WEBVTT - New Year’s Resolutions with Kelley Flanagan

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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck at Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven

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<v Speaker 1>and I heard radio podcast Hey Suck Army. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new year of Help I Suck at Dating

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two versions of De Suck Suck Suck. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how we made it. I gotta be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how the hell we're still doing this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. I love it. You know, it's funny. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had two people coming too the coffee shop within the

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<v Speaker 1>past few days who have both said that they are

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<v Speaker 1>part of Suck Army, not even like they listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast or oh yeah, I know, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>do the podcast with Dan. They were like, no, we

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<v Speaker 1>are Suck Army. I gotta start selling like Suck Army

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<v Speaker 1>merch or something in the coffee shop. Oh yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you don't mind if I make money

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<v Speaker 1>off your likeness, I'm I'm doing it. Also, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta point it out every time there's a new

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<v Speaker 1>year and we're still doing this podcast. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth calendar year that we've been doing Help I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>at Dating. We haven't been doing it for five years technically,

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<v Speaker 1>but it started in we're still going strong in where

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<v Speaker 1>the Bothered Day Howard starts. That's you know, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of podcasts that have started and did

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<v Speaker 1>just in our life span alone. So um, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always proud to to to say that, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>even more proud to announce No, we're changing it up

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<v Speaker 1>this year in two. Each week will be joined by

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<v Speaker 1>a female guest co host to help us navigate some

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<v Speaker 1>interesting dating topics and provide more insight and give us

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<v Speaker 1>a female's perspective. To kick it off, We've got the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the best. You know or you love her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's from Peter Weber season of The Bachelor. It's Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Flann again. Hi Dot, how are you guys. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. We're excited to have you, Kelly, and Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the first guest on Help I Such a

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<v Speaker 1>Dating and we're kind of like revamping the whole format.

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<v Speaker 1>We're bringing in more personalities, more dynamics, more entertainment because

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<v Speaker 1>we all know that Dean and I we get a

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<v Speaker 1>little boring, actually get a lot boring a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 1>so we need people to like really carry our ass

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<v Speaker 1>throughout this entire podcast. So that's what we're hoping. We're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in fresh blood to carry us through. So help

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<v Speaker 1>I suck at dating is still around, Hopefully I can

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<v Speaker 1>help out a little bit. Still single over here, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>which is mind boggling. So Kelly, obviously everybody knows you

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<v Speaker 1>from the Bachelor franchise. You're very known for dating Peter Weber.

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<v Speaker 1>After his season ended, you guys broke up, and now

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<v Speaker 1>you say you're still single. So how is the dating

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<v Speaker 1>world going right now? Um? I mean I've been going.

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely been going on dates. I'm gonna keep it

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<v Speaker 1>private in terms of who we want names, numbers, security members. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you guys a funny story though. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I moved down to Miami and every time

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<v Speaker 1>I come up to Chicago, like I have to stay

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<v Speaker 1>with my family, and my family is very protective, the

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<v Speaker 1>very nosy. They're very much so in my business. So Kelsey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're and I we come up here and um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing these guys or whatever from Chicago and we're

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<v Speaker 1>like going on a double date. So my brother is

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of over here. They're like seeing us get

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<v Speaker 1>ready and they're like, who are you going with and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not telling you, like mind your

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<v Speaker 1>own business, stay out of it. And so they're very,

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<v Speaker 1>very nosy. So we're walking out of the apartment or

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<v Speaker 1>the condo and I see like the door guy following

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<v Speaker 1>us out, and I'm like, why is this door guy

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<v Speaker 1>like following us out? Like what's going on? Like this

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<v Speaker 1>is just a creepy start, Like my brothers aren't here.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to go to dinner, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it has to do with them. So

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<v Speaker 1>we go to dinner. It's great, it's amazing. Um at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, you know, I have lime disease, so I

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<v Speaker 1>like can't eat sugar candy carps. So it's so embarrassing

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<v Speaker 1>to try to go on these dates. And I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>eating a freaking cucumber and they're like you still hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, don't worry about it, like just can't

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<v Speaker 1>eat anything in this restaurant. But whatever. Um, So it

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<v Speaker 1>gets a little embarrassing there. And then at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>the waitress comes and she's like puts like this cake

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<v Speaker 1>in front of me, and I'm like, we didn't order dessert,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on? And she was like happy birthday, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your brother Tom couldn't make it, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>really sorry, and I was like, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>So now these guys are like, who's Tom, Like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>did he like pay off the doorman to follow you

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<v Speaker 1>or something? He paid off the doorman to follow Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So then it gets worse. So then these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>like who's Tom? And it's like creepy, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be Like my brothers are really

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<v Speaker 1>weird and intrusive, and they're sending us desserts and I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea how they found out what restaurant we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>So I find out that they called my sister to

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<v Speaker 1>see where my location was and then they sent a

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<v Speaker 1>dessert to that dinner place. And then I have to

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<v Speaker 1>explain to these guys. And then I get a text

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<v Speaker 1>from my brother being like knowing what kind of car

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<v Speaker 1>he drives, and he'll be like, hey, I'll tell the

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<v Speaker 1>valet to pull up the car, and I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>being like I am never going to be able to date,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm never going to be able to date normally. Like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have one brother or two brothers? Oh? My gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>four brothers Okay, So have they always been like super

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<v Speaker 1>overprotective of you? Yeah, and they just like don't approve

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<v Speaker 1>of anyone. So I just like don't like them getting

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<v Speaker 1>too much involved because I just know their disapproval it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be there, So I just don't like to tell

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<v Speaker 1>him much unless it's something serious. Have you ever had

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<v Speaker 1>a guy come up to you and say, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're brothers, like just really uh uh like scared ba

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<v Speaker 1>or like you know, they sat him down, have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>What am I thinking of? What's the word I'm thinking of?

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<v Speaker 1>Where like a brother would sit down, Yeah, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a talk with you, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like you know Michelle had. Michelle's parents had with the

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<v Speaker 1>two guys yesterday. They sit down, they have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, hey, what's your intentions? Do you love

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<v Speaker 1>my sister? Have your brothers ever done that? I think

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<v Speaker 1>in a different way, I don't think they would like

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<v Speaker 1>sit down like do you love my sister? They expect

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<v Speaker 1>every guy to be like yeah, like what guy is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be dumb enough to be like no. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they hit them on a more like manipulative route.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense, do you mean, they they'll like test them.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for example, I remember, Man, I won't say names,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe people could assume. I remember my brothers were

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<v Speaker 1>just like one of my exes was so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>like continue to go to Vegas and like continue to

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<v Speaker 1>go to like nightclubs, and my brothers were like, red flag,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I heard big nightclub guy. Hey, we weren't naming names,

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<v Speaker 1>no names here, but you know the excitement for that.

