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Speaker 1: I'm finally getting over my coal from the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You can still here in my voice a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And you know what's funny. The first year Dan and

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Speaker 1: I went back in. We went back and we said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we didn't dress nearly warm enough. We

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Speaker 1: showed back up again this year, and you know what

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Speaker 1: I said walking away, I still didn't dress nearly warm enough.

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Speaker 1: I need to bring the winter hatting gloves next time.

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Speaker 1: I I brought the heavier coat, but I did not

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Speaker 1: bring the winter hating gloves. And I think I need

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Speaker 1: to do that next year. It was cold. It's like

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Speaker 1: fifty degrees. It's windy, or up in metal bleachers in

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Speaker 1: the standzel's rainy. It's really You don't think Alabama is unpleasant?

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Speaker 1: It was unpleasant. Well, how about the poor crew that

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Speaker 1: we sent down to Orlando to the Pro Bowl. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I feel real bad for those guys they got rained on,

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Speaker 1: did they really? It's like eight degrees? No, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: The Pro Bowl was like fifty and it rained all day.

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Speaker 1: And after having four home games where we got rained

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Speaker 1: on this past season, I'm sure Michael Beckton wasn't thrilled. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true. I'm sure it wasn't. I am sure also

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Speaker 1: that half that grew though Dan probably got the hide

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Speaker 1: happy at that. UM. Anyway, so I'm sure you and

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Speaker 1: Lance kind of talked about the Senior Bowl a little

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Speaker 1: bit yesterday. UM, I'll give you my my basic takeaways.

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Speaker 1: I don't think, generally speaking, it was as strong of

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Speaker 1: a group this year as it was last year. Last year,

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Speaker 1: I walked away thinking, yeah, I could see a handful

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Speaker 1: I don't know nobody. Like last year, watching I had

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Speaker 1: a couple of like wow moments. I didn't have many

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Speaker 1: wow moments watching the guys during the week this year,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I used none of the guys like

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Speaker 1: away last year. I'm like boy Isaiah winning will hern

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Speaker 1: End as they dominated the competition there. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: that feeling from anyone this year. Well, John, I think

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Speaker 1: part of that issue, as you as you have laid out,

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Speaker 1: wasn't just that the senior class may have been a

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Speaker 1: to me a lot of juniors are going to be

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Speaker 1: creeping into that first round this year. I shouldn't say creeping,

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Speaker 1: They're sprinting into that first It's like that every year,

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Speaker 1: though worse than usual. I mean, for example, one of

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Speaker 1: You to a certain extent, if these guys already added

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Speaker 1: the Junior they're coming out because they know they're gonna

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Speaker 1: Frankly disappointed me the most. Okay, I thought the pass

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Speaker 1: But Jalen Ferguson didn't do anything for me. He got

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Speaker 1: thing I want to show the UM scouts this heek

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Speaker 1: watched him carefully. John, he looks like a guard, right,

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Speaker 1: right there. It is Drew now, Drew Sample is the

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Speaker 1: I don't see him here though, for some reason. Where

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Speaker 1: two concerns from me with him, because you're right, John,

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl roster has the way in this was unofficial.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Sarge? Yes? How are you doing? John? And Paul? Hi?

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Speaker 1: right guard. His name was I hope I get it right,

425
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Speaker 1: Bo Benshaw from Wisconsin. Yes, and he looked pretty good

426
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Speaker 1: on the place that I was looking at him. And

427
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: then also Nasir Adderly free safety Delaware. Kiss on both

428
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,360
Speaker 1: of those guys where they might fall in the draft. Yeah,

429
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 1: I Adderly wasn't a mission on my part. I talked

430
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Speaker 1: to him, talked to Paul and Lance about him last

431
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Speaker 1: week when I called in. He's a good player, uh,

432
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Speaker 1: and he is a free safety. So if that's a

433
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Speaker 1: guy in the second round where the Giants think that

434
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Speaker 1: he's worth the pick, I think he fits what they

435
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: need at the free safety spot. He's someone I keep

436
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: an eye and I think he's a late one, early

437
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 1: two type guy. Um. Honestly, I was not impressed by

438
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Speaker 1: Ben Schual over the course of the week. To me,

439
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: he's a round four type of guard. You know what

440
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: I liked about Adelie in the game when I watched

441
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,479
Speaker 1: the game, Uh, it was not too big for him

442
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or film. And he's a great personality.

443
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: Then I both talked to him while we are there.

444
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: He is a great personality, what a great kid. Very

445
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: on the field, he was energetic, he was assertive, he

446
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 1: went after it looked like he was confident and knew

447
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: what he was doing. It's it's hard not to like

448
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 1: a guy like that, you know, because those are all

449
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 1: those intangibles. When a guy plays with confidence, you've got

450
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 1: a better chance of him bringing out the best of himself. Okay,

451
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,959
Speaker 1: my last point. There was a lot of talk yesterday

452
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Speaker 1: about Haskins and the sixth round pick, but there's going

453
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Speaker 1: to be a lot of complications I think for the

454
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Speaker 1: Giants to be able to get Haskins. In my opinion,

455
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Speaker 1: there's a team right behind the Giants that desperately need

456
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and if they don't make a play for

457
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles, that's the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think they're going

458
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Speaker 1: to move up to try to get Haskins. Do you

459
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Speaker 1: think the Giants would be in the same predicament if

460
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: they really believe in Haskins that they will have to

461
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: move up in the draft to get him. Um, I

462
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: believe that some do. I think Haskins will go before

463
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Speaker 1: the Giants pick. I don't know yet, Scott. I think

464
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Speaker 1: there's a chance. I don't have a good enough feel

465
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Speaker 1: for the class yet to say yes or no. And

466
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Speaker 1: Dan and I are gonna sit down today. We're gonna

467
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Speaker 1: go We're gonna fish BBK, We're gonna need lunch, and

468
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 1: then Dan, I are gonna watch about three or four

469
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Speaker 1: games of Haskins on on tape, and then I tomorrow

470
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: when I'm on Lance. Are you prepared to let him

471
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Speaker 1: brainwash you? I'm not gonna. Dad's in Ohio State junkie.

472
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: He thinks that Haskins is better than Tom Brady. Already

473
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Speaker 1: he was sending me video via text yesterday after the

474
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Speaker 1: show because he was annoyed with you. I know he was.

475
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Speaker 1: I just, I just I just relate to him. The

476
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Speaker 1: information I've been given by respectable and long time NFL minds.

477
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Speaker 1: They're not baked, They're not really high on Haskins. Here's

478
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: what I will do. Here's what to be the funny

479
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: thing about Haskins And and I know you haven't looked

480
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: at it yet, not in depth. He seems like a

481
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: guy you would really like. I'm aware of that, a kid,

482
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: pocket passer, accurate, he fits the profile. He he fits

483
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: your profile. There's no question he doesn't like to run, right,

484
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm aware of that. I'm aware of that. When I

485
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: get dig deeper and dig into him, maybe I will

486
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Speaker 1: feel different. Just went into the Johny Jeff Kyler Murray

487
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: in the second round. Oh my goodness, I'm gonna get you.

488
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: Think you're sick. How sick do you think I would

489
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Speaker 1: be if they drafted him? Uh? Here here's what I

490
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: will tell you, Scott. Uh it's it seems to me.

491
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Speaker 1: And by the way, did you see you gotta see

492
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Speaker 1: the report that came out within the last twenty four hours?

493
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Speaker 1: And I don't know how accurate it was. One of

494
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Speaker 1: the one of the reports came out, one of the

495
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Speaker 1: leading media folks said that it looks like the Eagles

496
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Speaker 1: will not retain Foals. Yeah, I'm not surprised by that,

497
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Speaker 1: but no, I did not happen. It was the first

498
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: time I had seen something that was kind of decisive.

