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Speaker 1: episode description. Okay, so we're here. This is season four,
Speaker 1: Episode five. The five would a classic. I'm Susie Esman,
Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Garland and our special guest today.
Speaker 2: Brighten, whatever you're doing just made a lot of noise.
Speaker 1: Our special guest today is making noise. Is Brian Gordon,
Speaker 1: who directed this episode.
Speaker 3: Does anybody still use a pen?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, we all use pete.
Speaker 2: By the way, whenever I write, I write long hand
Speaker 2: and then I have my assistant. I'm an assistant. Yes,
Speaker 2: hype it up for me. That's how I do it.
Speaker 1: Good and Brian, this is season four. So this is
Speaker 1: the fourth episode you directed, because you directed one per season.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: The first one was Affirmative Action, the second was The Acupuncturist,
Speaker 1: and season three was the Classic Special Section, which for
Speaker 1: which you won a DGA Award. Hey, Brian, and nominated
Speaker 1: for an Emmy. If I'm correct, Yes.
Speaker 3: Brian am.
Speaker 2: I was talking about in that episode how sad I
Speaker 2: was that two things. One is that we lost the
Speaker 2: scene of Larry and I sitting and talking outside the
Speaker 2: graveyard with Richard and Shelley coming up and Richard wanted
Speaker 2: to test out the drive. I was so sad to
Speaker 2: lose that. That's one of my favorite scenes ever in
Speaker 2: the history of the show. It was a tough one.
Speaker 3: Do you have a series of episodes that you could
Speaker 3: put together of scenes that didn't make the cut.
Speaker 2: If Megan Murphy was still working for the show, he
Speaker 2: could have done that.
Speaker 1: But he was our post coordinator, post production coordinating.
Speaker 2: And so she knows, she knows where the dead bodies
Speaker 2: are if he was, And that's I was also sad
Speaker 2: because we lost great stuff that because of time we
Speaker 2: had to make the grave digging a montage that killed.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that killed me because we spent all
Speaker 3: night digging that damn grave. I know that, Yes, I know,
Speaker 3: And so we're up till like three in the morning
Speaker 3: digging easy.
Speaker 2: By the way, I actually remember five, sir, five five
Speaker 2: in the morning. It was an all nighter in a graveyard.
Speaker 3: Oh you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I wasn't there, even though it was
Speaker 1: till five in the morning. In the graveyard.
Speaker 2: My graveyard shoots are really fun. I'm being totally serious.
Speaker 2: They're really fun because they're just so absurd that you're
Speaker 2: in a graveyard shooting at night.
Speaker 1: Well, especially that episode you're in a graveyard digging up
Speaker 1: his mother's grave because she had a tattoo on a rass.
Speaker 2: I mean she was put in the special section, this
Speaker 2: special section.
Speaker 3: I did a number of graveyard episodes.
Speaker 2: Are you did the other ones too?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: We were always it seems we're always at that cemetery.
Speaker 2: I believe it was an Alta Dina, Yeah, that same cemetery.
Speaker 3: But this one, I think we switched off. We did
Speaker 3: the memorial in another the Hollywood behind.
Speaker 2: The part where he's talking to the guy exactly.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of funerals in this show. A lot
Speaker 1: of funerals and a lot of golf. This episode has
Speaker 1: one of my favorite scenes that I've ever done of
Speaker 1: all time. But we're going to start at the beginning.
Speaker 1: This is a classic, it really.
Speaker 2: It is considered one of the classic Curb episodes.
Speaker 3: Yeah by far, grateful, Yeah, grateful.
Speaker 1: You know you've directed several class I mean the Black
Speaker 1: Swan you directed. Also, didn't you write.
Speaker 3: Another another memorial that's Paul Mazerski died in that episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul Mazerski with the sign and yeah that was
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's the famous with mister Takahashi
Speaker 2: and it was the first big one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that scene where he just says, you
Speaker 1: have big mouthed wife. Okay, So we start the episode, Brian,
Speaker 1: what are you doing noise every time?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm just I'm moving furniture. I mean,
Speaker 3: what's the problem.
Speaker 2: You have no idea?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, right, So you know we were discussing the
Speaker 1: last week or the week before, Jeff about how sometimes
Speaker 1: the sound gets all fucked up and we have to
Speaker 1: redo it because of the sound Exhibit A. Brian Gordon's
Speaker 1: fucking up the sound.
Speaker 2: But thank god, we're not going to have to redo this.
Speaker 1: No, we're not. So we start out with we see
Speaker 1: Larry David and David Shwimmer now is playing the part
Speaker 1: of Leo, and we see them rehearsing in their black
Speaker 1: hats and they're dancing and Patrick the what was his
Speaker 1: name as the choreographer was Steven. I believe Patrick is
Speaker 1: the actor's name. Steven is the choreactor. He said to Larry, Larry,
Speaker 1: you've been doing your homework.
Speaker 4: I am all astonish man.
Speaker 1: It is fantastic, fierce, absolutely.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it was really fairs, really fierce.