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<v Speaker 1>My brothers used to do that when they're younger, but

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<v Speaker 1>now they're at an age where they're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like Vegas, Vegas, whatever, have fun, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, like they're not as amped up for

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<v Speaker 1>that lifestyle anymore. So, UM, I guess when they see

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. I was sitting there, I was like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>this failed, Like this test just failed. Uh. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the same way too. I've said on this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>many times one of my favorite things about dating Kalin

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<v Speaker 1>is that we share the same sentiment of like never

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to go out and club or go to bars. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we go like bars every once in a while, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the nightclub scene is just not part of

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<v Speaker 1>our relationship, and I agree. It's a red flag if

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<v Speaker 1>someone you're dating is like very set in their ways

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<v Speaker 1>on that type of stuff, because it's like mostly mostly

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff just leads to bad decisions in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways, and it's an unhealthy lifestyle too, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly, Um, so you know they do it more

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<v Speaker 1>of the minibut way. And then like I was going

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<v Speaker 1>on a date here and Kelsey was staying back on

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<v Speaker 1>this one. But like the way how smart my brothers are,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad. Like they were just interrogating Kelsey to like

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<v Speaker 1>try to get information out, like being like but in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that's not just like straight up like in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that she would almost have to like mess up. So, um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard. Is that one of the reasons you moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Miami because you wanted to have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more freedom dating? Yeah. The only problem is they know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people down there in Miami to do

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<v Speaker 1>so I just never catch a break. Well, your brothers

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<v Speaker 1>are everywhere, They're everywhere. Yeah, they're like the CIA. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they have infour minutes all around the country. You just

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Miami. How long you've been in Miami for?

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been there, um for the past like a year,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just got my place. My parents were up

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago there snowboard, so I was staying at their

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<v Speaker 1>place until they came down and then I got my

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<v Speaker 1>own place, um in downtown Miami. So have you said,

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<v Speaker 1>have you noticed a difference in the dating pool between

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and Miami yet? Um? Yeah, I feel like in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been here for so many years, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>know all the people that like like to do the

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<v Speaker 1>same stuff as you. That sounds weird, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually a small city. Um. And in Miami, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there's so many people coming from all over,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's like Seattle, California, and New York Chicago, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's more of a melting pot now from

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<v Speaker 1>people all over. It's not just like Miami Miami. So,

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, I met some good guys down there. But

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta we gotta because there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>men that listen to this podcast, a lot of a single,

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<v Speaker 1>very very you know, successful men listen to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your type then? Because you know, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>there's a handsome single man listening to this podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, how do I get Kelly's attention. Um one,

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<v Speaker 1>I need someone who's like very just like intelligent, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like I I am a nerd

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<v Speaker 1>at heart, and I love someone to just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>teach me new things, you know. I I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very open minded in a lot of senses, and

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<v Speaker 1>just for someone to come in and be able to

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<v Speaker 1>teach me new things and like kind of trust their

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<v Speaker 1>judgment is something that I really value. Um also just

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<v Speaker 1>like being you know, being kind. But I also like

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<v Speaker 1>witty people because I could be very sassy and I

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<v Speaker 1>need people to like keep up with my wit and

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily take it so personal when I'm like throwing

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<v Speaker 1>little flirty jabs. Yeah, little jabs. You said something that

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<v Speaker 1>always piques my interest, which is you said you're a

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<v Speaker 1>nerd at heart. And I feel like in my experience

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<v Speaker 1>before Ashley and I got married, when I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, in the single world, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>women would be like, oh, I'm a nerd at heart,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I, thinking like, oh she's a nerd she

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<v Speaker 1>can relate, would go on and talk about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Batman begins for like a good hour and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh, I misinterpreted. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys go through this because guys are real nerds

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<v Speaker 1>at heart. Like I know, I'm an extreme Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can talk about Spider Man No Way Home for

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<v Speaker 1>about seven weeks. But when you say you're a nerd

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<v Speaker 1>at heart, what does that mean? Because I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys want to know. Okay, when a girl says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a nerd, what are you a nerd of? I

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<v Speaker 1>think just like, for example, you know right now, with

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<v Speaker 1>like I've always been really into um, just health in general,

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<v Speaker 1>like just knowing how our body works. So I can

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<v Speaker 1>go on for hours about that and just just like

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<v Speaker 1>staying healthy. Like me and my my best friend his

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<v Speaker 1>name is Chase, Like we go at it because he's

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<v Speaker 1>just like the McDonald's kind of guy. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not helping yourself, and like I can go on

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, I could research that kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and just how our body works a lot. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. Another thing is like travel, Um, I love

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<v Speaker 1>to see how other cultures live. And I learned so

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<v Speaker 1>much about myself by doing that. Um, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been like all over the world and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>coolest places I've been where more of the Third world

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<v Speaker 1>countries and just being able to see like a Ghana

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<v Speaker 1>and how they live and how happy they are and

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<v Speaker 1>how they have like nothing in their life. Um, it

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<v Speaker 1>just makes me really grateful to step back and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy crap, like my life. You know, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>be great for everything I have in my life. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>what else? I think? Like health is one traveling. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to point out that this is a distinct difference

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<v Speaker 1>between the male brain and the female brain, because when

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<v Speaker 1>you say nerd, you're talking about philanthropy, travel, health, and wellness.

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<v Speaker 1>When a guy thinks of a NERD, I immediately go

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<v Speaker 1>to comic books, superheroes and different you know, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're a big anime guy. Right, I'm not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a big anime fan, but when I think of nerd,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think of anime for some reason. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why. Yeah, I think it's just I think when

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<v Speaker 1>I say nerd, like I understand your perspective, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely different subjects. I think I like to just learn,

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<v Speaker 1>like whether you have a different profession than me, Like Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>I can get very nosy, like I'll sit you down

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be like, tell me about your life, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't keep asking questions like people are like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've kind of been known in the friend

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<v Speaker 1>group that sometimes I can get in trusive because I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to know, Like I don't like the cerface

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<v Speaker 1>level conversations like tell me about your life and tell

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<v Speaker 1>me about your upbringing or whatever, like your cool stories,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone's got a cool story, why not learn from it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or I don't know. I think I think next time

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<v Speaker 1>you get asked that question, I'm not saying the answer

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<v Speaker 1>was wrong. I think maybe you should replace the word

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<v Speaker 1>nerdy with passionate because that seems like it's more like

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<v Speaker 1>a passionate thing, but that can also be misinterpreted for

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<v Speaker 1>like something sexual, like I'm a passionate girl, Deine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it really depends on how much you like

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, whether you want to say passionate or not,

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<v Speaker 1>because then, like you said, it could be misinterpreted. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's whether you want it to be misinterpreted it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I have something, So we're gonna take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we take a quick break, I'm sure this

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<v Speaker 1>has already been out there and floated out there and

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<v Speaker 1>written about, but it just popped in my head. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have Michelle's season of the Bachelor, it just ended,

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton's season of The Bachelor is about to air in January,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course we'll have a new season of

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<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor coming when film March ap or whenever it

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<v Speaker 1>starts filming. Kelly Flanagan, you are an attorney. You're very intelligent,

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<v Speaker 1>very conversationalist. You have incredible hair. Incredible hair. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this feels like a no brainer, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why hasn't popped in my head. Kelly Flanagan,

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<v Speaker 1>you need as long as you're still single to be

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<v Speaker 1>the next Bachelor. It's like it's almost too obvious. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. Well, Jared, that is like the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>biggest compliment I've received a while. I think you may

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<v Speaker 1>if that's the biggest compliment you've received, you maybe need

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<v Speaker 1>to reconsider who you're going on dates with. Yeah, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I take that back. He's right. Contextually speaking, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a good one. Yeah, I'm not wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel very passionate about this. I think on help

