Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbo. I'm that for me.
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 2: I want to be happy.
Speaker 1: You want to be happy for Dake Edith State. Is that?
Speaker 1: Whoo whoo? And Don and Tye welcome back to the
Speaker 1: solid breb of boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand,
Speaker 1: joining me as always back over there in New York City.
Speaker 1: My man, the one and only Dan Ruberstein, Sir, how
Speaker 1: are you? I'm great, obviously.
Speaker 2: I live a fantastic life with a fantastic family and
Speaker 2: friends and co host a wonderful college football program with
Speaker 2: a terrific friend in ty hilden Brands.
Speaker 1: It's all true. It is all true.
Speaker 2: And something I've learned is that life is about decisions
Speaker 2: and figuring out what's best for you. And we went
Speaker 2: back and forth on this a good amount, and we've
Speaker 2: done the premiere conferences and I'm glad we can shine
Speaker 2: a light on the SEC now. I think that's something
Speaker 2: that's important for us to do with the audience that
Speaker 2: we have to spotlight.
Speaker 1: The lesser we thought about just going sun belt today,
Speaker 1: maybe a little American Athletic, maybe the MAC because maction
Speaker 1: is so much fun. But alacks got a lot of
Speaker 1: big sky research. The emails have come in fast and
Speaker 1: furious for SEC content. So this evening, falling in the
Speaker 1: template of our previous shows, Dan is prepared to answer
Speaker 1: some prodding, pulsating, thrust out questions about the SEC West.
Speaker 1: And here I am over here where I'm ready to
Speaker 1: talk about the SEC East.
Speaker 2: Penetrating actually serves an actual vocabulary function in that context,
Speaker 2: so only something you really could have gone with that. Yes,
Speaker 2: so this is how it works. Explain please, here's the
Speaker 2: way it works. Dan has written up seven questions for
Speaker 2: my seven SEC East teams. I have written seven questions
Speaker 2: for his SEC West teams, and we're going to have
Speaker 2: a conversation. Instead of reading through capsules, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: a conversation about all fourteen teams in the SEC. That
Speaker 2: being said, we've done a bunch of other ones now,
Speaker 2: so go back and check those out if you haven't
Speaker 2: had a chance to already get yourself prepped for Week zero,
Speaker 2: which is apparently now more of a thing as we've
Speaker 2: got Florida and Miami this coming weekend.
Speaker 1: But also we should just point out very quickly we
Speaker 1: did two count them one two live shows this past weekend.
Speaker 1: The first was in Dallas, Texas at the Alba Draft
Speaker 1: House and the second was at Union Stage in Beautiful Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: A ton of fun to get out there, meet for ballers,
Speaker 1: do two days worth of fantasy things, which I think
Speaker 1: went over pretty well.
Speaker 2: So right, I would say, so, yeah, I had a blast.
Speaker 2: I know you had a blast. We were with Taylor,
Speaker 2: who did an incredible job for us producing the shows.
Speaker 2: The venues were great, the listeners were even better. My
Speaker 2: only not regret, but the only thing I wish had
Speaker 2: been a little bit different. I wish people had done
Speaker 2: the nerdiest thing possible and not just introduced themselves as like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm Trevor, I've listened to the show forever, really appreciate
Speaker 2: the show. I really wish they would have been like, Hi,
Speaker 2: I'm Armados on Reddit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I really wish they would have also given us
Speaker 1: you can't give away the handle, Dan, You know that
Speaker 1: you can't give away the handle. That's the thing. You
Speaker 1: can't give away the handle. If you want to be
Speaker 1: you know, a big time Internet.
Speaker 2: Or they're at a it's a live show, and I
Speaker 2: feel like that adding a handle to a name for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, Like we met Ken Greeley, not a handle,
Speaker 2: an actual name at the DC Show, and he's been
Speaker 2: a mainstay on social media and we've talked to him forever.
Speaker 2: It was great to meet him because I could put
Speaker 2: Oh face to the name. But for some people, I
Speaker 2: don't see faces, whether it's Twitter or Instagram or Reddit,
Speaker 2: and it would have been nice to still like here,
Speaker 2: I am, you know coach Oh's accent.
Speaker 1: Yea redditor. My name is Mike, but my Twitter avatar
Speaker 1: is Ernie from Sesame Street. Right.
Speaker 2: That makes it easier for socially inept people like you
Speaker 2: and I. It was a ton of next time do
Speaker 2: that people. It helps dumb people like me and Ty.
Speaker 2: It was a ton of fun. It was hectic, an
Speaker 2: awful lot of travel. Our intention is to put that
Speaker 2: show out at some point on Sunday. So what we'll
Speaker 2: be doing single mega show, right, Yeah, We'll be doing
Speaker 2: a single mega show both days smushed into one.
Speaker 1: On Sunday. We will be posting I believe a group
Speaker 1: of five preview ish or something on Tuesday morning.
Speaker 2: I think it'll be called group of dot dot dot
Speaker 2: five questions, and we will ask big questions and try
Speaker 2: to dive in as deep as we can regarding those questions.
Speaker 1: And then on Thursday morning, in time for everyone's commute,
Speaker 1: we'll have our week one preview as we get ready
Speaker 1: for the start of the college football season. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: maybe that'll be juggled a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't know what your schedule is with the secret
Speaker 2: day job, since there are Thursday games and I think
Speaker 2: the thirst will be pretty unquenchable. We'll see if we
Speaker 2: can shift things around, but we're gonna do our best,
Speaker 2: all right.
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Speaker 1: On that note, show we get rolling. Let's do that
Speaker 1: regular whoa. Let's close out with a little double foghorn,
Speaker 1: a little boat race to close things out. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: we said at the top, I am in charge of
Speaker 1: the SEC East. Daniel, you are the commissioner of the
Speaker 1: SEC West. I would have to start with you if
Speaker 1: I could. Let's go in my direction, Daniel, Let's start
Speaker 1: with LSU. LSU is kind of a whoa trendy pick
Speaker 1: this year. A lot of folks like LSU. They went
Speaker 1: nine to three well on the Fiesta Bowl over UCF,
Speaker 1: and they had a really good year. They had an
Speaker 1: offensive line that didn't put in the best showing, mind you,
Speaker 1: but they basically had to remix their whole offense on
Speaker 1: the fly to account for it. How confident are you
Speaker 1: now in twenty nineteen that that line is going to
Speaker 1: improve and they're not going to have to scheme around it.
Speaker 2: Pretty confident? But I think it's hard to separate scheming
Speaker 2: around it and the line itself. And you know, we've
Speaker 2: seen it on various levels where we're not positive how
Speaker 2: good the line actually is because of the system they're running.
Speaker 2: You know, on the biggest possible level, people seem to
Speaker 2: think the Patriots have a good offensive line in the NFL.
Speaker 2: But Tom Brady gets rid of the ball in half
Speaker 2: a second, So it doesn't matter how good or bad
Speaker 2: the line is. But with the way LSU runs an offense,
Speaker 2: and I tend to check this pretty often, tom Brady
Speaker 2: not the starter for the other That.
Speaker 1: Was going to be my question if Joe Burrow has
Speaker 1: assumed some Bradyish qualities.
Speaker 2: Not to my knowledge, happy to be wrong. So you
Speaker 2: are right, And overall last year it was a very
Speaker 2: very good year for LSU. Down day, I think it
Speaker 2: was at Florida, great win against Georgie. We all know
Speaker 2: they finished with that seven overtime wild loss to A
Speaker 2: and M. They obviously finished strong, also with a win
Speaker 2: in the bowl game against UCF. Offensively, my answer to
Speaker 2: your question about the offensive line, which has a good
Speaker 2: amount of promise inside tackles are still a decent size question.
Speaker 2: Is they hired Joe Brady, who comes over. He was
Speaker 2: an analyst for the Saints. He's now the passing game
Speaker 2: coordinator for LSU. And the thing that he has promised
Speaker 2: that ed Orzron has talked about Joe Brady bringing to
Speaker 2: LSU is that sort of quick passing game, you know,
Speaker 2: bringing in RPOs, getting rid of the ball quickly to
Speaker 2: mitigate any sort of issues that the offensive line may have,
Speaker 2: which is I think pretty good news. Joe Burrow struggled
Speaker 2: at times in big moments, fourth quarters and third downs
Speaker 2: were not his thing. He made plays in big moments,
Speaker 2: but consistently he had issues. He had issues, moments and issues,
Speaker 2: which is I think I bought that album in two
Speaker 2: thousand and three, very sad. More good news for the
Speaker 2: line is running back gets deeper. John Emery comes in
Speaker 2: intriguing five star true freshman, and there's a ton of
Speaker 2: talent out wide, so getting rid of the ball one
Speaker 2: seems like a great idea, and two the ball is
Speaker 2: going to I mean, we saw Justin Jefferson emerged last year,
Speaker 2: total dude. But there's a ton of talent at receiver,
Speaker 2: so I imagine that this is going to be a net
Speaker 2: positive if Joe Brady is who he says he is
Speaker 2: in terms of schemes, So I'm looking at the offensive
Speaker 2: line is less of an issue, and which is great
Speaker 2: news because very strong along the defensive line. They are
Speaker 2: getting healthier and much stronger at linebacker, good shape at corner.
Speaker 2: Even without Greedy Williams, Grant Delpit might be you know,
Speaker 2: if he's not the best defensive back in the country,
Speaker 2: he might be the best defensive player in the country
Speaker 2: at safety. They've recruited really well there, so you're right
Speaker 2: in focusing in on offensive line. Schedule wise, it is
Speaker 2: strange they go to Texas early.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this now, this is a weird They
Speaker 1: do have that game against the Northwestern State Demons on
Speaker 1: week three. It looks like so you.
Speaker 2: Laugh at that they're going to be a Northwestern State
Speaker 2: breaking news, but the have Utah State and that's at
Speaker 2: the start of a Florida Starkville Auburn bye week. Tuscaloosa
Speaker 2: pretty significant October e November, and that Utah State game.
Speaker 1: They're going to probably win that game. I think you
Speaker 1: look ahead is what you're thinking. Open Jordan's love.
Speaker 2: That's a good team and I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 2: be what they were last year with Gary Anderson. But
Speaker 2: that's it's a trickier group of five game that LSU
Speaker 2: has not always gotten itself out of Troy. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I am. I am intrigued by LSU. I think best
Speaker 2: case scenario, offense improves, defense still looks good. They lose
Speaker 2: Tobama and one of Florida, Auburn A and m Mississippi State.
Speaker 2: They go ten and two. Worst case I think I
Speaker 2: don't think they can get worse than eight and four
Speaker 2: with what they bring back.
Speaker 1: Eight and four I think has got to be the
Speaker 1: floor here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's losing tight ones and the offense still has
Speaker 2: trouble running the ball. That's all I can see happening.
Speaker 1: All I really want to know is because of Joe
Speaker 1: Brady's now presence on this team, mar we allowed to
Speaker 1: call the wide receivers the Brady Bunch.
Speaker 2: If they prove a nick if they proved to be
Speaker 2: nickname worthy. Yes, you know, I wanted to throughout the
Speaker 2: question of the year. It's more of like we are
Speaker 2: shoehorning in the players to make the nickname happen because
Speaker 2: we love the nickname, rather than the players earning it.
Speaker 2: So let's let's wait on that. But I would be
Speaker 2: optimistic if I were an LSU fan and will know
Speaker 2: pretty quickly going to the Hornet's nest.
Speaker 1: That is dk R week two. So floor for you
Speaker 1: eight and four, your feeling ten and two.
Speaker 2: That's the best case scenario. Yeah, I think it's between
Speaker 2: eight and ten wins. We saw the close games last year.
Speaker 2: If they can pull those out once again, they're in
Speaker 2: a good place. They were, you know, they were what
Speaker 2: an overtime away from ten regular season wins last year.
