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Speaker 1: in the chat from Mike Chandler, a true fucking warrior. Now,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a bonus episode, a bust
Speaker 1: with the Boys. Our boy Michael Chandler is sitting with
Speaker 1: us right now. Went to absolute war on Saturday night
Speaker 1: against Charles Oliver. Obviously didn't go the way you wanted.
Speaker 1: But even in a loss that you still win, dude.
Speaker 1: So let's give a rind of a pause to the
Speaker 1: legendary Mike Chandler.
Speaker 2: Round of applause to you guys. No place, no place
Speaker 2: I'd rather be a touchdown in Nashville yesterday. So we
Speaker 2: got to get on the bush and lose your drawl.
Speaker 2: This is where we go.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling? How's your body?
Speaker 2: Body is A body is jat. My heart is full.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about my heart.
Speaker 1: Okay, heart, let's start start with the heart.
Speaker 2: My heart is full, all right. I walked across the
Speaker 2: threshold yesterday. Happen ace put me in tears. I'm just
Speaker 2: happy to be home. Uh you know it was as
Speaker 2: good had I mean. I had a phenomenal training camp.
Speaker 2: We went to war. We did our thing. Body the
Speaker 2: most pain I've ever been in my entire life, Like
Speaker 2: the most injuries I've ever had in a fight, for sure,
Speaker 2: you know, Pete, blood inflammation all over my whole body swollen.
Speaker 2: I feel like it. You know, my legs wood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it like a dense color of blood.
Speaker 1: It was like a light pain.
Speaker 2: The first one was very light, which was in my
Speaker 2: drug test because New York drug testing me before the
Speaker 2: fight and then after the fight just as positive I
Speaker 2: tested positive for blood sure tested positive for that dog
Speaker 2: going nuts. But yeah, so they had like a light
Speaker 2: tent and then the second one was like uh, beat
Speaker 2: looking juice.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was dark.
Speaker 3: It hurt.
Speaker 2: No, really, I don't, well, like what is also my
Speaker 2: whole body hurt too? So at that point, you know.
Speaker 3: Starting from the pissing blood, what is that guy? Does
Speaker 3: that come from? Like a shot to the I.
Speaker 2: Think it's I mean, I think it's a little bit
Speaker 2: of rabdough, you know, like rabdo myalysis or whatever they
Speaker 2: call it.
Speaker 1: Overworking the muscles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're overworking the muscles. Your muscles secrete
Speaker 2: blood and then your blood. You know, the doctor's out there,
Speaker 2: don't fact check me, but it's like you know blood.
Speaker 2: Their blood goes into the kidneys, slash, liver, whatever wherever
Speaker 2: your your urine goes, and it gets trace amounts of
Speaker 2: blood in it, where whereas mine wasn't really trace amounts.
Speaker 2: It was a large amounts. But yeah, I've had it
Speaker 2: before many times. Anytime you have a five minute fight
Speaker 2: like or a five round fight like that, twenty five minutes,
Speaker 2: even if it's an quote unquote easy twenty five minutes,
Speaker 2: you're still hyped. Your body is doing things. You're in
Speaker 2: fight or flight mode for twenty five minutes, well, really
Speaker 2: thirty minutes plus plus the walkout, plus the after plus the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you think that starts to hit, the adrenaline
Speaker 1: rush of like you know, you're not gonna feel pain
Speaker 1: until probably twenty four hours later. Is that the walkout?
Speaker 1: Is that in the locker room right before you walk out?
Speaker 1: Is it the first punch?
Speaker 2: It's it's actually in the octagon. Yeah, it's like once
Speaker 2: you're in there, because I try to stay pretty present, man.
Speaker 2: I try to stay pretty present and pretty myself and
Speaker 2: really just focus on being a human being. And as
Speaker 2: soon as the cage door closes and then Bruce is
Speaker 2: in there, it's kind of one of those deals where
Speaker 2: it's maybe like a kickoff or like whatever, where it's
Speaker 2: like I'm in the game's about to start, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, then you all a sudden you're
Speaker 2: running down the field or the first play and you're like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 2: we're actually in it now, and then then you start
Speaker 2: you know, usually for me, it's it's like, oh man, okay,
Speaker 2: here we go. We're actually walking toward each other. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's the five you know, there's the first handshake, we
Speaker 2: touched each other, clocks running, we're going, and then you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of waiting to take that first punch just
Speaker 2: to be like, okay, here we are, right, yeah, hopefully
Speaker 2: it's not a big one. Hopefully it's just like a
Speaker 2: nice get.
Speaker 1: The first yeah, you know, always into the age old phrase,
Speaker 1: get that first hit out of the way, feel a whole
Speaker 1: lot better than your nerves are huge right before, like
Speaker 1: all the doubts, the insecurities, the wondering, the overconfidence. I
Speaker 1: think it's all like a flush of emotions all at.
Speaker 3: Once to doubt your overconfidence in my too, like yeah,
Speaker 3: why do I feel good?
Speaker 1: I shouldn't feel this good? And then you start feeling
Speaker 1: bad all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: Now, and then once you're in it, you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: now we're in it. Now. Now the body's just doing.
Speaker 2: Your training is taking over your your reaction time, your
Speaker 2: you know, your spirit so.
Speaker 1: Before the fight, so Will and I had a cool
Speaker 1: unique perspectives because Will was watching it over so he
Speaker 1: was able to hear the commentators. I obviously was there.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of it, but the but as
Speaker 1: you were walking out, Will was saying that Rogan's like,
Speaker 1: I know you're going to see a new Michael Chanley here.
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't think I know. Do you
Speaker 1: think Olive Aaron knew you were going to strategically go
Speaker 1: about this differently. If Rogan was so so clearly understood
Speaker 1: the process.
Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing was, I knew I was going
Speaker 2: to but I also in my interviews, I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't want to talk about it too much. It's like
Speaker 2: I did the whole. I talked about the whole Chandler
Speaker 2: two point oh, Chandler one point zero. Maybe gave it
Speaker 2: a little bit of too much information because I still,
Speaker 2: I honestly wanted Charles Olivera to feel like he was
Speaker 2: fighting Michael Chandler for twenty twenty one. I wanted him
Speaker 2: to think he was fighting the guy who fought in
Speaker 2: my last fight against Poorier in twenty twenty two. I
Speaker 2: wanted him to think that was the guy he was fighting. Therefore,
Speaker 2: when I switched the game plan up on him a
Speaker 2: little bit, you know, it would be a different fight
Speaker 2: and I throw him into a scenario. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: Unfortunately the word got out that I was going to
Speaker 2: fight a little bit differently, and I, you know, and
Speaker 2: I did, who's the old Who's the rat? I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it was I think it was me, your
Speaker 2: own rat. I think, well, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 2: I was like, I, you know, but but no matter
Speaker 2: what I mean, the narrative was, you could not hide
Speaker 2: it from the fact that I hadn't fought for two years.
Speaker 2: You had to talk about the Connor situation, had to
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, the two year layoff, the training
Speaker 2: camp for fighting at one seventy different mindset and then
Speaker 2: going down to one fifty five. And I was just
Speaker 2: speaking more. Yeah, I'm just more of an open guy.
Speaker 2: I just I want my story to be told. I
Speaker 2: want to wear my heart on my sleeve. If I cry,
Speaker 2: I cry, if I get mad, I get mad. I
Speaker 2: just want to be myself and be authentically me. And
Speaker 2: in that obviously, I was just talking about my growth
Speaker 2: as a human being over the last two years, which
Speaker 2: was you know, hard times, tough times. You guys know
Speaker 2: the behind the scenes stuff as the boys of like
Speaker 2: the ups and downs of all of it. But I
Speaker 2: grew as a human and became a better man and
Speaker 2: fighter and athlete because of it. And then yeah, I
Speaker 2: just wanted to go out there a little bit more
Speaker 2: composed and calculated. Also, twenty five minutes is a lot different.
Speaker 2: It's almost like double the amount. It's almost double the
Speaker 2: amount of time as a three round four.
Speaker 1: When when's the last time you went a full fight.
Speaker 2: Twenty five minutes, man, Benson Henderson, Like twenty sixteen or twenty.
Speaker 1: Eighteen, Because every fight I think I've seen that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, peede blood after that one for sure, Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: passed out. Actually that I passed out in that fight.
Speaker 2: My my coach. I was unconscious on my feet. My
Speaker 2: eyes were open, but I was unconscious. My coach had
Speaker 2: to pick me up after the fourth round, right at
Speaker 2: the end of the round. Woke up in the corner.
Speaker 2: Finally came to as my coach behind me. Neil yelled
Speaker 2: something at me, and I was like what And I
Speaker 2: looked at Hinry. I was like, did we lose? Or
Speaker 2: is it over? He's like, no, we're going into the
Speaker 2: fifth round. Go you gotta go, and I'm like okay,
Speaker 2: and then yeah, we thought luckily luckily Uh, I mean
Speaker 2: that was just like a pure exhaustion slash, you know,
Speaker 2: lack of blood flow to the brain or whatever the
Speaker 2: hell was going on.
Speaker 3: But do shout out, n F what a fucking walk out?
Speaker 2: Shout out, what a walk out? Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 3: He made that song specifically for you in this fight.
Speaker 2: No, it was a song. It was a song. I mean,
Speaker 2: it would be really cool. I would love to actually
Speaker 2: lie lie. I was almost.
Speaker 3: Upset here in the commenting and going on because I
Speaker 3: was wanting to. I could hear the song and I'm like, God,
Speaker 3: everybody shut up to enjoy the lyrics happening, dude. The
Speaker 3: lyrics are so sick and it's and it's a little
Speaker 3: bit I mean the lyrics themselves, which we won't give
Speaker 3: I mean, any of them away.
Speaker 2: Because it's it's not out there yet, but but it's
Speaker 2: it's very much a uh.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I've always been the type of guy who's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not here to prove the doubters wrong. I'm here to
Speaker 2: prove my supporters right. I I don't really have a
Speaker 2: chip on my shoulder. I'm more of a you know,
Speaker 2: just like I just want to do my thing and
Speaker 2: be an athlete who works hard to kind of positivity stuff.
Speaker 2: And then over the last two years, I'm like, f everybody, Man,
Speaker 2: f everybody. I'm a different man, and I deserve this.
Speaker 2: I deserve to freaking absolutely smash this life that we call,
Speaker 2: you know, our existence. And uh I love the haters,
Speaker 2: love the haters.
Speaker 1: Man, there's a special place for him.