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<v Speaker 1>I suck it dating first episode, we need to start

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<v Speaker 1>this campaign, which I'm sure has already been started, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just oblivious to it. Kelly Flann again, how old you? Kelly?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, you're this is perfect. This is as long

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<v Speaker 1>as this is something you'd be interested in doing. Holy shit,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the stars are aligning. I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>needs to happen right Maybe we can go online like

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<v Speaker 1>petition dot org and start a petition to get Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>as the next Bachelor at I've Suck Army this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say all twelve of our listeners would go

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<v Speaker 1>and sign it right away. We probably get thirteen people

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<v Speaker 1>who listen to this podcast just because we play on

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve listeners plus me and you, so there's fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe convince some producers to go sign it. We might

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<v Speaker 1>get up. Um I would you, Well, let's ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>would you be down for that? Let's say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fast forward six months, you're still single, but you're still dating,

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<v Speaker 1>and they come and approach you with the idea, would

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<v Speaker 1>you be interested in it? Um? I think anyone always

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<v Speaker 1>would consider it right now, Like Dean, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm trying to take care of my health.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that like um, I think the stress from

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<v Speaker 1>it all and again it was new. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>stress from it all really took a toll on me

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<v Speaker 1>and like put me in like a deep spot where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, like, my health isn't good because

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<v Speaker 1>you know the majority of illnesses are like from stress.

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<v Speaker 1>And I never really looked at it. But now looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, like, just going on the show with

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<v Speaker 1>the breakup, how messy things got. Um it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>definitely took a toll on me. So you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>next like six months, I'm doing this protocol and focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on health, but you never know. I gotta say, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think as stressful as that scenarios for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that goes through it, it's I would say, uh, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this stress was placed on everyone that was

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<v Speaker 1>on that season because uh, not that Peter is like

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<v Speaker 1>a bad guy in any sense of the word, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that he created a lot of undue

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<v Speaker 1>stress on people. So I do think if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to go on your own season, it would be stressful.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one right, but I think it would be

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<v Speaker 1>unfair to compare the two. That's just that's just my

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<v Speaker 1>hunch on it. Um. I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, so, what what is lime disease? What is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that? I never knew you had that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. It was actually funny like being

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<v Speaker 1>on when I was on the show, there was like

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<v Speaker 1>weird things always happening to me, Like my throat was closing.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was in Costa Rica. I remember getting up

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the night and like running to

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor being like, hey, something's not good, like my mute,

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<v Speaker 1>like something in my autoimmune systems like messed up. But essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>what lime is, it's just a virus um and it

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<v Speaker 1>has a shield on it, so it's hard to kill

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<v Speaker 1>because like think about it's called biofilm is the shield,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could kill it off, but you need to

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<v Speaker 1>kill off that biofilm. Now that biofilm is created by sugar,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't have any sugar carbs to essentially get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of it. But it just kind of messes with

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<v Speaker 1>like my autoimmune system. So like days I'm like exhausted,

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<v Speaker 1>or other days I just have like my throat closing up,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's just like triggering a bunch of different things

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<v Speaker 1>in me um. And so it all depends on what

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<v Speaker 1>you eat. You're saying no cards, no sugar. That's basically

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<v Speaker 1>like everything I feel like, yeah, it's not healthy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing that for three months, um, and then I could

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<v Speaker 1>start incorporating it. But I need to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>that like shield. So this is like a new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't like something you were born with. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how long I've had it. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have in their system and then

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<v Speaker 1>it get triggered. It gets triggered. I like stressed, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I was kind of insinuating. Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>from the show where I was like super stressed and

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<v Speaker 1>it just like can't make me hard, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you're living more of a stress free life nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm trying to do. I'm not I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to take a seat on the back burner. Actually, it's funny, Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people who have fine, um, you're you

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<v Speaker 1>get really sensitive to mold too, and their number one

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<v Speaker 1>recommendation is to live the van life. Why I just

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<v Speaker 1>like go to an air climate and drive around or

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<v Speaker 1>what just so you're away from like mold. Because like

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<v Speaker 1>when your immune systems down, you're super sensitive and mold

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll trigger you. So the best way is to

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<v Speaker 1>go live out of a van and nature and you're

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<v Speaker 1>good to go. And you decided to move to a

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<v Speaker 1>city where it's eighty degrees and a humidity twelve months

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<v Speaker 1>out of the year, I know I did move into

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<v Speaker 1>a new building, though I made sure of that. Nice nice, Well, um, well, okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you figure out lime disease. That sounds pretty brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, you can't imagine being restricted dietarily, like just

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<v Speaker 1>having to go to a restaurant, like picking and choosing

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<v Speaker 1>things on the menu. So I feel for you. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope everything gets better. We are gonna take one quick

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<v Speaker 1>break and we're gonna jump into some headlines real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously it's nice to get Kelly's perspective on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these things instead of just minding Jared's them opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>So stick through the break, we'll be right back. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of headlines that I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in depth with Kelly and yourself. The first

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<v Speaker 1>one I'm going to talk about because it's about Spider Man,

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing how I talked about it in the first segment,

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<v Speaker 1>why not go right into it. So Syndia and Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Holland were told that they shouldn't date, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>told this by a Spiderman producer. So Spiderman No Way

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<v Speaker 1>Home producer Amy Pascual Pascal p A. S C A. L.

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<v Speaker 1>Pascal Pascal admitted I think. Pascal admitted that she once

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<v Speaker 1>told Tom Holland and Zendia that dating one another would

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<v Speaker 1>be a bad idea, and of course In Day and

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Holland are now dating. Quote. I took Tom and

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<v Speaker 1>Zendia side separately when we first cast them and gave

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<v Speaker 1>them a lecture, don't go there, just don't try not to.

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<v Speaker 1>She said. This might seem extreme, but there's a track

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<v Speaker 1>record for the Spiderman films where the stars end up

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<v Speaker 1>romantically involved. Toby McGuire and Kristen Dunn stated after playing

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<v Speaker 1>Spiderman and Mary j respectively. Pascual says she gave the

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<v Speaker 1>same speech to Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone when they

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<v Speaker 1>played Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy in The Amazing Spider

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<v Speaker 1>Man back in two thousand and twelve. Quote. I gave

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<v Speaker 1>the same advice to Andrew and Emma. It can just

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<v Speaker 1>complicate things, you know, And they all ignored me now.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Holland and Zenda were photographed by pap Barazzi kissing

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<v Speaker 1>at us stop light in l A back in July,

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<v Speaker 1>after years of rumors that there were much more than

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<v Speaker 1>just friends. They have since been slightly more open about

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship, but still keep things between them very private.

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<v Speaker 1>In an interview with g Q in November, Tom Holland

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the importance of keeping some things for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, quote, one of the downsides of our fame

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<v Speaker 1>is that privacy isn't really in our control anymore. And

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<v Speaker 1>a moment that you think is between two people that

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<v Speaker 1>love each other very very much, is now a moment

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<v Speaker 1>that is shared with the entire world. Zendia went on

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<v Speaker 1>to agree with this, saying the equal sediment we both

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<v Speaker 1>share is just that when you really love and care

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<v Speaker 1>about somebody, some moments or things you wish were your own.

