Cream's on the line. What's up, Boston Cream? 2227 01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 6: Yo yo donut. 2228 01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,439 Speaker 14: Hey guys, I think we've reached our limit for tired 2229 01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:29,840 Speaker 14: pumps on your guys' video. There so spread people in 2230 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,200 Speaker 14: the organization listen to you on certain things, right, you 2231 01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:32,840 Speaker 14: have a voice. 2232 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:38,439 Speaker 2: No, I'm out of the loop. Okay, I have no voice. 2233 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,559 Speaker 14: I would say that you're like the medium between the 2234 01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:43,800 Speaker 14: fans and the organization. 2235 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:48,479 Speaker 2: Is that correct? I can be at that at times? Sure, Okay, yeah, okay. 2236 01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,040 Speaker 14: I've always taken you as someone who isn't scared of 2237 01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,960 Speaker 14: a challenge, at least in certain arguments on the show. 2238 01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:54,679 Speaker 2: Sure. 2239 01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,080 Speaker 14: So the fans have spoken and the current uniforms aren't 2240 01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,960 Speaker 14: living up to the Patriots standard of excellent and also 2241 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,960 Speaker 14: the voice of the Patriots fans. What can a man 2242 01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:06,640 Speaker 14: of the people like yourself. 2243 01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:06,840 Speaker 8: Do about it? 2244 01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:07,080 Speaker 3: Right? 2245 01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,919 Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. And sometimes you're more effective 2246 01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,240 Speaker 2: being a voice if you agree with it. I don't 2247 01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:16,200 Speaker 2: really give a damn about the uniforms, So I don't 2248 01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,680 Speaker 2: know if i'd be your most effective voice. But I 2249 01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:22,280 Speaker 2: have heard about that, and uh, you know, I think 2250 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,519 Speaker 2: that there's like a five year runway that you have 2251 01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,280 Speaker 2: to have when you want to make a whole sale 2252 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:33,080 Speaker 2: uniform change, whole uniform change. So, but I think didn't 2253 01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:39,200 Speaker 2: they announce that they're going to have the rivalry? It's 2254 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:43,240 Speaker 2: the No. They didn't wear the one piece blueberry last year, 2255 01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:44,080 Speaker 2: I know, but. 2256 01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,519 Speaker 6: But they did. Yeah. 2257 01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,479 Speaker 7: Now, they had other games that they wore the dirty 2258 01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 7: pants with the blue shirt because because they were both 2259 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:50,680 Speaker 7: no one wants to. 2260 01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:52,519 Speaker 2: But nobody want to know. I agree that the one 2261 01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:53,960 Speaker 2: piece blueberry forget. 2262 01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,600 Speaker 4: It all that out and at the nfl p A 2263 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,720 Speaker 4: thing with the Rookie Symposium thing, Trayvon Henderson and I 2264 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,400 Speaker 4: think as Kyle Williams were there and uh, they were 2265 01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,120 Speaker 4: wearing the full blueberries. 2266 01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:14,560 Speaker 6: Really, so do you guys have be interested in you? 2267 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,200 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Paul, what would you like 2268 01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,719 Speaker 2: to see? Hello? 2269 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,760 Speaker 11: Sorry, I thought that question was to Paul, for you 2270 01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:25,160 Speaker 11: to you. 2271 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:27,920 Speaker 3: Like. 2272 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,639 Speaker 14: I kind of like a lot of different things here. 2273 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,360 Speaker 14: I don't want to go back to the dynasty. I 2274 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:34,080 Speaker 14: think that just needs to live. 2275 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:34,519 Speaker 10: In the past. 2276 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,280 Speaker 6: What wrong? 2277 01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,400 Speaker 14: Like I would like to see the Patriots work in 2278 01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,000 Speaker 14: more alternate uniforms so that we all everyone kind of 2279 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,760 Speaker 14: gets what they want. But there's gonna be a little 2280 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:51,840 Speaker 14: bit of a modernization on probably the helmet, probably the jersey. 2281 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,920 Speaker 14: And then it took Heay to get the silver pants back. 2282 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,680 Speaker 14: I think that's kind of iconic and Patriots history. But 2283 01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,680 Speaker 14: I don't have the answer. But I'm not I'm not 2284 01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,479 Speaker 14: as smart. I'm not as smart as bread. 2285 01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:08,080 Speaker 4: So I think the blueberry I think it works as 2286 01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:12,280 Speaker 4: a jersey. I think it's the full ensemble that doesn't work. 2287 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,400 Speaker 6: That's is my question to you guys. 2288 01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,080 Speaker 7: Is it the monochromatic thing that we don't like or 2289 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,639 Speaker 7: is it the actual style of the uniform. 2290 01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,439 Speaker 2: Usually I don't like one color throughout the only time 2291 01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,800 Speaker 2: sometimes it looks good, like when the Bengals came out 2292 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:29,759 Speaker 2: in the all white that looked sharp. 