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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh

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Speaker 2: that was nasty right there? Rights slam the ground by

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Speaker 2: Al right, So I'm fresh off hosting an event that

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Speaker 2: that was truly not qualified a host that actually goes

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Speaker 2: beyond this podcast. Cardinals on Ground Pacific Office Automation, Paul Calvic, Darrenerman,

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Speaker 2: Danny Sirek. Because I can tell just by the look

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Speaker 2: in your eyes, you better make that plural, not singular. Calvis,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to not being qualified. It was the

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Speaker 2: Marquee Math competition presented by SRP Cardinals team partner, and

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Speaker 2: was much of these high school overachievers.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know my that was you in high school.

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Speaker 4: There's a reason Leland High School. Why well, as I

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Speaker 2: They used off the top my little stick, I said,

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Speaker 2: I played four years for the Chargers, the Leland High

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Speaker 2: School Chargers, So there you go. But as my buddy said,

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Speaker 2: who all got scholarships and I didn't. If you can't

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Speaker 2: play at Calvis, commentate it. So you know, here I

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Speaker 2: am for the last three decades or so, which brings

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Speaker 2: me to a certain aspect of this competition, which was

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Speaker 2: the trivia portion at the very end for big prizes. Okay,

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Speaker 2: bag big prizes, math trivia, And there was one question, no,

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Speaker 2: it was Cardinals trivia. And there was one trivia question

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Speaker 2: It was the last who was the last Cardinals player

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Speaker 2: drafted number four?

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Speaker 3: Was that I don't even want to guess because I

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Speaker 4: I'm like a fortunate Unfortunately, I'm literally writing a story

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Speaker 4: up like an hour ago. No, what was fit thir?

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Speaker 2: I noticed I didn't say Arizona Cardinal.

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Speaker 4: I will recuse myself. So that's unless Danny really can't

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Speaker 4: get it, which she's not going to get.

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Speaker 2: Nobody got it. I didn't get it. Nobody got it.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was you know.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have gotten it if I hadn't looked it up.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you do have two chances, because it depends

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Speaker 2: his professional name. If you will changed, what have you

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Speaker 4: Do you know.

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Speaker 3: Why are you guys going to call me out on

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Speaker 3: a Cardinals team employee podcast about Cardinals trivia about four

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Speaker 4: know a Mad Rashad? No, because he's much more famous

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Speaker 2: Oh no, and the year of the draft was nineteen

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Speaker 4: A Mad Rashad was a good receive. Bobby Moore was

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Speaker 4: well known as an NBC sports commentator. Slash Michael Jordan's

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Speaker 4: best friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, slash sidekick. You would always do the Michael

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Speaker 4: He's also married to Felicia Rashad, the wife on The

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, good one.

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Speaker 4: Totality was pretty cool. It was really cool to watch

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Speaker 4: Going over to the srex.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, mister Dad, regret that man? Hi Dad, that's good. Well,

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Speaker 2: there you go, And once again I'm kicking myself. I

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Speaker 4: I can't help it if Brian and I have a

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Speaker 2: Apparently that's okay. My entire family has better relationship with

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Speaker 4: Dog, You dog got a shot out in the mail bag.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, did you guys stick with Cheeter?

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Speaker 3: Did you change it up again?

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Speaker 2: Stuck with Cheeto? He's still answers better to Marty, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's klepto' it's a klepto dog.

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Speaker 2: I went around here like Michael Jackson with a glove on.

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Speaker 4: Probably noticed, like the leather gloves his German verse. Maybe

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Speaker 2: So there you go. I nailed Darren. Sorry for profiling you,

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Speaker 4: That Was there something wrong with that?

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Speaker 4: See it as wrong.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to talk. I'm going to talk to mister

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Speaker 4: Surrek and I'm going to get you uninvited. I'm going

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Speaker 2: Something tells me Darren though, and here's my segue in

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Speaker 2: three two one. If you had gloves to protect you

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Speaker 2: from all the mock drafts, you would wear them.

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Speaker 3: No, Darren loves the mock drafts.

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Speaker 2: He's a There are germophobes and there are mock draft

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Speaker 4: Is thing I don't. I don't hate mock drafts because,

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Speaker 4: as we've talked about before, I do the mock draft.

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Speaker 4: They're just a very personal thing, except when I want

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Speaker 2: What about when someone puts out a single mock draft,

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Speaker 4: Is that like doing one bracket for March Madness exactly.

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Speaker 2: I just respect that a lot more than Oh so,

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Speaker 2: the office pool. No. So, Peter Schreger spent a good

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Speaker 4: Oh and to be honest, he said, one point. Oh,

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Speaker 4: so that implies there's going to be a two point.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I don't. I think they make you specify

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Speaker 2: at this point, just so that's fair anyway, Cardinals trade

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Speaker 2: They lose out on Marvin Harrison Junior, but they do

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Speaker 2: get Romadonsay, Danny, your thoughts on Thatt in this mock draft?

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Speaker 3: Well, because the Giants take JJ McCarthy and the Chargers

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine this this time of year.

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Speaker 2: It's more once again a profiling, maybe a Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 4: I dropped. So you get all these draft picks going forward.

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Speaker 2: So, Danny, what would you say if the Vikings offer

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Speaker 2: Vegas eleven, twelve, thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeh, By the way, we don't know that, which, by.

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Speaker 2: The asking price right here, right now, break out.

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Speaker 3: To clarify, that would be twenty three, would be one

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Speaker 3: you're not saying eleven and twenty three counts as two

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Speaker 2: No, that counts as two of the three.

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Speaker 3: You're not giving me three new picks. One of those

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Speaker 2: That's and that's what the ninersing.