Speaker 2: There's a special, special place, special place in my heart
Speaker 2: for him. Man.
Speaker 1: So when you're walking out right now, are you you
Speaker 1: look loose?
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 1: You seem like you're about it because we're all sitting
Speaker 1: there being like, yeah, as your friend, we're thinking he
Speaker 1: hasn't fought in two years. McGregor is out there. Two
Speaker 1: weeks before that fight, McGregor breaks a little tiny peaky toe.
Speaker 1: He's now out, he's dipped out for the first time.
Speaker 1: And you career, what's gonna happen to Mike? Now you're
Speaker 1: in this limbo? Do you wait for Connor? Still? You
Speaker 1: have ce fighters are talking shit, haters are talking shit,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you get Charles Oliver,
Speaker 1: and now you went from fighting on one seventy and
Speaker 1: you're going to one fifty five. So there's all these
Speaker 1: different things that could allow you to stiffen up a
Speaker 1: little bit. And then you walk out and you seem loose, confident, poised, controlled,
Speaker 1: like you just seem like Michael Chandler, like the ultimate confidence. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: are you actually feeling that or is that like I
Speaker 1: got to put this on a little bit fickety and
Speaker 1: make it type of thing, because it has been a
Speaker 1: while since I've.
Speaker 2: Been No, I was man like, I I mean that.
Speaker 2: And that's when you just know you're doing exactly what
Speaker 2: you were called to don It's it's it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if I was out for ten years. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if I was injured, it doesn't matter if there's stuff
Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes, it doesn't matter. None of
Speaker 2: that stuff matters, man, because you're doing exactly what you
Speaker 2: were called to do, and this is where you were
Speaker 2: supposed to be. There's nowhere else in the entire world.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to be then in Madison Square Garden
Speaker 2: at that moment, right, you know, And and I was
Speaker 2: built for this thing, and I was I was I
Speaker 2: was bred for it, and uh, it's it was an
Speaker 2: a awesome you know. It was a little bit more like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's take it in because you haven't done this. You know.
Speaker 2: I've did a lot of visualization closing my eyes when
Speaker 2: I was in our octagon inside of our gym down
Speaker 2: in Florida and like imagining the crowd and the lights
Speaker 2: and the feelds and even during the you know, I
Speaker 2: hadn't been in the locker room like that warming up
Speaker 2: for two years. Needed to go out to MSG. I
Speaker 2: like they were like, you can't go out there. I
Speaker 2: was like, all right, cool, and then I like walked
Speaker 2: out anyway and they were like no, seriously, like come on,
Speaker 2: come on, and they were like pulling me out. But
Speaker 2: I went out to the arena smelled it, like you
Speaker 2: gotta smell it, you gotta feel it, you got to
Speaker 2: hear you gotta hear it because there's twenty thousand people
Speaker 2: there and they're all talking and that all of their
Speaker 2: hearts are beating, and there's a bunch there's an energy
Speaker 2: out there, right, and there's a smell, and there's a field,
Speaker 2: and there's a taste and there's all of these different
Speaker 2: senses going on. And I hadn't smelt it in two
Speaker 2: years of actually being the guy who was going to
Speaker 2: be in the arena, and it all just came back, man,
Speaker 2: And you know, getting in there and kind of walking around,
Speaker 2: the first time I had touched the cage to my
Speaker 2: back in two years, the first time I had felt
Speaker 2: the canvas on my feet in two years, the first
Speaker 2: time I had been in an arena with all of
Speaker 2: those different emotions going on around me.
Speaker 3: Right, how hard is it to not get too high?
Speaker 3: Like once you do step in the octagen and you
Speaker 3: are drinking it all in, it's like, hey, I need
Speaker 3: to focus on my breathing.
Speaker 1: Here it is, it is And you got your trump
Speaker 1: and musk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I mean.
Speaker 1: The great tailor there, Yeah, the greatest the point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the greatest crowd of witnesses, you know, man, I
Speaker 2: mean that's that's pretty That's a freaking really really cool,
Speaker 2: uh little row up there, cage side, And yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean I did have to pull myself back down because
Speaker 2: that was that was the biggest thing with me. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I will touch gloves and go balls to the wall
Speaker 2: until the wheels fall off and I go out on
Speaker 2: my shield and my heart explodes or whatever happens. But
Speaker 2: this fight, I wanted to be more present, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to breathe, and I wanted to feel my heart beat.
Speaker 2: I wanted to control my thoughts. I wanted to actually
Speaker 2: make decisions in there instead of my body just doing
Speaker 2: just doing and reacting, you know. And I and I
Speaker 2: did that, but I needed to come back down because
Speaker 2: I did get a little bit hyped up as I
Speaker 2: walked in. I'm like, hell, yeah, let's do this. I
Speaker 2: remember this, this is what I let's let's Then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, the cooler head prevailed where
Speaker 2: it was like, wait a second, bro, bring it down,
Speaker 2: you know, and breathe a little bit, and and and
Speaker 2: realize that you're about to go into a job, in
Speaker 2: a profession, and in a contest instead of a war,
Speaker 2: instead of a battle, you know, going back to the
Speaker 2: trying to win by a thousand instead of trying to
Speaker 2: win by one, you know. And and I just truly
Speaker 2: thought me trying to win by one, I was still
Speaker 2: gonna win by a thousand.
Speaker 3: And needed to wait on the moment presenting itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the U when all of air is coming
Speaker 1: out and you're pacing back and forth, so the music changes,
Speaker 1: Like does that affect you at all when you hear it?
Speaker 1: When you hear that, I just want to feel all
Speaker 1: the things you.
Speaker 2: Were Yeah that uh yeah, I mean that's a little
Speaker 2: disappointing because then you're like, man, I'm having I'm enjoying
Speaker 2: my music and I'm enjoying my moment and you're like, oh, shoot, okay,
Speaker 2: and I gotta have a five minutes where it's all
Speaker 2: about him and I gotta you know, now we're But
Speaker 2: I think that was when I started kind of get
Speaker 2: locked in where it was like, oh, shoot, now the
Speaker 2: guy who's about to try to take everything from me
Speaker 2: is walking into the arena.
Speaker 3: Not only walking in the arena, but hugs you hug yeah,
Speaker 3: any party you want to slip him.
Speaker 1: And I knew yeah, no, I knew that. And you
Speaker 1: need to stab in the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah No. Me and Charles are very respectful. Man.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt at bat it both of you.
Speaker 2: Guystimate it's a big hug, you know, God bless you
Speaker 2: type of thing like dude, I'm just happy you're here.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's one thing too, like you talk about.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at Chris Widman. Chris Widman woke up
Speaker 2: on November sixteenth thinking he was gonna fight, probably to
Speaker 2: a phone call saying hey, sorry Eric Anders is injured,
Speaker 2: sick or whatever, pulling out of the fight. I'm just
Speaker 2: happy you're here because now we both get paid, we
Speaker 2: both get to fight. We both like this thing is
Speaker 2: actually happening, you know. So it's a there's part of
Speaker 2: that where you're just like, man, thank god it's here,
Speaker 2: because up until that moment, nothing is guaranteed, you know,
Speaker 2: until that cage door actually locks, like, nothing is actually guaranteed.
Speaker 2: So then then it starts to get a little bit
Speaker 2: more real. You hear his music. His music is awesome.
Speaker 2: I don't understand it because it's Brazilian or Portuguese whatever,
Speaker 2: but it's a totally different but it's a cool it's
Speaker 2: a cool song. Sounds like a worship song or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's.
Speaker 1: It's a Yesterday sometimes dude in the car.
Speaker 2: Over there, dude. But that yeah, that's kind of the
Speaker 2: moment where you're like, Okay, now it's you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's no longer about my walk out. I'm actually in here.
Speaker 2: Oh and that guy's coming out and you're kind of like,
Speaker 2: you know, you make an eye contact, are you looking
Speaker 2: at him? Are you now? You're now you're also still
Speaker 2: questioning yourself, like how are you gonna play this. You're
Speaker 2: gonna like mean mug him, You're gonna freaking you're gonna
Speaker 2: lock eyes and kind of do one of those numbers.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna look him at all, which sometimes people
Speaker 2: are like, oh, he does not looking at him, looking
Speaker 2: at him at all, which shows lack of confidence. And
Speaker 2: sometimes it's a high level of confidence to not look
Speaker 2: at your opponent at all, like Jose Aldo was a
Speaker 2: was a perfect example of that. He would he would
Speaker 2: go face to face with the guy and just look
Speaker 2: down and kind of like look at his feet the
Speaker 2: whole time, would never never make eye contact. Yet he
Speaker 2: would go out there and absolutely smash somebody. He wasn't
Speaker 2: afraid of them, you know. So it was it's an
Speaker 2: interesting it's an interesting vibe, but it.
Speaker 3: Was just a game being played at all times.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's mental warfare, just like people just playing chess.
Speaker 2: Well their piece is in certain but it's but it's
Speaker 2: funny too, right, because we're all human beings, like we're
Speaker 2: we're all we all must play by the rules of
Speaker 2: human nature and and succumb to to just being a
Speaker 2: human and the thoughts that are going on, the biological
Speaker 2: things that are happening inside of there. Where's your heart rate?
Speaker 2: And all these different things. We're a human being, but
Speaker 2: you get looked at differently because you're an athlete, and
Speaker 2: then even kind of even more different because you're fighting
Speaker 2: in an octagon with a very little rules, you know,
Speaker 2: but we're just human beings trying to figure it out,
Speaker 2: and every single time is different.
Speaker 3: You talk about being thankful that he you know, he's there.
Speaker 3: You guys are both there, the fight's gonna happen, you're
Speaker 3: both gonna get paid and whatnot. Whenn't there rumors of
Speaker 3: him possibly backing out? Yeah, we're dropping out? Was it
Speaker 3: due to injury?
Speaker 2: It? Well, so, I I never really got any kind
Speaker 2: of confirmation other than my my manager called me like
Speaker 2: two days after that that news rumor kind of broke
Speaker 2: and I didn't even think anything of it. I think
Speaker 2: it was more there was some games misship I think
Speaker 2: happening because it's like, hey, this happened to Chandler three
Speaker 2: months ago, two weeks before the fight. Let's uh let's
Speaker 2: leak something. And it was Brazilian media, so I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was his coach saying something or what,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't worried about it at all. I just
Speaker 2: kept training and I knew it wasn't me, so yeah,
Speaker 2: it had to be him, But I think it was
Speaker 2: all just.