2293 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,360 Speaker 7: I like it as a one off. Yeah, I do 2294 01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,040 Speaker 7: like them as a one off. That the one color, Yeah. 2295 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:39,120 Speaker 4: Well they did that. That was color rush that these are, Yeah, 2296 01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:42,479 Speaker 4: and I kind of like some of those now. I 2297 01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:46,599 Speaker 4: think that the the blueberry jersey could more or less 2298 01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:50,240 Speaker 4: work with the silver pants. But the silver pants have 2299 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,559 Speaker 4: to be made for the blueberry jersey. They can't be 2300 01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:54,880 Speaker 4: made for the old like the silver pants that they 2301 01:40:54,960 --> 01:41:01,280 Speaker 4: use now are pants? Are we're crossing sets of jerseys extreams? Right? 2302 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,280 Speaker 3: I think I would say the tip uniform behind Paul 2303 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,599 Speaker 3: over there, that white jersey with the red pants, I'd 2304 01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:07,960 Speaker 3: like to see some version of that. 2305 01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:11,040 Speaker 6: And then I just like to see a modernistable. 2306 01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:11,520 Speaker 2: In so seventies. 2307 01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:15,479 Speaker 6: I like that, but don't overthink it. 2308 01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,800 Speaker 3: I would just say, update the Dynasty uniforms, get a 2309 01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 3: little bit more of a modern fit, maybe a little 2310 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:23,160 Speaker 3: bit different though, Like I'm not a designer, but I 2311 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:24,760 Speaker 3: just think the cut could be a little bit more. 2312 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,559 Speaker 6: Maybe perhaps you know, just as you get better. 2313 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,240 Speaker 3: Jerseys fit a little bit better. But I just that's 2314 01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,160 Speaker 3: the Patriots. Like you want to flip on the TV 2315 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,720 Speaker 3: and you know instantly who's playing. That's what happens when 2316 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,000 Speaker 3: you turn on the Packers. It's always looked the same. 2317 01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,560 Speaker 3: They have some the cowboys, the forty nine ers, the 2318 01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,360 Speaker 3: dynasties in the NFL, where the uniforms that they were 2319 01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,000 Speaker 3: dynasties in And that's who the Patriots are. 2320 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:45,760 Speaker 6: I think that's who they should mostly be. 2321 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,679 Speaker 2: The you're saying you don't want change. 2322 01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,799 Speaker 6: I want those to come back. I want the Dynasty, 2323 01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:52,559 Speaker 6: but update them. 2324 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,559 Speaker 7: But if they were all blue with that like they 2325 01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:55,879 Speaker 7: did in two thousand and two. 2326 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,400 Speaker 6: The Patriots, No, I don't like it too much blue. 2327 01:41:58,680 --> 01:41:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm blueberries. 2328 01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,200 Speaker 4: The forty nine ers are a great example because they've 2329 01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,600 Speaker 4: modernized the Dynasty jersey and. 2330 01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:08,000 Speaker 3: It's still like you flip the TV and still red 2331 01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,040 Speaker 3: and every somebody from the nineteen eighties coming to try 2332 01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:11,200 Speaker 3: a time machine. 2333 01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:12,000 Speaker 6: Which dynasty. 2334 01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:15,080 Speaker 7: They were entirely different uniforms throughout their dinostare point. 2335 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:16,800 Speaker 3: I didn't care for the ones where they went like 2336 01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:20,280 Speaker 3: the shadow numbers, the shadow numbers, like the turn I 2337 01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:22,000 Speaker 3: didn't like that. But they were in the they were 2338 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,559 Speaker 3: in the same like vicinity right like they weren't totally. 2339 01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:26,320 Speaker 2: They changed some of the font a little bit. 2340 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,439 Speaker 7: And the colors of color scheme. The Patriots changed their 2341 01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:29,960 Speaker 7: color skin. 2342 01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they went blue. 2343 01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,600 Speaker 6: Miners didn't. Yeah, So that's I mean, that's just to me. 2344 01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,160 Speaker 7: I know, they went from red to blue, Like you 2345 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,320 Speaker 7: like one blue and you don't like another blue. 2346 01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,240 Speaker 6: That was too much blue, which is what I'm like 2347 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,000 Speaker 6: the primate group I don't want. That's what I'm finding 2348 01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 6: interesting is you guys. It's you don't like the one color. 2349 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,960 Speaker 6: You don't like the monocrap which manic look. I didn't 2350 01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,760 Speaker 6: hate it when it was a color rush uniform, like 2351 01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,679 Speaker 6: when it was once a year, and I would agree 2352 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,599 Speaker 6: with you, and I could swallow a pill on any 2353 01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,120 Speaker 6: one off unifor I just don't like. 2354 01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,880 Speaker 7: I mean, obviously they had tremendous success. I don't really 2355 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:03,000 Speaker 7: like the blue and gray with the elvis I don't. 2356 01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,280 Speaker 7: I like the old ones better, but they're never going 2357 01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:07,960 Speaker 7: back to the old one, so it doesn't really matter. 