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Speaker 3: To me to say, we're getting three first round picks

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, for two, it would be true. And

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem saying three because you're giving

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Speaker 4: So what are you getting for that three first round

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Speaker 4: picks for that one first round pick? Now, if you

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Speaker 4: that's fine. But this idea that you're not getting, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that first round pick for Justin Jefferson. You're getting three

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Speaker 2: You know what, when you bring that up with the

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Speaker 2: get Trey Lance, the Niners always squawk back and say no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: two first round picks and a pick swap twelve for three.

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Speaker 2: So it's semantics.

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Speaker 4: It's how you view it, and I guess ultimately it's

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Speaker 2: See to me, eleven and twenty three is not enough

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Speaker 2: my ideal scenario, as we said right here, right now,

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Speaker 2: just have three first round picks period two this year

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Speaker 2: and one next year, and MANI will do the deal.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you know what that reminds me here, hang on, here,

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Speaker 2: I gotta put these sign up. If we're talking about

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Speaker 3: Just like the idea of you taking the time to

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Speaker 2: Up more than that. I stopped by two hardware stores

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Speaker 2: Now failing man again.

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Speaker 4: We've talked about this a million times. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: MANI Austin said he's open for business because he's always

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Speaker 4: going to listen. He should always listen.

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Speaker 2: We'll edit that out later.

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Speaker 4: By the way, ahead, isn't it? Isn't it mal feastings?

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Speaker 4: If he's not listening, I would agree, yes it is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it sounds like a cop out to answer your

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Speaker 3: question of which I now feels like three or four

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Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: Would I rather have the trade with Minnesota or just

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Speaker 3: it's almost hard because we don't know what the board

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Speaker 3: looks like. You could get a starter at eleven, now,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that that would be a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: I think that would be someone on defense, pass rusher

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Speaker 3: I do if you want one of these top receivers. Though,

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Speaker 3: I think trading down from four to six is still

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Speaker 3: a great option. And we've seen the draft picks that

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Speaker 3: Mani asin Fort has had in his first year and

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Speaker 3: what this team has gotten out of them, and so

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Speaker 3: I can understand why that's not as great when you

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Speaker 3: I don't even know that I can answer of which

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Speaker 3: if you are looking at how deep this draft class

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Speaker 3: as I would love to have one of those top

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Speaker 3: if I had to pick between those two, I think

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Speaker 3: I'd have to pick them one with Minnesota because you

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Speaker 3: first round later on with twenty three or twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: To have those in bundle some extra, you know, a

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Speaker 4: It's it's funny to me because there's there's a lot

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Speaker 4: Right now, the Cardinals have six draft picks for twenty

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Speaker 4: their one through six. Is Monty going to want to

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Speaker 4: that that may or make.

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Speaker 2: Sure's draft stinks, that's what they say.

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Speaker 4: At least, Well okay, but I just I think, yeah, well,

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Speaker 4: I guess I'm not really doing that.

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Speaker 2: I can barely process this draft much less next year.

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Speaker 4: I guess. I guess ultimately, you know, again, I think

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Speaker 4: it's all gonna come down to what's there, what options

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Speaker 4: might be there. And we've talked a million times about this.

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Speaker 4: We don't know exactly what they think of the receivers exactly,

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Speaker 4: we've talked about this so much that you can talk

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Speaker 4: I'm really kind of surprised with how like, like, if

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Speaker 4: if they take somebody at four, and I'm not saying who,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I love the idea of taking someone at four

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Speaker 3: and honestly, training down to six with New York is

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Speaker 3: still almost, you know, best of both worlds if you're

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Speaker 2: So they have the draft party Thursday night, Great Lawn

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Speaker 2: doors open at four. I'm going to show up about

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, why even be there for number four?

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Speaker 2: Cardinals aren't aren't picking at number four. I'll just show

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Speaker 2: after they they trade down.

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Speaker 3: When are you gonna sign all your autographs?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: He does that on the way out, and it was

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Speaker 2: He waits for them.

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Speaker 4: To drive.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants any autograss. Some guy weighs as much as

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Speaker 2: Greg Dortch, please the police. Okay, here's what Here's what. Uh,

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Speaker 2: here's what I take away. Also from the Peter Peter

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Speaker 2: a name I've never heard of before, and he happens

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Speaker 2: so that was new to me, but I had him

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Speaker 4: I have mocked him to the Cardinals in like the

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's my point. If you're gonna get a pass

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Speaker 2: you better get that guy in the first round. Middle

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Speaker 2: or maybe Jim Harbaugh. My trade out at number five

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Speaker 2: But if you go through some of the names of

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Speaker 2: and second round, here we go speed read A. D Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton, Bama's leading receiver, Jordan Winnington, who was behind

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Speaker 2: He wasn't able to work out. They say he could

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Speaker 4: And let me just say that, all my stupid time

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's how you're justifying spending an ordant amount

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Speaker 3: It's you just got to kind of take whichever side

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Speaker 3: you want because it's almost like a win win, Paul,

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Speaker 3: because saying all those names and in pretty much any

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Speaker 3: is great because that means you can address other areas first.

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Speaker 3: And then if you take one of those players later

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Speaker 3: you've got a starting caliber wide receiver. Doesn't that also

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Speaker 3: tell you how great those top three are projected to be?

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Speaker 3: And otherwise those players would have been first round are

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Speaker 3: now being pushed back to Day two. Isn't that an

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Speaker 2: I point, yes.

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Speaker 4: I do want to bring up, however, that this is

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Speaker 4: this league or if they're going to be I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Chad Williams, you sound like what CJ. Stroud said to

441
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Speaker 2: start this week.

442
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Speaker 1: C J.

443
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Speaker 2: Stroud, the Texans quarterback, met the media then offseason workout

444
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Speaker 2: media availability. Someone asked him about his former teammate, Marvin

445
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Speaker 2: Harrison Junior, and he scoffed c J. Stroud and said,

446
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Speaker 2: whoever is up there, picking be smart, don't be dumb,

447
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Speaker 2: don't think too hard, meaning don't overthink it. Take Marvin

448
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Speaker 2: Harrison Junior if you have a chance. Now. Are they

449
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Speaker 2: former teammates, Absolutely, But I used to work with a

450
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Speaker 2: guy who knew more about college basketball than anybody I've

451
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Speaker 2: ever met, and he would finish in the bottom three

452
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Speaker 2: of the office bracket every year. Paralysis through over analysis.