499
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: Are they gonna try to deal him or they just

500
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Speaker 1: not gonna pick. They said that they did not have

501
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Speaker 1: the ability to even do a sign and trade. They're

502
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna wind up just let him. I mean, they could

503
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: activate his option, they have a play, but they might

504
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: not be able to fit that end of the kid. Yeah,

505
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: the suggestion was they'll let him walk and they'll probably

506
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Speaker 1: wind up with a third round competitory the following year.

507
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Speaker 1: That's not bad that that was. That was the report

508
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Speaker 1: that I saw. So if that there's any truth to that,

509
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Speaker 1: then Folds is going to be the premier QB on

510
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Speaker 1: the free agent market. And and obviously you know, if

511
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Speaker 1: you're the Jaguars, you're gonna think about them. Right. Well,

512
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: here here's the rub and I'll take this answer off

513
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Speaker 1: the year. Uh, if the Giants don't make a play

514
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Speaker 1: for Haskins, this year and where and John, as you

515
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: would already mentioned, the quarterbacks aren't really enthralling and everybody,

516
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Speaker 1: at least the ones that have declared for the draft,

517
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Speaker 1: what planned do the Giants have at that point? And

518
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Speaker 1: thanks guys, And I'll take your answers off. Yeah, you

519
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: pick one in the draft and next year. I mean,

520
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Speaker 1: I'm not I mean, look, folks, you're not gonna be

521
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: at least in my opinion. I'm not someone that's gonna

522
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna find my next quarterback in free agency.

523
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen that often, very rarely. I mean.

524
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Speaker 1: And and I'm not a Nick Foles guy. I'm not sorry.

525
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: I got into a fight with somebody the other day

526
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Speaker 1: on on Twitter about that. I'm like, guys, I'm not

527
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: a Foals guy. Now, maybe sure Mers and he knows

528
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot more about this stuff than

529
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Speaker 1: I do. And if he believes in them, I'm not

530
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: gonna say, boy, he doesn't know what he's talking about,

531
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Speaker 1: because you know, my infintesimal knowledge about how to play

532
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: quarterback in this league compared to his, which is the

533
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge is is staggering. But I'm not a

534
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: big fold guy. I'm just not. Here's the thing, John,

535
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: He's very inconsistent. I think he needs a certain system

536
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: in order to be successful. And I saw too many

537
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: times when he did have to play as many super

538
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: high moments he had, he had a lot of loan

539
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: moments that a lot of people forget. No, No, that's

540
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: very fair. But as you said, you know, Shrubber not

541
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: only knows more about the position than either one of us,

542
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: he also happened to be there with Foles. He knows

543
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: Fels really well, absolutely knows him as well as the

544
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: back of his hand. So if for some reason, and

545
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Speaker 1: while I would not do this, if for some reason

546
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: the Giants decide to make a play for Nick Foles,

547
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: you know it's because Pat Shermer made a push for it,

548
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: and he knows better than we do much been so

549
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Speaker 1: I would obviously acquiesced to that and say, Okay, God

550
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: bless the Giants have good knowledge on this, they really

551
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: believe in this, you gotta let him go for it.

552
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: I would suspect that's not going to be the case.

553
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: But if they do, they've got good reason. I mean,

554
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: that's all they doing. Yeah, And that to me is

555
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: the only guy in the free agent market I think

556
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is the other one, but I think there's

557
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: a lot of caution with him. He knows, by the way,

558
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: who knows he who? He knows really well. So of

559
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: the available for agents, Patremer does have inside information on

560
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: two of the guys that that could potentially be available.

561
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: So but again, next year's quarterback class halos to be

562
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot deeper. If Ta comes out, Herbert from Oregon

563
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: will be in the draft class next year. If From

564
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: comes out, you'll have a number of players that could

565
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: be in the mix of quarterback. Is a lot easier

566
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: to maneuver around to find your quarterback in a year

567
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: when there's more than one then in a year like

568
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: this when there's really only one shore Fire Top ten guy. Though,

569
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: the more mock drafts I'm looking at, Paul and I

570
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: know it's wait too early to take them seriously, I'm

571
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: seeing Jones and Locks sneak into the top fifteen and

572
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: a lot of these drafts I don't see it. I

573
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: really don't. But people over draft quarterbacks. That's how it goes.

574
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: They reach the quarterback position by definition prompts people to reach. Now.

575
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: I think Lock and Jones are fine as as early

576
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: second round picks. I think they're fine, but I would

577
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: not be picking them around fifteen. Let me just give

578
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: you a quick sampling of quarterbacks who are gonna be

579
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: thirty two years or under free agents at the end

580
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: of this season. If you're worried about what the Giants

581
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: might do going into two thousand, twenty thirty two are under,

582
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: thirty two are under. Okay, you're looking at case Keenum,

583
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Um. By the way, you Patremer also has

584
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: a wealth of knowledge about case Keenum. He does, Yes,

585
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: he does. I'm not going to mention some of the

586
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: lesser guys. Carson Wentz. We don't know exactly what his

587
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: situation is going to be silly and camp Russell Wilson

588
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: can't be an unrestricted free agent. It's that's what it says.

589
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: He's an unrestricted free agent. Okay, that makes more sense. Okay,

590
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: I thought after the ship after this year. So these

591
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: are the kinds of guys who will be on the

592
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: market whence. We don't know how the Eagles are going

593
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: to deal with him, but you would think, depending upon

594
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: his injury. Something tells me they'll lock him up. You

595
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: would think so, right that Dak Prescott. Prescott will be

596
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: other than that Mariota from the Titans. Decent Um Prescott

597
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: a Marriot I have as very similar Winston I'm not

598
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: a fan of, but he's a name God, believe it

599
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: or not, is gonna be yeah, And and there's no

600
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: way to Ram's gonna let him go. And those are

601
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: your better name and well that's my point. Those guys

602
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: aren't going to even become available. So now I think

603
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: case Keenum of the of the guys who you probably

604
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: could have award, he's the guy who makes the most

605
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: sense of that group. And again he's just a stop

606
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: gut guy. And he is how old this case and

607
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: he is exactly thirty, so he's he's like a three

608
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: year guy. Alright, two, one more call before we get

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Speaker 1: to John Ledyard from the Draft Network. It's coach Marvin

610
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Speaker 1: and Delaware coach Marvin. What's up? Welcome back John? Thank you?

611
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: Coach Paul, Oh good, how are you? I'm okay? Real quick? Um,

612
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: I agree, but John, I'm not a I mean I'm

613
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: in the Philly area and uh, I'm not a big Poles.

614
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: I take poles played average in the regular season, catches

615
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: on fire to the playoffs, and he performed doing the playoffs,

616
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Speaker 1: and that's all he's based His old game is based

617
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: on is the playoffs. So I didn't see much from

618
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: him doing the regular season. So I'm not a big

619
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: fan of that. But I could throw a name to

620
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Speaker 1: you if I don't know what you guys think about it.

621
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Speaker 1: But if the Raiders are really here looking at getting

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00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: at a card, what do you think about I am

623
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: a car fan, however, I do. I don't believe he's

624
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't believe he's up though. No, but the Raiders.

625
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: He has very little guaranteed money left on his contract.

626
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: The Raiders could let him go if they wanted to.

627
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: Let's see what his numbers are, um briefly here he

628
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: is signed through two thousand, twenty two. Oh boy, So

629
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: they got a chunk of dead money they have to

630
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: deal with. And it's not a ton though. Seven and

631
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: a half dead money for a quarterback is not a

632
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: lot when you have a nineteen million dollar base salary.

633
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: Seven and a half dead is not a lot. So

634
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: they could if John gru didn't wanted to move on

635
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: from him, they could. Yeah, they could. They could. They could.

636
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: I would say this, you certainly aren't going to trade

637
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: for him though, because the trade for him and take

638
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: the rest of this contract is not something you probably

639
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: want to do. Well. I mean, look, that's how much

640
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: dawn A quarterbacks make. I know, I know, I just

641
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of the way it is now. I mean case

642
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: teams making that money. Yeah, yeah, anyway, go ahead. I

643
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: just want the story's name out there that people probably

644
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: want to keep his. You know, keep that out there.