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<v Speaker 1>I think loving someone is a sacred thing and a

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<v Speaker 1>special thing, and something that you want to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>and go through and experience and enjoy amongst the two

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<v Speaker 1>people that love each other. So my question to you,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, should you date someone you work with? Um? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to take a step back and appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that you said sediment instead of sentiments. But it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, dude, Rhode Island Public School System. Do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, you're gonna you're gonna pick out the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I messed up on. I just read that

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<v Speaker 1>entire thing very well, if I may myself. Once you

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<v Speaker 1>said sediment, all I could think about was rocks and sediments.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways, Kelly, what do you think you're It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good question. You did a great job, Jared, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Kelly? There goes that van life for Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>All you can think about is rocks. You know, rocks,

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<v Speaker 1>big rocks, small rocks, pink rocks, whatever. Um. I personally, well,

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<v Speaker 1>i'll start us off here. I personally, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you should date someone that you work with. But what

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys think? I don't think you can control it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you like who you like? You know what I mean?

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Like if you show up to work every single day

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a crush in that person, like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you really going to be Like No, I can't just

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<v Speaker 1>because you work with them, Like, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's limiting yourself a little bit. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you can, and I don't think you could really

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<v Speaker 1>like force yourself not to just because you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>same work environment. I. Um So, after graduated college, I

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<v Speaker 1>worked at this job in Denver, like a suit and

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<v Speaker 1>tie office job kind of thing, and they had a

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<v Speaker 1>very strict no dating co workers policy. And I remember

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I got fired one well like the one day that

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I got fired whatever, and the very next day I

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<v Speaker 1>started dating one of my coworkers. So, um I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like, yeah, right, and it got exciting,

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and then a week later we were like, why are

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 1>we dating? We don't even like each other, we have

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 1>nothing in common. Um So, I I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would be awkward to like show up to

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<v Speaker 1>work and have to like deal with someone that you like.

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, imagine Jared, who's like, who's one of your

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.440
<v Speaker 1>ex is? Like, imagine you show up to Audrey's and

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Kayla is they're working as a barista. Just be a

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<v Speaker 1>little uncomfortable. You know, it would be extremely uncomfortable, But

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>it's so you fun in the moment. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>fun in the moment. Well, it's definitely fun in the moment.

0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 1>You can be super passionate. Yes, because it's the aboo.

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>It's something that you're not supposed to do, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do it even more. But just like anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great word, but it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that I think, again, great in the moment, but then

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.920
<v Speaker 1>as time goes on, it only gets worse. Like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're very open on this podcast. I'm sure we've all

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<v Speaker 1>had those nights where it's very fun and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great night, and then the next day you're like, that

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>might have been a big mistake. Ye, And so I

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<v Speaker 1>think dating someone you work with is fun in the

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<v Speaker 1>moment and listen, if it's like a long lasting relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>then sure. But then, like I've had friends who have

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<v Speaker 1>had to quit their jobs because their coworkers and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to date, but they just want to be together,

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<v Speaker 1>so they ended up like moving departments and doing whatever

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 1>they had to do to start dating. The irony of

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 1>this entire conversation, too, is going on the Bachelor Bachelorette.

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>That's literally exactly what you're doing is dating your coworkers.

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a show about dating your cower. True, Yes, I

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 1>like it. Yeah, other than Bachelor, have you guys, ever

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>dated a co worker? Dina, know you said you dated after,

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>but have you ever dated someone while you work together? Um,

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I was gonna say, yeah, in high school, I did.

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I was a lifeguard. I dated a lifeguard that worked

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>with me. I never have to be honest, I've done

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>long distance with all my all my boyfriends length. You

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 1>could have like a zoom call meeting with a co

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>worker from many distance. You know, it's like a work

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>from home thing. I guess I don't know you Yeah,

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if I like officially dated them,

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>but definitely when I was like bartending in my early twenties,

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I would have, you know, I would. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with someone and we would see each other

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>at work, and we weren't like officially dating, but we'd

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>always hang out after work and should stay over. I'd

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>stay over her place. So it's like that awkwardness that

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.040
<v Speaker 1>you would just always constantly see the person and and

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>it would have you would always have to you know.

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>But it's actually it's actually funny that you guys say that,

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>because now when I think back on it, like I

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>remember when I was going through law school, I told

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 1>myself like I will not date anyone in this law school.

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>There was one really cute guy, and I still I

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>still wouldn't crack just because of that. I didn't want to. Yeah,

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>what's this guy's name? What's he doing now? He's a lawyer? Like,

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, he's out of the picture. He was

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>cute at the time, he might do you do you

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>still know what he looks like? Yeah, and he's really cute.

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>He actually texted me the other day. I forgot to respond,

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>forgot to respond. This is this. You might not need

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor at this could be it. We'll see, we'll see.

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what a story, Jared. I gotta I

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>gotta ask. I gotta ask, Jared, you, as a bartender,

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 1>what was it like? Were you like winking at girls,

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 1>like sliding your number over to them on napkins? Or

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>were you starting numbers from girls? You gotta remember too,

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I was bartending a corrob Is Italian grill and war

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island. I was like a big fish in a

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>small pond, you know. So it was no, it was.

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever gave my number out, but

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>I would. I would get the numbers occasionally, as everybody like,

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who hasn't left their number for the bartender? Um,

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just like almost a rite of passage through with it.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Like did you ever like text or call a girl

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that hit on your the bar? Of course? You ever

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 1>see your exes and Rhode Island now, um no, I

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.959
<v Speaker 1>mean luckily, like I don't have too many exes like

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>xes X is. Like I've seen people that like we

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>went on dates and it's super relaxed, and you know

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>they're you know they're married. I'm married. It's just kind

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of like the way it is. But I never really

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>see any There's only like one big X in my life,

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and and she doesn't live Rhode Island anymore. Um. But

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, of course I would follow it off with it.

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Damn I had something to saying now I can't remember it,

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>but I remember one time when I was bartending, I

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 1>went on a date with a girl who left their

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>number at the bar, and it was the worst date

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of my life probably, Like, so I don't want to

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>like get into too much detail in case she listens

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to the podcast, and like, she definitely listens to the podcast,

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's obviously she's one of our thirteen listeners. But

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>It was just pretty much a day where I hung

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>out with her friends because they were having a get

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>together and so I went with them. But they got wasted,

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and it was the first time I was ever hanging

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>out with her friends and her they were all wasted,

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:31.439
<v Speaker 1>all five of them throwing up like so, all right,

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you. So we had to go on a ferry.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>So we went to Block Island. We went on a ferry,

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and on the way back from the ferry, they were

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>all throwing up on there, like literally, I had to

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>take care of her and her friends as they were

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>like throwing up, passing out. After I knew them for

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>like seven hours, I was like, this is horrible. This

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>is a bad idea. What was I thinking? And then

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>they were like we're gonna go have a fire back

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>at my place, like do you want to come? And

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like almost set. I'm just gonna head home, like

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>you guys, who's I'll call you? You know? So was

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>there a second day or was that the end of it?