Speaker 2: It's not unthinkable that they are right there again.
Speaker 1: They recruited well too. We'll see what they can do
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah. Ok, shocker, yeah, shocking. Where are we
Speaker 1: going next?
Speaker 2: So because you didn't start out as with the clear favorite,
Speaker 2: yeah in your conference or in your vision, let's go
Speaker 2: to Florida. Okay, let's go. Let's go to the Florida Gators.
Speaker 2: As I bring up the question that I came up
Speaker 2: with about Florida, my curiosity that I that I had
Speaker 2: a couple days ago, when I look at the Gators,
Speaker 2: they threw the ball in twenty eighteen. They win, they
Speaker 2: don't throw the ball, well, they don't win with the
Speaker 2: good of a full offseason and the bad of a
Speaker 2: new offensive line. How high and this is inspired by
Speaker 2: Michael Scott. How high can Felipe Franks fly?
Speaker 1: Okay? Well, So Florida went nine and three last year.
Speaker 1: It was a really good first year campaign for Dan
Speaker 1: Mullen as head coach at Florida. I think by and large,
Speaker 1: people were happy with that. I think it's likely that
Speaker 1: Felipe Franks takes another good step forward regardless. Regardless, he
Speaker 1: improved dramatically in yere one under Mullen, finished with something
Speaker 1: like twenty four touchdowns to six in or sevens. That
Speaker 1: was up dramatically from the previous year. Physically, we know
Speaker 1: he's got the tools. He's a big kid. I think
Speaker 1: the next step for him is some combination of better
Speaker 1: accuracy and decision making. And it did seem like he
Speaker 1: was on the right path last year. I do feel
Speaker 1: like he will improve regardless of the offensive line. That
Speaker 1: being said, if we could focus on the line for
Speaker 1: a second, you know, this offense as a whole doesn't
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of gaps. The line really is
Speaker 1: the thing to watch In many ways, this is one
Speaker 1: of the easier previews We're going to do this blurb.
Speaker 1: Here is what I found very ominous, and I stole
Speaker 1: this from the Athletics football preview for Florida. Quote Florida
Speaker 1: ended spring football with Mullin all but posting a quote
Speaker 1: help wanted sign outside the door of the offensive line room.
Speaker 1: After the spring game, Mullin said Florida was quote absolutely
Speaker 1: in the market for a grad transfer to help the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah. Now look, I may not be the
Speaker 1: most talented X and O's guy, right, but that is
Speaker 1: generally not a good thing to hear. I understand he
Speaker 1: needs depth. I understand you could bring in a grad
Speaker 1: trance or they might need bodies. Yeah, but you need bodies.
Speaker 1: You need bodies, especially in the SEC where point of
Speaker 1: attack is everything. Otherwise the offense is loaded, the defense
Speaker 1: is loaded. My problem is the line. I think that
Speaker 1: has something of a limiting effect, as well as the schedule,
Speaker 1: because this team could be significantly better than last year
Speaker 1: and still finish with the same nine to three record.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the schedule. I have it in front
Speaker 1: of me right now. They open up. They open up
Speaker 1: this weekend against Miami in Orlando. That will be a
Speaker 1: tough game, especially given the fact that Florida has some
Speaker 1: deficiency along that offensive line, and that does happen to
Speaker 1: be one of Miami strengths. M h. I don't think
Speaker 1: Miami wins, but that matchup in particular could post for
Speaker 1: an interesting site for college of ball.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing the spread as and I'm not putting you
Speaker 2: on the spot in a picking because I don't think
Speaker 2: you've deep dived the specific matchups in this. But I'm
Speaker 2: singing about Florida favored by a touchdown seven and a
Speaker 2: half somewhere in that ring. That feels about right to me,
Speaker 2: and it hasn't really moved a lot. That feels about
Speaker 2: right to me.
Speaker 1: I would be inclined to go Florida if only because
Speaker 1: you know it's a neutral site game, so I think
Speaker 1: that's pretty much a watch. But Florida just has more
Speaker 1: coming back that I feel confident about, and they don't
Speaker 1: have a brand new starting quarterback. Correct, But that's neither
Speaker 1: here nor there. Here is the schedule. Florida against Miami
Speaker 1: neutral sider in Orlando this weekend, and then to close
Speaker 1: out the year, they're at home against Florida State, long
Speaker 1: time rival. In between, they've got road games at Kentucky
Speaker 1: at LSU at South Carolina at MISSOO. They've also got
Speaker 1: the big neutral site game against Georgia. I'm sure there
Speaker 1: are other teams a missing, but you get the point.
Speaker 1: This is a very difficult schedule if you looked at
Speaker 1: it from start to finish and try to work out
Speaker 1: in your head where are the wins, where are the
Speaker 1: easy wins, where the losses and the close losses. Nine
Speaker 1: to three feels about right to me, even though I
Speaker 1: do think Florida is going to improve on a number
Speaker 1: of different fronts this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the up and down recruiting of Jimmackawain
Speaker 2: will hurt a little bit this year in terms of death,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the frontline starters, especially on defense,
Speaker 2: are comparable to where Florida has been. There's higher level
Speaker 2: draft type talent, but it's the rotation, guys. It's if
Speaker 2: somebody goes down where I think there's going to be
Speaker 2: more drop off than usual. So hopefully, for that sake,
Speaker 2: Florida stays healthy. I think you're right to be concerned
Speaker 2: with the line, especially with it being such a make
Speaker 2: or break seeming year for Felipe Franks, with the talent
Speaker 2: he has around them, they have good receivers. They you know,
Speaker 2: they're deep at running back. There's a lot to like
Speaker 2: about this Florida team, especially with Dan Mullen running things.
Speaker 2: I'm worried that the cocktail of and this is almost
Speaker 2: similar to Joe Burrow of a dubious line and Felipe
Speaker 2: Franks sit situationally in big moments against the better teams,
Speaker 2: he really struggled. And I'm looking at the top one
Speaker 2: hundred passers on third down last season and he's not
Speaker 2: on the list. He is not one of the top
Speaker 2: one hundred passers. His rating was one hundred even, which
Speaker 2: is not at all good. And he completed forty four
Speaker 2: percent of his third down throws. So that to me
Speaker 2: is the major jump in Felipe Franks. What does he
Speaker 2: do as they get to midfield and they're down three
Speaker 2: in the middle of the third quarter where it seems meaningless,
Speaker 2: but ultimately they need those drives to give the defense
Speaker 2: rest and to put pressure on opposing defenses. That's huge
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean we've had this conversation about Felipe
Speaker 1: Frank's time and again, is he good? Is he not good?
Speaker 1: Last year he was better, and I think he's watch
Speaker 1: the part as they slay. Absolutely, he's got all the
Speaker 1: tools physically to be very very good. Hopefully another year
Speaker 1: under Dan Mohen will help him get there. That would
Speaker 1: only serve to benefit the Florida Gators.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, I think they're close. You mentioned the Miami game.
Speaker 2: They have Tennessee at home. They're looking to avenge the
Speaker 2: Kentucky loss. They're going to Lexington for that, Auburn at home.
Speaker 2: They're They're in the Bayo at LSU. South Carolina is
Speaker 2: a road game. Obviously Georgia's neutral site, but Florida State
Speaker 2: is at home. So not perfect. The Miszoo game, I
Speaker 2: think is secretly really difficult, But all in all it
Speaker 2: seems to even out in terms of in terms of trickiness.
Speaker 1: I would say, why don't we go to Miszoo next?
Speaker 1: You got a Missoo question? Handy you? No? I do?
Speaker 2: I love me some Miszoo sort of love me except
Speaker 2: for the biggest story about Missoo. I love all of
Speaker 2: the peripherals except for the nucleus. So the clear question
Speaker 2: to everybody and to me is is Kelly Bryant good
Speaker 2: enough Clemson quarterback transfer to make a good Miszoo program
Speaker 2: that should have been nine and three last year because
Speaker 2: they won that Kentucky game.
Speaker 1: Whatever, I don't care, don't talk to me. Are they
Speaker 1: are they? Is he good nough to make a good team?
Speaker 1: Really good? To me?
Speaker 2: He seems stuck in traffic between Great Backupville and Good
Speaker 2: starter Town?
Speaker 1: Good starter Town?
Speaker 2: Huh, Yeah, I don't think he's quite a it's the
Speaker 2: the Britney Spears song. It's I'm not a girl yet
Speaker 2: not a woman? Great Backupville, Good Starter Town? Where is
Speaker 2: he on that? On that interstate?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, first off, not to bury the lead here,
Speaker 1: Miszoo can't play in the postseason. They got they cannot
Speaker 1: excuse me, they got a two year postseason ban back
Speaker 1: at the end of January. So yeah, even if Miszoo
Speaker 1: has a miracle season, and honestly it might not be
Speaker 1: that much of a stretch that it occurs, but even
Speaker 1: if they were to go on and win the SEC East,
Speaker 1: they can't play in that conference championship game. All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that a suitor, dude, a tutor did too much academic.
Speaker 1: Tutin correct, too much too him. That being said, I think,
Speaker 1: I think, and I'm hedging a little bit. Okay, as
Speaker 1: long as Kelly Bryant is just a submidge closer to
Speaker 1: good starter town. I think that bowes really well from
Speaker 1: a Zoo dan he's got. There are a number of
Speaker 1: reasons externally to believe he can be He can be
Speaker 1: an efficient passer. I think he's shown that he hasn't
Speaker 1: always been the most consistent, but he's shown moments of
Speaker 1: brilliance moments of great efficiency from his time at Clemson.
Speaker 1: I think he's got good enough wide receivers out wide.
Speaker 1: He also adds a dimension with his legs that you
Speaker 1: would think would give the running game a boost. And
Speaker 1: it should already be a pretty good running game, by
Speaker 1: the way, because of Larry Rowntree, the third, who had
Speaker 1: a great second half of the season last year and
Speaker 1: really came into his own. The line in front of
Speaker 1: all of them is extremely extremely experienced. There's a lot
Speaker 1: to be excited about about the Miszoo offense, and I
Speaker 1: would not want to sleep on them as a team.
Speaker 1: That you could get to ten wins, I think it's
Speaker 1: entirely possible. I don't know if it happens, but I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the schedule here, Miszoo could very easily start
Speaker 1: off eight to zero before they get to Georgia in November.
Speaker 1: I think it's all there for them if they want it.
Speaker 1: The problem that they have to overcome is twofold. Really.
Speaker 1: First off, they got to find a way to rush
Speaker 1: to the ambassador. I don't know if you saw the
Speaker 1: numbers on them last year, but one oh eight in
Speaker 1: the nation in sacrate. Yeah, and you just you gotta
Speaker 1: do better than that. I don't know if they find
Speaker 1: a way to get kill Garrett more involved, but there's
Speaker 1: only so much one linebacker can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sacreate doesn't tell an entire story. Obviously, there
Speaker 2: are there are hurries they are forcing into bad throws
Speaker 2: that are interceptions. There are all sorts of things that
Speaker 2: are productive that don't get registered in sacks. But it's
Speaker 2: a starting point. That was where Missou's defensive line was
Speaker 2: for all of those years. That's a pretty big come down.
Speaker 1: And the second thing that I would point out, and
Speaker 1: this isn't really a tangible thing, but I was really
Speaker 1: struck by after reading all the previews about Missouri football,
Speaker 1: how many fans, how many writers you name it, talked
Speaker 1: about just this seeming like jinks of the Tiger football program.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fifth down. For sure. It's very strange and
Speaker 1: unless you go in and read about it, it might
Speaker 1: not be a parent. But there is sort of like
Speaker 1: this old English like woe is me quality with the
Speaker 1: Missouri football program. They're afraid that they're going to do
Speaker 1: something stupid. I hope this is not the year because
Speaker 1: I really like Missouri's talent. I think they're outstanding. Barry
Speaker 1: Odom's done a great job. He's had an immediate impact
Speaker 1: on that defense in his time there. Despite some ups
Speaker 1: and downs, this is a really good football team. Might
Speaker 1: only be third best in the SEC East, but that's
Speaker 1: saying something. I'm going to go right in the middle, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm going to say nine and three. I think it's
Speaker 1: either between. I think it's either between ten and two
Speaker 1: and eight and four. And I'm more inclined to go
Speaker 1: right in the middle and say nine and three For
Speaker 1: this team. I think they're very good.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you talked about this, but
Speaker 2: their schedule rules.