2358 01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:12,000 Speaker 2: I've like, I've kind of not had a problem, but 2359 01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:15,080 Speaker 2: wish that they go away from the silver helmet to 2360 01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:17,640 Speaker 2: white with the new logo. I think that would be 2361 01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,719 Speaker 2: sharp because you know we're the Patriots. That's red, white 2362 01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,400 Speaker 2: and blue. Where does silver come into here? You know? 2363 01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:28,519 Speaker 4: The other thing I worry about, like the Bruins have 2364 01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:32,280 Speaker 4: like sixteen different jerseys, like they have all like, we don't. 2365 01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:32,960 Speaker 6: I don't want that. 2366 01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:37,320 Speaker 2: Now. Your league, the NBA, it's getting worse. It's getting worse. 2367 01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:38,599 Speaker 6: League. 2368 01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,080 Speaker 4: It's not it's not quite the Bruins, like the always 2369 01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,519 Speaker 4: have three different jerseys in rotation. Right now they don't 2370 01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:43,800 Speaker 4: have it. 2371 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,759 Speaker 2: Seems more to me. But what about the Red Sox 2372 01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,640 Speaker 2: new one, the new Yeah, the. 2373 01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,520 Speaker 4: Then hate it? 2374 01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,360 Speaker 2: They were once and then they didn't wear it again, 2375 01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,920 Speaker 2: you know, like over the weekend, Like yeah, but if 2376 01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:59,439 Speaker 2: it be a different usually city, connect your word for 2377 01:43:59,479 --> 01:43:59,960 Speaker 2: the series. 2378 01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:02,799 Speaker 4: No, they'll wear it again, but I'm. 2379 01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:04,639 Speaker 2: Sure they will, but they didn't wear it after that game. 2380 01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:08,120 Speaker 4: I really I really liked those ones. I thought those 2381 01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,439 Speaker 4: are the best ones so far. Of the alternates, and 2382 01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,800 Speaker 4: I thought they were really sharp. That green is obviously 2383 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,200 Speaker 4: stoic with Fenway, like, that's a that's what I. 2384 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 6: Kind of liked about it. 2385 01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:17,799 Speaker 2: Monster. 2386 01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's green, Monster Green, I kind of liked. 2387 01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:22,519 Speaker 4: I bought one of the hats. I'm not shame to 2388 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,080 Speaker 4: admit I love the hat. 2389 01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,000 Speaker 7: I don't hate to look at those other ones, though, 2390 01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:28,080 Speaker 7: the blue and yellow ones. I just think they wore 2391 01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:28,679 Speaker 7: them too much. 2392 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,160 Speaker 4: And it's just also like I get the connection, I 2393 01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:34,439 Speaker 4: get the story behind them, but it's not really red Sox. 2394 01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:35,080 Speaker 2: No. 2395 01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,960 Speaker 4: It was a one time thing with the marathon that like, 2396 01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:39,519 Speaker 4: but now it's kind of. 2397 01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:42,479 Speaker 2: Green Monster shirts Adam and Whizyanna. The current jerseys are 2398 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,080 Speaker 2: way too generic. They look like the jersey you get 2399 01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,920 Speaker 2: assigned in a video game for startup team. There's no 2400 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,040 Speaker 2: pizazz to the uniforms. It's just blue and stripes. 2401 01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:52,719 Speaker 6: It's very constructive email. 2402 01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,200 Speaker 2: There's nothing interesting about them. I'm in favor of the 2403 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,720 Speaker 2: Dynasty uniforms coming back or a new rendition on the 2404 01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:03,240 Speaker 2: nineties Royal Blue Ooze like those the Royal Blues. When 2405 01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:04,920 Speaker 2: they were out, people made fun of them. 2406 01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,680 Speaker 4: I don't think they're great. They made fun of them. 2407 01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,479 Speaker 3: Well now it's like they're so bad they're I don't 2408 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:10,640 Speaker 3: remember them getting made fun of. 2409 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,920 Speaker 7: Fred Evidently every uniform they ever had got made fun of, right, 2410 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,200 Speaker 7: I love everybody made fun of the pat Patriots. 2411 01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:18,080 Speaker 6: I don't remember this. 2412 01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,320 Speaker 4: Can we can we bring them back, like for like 2413 01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,360 Speaker 4: an anniversary game of Like. 2414 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,160 Speaker 2: Sure there's something like I mean, just that's. 2415 01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:25,679 Speaker 4: That's my child. 2416 01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,679 Speaker 3: It's like all of it to me feels a little 2417 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:31,200 Speaker 3: bit screwy because like even their practice jerseys still seem 2418 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,000 Speaker 3: like they have the font from the old Dynasty jerseys 2419 01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:35,720 Speaker 3: on them. But it's a different fun NOWT Like, these 2420 01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:37,640 Speaker 3: are all things that I track, and I'm like, not 2421 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:38,919 Speaker 3: track like a dated. 2422 01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,280 Speaker 6: That's how I know you track it. 2423 01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,960 Speaker 4: But when they wear the blueberry top with the silver pants, 2424 01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,559 Speaker 4: but the silver pants belong to the Dynasty uniforms, they 2425 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,200 Speaker 4: don't belong to these, and the stripes are all they 2426 01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:50,800 Speaker 4: don't I'm like, what this looks. 2427 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:51,839 Speaker 2: I'd look ridiculous. 