645
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: We'll see the problem is Marvin. One second, The problem

646
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: is it's not so much even if you're taking this on,

647
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: which is the going market rate for a decent QB,

648
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: but to trade for him, you're gonna have to give

649
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: up picks plus then pay market value. I would rather

650
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: just pay market value without giving up the picks, of course, right,

651
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: I know that. And man, I don't even know if

652
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: I give him give them my number six? Absolutely not, no, no, no, no,

653
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that, Marvin. You don't want

654
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: to do that now. Absolutely the Raiders will ask for it,

655
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: but you don't give that up, right. I told I

656
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: told that number two at up to it against the

657
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: wall and see what they said. They say, no, didn't

658
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: answers no, Um, but I thought you were sticking with

659
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: ELI for a year. Wait a minute, now you're going

660
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: you're going about face on me? What was that? I

661
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: thought you were sticking with ELI for nineteen Are you yeah?

662
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm with Elie. I was just throwing cards in the

663
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: name out there. I'm with you, I'm with you. Look,

664
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: but uh, if I did have to get a quarterback,

665
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: I think I want him out of the draft. And

666
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: and I think you gotta work with what you have.

667
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: And what what this guy said right now? Patkins the

668
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: best thing they have that out there, and I think

669
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: three teams know that, and they gotta be on the

670
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: Giants radar at where they're picking, because you've got Jacksonville

671
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: and people don't. They can't forget that Denver. Denver is

672
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: still within reach. So there and they and if those

673
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: three teams are frightened, somebody don't have to make a

674
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: move to get him. It's what you want to sell

675
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: to get him. If you want to give up something

676
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: to get him, and you go get him. But if

677
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: he's not worth giving up something for to get, say

678
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: where you are and then think the best player you

679
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: can take um the other thing I had. I'm a

680
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: guy that likes to look at diamonds and the rough.

681
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad John looked at um Uh Sutton Uh Smith.

682
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I mentioned him early in the year. I don't know

683
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: if you guys remember I do, actually, Coach Marvin, I

684
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: remember that and that I do. But I had him

685
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: at two forty and you said too thirty. I don't

686
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: know what whether you'd be like at two thirty A

687
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: little light I have met if he if he come

688
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: into the combine at two forty, then I think in

689
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: late rounds you can consider him. I think he is

690
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: a diamond in the row three day three. I would

691
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: I would think about that absolutely right. So I'm glad

692
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: you did mention his name that I talked to about

693
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: them early in January, that he was a guy that

694
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: I was looking at. But thanks again, guys, thank you, coach.

695
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Get better. I appreciate all Right. Now we're gonna get

696
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: to our guests, brought to you by a Corps Light

697
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: down with the Corps Light Awards after an amazing Giants Prizes.

698
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: And that's our good buddy John Ledyard, who had a

699
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: chance to talk to you for about seven seconds in

700
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: passing out of the senior ball as both of us

701
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: are running around doing various stuff, and now he's very

702
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: very kind to join us on short notice here on

703
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. Johnny, when you get back from

704
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, I got back on third on Friday,

705
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: actually Friday afternoon, I got back. I don't I never

706
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: stay for the game one of these days. I want to.

707
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: But by the time I was going to try too.

708
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: And by the time you do both weeks back to back,

709
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: you just can't wait to get home and see the

710
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: family a little bit. So I don't know. It might

711
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: be a while before I make the game, John, you

712
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: need to tell me the truth. Now. Schmolke is complaining

713
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: about the weather. He says he's got to bring a

714
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: hat and gloves and he's got to bring a warmer

715
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: jacket as he whipping out on us or is they

716
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: Is it truly a rough deal? It wasn't it great,

717
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: that's for sure. But you know I'm from b a here,

718
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: so I mean for me, it's still felt nice. But yeah,

719
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: we did a couple of live broadcasts after the practice

720
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: and definitely was not ideal. I won't give him that.

721
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, John, I appreciate the support You've been validating.

722
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: Now I have been validated. Uh, now John going into

723
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: the combine, I'm going into the Senior Bowl. Rather, I

724
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: was super excited about seeing the group of edge rushers

725
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: that word uh sweat, Ferguson Ziminez go down the list,

726
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: and to me, none of these guys did more than

727
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: what I expected, and nobody rose lift lifted their games

728
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: showed me more than when I saw on the little

729
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: bit of tape I watched a couple of games of

730
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: each guy before I got there. Any of these edge

731
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: rushers do anything for you? Or did you actually downgrade

732
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: some guys based on what you saw? Yeah? I was

733
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: really exciting to see the group too, especially when Winovich

734
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: and DeAndre Walker and Josh Allen ran the bunch, But

735
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: when those guys dropped out, it definitely lost its luster

736
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: for me. Let's just talk on while Montes went for

737
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: a second, because I know he's kind of a common

738
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: name that's cropped up a little bit and certainly fits

739
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: some of the things that the Giants would probably look

740
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: for in their edge defenders. But you know, I just

741
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: keep coming back to the fact that I don't think

742
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat has this great burst or speed up the

743
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: arc or the bend and flexibility to corner at a

744
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: high level. So if you're an edge passwords in the NFL,

745
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I just think that is the primary track you have

746
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: to win on that outside age track, and I just

747
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: don't know that he does that. You know, he's a

748
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: good football player, There's no doubt you'd like to have

749
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: monthes sweat on your team. But man, if we're talking

750
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: top Ken, you know, even first round, to me, you've

751
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: got to be a guy know that can win in

752
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: the most primary ways that an edge rusher wins in

753
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I just don't know that he can

754
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: do that. Actually, the guy that that I agree with

755
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: you on Ferguson and his M and s and and

756
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: Granderson and then all those guys kind of getting a

757
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: little bit of hype the smaller score, nonpower five guys.

758
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: I don't see it with any of those guys, to

759
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: be honest. Um, you know the guy that I think

760
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: everybody should be talking about, and some buzz has started

761
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: in his name, especially after the game, Charles the manning

762
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: you from Texas. I think this guy had a great week. Um.

763
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: I loved his tape, so I was really excited to

764
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: see him mobile. I kind of thought that he would

765
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: he would put his stamp on the week and elevate

766
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: his stock. During the week of practice he was good,

767
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: but not much hype around him. And then in the

768
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: game for anybody who watched, you know, they could clearly

769
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: see him and he was beating it. Basically every tackle

770
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: he went up against bull rushes, finding ways to corner.

771
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: Even though he doesn't have great band, he knows how

772
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: to shoulder dip until a little bit he can corner.

773
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: I were about that with Montes Sweat. I mean Montes

774
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: what was he raised in the game? Dalton rising and

775
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: completely took him out in the game. Um, And so

776
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: I think that many he was the one guy came

777
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: away from the week feeling really good about what I've

778
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: seen from his tape. But I saw from him at

779
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: the combine and mobile and Mobile, and then hopefully when

780
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: I'll see you from him at the combine as well,

781
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: we'll kind of continue to reinforce that. I really liked L. J.

782
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: Collier too. You know, he isn't that bendy quick speed guy,

783
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: but he's a guy that I think you can move

784
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: into the three technique and pass her situations. He has

785
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: good power. At seventy five, I thought he had a

786
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: real nice week. Yeah he did, and I he's a

787
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: guy I have circle to go back to because on

788
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: tape I watched three games I think, um and he

789
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: plays in a rotation, so it was I may need

790
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: to I I had actually written in my notes, I

791
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: may need to come back and watch more if he

792
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: impresses an Inmobile or at the combine, because you didn't

793
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: get a great feel for him even off watching three games.

794
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: Um so, And I definitely am going to now because

795
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: he granted out of the Day three guy for me,

796
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: and he may end up going Day three. But I

797
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: do think there's he showed he can rush a little

798
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: bit on the inside, and he's got really good at hands.