453
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Speaker 2: He overthought spracket every year. Yes, So is that the

454
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Speaker 2: point you're trying to make? Don't overthink it? I CJ. Stroud,

455
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Speaker 2: take Marvin Harrison Junior.

456
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Speaker 3: First of all.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we're saying, uh, take Marvin Harrison.

458
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Speaker 2: C J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud said, just like Jim Harbaugh saying take JJ McCarthy's

460
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Speaker 4: the best quarterback since I don't know, God, I don't know.

461
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Speaker 4: It's it's it's one of those things where it's like,

462
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Speaker 4: I guess I kind of feel like I need I

463
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Speaker 4: need somebody that isn't c J. Stroud or Paris Johnson

464
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Speaker 4: tell me how to begin with.

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Speaker 2: I mean Buddha Baker. You know he's endorsing Roma Doones. Eh. Yeah,

466
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Speaker 2: you're not taking that either. Okay.

467
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Speaker 4: I mean again, I'm not saying it's not it's not possible,

468
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Speaker 4: but I need somebody who's got a little less bias here.

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Speaker 2: I see. All right, So here's a Daniel Jeremiah tweet quote.

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Speaker 2: This draft will determine the next five to seven years

471
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Speaker 2: for the Arizona Cardinals. They have an opportunity to set

472
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Speaker 2: them themselves up for a really nice run. Is that

473
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Speaker 2: over dramatization? Right? There is he trying to drive some

474
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Speaker 2: ratings to his NFL draft telecast.

475
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Speaker 4: How would that do that?

476
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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to build up the intrigue.

477
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't drama that tweet is going to draw

478
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Speaker 4: a bunch more eyeballs. I do think, I do think

479
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Speaker 4: there's a certain truth to it. I mean, I think

480
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Speaker 4: last year's draft and this year's draft are crucial to

481
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Speaker 4: what this team is going to be because you have

482
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Speaker 4: your quarterback in place, and you know, in the NFL

483
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Speaker 4: the clock is running, and I don't know what the

484
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Speaker 4: Cardinal is going to do this year. You know, I

485
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Speaker 4: think the hope obviously is that they push for a

486
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Speaker 4: postseason birth, but we don't know. We don't know who

487
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Speaker 4: they're going to end up with. I mean, this class

488
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Speaker 4: could be awesome, but it's also going to make them

489
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Speaker 4: a pretty young team. So you know, I think I

490
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Speaker 4: think you need, yes, very a very good draft. But

491
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Speaker 4: I also it's weird when he's five to seven years

492
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Speaker 4: to me because I'm like, who lasts five to seven years?

493
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Speaker 4: You're gonna you're gonna you'll get like three players on

494
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Speaker 4: your team even if you're you have a good draft

495
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Speaker 4: that are gonna stay around because you won't be able

496
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Speaker 4: to pay. Let's say you hit on every pick, which

497
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Speaker 4: nobody does, You're not nobody's gonna stick around that because

498
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Speaker 4: some of them you're gonna have to let go because

499
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Speaker 4: you're not gonna be able to afford them all.

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Speaker 2: You brought up twenty twenty five draft and six picks.

501
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Speaker 2: I had no idea. I'm not looking that far ahead. No,

502
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Speaker 2: nobody's focused a next year.

503
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Speaker 4: At this point.

504
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Speaker 2: Much is much less five seven years. It's that old meme.

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody got time for that twenty twenty five. We're

506
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Speaker 2: in the moment. In fact, I'm going back to my

507
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Speaker 2: marketing mantra from last year, Danny a twenty twenty three

508
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Speaker 2: dip for a twenty twenty four rip, And that's with

509
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Speaker 2: eleven picks in this draft. And actually, I hope it's

510
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Speaker 2: more the old Wall Street term pigs get fed, hogs

511
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Speaker 2: get slaughtered. I'm boss hog right now, give me more picks.

512
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Speaker 2: I mean, I want three first rounders. I want three

513
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Speaker 2: starters right out of a round one.

514
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Speaker 3: Last year, the foundation was set. Now you have to

515
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Speaker 3: build upon that foundation. Eleven picks, that is a lot

516
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Speaker 3: of capital. The Cardinals need to hit, not on all them,

517
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Speaker 3: that's not realistic when you've got right now at least

518
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Speaker 3: two first round picks. The Cardinals need to find some starters,

519
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Speaker 3: and that's what they've been banking on. We saw that

520
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Speaker 3: from the moves and free agency. Yes, they found some starters.

521
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Speaker 3: Really more so on the defense. You need to start

522
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Speaker 3: finding the starters elsewhere and continue to grow from within.

523
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Speaker 3: That's how Mani Assoft likes to build his roster is

524
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Speaker 3: those younger players and develop them. So you have to

525
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Speaker 3: continue to draft well to have those players developed for

526
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Speaker 3: your future. I'm not expecting the Cardinals to have a

527
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Speaker 3: twelve win season, per se, but we saw how competitive

528
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Speaker 3: way they were. The culture has been set, the standards,

529
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Speaker 3: the expectations that need to be met with this coaching staff.

530
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Speaker 3: Now you need to go out and you need to

531
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Speaker 3: get some more wins in that column. So absolutely, this

532
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Speaker 3: draft is important. This is going to set the foundation.