Speaker 1: You are fierce doing your homework. You are so fierce.
Speaker 1: And David Swimmers like, what about me and the pod deray?
Speaker 1: I have no idea what a pod deray is? Whatsoever?
Speaker 3: Jeff would know, right, Jeff with if.
Speaker 2: Anyone would know, if anyone would know, it's Susie because
Speaker 2: she's a big Broadway person and her sister is a producer.
Speaker 1: I was with a very famous ballet dancer yesterday and
Speaker 1: I should have asked him, but I will ask him tomorrow.
Speaker 3: When the pod deray is Yes, Well, the fierce thing
Speaker 3: was was really the beginning of and then you know,
Speaker 3: we shot this in two thousand and five? Was it?
Speaker 3: And Larry taking on a persona of being gay, right,
Speaker 3: which was okay? You know, and then you put it
Speaker 3: to twenty twelve and you question whether how would he
Speaker 3: do it today?
Speaker 1: I think he would do it the same.
Speaker 3: I think you're right.
Speaker 2: But the truth is the reason it works is obviously
Speaker 2: it's funny, but he's embracing the culture. Yes, he's embracing
Speaker 2: the culture. It's not him commenting or being mean spirited.
Speaker 2: But you know what's lost nowadays with people who are
Speaker 2: easily offended, who don't have sense of humor nuance, so
Speaker 2: they just see black and white and say you can't
Speaker 2: do that. It's difficult. Comedy's a little bit more difficult now.
Speaker 1: Well. I don't think Larry really cares or listens to
Speaker 1: the political correctness. Thus the beauty of this show.
Speaker 2: And by the way, that part of the popularity of
Speaker 2: the show is all types of people love it for
Speaker 2: its lack of political correctness.
Speaker 1: So he goes through this whole thing with Schwimmer about
Speaker 1: the pod day and Larry system, if you want to
Speaker 1: do extra work, and Swimmer says he can't because he's
Speaker 1: meeting his father, and we find out that his father
Speaker 1: is the creator and maker of health Glow Nuts, and
Speaker 1: Larry right away I have ideas about mixed nuts, so
Speaker 1: I why not put a pecan with a blueberry or
Speaker 1: a dried cherry with a filbert, which later on that
Speaker 1: goes to last season's episode about the mini bar, and
Speaker 1: you know, all this stuff.
Speaker 3: He loves, loves bags of nuts, he.
Speaker 1: Loves bags of nuts and trail mix, and he wants
Speaker 1: to pitch to David Swimmer's dad, and David says, yes,
Speaker 1: stay in your own elements. So already we see Larry's
Speaker 1: creating problems with Schwimmer as he did with Ben Stiller. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Larry and Steven the choreographer go to get a
Speaker 1: snack and we see Larry what we were discussing doing
Speaker 1: all Stevens extremely gay mannerisms, fierce and the way he's
Speaker 1: using his hands, and it's hilarious.
Speaker 4: You and David are so good together.
Speaker 2: Love him, oh god, love that ch mystery together. It's fierce,
Speaker 2: absolutely fierce, totally fierce, so much better than Ben.
Speaker 4: Don't you think that was so bosso?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had that kind of entitled attitude.
Speaker 2: I don't care for it at all, totally.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Hilarious, It is fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2: One thing that Larry does is great. He says to
Speaker 2: the whats then the piano player, too bad, you can't see.
Speaker 2: He says to Michael, too bad you can't see. And
Speaker 2: that is so wildly inappropriate but hilarious, and it's a
Speaker 2: real relationship. See, that's why that one works because it's
Speaker 2: a real relationship, and Michael has taken advantage of Larry
Speaker 2: in earlier relationships.
Speaker 1: Totally taking advantage of it exactly. I mean almost on
Speaker 1: an abusive level. Michael's almost abusive to Leally, I know, yes.
Speaker 1: And then Steven the choreographer brings up his friend Anthony,
Speaker 1: who's a doctor who's gorgeous and who just broke up
Speaker 1: with his boyfriend. So Larry then sees a bag of
Speaker 1: the health glow nuts.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, you're passing your passing?
Speaker 1: What what did I passed on?
Speaker 6: Pirate's booty, pirates booty, Pirate's.
Speaker 4: Booty, embarrassing his topet. No, I can't have Pirate's booty. No,
Speaker 4: but you can have a pair.
Speaker 2: First off, my favorite all time snack and just him
Speaker 2: singing a song holding up Pirate's booty. I'm sure I
Speaker 2: went up to him after we shot that and went
Speaker 2: that stays in. I'm sure because I do that to him.
Speaker 2: I always say to him, and I think I've said
Speaker 2: on the show before, I will wrestle you if you
Speaker 2: don't keep that in the show because it's such a
Speaker 2: thing of beauty and that I love the little moments
Speaker 2: that have nothing to do with story. They're completely absurd,
Speaker 2: but that's my sense of humor. But still, god, damn,
Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, keep going.
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice the Pirate's booty.