Speaker 3: The thing, and this is better than not fucking happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, your thoughts go there, You're like, well, shoot,
Speaker 2: would I take another fight? Whoul? Who would they match
Speaker 2: me up against? It's it's a short notice fight, so
Speaker 2: then people think we'll shoot, it's an easy fight because
Speaker 2: a guy's probably coming off the couch, But actually it's
Speaker 2: not an easy fight because you're like, it's a brand
Speaker 2: new opponent and that guy's got nothing to lose. Like,
Speaker 2: I love that idea. If Hunter called me and it
Speaker 2: was like, hey, you want to step in and fight
Speaker 2: this guy on two weeks and I said to be like, hell, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: I got nothing to lose, but he gonna pay me.
Speaker 2: Let us sweep, let it fly, and if after a
Speaker 2: round and a half my gas tank goes, you don't
Speaker 2: really lose because you weren't training.
Speaker 1: For the Ultimate Insurance Policy it's you know what it is.
Speaker 2: It's Nate Diaz versus Connor one. Yeah, remember that it
Speaker 2: was on eleven days notice. Diaz had nothing to lose whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Connor had everything to lose because he was training for
Speaker 2: ten weeks leading up to the fight, and he goes
Speaker 2: out there and loses. He gases out and Diaz doesn't somehow,
Speaker 2: and he had nothing to lose and went out there
Speaker 2: and won, shocked the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, round one. So you're coming out with a
Speaker 1: new mic two point zero. You get in there and
Speaker 1: you you feel it from like the beginning, the first
Speaker 1: ten seconds the fight. You guys are floating around a
Speaker 1: little bit. He does a little leg kick, you kind
Speaker 1: of move it out of the way, and it already
Speaker 1: feels in the building like, oh, this is way different
Speaker 1: than we all expected. What at what point do you
Speaker 1: think he fully realized that this is a new mic
Speaker 1: he's fighting.
Speaker 2: Well, I know we went to the ground at some
Speaker 2: point in the first round, within like the first two
Speaker 2: the time. So I think that first the first couple,
Speaker 2: the first couple exchanges, just just navigating and actually letting
Speaker 2: the fight progress instead of instead of forcing myself into
Speaker 2: the fight, let the fight progress and if he lands
Speaker 2: a shot or I land a shot or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: let's just, you know, let's just get in here, let's
Speaker 2: move around a little bit rather than rather than going
Speaker 2: right into the fire. And yeah, things were going well
Speaker 2: until that, you know that, uh first takedown really and
Speaker 2: then got on the ground and then he but then
Speaker 2: even then, I also it shows my growth instead of
Speaker 2: trying to force my way out of the position, I
Speaker 2: was completely okay saying for the first time in my life,
Speaker 2: I concede to day around. I let him stay on
Speaker 2: I let him stay on top, and I let him
Speaker 2: win the round because I had twenty more minutes to fight.
Speaker 3: And in your in your head, are you thinking too, like,
Speaker 3: don't force anything here, you need your gas stake. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're preparing for a five round fight.
Speaker 2: That was exactly what it was like I was. I
Speaker 2: looked over at the clock. I've never seen a clock
Speaker 2: ever in my thirty two fight career. I've never looked
Speaker 2: at a clock, never wondered what time it was, never
Speaker 2: heard my coach say thirty seconds, one minute, whatever. I've
Speaker 2: never never worried about it because I'm in there fighting,
Speaker 2: Whereas there I was not really fighting. I was strategic.
Speaker 2: I was I was like chart well number two. Even
Speaker 2: more importantly, the greatest submission artist in UFC history is
Speaker 2: on top of you, yeah, with your leg and my
Speaker 2: left leg freaking up in a knee bar type of
Speaker 2: position where you're one second away from him attacking that
Speaker 2: and snapping my leg off. Plus he's on yeah, bus
Speaker 2: he's on top and and you know he he you know.
Speaker 2: I went back and watched the fight and Joe and
Speaker 2: and like the commentators like those elbows he landed, he
Speaker 2: didn't land it one one elbow on me whatsoever. They
Speaker 2: all looked like they landed, but they all glanced off
Speaker 2: my arm or glanced off like the side of my head.
Speaker 2: And I remember laying in there like he threw one.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, thank you Jesus. That was good,
Speaker 2: because there was freaking, like three different times a couple
Speaker 2: of those elbows were absolute fire balls coming at me
Speaker 2: with his bony, freaking long elbows, and none of them landed,
Speaker 2: and and I was just like, I'm gonna sit here,
Speaker 2: and then pushed them like as soon as the bell
Speaker 2: ring pushed them off me, walked to my walk to
Speaker 2: the to the stool are.
Speaker 3: There ever, times where you feel like you're in trouble
Speaker 3: when he's got your back, is you're talking about rewatching
Speaker 3: it and you're hearing the commentator, they're like, Chandler could
Speaker 3: be in a lot of trouble here if he just
Speaker 3: you know, he can't give him his back, he can't
Speaker 3: do this, like this is a very dangerous spot for
Speaker 3: Mike to be this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that is his favorite spot to be
Speaker 2: in a fight, right, I mean he finished poor finished
Speaker 2: Gaegee finished. So many guys, he's got, however many twenty
Speaker 2: something submissions or something like that, over a million dollars
Speaker 2: in bonuses. The guy's got, right, you guys are probably
Speaker 2: looking at how many freaking rear naked chokes he has.
Speaker 2: It's probably half of his submissions are rear naked chokes.
Speaker 2: Because he's the perfect body type. If you go back
Speaker 2: and watch how long his forearms are, it's crazy, and
Speaker 2: they're not big. They're bony and they're skinny, but he's
Speaker 2: still strong. So he's got really long arms and he's
Speaker 2: got really long legs. So he's gonna he's gonna lock
Speaker 2: that figure four up around the body. Yeah, and freaking
Speaker 2: squeeze your guts out, separate your freaking rib.
Speaker 3: And that one was happening.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he got it, and uh.
Speaker 1: Is that the one you like fully stretched out over there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's when I think DC and Ruggan we're
Speaker 3: going back and forth like, oh, he's been here before,
Speaker 3: and then I think somebody corrected the other. So you
Speaker 3: got to remember that was in the first round of
Speaker 3: the last fight, Like this is different because tanks, you know,
Speaker 3: guys are wearing out a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was good. It was good
Speaker 2: once you start getting sweaty, because I do remember that too,
Speaker 2: being in that first round. He gets on top of
Speaker 2: me and you can you can feel the guy you're
Speaker 2: holding on too, and it's like it's sticky and you're sticky.
Speaker 2: Is not good when you're fighting Charles Alavera. Second round,
Speaker 2: third round, fourth round, when you're the sweat is flowing,
Speaker 2: everything gets a little bit more slippery or obviously and
Speaker 2: then you're in a better spot. But you're also always
Speaker 2: in danger against Charles. But I've got good, you know,
Speaker 2: pretty good defense and keeping the hand control, and.
Speaker 1: When you're when in those three rounds, when you're on
Speaker 1: the ground all those times you always talk about being
Speaker 1: aware of him and how good he is. Was there
Speaker 1: ever a point where you're like, oh, fuck, like he's Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was because there's a like you talking about hand
Speaker 1: control all that. There's just things that I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Will you do a little bit because you did wrestling,
Speaker 1: But like I'm watching on the ground, I got JP
Speaker 1: in my air being like he's doing this well and
Speaker 1: that well, I'm just thinking to myself, I know he's
Speaker 1: good on the ground. Were you ever like if he
Speaker 1: does this? One thing I am.
Speaker 3: Fucked was because one time he like had Mike's face
Speaker 3: it seemed like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the fourth round I think it was
Speaker 2: or third round, third or fourth round, Yeah, he had
Speaker 2: he had a full on rear naked choke in there
Speaker 2: two different times and I was able to pull pull
Speaker 2: the arm down and then I also planted my elbow
Speaker 2: and did this number. So I had kind of a
Speaker 2: kickstand going on there where he couldn't get the elbow
Speaker 2: when any shorter. But I definitely had a moment or
Speaker 2: two where because you know when you're about to go out,
Speaker 2: if you can feel it where the crowd goes, you know,
Speaker 2: it starts to get starts to sound like you're in
Speaker 2: a tunnel type of situation where you're like, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: not that far away from being choked out right.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, hit the crowd understand, I should understand while.
Speaker 2: Your heart beats going one thousand miles an hour and
Speaker 2: your body's doing all kinds of biological stuff. But that
Speaker 2: was but I just remember, you know, I I wasn't
Speaker 2: you know, there was just things weren't going well in
Speaker 2: there as far as distance and movement and and my
Speaker 2: footing and and all that kind of stuff. And then
Speaker 2: even being on the ground, I was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: moving well on the ground. But I also don't want
Speaker 2: to force positions I'm I was. When I walked into
Speaker 2: that fifth round, I thought, Okay, this is where right
Speaker 2: where I was supposed to be thwart off all the attacks.
Speaker 2: Let him do his grappling stuff, let him wear down,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna finish him in the fifth. I had
Speaker 2: the plan of being being there later in the rounds
Speaker 2: to finish him in the fourth or fifth, and I
Speaker 2: knew that's right where I was, you know, wanting to be.
Speaker 2: But so I was just okay with those positions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you lose go ahead you you brought up
Speaker 1: I mean obviously before we get to the fifth. That's
Speaker 1: the money fire, the money part of the fight. It
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. But you talked about like you losing your footing.
Speaker 1: You didn't feel like you were moving around too well,
Speaker 1: like what you took a bagel' blee kick in the
Speaker 1: leg and it seemed like that that was wobbling like crazy.
Speaker 1: And then I see you. I think it was after
Speaker 1: the second round, jab second or third, You're doing like
Speaker 1: the foot thing in the corner. It seemed like you
Speaker 1: were just trying to grab some sort of grip. So
Speaker 1: you it seemed like you were understanding that, like maybe
Speaker 1: you weren't mechanically working correct. It wasn't your legs, was
Speaker 1: your shoulder? Like what was going on?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not I will not say anything until I
Speaker 2: get an MRI. But yeah, so I think something happened
Speaker 2: to the knee in that first exchange where he had
Speaker 2: the leg and I did like a full three sixty.