Speaker 1: The schedule's great. Eight No, right, look at the schedule
Speaker 1: at their first take keep no, yeah, before they played
Speaker 1: Georgia on I want to say November the ninth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are eight winnable games. Dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have both sides of the Neil Brown. So
Speaker 2: they have West Virginia and Troy. So Troy with a
Speaker 2: new coach, West Virginia with a new coach. They go
Speaker 2: to Laramie, which is not the easiest thing in the world,
Speaker 2: but Missoo should bet Wyoming. Yes, the house South Carolina.
Speaker 2: They host New Ole Miss. They traveled to Vandy. It's
Speaker 2: always great to travel to Vandy. You get to you
Speaker 2: get to win, and you get to go to Nashville.
Speaker 2: Kentucky on the road. I'm not penciling in anything. That
Speaker 2: was a strange game last year, and I think Kentucky
Speaker 2: should still have a pretty good defense. Georgia on the
Speaker 2: road's tough, and they get Florida, who they just ran
Speaker 2: away from last year, and Tennessee at home before finishing
Speaker 2: in Fayetteville. That is a lovely, lovely fall if you're
Speaker 2: a Miszoo fan, no matter the postseason ban, and I
Speaker 2: know they're still trying to appeal it. I believe my
Speaker 2: question as we go as it goes back to Kelly
Speaker 2: Bryant with good receivers, good running back, maybe the best
Speaker 2: or I think pretty clearly the best tight end in
Speaker 2: the conference in Big Albert. Oh oh yeah, how much
Speaker 2: do you look into missoo or how much you look
Speaker 2: into Kelly Bryant when you see what Clemson was able
Speaker 2: to do with Trevor Lawrence with the overwhelming majority of
Speaker 2: the Trevor Lawrence experience being Well, he's a transformational quarterback.
Speaker 2: Of course, he's leading a very good offense. But when
Speaker 2: Kelly Bryant was leading that offense with many of the
Speaker 2: same pieces, with this incredible receiving corps and deep running
Speaker 2: backs and experience line, they were significantly behind. That's true
Speaker 2: where twenty eighteen was true. I can't put that all
Speaker 2: on Trevor Lawrence being sensational. And it came to bear
Speaker 2: when when Clemson was playing some of the better teams
Speaker 2: on their schedule that culminated with Alabama.
Speaker 1: Well, look, that has me worried. It's a fair point.
Speaker 1: In it's a contraction. Yeah, it's a fair point. I
Speaker 1: suppose it's why Kelly Bryant transferred to not Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I then why Trevor Lawrence felt pretty good about
Speaker 2: showing up in Clemson exactly.
Speaker 1: So there you go. I'll go nine to three four
Speaker 1: miszoom hope he has a good year. Hope he does.
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you a question here, I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Alibat. Okay, they went fourteen
Speaker 1: to zero before their secondary got scorched three hundred and
Speaker 1: forty seven yards Daniel against the chosen one, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: That's not the norm for Nick Saban. Right, we can
Speaker 1: agree on that much. Yeah, take take take How how
Speaker 1: deeply do you read into that performance? And do you
Speaker 1: think at all it might be predictive of what we
Speaker 1: see this year in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: No, and I'll I think you are honing in and
Speaker 2: I'm going to as well on the secondary specifically, if
Speaker 2: there's any one thing with a full roster of coaches
Speaker 2: being turned over year over year that you can count on,
Speaker 2: it's that Nick Saban's Alabama secondary, when healthy and when
Speaker 2: stocked as he would prefer, is going to be a strength.
Speaker 2: All you can really do, and we've talked about this
Speaker 2: at the ad nauseum, all you can really do to
Speaker 2: take advantage of the Alabama secondary is have three incredible
Speaker 2: and tall receivers that can win fifty to fifty battles downfield,
Speaker 2: and a quarterback who is fearless enough to keep going
Speaker 2: to those guys, and there have been like four of
Speaker 2: those guys total in the last decade quarterback wise, and
Speaker 2: with those groups of receivers so short of that which
Speaker 2: it appears their entire schedule is in the regular season anyway,
Speaker 2: I think their secondary is going to be fine.
Speaker 1: They're healthier.
Speaker 2: Trevon Diggs hurts his foot last year and he's out
Speaker 2: for a number of games they have. It's certain patchwork
Speaker 2: is too extreme a term, but they were putting guys
Speaker 2: in there that were a definite tick below the talent
Speaker 2: level that Alabama's used to in the secondary. And I
Speaker 2: think with the upperclassmen who have been rotation guys in
Speaker 2: years past, and being healthier, you know, whether it's Xavier
Speaker 2: McKinney or Travon Diggs, they're going to be in a great,
Speaker 2: great place. The pass rush should be very good and healthier.
Speaker 2: We saw those linebackers go down last year. So the
Speaker 2: combination of a healthier pass rush, the experience in the secondary.
Speaker 2: Nick Saban being their de facto defensive back coach, and
Speaker 2: here's the list of quarterbacks. Quintin Harris promising a duke
Speaker 2: not terribly worried right now. Jake Bentley, Matt Carral, Kellen Mond,
Speaker 2: who I do like Kellen Mond's receivers. Jered Guarantano, I
Speaker 2: like his receivers more than I think I like him.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow kind of the same. Whoever starts at Mississippi State.
Speaker 2: It's still a battle at the time of this recording.
Speaker 2: Tommy Stevens and Keton Thompson sure, and Bo Nix with
Speaker 2: decent but not killer receivers at Auburn. So that cocktail
Speaker 2: I think has enough so pass rush improvement, health experience,
Speaker 2: and those quarterbacks they're going to be fine. They're going
Speaker 2: to be totally fine there. I don't have a big
Speaker 2: place of concern other than miscommunication. Another year of like
Speaker 2: a full slate, new staff. Dylan Moses is sliding inside
Speaker 2: full time at linebacker. Raekwon Davis is a name everybody knows.
Speaker 2: They have just a ridiculous defensive line class coming in.
Speaker 2: They lose a couple of big names at offensive line,
Speaker 2: but there's still a good amount of starting experience there.
Speaker 2: And then they have the best receiving core in the
Speaker 2: sec SO and the best quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm curious about running back.
Speaker 2: Naj Harris is the guy now, and Tray Sanders looked
Speaker 2: like he was gonna be the backup number one running
Speaker 2: back in the country as a recruit.
Speaker 1: He hurts his foot. He's out for the year, so they.
Speaker 2: Don't quite have the Harris Ranch situation that they had recently.
Speaker 2: But that is the ultimate nitpick. Alabama does not have
Speaker 2: to me a glaring problem anywhere. Give me ten seconds
Speaker 2: on two a tongue of ilol, because here's why. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if we do the Alabama preview without mentioning him by name,
Speaker 2: yeah that's fair, there will be angry Alabama fans, and
Speaker 2: perhaps with good reasons.
Speaker 1: So ten seconds. Yeah, starting in three two go.
Speaker 2: I'm never super thrilled with Sark being back in control,
Speaker 2: and I really like the combination of Locksley and Gaddis
Speaker 2: last year. I don't think there's gonna be a big
Speaker 2: step back. I just think it'll be different. He'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Best case everything clicks twelve and zero. Worst case depth
Speaker 2: behind him not great. I still see them winning double
Speaker 2: digit games even if two US not there. He's Heisman
Speaker 2: Heisman Heisman caliber.
Speaker 1: All right, let me give you another one here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: while we're on the subject, you did mention Bo Nicks.
Speaker 1: I think Knicks is now officially the starting quarterback at Auburn.
Speaker 1: Gus Malson made the announcement. It did seem like Joey
Speaker 1: Gatewood was more the kind of running quarterback that you're
Speaker 1: used to seeing under Malson, but he decides to go
Speaker 1: with Nix. Also a duel threat kid, maybe a better passer,
Speaker 1: more of a newcomer for sure. What do we expect
Speaker 1: now knowing that he is the starter? What does that
Speaker 1: look like as we move forward into twenty nineteen? Is
Speaker 1: it better than what we saw last year?
Speaker 2: I think it'll be better, but not necessarily because of
Speaker 2: him specifically, because the big offseason talking point has been
Speaker 2: Gus Malson has reclaimed control of the Auburn offense, and
Speaker 2: he did so in the the Music City Bowl against Purdue,
Speaker 2: and we saw Jared Stidham totally come out of the
Speaker 2: funk that he seemed to be in during the regular
Speaker 2: season and put up a bajillion points on what I
Speaker 2: can only assume is an amazing Purdue defense. Bo Nicks
Speaker 2: is going to be good for Auburn. Will he be
Speaker 2: full on good this year? I think at times, I
Speaker 2: think it's a tough ask for a true freshman to
Speaker 2: go in Even with him, I think he was five star,
Speaker 2: number one dual threat bloody blah. I think he has
Speaker 2: a pretty high ceiling. I think that much is clear
Speaker 2: as a dual threat, as a passer, if Gus Malson
Speaker 2: feels better about him than somebody with a little more
Speaker 2: experience and physically in a better place, because I think
Speaker 2: bo Nicks is about six' one two, hundred solid but not.
Speaker 2: Huge not you, Know Cam Newton sidon was a disappointment last,
Speaker 2: year and that concerns me a little bit about Bon.
Speaker 2: Nicks with all of the experience That jaredstidham, had they
Speaker 2: were off putting together longer, drives they did not generate big.
Speaker 2: Plays and Now Anthony schwartz, THERE i think he's considered
Speaker 2: be like the fastest man in college football at. Receiver
Speaker 2: he runs track For auburn as. Well believe he hurt
Speaker 2: his hands early. On he might be out or. Limited
Speaker 2: the defense was really really good up front last, year
Speaker 2: and they may have the best defensive line in THE
Speaker 2: sec this.
Speaker 1: Year but.
Speaker 2: Linebackers enough of a question to me THAT i am
Speaker 2: worried that the offense is going to have to outscore.
Speaker 2: Teams they're in decent shape behind the linebackers in the.
Speaker 2: Secondary the schedule is not. Great they Have oregon week,
Speaker 2: one who should have a good. Defense they travel To
Speaker 2: College station to take ON a AND. M they go To,
Speaker 2: gainesville they go To Baton, rouge and obviously they Have
Speaker 2: george And alabama as they.
Speaker 1: Do oh at least those games are at.
Speaker 2: Home their upper upper limit to me is getting breaks
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty lock with the true freshman quarterback and Bo.
Speaker 2: NIX i lean towards nine and, three BUT i can
Speaker 2: understand everything's on the table every year With, auburn and
Speaker 2: So i'll say ten and two is the best case.
Speaker 2: Scenario oh, YEAH i do like a. Year they flip
Speaker 2: flop every, year SO i can't fully defend. It but
Speaker 2: when you have the combination Of i'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: quarterback and, defense when you have a combination of the
Speaker 2: guys on the defensive, Line Derek, Brown Marlon, davidson you,
Speaker 2: Know Derek brown's All, american top TEN nfl pick. Caliber
Speaker 2: so when you have that kind of disruptive potential At
Speaker 2: auburn with you, know the good version Of gus malson,
Speaker 2: Offense Gus malson's.
Speaker 1: Offense it's hard to ignore that.