Speaker 2: Well that you're not looking.
Speaker 3: You're not looking, and I know that that that that
Speaker 3: Larry loved Pirate's booty, and his kids love Pirate's booty.
Speaker 1: By the way, mine too, booty is and we later
Speaker 1: on somewhere else's Pirate's booty. Oh, I know what it was.
Speaker 1: It was the scene in season eleven where Kelly Cuoco,
Speaker 1: however you say her name drops the Pirate's booty, right right, right, right.
Speaker 2: Right right right, by the way, Pirate's booty best snack
Speaker 2: for comedy, just say.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's interesting how sharp the humor is
Speaker 3: on this show. And everything means something, and I think
Speaker 3: the audience got to learn even story when you sort
Speaker 3: of you don't say any If you say something, it
Speaker 3: has something to do with something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would not. The Pirate's booty did. By the way,
Speaker 2: the show works, And now you pay attention to the
Speaker 2: first five to seven minutes, everything's laid out for you. Now,
Speaker 2: Larry David is brilliant, so he knows how to push
Speaker 2: the dominoes to where they end up. And you go, oh,
Speaker 2: but everything you need to know is in the first
Speaker 2: five to seven minutes. If you want to use kerb
Speaker 2: as a mystery.
Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, very true.
Speaker 1: So Larry sees the health Glow Nuts in the store
Speaker 1: and he notices there's only four cashews. The cashew raise
Speaker 1: and balance is a skew. And this is a typical
Speaker 1: Larry thing to notice and to be upset about. And
Speaker 1: next he's in his office, walks in singing, and Antwinette
Speaker 1: is like, hey, Broadway, and Larry starts talking about it.
Speaker 2: On hold, on, hold on a couple things. Number one,
Speaker 2: what's his name? The choreographer agrees with him, So Larry,
Speaker 2: Larry is not proved.
Speaker 1: Wrong about the clow nuts. You may yes.
Speaker 2: And then I wrote story though, oh, I have filmed
Speaker 2: so many times. In that story, I filmed the movie
Speaker 2: called I Want Someone to Eat Cheese With in that store.
Speaker 2: I forgot what else I shot got one other thing,
Speaker 2: but three things. It's on Callfax and the church across
Speaker 2: the street is where you have lunch. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: that's the way It works because the church lets cruise
Speaker 2: park there and such. That's how a church makes extra money.
Speaker 2: And that little gross re marked was in my movie.
Speaker 2: Was in the show and something else I shot there.
Speaker 2: I can't remember right now, all right, Brian, I do
Speaker 2: fun facts that are fun for me.
Speaker 3: Here's another fun fact for me is that David Swimmer
Speaker 3: I directed him on The Wonder Years fourteen years before
Speaker 3: that where he was It.
Speaker 2: Was the boy's friend, wasn't he? He was the boy.
Speaker 3: Olivia Olivia Diabo's boyfriend on The Wonder Years at the
Speaker 3: Sportsman's Club. How about that one? Yes and.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I'll give you a fun fact about
Speaker 1: David Swimmer. I actually played his mother in a pilot.
Speaker 1: I'm not that much older than him, but I played
Speaker 1: his mother.
Speaker 2: I did that once too. I was in movie with
Speaker 2: what the hell's her name? Oh, Christen Christy fuck anyhow,
Speaker 2: I played her father the movie before. She played Steve
Speaker 2: Carell's girlfriend in the movie and Steve Carell and I
Speaker 2: are at the same exact age.
Speaker 1: Well, that's like Anne Bankrupt, you know, in the graduate
Speaker 1: of Justin Hoffmann. What was she like three years older
Speaker 1: than him? Yes, the magic of filmmaking will be right back.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, and we're back. So Larry also mentions to
Speaker 1: Antoinette that David Swimmer is fierce. So he's using that word,
Speaker 1: he's owning that word. And Antona got Larry a gift
Speaker 1: of a picture frame. And in the picture frame, when
Speaker 1: you buy a picture frame.
Speaker 2: Frequently, Karen Knightley, Karen Knightley.
Speaker 1: Karen Knightley, thank you, brain dam But frequently when you
Speaker 1: buy a picture frame, there is a fake picture in
Speaker 1: the picture frame. So he's planning on putting a new picture,
Speaker 1: but he hadn't yet, so there's a picture of a
Speaker 1: very handsome young man in the picture frame.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to just give a little aside here. Yes,
Speaker 2: when I was younger, and this is gonna be a
Speaker 2: weird one, I used to collect picture frames and keep
Speaker 2: the wrong picture in there, keep the picture that came
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: The original picture.
Speaker 2: And I remember an aunt who I They had one
Speaker 2: of those cubes, Remember the picture cubes. There's a picture
Speaker 2: on everything. Yeah, and you know she was older and
Speaker 2: I must have been like ten or eleven, and all
Speaker 2: the pictures that were in there, I discussed with her
Speaker 2: as if they were family's members. Here's the twins. Here's this,
Speaker 2: here's that. My parents laughed, but they were very angry
Speaker 2: at me.