799
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: He's just not super flexible or crazy, but he's got

800
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: good hands, and he showed the ability even on tape

801
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: to win with his hands. I just didn't know if

802
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: there was enough else to get excited about. But you're right,

803
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: he had a good week in Mobile and I'm definitely

804
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: enough to go back to the tape on him. You know, John,

805
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: We've heard so much conversation how this is going to

806
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: be a heavy defensive draft, especially in the first two

807
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: or three rounds, and so many people like John said,

808
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: wanted to go down to see these All Star games,

809
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: whether it was the Shrine Game or the Senior Bowl,

810
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: and see somebody's edge rushers really shine, and it didn't

811
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: really happen. So my question to you is should there

812
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: be an alarm going off for a team such as

813
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: the Giants that's seeking an edge rusher or is it

814
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: simply put that there are a bunch of juniors, guys

815
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: like Ferrell from Clempson the defensive end, who are terrific

816
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: edge rushers and they just weren't eligible here. So there's

817
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: still gonna be a plethora of edge rushers that can

818
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: tickle your fancy in the first two rounds. They just

819
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: didn't show up at these senior games, right. I think

820
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: that's the way to look at it for sure. Now

821
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: you have to think about two things. You think about

822
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: the some of the guys that were invited to the

823
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: game and we're going to play in the game and

824
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: then dropped out, you know, I mean, um, Chase Winovich,

825
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: DeAndre Walker and uh we said Josh Allen obviously too.

826
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: But Christian Miller also from Alabama. I really like him

827
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: on tape. I think he's the top one under prospect

828
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: so there's there's stuff to like about all these guys,

829
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: I think still, and even some of the seniors who

830
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,479
Speaker 1: didn't end up playing in the game. Um, I just think, yeah,

831
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: most of the ones that ended up playing this week

832
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: weren't super impressive and weren't guys I would seek in

833
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: those in those middle rounds even at the draft. But yeah,

834
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: I think that still, if you're not gonna take one

835
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: top ten, you have to be prepared because it is

836
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: such a valued position in the NFL. For a good

837
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: number of guys that come off the board. You probably

838
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: have one or two off the board, maybe even three

839
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: off the board before your first pick. If you stay

840
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: pat um, you know, probably two, and then after that

841
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise him to see four or five more

842
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: before the Giants picked again. So you have to think

843
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: about that when you're thinking about moving around and stuff

844
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: like that in the draft. I think you have to

845
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: consider the fact that this is a high value position

846
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: and if you wait until your second round pick, you

847
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: may not get one of the top six guys on

848
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Speaker 1: the board. For most teams. Now, you may have a

849
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: guy on your board that you feel like is is

850
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: going to be there that you're higher on than some

851
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: of the bigger names, So maybe then it's a good strategy.

852
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I do think that you're going to

853
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: miss out on some of the top talent if you wait. Um,

854
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: that's always part of the adventure, I guess of drafting,

855
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: and it will be part of the adventure of figuring

856
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: out what they do this offseason because there's an inordinate

857
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: number of good edge rushers that could hit the market

858
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: and free agency. There's gonna be considerations with all of them.

859
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: Of course, age and value and things like that, and

860
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: what they're asking for, and of course some will get tacked.

861
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: But right now it does look like a decent crop

862
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: and free agency so that could also be the avenue

863
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: that answer some questions for the Giants and doesn't put

864
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: quite as big an onus on taking one early in

865
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: the draft. Well, there's no question, John, we've got to

866
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: go through free agency and then obviously there's the combine too,

867
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: So this question is gonna be asked multiple times by

868
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: me over the course of the next couple of months.

869
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: But I really believe that the odds are very good

870
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: that Dave Gentleman is going to trade up to get

871
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: another pick somewhere in the top one. In fact, I'm

872
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: even going further now. I'm believing he's gonna make a

873
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: move to get up into the top seventy five. He's

874
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: got a first rounder, he's got a second rounder, and

875
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: then because of what they did by drafting Bill in

876
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: the supplemental last year, he doesn't have a third round pick,

877
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: so he doesn't get to call out a name again

878
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: till the fourth round. I don't see that happening. I

879
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: think based on what they need, the defensive crop that

880
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about in the top three rounds, and maybe

881
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: the offensive tackles that can that can be found in

882
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: rounds two and three, I think he's got to get

883
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: another pick in the top seventy five. Would you agree?

884
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: I think I think yes, that's a definite possibility. If

885
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: you look at the Giants defense, they need to rebuild

886
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: so badly. Uh, so many key spots on the defense

887
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: in the top in the air. What's gonna happen with

888
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: landing Collins in the offseason two? So I mean I

889
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: think that, yeah, you're You're absolutely right, they need more picks.

890
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna recognize that. I think he's gonna

891
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: want to make a move like that. And honestly, the

892
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: interesting thing is them sitting at number six, you know,

893
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: with with several needs obviously, but let's say Denver wants

894
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: to jump up over Jacksonville get a quarterback, or let's

895
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: say let's say that Miami wants to jump up and

896
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: get a quarterback to you know, I think those options Washington,

897
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, you know, whether they drave the division or

898
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: not range to be seen, but you no, you're gonna

899
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: get assets, you know, from from those teams to make

900
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: a leap like that. You know, Miami doesn't have a

901
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: quarterback period, they just don't have. They're they're gonna need

902
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: to get one, you know. And I think that the

903
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: draft obviously kind of makes some sense as the range

904
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. And if you want

905
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: to ensure you get your guy, you get up over

906
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: the other quarterback needie teams. So you know, if if

907
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: you're the giant stack, could be a really desirable spot

908
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: to land. And you know that spot in Tampa Bay

909
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: spot at number five, you know, are probably gonna be

910
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: if somebody's jumping for a quarterback, they're gonna want to

911
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: get over Jacksonville, I'm sure, So you know that could

912
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: be a spot that teams want to move to and

913
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: that could and lend itself really nicely. Let's say they

914
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: bought back to ten. You know, they could still get

915
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: Cody Forth there. They could still get the exact player

916
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: they targeted at six and add a couple more picks

917
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: along the process. So I think you're gonna see a

918
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: lot to move in by by a couple of teams.

919
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: For if the quarterback neegie teams kind of stay in

920
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: place and still need one by the time things roll

921
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: around you for the draft. I mean, you could Miami

922
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: could move up and make it be a thirteen and

923
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: you could still see a quality offensive tackle gonna be

924
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: on the board there. So there's definitely a lot of

925
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: options that I agree with. I think moving back is

926
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: a real part of the Giants plans as long as

927
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: the landscape kind of stays the way that it does

928
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. We're John by John Ledyard. He's from the

929
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Speaker 1: Draft network dot Com, John Kyle Crabs who've heard on

930
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: the show before, and a couple other guys wants to

931
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Speaker 1: Draft Network back in August, and guys, I'm telling you

932
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: there's more draft content on this side than you'll find

933
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: anywhere else. In one place, it's the Draft Network dot

934
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: com and John is one of the contributors. I want

935
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: to stick on the Senior Bowl John before I hit

936
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: some general draft stuff. I know you are Dalton Risinger

937
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: listed as one of your big performers of the week,

938
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: and I agree, I think he played well. I'm still

939
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: not positive he has the feat to be an offensive

940
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: tackle in the pros. Do you see him as the tackle?

941
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: Do you see him as a guard? You know, it's

942
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: it's a great question. I think that I would like

943
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: to see him at tackle until he doesn't succeeded tackle,

944
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: if that makes sense The opinion and Server. Secondly, on

945
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: my co host Unlocked on NFL Draft, we kind of

946
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: joke around about this, but you're pretty much a tackle

947
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: until you're a guard in our minds. You know, some

948
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: guys become a guard in college and that's the last play.

949
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: A little dark for some guys that happens. They're tackling.