533
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Speaker 3: I think any team in the transition phase that the

534
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Speaker 3: Cardinals are in right now of a new general manager

535
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Speaker 3: or a new head coach. You've got your quarterbacks at

536
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Speaker 3: This is where the pivotal years of building upon that

537
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Speaker 3: foundation are so you're not constantly feeling like you are

538
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: swimming upstream. That's what we heard from Awesome for It

539
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: and from Gannon at a press joint press conference a

540
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Speaker 3: couple weeks ago. Is everything happened so fast this time

541
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Speaker 3: last year, and then you're having to not only set

542
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Speaker 3: your roster and get through the draft, but figure out

543
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Speaker 3: who else was already here and whether or not you

544
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Speaker 3: want to keep them. Now they're at the point of

545
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Speaker 3: they're kind of feeling a little bit more ahead of

546
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Speaker 3: the game, and they've got the foundation for what they

547
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Speaker 3: want to do. Now you need to actually start doing

548
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Speaker 3: that and seeing results.

549
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Speaker 2: See to me, that's why I'd be very intrigued if

550
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Speaker 2: if the Vikings made Justin Jefferson available, because to your point,

551
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Speaker 2: there's so much youth already, there's eleven more picks. Well

552
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Speaker 2: they end up with eleven rookies, we don't know. But

553
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Speaker 2: with all the youth on this team, if you have

554
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Speaker 2: a receiver who's plug and play, who's already an all

555
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: Pro caliber receiver, yeah you got to pay them, There's

556
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Speaker 2: no doubt about that. But you seemingly do have the

557
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Speaker 2: cap room at least based on some of the websites,

558
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Speaker 2: to eliminate the learning curve for one key position and

559
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson came in and you plugged him in right away,

560
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: and he's still twenty four to twenty five. As Darren

561
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: reminded us last week, Larry Fitzgerald, his rookie season was solid.

562
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 2: He's pretty good, but it took two three years from

563
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: to really bust out and become a future Hall of Famer.

564
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Speaker 3: You have the reasons why it could make sense from

565
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Speaker 3: an Arizona standpoint, Why would Minnesota want to trade Justin Jefferson.

566
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Speaker 2: Well, apparently now it depends.

567
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Speaker 3: It depends on give me the longer.

568
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Speaker 2: It depends what you believe and what you read. But

569
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of speculation that there's been a lot

570
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Speaker 2: of negotiations back and forth that have gone nowhere. And

571
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Speaker 2: there's a speculation that the whole there's been a thirty

572
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: million dollar plus per year offer that was turned down,

573
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Speaker 2: that the Vikings leaked that to Adam Schefter because they're frustrated.

574
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Speaker 2: And so when you combine that with the fact this

575
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: is a loaded draft at receiver, combined with the fact

576
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Speaker 2: they found Justin Jefferson at twenty two overall, combined with

577
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Speaker 2: the fact that they need a franchise quarterback badly, that

578
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: maybe just maybe they'd be willing to part with him

579
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Speaker 2: as part of a package. De maniasin fort that's the thinking.

580
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Speaker 4: Well, I want to move off this subject, but I

581
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Speaker 4: will say I will say this that I don't I

582
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Speaker 4: don't think that's a small part of any trade. Is

583
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Speaker 4: if you were taking a player and he has to

584
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Speaker 4: get a new contract. I mean, I don't know. I

585
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 4: don't you know that? And if if those are the

586
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: numbers you were talking about, what why would you want

587
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: to get involved in something like that? That's my opinion

588
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 4: for the same reasons you just said. If you can

589
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 4: find a receiver in this draft, why would you want

590
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Speaker 4: to mess around with it?

591
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Speaker 2: Right, So here's my segue out of Minnesota, because that's

592
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: where the Cardinals found themselves last year for the joint

593
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: practice Danny true or false, It was very warm and

594
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: humid in Minnesota a year ago.

595
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Speaker 4: One of those days beyond true when Danny passed out.

596
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: It was just a horrible situation.

597
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: So when the head coach says there's a joint practice

598
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: coming this year, it's going to be quote out east,

599
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: and it's going to be hot. So just the way

600
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Speaker 2: it can be any hotter than Minnesota was last.

601
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Speaker 3: So what do we learn Not not the chargers. That's

602
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Speaker 3: pretty much what that.

603
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Tells us basically, to be West, not the AFC.

604
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Speaker 4: West said it was easy, Yes, said it was hot.

605
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 4: That's right, you said it was east.

606
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: The Cardinals would have to travel west to California.

607
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Speaker 4: So I guess that eliminates the charger because again I

608
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 4: remember doing the chargers when they were in San Diego

609
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Speaker 4: and there was a practice in training camp that.

610
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Speaker 2: Was super hot. So okay, So here's what I'm thinking.

611
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Speaker 2: You guys tell me if I'm right or wrong. Now

612
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: you know my own personal hope it's not the triangle

613
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: of humidity, Jacksonville, Miami or Houston. That's just my own

614
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: personal However, I do put Houston near the top of

615
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: the power pole of possibilities because JG and Dimico Ryans

616
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: have a good relationship and Monty and Nick Casserio have

617
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: a really good relationship. Going back to New England, there's

618
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Speaker 2: a reason the two those two swung a deal last

619
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Speaker 2: year in round one. So I have Houston near the top.

620
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Speaker 2: Houston in the summertime, though Paul, New England and Tennessee

621
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: also have connections with Manty Austin Fort Obviously, those are possibilities. Uh,

622
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: no connection that I know of to Buffalo, the Jets,

623
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Speaker 2: the AFC North, or Kansas City anything substantial. However, Gannon

624
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: is good friends with Shane Steichen and the Colts Indianapolis,

625
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: and as someone who covered the Indy five hundred, it

626
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: could be hot and humid as soon as late May.

627
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Speaker 3: I've only been in February for the combine.

628
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Speaker 4: I think it's funny that Paul's talking about how it

629
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Speaker 4: could be hot in August anywhere especially, I mean, are

630
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: you not aware of climate change?

631
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Speaker 2: And is this where you bust into your urologists.

632
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Speaker 4: Anywhere it's pretty much going to be I don't think

633
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: that was really a tell, although it is funny. I'm

634
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: pretty sure JG's like, I don't want everybody guessing where

635
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: we're going.