2428 01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,280 Speaker 3: Get a fashion person, like a legit fashion person, to 2429 01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:56,200 Speaker 3: break down the uniforms, like all of them, like all 2430 01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,080 Speaker 3: the ones they ever warn and get like an honest, 2431 01:45:58,280 --> 01:45:59,759 Speaker 3: fashion informed opinion. 2432 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:00,960 Speaker 6: What for that means. 2433 01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:06,240 Speaker 2: Okay, back to football, Jason writes in predictions for starting 2434 01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:09,960 Speaker 2: offense and defense, all twenty two guys, we're not doing 2435 01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:14,760 Speaker 2: that yet. Also a game, what's everyone's hope expectation? And 2436 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:22,480 Speaker 2: better not be okay, So three categories, what's everyone's hope expectation? 2437 01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,559 Speaker 2: And better not be for wins? So what's your hope? 2438 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:27,000 Speaker 2: Seventeen and owns right? 2439 01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:30,639 Speaker 6: Well, is this record related or just general speakings? Hope 2440 01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:35,280 Speaker 6: ten wins, expectation seven wins? Better not be four wins? 2441 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:40,840 Speaker 2: That's right way, Yeah, seventeen and now hope, what's your 2442 01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,920 Speaker 2: hope expectation? And better not be for Drake May's touchdowns 2443 01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:47,000 Speaker 2: slash passing yards. 2444 01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:51,840 Speaker 6: Under fifteen interceptions be that better not. 2445 01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,920 Speaker 2: Being interceptions are approaching the touchdowns. 2446 01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,080 Speaker 4: Kind of be like a two fifteen is a good Yeah, 2447 01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:01,040 Speaker 4: fifteen through forty touchdown correct? 2448 01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,639 Speaker 6: I agree with you two to one ration. I think 2449 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,320 Speaker 6: someone recently had like forty one and sixteen. I could 2450 01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:08,040 Speaker 6: I could live, I could live. I think Josh Allen 2451 01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:09,000 Speaker 6: might have had a year like. 2452 01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:12,400 Speaker 4: That's quite crazy. Yeah, I even throw forty three. 2453 01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:15,400 Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying, like to your point, like I 2454 01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:18,960 Speaker 7: can live with fifteen recks. If he's showing forty touchdowns, yeah, 2455 01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:20,040 Speaker 7: I think. 2456 01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:23,439 Speaker 2: My hope for touchdowns is forty. My expectation is thirty 2457 01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,000 Speaker 2: and better not be. Ten. 2458 01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:28,840 Speaker 4: Man, if he throws thirty touchdown passes, they're going to 2459 01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:30,320 Speaker 4: be They're going to be in the playoffs. 2460 01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:30,840 Speaker 2: Like my hope. 2461 01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 6: My hope is thirty. 2462 01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:35,960 Speaker 7: My expectation is twenty five and better not be anything 2463 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:36,759 Speaker 7: less than twenty. 2464 01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,760 Speaker 4: What if you're like runs in ten though, you know, 2465 01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:40,920 Speaker 4: like my. 2466 01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:44,160 Speaker 2: Passing yard points see this more evan pushback. My passing 2467 01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:49,160 Speaker 2: yards is forty two hundred hope, thirty five hundred expectation, 2468 01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,560 Speaker 2: and I think under three thousand, better not be. 2469 01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,559 Speaker 6: I got to have my expectation four thousand. 2470 01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:57,600 Speaker 7: I think in the seventeen game season, I need my 2471 01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,320 Speaker 7: quarterback to play and throw over four thousand yards. 2472 01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,960 Speaker 2: Right, that's fair. And what about points per game allowed 2473 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:07,200 Speaker 2: and scored? Oh, Fred under fifteen? Right, remember that a 2474 01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:07,960 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. 2475 01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:13,960 Speaker 6: I mean, let's say twenty seven game. 2476 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:17,519 Speaker 2: So that's your hope for that's my no, that's my hope. 2477 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,280 Speaker 6: No score, yeah, yeah, offensively twenty seven. 2478 01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,679 Speaker 3: I'm not going to go to thirty, But I mean thirty, 2479 01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:25,040 Speaker 3: you know, that's twenty seven. 2480 01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:26,240 Speaker 6: That's still pretty high. 2481 01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 4: I think that Mac Jones team was like twenty five 2482 01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,920 Speaker 4: or twenty six a game exactly, So I would say 2483 01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:32,600 Speaker 4: that that's probably. 2484 01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:34,960 Speaker 6: Like a lot of defensive scores. 2485 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,120 Speaker 4: That's probably the hope is that it would be like, ye, 2486 01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:43,240 Speaker 4: the same as that obviously look different. But yeah, ever 2487 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:48,560 Speaker 4: being realistic, expectation twenty twenty, No, it's got to be 2488 01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:49,640 Speaker 4: at least twenty one and one. 2489 01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:54,960 Speaker 2: No, my expectation is twenty six twenty six. Expectation never 2490 01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:55,599 Speaker 2: going to lose. 2491 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:56,759 Speaker 4: That's a big number. 2492 01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:01,400 Speaker 6: This expectation is forty touchdowns. All right, Patriots, we'll see 2493 01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:03,120 Speaker 6: us as not meeting expectations. 