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>That was the end of it? Um? All right, I

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta ask too. So last week, Kelly, we talked about

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>cuffing season. So there's this thing called dating Sunday Dating

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Sunday is trending on your social media feeds. Uh. It's

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>one of the busiest days of the year for online

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>dating apps. So it's like, basically, this dating Sunday is

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>like the dating Sunday is like two black Friday. Whatever.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on cuffing season, because we were

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about like the weather gets a little colder, all

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you want to do is like snuggle up with the

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>partner whatever it is. What are your thoughts. I mean,

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I think cuffing scenes is great, sign me up, but

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it's gotta, like again, it's got to be the right person.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Very like Picky and I would say I'm pretty traditional

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to like dating. I'm not all liver

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>bit bored. I'm not. I usually don't really do many dates.

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>If you want me to being honest and less, I'm

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>like pretty into the guy. Um okay, So you're not

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>like all over the dating apps like looking for someone

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>to like snuggle up next to the fire with no

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, when I was recently with a

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>bunch of e vachelination people, they like asked me, um

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 1>before recently, like I haven't gone in a date in

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a long time, and they were like completely judging me,

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>like completely judging me that I just didn't want to

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>go and wake up with random people all the time.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, all right, you of course it

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>was one of the guys. But he was like, I

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>don't get it. You just want to be single. I

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, but I don't want to wake up

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to like a random person in my bed that I

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>don't even like. Yeah, that sounds like it might be

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>something a guy would say, is like, oh, you just

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>don't want to have a bunch of one night stands.

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>That's weird. Like I think he thought that he kind

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:44.479
<v Speaker 1>of had a chance to. So you go to be like, bro,

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I want nothing to do with you. Nice, we'll wait

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>to put your foot down. I agree that cuffing season,

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a good time of year to find someone

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>to like be cuffed up with, but not at the

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't like lower your standards because of it, right,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of what you're saying, Yep, not at that expense. Yeah.

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I also just want to say that the girl that

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I went on a date with, even though I did

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>not say her name, was very sweet and she was

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>very kind and it was not like it was just

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a one off thing, you know what I mean. I

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>don't want to like throw her. You know, she was

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>very sweet, very nice person, just like you know, we

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>all had those days right alright. Anyway, Hannah Brown's brother Patrick,

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Hannah Brown, of course we know, was the former Bachelorrette.

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>But Hannah Brown's brother, whose name is Patrick, is engaged

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to Jed Wyatt's ex, Haley Stevens. So Jed Wyatt is

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously the guy that Hannah picked on her season and

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>then it ended up breaking it off because Jed still

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>had a girlfriend back home who was Haley. And now

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Hannah Brown's brother is engaged to Jed's ex Haley, who

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>was dating Jed while he was on the show with Hannah.

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>That's how this is all playing out. I'm shocked. I'm shocked.

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>And then I saw Jed respond and say something like

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>does he know he's engaged? What does that even mean?

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Did you see that? I did not. Jed responded on

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>what on his Instagram and was like, I just have

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>one question, does he even know he's engaged? And I

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, what does that mean? What does that mean?

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means. That's some sort of

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>dig brought this up the other day. Kaitlin was like

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>like knocked on her butt, blown away, like I can't

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>believe this is actually happening. And I guess the more

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I think about it, right, like, it is pretty like

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a big world. How many people are there? Like

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>seven billion? So yeah, one million people at least. The

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>one person that you decided to choose is like so

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>closely tied to an ex of yours. It's pretty crazy

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to think about. I wonder what those conversations are like

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>around that household. Yes, I feel like there's like a

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of things that you can bond over in the

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 1>beginning stages of the relationships. So maybe they were like

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>like just found common ground because they had a lot

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>of like you know, they knew a lot of the

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>same people. Um, so let me get this straight. So

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it's Jed's ex is marrying Hannah's Hannah's brother. That's like,

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>how do they crazy? How? I don't know, how did

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>they mean? It's definitely crazy. I mean, I'm sure they're

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like talking about the situation sliding each other's d m

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>s and yeah, but it's how like why would Hannah's

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>brother slide into Jed's sisters d M or Jed's ex

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend excuse me, way worse because she's probably hot. I

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. You know, sometimes life is that simple. It's

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>actually funny because there's a lot of the times when

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the show's airing now and say, like there's someone that's

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>like a quote unquote villain or like a bad person

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>or manipulative or gaslighting or something, they'll slide into our

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>d ms. And I don't know why they'll slide into mind,

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>but they slide into mind a lot, and they'll just

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>like tell me the deep gossip on this person and

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>how they're actually a horrible person. You know. I wasn't

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>really like asking for it in any sense, but I

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>think like if people just feel comfortable, so you're saying, wait,

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>so you're saying people slide into your d ms that

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>are like perceived as villains to know, to like talk

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>crap about like some of the contestants. Um, there was

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a guy on Katie season that was pretty like controversial

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and um, I think one of his ex

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>is like slid in to be like he's really not

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>a good person. And I was like, oh damn, because

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I may I may have made a comment

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 1>on like Instagram like oh my, and then uh yeah,

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and then it just starts like that, Hey, I know

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>we talked about you being in the Bachelorette, which I'm

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>all on board for. What about paradise though, it is

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>paradise the thing that's possible for you? No, I don't.

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so this is Bachelortte or nothing. No,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>not even that. I just don't know if I want

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>to put myself in like that stress. You guys get it,

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you guys beyond stressful, you know, And and like, I

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know, do I really think that my guy is

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be in Bachelor Nation? Like I don't know.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I could be, I could be totally off, but I

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>just this is my perceptional the guys that go on

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the show, and this is like maybe PTSD for me

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>or something. But when they go on, I feel like

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a hot girl is a hot girl. You know, she's

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>gotten attention her whole life. But a lot of these

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>guys I feel like they haven't. And then they come

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>off the show they get this like fame where like

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>every girl wants them, and you guys know how that fan,

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, bachel Nation fandom works. So all of these

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>girls are all over them. They're not used to it,

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, they want to test the waters. So, um,

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the majority of these guys that come

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>off the show, their their ego is just like driven

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>so high that it's almost hard to be in a

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>relationship with them because their quote unquote at their peak. Right,

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I couldn't agree more with You

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>nailed that right on the head. M hold on, it

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>did one. And obviously we're being facetious when we say

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>like bachelor or nothing. Obviously, you know, Kelly, do what's

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>best for you. You have no problem finding guys I have.

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I have confidence in that. I've been struggling guys. I

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>thought it'd be easier. Something something tells me that you're

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>struggling because as of your own choices, which is good,

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you have high standards. Yeah. Um, so what Jed did

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>say though, so he says, I guess the only thing

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I have to stay is more of a question? Does

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>he know he's engaged? Question mark? I'm assuming that's that's

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:22.280
<v Speaker 1>some sort of dig my copy emergency coffee emergency should

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I pick up on on the on the podcast? Yeah,

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 1>on just coffee house and lounge. They need extra melt.

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>We're at Almond milk. We need work for that. We're

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>open till ten o'clock. Thank you boy. All right, back

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to the podcast here. They just need to know what

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>time we're closing, guys, that's all It's called Google. Excuse me,

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, right? Oh god? Uh yeah, So I guess

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe he said does he know he's engaged, because that's

0:36:56.440 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>some sort of dig at he was engaged to Anna,

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and that was like the whole what started the whole thing.

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was a very thought out dig

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me just say that. I don't think

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it really works if that's pertaining to him, Like how

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>did he not know he was engaged? Like he got

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>down on one knee, Like what do you mean? You know?