Speaker 2: Ceiling So i'll say ten and two if everything breaks
Speaker 2: right with the true freshman.
Speaker 1: Quarterback worst case is seven and five more of the.
Speaker 2: Same you, know you have the dangerous defensive, line but
Speaker 2: you still can't run consistently like they couldn't With Booby
Speaker 2: whitlow last. Year they lose the close, ones and you,
Speaker 2: know frustration mounts on the. PLANES i think there's more
Speaker 2: variability in their final win loss. Record so you do
Speaker 2: you think they could go all the way down to what?
Speaker 1: Five? No, NO i think you've got it. RIGHT i
Speaker 1: think ten and two sixty, Okay AND i think that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good, disparity BUT i do like. It you
Speaker 1: also bring up two things, that in light of Our
Speaker 1: Fantasy Things, draft we should put on the lists for next,
Speaker 1: year because you'll remember we started this year's list right
Speaker 1: after we got done doing last year's. Show two very important.
Speaker 1: THINGS a the player that runs track and it's just
Speaker 1: a he.
Speaker 2: Does, Okay i'm actually literally looking this up right. Now
Speaker 2: Anthony schwartz appears to run track For, auburn and in
Speaker 2: this still picture he looks very.
Speaker 1: Fast the player that runs track and also the coach
Speaker 1: who either gives away or takes back control of the
Speaker 1: offense and play. Calling. Ah track, Speed, yeah that's the.
Speaker 1: Phrase track. Speed all? Right add it in. There you got.
Speaker 1: It where are we going? Next let's go To. Georgia
Speaker 1: let's do.
Speaker 2: It let's go To georgia just because they are more
Speaker 2: interesting than the attention or lack thereof that they've. Received to, Me,
Speaker 2: okay my general assumption is That jake From plus just out.
Speaker 1: Of this world recruiting and recent.
Speaker 2: Results you, know they are a bad fake punt away
Speaker 2: from perhaps winning THE sec championship last. Year it means
Speaker 2: that a double coordinator replacement slash promotion shouldn't be a
Speaker 2: huge deal more of the. Same can you confirm or
Speaker 2: deny that After Jim cheney Goes tennessee as offense coordinator
Speaker 2: At meltucker To colorado as their head, COACH.
Speaker 1: I will confirm on defense With. Meltucker, okay AND i
Speaker 1: will neither confirm nor deny on. Offense. Ah here's why
Speaker 1: the ultimate pr mode it Is meltucker defensive coordinator went
Speaker 1: To colorado's head. Coach Kirby smart Promotes Dan lanning from.
Speaker 1: Within he's never been a defensive coordinator. Before, Right in
Speaker 1: a lot of cases that might be. Bothersome in this,
Speaker 1: One i'm okay with it Because kirby always has a
Speaker 1: hand in the defense. Anyway. Hmm like they'll be. Fine
Speaker 1: Where i'm a little bit more concerned is on. Offense
Speaker 1: Jim cheney goes To. Tennessee he's a new offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: For Jeremy, pruett and Again kirby smart promotes from. Within
Speaker 1: he gives a job To James. Coley now do you
Speaker 1: Remember James coley from his time At. Miami mm. Hmm
Speaker 1: he was on the Stafford georgia last. Year, yeah that's
Speaker 1: stint At. Miami, yeah that stint With miami from twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen to twenty fifteen had very mixed, results very mixed.
Speaker 1: Results and the other thing THAT i read kind of
Speaker 1: as like the cherry on top of whatever CONCERN i
Speaker 1: might already, have they apparently want to be more pass
Speaker 1: heavy this, year which makes, sense it, does but it
Speaker 1: doesn't why because you Got jake from was one of
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in the Nation Demeitor's. Robertson it doesn't
Speaker 1: because you've basically got an entirely new wide receiving. Corps,
Speaker 1: yeah doesn't mean somebody can't step, up but it really
Speaker 1: is an area of unknown, quantity unknown. Promise right, now
Speaker 1: we don't know what we have at the wide receiver
Speaker 1: position For. GEORGIA i assume they'll be, good but can
Speaker 1: they carry a more pass happy. LOAD i don't. Know
Speaker 1: and the other reason it doesn't make sense is because
Speaker 1: if you look at What georgia has coming. Back, sure
Speaker 1: they've got an all world everything quarterback And jake from
Speaker 1: but they're really good along that offensive line and they're
Speaker 1: loaded in the. Backfield so one thing THAT i was
Speaker 1: saying to people as we were doing our live shows
Speaker 1: and as folks came up afterwards to talk About Notre
Speaker 1: dame And georgia and all things college, football WHAT i
Speaker 1: fear When Notre dame Plays georgia is That georgia is
Speaker 1: just gonna run up the. Gut. Yeah they they've got
Speaker 1: the manpower to do. It it's an area of weakness
Speaker 1: the spine of that defense For Notre. DAME i WOULD
Speaker 1: i think there are a lot of other teams outside
Speaker 1: Of Notre dame That georgia could just do that. Too
Speaker 1: they could run the ball forty five times and go
Speaker 1: ten and. Two So i'm very. CURIOUS i don't know
Speaker 1: HOW i feel About James. Coley he's got more talent
Speaker 1: now On georgia than he did With, miami and that
Speaker 1: will no doubt play a. Factor but if in fact
Speaker 1: they veer too much away from a ground game THAT
Speaker 1: i think would be really good With DeAndrea swift And
Speaker 1: Zamir white and who knows whoever, else and try to
Speaker 1: work it in or force feed it to a brand
Speaker 1: new wide receiving corps could. WORK i JUST i don't
Speaker 1: feel as confident in that.
Speaker 2: Does What georgia lost both coaching, wise offensive, wise with
Speaker 2: big names out, Wide with what they lost and What
Speaker 2: florida has, RETAINED i guess is that a closer? Game
Speaker 2: like do you see these teams as being closer as
Speaker 2: programs because of you, know the natural attrition and changes
Speaker 2: to their programs With Dan mullen having another year that
Speaker 2: in that, seat And, georgia you, know finally having to
Speaker 2: deal with something that major programs have to deal, with
Speaker 2: which is other teams wanting their coaches and you know
Speaker 2: they're good players leaving.
Speaker 1: EARLY i, mean maybe, MARGINALLY i still feel like the
Speaker 1: gap Between georgia And florida is is is pretty wide
Speaker 1: And Dan mullen got off to a really good. Start
Speaker 1: But georgia has been recruiting gangbusters Since Kirby smart got. There,
Speaker 1: yeah SO i feel pretty good about them with every,
Speaker 1: position really a ton of. Talent the defensive line is no.
Speaker 1: Exception they just need to play. Better not to be too,
Speaker 1: unscientific but they got some new, faces they got a.
Speaker 1: Gel last year's run defense wasn't, great gave up over
Speaker 1: four yards of. Carry that's something THAT i think they
Speaker 1: can improve. Upon and really the same story with their defensive. Backfield,
Speaker 1: again a ton of, talent just need to step up their,
Speaker 1: game take it to the next. Level even marginal improvement
Speaker 1: will make them a, much, much much better defensive. Unit
Speaker 1: SO i really Like. Georgia i'm all in On. GEORGIA
Speaker 1: i have questions about what this offense looks. LIKE i
Speaker 1: have questions about who ends up stepping, up if somebody
Speaker 1: can step up out, wide and you know what that
Speaker 1: defense is going to look like on the front end
Speaker 1: and back. End these are medium sized, questions you, know
Speaker 1: if we've got a gigantic question About kentucky or you, Know, missouri,
Speaker 1: WHOEVER i don't have a question quite of that magnitude
Speaker 1: for The Georgia bulldogs because they're going to be just.
Speaker 1: Fine they're the odds on favorite to win THE Sec.
Speaker 1: EAST i think they will win THE Sec east because
Speaker 1: they've got an incredible stable of football players coming back
Speaker 1: in twenty.
Speaker 2: Nineteen, yeah early, On i'm going to pay attention to
Speaker 2: the first, month month and a half two situational numbers For.
Speaker 2: Georgia they were they were good on third, down but
Speaker 2: not particularly good in the red.
Speaker 1: Zone last.
Speaker 2: Year you, know Maybe James coley is an improvement with
Speaker 2: play calling when it gets. Close georgia was not particularly
Speaker 2: good either in the red zone, Defensively maybe it's a
Speaker 2: situation we're getting in new, eyes fresh ideas is a
Speaker 2: good thing For georgia as they try to get over the,
Speaker 2: top and it's really just a matter of not dumping
Speaker 2: a game against a good team during the season and
Speaker 2: getting over The alabama hump in the postseason if it
Speaker 2: comes to.
Speaker 1: That, okay where do you want to go?
Speaker 2: Next this, team to me is crazy intriguing just because
Speaker 2: of progress not necessarily. Ceiling the past couple of. Years
Speaker 2: tennessee and their defense has been below average and their
Speaker 2: offense on the, whole real.
Speaker 1: Bad real.
Speaker 2: Bad but this year they have a workable non conference
Speaker 2: schedule and most of their tough games are in one.
Speaker 2: Stretch so which side do you see between offense and
Speaker 2: defense making a more noticeable? JUMP i guess so that'd
Speaker 2: be the defense to above average or the offense to
Speaker 2: h sometimes.
Speaker 1: COMPETENT i think the answer here is. Offense they need
Speaker 1: to stay healthy along the, line which was a. Problem
Speaker 1: But Jared guarantano they've got the backfield only a only a,
Speaker 1: junior which is, amazing has found a. Wormhole M a
Speaker 1: backfield led By Todd, chandler who was pretty good last.
Speaker 1: YEAR a wide receiving corps led By Marquez callaway And Juwan.
Speaker 1: JENNINGS i think there is so much room to improve
Speaker 1: on that side of the football that may not exist
Speaker 1: on The defensi's, side primarily because there's turnover the. Defense
Speaker 1: if you really look at, it it gets stronger the
Speaker 1: farther back you. Go up, front they lose four guys at.
Speaker 1: Linebacker they've recruited really, well but they're still trying to
Speaker 1: build depth and in the defensive. Backfield that's the real
Speaker 1: teeth of their defense where they've got four returning, starters
Speaker 1: Including Bryce, thompson the Freshman All World. Everything from last,
Speaker 1: Year tennessee went five and seven a year. Ago in
Speaker 1: looking at their schedule now knowing what they have coming,
Speaker 1: back what do you think is their upper? Ceiling they
Speaker 1: should be a bowl.
Speaker 2: Team they should be six and, six seven and, FIVE
Speaker 2: i think Mel, YEAH i think they should be flirting
Speaker 2: with that at the very.
Speaker 1: Least, see they've got a road game At, florida they're
Speaker 1: home Against. Georgia they're At, bama which is never, easy
Speaker 1: and they're At Kentucky. Annual, yeah and they're At kentucky
Speaker 1: which we'll talk About kentucky in a little, bit but tricky. Game. Right,
Speaker 1: SO i don't know HOW i feel about This tennessee.
Speaker 1: Team they're primed to take a step forward in many,
Speaker 1: respects but in many others they're still building Under Jeremy.
Speaker 1: PRUETT i liked that they played hard last. Year and you,
Speaker 1: Know i've said this about a bunch of teams, previously
Speaker 1: AND i know you make fun of me almost every
Speaker 1: TIME i do. It but when a team comes out
Speaker 1: there and plays, hard that tells me that they're buying
Speaker 1: in to what the coach is selling. Them if you
Speaker 1: get enough buy, in that's how you show. Growth we
Speaker 1: would you say that that would make them champions of?
Speaker 1: Life it, would it would make them closer to being
Speaker 1: champions of. Life, okay effort for. Sure, Yeah SO i
Speaker 1: like the direction of the program at the. Moment but
Speaker 1: THE Sec east as a whole has gotten better this,
Speaker 1: year AND i JUST i still think they're kind of
Speaker 1: a bit away from being to the point where they're.