2494 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:05,040 Speaker 2: If that's my expectations. 2495 01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,599 Speaker 4: Somebody that predicted them to go thirteen and four might 2496 01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:08,320 Speaker 4: be right. 2497 01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:10,040 Speaker 6: I thought we were trying to. 2498 01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:17,479 Speaker 2: Okay, what is that those previous I don't know. Ed 2499 01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,080 Speaker 2: in Florida writes in with a new direction in the 2500 01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,559 Speaker 2: way the team is going, I think we should have 2501 01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,439 Speaker 2: new game day music. Crazy train has run its course. 2502 01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,479 Speaker 2: My suggestion would be enter Sandman. Does the group have 2503 01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:32,200 Speaker 2: any thoughts? I love that, but that's that's copycat, right. 2504 01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:36,240 Speaker 7: You can't do Yeah, I'm all for what's changing up 2505 01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:37,559 Speaker 7: because it's run its course. 2506 01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,439 Speaker 6: But we don't want to steal someone else's. 2507 01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:40,439 Speaker 2: It's hard. 2508 01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:41,400 Speaker 6: That's it's really hard. 2509 01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 2: We wanted to tech come. 2510 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,360 Speaker 6: Up with something that's different. 2511 01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Welcome to the Jungle. There's just songs 2512 01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:49,880 Speaker 3: that are just generic. I don't know, it's so it's 2513 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,560 Speaker 3: so hard. I think about them, the jungles of Celtics, right, Like, 2514 01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,920 Speaker 3: I mean there's always there's like what five six songs 2515 01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:56,760 Speaker 3: that everybody. 2516 01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:57,880 Speaker 2: Man Andrew Sam is a great song. 2517 01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:01,599 Speaker 4: But like as a Bostonian, like I think Mariano Rivera 2518 01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,680 Speaker 4: and like you can't have that, like you can't be 2519 01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:04,439 Speaker 4: taking stuff. 2520 01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:04,639 Speaker 2: From the air. 2521 01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:06,960 Speaker 7: I mean it's great, like that tradition is great. I 2522 01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,840 Speaker 7: just think if you want, you need to start your 2523 01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,240 Speaker 7: own tradition. Yes, I'm a big fan around I'm telling. 2524 01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:12,639 Speaker 6: You it's easy. 2525 01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:16,479 Speaker 7: No, but that's that's what the goal should be, is 2526 01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:19,280 Speaker 7: to start your own tradition, write our own. 2527 01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,920 Speaker 6: Really kick ass intro song. It's like us playing music. 2528 01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:28,160 Speaker 2: Back on the field. 2529 01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,519 Speaker 7: Like it's like a big It's like a big band 2530 01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:33,799 Speaker 7: era swing. 2531 01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:39,040 Speaker 2: You're down to the Patriots. We're gonna run all over. 2532 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:40,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go on the run ball I'm pumped up 2533 01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,760 Speaker 4: or you you can get a seal here, I'm gonna 2534 01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,000 Speaker 4: run over in the. 2535 01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:49,800 Speaker 6: It is a great question. 2536 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,400 Speaker 3: I think about it, like sometimes I'm listening to like 2537 01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,960 Speaker 3: my you know, iPod on my music, Apple Music, whatever, 2538 01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,840 Speaker 3: the m P three play my P three player, my 2539 01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:57,559 Speaker 3: cassette tape. 2540 01:50:58,720 --> 01:50:59,920 Speaker 6: You know, it's a song to come on, like with 2541 01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:00,680 Speaker 6: this be a good one. 2542 01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,200 Speaker 3: There's no like you can't come up with a new 2543 01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,240 Speaker 3: hype song, like I feel like they already exist. It's 2544 01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,759 Speaker 3: hard to go outside of the outside of the box. 2545 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:06,960 Speaker 8: You know. 2546 01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's got to get you right at the beginning. 2547 01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:10,479 Speaker 6: So anybody used Lose Yourself? 2548 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,839 Speaker 2: I mean the Lions, Yeah, Detroit. 2549 01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:15,439 Speaker 4: I don't know if they use it, but like that's 2550 01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,920 Speaker 4: kind of yeah, I can't. 2551 01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,720 Speaker 2: You got to have that recognizable, I like, but you 2552 01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:21,160 Speaker 2: hear it. 2553 01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:23,799 Speaker 3: You know at the beginning of Metal the Store Ragnarok, 2554 01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,920 Speaker 3: they used immigrant song by Let's up on a Little 2555 01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:32,720 Speaker 3: But you know that's like that, yeah, you know that. 2556 01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,880 Speaker 7: I know he really has worked on his music in 2557 01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:37,880 Speaker 7: the off season because I got both of. 2558 01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:42,240 Speaker 2: Them, well, like the Thorpe trailer use that, yeah for 2559 01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:43,639 Speaker 2: their trailer, and it was really good. 2560 01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's great. That's a great pump up song. 2561 01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:47,720 Speaker 3: But you know again, like we're going back to the seventies, 2562 01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,080 Speaker 3: Like there isn't like a modern song. 2563 01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:50,320 Speaker 2: We don't have. 2564 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:51,439 Speaker 4: We don't do rock bands. 