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the only thing I could think of. But it

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.720
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense to my head. It doesn't make sense.

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense I think in anyone's heads, maybe

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>even not in his. I don't know. I've never got dad.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>He seems, you know, for all of his work, comes

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>like an okay guy. So he is. He's very nice.

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>He was very nice when I met him in person,

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I just I don't know that It's not

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a very good comeback, but maybe I'll have a better

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>one in the future. Uh. So we are going to

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>take another break before we get into emails. But one

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>more question, because we were talking about dating Sunday cuffing

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>season and how people are on more dating apps. So, Kelly,

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>have you tried? Are you on dating apps right now?

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what I've I've been on one dating app.

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>It's called I've been on Riya And I don't know

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>if you guys know, but I've never actually been on

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a date on ran And I'll tell you why. I

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>had it before I went on the show. Um, and

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not good on one on one dates guys, Like

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm being dead serious, Like I just think it's like

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>too much pressure. I don't want to do it. I

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 1>would rather get to know you, like your friend groups,

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>see how you interact with your friends before, Like there's

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>so much pressure for that one on one. So, um,

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>I've always had it, and I thought like the best

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.399
<v Speaker 1>way to use it would be, like, you know, if

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>there was a really cool guy and said he was

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>in town, to like message him or he would message

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>me whatever, and being like hey, like are you in town?

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I have a bunch of my girlfriends in town, Like,

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>let's get a bunch of your guy friends in town,

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 1>will all go out and kind of make make it

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>more of like a group setting. But I've never even

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>gotten there yet. And so just like in your in

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>your fantasies, Yeah, so I don't use it. Um, I

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>have it, but I don't use it. And I don't know.

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of contradicted what you're saying. Earlier, you said

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you like to get like deep down on personal level,

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>but I guess maybe that comes later on, like after

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the after the introduction introductions are made, right, Yeah, yeah,

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I just think, like again, I know that I'm very

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>like closed off when I say this, but I just think,

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like my person is going to be like a friend

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>of a friend that could vouch for them, because like

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you hear about these dates where this person is

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>like a serial weirdo or like I just don't I

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>just don't want to deal with that. So I will

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>say I went on one riot date once back when

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>I had the app. Right, is intimidating because you meet

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 1>some people on there that are like, you know, Olympic

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>gold medalists or like just like really successful people. I

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>went on one day with this girl who was like

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:47.359
<v Speaker 1>super badass, like a professional skateboarder, skydiver, did all these

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>things that like I enjoyed doing as well. And we

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 1>went on one day and it was just like us too,

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and we had zero chemistry. And then ever since then,

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm just gonna stay off for Rya

0:39:56.160 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 1>for the one it is in midating. Were you like

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>intimidated by her? Dean, Oh my god, so intimidated? We

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>like people like why, I feel like so many guys

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>get like that, Like I don't know, Okay, I'll tell

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you why. It's because she was like I'm not feeling well,

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Like let's just like just come over to my place

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and we'll like watch a movie or something. So I

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>like I was like, okay, cool, I'll pick you up

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>some to go order some Chinese food or something. I'll

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>bring it over. Brought it over, pulled up to her

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>house and it was like an amazing There's like a

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>mansion with like three cars in the driveway, like a

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>decked out Hummer, a Lamborghini, and like a Maseratia. I'm like, okay,

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>this is insane. Go into the house and I'm like

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>she's like giving me a tour. She's got like a

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.919
<v Speaker 1>skate ramp in her backyard, like a pool over there,

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>like all these things, and I'm like, wow, this girl

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>is so freaking crazy, like she's a badass. And then

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't think I like can live up

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to the expectation of someone that's like way cooler than me,

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, oh my god, I don't understand why

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>guys think that way. Like, if anything, you should praise

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that and be like, hey, this girl's got her ship together,

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>she's done great for herself. I applaud you, like I

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 1>feel so many guys that get intimidated by that, and Kelly,

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it's because as a guy, we know, like a perfect

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 1>example is what happened earlier today where it was like, oh,

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a nerd, I'm into philanthropy and travel, and you're like, wow,

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>when I think of a nerd, I'm like Spider Man,

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I am not worthy. She's going to find out that

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I actually am a loser. And that's what you guys

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>think that like every love a loser, like I love

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a loser, Kleen loves a loser. I mean I actually

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 1>super exactly. I do think Caln is is very cool

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 1>in her own right, but this girl just like, like,

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I think part of what makes me so edgy is

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the fact that I, like, I'm not scared of anything.

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, wow, this girl is even more

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>of yourless than I consider myself to be. So it's

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like very intimidating. Feel like, I feel like that's an

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>insecurity of yours that you should like overcome instead of

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like looking at as a downfall. It's kind of like cool,

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm littered with insecurity is it's something that you'll learn.

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>You'll learn that over time. Um. Also to your point

0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that you made earlier, like you like to be like

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.399
<v Speaker 1>lyddy and sarcast dick and like facetious all the time,

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm very much the same way, and I've noticed it's

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>harder to have that, like, um, it's not like taking digs,

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's like being sarcastic and like, you know, like

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>being like flirty, funny whatever. Uh. And she English was

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.399
<v Speaker 1>like her second language and she spoke it very well.

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>But I think a lot of that sarcasm is lost

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>on people that haven't been speaking English as long as

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>someone that has their whole life, you know. So I

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know that was That was my one experience with Ryan.

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 1>All that to say, so, I'm sure if you find

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 1>your person, it will be however it happens, you know,

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>they won't let anyone from like vatchination on it anymore,

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>no way. Yeah? Why? Um, Probably because they would be

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>flooded with all of us too. Probably, that's a fair point.

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Every Yeah, And I feel like it would be guys

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>from the show that would try to get in Ryan,

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>but they would be like successful actors and actresses. And

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:01.240
<v Speaker 1>then Reality TV contested that the Reality of You contest

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.240
<v Speaker 1>that it's like there's a little bit of a disparity

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>between the two. Let's uh, let's let's take a quick

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>break and jump into emails. Kelly, are you gonna you're

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:15.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna answer these emails with us? And hell yes, yes, yeah, alright,

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>so stay tuned, we'll be back. And Ashley from the

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Almost Famous podcast, it's that time of year where drama

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>fills the air. The Bachelor was back with an all

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>new season premiering January three. There's a new host, Jesse Palmer,

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and a brand new Bachelor, Clayton. Clayton is a Midwest

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>boy that has that great smile, nice teeth, and he's

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>really tall. Ash Let's call it what it is. He's

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a beefcake. Okay. Well, Clayton seems to be a good

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.760
<v Speaker 1>guy though, and he can't wait to find love, get married,

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and have kids. And he believes more than anything that

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>his future wife is on this show. It sounds like

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a fairy tale but also a bit of an emotional

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>world coaster because Clayton tells three different women he's falling

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>in love with him. Technically, he told one, I couldn't

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>be more sure that I'm falling in love with you,

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and another one, I'm falling in love with you, and

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the third one, I am in love with you. You

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>don't miss a thing. It's your years of over analyzing

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>everything that guys say. But his heart is in the

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:29.879
<v Speaker 1>right place, But other parts of him as we find

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 1>out what he admits to two different women that he

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>was intimate with both of them. Yeah, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna go over well, we'll be breaking down at all.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Almost Famous podcast, Ben is Married Now Well

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley is a mom will change our opinions of what

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<v Speaker 1>we think is acceptable single behavior. Good question. Listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Almost Famous on the I Heart Radio app on Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>help by Suck at Dating. Of course, we have your

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<v Speaker 1>listener emails listener questions. The first one comes from Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to move past my partner's past.