Speaker 2: He did like a little knee bar thing. Because I
Speaker 2: walked back to the stool and I looked down on
Speaker 2: my left leg and it was not working right. It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't stepping. It wasn't catching, it was unstable. It
Speaker 2: was weird. And then and then yeah, during the fight,
Speaker 2: it was like the because you spar all these rounds
Speaker 2: and you know what it feels like. I've been fighting
Speaker 2: for fifteen years, you know what it feels like to
Speaker 2: be on a solid foundation, to walk forward, plod forward,
Speaker 2: move forward, attack, And I just wasn't moving backwards. It
Speaker 2: was no problem. So my body in my brain was
Speaker 2: telling me moving backwards is cool, but moving forward planting
Speaker 2: and being in his face and being in that pressure,
Speaker 2: like even if you go back and watch the fifth,
Speaker 2: if you really watch the fourth and fifth, whenever I
Speaker 2: was kind of pursuing him, my legs were almost just
Speaker 2: my my left leg was just like almost like flopping
Speaker 2: rather than stalking and moving forward, you know. And I
Speaker 2: remember and Robbie Lawler is such a freaking badass Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer in some of the craziest fights ever, and
Speaker 2: I was just like, I can't get my footing. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to figure out my footing, and he's like, well,
Speaker 2: you better figure it out. And I was like, you're right, Robbie.
Speaker 1: Shit, it's like.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was uh yeah, man, I mean we'll
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see what happened. But yeah, essentially for
Speaker 2: about twenty three minutes of that fight, I don't know
Speaker 2: if the leg was really working that well.
Speaker 3: How does it feel right now?
Speaker 2: Not great?
Speaker 3: Not great, not great?
Speaker 1: How did you How did your feel before the fight?
Speaker 2: The right knee? The right knee, you had some stuff
Speaker 2: going on, and I think I think we're gonna get
Speaker 2: that cleaned up for sure. But I've had that for
Speaker 2: like two years. But the leftnee is like the worst,
Speaker 2: the worst I've ever felt on any kind of injury whatsoever.
Speaker 2: But it's you know, it's a fight, man, it's you.
Speaker 2: You figure it out. And I'm also, uh, my default
Speaker 2: is never okay, where where's my excuses? Where's my where's
Speaker 2: my excuse? Buttons? You know, like I don't have those.
Speaker 2: So I was just I was like, well, it must
Speaker 2: be my fault. It must be my footing. It must
Speaker 2: be you know, the canvas. It must be like I
Speaker 2: got to get my feet wet, you know, I was
Speaker 2: trying to getting my feet wet in between every single round,
Speaker 2: like spitting water out, pouring water out, getting water on
Speaker 2: my feet. Because and then now when I go back
Speaker 2: and watch the fight because I know how I move,
Speaker 2: I know what I look like. I got my my
Speaker 2: last couple sparring sessions of how I move and what
Speaker 2: my foundation looks like on my feet, and it just
Speaker 2: was not the same at all. So it's a weight
Speaker 2: bearing issue, slash balance issue, slash whatever. But I felt like,
Speaker 2: how many times did I fall in that fight?
Speaker 1: Up?
Speaker 2: I'm a pretty I'm a decently athletic guy. Like I'm pretty,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty athletic.
Speaker 1: If you look at the softball game you you made
Speaker 1: things were more difficult to show off that.
Speaker 2: And like, I've got a fly bone then just jumped
Speaker 2: just catch it. And I'm better at fighting than I
Speaker 2: am softball. But like I I just kept falling, like
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't I don't really fall, you know, you.
Speaker 3: You talk about even even the second round that you
Speaker 3: know you ultimately had to kind of concede and figure out.
Speaker 3: But ultimately it let going on to the ground because
Speaker 3: you tripped on the cage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I cut my foot, freaking just did something my
Speaker 2: damn hand here. I looked down at my thumb because
Speaker 2: I think my thumb went back and touched my wrist. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, so I got amr on that on that
Speaker 2: as well. But yeah, I mean it's, uh, that's why
Speaker 2: we love the sport.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 2: You got two dudes just freaking braving the unknown to
Speaker 2: bodily un bodily harm.
Speaker 3: Right, So when you go down three to oh and
Speaker 3: you going to that fourth round, are you thinking, all right,
Speaker 3: Chandler one point zero has to start coming out because
Speaker 3: I'm starting to run out of time because he's had
Speaker 3: he's had me on the ground, whether you can. You
Speaker 3: talked about conceding the first one and second one you
Speaker 3: kind of tripped and he had his way within the
Speaker 3: second round, third round, he's on top of you the
Speaker 3: whole time. Are you starting to like feel the conditioning
Speaker 3: were off of me? Like, all right, I gotta start
Speaker 3: taking some chances here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because also I didn't take any damage. I mean right,
Speaker 2: I mean that was the one thing I mean to
Speaker 2: me as an athlete. And I'm the hardest on myself,
Speaker 2: and obviously my wife is my biggest fan. She's gonna
Speaker 2: you know, she's got a skewed version and vision, as
Speaker 2: do you guys, probably, but she's like, yeah, he got
Speaker 2: on top of you and controlled you. But like, I mean,
Speaker 2: look at my face. I got a black guy. Part
Speaker 2: of the black eye too, was like I came down
Speaker 2: and headbutted his knee or something in the fifth round.
Speaker 2: Like I've jacked my face up more myself by going
Speaker 2: in and trying to throw punches and running into limbs
Speaker 2: more than actually getting punched in fights sometimes. But he
Speaker 2: wasn't doing damage. He was just getting.
Speaker 3: Control the fight. Like if it was yeah, you're showing
Speaker 3: the ride time and everything else. Yeah, control time.
Speaker 2: So like when it when it comes to that, I,
Speaker 2: if you actually look at it, I landed more strikes
Speaker 2: in the fight than he did, even though he controlled
Speaker 2: and had, you know, because because he would just take
Speaker 2: the back, do the body triangle and then kind of
Speaker 2: just do this number and we were just playing hand
Speaker 2: fighting for you know.
Speaker 1: When you're doing the back in the body triangle, Who's
Speaker 1: who's exerting more energy in those positions?
Speaker 2: I was. I was resting a lot, you know, like
Speaker 2: I and I and I and I say that that.
Speaker 2: I used to hate that word because I think guys
Speaker 2: pussy foot around. They don't fight hard enough, they don't
Speaker 2: you know, their two point fight tactically. But I was
Speaker 2: just like, well, hey, when Charles OLIVERA has your back.
Speaker 2: I can choose to force this and put myself in
Speaker 2: a bad situation. I can choose to exert a crazy
Speaker 2: amount of energy with a fifty to fifty shot of
Speaker 2: getting out. You don't get out, you try to create
Speaker 2: a scramble, your your cardio goes down. Maybe you put
Speaker 2: yourself in a bad spot. Get Armbard triangled, some something silly,
Speaker 2: or just let him, you know, let him do his thing.
Speaker 2: And I still got I mean, at that point in time,
Speaker 2: you're in the third round, You're like, dude, I still
Speaker 2: got twelve minutes left to fight. Twelve minutes is like
Speaker 2: an eternity inside of there when one punch can finish
Speaker 2: a fight. And I say that as as a guy
Speaker 2: who I'm proud of myself for actually being in there
Speaker 2: and fighting tactically and making conscious decisions rather than you know,
Speaker 2: the you know, Dana calls me the arturial Gotti of
Speaker 2: the UFC type of you know, it's like, that's great.
Speaker 2: I do love that. But also, man, I I was
Speaker 2: one hundred percent confident, one hundred percent positive that this
Speaker 2: is exactly the way it was supposed to be. I
Speaker 2: was going to be Charles Olivera. I was going to
Speaker 2: fight for the title next and this is the way
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be, and I had to fight
Speaker 2: that way as a real professional rather than just a
Speaker 2: guy who goes out there and entertains in a crazy,
Speaker 2: badass fight, get a bonus fight, could be up for
Speaker 2: Fight of the Year type of situation, which is all great,
Speaker 2: but man, I'm here for championships. So now that that
Speaker 2: ship is sailed.
Speaker 3: In defending off one of the best ground guys who's
Speaker 3: known for finishing on the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it, you know it, it needs
Speaker 2: to be said as well. It's like I've only got
Speaker 2: I've only lost the three guys in the UFC, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like I've lost to Charles. Every single guy that
Speaker 2: I've lost to has been ranked top two or three
Speaker 2: in the world at at that moment. It's Poorier, Gai Chee,
Speaker 2: and Olivera. Olivera choked out and finished Poorier and Gai Chee,
Speaker 2: you know, and he wasn't able to do it to me.
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's all all of those things. And
Speaker 2: it's either way. People can draw the conclusions that they want.
Speaker 2: People can love me, they can hate me, but we're
Speaker 2: having fun, we're winning, So thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean hard pressed to find, hard press to hate me.
Speaker 3: I mean that crazy Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you were sizing up. I was just gonna.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like after the fourth round, and
Speaker 3: in your mind you're like, all right, I'm down for
Speaker 3: like this is it? The guy gotta empty the clip?
Speaker 3: However I can. Yeah, you going into that fifth round, buddy,
Speaker 3: I came up off Mike. You're sitting there like, you know,
Speaker 3: we're watching from a different perspective, like you're talking about
Speaker 3: with Bree. It's like you're watching your brother. I you know,
Speaker 3: I remember watching Cody all the time, wrestling those feelings,
Speaker 3: and you're sitting there watching the fight on day like
Speaker 3: he's losing the fight. But all he needs is just
Speaker 3: he just needs to land of shot. He needs a
Speaker 3: land of shot. And you were being patient, like you're
Speaker 3: defending them off. You're happy every time. It's like he's
Speaker 3: got you for most around on the ground. It's all right.
Speaker 3: If he can last two and a half minutes here,
Speaker 3: then you end up doing it. He's checking the clock,
Speaker 3: he's getting to the corner. You can tell you're breathing fine,
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, he has to go in. This
Speaker 3: fifth round has to be when you landed that first one, dog,
Speaker 3: I tell you, I was so mad when you missed
Speaker 3: those two.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck because you had him, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: had him on the ground. I thought they were gonna
Speaker 1: call the fight because you're right, Like, because I.
Speaker 3: Got my phone out, I'm recording the TV. I'm like,
Speaker 3: come on, bro, you got it.
Speaker 2: You got to just go keep going.
Speaker 1: JP and I got our arms around each other, jumping
Speaker 1: in the air, like leaning over people, screaming like this
Speaker 1: is fucking eat because yeah, the first four it's like
Speaker 1: it seems you had your game plan. You did the
Speaker 1: game plan, it was what it was. But like you said,
Speaker 1: it's like you one punch and when you clip one
Speaker 1: moment he puts his hand like that, You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's fucking hurt, and then he falls down and then
Speaker 1: you start coming in with the elbows and the punches.