2565 01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,639 Speaker 6: Well, you don't do the seventies, says we know with Josh, 2566 01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:54,200 Speaker 6: So we don't. 2567 01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:54,840 Speaker 4: We don't do rock. 2568 01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,640 Speaker 2: If you do want to use eminem, I would use 2569 01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:57,400 Speaker 2: till I collapse. 2570 01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:58,000 Speaker 15: That's eminem. 2571 01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,920 Speaker 2: That's that is like I'm like, but like there's like 2572 01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,120 Speaker 2: certain songs that you hear like Hotel California in the 2573 01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:07,599 Speaker 2: moment I got to listen, Like there's one that I 2574 01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:11,680 Speaker 2: love from the Hollys called Long Cool Woman Dress. Like 2575 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,600 Speaker 2: when I hear that song, crank it up, you know, 2576 01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:17,360 Speaker 2: But I don't think that would work now to people. 2577 01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:21,360 Speaker 4: It's very disappointing the side note of music in general, 2578 01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:22,960 Speaker 4: Like we don't have any of that. 2579 01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,400 Speaker 6: No, Like we can't use a distract. 2580 01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:28,439 Speaker 4: Right, Like it's I mean that would be cool, but 2581 01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,920 Speaker 4: like we don't have any of that because like there's 2582 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:35,280 Speaker 4: other thing as bands anywhere, you know, like you guys, 2583 01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,320 Speaker 4: it's it's a it's a point of contention for me 2584 01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,840 Speaker 4: that like that I really thought about like we kind 2585 01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:42,479 Speaker 4: of write like no bands anymore really, like you know, 2586 01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:46,120 Speaker 4: I mean Green Day was a band, but like that, 2587 01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:48,200 Speaker 4: that's like you literally have to go that far back 2588 01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,679 Speaker 4: to find like an actual rock band. There's no bands, 2589 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,840 Speaker 4: Like there's no lot of bands like. 2590 01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:55,719 Speaker 2: We will never Dragons took over the scene. 2591 01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:58,920 Speaker 4: You will never have like a Mick Jagger like that 2592 01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,760 Speaker 4: does doesn't like we don't have a Rolling Stones, we 2593 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:06,200 Speaker 4: don't have uh the who led Zeppelin? Like that stuff 2594 01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:07,360 Speaker 4: doesn't exist. 2595 01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:17,160 Speaker 19: Like you got to go back to like like it's 2596 01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:19,640 Speaker 19: like Taylor Swift, Yeah, exactly right, Like you don't know 2597 01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:20,880 Speaker 19: who's in Taylor Swiss band. 2598 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,879 Speaker 4: No it's not you know it's not it's not led Zeppelin, 2599 01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:25,680 Speaker 4: it's Taylor Swift. 2600 01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:26,479 Speaker 6: I never thought of that. 2601 01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's something that I've thought about. 2602 01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:32,120 Speaker 2: A lot, I guess, like like even like Pearl Jam, 2603 01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:33,080 Speaker 2: are they a band? 2604 01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like they're going back a little bit, you know, 2605 01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:41,000 Speaker 4: Alex checking in what she said, uh like while you're 2606 01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:42,879 Speaker 4: looking at that bill and San Diego says. 2607 01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:46,479 Speaker 7: Not that French Montana featuring Rick Ross, Drake and Lil Wayne, 2608 01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,800 Speaker 7: there's a Rick Ross line that goes balling, balling, Like 2609 01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,120 Speaker 7: I play for New England. 2610 01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:53,840 Speaker 4: That's true. Yeah, that was back up. 2611 01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,800 Speaker 2: Bill in San Diego says new Patriots song Somebody's Gonna 2612 01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,400 Speaker 2: Get their Heads kicked in tonight by the Resilios. 2613 01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,559 Speaker 6: I've never heard it familiar, but I like the title 2614 01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:02,840 Speaker 6: of it. 2615 01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:09,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Someone's gonna get their head kicked in. Robert says, 2616 01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:15,559 Speaker 2: Van Halen's right now now, like like, you gotta have 2617 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:16,439 Speaker 2: an edge to it. 2618 01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:18,960 Speaker 6: Alex says, use Panama. I you're gonna use van Halen Panama. 2619 01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:19,879 Speaker 2: I like Panama. 2620 01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:22,120 Speaker 4: But the kids these days are going to be like, 2621 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:23,599 Speaker 4: what is this music? 2622 01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:24,000 Speaker 7: Yeah? 2623 01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:24,519 Speaker 2: Right? 2624 01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:26,160 Speaker 3: Don't you just wish you could crack the code that 2625 01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:28,800 Speaker 3: and be like, wow, they played this is their entry 2626 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:30,759 Speaker 3: song and no one's ever thought of something like that before. 2627 01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:31,479 Speaker 6: We always do a C. 2628 01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:31,800 Speaker 14: D C. 2629 01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:35,600 Speaker 3: And Metallica and you know bon Jovi, those bands back then, 2630 01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 3: Like everybody uses those songs. 