636
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Speaker 3: Oh, I guess it's not the Cowboys because they go

637
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: to Oxnard. That would all to be California.

638
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Speaker 4: Well, and he said AFC, SAYFC.

639
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: But see when he says hot like that stands out

640
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: to him. It makes me think Jacksonville, Miami, Houston. That's

641
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: the problem. To your point, Darren, most of America is

642
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: hot in August. I get it, But when he uses

643
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Speaker 2: that as a descriptive term about this.

644
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Speaker 3: Here's what does it matter who the Cardinals playing the

645
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: regular season? I mean, does that come into play at

646
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: all with Miami?

647
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Speaker 4: Is that someone probably not going to have a preseason

648
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Speaker 4: game against knock out Miami. And this would be the

649
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: idea I'm assuming is is that wherever they practice, they're

650
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Speaker 4: going to play a preseason game there obviously, and.

651
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Speaker 2: They played preseason games in Tennessee before.

652
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Speaker 4: They just been some weird like I remember going to

653
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Speaker 4: Green Bay for a preseason game, and I remember thinking

654
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Speaker 4: to myself, why are we going all the way to

655
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Speaker 4: green Bay for preseason.

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Speaker 2: They have a tendency to send the Cardinals to the

657
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: Central time Zone a lot, no matter where it is.

658
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: It feels like we used to like, as long as

659
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: we weren't playing the AFC West that year, we would

660
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: just stick with AFC West and that was a lot more.

661
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: Those are easier trips.

662
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: So at some point we'll get the answer to the

663
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: whole joint practice thing.

664
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: Nowhere else it's hot in August here.

665
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. There's a reason the Cardinals are

666
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: going on the.

667
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: Road and not hosting a joint practice.

668
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: That's right, because it's it's nowhere hotter in North America

669
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: than Phoenix, Arizona in August. So okay, now, look, you

670
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: guys are out there and you well, I don't know,

671
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: you didn't. Did you actually witness any of these the

672
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: off season training out there or is it just the

673
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: press conferences? Danny take us through what exactly was made

674
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: available for the media this week.

675
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: No, the strength and conditioning workouts are not available to

676
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: the media because that's that's phase one of the voluntary

677
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: portion of this off season program right now. So the plot, So.

678
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: Darren wasn't out there with his weightlifting gloves, you know, fingerless. No,

679
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, go.

680
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: Ahead, see now he's a hater.

681
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: That was a cheap shot. Go ahead.

682
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: To my knowledge, No, Darren was not out there with

683
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: his weightlifting gloves. So the players who are here voluntarily

684
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: are working out with the strength and conditioning coaches. They

685
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: can be in the weight room, out on the field,

686
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: they can meet with coaches, but they cannot meet with

687
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: the coaches out in the field, so it would just

688
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: be in meeting rooms. And while we don't have the set,

689
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: you know, the exact attendance list, we do know from

690
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: our own social media at AZY Cardinals and arrival photos

691
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: and whatnot. That Kyler Murray has been in attendance voluntarily,

692
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: which is huge. I mean really he's been. He's been

693
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: at the facility all off season, not just now. I

694
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: just it's it's nice to see. Okay, this is his

695
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: first full off season with this staff, and I mean

696
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: over the years he's taken a lot of flak because

697
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: he hasn't been here for all the voluntary portions of

698
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: working out on his own off campus. So to see

699
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 3: your franchise quarterback lead by example and be here when

700
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: he doesn't have to be is is nice. That's what

701
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: you want to see from a franchise quarterback.

702
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: I feel like the parking lot was pretty full that day.

703
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: It's been full most every day so far.

704
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: So in some of this video you see Yelda fro Holt.

705
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: Now there's Trey McBride and and then some of the

706
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: tight ends. But yeld Of fro Holt can uh, I'm

707
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna throw out a content idea here you

708
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: guys ready for this? Just sparked a light bulb right

709
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: there on the Big Red Rage. He talks about his

710
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: weight room. Then he has at home in his garage, right.

711
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: That's his hobby to lift weights, and he likes to,

712
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: in his words, display feats of strength to the other

713
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: dads on his block. Now that he is a father,

714
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: he likes to go out there and do feats of

715
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: strength out near the curb and in the front yard.

716
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: That would be.

717
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: That would be I would probably if I were.

718
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: That's an Emmy Award winning story ideas. That's right. So Darren,

719
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: we're gonna send you over to do that feature story

720
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: and you can spot yelda with your weightlifting gloves. You

721
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: can stand over him on the bench and you can

722
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: you can spot them. That would be good, as long

723
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: as you.

724
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: Drive me over with your driving gloves.

725
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm not involved in this.

726
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: Not yet, Okay, not yet, all right. So we also

727
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: saw Trey McBride in there.

728
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: Of course, with a big smile on his Yes.

729
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: I did not know, I you know he was. We

730
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: had a chance to interview him about his trip to Poland.

731
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: I said, how do you say, Trey mcplay in Polish?

732
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: He didn't have an answer to that, but what he

733
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: did say was that because it was a military trip

734
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: and they visited different military bases, him and his new

735
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: teammate DJ Dallas, that the Army guys challenged the two

736
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: of them to an Army Combine fitness test that involved

737
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of feats of strength and then a two

738
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: mile run, and Trey said, yeah, I competed pretty well

739
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: until the two mile run. I'm used to more like

740
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: twenty yard bursts instead of two miles, he said, So

741
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: that was a bit problematic for me to compete with

742
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: the military guys.

743
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: I wasn't aware that he was able to do something

744
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: like that. I mean again, I think it was great

745
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 4: that they went over there. It's been interesting the news

746
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: about the Poland trip came out recently, and then of

747
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: course last weekend there was the Pat Tillman Run. Pat's Run.

748
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: How many for you now, Pat Tillman runs.

749
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: Well, that was the twentieth. Wow I've missed.