Speaker 1: It's borderline means Jeff well, no.
Speaker 2: No, no, it is mean. Yeah, but as a ten year old,
Speaker 2: it's jew Nile as opposed to if I did it
Speaker 2: now would be terrible. E.
Speaker 1: So then the dental hygienis.
Speaker 3: You ignore me.
Speaker 2: You ignore me quite often, but I've never gotten the.
Speaker 1: Delilah calls the dental HYGIENI is from the episode before,
Speaker 1: and she says, let's get together, and she says, you
Speaker 1: gave me the tongue sign in the episode prior, so.
Speaker 2: You were right by the way last when we discussed
Speaker 2: that episode. I thought she can't do that, but yes
Speaker 2: she did.
Speaker 1: And he's like, why do you want to go out
Speaker 1: with me? And she's like, she says, he reminds him
Speaker 1: of her history teacher or whoever she says, and he says,
Speaker 1: in a buncular was your history teacher? Or in avuncular
Speaker 1: bold jew? And then Patrick comes in the office because
Speaker 1: Larry left his Stephen, Stephen the choreographer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, excuse me, just before that, I mean the backstory
Speaker 3: of it is that he went to a dentist.
Speaker 5: We just discussed that in the episode we talked we
Speaker 5: did that episode.
Speaker 2: But I also think that when the choreographer comes in,
Speaker 2: I mean, who brings a script across town? I got
Speaker 2: the feeling that he was developing a crush on Larry.
Speaker 2: Do we do that later, because it certainly felt like that.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's really what it's well, we'll see towards
Speaker 1: the end of this what happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know with the picture, and then
Speaker 2: he sees, yeah, the picture serves see all right, here's
Speaker 2: but we'll hold on though, hold on though the purpose
Speaker 2: he Sometimes people have to come into places where it
Speaker 2: might not make sense, like under normal circumstances, if someone
Speaker 2: brought a script like that, you might think they have
Speaker 2: a crush on them. But I realize now it's because
Speaker 2: he looks at the picture.
Speaker 1: Correct and thinks that Larry has a boy. Steve Stephen
Speaker 1: comes in to give Larry the script that he left
Speaker 1: at the rehearsal hall, and and we don't know that
Speaker 1: it's Crosstown necessarily, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: It's next door. It's in the office base.
Speaker 1: And the door yea. And he sees the framed picture
Speaker 1: sitting on Larry's desk, with the handsome young man in
Speaker 1: the photograph, and we see Stephen looking at it and
Speaker 1: noting it, noting that, oh, he's got a picture of
Speaker 1: a man on his desk. Hmmm, do do do doo? Okay,
Speaker 1: So next we're in the locker room at the golf
Speaker 1: club and he tells you that you're all set up.
Speaker 1: He's all set up with Delilah the dental hygienist for
Speaker 1: next Thursday.
Speaker 4: Did I do this? Is it wrong?
Speaker 2: You're never getting another opportunity like this for the rest
Speaker 2: of your life. You have to do this. It's a
Speaker 2: gift from your wife. She wants you to do it.
Speaker 4: It's my tenth anniversary pressent.
Speaker 2: It's your tenth anniversary present. You have to do it.
Speaker 4: Oh, I hope I can do it. She's fierce.
Speaker 2: Okay, at first I thought it was my imagination. But
Speaker 2: you're talking really gay? No, no, no, really fierce. Where
Speaker 2: does fears come from? And everything is this?
Speaker 3: And that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Steve's choreographer says it all the.
Speaker 1: Time, Steve, You've spent a lot of time with him.
Speaker 4: I probably picked up some of his manners some all.
Speaker 2: You're him, you're him, You're Steve the gay choreographer. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's nothing really about that in the script. That's the
Speaker 2: stuff that I do that makes Larry laugh is when
Speaker 2: I question him about anything that he's doing that is
Speaker 2: out of the ordinary, or for that matter, sometimes at
Speaker 2: the moment he doesn't think is out of the ordinary,
Speaker 2: and then I pull him into reality. And this was
Speaker 2: one of the ones where I killed him because I
Speaker 2: asked him very specific questions and had very specific opinions
Speaker 2: about it. And that's one of my favorite type of
Speaker 2: scenes to do with Larry.
Speaker 1: And then Jeff goes into a whole thing. They discuss
Speaker 1: Stephen the choreographer, who's fierce, and.
Speaker 3: That was really a terrific scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great scene. And Jeff points out
Speaker 1: Larry's locker's open, and his locker is filthy, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: He's just got crap in there and it's a mess.
Speaker 1: And then Norm comes in Paul Mazerski and notices. We
Speaker 1: see Norm notice the locker and something comes up about
Speaker 1: Marty and Norm says, well, tells them that Leo Funkhouser,
Speaker 1: Marty's father died. Hodgkins at Lars I thought he had
Speaker 1: the good Hodgkins, like in Party of five, that's brilliant.