Speaker 1: I'm just staring at the ray of like fucking gollic
Speaker 1: call goll it, like screaming.
Speaker 2: Bro yeah nobody, yeah, no way. Nobody in the last
Speaker 2: couple of years has put Oliver in that position. And
Speaker 2: I put in that position twice in the first fight.
Speaker 2: In the second fight, and obviously he got finished by Islam,
Speaker 2: but that's his only loss. Well, Armine, but that was
Speaker 2: a kind of a hug fest, right, yeah, man, it was.
Speaker 2: And yeah, hindsight is always twenty twenty minutes. So it
Speaker 2: you go back and you're like, God, if you could
Speaker 2: just put me back in that moment, I would have
Speaker 2: just pushed off and I would have made him come
Speaker 2: back up and just But the other thing too, was
Speaker 2: I think I also knew you can just tell the
Speaker 2: way I was pursuing him. It was almost like I
Speaker 2: was like just tripping toward him. Yeah, you know, like
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not making excuses, but like it was.
Speaker 2: It was a weird r I was on the film.
Speaker 3: And still trying to be like, yeah, I could just
Speaker 3: go back to this.
Speaker 2: Last night I watched it and I was like, I
Speaker 2: was not happy.
Speaker 1: You could tell something was up in your legs because
Speaker 1: it seemed like you were walking on uneven surfaces.
Speaker 2: It was yeah, you know, we'll see. We cannot say
Speaker 2: anything until we get the MRI results or whatever.
Speaker 1: But yeah, right there, man, yeah I done.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's uh. And and the referee was right
Speaker 2: there dude, because I mean, he took like fifteen shots
Speaker 2: of the year, like fifteen, and I was like, is
Speaker 2: he gonna is this for? You're gonna freaking step in?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Are you thinking like it's over? Like is that?
Speaker 3: Because?
Speaker 2: Well, so the herd. The hard part is there's kind
Speaker 2: of an unspoken rule at this point. It's like it's
Speaker 2: got to be pretty definitive, like if if because I
Speaker 2: would want the exact same thing if I was up
Speaker 2: three rounds, four rounds to one or none and Charles
Speaker 2: Olivera clipped me, I would want the referee to not
Speaker 2: step in unless it's like life or death situation because
Speaker 2: I'm up. Just let me survive and I win the
Speaker 2: fight type of situation. And this is where, you know,
Speaker 2: this is where the my humility comes in, where I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: this is the sport and this is the way things
Speaker 2: are supposed to be. Like I completely get if it
Speaker 2: was a different fight. I think I think Keith Peterson finishes,
Speaker 2: finishes or steps in and pulls me off of him
Speaker 2: after he takes those fifteen maybe twenty shots, especially in
Speaker 2: the first few rounds. Yeah, but he's already up a
Speaker 2: couple of rounds there. So it's kind of like an
Speaker 2: unspoken rule, let this guy survive unless I need to
Speaker 2: save him, unless, you know. But he was in a
Speaker 2: bad Yeah, he was in a bad spot. I remember
Speaker 2: when he turned over and he looked at it. For
Speaker 2: some reason, his eyes were red like I don't know
Speaker 2: if freaking like they were red like bloodshot, and he
Speaker 2: was looking at me, but he wasn't really looking at me.
Speaker 2: He was like looking through me, cross eyed, and and
Speaker 2: just he was he was.
Speaker 4: Looking at God.
Speaker 2: He was all just in his head right there.
Speaker 3: He's like, I need to come back.
Speaker 1: You're good. That's a that's supposed to do that.
Speaker 5: When you're on top of him and you lean back
Speaker 5: and he Mike like took a few deep breasts and
Speaker 5: then just starts going back in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, And that's and that's one of
Speaker 2: Charles Charles's good things because he's he's been he's not
Speaker 2: the most dominant guy. If you watch him, you know,
Speaker 2: he some bad positions and guys hurt him. But he's
Speaker 2: but he's long and lanky, and he's and he could
Speaker 2: close his eyes and and and use his feet like hands,
Speaker 2: you know, and and tie you up and do these
Speaker 2: things with his big, old long limbs. So it was
Speaker 2: it's a tough position to be in because he's so
Speaker 2: good at being defensive in those positions because he's been
Speaker 2: in those positions so much. And that's what you have
Speaker 2: to be as a jiu jitsu artist. You are going
Speaker 2: to concede the position and let a guy be on
Speaker 2: top of you so you can triangle him and armbar
Speaker 2: him and do these things. But you still have to
Speaker 2: be very good. Whereas me, I'm not that way because
Speaker 2: I'm not ever on bottom like that, you know, with
Speaker 2: a guy on top of me usually, So you get
Speaker 2: in a position and you make one little mover, you
Speaker 2: let him advance a little bit, and then he's got
Speaker 2: you tied up and he's just hugging you with his
Speaker 2: legs or he's doing something, and then you can't land
Speaker 2: a good shot.
Speaker 1: Right, So remind me, so you have him, you have
Speaker 1: him down. I forget what happened next, because we thought
Speaker 1: it was over and the he was like putting it.
Speaker 5: He was like trying to go for your arm in
Speaker 5: some weird way. And then that's when I feel like
Speaker 5: it kind of got And so when you started to.
Speaker 3: See a little like you know, the conditioning as far
Speaker 3: as like it's the fifth round and you're just unloading
Speaker 3: the clip on him, Yeah, whereas your that's where you're
Speaker 3: like looking back and back. If I would have just
Speaker 3: stepped away and make him get.
Speaker 2: Up, yeah, but obviously you have to follow him. I
Speaker 2: mean that was when I you know, that's when I
Speaker 2: go back to it, and I had no weight. Like
Speaker 2: when you're on you when you're throwing a left hook,
Speaker 2: you want both your weight planted on both of your
Speaker 2: feet and if anything, a little bit more on your
Speaker 2: front foot because that's where you're all the power's coming
Speaker 2: from your left hip, which for me is my front hip.
Speaker 2: And I threw that hook with my left foot in
Speaker 2: the air because I wasn't putting weight on my left foot,
Speaker 2: and this whift fell. We did a complete three sixty,
Speaker 2: and we landed in a good spot for me to
Speaker 2: to land good damage. So I wouldn't have I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have stood us up. I wouldn't have stood up then
Speaker 2: right away. I would have tried to finish them right there.
Speaker 2: But as soon as the as soon as the action
Speaker 2: kind of stopped and I and I wasn't just dominating
Speaker 2: raining punches. It would have been nice to be able
Speaker 2: to just push them away and make them stand up.
Speaker 2: But here we are.
Speaker 1: And then he could see the ground what like a
Speaker 1: minute forty five, a minute thirty left, And yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the point we kind of knew, like all right, like
Speaker 1: did you know, like, all right, he's got me on
Speaker 1: the ground. This guy's the best ye ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here we are again. Yeah, here we are again.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, And he didn't do any damage. He
Speaker 2: just held me and hugged me and did his thing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, at that point, for him, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to really do anything, right, he's just to keep control.
Speaker 2: And then Chandler Chandler two point okay or Chandler one
Speaker 2: point oh reverted back where I was like, hey, now
Speaker 2: we're like, hey, I'm about to take this one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty pound man with one leg and stand up.
Speaker 1: Wattle his ass wattle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't do it right here. We got to
Speaker 2: walk to the middle of that monster can and freaking
Speaker 2: slam him twice. And I know it's like it's not like, hey,
Speaker 2: I mletna see if I can knock him out with
Speaker 2: this thing you did it. I was like, I mean
Speaker 2: it would have been actually the craziest thing ever if
Speaker 2: his he lost his breath or he freaking went unconscious.
Speaker 2: But obviously I there was a zero percent chance of
Speaker 2: that happening, really, but I was like, this is just
Speaker 2: for the fans. I looked right at freaking Donald Trump
Speaker 2: and Kid Rock on the first one, and then on
Speaker 2: the second one, as I was getting up, I was
Speaker 2: on three points and Hunter Campbell had his hands like this,
Speaker 2: and he was just like looking at me like this
Speaker 2: is freaking nuts, and we like locked eyes, and I
Speaker 2: was like and I smiled at him and just did
Speaker 2: it again for the second one.
Speaker 1: Dude, when you fucking that. The fifth round was maybe
Speaker 1: the most electric fifth round you could ever ever watch.
Speaker 1: You had him in the corner, he gets you on
Speaker 1: the ground. Like the range of emotions was crazy because
Speaker 1: we're screaming he's gonna do it. Then he gets you
Speaker 1: in the ground like man, it's over. That sucks, and
Speaker 1: then he sort of stand up and you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's he doing? What's he about to do right now?
Speaker 1: And you literally like it was like it was cinema.
Speaker 1: It was absolutely because you're like struggling to get up
Speaker 1: and he just holding on your back and you can
Speaker 1: see your legs shaking and your body's shaking. You're like,
Speaker 1: just the the power of an alpha male standing up
Speaker 1: for the people. Everyone's like, oh, because you can feel
Speaker 1: the crowd. The crowd was like, right, they got my back.
Speaker 1: Everyone and their mother's like all right, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: on the ground for the rest of the time. This
Speaker 1: fight's over. Let's get ready for the John Jones fight.
Speaker 1: And then when you start to quiver your way up
Speaker 1: with him, I was back like, wait a second, we'll
Speaker 1: get about it. They were like, holy shit, and you
Speaker 1: stand up, and then when you mouth fuck it yeah,
Speaker 1: And then on the back, I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: Yeah he might not. I in my dumb brain, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he might fucking knock him out.
Speaker 2: You might fucking do it. Well, what's really funny is
Speaker 2: we already have history. I did it in the first fight, right,
Speaker 2: And I think when he had my back that thought
Speaker 2: went through my mind a couple of different times during
Speaker 2: the fight. But I'm like, no, it takes a lot
Speaker 2: of energy. It's there's a one percent chance that it
Speaker 2: helps out and does something cool. It's just a cool,
Speaker 2: it's a wow factor type of situation. But with forty
Speaker 2: seconds left in the fight. You're like, let's wow, one,
Speaker 2: let's give seconds if.
Speaker 1: You yeah, go back to the other clip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like thirteen seconds left. Thirteen seconds left. That
Speaker 2: was the second one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude just walking through. He's got your leg. You're
Speaker 1: just fucking hobbling over. Yeah, and hey did you tap
Speaker 1: at the end?