750
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: Darren got a shout out from Gannon the press conference

751
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 3: that Darren was there running fast.

752
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

753
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: He didn't see that. But I missed the first one.

754
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: I just I wasn't involved in the first one, and

755
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 4: then I missed one other one. I was out of

756
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: town at a concert with my brother. But I've been

757
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: parts of all the other ones, including the two that

758
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 4: were virtual. Because of the pandemic, but this was the

759
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 4: twentieth and it's just it was cool to be out

760
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 4: there and to you know, be a part of that.

761
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: And it's just when you see the Cardinals take part

762
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: in Pat's run, when you see DJ Dallas and Trey

763
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: McBride go on this USO tour, which Larry Fitzgerald did

764
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 4: once upon a time back in the day, I mean,

765
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: that's just I think that's that's cool part of being

766
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: part of the community.

767
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 3: What I think is a cool nugget about the USO

768
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: tours Also is McBride, who talked with the media Monday,

769
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: said that DJ was always going to be the person

770
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: he went with even before he signed with the Cardinals.

771
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: Really yes, and that Trey said he was happy that

772
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: DJ came over to the right side from Seattle, so

773
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: they were always going to go together, but then they

774
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: got to go out there and bond his teammates. And

775
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty cool little nugget.

776
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: That's right. DJ Dallas and LJ. Coller, they come and

777
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: came over to the right side, you know, from the

778
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: Seahawks back. I look forward to next offseason when I

779
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: firmly believe we'll be using the words last place Seahawks

780
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: once again, I really did. I enjoyed a couple of

781
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 2: years ago when I know you do Paul that terminology.

782
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 2: So okay. Anything else from the Jonathan Gannon press conference

783
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: other than a Darren shout out for the Pat Tillman run,

784
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: What else I can get them? What else was newsworthy noteworthy?

785
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon? You know, anybody try and you know, hit

786
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: him up with some of the changes he's making to

787
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: his scheme, supposedly allegedly offense and or defense.

788
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: We're not going to get a whole bunch of specific

789
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: and we.

790
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: Didn't even get specifics on the changes from year one

791
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: to year two in this off season program. I do

792
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: like the fact that Gannon said he talked to the

793
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: players because he said, if you have a question and

794
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: you want to know something, you asked the player. So

795
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: he definitely took insight from the players from last year

796
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: into what they kind of wanted to see a little

797
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: more this year. Something that's not a surprise that we

798
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: learned was that Gannon has been having his hand in

799
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: the dirt when it comes to testing out these kickoff

800
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: rule changes. We hadn't had a chance to talk to

801
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 3: him because Darren was at the owner's meetings, but Gannon

802
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: spoke before the change was announced. You know this one

803
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: year for the kickoff changes, And so when I asked

804
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: Gannon his thoughts on them, he started saying how he

805
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 3: was out on the field with special teams coordinator Jeff

806
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: Rodgers and some coaches and trying to go through the motions,

807
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 3: which makes sense to know what you can do, and

808
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: what makes sense to ask if your players as you're

809
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: scheming things up. It's just it's such a funny thought

810
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: and it makes so much sense. I feel like when

811
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: you interact with Gannon, of oh, that really doesn't surprise

812
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: me that he's out there and he's trying to break tackles,

813
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: which he said, Helo, he doesn't want to tackle anymore.

814
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: He still can, he just doesn't want to.

815
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: And he was out there giving making Terry and Arnold

816
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: do press coverage on him during the combine.

817
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: Right, that's right. Yeah. And then Nick Rosis supposedly stood

818
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: in a couple against a couple offensive linemen and then

819
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: paid the price. Apparently the next morning woke up. It

820
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: wasn't it wasn't quite a you know, so he's pretty sore,

821
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: but it was interesting he played the cut for Wolf

822
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: Ron Wolfly ten years in the NFL, four time special team,

823
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: pro bowler and a guy who would cover kickoffs for

824
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: a living like no other. And so when Gannon was

825
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: telling the story of He's at R five and he

826
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 2: said he made most of the tackles on kick cover,

827
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: although Jeff Rodgers disputed of that based on the film.

828
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: You know, Wolf was getting out of his seat like oh,

829
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: and then they look in his eyes and he's reliving

830
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: his days covering kickoffs and the whole deal. So I'm

831
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: guessing Wolf and j g els or reminisce about that.

832
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: But that's what Kerry Rhodes, former Cardinal former teammer Jonathan

833
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: Gannon said about the Cardinals head coach from the Louisville days.

834
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: You won't find many people as competitive as Jonathan Gannon.

835
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: So when he tells that sort of story, I'm not surprised.

836
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: You can tell. Yes, he kind of oozes him.

837
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, speaking of Kaysi're white. There's my set he

838
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: met the media.

839
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: Sorry whips Yeah, sorry.

840
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: Kaizer White. Come on now, I want to hear what

841
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: did Kaizer have to say about what mac Wilson had

842
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: to say about the two of them being dogs there

843
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: in the middle.

844
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: It was funny because I felt like, I feel like,

845
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Mac talks a little bit more

846
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: than Kaizer. Kaizer is a man a few words, but

847
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: I feel like they're kind of like the same type

848
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: of player, and it feels like they would mesh really

849
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 4: well together. But yeah, I'm Mac Wilson talking a few

850
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 4: weeks ago about how he looked forward to playing with Kaizer,

851
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: and it did look like Kaizer had a smile on

852
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: his face being able to play with mac Wilson. But

853
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: I also get the feeling like Kaizer White is going

854
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 4: to be excited about whoever's playing next to him as

855
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: long as he gets to be playing, which obviously he

856
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: didn't get to do enough last year when he got,

857
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: you know, towards bicep. What was that week twelve?