950
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: They go to the NFL and it's pretty clear RNT

951
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: off the bat. You know, in training camp there a

952
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: guard um. Some guys they try to guard for a

953
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: couple of years and they end up moving inside. Some

954
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: guys try tackle and try to tackle and end up

955
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: moving inside. Some guys stick there at tackles, So I

956
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: think that's kind of the process I like to go

957
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: through with a lot of these guys. Wellieses Tte is

958
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: good enough a tackle first day of practice, I wasn't

959
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: so sure than after that he really found himself and

960
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: the set points for better. And you know, I think

961
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: that he really really improved you with outstanding in the game.

962
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean and watching him against Wantes Swat both in

963
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: the regular season when the two teams played and then

964
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 1: in the game and he just handled him. So people

965
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: are high on Sweat. I feel like they need to

966
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: get rise or at least a Shawan at tackle. And

967
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: I think he's done some really really good things on tape.

968
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him get a shot at right tackle. Um.

969
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: I think he can definitely play there, at least in

970
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: spurts from the NFL. But I mean, there's no doubt

971
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: on my mind he's gonna be a really solid player

972
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: of guard. Uh same of them in there. There's some

973
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: talk that he may even be a center. Um. He

974
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: is highly highly competitive, I mean a crazy level, but

975
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: he will talk and he plays every snap of thousand

976
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: miles and Irons. I mean, he's he's a kind of

977
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: guy you wanted your team. I absolutely think the Giants

978
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: will be attracted to the skill set. Not that high

979
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: in the draft probably, but he's sitting there in the

980
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: second round. I definitely feel like if they haven't addressed

981
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: offensive line, he's a He's a guy that they could

982
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: think about adding to the roster. We we had talked

983
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: about a couple of other tackles during the course of

984
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: the conversation, John before you came on, and Dillard and McGarry. Uh,

985
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: your thoughts on those two guys, how much they showed

986
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: you during the course of the week. Yeah, Dillard is interesting.

987
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the whole Kale McGary, sorry, Miller conversation

988
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: in some ways all over again, clearly unbelievable traits. You know,

989
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: people were already kind of frothing at the mouth over him.

990
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: We're just going through drills on air. At the beginning

991
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: of the scene. While I was looking at my fun

992
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, they haven't even gone up against anybody yet,

993
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: and already your people are talking about Dillards elevate themselves

994
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: with the first round. I'm like, we're ten minutes into

995
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: the first round, people just watching him move kind of

996
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: like lost themselves. And it happens every year off as

997
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: the tackles, right, they love these big guys who can move.

998
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: But the reality is when you put on Dillard's tape

999
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: and even when you watched him in the game and

1000
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: mean the game, he got beat a couple of times,

1001
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: and practicing the one he wants, even that first play,

1002
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: he got beat a couple of times. So he's his

1003
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: biggest issue is finding kind of the proper range in

1004
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: his set points. UM. I watched an interview with him

1005
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: with with our turner or covered one who covers the bills,

1006
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: and one of the things he said in the interview was,

1007
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: I just started doing different pass sets this past season,

1008
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: his final season at Washington, a senior year. He really

1009
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: had never done anything different with his passet. So his

1010
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: footwork is still really coming along in terms of establishing

1011
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: that half man relationship with opposing edge rushers and kind

1012
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: of getting first contact and winning. His hands are late sometimes,

1013
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: so he's really kind of project to build on. Um.

1014
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: You know, there are certain teams that you can definitely say, oh,

1015
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna be like they're gonna like him

1016
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: because they love athletic offensive tackles and they feel like

1017
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: you can addressed the rest and developed the rest of

1018
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: the player, and I just I think that that's easier

1019
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 1: said than done. There are certain landing spots. I feel

1020
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: really good about Dillard. There are certain landing spots I

1021
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: would be I would be a little bit skeptical and

1022
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: scared about, you know, what he might become in the NFL,

1023
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: because the power really does give him issues and and

1024
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of really good

1025
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: add rushers in the NFL with their hands. So that's

1026
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: kind of my thoughts on Dillard. But for McGary, he

1027
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: actually had a pretty decent week. I felt like on tape,

1028
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: I thought this guy was definitely a guard, you know.

1029
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: I I thought that he just struggled to reach their

1030
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: step points. Speed really gave him issues. Um I think

1031
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: that even if you watch the one on once the

1032
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: last day, guys started trying to beat him around the

1033
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: edge and he really just didn't have the footwork to

1034
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: kind of get back there in the last day of practice,

1035
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: and so I think that, um, he is a mahler.

1036
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: When he gets a guy right, you know, he's buried

1037
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: a couple of people on his tape. But then at

1038
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: the same time, he plays so high he'll lose leftwards

1039
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: a lot of time and fall off block. So I

1040
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: didn't love his tape, To be honest, I think he

1041
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: might have a better career at guard in the NFL.

1042
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: But he is really physical and if he grips you up,

1043
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean his hands. He knocked a bunch of guys

1044
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: on the back side during Mobile and so I was

1045
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: impressed by that. But I thought he had a pretty

1046
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: decent week for himself, honestly, but his cape. I have

1047
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: a lot more concerns about joined by John Ledyard from

1048
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: the draft. Nowwere John about two other things in the

1049
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, and then we'll do a couple of general

1050
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: draft things with you here. Uh, that's you're Adelie, a

1051
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: guy who you know that single high free safety is

1052
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: really becoming a unicorn in the NFL. Everybody needs them.

1053
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to play that cover three, but few teams

1054
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: actually have the player that complete that single high safety role.

1055
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: Is that how you see him at the NFL level? Yeah? Absolutely,

1056
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the best spot for him. I came

1057
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: into the week thinking he was really, really persatile and

1058
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: because he had played corner early in his down career,

1059
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: and then they put him in man coverage the whole week,

1060
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: and I thought the results were pretty mixed. I mean

1061
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: not not didn't do great against wide receivers. I think

1062
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: the athleticism is there. I just don't think technically his

1063
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: footworks where it needs to be to play a lot

1064
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: of man in the slot right away. So a good play,

1065
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he's His tape at safety is just awesome.

1066
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: I know it's FCS level competition, but they go you

1067
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: can just tell the guy's a free athlete. He goes

1068
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: up and gets the ball. He's unbelievable, all skills, has

1069
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: made some insane interceptions during his career. Delaware, he can

1070
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: absolutely run. I think he's gonna run the four force.

1071
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 1: To be honest. Um, his size is people talk about

1072
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: as an issue. I don't. I mean, he has built.

1073
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: There was no quoe and he walked out on the

1074
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: stage for the Way ends. I was like, this guy

1075
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: has built man like he he know he's clearly spent

1076
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: some time in the wing room. So UM, I don't

1077
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: really get worried about that aspect of the evaluation. Super

1078
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: physical Um the only thing. He has man coverage, and

1079
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: I wrote down on my notes when I did his

1080
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: report that that was kind of the big question because

1081
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: he didn't see him in man coverage in the last

1082
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: two years at Delaware. He liked his traits, but you

1083
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: didn't really see him there. I still like his traits.

1084
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: I think he can develop in that way. He did

1085
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good job against tight ends this past weekend Mobile,

1086
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: but in zone coverage when I had him back, yeah,

1087
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: that's when you really saw the trade shine. And um,

1088
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I thought, I think he does a really nice job there.

1089
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: And I mean, you've for me, he's the top safety

1090
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: in this class, and um, I know it's not maybe

1091
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: the greatest safety class, but I don't know whether it

1092
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: will be your first round pick or not, just because

1093
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: of the small school thing. But if you played their

1094
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: power five school, it would be a lock top twenty

1095
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: pick in my opinion. John final thing for me on

1096
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl wide receivers, I didn't have any expectations

1097
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: for the groups when I got out there, but I

1098
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: saw some things that actually pretty that that impressed me.