Speaker 1: Competitive they could scare the Be jesus oided people. Though.
Speaker 2: Yeah and the other team they have in The west
Speaker 2: Is Mississippi, state who should be real, good especially on
Speaker 2: defense after putting up a you, know a top ten
Speaker 2: national defense last. Year even with what they, lose there's
Speaker 2: a lot Of so It's Georgia STATE Byu. Chattanooga let's
Speaker 2: assume the best Of tennessee exists those first three weeks
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 1: Season they start out three and.
Speaker 2: Zero after, That, Florida, Georgia Mississippi, State alabama on the.
Speaker 2: Road the bell weather to me is going to Be South.
Speaker 2: Carolina they've lost three. STRAIGHT i believe UH to will
Speaker 2: must champion the Game, cocks and if they are in
Speaker 2: a place where they have turned a. Corner they should
Speaker 2: Beat South carolina at. HOME i think it's Around halloween
Speaker 2: and then THE Uab they finished tough At, kentucky tough
Speaker 2: At miszoo and A vandy game that they should be
Speaker 2: over this hump by.
Speaker 1: Now South CAROLINA i think is they're poised About. Edward,
Speaker 1: yeah they think they're ready to do great. THINGS i
Speaker 1: Think will Musch champs said they're going to accomplish things
Speaker 1: Of South carolina program has never accomplished.
Speaker 2: Before, yeah they lost that game close last Year tennessee
Speaker 2: and then comfortably lost To miszoo And vandy to finish
Speaker 2: out the season last. Year very nice win Against kentucky
Speaker 2: THAT i know got both of our hopes a little
Speaker 2: higher than perhaps they should have been In november for the.
Speaker 2: Balls but, YEAH i imagine The Jim cheney thing offensive.
Speaker 2: Consultants we call him that for a. REASON i think
Speaker 2: he gets hr in. Order shipping is going to be
Speaker 2: a lot more. Efficient everything's going to be happening in
Speaker 2: a positive way For tennessee's offense that wasn't before good, enough,
Speaker 2: sure BUT i think it's going to be in the right.
Speaker 1: Direction they'll be in a BALL i, agree let's move.
Speaker 1: ON i want to talk About Mississippi. State, OH i
Speaker 1: can't believe you went. There i'm so excited since you
Speaker 1: brought it. Up first, Off is it safe And i'm
Speaker 1: assuming it isn't because of what you said in the? Open,
Speaker 1: yeah is it safe to assume That Tommy stevens is
Speaker 1: going to be the?
Speaker 2: STARTER i think? So, like what, again we're recording this
Speaker 2: you put on that seventy.
Speaker 1: Three, Okay.
Speaker 2: Quarterback Has diffinitently you Mentioned florida saying we're open to grad.
Speaker 2: Transfers different at, quarterback AND i understand The Tate martell
Speaker 2: thing At miami that just because you transferred to a
Speaker 2: school and are eligible doesn't necessarily mean you're. Starting But
Speaker 2: Joe moore had knew what he had In Keithon thompson pretty,
Speaker 2: clearly and to bring In Tommy, stevens who doesn't have
Speaker 2: a lot of time to, play is kind of a.
Speaker 2: MESSAGE i know he's recruited well at. Quarterback there's some,
Speaker 2: young intriguing talent, there but it feels like he wants
Speaker 2: to take advanceage of the talent on hand on offense
Speaker 2: as much as. Possible and that didn't necessarily mean, yeah
Speaker 2: we're just next guy. Up he's the guy Because Nick
Speaker 2: fitzgerald was the guy last. Year and it doesn't give
Speaker 2: ME i, Know Keithon thompson has, HURT i know the injury.
Speaker 2: Issues it doesn't give me a great deal of confidence
Speaker 2: that the best guy for the job last year was
Speaker 2: the worst quarterback in THE. Sec so it makes me
Speaker 2: think That Tommy stevens is going to be the guy.
Speaker 2: Now both of these guys have not proven anything in
Speaker 2: terms of no consistent high level, play so that's. Worrisome
Speaker 2: BUT i think either one of these guys will be
Speaker 2: in a good.
Speaker 1: Position they.
Speaker 2: Had the receivers are, Back they've got big dudes. There
Speaker 2: the line is in pretty good, shape really Like Kylon
Speaker 2: hill in the. Backfield defense should BE i, MEAN i
Speaker 2: really like this. Defense even Without Montes sweat And Jeffrey simmons.
Speaker 2: GONE i, think you, know there's enough talent inside along
Speaker 2: the defensive. Line linebackers in a great. Place excuse me
Speaker 2: With Errol. Thompson they're replacing starters in the, secondary especially at,
Speaker 2: safety but there's, good good options there with. Experience so
Speaker 2: you're right to, say is quarterback the biggest? Question because,
Speaker 2: yes it obviously is a.
Speaker 1: Second please do here's HOW i know you're drinking That
Speaker 1: Mississippi state col. Brew oh my, GOSH i definitely am you.
Speaker 1: Are you are sipping That Mississippi state cole. Brew. Yep
Speaker 1: you didn't even let me ask the second part of my. Question,
Speaker 1: oh what's the second part of your? QUESTION i was
Speaker 1: JUST i, Know, dan it's. Okay we're all friends. Here.
Speaker 1: Fair the question, is if we assume with seventy three
Speaker 1: percent certainty That Tommy stevens is going to be your
Speaker 1: starting quarterback In Mississippi, state do you have more questions
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position with him in charge or the
Speaker 1: pieces around him other than the quarterback in your two who's.
Speaker 2: Going to be shoveling the Ball Tommy stevens if he's
Speaker 2: the one taking the, snap that's a pretty big.
Speaker 1: Question.
Speaker 2: Yeah the secondary concerns me BECAUSE i, think, oh this
Speaker 2: is going to do a good job and we'll get to.
Speaker 2: That even though they're not.
Speaker 1: Going to be.
Speaker 2: GOOD i think they're going a good job throwing the.
Speaker 2: Ball alabama's going to do a good job throwing the.
Speaker 2: BALL i think Tex a AND m is going to
Speaker 2: do a good job throwing the. Ball so the secondary
Speaker 2: is an issue to. Have Jonathan abram back there like
Speaker 2: he was last year and not there this.
Speaker 1: Year it's a big. Deal it's a big deal to
Speaker 1: not have.
Speaker 2: That i'm confident In bob SHOP i think he's a
Speaker 2: very good defensive.
Speaker 1: COORDINATOR i think we'll get things figured.
Speaker 2: Out but with the quarterbacks That Mississippi state has on their, schedule,
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm a little concerned with that. SECONDARY i definitely
Speaker 2: am and they don't have. Them they're not going to
Speaker 2: have the pass rush that they had last. Year so,
Speaker 2: yeah that's the secondary is the secondary concern for. Me
Speaker 2: the best case to me is that their very bad
Speaker 2: quarterback play ascends to average BECAUSE i don't think the
Speaker 2: ceiling is particularly high for either one of these. Guys
Speaker 2: the defense doesn't drop off a, lot and they go
Speaker 2: nine and, three nine and Three joe. Moorehead worst, CASE
Speaker 2: i think is seven and. Five there's just too much
Speaker 2: there coming back and experienced and have won and hung
Speaker 2: in big, games not to everything doesn't fully come. Together
Speaker 2: BUT i think the variance is seven to nine.
Speaker 1: Wins let me stay in The Great state Of mississippi
Speaker 1: IF i. Could, Yeah Matt, luke your, boy. HMM i
Speaker 1: don't know where that came, from BUT i, mean, sure why?
Speaker 1: Not he seems okay five and seven last year at Ole,
Speaker 1: miss and in the off season went out he Hired
Speaker 1: Rich Rodriguez mike McIntyre trying a little bit of a.
Speaker 1: Reboot dan feels a little bit like The homer at
Speaker 1: The bad episode Where Darryl strawberry And Mike soosha And
Speaker 1: wade bog just show. Up, yeah ready to make magic
Speaker 1: Love Wade. Box which of these two, Guys Rich Rodriguez
Speaker 1: mike McIntyre do you think has the most immediate?
Speaker 2: Impact SO i went Through Ole miss position by position
Speaker 2: group and tried to figure out where they were. Stronger
Speaker 2: you know What rich rod offenses have looked, like What
Speaker 2: mike McIntyre defenses have looked, Like where they've thrived position group,
Speaker 2: Wise and it seems pretty obvious to me that it's
Speaker 2: going to be offense And rich just because he has
Speaker 2: been successful, everywhere even with quarterbacks new to his system
Speaker 2: that have been young As matt Corral. Is marel did
Speaker 2: look pretty good by the way last year in limited
Speaker 2: spot duty when nothing was really on the, line but
Speaker 2: looked pretty good athletic through a nice. BALL i Like
Speaker 2: Scotti phillips as a running.
Speaker 1: Back he has.
Speaker 2: Upside there's a lot of youth at, receiver but blue
Speaker 2: chip type. Receivers the line's pretty. Green BUT i Think
Speaker 2: Rich rodick can do a pretty good job of mitigating
Speaker 2: things like, that just with, scheme my notes for the
Speaker 2: defense and What mike McIntyre has here after you, know
Speaker 2: speeding through a bunch of Ole miss games on deep
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball and looking at
Speaker 2: some of the numbers and reminding, myselves reminding myself they're
Speaker 2: moving to a three to. Four there's experience up, front
Speaker 2: but not that. Good and then LINEBACKER i have written
Speaker 2: down here there are humans, here and then for DEFENSIVE
Speaker 2: i have written there are also humans. Here there are
Speaker 2: players who will wear uniforms and will go to certain
Speaker 2: parts of the field in which they are assigned at
Speaker 2: linebacker and defensive. Back but the talent is too far
Speaker 2: away for Ole miss to feel anything About mike McIntyre's
Speaker 2: defense in year. One So i'm gonna say offense to
Speaker 2: that by, Default, yeah by default, schedule we're gonna see
Speaker 2: a lot of. Points THEY i think they travel To.
Speaker 2: Memphis they have a Cal alabama one, two which is
Speaker 2: very funny and. Unique they have a by sandwich between
Speaker 2: TEXTS a AND m and traveling to the planes and
Speaker 2: then a buy sandwich BETWEEN lsu and The Egg, bowl
Speaker 2: which is on the road this. Year SO i don't.
Speaker 2: Know they could start four and, zero win some, shootouts
Speaker 2: sneak up on you, know somebody with a little more
Speaker 2: balance on, offense six and, six seven and. FIVE i
Speaker 2: don't think THEY i don't think they're gonna be worse
Speaker 2: than four and eight because the offense should be. Better
Speaker 2: this is kind of uneven last, year but, YEAH i
Speaker 2: think it's at Best bowl Flirtation bowl.
Speaker 1: Flirtation, okay, yeah and it's Rich. Trot the answer is rich.
Speaker 1: Trot give me some of that Sec East, Love, DAN
Speaker 1: i would love to.
Speaker 2: Ty thanks for asking you WHY i talk About South
Speaker 2: carolina doing About. KENTUCKY i went To South. Carolina but
Speaker 2: let's start With South, carolina all. Right South carolina a
Speaker 2: fun team in that they played lots of fun. Games
Speaker 2: they were crazy, competitive you, know winning by four losing
Speaker 2: by three every, week and that was generally because the
Speaker 2: offense was clearly, improved with turnovers that were horribly, timed it,
Speaker 2: seemed and a defense that took a pretty significant step
Speaker 2: back which WAS i think a good reason was. Injuries
Speaker 2: and so hopefully the you, know injuries build depth thing
Speaker 2: comes through For South. Carolina So South carolina at full operating,
Speaker 2: capacity healthier and less mistake. Prone are the Game cocks
Speaker 2: being slept on as not An East crown type team
Speaker 2: but a real danger to everybody in The?