Speaker 2: Well, so that I thank god.
Speaker 1: Because you were so ideal.
Speaker 2: Technically I kind of did. But it was more like
Speaker 2: a good job, buddy, he freaking did this, uh and
Speaker 2: kissed me. It was like a show of respect type
Speaker 2: of thing. It was like a good you know, like
Speaker 2: you never.
Speaker 3: Heard of.
Speaker 1: Respect.
Speaker 3: He just do the body things twice. He's hanging on
Speaker 3: your balls, just being showman.
Speaker 2: And yeah, what that was. That was like a moment
Speaker 2: for us. And I look back at it and people
Speaker 2: people were like, oh, he tapped, you should and like
Speaker 2: and but and that's where the referee did not. I
Speaker 2: guess you would say, like follow the rules. It's like
Speaker 2: if he saw a tap, he should, But he knows
Speaker 2: what's happening. He He's refed thousands of fights. Charles OLIVERA
Speaker 2: does not have a submission. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: his arms are loose around me. I'm not tapping. It
Speaker 2: was a it was a pat on the competitor, right,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I look back and I'm like, dude, thank god,
Speaker 2: that would have that would that would have sucked?
Speaker 1: Pulls it off left on the clock, I know.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, and it's but it was I think
Speaker 2: he knew what was happening there. We're both smiling, we're
Speaker 2: both dad's the fucking the it was elite.
Speaker 5: Before the fight, Bruce Buffer, did ad read for a
Speaker 5: Gladiator too? And then your fight happens. I'm like, whoever's
Speaker 5: in charge of Gladiator to put Mike in the trailer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's a coincidence that they waited
Speaker 2: till my fight to do that, you know, because obviously Gladiator. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well yeah, I guess are you not entertained? That's a
Speaker 2: freaking Gladiator damn, dude. Yeah, I need to I need
Speaker 2: to holler at the freaking they filmed that coming out
Speaker 2: out this week day man, kid rocks loser.
Speaker 1: You see Jelly's arm waving around.
Speaker 2: I will say I've been getting sent videos of the
Speaker 2: second slam because obviously the first one happens, and the
Speaker 2: whole entire Madison Square Garden is on their feet. The
Speaker 2: entire Madison Square Garden is on their feet, because especially
Speaker 2: when people saw me getting like struggling my way to
Speaker 2: my feet for the second one, people were like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: he's gonna do it again. Yeah, like, he's gonna do
Speaker 2: it again. We're about to see it again. And it
Speaker 2: was Devin, my buddy Devin, who sent me one where
Speaker 2: he's a little bit far back where you can kind
Speaker 2: of see twelve thousand of the twenty thousand people and
Speaker 2: they're all standing up and half of them were waving
Speaker 2: their hands in there. They're like, they're like, he's gonna
Speaker 2: do it again.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: You know it was insane.
Speaker 4: Mike United America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good brought it back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's ah, that's where the that's
Speaker 2: where the fight was out the window. At that point.
Speaker 2: It was just like, hey, we're I'm living my best life,
Speaker 2: Like I'm doing this right now and I'm gonna live
Speaker 2: my best life and we're gonna do something spectacular. What
Speaker 2: was it Dana said? And I love that he said it.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm in the business of making holy shit moments.
Speaker 2: You know, that's what he does. That's what he sells.
Speaker 2: He doesn't sell fights, he doesn't sell competition, he doesn't
Speaker 2: sell the UFC. He's selling Holy ship moments. You know,
Speaker 2: like that's what he does. And you're six for six.
Speaker 2: I ain't going anywhere, you know, like that's where And
Speaker 2: that was one of those things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what do you think is next?
Speaker 2: Well, there's only one.
Speaker 3: The call out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I had my whole I had
Speaker 2: my whole speech lined out. You know, I was gonna
Speaker 2: I was gonna win, do my job. I was gonna
Speaker 2: call out Islam or Max with a BMF belt or
Speaker 2: Connor obviously, but obviously I was. I was one hundred
Speaker 2: percent said I wanted to fight Islam next or Arman
Speaker 2: could win that, but I think Hislm wins. But and
Speaker 2: I was gonna be cage sided for it. Still might
Speaker 2: be go out there to some appearances. Everybody loves La.
Speaker 2: We'll go to l a boys. Yeah, you know, so
Speaker 2: looks like it's gonna be Connor next.
Speaker 1: Do you what do you think the reality of Connor
Speaker 1: is guys on the yacht, five hundred million dollars whatever
Speaker 1: he's got breaks the pinky toe.
Speaker 4: In court, in court right now yeah, week for the boy.
Speaker 1: To tough week. Do you think this is is a
Speaker 1: real reality that he comes back to the octagon.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a real reality, but I am
Speaker 2: saying if he does, his road comes straight through Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: You know, like his road back to the UFC. We
Speaker 2: have to finish the Ultimate Fighter. The UFC wants to
Speaker 2: finish the Ultimate Fighter. Connor wants to fight me, like
Speaker 2: there's he can fight anybody, but he made a commitment,
Speaker 2: you know, And I've said this numerous times. I have
Speaker 2: no problem giving my opponents props like I think he is.
Speaker 2: He's more sentimental and romantic about the sport than people
Speaker 2: give him credit for because he has become this big, infamous,
Speaker 2: you know brand, right, But he knows he's nothing without
Speaker 2: that UFC octagon. He knows he's nothing without the UFC.
Speaker 2: He was a plumber on welfare, sleeping on a couch,
Speaker 2: and without the UFC, he's he's nothing, you know. And
Speaker 2: I don't say that to taking anything away from him.
Speaker 2: We all know, you know, we need our we need
Speaker 2: our employers or our brands or whatever to take us
Speaker 2: to the next level and create the life. Right, So
Speaker 2: I think he wants to see through to his commitment.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I mean, he needs to come back. He
Speaker 2: needs something to chase, or else he's going to keep
Speaker 2: chasing the wrong things. And if he does, there's a
Speaker 2: guy waiting. And it just so happens that I think
Speaker 2: I'm one of the top draws in the UFC. Like there,
Speaker 2: people will pay good money to watch me fight no
Speaker 2: matter what. It's OH ship moments NonStop, dude, because I
Speaker 2: I will give them to you like I am guaranteed
Speaker 2: to give them to you. And I and I might
Speaker 2: be the only guy in the UFC who will guarantee
Speaker 2: that you will have an O ship moment. And I
Speaker 2: wear that proudly. And uh, here we are. So Connor's
Speaker 2: gonna come back. If he comes back, he's fighting me
Speaker 2: as you.
Speaker 1: Uh exit the octagon, e saif they're gonna left, stick
Speaker 1: a hard right, because me, Jelly, JP, Taylor, Brie, We're
Speaker 1: all waiting for you. Take a hard right. Go see
Speaker 1: old forty seven?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you say? Them just shot?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I shook his hand and he said, uh, he said
Speaker 2: awesome fight you're a warrior or whatever, and he whispered
Speaker 2: him Yeah, he whispered him my dear. There was a
Speaker 2: really cool shot actually of him whispering in my ear
Speaker 2: and he was just like you were one bad mofo
Speaker 2: type of deal, you know. It was like it was
Speaker 2: pretty freaking cool. And I was like, well you are,
Speaker 2: thank you for saving our country. Uh. And then from
Speaker 2: there it was like the entire Avengers squad was there,
Speaker 2: Like the entire group of people that is going to
Speaker 2: set our country in the right direction is there. Plus,
Speaker 2: my one of my favorite people is Tulci Gabbard.
Speaker 1: See what's up to her? Yeah, that was obviously the
Speaker 1: first time I met her. She is She's got a
Speaker 1: calm confidence about her. She's got to know here about her,
Speaker 1: Like when she speaks, she just sounds like I was
Speaker 1: in O eight when Obama was running for president. I
Speaker 1: didn't know shit about politics, still really don't, but I
Speaker 1: would watch Obama and be like, Yo, this guy just
Speaker 1: sounds amazing. When he speaks. He has no idea what
Speaker 1: he's actually saying. Tolse, he gives me the same vibe.
Speaker 1: It's like she just holds herself very confidently. She had
Speaker 1: a great energy about her when we were sitting there
Speaker 1: and when she speaks. She just sounds like she really
Speaker 1: just speaks very well.
Speaker 2: Tulsa Gabbard is going to be the first female president.
Speaker 2: That's that's what that's my hope. I hope to Toulsa
Speaker 2: Gabbart is the first female president for the United States.
Speaker 1: So the streets you're saying, the whispers, the clamberings, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's which is which is great.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love that she's what is she Director
Speaker 2: of National Intelligence? Which is really funny because they put
Speaker 2: her on like the terror watch list and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just like, what's really cool from the political side
Speaker 2: is to see the political establishment start to freak out
Speaker 2: about how unqualified, dangerous, and scary all these people are
Speaker 2: because they are threatening the bureaucracy that has been there
Speaker 2: going on for the last one hundred years and had
Speaker 2: us taking steps backwards because those people have been in power,
Speaker 2: you know, the left has been in power, what twelve
Speaker 2: of the last sixteen years, you know, And so it's exciting.
Speaker 2: And either way, whether you voted one side or the
Speaker 2: other or you're ups said about one or the other,
Speaker 2: either way, it's a change, like, hey, let's let's just
Speaker 2: give it a shot. Right, It's no different than you're
Speaker 2: seven years into your NFL career. Let me, let me
Speaker 2: just try this thing. It's a little on the fringe.
Speaker 2: It's a little some people hate it, some people love it.
Speaker 2: Let's just try this thing, Like, let's try to have
Speaker 2: a freaking rocket scientist. Let's try to have a guy
Speaker 2: who was independent in the middle. He was on the
Speaker 2: left and has now come over to the right. Like,
Speaker 2: let's just try it. Let's try this thing. It's a
Speaker 2: little bit different than just a bunch of suits who
Speaker 2: have been living the public service life for the last
Speaker 2: forty years and don't have a lot of actual moving
Speaker 2: the country forward to show for it.
Speaker 3: And they got everybody they want in, Like, if it's
Speaker 3: gonna happen, it's gonna be now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then and then if a guy like me,
Speaker 2: who is one hundred percent on board, I look back
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, rocket science is he's an idiot
Speaker 2: in politics, he should he was the wrong guy weed rfk. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's never mind. We had high hopes, right, but it's like,
Speaker 2: let's just try something different. That's what America does, dude.
Speaker 2: America makes innovations and they take big risks. And that
Speaker 2: was what then the country was founded upon.