Speaker 2: Well, actually he should have said non Hodgkins, if that's corrected. No,
Speaker 2: but he's said Hodgkins. And then Larry says, I thought
Speaker 2: he had the good Hodgkins right, But maybe Paul the
Speaker 2: way I took it where you can throw it is
Speaker 2: that Paul was just in general saying Hodgkins right.
Speaker 3: Can I just say something on the Paul? Okay, I will,
Speaker 3: but I just want to say I'm sure all of
Speaker 3: you have felt this on KURR because at that time
Speaker 3: it was a season three or four? What was that
Speaker 3: season four?
Speaker 1: It's the season four, the.
Speaker 3: Four to four. Yes, that we the ball rolling and
Speaker 3: getting unbelievable actors to play this play on curb. Just
Speaker 3: it just you know, it just fell into our lapse
Speaker 3: in such a great way. And here, I mean I
Speaker 3: must say that, you know the Missouri the Scor says,
Speaker 3: he thing, you know, directing Scurse of Marty. He hit
Speaker 3: his mark.
Speaker 1: You know as a director, Brian, is that intimidating to
Speaker 1: be directing other directors?
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta tell you something, but let me just
Speaker 3: go back to Scor says, because he was nervous and
Speaker 3: the reason he was nervous. And he told me, he says,
Speaker 3: I have done things as an actor, but as an
Speaker 3: improv actor no, And he was sort of you know.
Speaker 3: And so when he when when he was he began
Speaker 3: working on those seeds with Larry and everyone, he said
Speaker 3: this is this I'm a little and I said, fine, well,
Speaker 3: you know everything's going to be good, that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: But I was telling him that, you know, it's all
Speaker 3: going to be good, wonderful. And as far as what
Speaker 3: Jeff was saying about Paul is that there is he
Speaker 3: played his character as a stern guy so well. But
Speaker 3: you were saying, Jeff that he was in some ways
Speaker 3: he that he hit the mark with that character so
Speaker 3: well in it's part of mark.
Speaker 2: But also I'm not going to say he was a
Speaker 2: complex man because he was not a complex I mean,
Speaker 2: he was so lovely and so funny, hysterical, but he
Speaker 2: could be, like Larry, a bit of a curmudget abit
Speaker 2: missanthrow and he did not suffer fools. Bob Einstein same
Speaker 2: way did not suffer fools. So he went into full
Speaker 2: not suffer fools mode. That's where he was. And I
Speaker 2: recognized it. Yes, yeah, yes, I mentioned to him in
Speaker 2: that last scene after good Hotchkins, Bad Hotchkins, I tell
Speaker 2: him I wouldn't go on my high Houchkin's information based
Speaker 2: on party of five, correct, which is important to the
Speaker 2: next thing.
Speaker 1: Right, And then what do you call Sven? What is
Speaker 1: that in the golf club? What do you call him?
Speaker 1: The starter?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: He?
Speaker 2: How do I fucking know you? Playing nine?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Whatever you bring up? Then we're all ask Jimmy when
Speaker 1: we get off. Then we're with the venn who Larry
Speaker 1: assumes is Swedish, but he's not. He's Norwegian and he
Speaker 1: takes umbrage at that.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sven, welcome?
Speaker 4: All right? What is that? Is that Swedish?
Speaker 2: Sven?
Speaker 4: It's Norwegian?
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I thought I thought then was a Swedish name.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 4: So I don't look Swedish, do I.
Speaker 7: It's a big difference, apparently, what's the difference mask culture, looks, names, history, food, Okay, okay, sorry.
Speaker 2: Honest mistake.
Speaker 1: And you know which, I didn't know that the Scandinavians.
Speaker 1: I learned this from alec Burg. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was No. He was not on this season. They
Speaker 1: came on season five. Yeah, but but ali Bert Si
Speaker 1: who became one of our executive producers and directors and
Speaker 1: who also did Silicon Valley and Barry and et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. He told me that because he's Norwegian, I believe,
Speaker 1: but that the Scandinavians are very insulted. If you assume
Speaker 1: one is Swedish and one is Danish, and they have
Speaker 1: like this, the Sweets think the Danes are dirty, or
Speaker 1: the Danes think the Norwegians are stupid or what. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of competition between.
Speaker 3: The fun of each other.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And next thing we know, Larry comes to rehearsal
Speaker 1: in a suit because he has to go to the funeral,
Speaker 1: Leo Funkous's funeral, and he tells David Swimmer that he
Speaker 1: was in a grocery store and he saw his dad's
Speaker 1: glow whatever that's called. What is it called again, health
Speaker 1: glow nuts health, and that the cashow to Raisin. He's
Speaker 1: skimping on the cashews, he tells David Swimmer.
Speaker 4: I mean they're very.
Speaker 6: Good, the delicious, but you know, would killed him to
Speaker 6: put three more cash in there?
Speaker 8: It is, I mean the cashews are expensive. First of all,
Speaker 8: there's a you know, there's a shortage right now. Yes,
Speaker 8: it's for the last several actually the last several years.