1099
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: I thought Samuel played well. I thought McLaren from Ohio

1100
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: State really helped himself and then you did two smaller guys, uh,

1101
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: Penny Harden in the Isabelle I thought showed that they

1102
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: can separate as well as anybody. What do you think

1103
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: of the wide receiver group? Yeah, such a good group, man.

1104
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: It was really a fun group. This wide receiver class

1105
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: in general. You know, people are kind of looking for

1106
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: like a couple of Calvin Johnson's or something, and you're

1107
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: just not gonna get that. I mean, maybe next year's

1108
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: wide rezero class still get that. That group is going

1109
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: to be insane. But this year's class, I mean, I

1110
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: think it's just so good. It's so deep. There's so

1111
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: many different options for different types of players, so you

1112
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: can find I mean, almost every receiver in Mobile I

1113
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: think is going to play at the NFL level, and

1114
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: I think the majority of them could be a top

1115
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: three receiver for a team in the NFL. I really

1116
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: liked the group you mentioned. You know, four of the

1117
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: top guys I thought that stood out. The other guy

1118
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: had at the list to Kobe Meyers from NZ, he

1119
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: stayed kind of a big, flat type, really quick feet

1120
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: on good footwork. He's converted quarterback who's playing wide receiver,

1121
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: has been a wide receiver this was his third year

1122
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: I think at the position, and he he was such

1123
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: a good player of friends. He stayed this past season

1124
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: chain mover in a possession role underneath that didn't go

1125
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: vertical very often, but almost every time he went down

1126
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: the field, corners, posts or vertical routes are just nine routes.

1127
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: You know, this guy made plays on the ball. He

1128
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: found the football, he had just sat outside his frame.

1129
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: He elevated over context. So I just I think his

1130
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: skill set is really really fun. Um. I thought he

1131
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: just absolutely shrinted the Money or Warrior the first day

1132
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: with a lot of people had as the top corner

1133
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: in mobile and um, I think he's put some really

1134
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: good stuff together on tapes two. So I think he's

1135
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna sneak in to day two and he's to be

1136
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: a really solid pick for a team. Well, we've got

1137
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: about a month or so to the combine, John, and

1138
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: we'll certainly see you out there. Let me ask you this,

1139
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: are there two or three guys who you didn't get

1140
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: a chance to look at over the course of the

1141
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks at the Shrine Game or or

1142
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl who you really really need to

1143
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: get a good look at at the combine because you

1144
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: just all ensure exactly where you want to grade them.

1145
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean there's there's always a couple of

1146
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: guys like that. I feel like every single year, I'm

1147
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: trying to think off the top of my head. There's

1148
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, two guys that kind of stood out to

1149
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: me recently, well at the Senior Bowl actually that I'm like, man,

1150
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: I need to watch these guys. I need to watch

1151
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: them tate more. I need to see how they test,

1152
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: you know. And Lonnie Johnson from Kentucky. I watched Kentucky

1153
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: live a lot this season because I was covering the

1154
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: sec for our site, and I just I did. I

1155
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: thought he was a good athlete. I didn't think it

1156
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: was great or anything. And um, you know, I think

1157
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: that his tate really left a ton to be desired.

1158
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: He hardly made any plays on the ball during his

1159
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: time at Kentucky, so I liked a lot of what

1160
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: he showed though. In mobile, I thought that he played really,

1161
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: really well. He uses length to contest windows and kept

1162
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: kept himself square, didn't flip too early, and I was

1163
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: able to mirror receivers for the most part. So I

1164
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: was impressed with him in Mobile. I gotta go back

1165
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: to the tape. I think he recently sent in an

1166
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: interview that he's certain he's going to go in the

1167
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: first round, and that would be a surprise to a

1168
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: lot of votes, but I like the confidence anyway, So

1169
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: he's one have to watch. And then Eric McCoy, I

1170
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: guess that the testing is less important, maybe to combine

1171
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: that part of the testing the center for Texas A

1172
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 1: and M. But at the Senior bo he really stood

1173
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: out to me a really good player. Maybe have some

1174
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: guard center for satility, um, but yeah, he was. He

1175
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: was tough man. Guys couldn't move him, they couldn't get

1176
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: by him. He was super super physical. Um. So I

1177
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: really liked when I saw from him. I did not

1178
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: see much of him during the season, so I've definitely

1179
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: got to get some more of his tape and I

1180
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: am interested to see how he moves in the drills,

1181
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: at least at the combine and try and get a

1182
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: good look at him there because his mobility and athleticism

1183
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: probably will be the question mark, but certainly seemed pretty

1184
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: functional in that area from what he I saw in Mobile.

1185
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: So I haven't seen and what you want by John

1186
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: led you from the draft that work next cough few

1187
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: more minutes. I haven't seen this so much disagreement on

1188
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: the top of an offensive tackle class in a while.

1189
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: Some people I know of John Williams is the top

1190
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: ten guy. Other people have him as a second round guy. Uh.

1191
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: Some people think the little kid is going to be

1192
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: a great player. Some people have him as a second

1193
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: round guy. How do you see the top of the

1194
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: class at offensive tackle here? And and how good is

1195
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: the group? Where do you think they're gonna fall on

1196
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: that first round? Yeah, it's a super talented group, there's

1197
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: no denying that part. I think it's it's in terms

1198
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: of raw talent, I mean little and Joan Taylor and

1199
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: h Cody Ford and um, you know Jona Williams you mentioned,

1200
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: probably the most polished guy. And I think some of

1201
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: it is people, you know, just trying to find something new.

1202
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: I think at this point, and we saw guys that

1203
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: stood out like Dillard and Chuma Udoga from USC were

1204
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: really good. Chimadoga was really good at the at the

1205
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl as well. You know, y'all need could choose

1206
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: from West Virginia, David Edwards from Wisconsin. I mean it's

1207
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: such a talented group. We haven't even gotten to mcgarrey

1208
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: and Titus Howard, UM and UH. And I think Dennis

1209
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: Daily from South Carolina could be a mid round pick

1210
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: that develops into a starter. So there are just so

1211
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: many talented players in this class. The problem is not

1212
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: many finished products, which is honestly becoming kind of the

1213
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: norm when he comes out when he's got to come

1214
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: out college. So I think it's about finding the traits

1215
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: that you really like, the mental processing and kind of

1216
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: above the neck type of mentality that you really like,

1217
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: and trying to make the most side of whatever skill

1218
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: set you get. You know, with a lot of these

1219
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: guys so UM, I think Jone Williams is the surest

1220
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: thing of the group. For sure, at one position or another,

1221
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: he's going to be a stud. I really really like

1222
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: Cody Ford. I think he can be a right tackle

1223
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL. UM even if not there, he's gonna

1224
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: be a dominant guard on the inside. So I feel

1225
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: really good about those two. The guys who were inconsistent

1226
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: are Juwan Taylor, who has brilliant flashes UH and Greg

1227
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: Little is kind of just all up and down. I

1228
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: don't think he's his highs are as high as Jowan

1229
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: Taylor's UM, so I might be tempted to end up

1230
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: having too are higher but little as this pedigree. And

1231
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: you know he got better this past season, but there's

1232
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: still so much to work on. You know, there's still

1233
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: some reps that really concern you with him. So it

1234
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 1: is honestly going to be so much about landing spot

1235
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: for all these guys, you know, where they end up,

1236
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: who develops them. We've seen players that we didn't think

1237
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat. You know. Jack Conklin was an example

1238
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: of a player that Tennessee brought along really nicely over

1239
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: his first couple of years and helped him along and

1240
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: gave him lots of help and pass protection. He had

1241
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: all kinds of technical flaws on pate, but he was

1242
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: decently out. He was athletic enough to make the position

1243
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: work um and he he wanted it. Guy was super

1244
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: super physical and super aggressive and hard working. So you know,

1245
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: it's about finding that combination of traits I think with

1246
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that you can build on,

1247
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: and then getting the coaching and the scheme around them

1248
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: to helpmate the most of what they do offer. On

1249
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: tape John, This may be more of a curiosity than

1250
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: a legitimate question, because you know, John has said to

1251
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: me many times we've had this conversation that you know,

1252
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: these college programs with the three point stance and all

1253
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: the things that they're doing with their spreads, and they're

1254
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: not running power running games. And obviously the NFL coaches

1255
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: are like, well, we got to translate this into our game.