858
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: And he's on track, he said, he's not one hundred percent,

859
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: but he's here. He's going through the condition program, so

860
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: that's a good sign. He said he didn't even go

861
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: on vacation this offseason. He just spent time rehabbing. What

862
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: was wild to me to think about was I think

863
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: it was your question, Darren of asking Kaizer mentally, because

864
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: we haven't had a chance to talk to him what

865
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: that process was like, because he had played every snap

866
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: leading up to that injury and Kaizier and after that

867
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: was gonna be My point was Kaizer was tackling with

868
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: one arm and said he thought it was a cramp.

869
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: He tore his bicep and he thought it was a cramp.

870
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: I mean, what.

871
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: Tough as nails.

872
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: I'm just guessing though, I'm just guessing that, you know,

873
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: since it wasn't a leg injury and knee injury anything,

874
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: you know, with a join or whatever. I mean, you know,

875
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: he should be good to go by mandatory mini camp

876
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: at the latest, I would think, right, I mean a

877
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: bicep so.

878
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: I didn't even stay at a holiday and express last night, Paul,

879
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 4: So I'm not forgetting to give any kind of medical information.

880
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, edit that out too. Here's the better point. Here's

881
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: the better is that I think the difference between Kaizer

882
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 2: White and mac Wilson this year versus Kaizer White and

883
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: fill in the blank last year is mac Wilson is

884
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: gonna be a three down linebacker. You don't have to

885
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: take him off the field at any point. Some of

886
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: the other running mates Kaizer White had last year, certain

887
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: passing situations were a liability. Not mac Wilson. Dude can run,

888
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: he can cover. He's one of the best coverage linebackers

889
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: in the NFL. I could really see those guys. I

890
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: mean you talked about Kaizer White had played literally that

891
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: was he Paris Johnson until he got hurt. He had

892
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: played every snap.

893
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 4: Six hundred eighty three snaps and and that's total and

894
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: the last like four or five. If you go watch

895
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: the tape, mm hm, he shouldn't have been out there. Wow, wow,

896
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 4: because he literally was trying to do things with one arm.

897
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: Interesting well, and he you know again.

898
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: He's trying to play through it. I'm not I'm not

899
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: dissing him, but it was like, man, that's crazy.

900
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: I still remember him on the sideline pleading his case,

901
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: wanting to go back in like no, no.

902
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: I remember the game. After the game, I mean, he

903
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: got hurt before halftime, I'm pretty sure. And after the

904
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 4: game he was one of the last people. He was

905
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 4: still in full uniform when we got in there to interview. Wow,

906
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: most guys had already mostly changed and he was still

907
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 4: in full uniform. You never see that from a guy

908
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: who gets hurt and is out for the game.

909
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's just abject disappointment and

910
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: denial at that point, right that you're done for the season,

911
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: because it's one of the other. Either you get the

912
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: surgery right away, and you do have to get surgery

913
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: within a week or two. There's a short amount of

914
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: time for a bicep reattachment or I remember this from

915
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: Lorenzo Alexander and Adrian Wilson, or you live with a

916
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: deformed bicep the rest of your life, so you know,

917
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: the whole beachbod thing, the rest of the light in

918
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: your life is is a negative because one arm looks

919
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: all mangled like it got bit by a shark.

920
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: This is why Paul never would play with something like that,

921
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: because he wouldn't be able to handle not having the

922
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 4: beach body.

923
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 3: Today.

924
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: Not to be confused with him, Dad Bod. So all right,

925
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: what else, since you guys were there and I have

926
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: to catch up on the press conferences, Danny, was there

927
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: anything else I missed? Trey McBride met the media, Kaiser White,

928
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: the head coach, anything else stand out? Was there any

929
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: more trash talking about draft picks from the Alma mater?

930
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: I see there's another tight end coming out of Colorado State.

931
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know if Trey McBride's taking credit for.

932
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: That, No, but it was nice to hear from McBride,

933
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: just hearing about the growth he had, and you can

934
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: tell that it seems like McBride just needed a chance

935
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: that playing second tight end behind Zach Ertz in the

936
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: previous year, not getting a lot of reps. I mean,

937
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: McBride said himself, he's going back and watching his film

938
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 3: from his rookie year and he looks like a deer

939
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: in headlights. The fact that he wasn't even a starter

940
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: his sophomore entire sophomore season last year because he was

941
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: playing behind Ertz, and to then finish the year with

942
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: the numbers that he did, and to see that connection

943
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: with his quarterbacks sky rocket the way it did when

944
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: Kyler made his return. The sky is the limit for McBride,

945
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: and especially with Kyler Murray as his quarterback now. McBride

946
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: said there are still a lot of plays he left

947
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: out there that he thinks about. Really that Atlanta game,

948
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: Kyler's first game back, where a pass was intercepted because

949
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 3: Trey continued to run and Kyler wanted him to sit,

950
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: so they're still working on that. But seeing the connection

951
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: they had and to now have a full offseason together

952
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: and they're both healthy. I mean, it's almost like, what

953
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: what's the limit?

954
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: If there is one that is a great video melt

955
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: we just saw of his highlight reel from last season,

956
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: you just realized he's not going down on first contact.

957
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: He's made good hands.

958
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: Great hands catching the ball away from his body, soft hands,

959
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: catches in traffic, making guys miss at different times. Just

960
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: the competitive juice, the fire. What was the saying we

961
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: ended at the end of last year, based on how

962
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: much riving he got from his teammates. It was come

963
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: for the first down catches, stay for the awkward celebrations.

964
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: That's what the guys would say about him, because they, like,

965
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, his celebrations were just, according to his teammates

966
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: in the room, were awkward. Jeff Swam and those guys. So, yeah,

967
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: Elijah Higgins, you know, So it's all right, Trey owned it.

968
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: You know, he's he had a good there's a.

969
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 4: Learning curve for everything, Paul, that's right.

970
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 2: So, but I do agree. As soon as zach Ertz,

971
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 2: he was no longer in the shadow of zach Ertz,

972
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: he was a different.