Speaker 4: I've read about a cash show.
Speaker 8: Well, that's because you're not in the industry.
Speaker 6: Can I give him a little piece of advice, please?
Speaker 6: I would call it raisins and then let people be
Speaker 6: surprised by the Cashews.
Speaker 1: And David gets a little upset about this, there's a
Speaker 1: Cashew shortage.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, you know, it's obvious that he's
Speaker 2: lying about the Cashew shortage.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, And Larry says they should call it
Speaker 1: raisins and then be surprised by a couple of cashs.
Speaker 1: He always has good ideas. Larry always has good ideas,
Speaker 1: he really does. And he says, give me three more cashews,
Speaker 1: I'd be a happy man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Next we're at the funeral and Larry tells Jeff that
Speaker 1: he got a letter from the club that he's being
Speaker 1: put on probation for having a dirty locker and it
Speaker 1: was norm who told on him, who snitched on him,
Speaker 1: little tattletale. And during the whole thing, Larry is eating
Speaker 1: his from his health glow bag and complaining not enough cashews.
Speaker 1: Jeff says, it's not enough cashews. It's a whole problem.
Speaker 1: And then he confronts Norm and he tells them about
Speaker 1: the letter, and Norm says they don't like dirty lockers
Speaker 1: and they have a staredown. Norman Lowry, Oh, here's one I.
Speaker 2: Want to say about the stare down because I don't
Speaker 2: want to gloss over this. There was that episode with
Speaker 2: a lot of staredowns that we had talked about this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but there's two big things besides Larry David's you know,
Speaker 2: great writing. The two things about it are number one,
Speaker 2: the characters actually laugh at each other, which you don't
Speaker 2: see that on shows. You know, It's like someone will
Speaker 2: say something funny, audiences laugh, but none of the other
Speaker 2: actors react. That's your typical comedy and that's not on
Speaker 2: the show. And also, unlike other shows, I was on
Speaker 2: the show where it was always faster, faster, faster, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't actually act because it was like a machine
Speaker 2: gun thing. And we really take our time. That stare
Speaker 2: is just taking its time. Everything has its you know,
Speaker 2: space to live. And that's what I when I that
Speaker 2: occurred to me as I'm watching that scene the Great Do.
Speaker 3: You remember the first first staredown was the first.
Speaker 2: Stair down, Susie, you corrected me. I thought it was
Speaker 2: in that episode.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't remember now, but we discussed it
Speaker 1: when it happened that it was the first stair down.
Speaker 1: It was in prior seasons. It was not in this season.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I and I must must admit I when
Speaker 3: I saw the first staredown, I wondered, it's just going
Speaker 3: to work, and I wait.
Speaker 2: On the set. Here's the thing. I'm never quite enjoyed
Speaker 2: the staredown on the set.
Speaker 3: Right, And then when it went on the air, people
Speaker 3: started to me doing the stairdown and.
Speaker 2: We caught on like wildfires.
Speaker 3: And they caught on and it was like, yeah, and
Speaker 3: I think it was mentioned on a television show. I
Speaker 3: mean it was like a late night show. They started doing.
Speaker 1: Like this, and it being you became a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I never thought when I was watching it.
Speaker 1: On and pretty pretty pretty yeah. Yeah, we'll be right back,
Speaker 1: stay tuned. Okay, we're back. So then there's an open coffin,
Speaker 1: which I found very odd at a Jewish funeral.
Speaker 2: Well hold on, hold on, you're going past him going
Speaker 2: down the line, which is terribly awkward of the Funkhauser family.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but no, no, I'm not. That's I have
Speaker 1: that next. Okay, I have that next. But first they
Speaker 1: show the open coffin.
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, is not a Jewish thing.
Speaker 1: No, that's what I just said. I have never seen
Speaker 1: that at a Jewish have either of you?
Speaker 2: You've never been to a funeral with an open cast?
Speaker 1: No, neither.
Speaker 3: Just and I know we're into specifics here on the show,
Speaker 3: but that you let go.
Speaker 1: Story purpose.
Speaker 2: By the way, story thing has to serve the story,
Speaker 2: that's all. At Second City, a second City they taught
Speaker 2: us serve the scene, yes, don't say anything that's not
Speaker 2: serving the scene.
Speaker 3: Yes. And can I just say, in the evolution of
Speaker 3: this show, yamaka's start to go away in various episodes.
Speaker 2: Really yes, Well, by the way, there's a key yamica episode,
Speaker 2: Palistinian Chicken exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, we had the yamaka in a couple of episodes
Speaker 1: ago with Boris, the Russian guy who Larry accused him
Speaker 1: of wearing the yamula to cover his bald spot, right,
Speaker 1: which was not true. And then he goes through the
Speaker 1: you know, the receiving line and we see Saul funk
Speaker 1: Kowser and Marty and Marty's wife, which over the years
Speaker 1: we were never sure if her name was Nan or Anne,
Speaker 1: and I think we changed it.