Speaker 1: You know, you brought up a good point of the
Speaker 1: hope thing. And it's like, regardless of left or right
Speaker 1: or whatever, whoever wins wherever side of the aisle you
Speaker 1: lay on, you you want hope. You're like, hey, if
Speaker 1: it wasn't my choice, let's hope this works out for
Speaker 1: the best, sou At the end of the day, we
Speaker 1: just want our country to do as well as.
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna be raising a beer before July.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Trump said it. He said it
Speaker 2: and maybe his uh acceptance speech or whatever, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: and he said it. It's great. It's like success brings
Speaker 2: people together. And if and if we are successful with
Speaker 2: the boys, did you really right exactly? You know it's
Speaker 2: what you watched. Well, I did watch I Can Forget,
Speaker 2: which is freaking amazing. You know, like success brings people together. Dude,
Speaker 2: it's like, love me or hate me, If I make
Speaker 2: your life better, you gotta give me props for that.
Speaker 2: You're happy about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the fear and a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff, like hopefully everything just calms down the next
Speaker 1: couple of years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's been it's been pretty pretty good
Speaker 2: and cordial don't watch the news and just live your life.
Speaker 1: And well, yeah, we're gonna keep doing what we do,
Speaker 1: just having people on Tuesdays, come hang out with them
Speaker 1: on Thursdays, right.
Speaker 3: Play video games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at one o'clock today right now, So em I
Speaker 1: would have you already got the MRI.
Speaker 2: I No, I'm hounded them. I'm like, I want it today.
Speaker 1: You should have. They should have given it to you,
Speaker 1: like right after the fight. But the next morning.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean that was that was partly me
Speaker 2: because like I wanted to I wanted to just not
Speaker 2: be held hostage in New York.
Speaker 1: And you know, you should have got them, Mikey.
Speaker 2: Maybe be a professional. I know you need to do it.
Speaker 1: The next day. I wanted to game a little auchi.
Speaker 1: They give you a nemorai the next day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but get an amor I don't go
Speaker 3: on a plane. Yeah right, inflammation going.
Speaker 1: Exactly, that's what it.
Speaker 2: Maybe having a little fun with you. Look, baby, it's
Speaker 2: just the inflammation from the plane. Maybe he's fine, That's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We were not making it any excuses.
Speaker 1: Tubic little red light therapy.
Speaker 3: If you had if you knew what the m R
Speaker 3: I would say, what would you guess?
Speaker 2: It would say, I don't know. I don't I really
Speaker 2: don't want to.
Speaker 1: Let's let's play doctor, let's play.
Speaker 2: I really don't want to know. But uh, I don't
Speaker 2: know either way.
Speaker 3: When the MRI I comes up for your knee, put
Speaker 3: the pit bull on it the game?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, well yeah we can, uh we can
Speaker 2: break it down on the next episode of Busting with
Speaker 2: the Boys. But I don't even if there's a road
Speaker 2: to recover, there's a road to recovery. The timeline will
Speaker 2: work out fine, you know, I think. I think me
Speaker 2: and Connor International Fight Week is the next fight. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm throwing out there, Like I think in July.
Speaker 1: When do you think when do those conversations start to happen?
Speaker 1: Give us a timeline on that? When do you know
Speaker 1: if that's a reality?
Speaker 2: Uh well, I mean I got to see what's up
Speaker 2: with the body.
Speaker 1: Right now, which you should have done a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago.
Speaker 2: I know, But uh, I'll talk to Hunter in the
Speaker 2: next couple of days. You know. Well, I'm sure he's
Speaker 2: giving me a little time right now. Options are yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, no matter what it's like. Chandler versus anybody
Speaker 2: is is a thumbs up for the UFC right now.
Speaker 1: So okay, so let's say Connor's done, he rides off
Speaker 1: in the sunset.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 1: What in your perfect world, whore you fighting next?
Speaker 2: Max Holloway for the BMF belt? You know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know what my ranking is now, probably
Speaker 2: still seven ish or whatever. He's number five because he
Speaker 2: beat gai Chie, you know. So like you got two
Speaker 2: guys inside the top ten BMF belt one fifty five
Speaker 2: Chandler versus gay Chee two. That's a big fight, you know,
Speaker 2: that's a another banger, you know that. Yeah, I would
Speaker 2: love to fight at one seventy as.
Speaker 3: Much as it sucks to just get to Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's you step on the way in and everything else.
Speaker 3: I'm like being around you as much as we have
Speaker 3: the last few years. It's you can just see how
Speaker 3: much work and effort it is to get down there.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's calorie restricted every day. Like I did
Speaker 2: not have one day in which my calories exceeded my
Speaker 2: burning calories. Like my resting metabolic GRT was like thirty
Speaker 2: five hundred to thirty eight hundred or something like that,
Speaker 2: and I was ingesting like twelve hundred and fifte hundred calories.
Speaker 3: I mean, you look working out three times in person
Speaker 3: right now compared to Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well I'm a little swollen. I'm a little swollen right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like just my whole body damage, but little swollen. U.
Speaker 2: My whole body is inflamed. He didn't let any damage on.
Speaker 3: He's got a black eye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my head's fine. Look at me, like, yeah, look
Speaker 1: at you. I was like that Pop was like, Yoko,
Speaker 1: what happened?
Speaker 2: Well, I think, yeah, but you forgot what I got
Speaker 2: on the bus after Gaechee, even freaking after poor Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like face was much more.
Speaker 1: Jack do you take on Holloway? You're standing up with him?
Speaker 1: What's the deal? You swing out?
Speaker 2: I don't want He's.
Speaker 1: Literally giving guys, you know, pointers during fights. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: looking away while throwing jabbies.
Speaker 3: You don't want to now because you just came home
Speaker 3: and huged your kids. Yeah, I know when you're in
Speaker 3: that cave.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that guy's a psycho.
Speaker 3: That guy.
Speaker 2: That guy will stand with Max holliway for five rounds
Speaker 2: and be a be willing to die in there, you know,
Speaker 2: which is you know it's great. I know I got
Speaker 2: an Emmy and uh, we'll never lose it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that would be a fun one. I would love to
Speaker 2: fight at one seventy though, but it's gotta be the
Speaker 2: right fight at one seventy.
Speaker 1: You know what you didn't do in your last fight?
Speaker 2: See it? That's out?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't fest Oh dang it.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 1: We talked about it because I had to go forward
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 2: I was fighting backwards the entire.
Speaker 1: Free You say, you don't have an excuse, but.
Speaker 2: We did talk about We talked about it at the
Speaker 2: day of the day before before he bro spinning backfast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: dang it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Come on, I didn't he laughed. He goes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: could do that. I'm thinking myself, do it, seriously? Do it?
Speaker 1: I need Could you imagine a little spin?
Speaker 2: That would have been awesome?
Speaker 1: Get in there at one two? Stomach? Should you got on?
Speaker 1: Should you have got Charles's body a little bit more?
Speaker 1: Get his hands down?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I didn't go to the body at all. I
Speaker 2: mean part of that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you need to have. You gotta
Speaker 1: have you had have JP in your corner.
Speaker 3: JP.
Speaker 1: JP was calling things out. He's like, if he goes
Speaker 1: to the body a little bit more, OLIVERA, his hands
Speaker 1: are way too high right now, and he's like, JP
Speaker 1: is on his ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no he is. I needed you to break down
Speaker 2: the footage.
Speaker 4: We can do that.
Speaker 2: You'll check out Mike's YouTube channel. We'll be on there
Speaker 2: breaking down there, break it down for me.
Speaker 5: This could be a crazy one and maybe it's a
Speaker 5: bad idea, but no bad ideas in brainsworm for next fight. Wise,
Speaker 5: if Vulk loses this, it looks like he's going to
Speaker 5: get a rematch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like maybe a Chandler.
Speaker 2: Vulcan Chandler Vulcant fifty five.
Speaker 4: He would love to He would probably even love to
Speaker 4: go to one seventy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would be fun. I mean, yeah, we
Speaker 2: should just we should just normalize. We should just normalize
Speaker 2: fighting in our our normal weights, Like that would be great.
Speaker 1: You know you you hated that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, but but I'm so damn good at
Speaker 2: it though. That's that's what's crazy. Is like, even the
Speaker 2: hard stuff for me, it's just it just from it
Speaker 2: needs to I wish people could see what I went
Speaker 2: through the last twelve weeks, and it's like, yeah, it sucked,
Speaker 2: But if you just to a plan and you do it,
Speaker 2: and you have discipline and you do not cheat whatsoever,
Speaker 2: it's all doable. Like, I honestly had a very very
Speaker 2: easy weightcut. Did it suck absolutely? Was it painful, yes?
Speaker 2: Was it uncomfortable. Was I ticked off? Yes? But it
Speaker 2: was a it was an easy weightcut. But the weight
Speaker 2: cut doesn't start the fight week. Weightcut started twelve weeks prior.
Speaker 2: I mean the weight cut started when I I mean,
Speaker 2: I had that conversation with you about, Hey, dude, here's
Speaker 2: the options here, what's going on. I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to go to one fifty five. I was
Speaker 2: in the middle of like starting to calorie restrict. I'm
Speaker 2: weighing like one ninety something, one ninety one, and I'm
Speaker 2: like starting a calorie restrict because they wanted me to
Speaker 2: fight October fifth, And I was like, Hunter, I dude,
Speaker 2: you I will make I will make weight. I will
Speaker 2: make weight. If I give you my commitment and I
Speaker 2: signed my name on the down line, I will make weight.
Speaker 2: I just think I'm going to be a shell of
Speaker 2: a human being inside of the octagon, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be frail, and it probably banged up because of this
Speaker 2: hard weightcut for it's too soon. Can we do Madison
Speaker 2: Square Garden? And he said no at first, and then
Speaker 2: obviously know how it played out. I thought a Madison
Speaker 2: Square Garden, but I was in the middle. I started
Speaker 2: way soon because I needed to go from a one
Speaker 2: seventy body type down to one fifty five.
Speaker 3: Just get down to like.
Speaker 1: Two hundred or wait till wait after the holiday season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, let's we're boys about. We're about to have
Speaker 2: a fun couple of week, month and a half, all
Speaker 2: right up, Hey, I gotta.
Speaker 3: Dude, I can't give up the dark chocolate peanut buttercups. Man,
Speaker 3: they crumble me. I know their peanut butter pretzel bites. God, well,
Speaker 3: that you yearned for them, that's where Yeah, that's why
Speaker 3: I yearned for them.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm getting my head wrapped around. Like if
Speaker 2: I got to get you know, any kind of surgery
Speaker 2: or something, I'm like, Okay, I'm going straight carnivore the
Speaker 2: whole time. I'm a freaking gonna be in my.
