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Speaker 1: just start by talking about the game that Anger had

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Speaker 1: all were fair caught and all were into the ten,

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Speaker 1: his progress on special teams throughout the Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: just think special teams. I'm biased, but I think playing

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Speaker 1: I like it the in house competition and might be

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Speaker 1: probably just push ups or something they got on the line.

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Speaker 1: been down in late can you kind of why would

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Speaker 1: as simple as it was. Thank you, Okay, thank you guys,