Speaker 2: No, no, No, in real life it was the character
Speaker 2: was Nan.
Speaker 1: But frequently we'd call her Anne. We would mess it
Speaker 1: up all the time, Anne Ryerson, Second City.
Speaker 3: I actually think she was in the committee, the.
Speaker 2: I don't know, the San Francisco one. No, I don't
Speaker 2: think she was. No, I don't. I don't think, Brian,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say I know. I don't.
Speaker 3: I thought she was. Maybe she's not.
Speaker 1: What was Tell me what was the committee? I don't
Speaker 1: even know.
Speaker 2: It was a group out of San Francisco. Oh, no,
Speaker 2: she was in the committee. I'm thinking of the one
Speaker 2: out of San Francisco, you know, the committee she was
Speaker 2: part of.
Speaker 3: Wonderful, I think so.
Speaker 2: But what was the one in San Francisco with Fred Willard?
Speaker 2: Which one was that? You know, I'm talking about Fred
Speaker 2: Willard and the group of it was like.
Speaker 3: Four guys trucking company.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. There was a lot of groups in
Speaker 2: the seventies who had record contracts and I had them all,
Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, the committee, she might have been
Speaker 2: part of the committee.
Speaker 1: I'm hessman Hessman was his name, Howard Hessman. Howard Hessman,
Speaker 1: I remember because Esmond Hessman. That's how I always remembered it.
Speaker 1: I think about Anne Ryerson, you know.
Speaker 2: That's how I remember George Carland's name, of course, Garland carl. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how I think. I never could remember that fella's name.
Speaker 1: But Richard Richard Lewis always calls Jeff Jeff. Garland always
Speaker 1: refersd TOI as Jeff Garland.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know he's doing that to
Speaker 2: mock me, well, because he does know my name.
Speaker 1: So the thing about Anne was we never gave her
Speaker 1: a lot to do. She was always just I think.
Speaker 2: Towards the end she didn't really want to show up.
Speaker 2: Because when you work with Bob, it's about Bob, which
Speaker 2: I loved.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, Bob wasn't always gracious to her.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was ever creationous.
Speaker 1: No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2: That's part of Bob's magic, and I'm not saying that sarcastic.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Bob. So Larry then is on the receiving
Speaker 1: line and Larry asks Marty for the weatherman's tip.
Speaker 7: Very sorry, sorry that, good dad. Thanks Lorry, that's a
Speaker 7: good man. He was a great man. They've looked like golf.
Speaker 4: Sometime when you're feel better, feel up to it. I
Speaker 4: don't want to give me that weather Man's tip.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Right now I'm in mourning. No, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4: What's some other time we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: Do it.
Speaker 2: Before that. It's the first real I mean, it's one
Speaker 2: of those moments that the minute it comes out of
Speaker 2: Bob's mouth, that's funny, and it's so simple. Larry looks
Speaker 2: at him and goes, he was a good man, and Bob,
Speaker 2: with not even taking a beat, he was a great man.
Speaker 2: And it's just so funny. You wouldn't think an exchange
Speaker 2: like that would be funny. And the way he says
Speaker 2: great man, and the look on his face tremendous. And
Speaker 2: by the way, if you think Larry, you know the
Speaker 2: way he laughed where he like explodes and tries not
Speaker 2: to laugh. The minute Bob said great man, Larry lost it.
Speaker 1: And then Larry sees Jeff Rosenthal, who was a writer
Speaker 1: on Party of Five, and here's his chance.
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, Jeff Rosenthal in real life was
Speaker 2: actually a writer and it performed.
Speaker 1: No, he never worked on part okay, and this is
Speaker 1: where he gets to go ask about the Hotchkins and
Speaker 1: he's like, remember when Charlie had Hotchkins, didn't he have
Speaker 1: the good Hotchkins? And then he's explained, is Hotchkins is
Speaker 1: non Hodgkins love foma. It's better, but it's not good.
Speaker 1: And I think this is all very confusing. And then
Speaker 1: Larry goes over to the coffin and what does he see?
Speaker 2: Hold on? Just to clarify something, because it's really clarified
Speaker 2: in this scene. Hodgkins is if there is, it's the
Speaker 2: better Hodgkins because there's a higher survival rate. Correct, non Hodgkins.
Speaker 1: Non Hodgkins lymphoma.
Speaker 2: pH lymphoma is a big ball of fuck bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the good Hotchkins isn't so good either.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's better Hodgkins. That's what he's saying, is better.
Speaker 2: And by the way, when Larry comes to the coffin
Speaker 2: and tells me about it, I also say not good
Speaker 2: better like that, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And then Larry looks at the coffin and
Speaker 1: he sees Leo Funkhouser is holding a golf club. It's
Speaker 1: a five wood, and Larry notices.
Speaker 2: By the way, Brian, the way you shot that up
Speaker 2: at Larry's face looking was great because as an audience,
Speaker 2: the way he's look looking, in the way the shots
Speaker 2: set up, you have no fucking clue what's about to happen.