Speaker 1: East good? Question, Yeah, YEAH i. DO i THINK i
Speaker 1: think they're being slept on as a dangerous, team but
Speaker 1: not one that will win The. East AND i think the,
Speaker 1: primary the primary reason for that is because of the brutal,
Speaker 1: schedule which we'll we'll talk about. Voluntarily it's. Nuts that's
Speaker 1: ultimately going to limit. Them but, specifically if you look
Speaker 1: At South carolina six and five last, year because that
Speaker 1: had that one game. Canceled M. H if they can
Speaker 1: cut down on the turnovers on offense they had twenty
Speaker 1: one last. Year that some of that's bad. Luck some
Speaker 1: of that some of that's bad, luck but that's just a.
Speaker 1: Lot it's not all. Luck Jake bentley threw fourteen, picks
Speaker 1: that was the most in THE. Sec some bad, luck,
Speaker 1: yes not all bad. Luck that's a lot of. Picks,
Speaker 1: Yeah so if he can JUST i don't, know cut
Speaker 1: that back a little bit, somehow some way that gives
Speaker 1: you more, drives that gives you better scoring, potential it
Speaker 1: makes your offense. Better i'd start. There to, me it's
Speaker 1: a leap that they're going to fix it all in
Speaker 1: one off, season even if they get marginally. BETTER i
Speaker 1: don't think it's something that you can fix. Overnight so
Speaker 1: that is SOMETHING i will be watching right from the
Speaker 1: jump With South. Carolina the bright spot on offense, though
Speaker 1: is that the line looks really good and that can.
Speaker 1: Help that can help with not only moving the, football
Speaker 1: but obviously keeping the football with you when you have.
Speaker 2: It Added Tavian, Feaster, yes a deeper. Backfield, Yeah SO i.
Speaker 1: Like the line AND i really Like South carolina as a.
Speaker 1: WHOLE i like what they have coming. Back you mentioned
Speaker 1: about the injuries building, depth and nowhere is that more
Speaker 1: prevalent than on, defense because the injury bug For South
Speaker 1: carolina last year was super. Problematic the, injuries you would
Speaker 1: assume are going to build some depth now because a
Speaker 1: lot of the younger guys they did get. Experience that
Speaker 1: should help this. SEASON i have real questions about the, secondary,
Speaker 1: though because they're really young back. There they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to figure it out pretty. Quickly but all in, ALL
Speaker 1: i like this. TEAM i really like this. Team it's
Speaker 1: just the schedule from The. West they Draw alabama and
Speaker 1: a road game AGAINST a AND. M they close out
Speaker 1: the year at home Against. Clemson they're also on the
Speaker 1: road At georgia And tennessee and then they then they
Speaker 1: Get florida at. Home there are other games in, There
Speaker 1: dan that we could, mention but those are the ones
Speaker 1: that jumped out at. ME i don't care how much
Speaker 1: talent you. Have they have App. State they have App,
Speaker 1: state which is they have App state before they go
Speaker 1: to college.
Speaker 2: STATION i mean THAT'S i don't think they're gonna look,
Speaker 2: ahead even though App state has a new, Coach but
Speaker 2: that's not anywhere near like all, right late in the,
Speaker 2: season we'll throw somebody in there as like a guppy
Speaker 2: before we finish WITH a AND m And.
Speaker 1: Clemson now that's a real team, team. Yea so my
Speaker 1: point here, is much like we discussed With, florida this
Speaker 1: is a team that could improve by leaps and bounds
Speaker 1: and still have a suboptimal. Record maybe they won't go
Speaker 1: six and, five six and. Six maybe it's only seven
Speaker 1: and five or eight and, Four but they're a.
Speaker 2: Danger if they're a significant, danger they should win eight.
Speaker 2: Games now that schedules, rough but schedule's. Brutal they will
Speaker 2: get somebody they're gonna. Get should they? Beat who should they?
Speaker 2: Beat if they are quote unquote a significant danger to
Speaker 2: everybody they? Play they were not that last. Year i'm
Speaker 2: pulling up the schedule. Here, yeah so they should Beat
Speaker 2: North Carolina Mac brown year. One, yeah, agree. Agreed should
Speaker 2: they Beat Charleston. Southern, Yes i'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: So, yes.
Speaker 2: You're not a significant danger if you get killed By,
Speaker 2: alabama but that's.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Sure they should probably Beat maszoo on the road if
Speaker 2: they're a significant. Danger if they're a significant, DANGER i
Speaker 2: would agree with that Because mazoo is at that point
Speaker 2: where they're a significant.
Speaker 1: Danger.
Speaker 2: Right, yes this. Season oh, man this is gonna be
Speaker 2: such a good. Movie significant danger Star Jake. Bentley they
Speaker 2: should Be kentucky if they're they should Beat kentucky if, again,
Speaker 2: qualifier if they are that significant. Threat they're not Against.
Speaker 2: Georgia they're not in. It they were not in it last.
Speaker 2: Year they should be in it Against. Georgia if they
Speaker 2: are a significant, DANGER.
Speaker 1: I think they lose To, florida but keep it. Close,
Speaker 1: okay they should again by by a little hypothetical, here
Speaker 1: Beat tennessee on the, road Beat, dandy beat Our, STATE
Speaker 1: a AND. M i could go either. WAY i. DON'T
Speaker 1: i don't at least hang WITH a AND, m hang
Speaker 1: with and probably lose To. Clemson Right, so in and of,
Speaker 1: itself that's like what eight and FOUR i.
Speaker 2: Think, so, yeah you can Excuse, George alabama And, clemson
Speaker 2: and then you're throwing a loss against Whoever, FLORIDA.
Speaker 1: A AND.
Speaker 2: M but eight and four means, That, Wow, okay at
Speaker 2: eight and four hanging and, winning they just they. Can't
Speaker 2: they can't let somebody run away from. Them that's all
Speaker 2: it is to. Me they have to be week in week,
Speaker 2: out because that offense really did when it was, rolling
Speaker 2: and they didn't shoot themselves in the. Foot we're talking
Speaker 2: about a team who threw On clemson. IMPRESSIVELY i wouldn't
Speaker 2: go as far as saying, hanging but they hung for
Speaker 2: a long time Against.
Speaker 1: Clemson that's.
Speaker 2: True they put fifty on a battle miss. Team they
Speaker 2: Beat tennessee, again they lost last second TO a AND.
Speaker 2: M they did not look competitive Against kentucky and so
Speaker 2: really just looking better Against, georgia Beating kentucky and hanging
Speaker 2: with some of the other teams they hung With, Florida
Speaker 2: that to me is significant danger and that to me
Speaker 2: is an. Improvement And florida had to come back to
Speaker 2: win that game last. Year so no more giving away
Speaker 2: those fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1: Types all, right give me some of that Sweet kentucky love, Here.
Speaker 1: Dan All.
Speaker 2: Right So kentucky had a magical season last, year and
Speaker 2: that season benefited from having probably the country's most gravitational
Speaker 2: pass rusher In Josh, allen and had a great secondary behind.
Speaker 2: Him it's a terrific combination and an offense that could
Speaker 2: generally count On Benny snell to carry to carry a
Speaker 2: load that the passing, game to, me could. Not so
Speaker 2: if we're to assume the best way For kentucky to
Speaker 2: win again this year to look comparable to last year
Speaker 2: is finding a way to replicate this. Strategy do you
Speaker 2: believe in the new guys who are going to have
Speaker 2: to be the new versions of Secondary Josh, Allen Benny, snell?
Speaker 2: Whoever BECAUSE i don't think you're super high On Terry,
Speaker 2: wilson but Maybe i'm.
Speaker 1: Wrong, yeah we actually got a question at the live
Speaker 1: show About Terry. Wilson want to like? Him? Really? DO i?
Speaker 1: Do not that? GOOD i, do and AND i do
Speaker 1: look back and lament a little bit THAT i was
Speaker 1: unfair to him in, Spots, yeah because he really was
Speaker 1: better than PERHAPS i PERHAPS i knew he had some,
Speaker 1: moments Dan at some. Moments? Okay DO i believe in
Speaker 1: the new? Guys Mark stoops believes in the new. Guys
Speaker 1: he's pretty high on the new. Guys what running? Back
Speaker 1: he's pretty high on. HIM a coach is high on his.
Speaker 1: HEAD i, know, surprise. Surprise Mark stoops feels very good
Speaker 1: about their running back. Situation of course they're getting rid
Speaker 1: Of Benny, snell getting rid of they don't wanting rid of. Them,
Speaker 1: Wow but damn he has to. Leave he's out of.
Speaker 1: Eligibility he had more than thirty eight hundred yards and
Speaker 1: forty eight touchdowns on the. Ground and then of Course
Speaker 1: Josh allen thirty one and a half career sacks seventeen
Speaker 1: just last year on his. Nuts that's a lot to.
Speaker 1: Replace so who Replaces? Snell the guy is Aj rose
Speaker 1: that you should listen. For he's going to take a
Speaker 1: stab at. It he's about two inches taller and fifteen
Speaker 1: pounds lighter Than Benny snell seventy nine carries last, year
Speaker 1: six point six yards per. Carry he's gonna be your primary.
Speaker 1: Guy they got some others in, there Like Chris rodriguez
Speaker 1: And Travis tisdale And Cavasier, smoke which is a great,
Speaker 1: name great. Name each of them brings a different skill
Speaker 1: set that could. Help BUT i don't think any one
Speaker 1: of those guys is going to be able to Replace Benny,
Speaker 1: stell no. Chance i'm curious to see how they rotate
Speaker 1: these guys in and, out use them in different, packages
Speaker 1: try to get the same production from that running back,
Speaker 1: position because it can't all be on the. Armit Terry,
Speaker 1: wilson he's a good, runner needs to improve as a.
Speaker 1: Passer wasn't really a threat as a passer last.
Speaker 2: Year that's what you want to hear about your quarterback
Speaker 2: runner when it came to. Throwing nobody was super.
Speaker 1: Scared had. Flashes yeah he, did but on the whole
Speaker 1: to say that he's like this sort of aerial, THREAT
Speaker 1: i can't say, that all. Right so that's the first
Speaker 1: thing on The Josh allen. SIDE i don't know how
Speaker 1: you replaced That mark would.
Speaker 2: Be pretty great if he suddenly were, though it Would Terry,
Speaker 2: Wilson i'd be, great it Would.
Speaker 1: Mark stoops seems to think That Boogie watson can do,
Speaker 1: it and he's big kids like six, four two. Thirty
Speaker 1: he did make an impact and limited action last, year
Speaker 1: so perhaps there is room for him to grow and
Speaker 1: step into that role that is now vacated By Josh.
Speaker 1: Allen it's just one of those things THAT i need
Speaker 1: to see to. Believe, Yeah Josh allen, special he really.
Speaker 1: WAS i mean it was such a banner year For
Speaker 1: kentucky last, year nine and three regular, season ten to
Speaker 1: three with the win Over Penn state in the bowl. Game,
Speaker 1: like what a great season For Mark. Stoops he had
Speaker 1: been building to this for quite some. Time he finally got,
Speaker 1: recruited well, developed well so great. Talent if you look
Speaker 1: at the, secondary another area WHERE i have some question,
Speaker 1: marks five guys from that backfield were either drafted or
Speaker 1: signed as undrafted free. Agents that's a. Lot that's a
Speaker 1: good amounts actly. There it was really. Good, yeah it.
Speaker 1: Was And Mark stoops he likes the talent he has
Speaker 1: coming back this, season but he knows it's going to
Speaker 1: take some time to get it. Right and then the other.
Speaker 1: QUESTION i hate to come back to, this but to
Speaker 1: what end Can Terry wilson improve as a? Passer we
Speaker 1: know he's a hell of a. Runner mm. Hmm he
Speaker 1: can be more of a force in the passing game
Speaker 1: and get the ball downfield to our, Boy Lynn Bowden.