2631 01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:43,240 Speaker 4: Need something new, There is nothing new. This is the problem. 2632 01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:45,520 Speaker 6: We've got to make it. We're gonna write it ourselves. 2633 01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:50,680 Speaker 6: I got the AI I haven't working on. Evan has 2634 01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:51,720 Speaker 6: returned from practice. 2635 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:53,680 Speaker 4: Yeah that's a banger. 2636 01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:55,040 Speaker 6: It's a banger. 2637 01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:59,840 Speaker 2: The Patriots uniform, She says, Okay, how is about they 2638 01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,720 Speaker 2: pick silver or gray and stick with that as a 2639 01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,720 Speaker 2: complimentary color. So the helmet is the same gray or 2640 01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,760 Speaker 2: silver as the pants. But how's about they don't go 2641 01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,560 Speaker 2: back to the dynasty. Look, I do agree with the 2642 01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:14,600 Speaker 2: modern twist of the dynasty with the cut, but I 2643 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,600 Speaker 2: do really like the more updated blueberry shade of blue. 2644 01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:19,480 Speaker 2: Let's go forward, not back. 2645 01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:23,560 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, sure a lot of opinions. 2646 01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:26,560 Speaker 7: And Scott like the cut was a problem, Like I haven't. Yeah, 2647 01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:31,560 Speaker 7: the uniforms remembers are all the same right around the league. 2648 01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:32,960 Speaker 7: It's the same manufacturer. 2649 01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:34,880 Speaker 6: It's like subtle Yeah, well that's what I mean. It'd 2650 01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:35,840 Speaker 6: probably be inevitable. 2651 01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:37,800 Speaker 3: But the subtle changes you went from, you went to 2652 01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,680 Speaker 3: like the Reebok one that that Seymour is in right there, 2653 01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:43,160 Speaker 3: to the Nike one that Brady's in right there. 2654 01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,120 Speaker 6: You see some almost afraid to turn around. 2655 01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:47,880 Speaker 7: I don't know if because I have to admit that 2656 01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:49,200 Speaker 7: I don't notice the differences. 2657 01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:52,520 Speaker 2: There is a different cut, like you go back to 2658 01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,080 Speaker 2: like the seventies when they had the big shoulder pads 2659 01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,120 Speaker 2: and the and the you know them. 2660 01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:01,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it looks like my pop Warner, Like it looks. 2661 01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:05,280 Speaker 2: Like a comment is about to crush the earth. Scott 2662 01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,240 Speaker 2: san Diego says the dropkick Murphy shipping up the Boston 2663 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:09,839 Speaker 2: cliche cliche. 2664 01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:12,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like obviously, like the first couple of 2665 01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:15,400 Speaker 4: notes of that are good, but I agree, well. 2666 01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,800 Speaker 2: Cliche Jack says eminence front by the Who. 2667 01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,920 Speaker 6: Why don't I know that? 2668 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:23,800 Speaker 2: What's that? 2669 01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:24,560 Speaker 6: One's the end of. 2670 01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:32,720 Speaker 2: No, they've glorified it's just Devin in Toronto says, no bands, 2671 01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:36,400 Speaker 2: terrible take just say you don't keep up with Rick 2672 01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,240 Speaker 2: music anymore. Rick, I don't know what. 2673 01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,839 Speaker 4: Tell me, Tell me who who were the popular? 2674 01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:45,960 Speaker 2: My vote for entrance song is Blackout by Turnstile exactly. 2675 01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:47,160 Speaker 4: No one knows who that is. 2676 01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:54,640 Speaker 5: If you're gonna, you know, because we're boling in reverse 2677 01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:57,880 Speaker 5: a great and no one knows who it is, Like 2678 01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:00,520 Speaker 5: we're like your music official, I don't know. 2679 01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:02,400 Speaker 4: But I'm sitting here, So what are you talking because 2680 01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,840 Speaker 4: I'm you're talking about Rolling Stones and he brings up 2681 01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,880 Speaker 4: Turnstyle like so this is a modern band. 2682 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:11,040 Speaker 7: But all right, so I'm gonna at the risk of defending, 2683 01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:15,080 Speaker 7: what are we talking about? So don't you think if 2684 01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:16,880 Speaker 7: if we're coming up with a song like this, it 2685 01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:18,280 Speaker 7: needs to be universally known. 2686 01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:21,880 Speaker 2: So like they I disagree with that premise. 2687 01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:24,720 Speaker 6: Okay, I mean I would. I would think that. 2688 01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:28,440 Speaker 2: Song that's we should make? What like, why might I 2689 01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:31,400 Speaker 2: find a lesser known band that has a really good 2690 01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:34,880 Speaker 2: and make it universally I don't we got set a 2691 01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:38,520 Speaker 2: new trend to get to work on that one. 2692 01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:39,800 Speaker 6: I just would feel like. 2693 01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:41,840 Speaker 2: If you total the Stooligans is on it. If you 2694 01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:42,720 Speaker 2: want sixty. 