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<v Speaker 1>I was helping my girlfriend set up her new phone

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<v Speaker 1>and was really not intending on snooping, but I came

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<v Speaker 1>across old conversations with ex lovers that were never deleted.

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I found out she used to live with her ex

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend for a few months, and she told me I

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<v Speaker 1>was the only guy she had ever lived with, and

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<v Speaker 1>to top it off, she still had saved nudes and

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<v Speaker 1>a sex tape video with her ex boyfriend. Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that everyone has a past, but now I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stop overthinking everything and feeling like I got cheated

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<v Speaker 1>on even though I didn't. I just can't look at

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<v Speaker 1>her the same sounds so messed up. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I can let go of everything I saw

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<v Speaker 1>and red am I exaggerating? Would you guys be able

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<v Speaker 1>to move past it? What are your thoughts? Right? I

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.959
<v Speaker 1>don't necessar sarily think like you know your past your past,

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>That's one thing I think. What's probably eating him alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the lying, Like I couldn't imagine if you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the first guy I ever lived with, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you find out actually lived with a couple of other dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like, why would you even lie about that? Yeah,

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.879
<v Speaker 1>what's the point of lying? Yeah? Hart agree, I think

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>your past is your past, right, Like I would never

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<v Speaker 1>hold anyone accountable for something that they did before they

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<v Speaker 1>met me, aside from murdering someone or you know, like

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 1>some same crime like that. But yeah, the lying about

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<v Speaker 1>it really is is the frustrating part. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you like you don't stand to lose anything by telling

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<v Speaker 1>them the truth. Like if they accept you for whatever happened,

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>like that's great, and if they don't, then you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're not your person. So my advice to Matt here

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<v Speaker 1>is go ahead. You know what, I think I struggle

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<v Speaker 1>with a little bit, Dean, And maybe this is like

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>some PTSD, but like experiences that I've had is like

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that people say like your past is your

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<v Speaker 1>past and all that stuff, but I've also like just

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, dating around. It's also like it's really really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to change someone and usually their past actions will

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<v Speaker 1>most likely explain who they're going to be in the future. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that I need to like kind of

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 1>erase that mentality, but it's like almost too prevalent in

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<v Speaker 1>my dating thing to be like, hey, this is who

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I was, but I'm not that person anymore. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when you see them be exactly that person, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't I listen to my intuition a little bit more?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're not changing? Yeah, I agree, but I don't think,

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<v Speaker 1>like these traits that Matt's girlfriend are projecting aren't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>bad things. Like it's not a bad thing to live

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<v Speaker 1>with an X, it's not a bad thing to take

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 1>nudes and send them or whatever. Um, the bad thing

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<v Speaker 1>is lying, right, So it's like I I agree, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there are negative characteristics of people that you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see moving forward with them, especially if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a romantic relationship, But like simple things like that I

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<v Speaker 1>think are definitely worth just like being open and honest

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<v Speaker 1>about you know. But I agree with you, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going around and like you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you're cheating on every single girlfriend you date, you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna end up cheating again at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Like, I kind of agree with that, but

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I've cheated before, so I like to think it that's

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the truest thing in the world. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>see your point. I I see that, like people can change,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would just say the percentage that it actually

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<v Speaker 1>does is it's hard. It's very hard to change as

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<v Speaker 1>an individual, Like you have to literally want to enforce

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to make those changes, and you know a lot

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>of people aren't. Um that willing, right, I agree, you

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 1>gotta put the work in. So what's our advice for Matt? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Given all that we know about his situation, UM, I

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<v Speaker 1>would confront her. I would definitely be like, hey, listen,

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I get your past. Is your past. I understand that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not judging you on that. The issue that I

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<v Speaker 1>have here is you're lying, Like, I don't understand why

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<v Speaker 1>you had to sit here and tell me that you

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<v Speaker 1>never lived with a guy before. I understand if you

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<v Speaker 1>like try to like make it special and all that stuff,

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>but you have to understand that's hurting me even more

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<v Speaker 1>by you just not telling me the truth. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a white lie. It's not even anything that I'm

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>sure he would get really upset about but again, you

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<v Speaker 1>just got your communication skills and truly tell them that

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<v Speaker 1>you're hurt. Don't get angry with them, um and tell

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.319
<v Speaker 1>wire hurt and tell the exactly that what if someone

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<v Speaker 1>snooped through your phone and found out something they didn't like?

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Would you be angry they snooped or would you be okay?

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And just have to like defend yourself. I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm like fine with that, Like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want my location, go ahead, if you want to go

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>through my phone, I'm not hiding, Like like, I'm pretty open.

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>You'll you'll know where I stand on the majority of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I'm talking ship, it's like, well, you pissed

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<v Speaker 1>me off, you know what. I also feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>person that's going to snoop through yourself to like try

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to dig up dirt on you is not the person

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to be in a relationship with anyways,

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Like where is the trust? No, I hear you. There's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely got to be trust there, But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just try to give, like the person I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>the most security that I possibly can so they don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel that insecurity and have to like do that. And

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>again like I don't know, go through my phone. I

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 1>don't care, right, I'm I mean, I'm in the same

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<v Speaker 1>boat as you. So I agree advice to Matt is

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<v Speaker 1>approacher about the topic and just see if you can't

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<v Speaker 1>iron it out, like especially early on relationships. I think

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<v Speaker 1>like little little white lies are okay if you're like

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. But like, wait, why, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think that people are just like like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to like romanticize things or like you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like not necessarily put your best foot forward. But

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just a weird time when you're transitioning from

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<v Speaker 1>like dating casually to dating like seriously in a relationship,

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, So it's like you don't want to like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe you're right, maybe it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing. Well what what what type of what lie

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? Well, like, for instance, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know. I'm just I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 1>myself in circles here, and you're right, I'm back into

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<v Speaker 1>a corner. I think that was wrong. No, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think white lies are the worst thing either.

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<v Speaker 1>We both of y'all. Well, let's Okay, so um, this

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<v Speaker 1>is really stupid. But like even complimenting someone right or like, um,

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 1>when we talked about this a lot, somebody like if

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<v Speaker 1>I went over a date's house and they cooked for me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was the first time they made dinner

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<v Speaker 1>and it tasted like ass would I actually say it

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:02.839
<v Speaker 1>tasted awful? World, I say, no, it's really good, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Would that talk to it as a

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 1>white lie? That's good? I like that. That's a good example,

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm taking it as my own. That's a great example.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a good white lie. I think. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's like the the appropriate and then white lies.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like but also usually I hear both of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, and that's totally fine on my end, I

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 1>could agree with that. But at the same time, like

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<v Speaker 1>Sam wearing an outfit, you don't like the outfit, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you can tell me being like switch

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<v Speaker 1>it up, you know what I mean? I would rather

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>have someone be so blunt and honest with me than

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>tell those white lies. Even on the first like, say

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<v Speaker 1>it was the second date and the guy was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that shirt, would you be like, okay,

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll change it for you or would you be like,

0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:49.239
<v Speaker 1>shut the funk up. I'm wearing the shirt, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like again, if you don't have anything nice

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<v Speaker 1>to say, don't say like. If you don't like their outfit,

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<v Speaker 1>just don't freaking comment on it. What if they what

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<v Speaker 1>if you asked me, Yeah, that's hard like it? I

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<v Speaker 1>like it? Back or into a corner, Jared, you're doing

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the Lord's work right now. All right, Well, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to the next email before we run out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>From Nate. I feel like such a jerk even typing

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<v Speaker 1>this out, but I need some advice from, of course,

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>stuck Army. My girlfriend and I have been dating for

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<v Speaker 1>almost three years. Just recently, she has changed to a

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<v Speaker 1>different birth control. I'm not sure if it's her body

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<v Speaker 1>getting used to it, but she's constantly having mood swings.