1256
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: It's a big deal. But is it also a big

1257
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: deal to project if a guy's gonna as well not

1258
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: only learn the skills that he needs to play tackle

1259
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but also if he's got to play

1260
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: right tackle instead of left tackle, Because now you're talking

1261
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: about not only learning the pro game, but you're also

1262
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: turning about talking about in some cases swapping sides. And

1263
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: I just wonder how much of how much of a

1264
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: projection do you have to do when you're looking at

1265
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: a guy like that. For example, the Giants have Nate Solder,

1266
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: who's getting a lot of money to play left tackle.

1267
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: So if the Giants want to draft a tackle, are

1268
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Speaker 1: they looking perhaps at a left tackle who they need

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00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: to convert to right tackle when he gets to East Rutherford,

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Speaker 1: Or are they looking at a guy who's played right

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00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: tackle in college because that's where he's comfortable. Right. I

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00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: wish there was an easy answer to this because it

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00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: would help me so much as an evaluator. Okaye, So

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00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: my curiosity is actually warranted, right, Oh, very warranted. Yeah,

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's something that a lot of these

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00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: NFL teams have to go through. You know, let's look

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00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: at Cody Ford for example, the experiences that are right tackle.

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00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: Clearly he's played some inside I think traits wise, I mean,

1279
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: here's the thing, the difference between playing right and left

1280
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: tackle is there isn't one in today's NFL. You know,

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00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: you're you're arguably gonna face tougher assignments at right tackle

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00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: and you will left tackle. You know, the day and

1283
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: age of the quarterback can see it coming. Well, that

1284
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 1: doesn't help you any you know, you can see it coming.

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00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: He's just gonna be more skittish in the pocket. So really,

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00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, there's just no difference between

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00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: your right tackles should be paid the same as left tackles.

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00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: In my mind, I know some teams think that they

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00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: need a little bit more of a run heavy guy

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00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: at right tackle, depending on their scheme. That may be true.

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00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: You know, maybe there are certain schemes that are built

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00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: like that, But honestly, in my opinion, I just think

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00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: you need two good tackles, period, And so yes, with

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00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: some of these guys, I have no idea how they'll

1295
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: do because sometimes when you switch them sides, they're going

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00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: with a with a different foot it's completely different. For

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00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: it's completely different and work. You can ask any of

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00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: these guys and they'll say it's very different. So what

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00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: most of these guys do is they'll train at both sides. Uh,

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00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: They'll try and work at both sides. In fact, that

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00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: was something Dillard said, uh and talked about in that interview.

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00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: I mentioned that his training was he was training on

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: the right end, left side so that he could show

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00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: that versatility and NFL team I think that's something a

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00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: lot of these guys will do. But again, you're only

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00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: getting a look at some of these guys will never

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00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: played on a different side than where they're playing uh

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00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: this past season. So teams will look at both tape.

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00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, but a guy might have played

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00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: left tackle early in his career and then you know,

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00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: right tackle later. So yeah, the safe bet is to

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00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: take a guy who looks great at right tackle because soldiers,

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00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, playing probaying well left tackle, but he won't

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Speaker 1: last forever. And you would love to find a guy

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00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: that can maybe do a little bit of both and

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00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: switch sides, But it's a lot easier said than done.

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00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: And I think finding the side that the player is

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00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: most comfortable at. Who are the players at their best?

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00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: That is kind of the goal in my mind. So

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00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, that's where I would I would like to

1321
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: see teams evaluate guys in that way, but I understand

1322
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: that it isn't always the case. They haven't needed a

1323
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: certain position, and so they draft the best tackle on

1324
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: the board, and maybe that means that the guy's switch sides,

1325
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: And at that point it really it leans heavily on

1326
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: coaching and the player's natural ability and how easy it

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01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: is for him to kind of be ambidextrous in that

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01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: way and then switch sides and still feel comfortable with

1329
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: a different dominant hand and a different dominant foot. John

1330
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: final question, and I buried the lead. This is how

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01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: you keep people tuned in by not asking about the

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks first and last. So I wonder, so here it

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01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: comes you can touch on the Senior Bowl guys if

1334
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: you like to me, Uh, and I know quarterbacks got overdrafted.

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would take any of the Senior

1336
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Speaker 1: Bowl guys in the first round. I know, I'm sure

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01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: they will, I'm not sure I would do it. Um,

1338
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: how high do you guys have Haskins ahead of those players?

1339
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: How good do you think Haskins is gonna be? And

1340
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: then Kyler Murray, just give me your long winded wrap

1341
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: up of the quarterback class and kind of where you

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01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: think you have these guys with. Obviously, uh, a lot

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01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: of work still to do before teams have to make

1344
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: these decisions. Yeah, I would be pretty surprised if Haskins

1345
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: and Murder weren't my top two quarterbacks. I'm with you.

1346
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: None of the Senior Bowl guys deserve to be first

1347
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: round picks. Drew Lock will be. I don't think Daniel

1348
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: Jones is a lock to be a first shound pick

1349
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: than many other people. I think that he is. But yeah,

1350
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: I think that you're going to see Drew Loco in

1351
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: the in the first round, while while Daniel Jones kind of,

1352
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, watch out for the Raiders to back into

1353
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: the first But I don't know that he's as coveted

1354
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: as we've kind of that the narrative is as a

1355
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: guest that anyway. But with Murray, I mean, yeah, it

1356
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: would be shocking to me to see a traditional team,

1357
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, a team with a kind of I mean

1358
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: you can say old school run, old school general manager.

1359
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's clearly what we have Gaston running back

1360
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: number two. You know, builds on builds on the lines first.

1361
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: You know that that type of mindset to take in

1362
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: a you know, and and a guy that's been a

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: head coach for a long time and saremoan different spots

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01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: to take uh Kyler Murray. You know, really it's completely

1365
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: innovative and creative move that would honestly set a new

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: precedent for the NFL and how they evaluate quarterbacks. I mean,

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01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: we've never even had a guy in this small in

1368
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: the conversation around one um, you know, let alone the

1369
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: fact he's a one year starter from the Big twelve

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01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: where they play no defense from a system that's currently

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly. And o' baker did a lot with it.

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01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: Obviously him go on number one helps, But yeah, I

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01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: still think that that would be a crazy evaluation to

1374
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: see the NFLP you know, top ten high on him,

1375
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: like we've seen suggests at some places. So I'll push

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01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: back a little bit on that and say, I think

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01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's a really interesting player. Uh. He is incredibly

1378
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: athletic and has an incredible arm. But um, it's gonna

1379
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: take a lot of tape study for me to kind

1380
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: of look at him and say this is a guy

1381
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: who want to want to stake my franchise to and

1382
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: and take that risk with. I'm just not sure. Um,

1383
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: he's that caliber of a player at this point in

1384
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: his career, and his development will certainly matter. I don't

1385
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: really see the Giants being a being a team that's

1386
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: interested in him. Um, there will be some teams, but

1387
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't think there'll be one of them. I think

1388
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: they will be interested in Dayne Haskins to a degree

1389
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: at least still do their homework. I think they've been

1390
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: pretty Adam and a body Eli Manning obviously, But let's

1391
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: say for argument's sake that they want to move in

1392
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: the direction of a quarterback. You know, Haskins to me

1393
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: is the one that makes the most sense. Um might

1394
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: make sense to play up their interest in him, just

1395
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: to drive up you know the cost for that spot,

1396
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: uh if the team wants to trade up to try

1397
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: and get there. So, um, I think at the very

1398
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: least we'll see some smoke screens about Askets to the Giants.