973
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: Player and you can tell that confidence. And he talked

974
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: about that of walking into the off season program this year,

975
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: of having a better sense of who he is as

976
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: a player and what he's capable of and what he

977
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: still wants to do. Said he still wants to become

978
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: a more complete tight end, really focusing on his run

979
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: blocking abilities, and that he grew up with a coach

980
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: that told him, if you can make an impact in

981
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: the blocking game, you'll be rewarded in the passing game,

982
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: and that's something that he wants to continue to really

983
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: work on and hone this offseason.

984
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 2: Now, I did have to apologize on behalf Ron Wolfley

985
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: to Trey McBride. We're seen here because in an interview

986
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: in April, wolf asked and what his weight was, and

987
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: I said so, and then he went into the whole

988
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: run blocking thing and all that. So Tray can pretty

989
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: much repeat what Wolf tells him verbatim, word for word

990
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: because he's heard it so often. So we'll see if

991
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: Trey embodies more of that. But as McBride responded to

992
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: wolf he said, we're going to make you the run

993
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: game blocking quality control coach. So just to.

994
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 4: Appease him because but see Wolf might want to do

995
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 4: that well, and that'd be a win win.

996
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: Okay, that'd be a win win. So you know, then

997
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 2: Wolf bom get him down on the field with the coaches.

998
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 3: So I'd like to continue to see McBride obviously be

999
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: a complete tight end, but continue to just be one

1000
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: of those targeted receivers. Even if the Cardinals do draft

1001
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: a receiver and find a blocking tight end. I don't

1002
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: know if that's in the draft or if that's a

1003
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: late signing around training camp. But when you look at

1004
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 3: the rest of that tight ends room, I don't think

1005
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: anything is solidified. Jeff's Wayne was your blocking tight end.

1006
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 3: He got hurt late last year, is still a free agent.

1007
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: Elijah Higgins looked fine in the eleven games he played,

1008
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty three receiving cards in a touchdown.

1009
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 3: Is he a true number two, either as a pass

1010
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 3: catcher or a blocker?

1011
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: Not yet?

1012
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 3: And then behind Higgins is Travis Vocolek and Blake Whiteheart,

1013
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: each actor for just two games, no stats. I think

1014
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: tight end is a sneaky offensive need. Again, I'm not

1015
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: saying that's climbing above other positions, other offensive positions in

1016
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: the draft. That's something you can address later. I just

1017
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 3: think that even if you draft a receiver, Trey McBride

1018
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: is going to have such a pivotal role in this offense.

1019
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: And while it is important for him to block, and

1020
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: he understands that, and I agree, I want him to

1021
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: continue to get open. And considering how often this offense

1022
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: likes to be in multiple tight end sets, you're gonna

1023
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 3: need some extra bodies back there.

1024
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: You have three third round picks. There's a tight end

1025
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: who falls in round three, at least based on the

1026
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: Cardinals board. Absolutely, I think you're right. I think that's

1027
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: a sleeper position they could go after in round three

1028
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: that I haven't really considered at all tight end in

1029
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 2: this draft.

1030
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 3: I'm not saying a tight end to come in and

1031
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: replace McBride as you're starting tight end, but you need

1032
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: some depth in that room. For how offensive corner Drew

1033
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: Pencing likes to run his offense, they use two.

1034
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 4: Tight ends so often. What you want to do is

1035
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 4: make sure the you're in a position where there's an

1036
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: injury or whatever, you're ready now. I do think the

1037
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: Cardinals have some optimism for what they have, and I

1038
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 4: also think that. I don't know if the draft is

1039
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: where they find somebody, if they want somebody. I think

1040
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: to me it feels more likely that they would find

1041
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: an undrafted tight end or out of some kind of veteran.

1042
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: But probably I don't know if they're spending I mean,

1043
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 4: there's so many places where you want to spend picks

1044
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: on of other positions that they need. Like would you

1045
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: be surprised if they drafted two cornerbacks? Would you be

1046
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 4: surprised if they drafted two defensive linemen. Would you be

1047
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: surprised if they drafted two interior offensive lineman receives or

1048
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: two wide receivers. I mean, like, you have eleven picks,

1049
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 4: but it's only eleven pack, Like you don't get twenty

1050
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 4: players out of it.

1051
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: That's true, That's true. I mean, and heck, who knows

1052
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: if there's really like a standout, they take some of

1053
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: those Day two and Day three picks and try and

1054
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: move up. If there's someone who in their mind has

1055
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: fallen on that board, I could e And that's the luxury.

1056
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: I have an eleven picks, because are really going to

1057
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: bring eleven rookies in in one draft class plus any

1058
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 2: undrafted guys? Yeah, theoretically you could, but especially this team

1059
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: where it's at right now in the rebuild mode. But

1060
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: you know, don't tell them I use that word, by

1061
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: the way, But if you're using some of those picks

1062
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: to go after guys, you think you contribute right away,

1063
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: you know, have a special value on your board. Yeah,

1064
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: that's the great thing about having all those picks. And

1065
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: once again, I want to get more picks. So you

1066
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: know we're gonna leave. We're gonna leave the light on

1067
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: for him here. Okay, the rest of the NFL in

1068
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: case any of the gms are trying to get some

1069
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: intel on the Cardinals, We'll just leave the light on

1070
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: for him right there. How about that? All right? Anything

1071
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: else needs to be said, any airing to the grievances here, anything,

1072
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: and I miss Danny.

1073
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: I want to make sure Danny has my bet all

1074
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: made up in this direct housewold, I don't.

1075
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: Want I don't have any apologies to lend you this

1076
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 3: with Paul.

1077
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: Hey, Darren owed me an apologies. You know what Darren

1078
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: owed me an apologize. I can't remember exactly what it

1079
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: was for I do remember declaring at the end of

1080
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: the last podcast he owed me an apology so I'll

1081
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: have to go back and check the film, because the

1082
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: eye in the sky never lies. I go check the film,

1083
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: and then you know what, we'll carry that over to

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