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:28.279
<v Speaker 1>She's been bleeding for three months straight. She gets in

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<v Speaker 1>these depressive moods, She's been gaining weight, etcetera. Her moods

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>have begun affecting me, and I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>do or how to help her. Moods are really starting

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<v Speaker 1>to drag me down. It's impacting our relationship a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are hardly intimate anymore since she has no

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>sexual desire. I wanted to tell her that maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>should get off of this birth control or we could

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 1>try a different form of contraceptives. But I'm also not

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a woman. It's her body and her choice. How can

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I be supportive without ignoring my needs of expressing my

0:52:56.160 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>feelings without hurting hers? Kelly, I'll go with this one. Um,

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's actually funny because I've been there, and again I

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:06.959
<v Speaker 1>will Jared, you don't want me to go on rants

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:08.919
<v Speaker 1>about health and stuff like that, but I just think

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:13.279
<v Speaker 1>oral contraceptive of like things that are like throwing off

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.320
<v Speaker 1>your hormones, like feeding your body that kind of stuff.

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's things that like I've tried, I've been there,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done that. I've gone absolutely psychotic on it. Like

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I remember I was dating a guy and like if

0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 1>he huggs me, I'd be like, I don't know if

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.879
<v Speaker 1>you can hear something stupid like that. But um, I

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 1>think that he should try to convince her to get

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 1>off of it. It doesn't sound healthy. She's not reacting

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to it. Well, Um, you know some people have bad reactions.

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.320
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work for everyone. And if that's the case,

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 1>then you need to look for alternative choices. I won't

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>be on birth control because I've tried so many different

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.839
<v Speaker 1>ones and that exact same thing happened to me where

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I can't be feeding my body these

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:52.359
<v Speaker 1>like fake hormones, Like I just don't react well to it.

0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. Yeah, I think female female birth

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:59.360
<v Speaker 1>control is so flawed in so many ways. Um, I

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 1>will say that and it correct me if you guys

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 1>think this is wrong. I gotta give props to Nate

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 1>because it sounds like he's being respectful of the entire situation.

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Like even to ask these questions, I think is a

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:11.279
<v Speaker 1>pretty respectful thing to do, Like he wants to figure

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>out what's best to do about the situational that kind

0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and a lot of guys I think would

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>get angry or you know, just break up or do

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. So I think he's handling it to

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the best of his ability, which is I think commendable. Dina.

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't agree more with you because I've been there,

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and I remember just like how psychotic I was going

0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>with this, like extra pump of hormones in me, Like

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I did not feel like myself at all, and it

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>was just like it made me like go crazy. Um

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 1>so I feel his pain. I feel her pain because

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's doing it on purpose either, you know. Yeah,

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just like so stupid. Why can't like you know

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>they're saying where it's like why would you like why

0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 1>would why would you shoot out a bullet proof vest

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 1>instead of just taking the bullets out of the gun,

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Like there should be like a male birth control oral

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:56.840
<v Speaker 1>contraceptive or contraceptive is that what it's called. What is

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it called? Where you take it killed by mouth? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't know. It's crazy to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that there needs to be some some pictures with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe, Um well, I've thought about the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of getting a vasectomy. What do you guys think about that? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want kids? Ever? Well, I could like freeze

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 1>my sperm or something, but like, would you ever do that, Jared?

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<v Speaker 1>After you have like one or two or three or

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<v Speaker 1>however many kids you want? Sure, But you can also

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<v Speaker 1>reverse the vasectomy, can't you. My dad has that reverse

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 1>reverse one. I can't remember. No, I can't remember if

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you got one, I mean after six kids? Like or no,

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:36.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what my mom got her tubes tied. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it was, I think, because I'm pretty sure a

0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>friend of mine got a vasectomy and then they changed

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 1>their mind and wanted kids again, and then did the

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:51.399
<v Speaker 1>reversal and they ended up getting pregnant. Yeah, so I've

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<v Speaker 1>done some research on it. It It seems like a pretty

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>painful process, and like pain that can linger for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. And why explain, explain to me, Well, I

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:01.200
<v Speaker 1>would do for Kalin's sake, Like I don't want her

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to always have to take um birth control, Like why

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't I just take care of it in that way

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:07.759
<v Speaker 1>she can be free of all that stuff, you know,

0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>And like she she's getting her hormones tested, uh, to

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<v Speaker 1>see if she even is able to bear children. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll know one way or the other. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>also we you know, we've talked about kids. We like

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll have one, We maybe we'll have to whatever um.

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:25.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, but we could just adopt. I don't know,

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:26.640
<v Speaker 1>we need to figure that out. But I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it should be more standard for men to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of it on their own right instead of leaving it

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<v Speaker 1>up to the women to like do all that stuff.

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:33.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you if Dean, if you have a kid,

0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 1>you have to change your Instagram handle. You can no

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:38.279
<v Speaker 1>longer be Deanie Babies with a child. What would I be?

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Danie Deanie daddies daddies, it's not it's not that I'm

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a baby. It's a playoff of beanie babies. No one

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:52.879
<v Speaker 1>ever understands that. Come on, it is very adorable, Dean.

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>You really are a beanie baby. Just all You're so sweet.

0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 1>You're so sweet. All right, that's gonna do it for

0:56:56.760 --> 0:57:01.799
<v Speaker 1>this week's episode the Helm I suck at data. Um two,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a hell of a year. Huh. What's do

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys? Have any resolutions for yourself leading into this

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>new year? Having a successful business? I think mine just

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>taking care of my health, slow things down and focus

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>on me. You know. Yeah. I think you're in a

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 1>good place. And you're turning thirty and what two months,

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>So don't remind me thirties are great. Join the club,

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:28.840
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. Come over to the dark side. I'm nervous.

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm nervous, guys. It only gets better, I promise you

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that much. There has been the best year in my life. Um.

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 1>My resolution is very much the same. Take care of

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>my mental health specific well and physical because I've kind

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of put on a little bit of weight, but that's

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 1>neither here nor there. Um. All right, well, I wish

0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>us all the best of luck, and all of you

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<v Speaker 1>listeners as well. Keep emailing us I suckon Dating at

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<v Speaker 1>We hope to we hope to have its like a

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<v Speaker 1>constant staple in this podcast. Fun. I had a lot

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of fun. Well perfect, We're gonna keep doing it then. Um, alright, guys,

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