1399
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: But he also fits Patchrmer's offense. He does, you know,

1400
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: he makes a lot of sense. You know, they can

1401
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: he can distribute the ball shorts intermediate, and he has

1402
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: the tools at least to be able to get shots

1403
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: down the heil when you need it. I didn't think

1404
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: he was a very good vertical ball passer at Ohio State,

1405
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: but um, he's pretty accurate shorts intermediate. There are issues

1406
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: against pressure, you know, so that's going to be a concern,

1407
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: but I think there's enough skills there to say this

1408
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: is I would be surprised if Askins isn't the first

1409
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: quarterback off the board John real quick. I would talking

1410
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: to the guys over a Pro Football focus, the one

1411
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: big knock they had on Haskins was that they didn't

1412
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: think he hand pressure that well in terms of pass

1413
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: pressure in the pocket, and then he he kind of

1414
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: struggle a little bit once he had some guys in

1415
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: his face. Did you see that too in the tape

1416
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,959
Speaker 1: that you watched. Yeah, absolutely, and I think it's something

1417
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: that comes, you know, as you grow as a quarterback

1418
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: one year starter, it's gonna make it hard to know

1419
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: how much to how much stock to put in that

1420
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: f asking. But no question as pasture on tape, that

1421
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: was a concern with them. And how he handles pressure

1422
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: being somebody who isn't a great athlete, how he handles

1423
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,959
Speaker 1: pressure is going to be really big and evaluation whether

1424
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: teams feel like he can grow in that area. I've

1425
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: got one final quick one for you, John, and that

1426
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: is for all these folks who continue to beat the

1427
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: drum for a quarterback and saying the Giants have to

1428
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: take Haskins at six. Where would he have been if

1429
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: he was in last year's quarterback class where we saw

1430
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: five first round picks taken on a quarterback. I'll be

1431
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: honest with you. I got a forty year veteran person Olga,

1432
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: who said to me, value wise, Haskins a mid second

1433
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: rounder for me in terms of his true value. But

1434
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: he'll be drafted in the first round. But he's a

1435
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: mid second round value because I don't think there's enough

1436
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: there to make him a blue chip first round prospect.

1437
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: That's what he said to me. Now, I'm not gonna

1438
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: tell you what it is because he you know, he

1439
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: didn't want me to tell anybody. But that's what i'm

1440
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: that's what I've been told. Oh yeah, no, I completely

1441
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: agree with him. I think he's absolutely right. I think

1442
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: doing the vacuum, that's probably where my grade on Haskins

1443
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: will be. But you're right that the value of the

1444
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: position at quarterback will drive these guys up the board,

1445
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: and your Haskins will get driven up the board just

1446
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: because of the value of the position at quarterback and

1447
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: the need and the fact that he's the best option available.

1448
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would, honestly, as much as I was

1449
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: Giant should take the quarterback last year at this point

1450
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: for the Giants, you know, I would honestly probably build

1451
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: up the rest of the roster and get the rest

1452
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: of the roster in shape and and go select the

1453
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: quarterback next year's class when the crop looks a little

1454
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: bit better. Because if you played going that high, you're

1455
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: tying yourself to him, You're tying you're frantasized to him.

1456
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: And um, I don't know that I feel I don't

1457
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: feel that strong. I know, I don't feel that strongly

1458
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: about Haskins to make a move like that. You know

1459
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: he's a good player, but is he going to be

1460
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: a transcendent player that can carry your team, you know,

1461
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: you carry your franchise to the next level. I don't

1462
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: think so. So, Yeah, I'm with you. I think that

1463
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: waiting it out is probably the best strategy, and and

1464
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: and and comparing him to last year's class, I would

1465
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: probably have had m Q before, behind Rosen and Baker

1466
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: and and then Donald Um. I would have probably had

1467
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: m Q before. And you could certainly make the argument

1468
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: Josh Alan's tools are a lot better. And I know

1469
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: Alan did some decent things this past season, but you know,

1470
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: on ta Paskin is a better player, and I probably

1471
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: have been a little bit worried of taking a risk

1472
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: on on where you know where Haskins would have felt

1473
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: like a safer option to me. But still probably Q

1474
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: before when you compare them to last year's group. John

1475
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: good stuff. Tell the folks about the Draft network dot

1476
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: com and you guys a lot of exciting stuff coming

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Speaker 1: down the pike. Yeah. Absolutely. February it's the Monday of

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Speaker 1: the seniorble Our combined week. We're launching kind of relaunching

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Speaker 1: the whole site. It's gonna look different. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a million times better. It's gonna look a million times better.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna have mock draft machine and build your

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Speaker 1: own big board. They're gonna be teachers. You can go

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Speaker 1: and you can mock draft or whatever team you want.

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Speaker 1: The full simulator. You can draft all seven rounds. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be really aesthetically pleasing. You're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: cook on players names and get slideouts and full scouting

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Speaker 1: reports and notes and things like that. Uh. And then

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Speaker 1: to build your own big board. You're gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to go and you can make them own big board.

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Speaker 1: You can make positional big boards if you want positional

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Speaker 1: board stature, position rankings. You can save them all under

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Speaker 1: your name, just a real quick profile and everything. And

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Speaker 1: it's all for free, and you know you can. People

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Speaker 1: are gonna be able to go in and use that

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Speaker 1: and save and come back to and alter it, do

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff with it throughout the draft process.

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Speaker 1: So those interactive tools plus all the content you're getting

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Speaker 1: right now, it's got to be gonna be a fun time.

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Speaker 1: Over at the Draft Network on February you know, John,

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Speaker 1: I already popped you guys on Twitter last week. I

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Speaker 1: know you saw it. I think your site is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. I recommended to everybody and if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make it better, well this guy is the limit.

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Speaker 1: So we wish you the best of luck with absolutely

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Really appreciate the shout out. You

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Speaker 1: guys have always been great. Definitely appreciate the support. Thanks John.

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Speaker 1: We'll see it at the combine. Sounds great. Thank guys.

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Speaker 1: John Ledyard from the Draft Network dot com And again,

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Speaker 1: guys go to the website. Uh, look, everyone disagrees on

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Speaker 1: take sometimes and you're like, I think that's stupid ranking whatever,

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Speaker 1: But these guys do the work. This is their job,

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Speaker 1: full time job, and they do a real good job

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Speaker 1: of it. So there's a ton of draft content you

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Speaker 1: don't I like about it. John. They have a number

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Speaker 1: of guys who are their analysts and so, like you'll

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Speaker 1: go to a prospect and there'll be two or three

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Speaker 1: different scouting reports from their scouts so that you can

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Speaker 1: read the different opinions till you'll get maybe some strengths

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Speaker 1: and weakness. Is different opinions, different perspectives, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's important, and that is very important. You can't just

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Speaker 1: listen to one guy and they have uptable big boards

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Speaker 1: and mock drafts from the different contributors, so you see

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Speaker 1: how and they're all all very different, like they have

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Speaker 1: disagreements on some guys like some guys some guys like.

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Speaker 1: It's the same type of arguments we have here on

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Speaker 1: the air exactly. So that's that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why I really like it. And John just went up

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Speaker 1: how many levels in your book because of his opinion

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Speaker 1: on Haskins. He was already very high. Well, he kind

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Speaker 1: of dissed Josh Allen a little bit. You know, that

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Speaker 1: was my guy last year. But it's okay. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm not taking your opinion on Haskins yet

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Speaker 1: seriously until you watch him. I've made that clear. I know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't done the shovel rock. I'm simply relaying information

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Speaker 1: which is coming from very respectable people, I understand. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take you seriously though, until you that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Until you put eyes on them, that's fine. What are

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Speaker 1: you gonna put eyes on them? Probably sometime in the

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Speaker 1: next week. I gotta I look forward to it. Paul

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Speaker 1: good Stuff, thanks for sticking with this. Thanks to John

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Speaker 1: Lear from the Draft Network. It's Me and Meadow tomorrow

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