Speaker 1: Junior mm. Hmm just a. SUGGESTION i hope he can.
Speaker 1: Do but AGAIN i need to wait to reserve. Judgment
Speaker 1: SO i look at the schedule With. KENTUCKY i THINK
Speaker 1: i feel pretty good about the talent coming. Back my
Speaker 1: biggest issue, is as you mentioned at the, top the
Speaker 1: two big guns are gone from a year. Ago he
Speaker 1: got A Mississippi state At South carolina At. Georgia not
Speaker 1: the worst schedule AS sect schedules. GO i can see
Speaker 1: this team going eight and four pretty, easily, well pretty. Easily,
Speaker 1: YEAH i like.
Speaker 2: It by the, Way Lynn bowden might see some time
Speaker 2: under center playing some quarterback terrific tricky.
Speaker 1: Dicky.
Speaker 2: Yeah eight and four means they are beating one of
Speaker 2: these teams missoo like they did last. Year Asterisk, Georgia Mississippi, State,
Speaker 2: Florida South. Carolina it's a pretty good. Schedule you are,
Speaker 2: Right So, Florida Mississippi, State, GEORGIA missoo are the easiest
Speaker 2: losses to. See, yeah if they're going eight and, four
Speaker 2: that means they're Beating South, Carolina, Arkansas, Shocker Tennessee. Andandy,
Speaker 2: okay it's actually a nice. Schedule they Have, toledo who's been.
Speaker 2: Good it's a good.
Speaker 1: Scout have The toledo you, know depth chart in front
Speaker 1: of me right. Now, yeah it's a good. Schedule, dan
Speaker 1: if they beat the teams they're supposed to. Beat eight
Speaker 1: and four is right, There.
Speaker 2: Okay and they're undoing will probably. Be they just aren't
Speaker 2: as good as last, year which is. Understandable they were really.
Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, yeah you don't have The Bell cow And Benny.
Speaker 1: Snell you certainly don't have the defensity present the gravitational
Speaker 1: force as you referred to, Him Josh, allen all, right
Speaker 1: where are we going? Next, okay let's go To. TEXAS
Speaker 1: a AND. M let's let's stick with the impossible. Schedules, defense, defense,
Speaker 1: defense mm. Hmm something of a mixed, bag one would
Speaker 1: say FOR a AND. M this, season the line seems
Speaker 1: like it's got a ton of, potential but then you've
Speaker 1: got pretty significant losses everywhere, else and this is a
Speaker 1: ready a pretty questionable past defense last season, also to
Speaker 1: say the, least Sad ley's also a murderous schedule that
Speaker 1: we'll get into. Here are you of the mindset That Mike,
Speaker 1: ELCO i don't, know can spin some, magic that he's
Speaker 1: got the horses in the secondary to figure this thing
Speaker 1: out before, long or are we still like a year
Speaker 1: or so away from seeing better play in that secondary defensive.
Speaker 1: BACKFIELD i think we're a year. Away.
Speaker 2: REALLY i think there's just there's experience, there but this
Speaker 2: is experience that got worked, over so it's finding new
Speaker 2: faces whoever those people. Are the good news is that
Speaker 2: they've recruited up front really, well so maybe maybe they
Speaker 2: don't have as much of a responsibility that they you,
Speaker 2: know the line can get to the quarterback, whatever because
Speaker 2: linebacker is also a. Question they're pretty green at. Linebacker
Speaker 2: SO i Just i'm not. There i'm not there WITH
Speaker 2: a AND m with that, Schedule so It's Trevor lawrence
Speaker 2: to a tongue Divil jake from and then. Whatever you,
Speaker 2: Know i'm pretty confident in giving the benefit of the
Speaker 2: doubt To Mississippi state that they're going to have a
Speaker 2: good offense With Joe. Morehead not, great but good this.
Speaker 2: YEAR i think Ls who's gonna be improved. Offensively they
Speaker 2: have weapons on the. Outside that's just it's. Tough auburn
Speaker 2: should be more creative and more dangerous than they were last.
Speaker 2: Year i'm just not there with this. SECONDARY i hope
Speaker 2: to be wrong because that would mean that we get
Speaker 2: a a crazy Competitive clemson.
Speaker 1: Game In week.
Speaker 2: Two they were very they were what two points? Away
Speaker 2: they went tight last, year kind of a funny play
Speaker 2: away last, year and they returned those. Receivers they Returned Kellen.
Speaker 2: Mond Travion williams is, gone BUT i Like Jayshawn. Corbyn
Speaker 2: HE'S i think he's a little bit more all purpose
Speaker 2: Than Travion williams. Was they're gonna be good on the,
Speaker 2: line but they're gonna need to win some thirty eight
Speaker 2: thirty five's to really have me.
Speaker 1: Confident they.
Speaker 2: Will they, will they, Will but, yeah they're the clear you,
Speaker 2: know seven and, five but look like a nine and
Speaker 2: three team a lot of the. Time so BECAUSE i
Speaker 2: phrased it like, that nine and three is my best
Speaker 2: case scenario for this brutal.
Speaker 1: Schedule that means incredibly. Brutal by the, Way, yeah four
Speaker 1: of the top six preseason, teams three of which are
Speaker 1: on the. Road not. Great that is not an easy.
Speaker 1: Schedule AND i don't care if You're, CLEMSON i don't
Speaker 1: care if You're. Alabama that is a really tough. Draw
Speaker 1: and it's interesting to kind of lay that on top
Speaker 1: of the fact that so many people are really high
Speaker 1: on an him this. Year i've been surprised at how
Speaker 1: high folks are on the, aggies if only because the
Speaker 1: schedule is just. Murderous it's. Impossible even if they improved
Speaker 1: by leaps and, bounds it's still it's still somewhat.
Speaker 2: Limiting, well It's jimbo with a good offensive roster and
Speaker 2: focus and, care we, think and that's you, know a,
Speaker 2: high high level. Combination SO i. AM i Like Kellen,
Speaker 2: mond but he was too all over the place last
Speaker 2: year for me to feel. Great he looked incredible Against
Speaker 2: clemson and then we SAW i think it Was, october
Speaker 2: some real down weeks from. Him SO i, mean the
Speaker 2: best case is nine to, three and that means It's
Speaker 2: clemson without their crazy pass rush that they had last.
Speaker 2: Year that he threw all Over clemson last.
Speaker 1: Year sure.
Speaker 2: That it's ascending to because he was sort of average last.
Speaker 2: Year it's ascending to very. Good it's getting improvement from the,
Speaker 2: secondary Which i'm not hopeful for but happily. Wrong and
Speaker 2: the worst case to, ME i don't think they go
Speaker 2: less than and lower than seven and, Five and that
Speaker 2: to me Means Kellen mond is, fine but not good
Speaker 2: enough to win eight or nine games in THE Sec
Speaker 2: west AGAINST, Lsu, Georgia, Alabama. Auburn these are crazy defensive.
Speaker 1: Lines it's.
Speaker 2: TOUGH i JUST i don't see, it SO i think
Speaker 2: there's wide variability. There So i'm looking at seven and
Speaker 2: five as not a crazy. Outcome all, Right, dan your
Speaker 2: final question here in THE Sec? West oh, WAIT i
Speaker 2: make this one? Count, okay you KNOW i. WILL i
Speaker 2: want to talk to you About. ARKANSAS i can't.
Speaker 1: Wait arkansas went two and ten last. Year mm. Hm
Speaker 1: but they were. Feisty you're not. Wrong they were, feisty
Speaker 1: particularly AGAINST lsu AND a and m, yep close calls
Speaker 1: that they. Blew i'm not gonna zoom in on any
Speaker 1: one position because clearly there were deficiencies across the board
Speaker 1: for The. RAZORBACKS i just want the general lay of
Speaker 1: the land. Here what is what is your sense for
Speaker 1: the direction of this program after twenty? Eighteen do you
Speaker 1: think we're closer to something that resembles more of a competitive?
Speaker 1: Squad are we still kind of in the midst of
Speaker 1: a slow? Rebuild where's your heart On?
Speaker 2: ARKANSAS i should point out they didn't blow THE a
Speaker 2: and M lsu, games but those were close. Calls they
Speaker 2: blew the games Against Ole miss And Colorado.
Speaker 1: State, yes.
Speaker 2: Correct What i'm feeling About arkansas is similar to what
Speaker 2: you feel when you spy on the construction workers building
Speaker 2: your patio right, Now, okay you just want to be seeing. That,
Speaker 2: okay there's crowd going, Down, okay tiles are going, in all,
Speaker 2: RIGHT i see they're putting the gas, line working on some, plumbing.
Speaker 2: Irrigation you just want to see that. Progress you want
Speaker 2: to see that things are moving towards the final. Product
Speaker 2: this is an excellent, metaphor And i'll tell you.
Speaker 1: Why because you're watching it as we. SPEAK i was
Speaker 1: actually watching it shortly BEFORE i came up to the.
Speaker 2: Studio but, oh, OKAY i thought you're, LIKE i was
Speaker 2: watching it while you were going on and on about you,
Speaker 2: know Justin, Jefferson, no, No, no.
Speaker 1: They've left for the. Day, Okay but as With, ARKANSAS
Speaker 1: i think a lot of the, work at least in my,
Speaker 1: backyard has taken place. Underground it's not been the kind
Speaker 1: of stuff that you can see with the naked. Eye
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of. Infrastructure it's been getting that
Speaker 1: layer of top soil to the place where you can
Speaker 1: actually put something on top of, it strip it, away
Speaker 1: put some, rocks lay some. Pavers that deal Is arkansas
Speaker 1: to a point now where they've finished the underlying drainage
Speaker 1: issues and are ready to start laying some techo block.
Speaker 2: Pavers, Also John chavis is your. Contractor that's. Correct, yeah
Speaker 2: it's a good one. Too, comparison it's apples to. Apples,
Speaker 2: yeah so the baseline you had a. Backyard arkansas had
Speaker 2: a bad twenty. Eighteen they couldn't, run AND i Like Rickem,
Speaker 2: boyd but as a, team they were not a good rushing.
Speaker 2: Team they definitely couldn't pass With Ty story And Cole.
Speaker 2: Kelly they're bad on third, down they were bad in
Speaker 2: the red. Zone they were actually they did generate some bigger,
Speaker 2: plays WHICH i think is a nice. Foundation, defensively they
Speaker 2: couldn't stop the. Run but they weren't abysmal against the.
Speaker 2: Pass yeah they were, Abysmal yes they, Were but like you,
Speaker 2: know the foundation you're, describing they did a decent enough
Speaker 2: job at stopping bigger, plays, which as we know From
Speaker 2: Bill c's five, factors you win the explosion, battle you're
Speaker 2: winning a. Lot so that's a good. Start quarterback, wise
Speaker 2: at the time of, RECORDING i think it's going to
Speaker 2: Be Nick, starkle but he's competing With Ben hicks who
Speaker 2: transfer FROM. Smu Nick, starkle he loses a job To
Speaker 2: Kellen mond AT a and m transfers To. Arkansas Racking
Speaker 2: boyd is. Back there's returning production behind. Him they're okay at.
Speaker 2: Receiver you know they have blue chips coming, in which is.
Speaker 2: PROMISING i know everybody's gonna be paying attention. There it's
Speaker 2: hard to know why where the receiver stand because quarterback
Speaker 2: play was so, Bad, yeah it, was SO i can't
Speaker 2: fully make a judgment call. THERE i like that they've
Speaker 2: recruited well and that there's early playing time opportunity. There
Speaker 2: offensive line is a huge. Question it's they don't have
Speaker 2: the experience AND i don't know if they have the.
Speaker 2: Talent we'll, see we'll see If Chad morris can scheme around.