Speaker 1: Red because we have the most buttered turkey.
Speaker 3: Oh, the most buttery We're doing.
Speaker 1: A competition this year in the one household. Anybody who
Speaker 1: comes over who wants to participate will have to scale
Speaker 1: way right. Yeah, yeah, winner take all.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna win. I can manipulate my weight so well,
Speaker 2: I can maniput my weight so well. I'm gonna show.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He went back.
Speaker 3: You went from three to ten to what are you
Speaker 3: like to forty?
Speaker 2: All right, they'll be disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Fifty five.
Speaker 3: What are you talking? Look great, dude, Thank you. Mike's phenomenal.
Speaker 3: That wasn't it wasn't a shot lost.
Speaker 1: There was there was when I was in the two forties.
Speaker 1: We'll give me the whole hate you doing the hole
Speaker 1: shoulders forward. You're getting a little too skinny.
Speaker 3: He looks a little sick in the face.
Speaker 1: He sat me down a little bit, and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I got it. Put like ten more pounds
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Five. But I think I'm gonna try to I'm gonna wait. Cut,
Speaker 1: it's like tow forty five for Thanksgiving, which is that week.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm gonna have to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it isn't. You stay where you're at, buddy.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm putting.
Speaker 1: Fifteen pounds on the day of Thanksgiving, calling it now,
Speaker 1: you're sleeping on Mitch, Mitch. But mitche here here's Mitch.
Speaker 1: Mitch stays with the carbs. When you cut carbs, you
Speaker 1: lose water weight so fast. So when I if I
Speaker 1: have no carves, I did fuck up in New York
Speaker 1: big time.
Speaker 4: Hell carbs like the cars.
Speaker 1: But if I have no cars from now till Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: I'll have like a free seven eight pounds that literally
Speaker 1: it will be like a piece of bread and I'll
Speaker 1: be done. And then it's all about endurance. Brother, And
Speaker 1: you boys have seen me eat when I eat?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, you're a big boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fucking after it.
Speaker 5: Sent me the roster. I'll make some odds on it.
Speaker 5: We'll get it out there. People can bet on it.
Speaker 1: We got to just do that one day in general,
Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving. I know everybody's got their thing, but we
Speaker 1: should to see if you can eat the most one day.
Speaker 3: Everybody could poster.
Speaker 2: Dude. That would be morning dude contests. Can you get it?
Speaker 2: The busting busting bowls? Yeah, just bowls of freaking whatever
Speaker 2: you decide.
Speaker 1: Spaghetti Tailing makes these like cinnamon rolls, dude, I'm telling
Speaker 1: them she made him a week ago and I was like,
Speaker 1: first off, you fuck yourself. You should never make I've
Speaker 1: told you I'm not doing a car until Thanksgiving up
Speaker 1: to New York. But I told you sure Thanksgiving, I
Speaker 1: was like, make one for everybody and then make a
Speaker 1: whole sepe because I'm eating the whole thing. I'm going
Speaker 1: Those semon roles are insane. Bro're so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those sour ones. Yes, you put we had him
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 3: Row Ah. I mean, you know, I don't think you
Speaker 3: could do on Thanksgiving with Thanksgiving meals and everything else. Dang,
Speaker 3: just letting you know. I don't think you can.
Speaker 1: I love it. No, I love I love this. You're
Speaker 1: probably right, but I'm like twelve of them boys, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited about that challenge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those cos and due.
Speaker 3: On the bus even fans included too. You have a
Speaker 3: way in at what seven eight in the morning, post
Speaker 3: your scale, Yeah, post your scale and then with seven
Speaker 3: pm eight pm, twelve hour window.
Speaker 1: Twelve hour window, hashtag busting bloated boys, We'll come up
Speaker 1: with the hashtag hashtag Yeah you gotta water. Twenty bust
Speaker 1: and busty boys yet to do a water cut busting
Speaker 1: turkey games. Yeeah, I'm a Wednesday next week. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: When's it next week?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It's like me when I went in one fifty six
Speaker 2: fifty five point six, and then twelve hours later I
Speaker 2: was on seventy five, so like twenty pounds. What's basically
Speaker 2: just explaining that that was more just dehydration. Yeah, dehydration, well,
Speaker 2: water fast means you're really only drinking water, right, This
Speaker 2: is more like not drinking much water. I think I
Speaker 2: think that the last twenty four hours, I only drink
Speaker 2: like thirty two ounces of water sixty four hours.
Speaker 1: And we should do that next Wednesday. How long does
Speaker 1: it take?
Speaker 2: I mean you just basically do a twenty four hour
Speaker 2: one where you're not you're just dehydrating yourself for twenty
Speaker 2: four hours.
Speaker 1: Can I have nicotine?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, you can have coffee. I mean coffee dehydrate you, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that'd be easy for me.
Speaker 2: You smack that.
Speaker 3: I'll be pissing gold sometimes. Brother, should I got drink?
Speaker 1: You got that brown?
Speaker 2: That's suit water.
Speaker 4: Let's get to the water.
Speaker 2: Drinks the water.
Speaker 3: I love how you think I just sit on the
Speaker 3: couch and I'm at home.
Speaker 1: Well sometimes no, I text, I text it Will last
Speaker 1: night and he's like doing dishes, just going after this.
Speaker 1: How about everything? Steel is out there, he's getting Will
Speaker 1: is running scoreboard up right now at home.
Speaker 2: He's crushed.
Speaker 1: He's doing what. Yeah, when you were doing a water cut?
Speaker 1: Was that you right there? That severe dehydration?
Speaker 2: No, my uh, I've been in.
Speaker 1: That little brown. I've been in that third one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in the brown. Yeah, I've been the dehydrated.
Speaker 2: I've not been. I mean, I don't understand why this
Speaker 2: severely dehydrated is red. That looks like blood.
Speaker 1: Right had blood one time thirteen It was kind of painful.
Speaker 1: That's why I was wondering if it was painful for you.
Speaker 2: Might think, well, I think my whole body was in pain,
Speaker 2: so I just wouldn't have really noticed. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's definitely a different density, you know, because blood.
Speaker 1: Compared to just urine expanding your whole.
Speaker 2: Whatever that thing is.
Speaker 1: How was it? How was Brie after the fight?
Speaker 2: She was good man like she she was. It was
Speaker 2: tough before the fight because she hadn't done it.
Speaker 3: Twelve weeks is over yeaheah, yeah, I mean that's scoreboard.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing her Halloween. I was like, how you doing.
Speaker 2: That's right, we're in it, yeah, because she yeah, she
Speaker 2: she had a tough time with this one because she
Speaker 2: hadn't done it in two years. I mean we've been
Speaker 2: together for ten twelve years, married for ten, but she's
Speaker 2: been she's been used to you know, she's been used
Speaker 2: to me fighting every six months or so. She didn't
Speaker 2: she wasn't used to it for two years, you know,
Speaker 2: so it was a little bit kids, yeah, and without
Speaker 2: a Yeah. So she's she's handling all that, and then
Speaker 2: she's also handling the emotions. Like even when we were
Speaker 2: in New York, like she on fight day, she was
Speaker 2: just sitting in her hotel room by herself for like
Speaker 2: five six hours. I was like, you're good. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just hanging out. Just want to be by myself,
Speaker 2: you know, because you're also not yourself. Like that's how
Speaker 2: I am around fight week and stuff. It's like, hey, dude,
Speaker 2: let's go do this, Let's go do have dinner. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, now, because I'm going to be there, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to be myself and I'm going to be
Speaker 2: second guessing how am I handling this interaction. I'm not myself.
Speaker 2: I don't really want to be here. We're having a conversation,
Speaker 2: but I don't really care about this conversation. And I'm
Speaker 2: completely okay with giving myself permission to not care about
Speaker 2: this conversation because I have to go fight in a
Speaker 2: cage in twenty four hours type of thing. And she's
Speaker 2: the same thing. It's like we had twenty five friends there,
Speaker 2: probably right, but she's like, I'm not the normal breed
Speaker 2: that you guys are used to because my husband's about
Speaker 2: to go fight in a cage and my body's doing
Speaker 2: weird things and I don't have an appetite and not
Speaker 2: sleeping well, and you know, so she was happy after
Speaker 2: because once again, I've never lost a fight. Like every
Speaker 2: time we're going up right, like it's win loser draw.
Speaker 2: It's like whatever, it sucks if you lose, but it's
Speaker 2: also like, hey, the future looks bright. So you're just
Speaker 2: happy it's over, you know, just happy, and you're happy
Speaker 2: it's over and it and it worked out decent. Whatever,
Speaker 2: it's fine, you know, and I'm home now. You're excited
Speaker 2: that I get to come home and just be dad
Speaker 2: and husband for a little while. Yeah, and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: so she was good after Well.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, brother, We're happy for you regardless. Man, you
Speaker 1: put on an absolute show.
Speaker 2: Oh ship moments, dude, Oh shit, moments, win, lose, draw,
Speaker 2: all right. We don't go gently, Yeah, we do not.
Speaker 3: Go quietly into the I got holidays.
Speaker 1: They get plumped, get excited. Jan one. We'll focus on
Speaker 1: the body of one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're moving to the new house in a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. So it's December fifth, before Christmas house. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so celebrating. So yeah, we've got to move to all
Speaker 2: that stuff. That'll be fun. Yeah, right down the road.
Speaker 4: Maybe that won't be with the recovery, all the injuries,
Speaker 4: having to move.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you almost got to hope for a surgery, right,
Speaker 3: I am not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I do not want to be that
Speaker 2: guy because I'm like, God, yeah, babe, grab that box.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's is that heavy?
Speaker 1: Well, put your back into it the perfect time. That
Speaker 1: get her one of those little weight belts that the
Speaker 1: movers have. Let her start get her dolls.
Speaker 2: She's got to be a back surgery. And then we're
Speaker 2: both we're both on the freak injured reserve.
Speaker 1: That would be the worst. You're coming off of recovery.
Speaker 1: She's going into recovery. It's like, now I gotta do
Speaker 1: what I saw her do.
Speaker 4: It'll be doing the j hole workouts yet get right.
Speaker 2: Tell you what.
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on, bro, course we appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Always back on the bus. We love love you guys,
Speaker 2: appreciate you.
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