2695 01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:46,120 Speaker 7: Thousand people to get jacked up before a game, I 2696 01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:47,360 Speaker 7: don't think you're going to do it with a song 2697 01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:48,440 Speaker 7: that they've never heard before. 2698 01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, unless it's amazing, I don't. 2699 01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't's amazing you'd heard it. 2700 01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:56,440 Speaker 7: I don't think fifty eight thousand people in the stands 2701 01:57:56,520 --> 01:58:01,520 Speaker 7: care about like Turnstile, Hardy. You can do that to Hardy. Yeah, 2702 01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:05,520 Speaker 7: Hardy is a music like snob I like to call him. 2703 01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,560 Speaker 7: But he's going to be able to listen to something 2704 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:10,160 Speaker 7: and say, wow, that's really good. 2705 01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,080 Speaker 6: Most people just listen to the songs that they know. 2706 01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not. 2707 01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:15,160 Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean? 2708 01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:18,040 Speaker 4: We're tending to be a music officionado, but by no means. 2709 01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:21,720 Speaker 4: But like you guys are naming bands like that are iconic. 2710 01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:25,840 Speaker 4: All time great bands like no band in my in 2711 01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:28,800 Speaker 4: my time on Earth has risen to those levels. That 2712 01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:30,600 Speaker 4: was the only point I was trying to make. 2713 01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Corey. Corey says that the pages need a 2714 01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:37,840 Speaker 2: new song. My vote is of Wolf and Man by Metallica. 2715 01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,280 Speaker 2: At what point did they put Carmena Burana in there? 2716 01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:40,480 Speaker 3: You know? 2717 01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,560 Speaker 6: You know that that like kind of a classical song, Right, 2718 01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:46,960 Speaker 6: that's an interesting. 2719 01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,160 Speaker 2: Twister, multi talented. 2720 01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:51,840 Speaker 7: It's it's better than negative ducee though, I have to 2721 01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:55,080 Speaker 7: say that musical dudes, musical deuce is better than negative duce. 2722 01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:56,920 Speaker 2: But angry Deuce is the best that will probably know 2723 01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:02,160 Speaker 2: this one. Yeah, that's a good one. Very anthemy, it's 2724 01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:02,600 Speaker 2: a very yeah. 2725 01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:07,040 Speaker 6: Which one's that word for track eighteen on the eminem. 2726 01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:08,120 Speaker 4: Show Track eighteen? 2727 01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:11,040 Speaker 6: Sure, it's not seventeen, it's. 2728 01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:15,480 Speaker 2: Eighteen, Say what you say? It's track seventeen. Sandstorm by 2729 01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:17,360 Speaker 2: the Rude. 2730 01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:21,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sandstorm is like a like dubstep song. 2731 01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:22,800 Speaker 6: I wish I was writing all these down. I want 2732 01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:23,640 Speaker 6: to listen to all of them. 2733 01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:30,720 Speaker 2: Iron Man from Black Sabbath I do love. 2734 01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:32,960 Speaker 3: I mean able to say he loves for whom the 2735 01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,920 Speaker 3: belts are? Yeah right, No, those about the rock. Sorry, 2736 01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:36,640 Speaker 3: those about. 2737 01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,200 Speaker 2: About wap by Cardi B. 2738 01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:43,680 Speaker 4: I don't know that love Cardi B. That that. 2739 01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that because she's going to come 2740 01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:46,440 Speaker 2: to a game. 2741 01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:49,160 Speaker 4: Has to right the board pole. 2742 01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:52,760 Speaker 2: That was great, el Elle, says Evans. Saying that there 2743 01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:55,000 Speaker 2: aren't bands anymore is one of the most insane things 2744 01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:57,440 Speaker 2: I've ever heard. There are tons of bands, ones that 2745 01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:01,240 Speaker 2: tour the world. Even Okay, I think I think we've jumped. 2746 02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:06,919 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that bands don't exist anymore. Like obviously 2747 02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:09,760 Speaker 4: bands exist. But if I had to say to you, 2748 02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:13,200 Speaker 4: like who is the band of my generation, I don't 2749 02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:15,840 Speaker 4: have a great answer for it. That's all I'm saying. 2750 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,920 Speaker 2: That's fair enough. All right, that's and that's the end 2751 02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:19,680 Speaker 2: of the show. 2752 02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:21,880 Speaker 6: I gotta go graduate. 2753 02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:25,120 Speaker 2: I got things to do, all right. Thanks for listening. Everyone. 2754 02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Have a good weekend. Anything on the docket that we 2755 02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:32,320 Speaker 2: need to talk about, all right, Memorial weekends before lacrosse. 2756 02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:34,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, big weekend, lacrossere right here. 2757 02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:36,880 Speaker 2: I'll be here on Saturday. All right, We'll see you 2758 02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:38,480 Speaker 2: next Tuesday. 2759 02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,120 Speaker 20: Hey, this is Alex. Thanks for tuning into the show. 2760 02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:43,920 Speaker 20: If you really want to help us, make sure you 2761 02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,760 Speaker 20: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get 2762 02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:49,520 Speaker 20: your podcasts. 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