Speaker 2: It the good news For arkansas they have two Legitimate
Speaker 2: ALL sec players on Defense. McTelvin a game comes back
Speaker 2: clearly a star wreck shop on the inside last year
Speaker 2: for The, hogs and you know the inside should be.
Speaker 2: Nice you, know defensive ends are a. Question and Then
Speaker 2: Dejon harris is at linebacker, Everywhere so as a starting,
Speaker 2: point the fact that they're good up front up the
Speaker 2: MIDDLE i like a lot With John chaves calling the.
Speaker 2: Place the secondary is the. Green it's a. QUESTION i
Speaker 2: think they're probably gonna get worked over more often than
Speaker 2: not this. Year but starting, point, yes very nice with
Speaker 2: a game In, harris so schedule, wise not a bad.
Speaker 2: Place there's a part of me that thinks With Portland,
Speaker 2: state you, know going To, Oxford Colorado, state And San Jose,
Speaker 2: state they could start out four and, oh which good
Speaker 2: For arkansas get all of those Wins october and Early.
Speaker 2: November Is auburn At alabama And Mississippi state consecutively not?
Speaker 2: Great so with that four and oh possibility in, MIND
Speaker 2: i think their best case scenario is they make A
Speaker 2: bowl best absolute winning fifty to fifty. Games Nick starkele
Speaker 2: or whoever comes in and looks competent compared to where
Speaker 2: they were last. Year the defense improves, too not good
Speaker 2: but not, horrible and the worst case scenario is three and.
Speaker 2: Nine The you, know there's a Reason Nick starkele And
Speaker 2: Ben hicks didn't work out at their previous. Places and
Speaker 2: the defense still just doesn't have enough. Dudes so a
Speaker 2: pretty wide. Swing BUT i think they could schedule their
Speaker 2: way to a. Bowl which important first step laying the,
Speaker 2: grout laying the. Irrigation, yeah and they're not in a
Speaker 2: place to fully. Grill they're not in a place to,
Speaker 2: entertain but they're happier and. Happier checking that nest sounds, Good,
Speaker 2: OKAY i like. It we got one team left, Here
Speaker 2: dan laid on, me all.
Speaker 1: Right so The Toledo.
Speaker 2: Rockets, no we have the most important team in THE. Sec,
Speaker 2: right the, doors, baby the. Doors last year was the
Speaker 2: first YEAR i look this Up Derek mason's tenure At
Speaker 2: vanderbilt in which neither the offense nor the defense the
Speaker 2: same season were full on. Embarrassing yes they were not,
Speaker 2: great sometimes they were just, bad but, overall neither the
Speaker 2: offense nor the defense was full on embarrassing over the
Speaker 2: course of the season as a. Whole was that a
Speaker 2: sign of things to? Come can they get to below
Speaker 2: average or average on both? Sides or was last year
Speaker 2: a ceiling with an upper classmic quarterback And Kyle schermer
Speaker 2: AND i guess a culmination of whatever it is That
Speaker 2: Derek mason is doing.
Speaker 1: THERE i think it was a culmination of some. Kind,
Speaker 1: okay so they're about to get worse. Somewhere they're gonna
Speaker 1: get worse this, year but it shouldn't overshadow What Derek
Speaker 1: mason's done In. Nashville Two bowl games in three. Years
Speaker 1: that's a big deal for THIS vandi. Program there's clearly
Speaker 1: buying among the. Players the offense was pretty good last.
Speaker 1: Year the issue that they encounter now in twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: is That Kyle schrver's, gone and they've also got an
Speaker 1: issue with three guys on the line needing to be,
Speaker 1: replaced five of their six top tacklers on defense And
Speaker 1: Juwan williams in the defensive backfield. Left that's a lot
Speaker 1: to try and, replace especially when you look at a
Speaker 1: schedule that sees them open the year at home Against
Speaker 1: Georgia trial By. Fire they've got a road game At,
Speaker 1: purdue which you, Know i'm not super high On, perdue
Speaker 1: but could be tricky. Early, Yep we've GOT. Lsu we've
Speaker 1: got a road game Against, florida a road game Against
Speaker 1: tennessee in. THERE i don't know what to expect from this. Team,
Speaker 1: well they owned the. State let's be, Clear vanderbilt owns the.
Speaker 1: State they do own the. State, sure, yeah BUT i
Speaker 1: feel better About tennessee in that game THAN i Do.
Speaker 1: Vandy they will Play tennessee, tight they will play them.
Speaker 1: TIGHT i you, KNOW i think six and, six seven
Speaker 1: and five is probably. DOABLE i just have so many
Speaker 1: questions about that quarterback position when you lose a guy
Speaker 1: Like Kyle, schrmer who granted wasn't the best quarterback on,
Speaker 1: earth but led a pretty good.
Speaker 2: Offense last. Year they were a step up from where
Speaker 2: they had been. Previous, yeah they were like fourth in THE.
Speaker 1: Sec SO i know what metric are using for. That but,
Speaker 1: OKAY i, UNDERSTAND i get. It i'm with. You i'm
Speaker 1: just trying to find a way to give the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt, here knowing that they've got a lot of.
Speaker 1: Losses i'm struggling with. It i'm feeling like six and
Speaker 1: six is probably where this team ends up in twenty.
Speaker 2: Nineteen So vanderbilt last year offensively and, defensively they finished
Speaker 2: with a net points per drive so offense minus defense
Speaker 2: of like the most average team in the. Country they
Speaker 2: finished sixty sixth fiftieth, offense and then eightieth on. Defense
Speaker 2: and that's improved from the previous year and way down
Speaker 2: still from the couple of years before. That another thing
Speaker 2: to note About vanderbilt And bowl. Eligibility they make The
Speaker 2: bowl last, year they lose To. Baylor really fun running
Speaker 2: back in What's Kishan.
Speaker 1: Vaughan, yeah.
Speaker 2: They were right there Against, kentucky so that you know
Speaker 2: they if they swing that fifty to fifty, game they
Speaker 2: go to what seven and five right there Against. MISZOO
Speaker 2: i Think maszoo has to come back to win that. Game,
Speaker 2: yes they do come back to win that. Game so
Speaker 2: you're talking a limited number of plays away FROM i,
Speaker 2: mean and a lot of teams can say, this of,
Speaker 2: course sure from eight. Wins they embarrassingly lost and this
Speaker 2: is going to happen when you don't have the talent.
Speaker 2: Level they lose to a noted aime team that doesn't
Speaker 2: score a touchdown in the playoff by five, points dear,
Speaker 2: you but can't have. That vandy's not far. Off they
Speaker 2: just it's they don't have the high end of, talent
Speaker 2: AND i would EXPECT i would expect. WITHOUT i, mean
Speaker 2: you did the deep dive on this, team so you
Speaker 2: would know better THAN. I i just it's weird for
Speaker 2: me to think About Derek mason having a defense that
Speaker 2: isn't at least average with where some of his previous
Speaker 2: defenses at Both vandy And stanford were so and how
Speaker 2: they've started out seasons but subsequently. BLOWN i would hope
Speaker 2: For vandy's sake that they're they're more competitive there because
Speaker 2: then it becomes a little bit more interesting BECAUSE i
Speaker 2: never Liked Andy, ludwig even With vandy as sending pretty
Speaker 2: nicely on all it.
Speaker 1: Could it could be additioned by subtraction as he moves. On,
Speaker 1: yeah but they promoted from, within so who. Knows all, Right,
Speaker 1: well there you, Go, dan there is our sec. Preview
Speaker 1: you had The, WEST i had The. East please do
Speaker 1: write in let us know your thoughts on. This we
Speaker 1: Have Alabama, GEORGIA i think, so do? You? YEAH i
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 2: TOO i think the common if we're gonna stick With,
Speaker 2: well If i'm gonna stick with my guns of quarterback and,
Speaker 2: DEFENSE i think those are the ANSWERS i would.
Speaker 1: AGREE i don't think in this case there's a need
Speaker 1: to overthink. It big surprise in The east is big
Speaker 1: surprise in The. East? Yeah Does missouri count as a? Surprise, no.
Speaker 2: It would be it would Be vanderbilt The, yeah it
Speaker 2: would Be, Vanderbilt South, Carolina tennessee as legitimate.
Speaker 1: SURPRISES i would be more inclined to Go. Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Okay in The, WEST i would, say, actually who would
Speaker 2: be a surprise in The west to? You, oh Miss
Speaker 2: yes would be a. Surprise, Arkansas, yes would be a.
Speaker 2: Surprise anybody else that you would consider a.
Speaker 1: Surprise it could be a surprise as a surprise in
Speaker 1: the other, direction maybe IF lsu falls?
Speaker 2: Short oh good, Call, okay my surprise Is auburn isn't?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 2: Okay that would be my BECAUSE i JUST i can't
Speaker 2: buy in on an ole Miss a and m. Schedules
Speaker 2: then they're neither good nor bad in my eyes right,
Speaker 2: now they have the potential to be, good BUT i
Speaker 2: gotta say more, So, Yeah auburn disappointing and losing some
Speaker 2: of those fifty to fifty games is my. Surprise all, right,
Speaker 2: well there you have. It we are going to post
Speaker 2: Our Fantasy things show On. Sunday we are planning as
Speaker 2: of recording, now to do what our group of five
Speaker 2: questions Preview, yes which will be released On tuesday, morning
Speaker 2: and then check your feed On thursday, morning bright and. Early,
Speaker 2: yes in time for your morning. Commute we will post
Speaker 2: the week one preview that everyone's excited. For we will,
Speaker 2: Probably i'm, assuming talk About week zero after the. Fact,
Speaker 2: yeah if that's okay with.
Speaker 1: You not enough games to do a full a full,
Speaker 1: preview and, honestly it's so difficult to do these preview
Speaker 1: shows in week one, anyway we'd probably be doing Both
Speaker 1: florida And miami a. Disservice i'd kind of like to
Speaker 1: see what they have BEFORE i talk about. Them can
Speaker 1: we give them a? Disservice so we're on the, record,
Speaker 1: THOUGH i, mean if you want to put your nuck out,
Speaker 1: there you're allowed to. Show. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah So miami is a seven and a half point
Speaker 2: dog at, home which means that you, can you, know
Speaker 2: search and scour for an appropriate sound if you have
Speaker 2: the soundboard in front of. You And.
Speaker 1: Hawaii is an eleven point dog at, home so you
Speaker 1: have not looked up. There it is home dog of the.
Speaker 1: Week i'm not touching either of these home dogs at
Speaker 1: the ten.
Speaker 2: Football other home dogs you can touch In i'm making
Speaker 2: sure these are all week.
Speaker 1: Zero, yeah you.
Speaker 2: Can you can Touch Youngstown, State, Sanford samford dog against
Speaker 2: Bo polini And, Villanova, Colgate colgate The gators a favorite
Speaker 2: against What's villanova The? Wildcats, yes you like The. Gators
Speaker 2: this is Pay Patriot league.
Speaker 1: ACTION i don't, know it's a little early for, That Dan,
Speaker 1: okay Our patriots is still.
Speaker 2: Forthcoming here's my. Neck i'm gonna take the. POINTS i
Speaker 2: Think miami covers at. Home florida. Wins all, right good,
Speaker 2: defense and it's going to be a difficult place to
Speaker 2: play because everybody is focusing on this game and It's.
Speaker 2: Miami they're gonna go out for this. GAME i don't
Speaker 2: know about later, games but good defense at. Home i'm
Speaker 2: taking the. Points it's one of my. Rules let's do.
Speaker 1: It and as a, tease we'll just say That Manny
Speaker 1: diaz is bringing the swag back to swagger back To, miami.
Speaker 2: Always bringing it, back and we Get Khalil tate AND
Speaker 2: Jj taylor on the. Islands will be. Fun All, right
Speaker 2: we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Go we're gonna post fantasy things this Weekend group of
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