Speaker 2: You don't have any clue. No, And that was a
Speaker 2: great shot.
Speaker 1: And we see that it's Larry's five wood in the
Speaker 1: coffin that he's holding and he's going to be buried
Speaker 1: with it, and Larry makes the assumption that's been put
Speaker 1: Larry's club in there because he was pissed off that
Speaker 1: he calls VNN Swedish, not Norwegian. So to get back
Speaker 1: at him, he took his five wood and he put
Speaker 1: it in the coffin, and Larry's apoplectic about it. It's
Speaker 1: not replaceable, it's ten years old. He wants that five
Speaker 1: wood back, and it's kind of unconscionable that he should
Speaker 1: be buried with Larry's five wood. It's not right.
Speaker 2: Who gives a shit? Leave well enough alone. You lose
Speaker 2: the guy died, you lose the five wood.
Speaker 1: Well not according to mister David.
Speaker 2: No, but that's what the show need exactly.
Speaker 1: Then he asks you, he asked Jeff, you got your
Speaker 1: clubs in your car, in your trunk, And Jeff's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm not giving him. I like the feel, you
Speaker 1: like the feel, but yours can be replaced. You can
Speaker 1: get your club any where. And Larry says, I'll buy
Speaker 1: it for you today, and then they're at the car.
Speaker 1: They're getting Jeff's club. Then they go back to the
Speaker 1: funeral and Jeff stands watch.
Speaker 2: I was just eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorite visual scenes is Jeff
Speaker 3: and Larry walking back in with Larry with his stiff
Speaker 3: leg with the with the club.
Speaker 1: But he's got the club down his leg, down his.
Speaker 2: Leg well, by the way, the tone starts at the trunk, Yes,
Speaker 2: at the trunk, we're looking very serious. I even put
Speaker 2: my arm up to block anyone seeing the club. And
Speaker 2: then you continue with the limp in There was the
Speaker 2: second limp I think the episode before this, he's limping
Speaker 2: and the weatherman he's limping, yes, because he fell on
Speaker 2: the toilet.
Speaker 3: And then even when you go into by the coffin,
Speaker 3: when you are guarding the coffin, Jeff in a way
Speaker 3: that you know this is real, this is serious. You
Speaker 3: turn your back to the camera. It's like you're you're
Speaker 3: you're maintaining you know, you're you're like Mossau.
Speaker 1: He's on the lookout. Yeah, he's on the lookout.
Speaker 2: And Larry fighting with his hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really well, he said, riga mortis already he's trying
Speaker 1: to pry the golf club out of Leo's hands.
Speaker 3: His hands are so tight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he finally gets it and he replaces the
Speaker 1: golf club, Jeff's golf club into Leo's hand and takes
Speaker 1: his own and puts it back down his leg. And
Speaker 1: then we cut to Saul Is giving a eulogy for
Speaker 1: his uncle Leo. And I love this eulogy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: He he loved a good walk. He like you see
Speaker 1: this man as as dull as could be. You know,
Speaker 1: he liked Jeopardy. He liked ginger Ale. If anybody says
Speaker 1: in theology.
Speaker 2: She likes Saul, I got to give him credit. He
Speaker 2: had the greatest the part of that, the couplet, that's
Speaker 2: beautiful me. I wrote it down. He loved ginger Ale.
Speaker 2: A nice with the fizz, yes, A nice with the fizz.
Speaker 2: Well that's very Jerry Lewis, you know, A nice with
Speaker 2: the fizz, because Jerry used to leave words out, but
Speaker 2: you knew what he was saying. But when he said
Speaker 2: a nice with the fizz, I love that.
Speaker 1: He loved a nap, He loved Jeopardy, I mean the
Speaker 1: most simplistic things.
Speaker 2: But what was it he did every Tuesday? I forgot
Speaker 2: that's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I forgot that.
Speaker 3: There was one moment when Larry was sitting there with Jeff,
Speaker 3: is that the guy had dandruff in front of him?
Speaker 2: Yes, oh got cut right, I remember that.
Speaker 3: And that was just the one little moment, and you
Speaker 3: guys your faces were like, oh my god, this is horrible.
Speaker 2: Well, of course didn't serve the show. No, see it later, alligator,
Speaker 2: you know, right?
Speaker 1: And then wait, who goes over to the casket? Is
Speaker 1: it Marty or is it Soul? Over to the casket
Speaker 1: and he says, is this is five wood? Somebody switched
Speaker 1: the five wood? And Marty picks up a cashew, and
Speaker 1: from the back of the room in the audience, Norm
Speaker 1: gets up and says, is that a cashew? Because he
Speaker 1: saw Larry eating.
Speaker 2: Susie.
Speaker 1: You just played Larry Susie.
Speaker 2: You played it like yourself. The way Paul plays it
Speaker 2: is like, excuse me, is that a cashu and then
Speaker 2: it starts, but he does it in an inquisitive way.
Speaker 2: No one would have any idea why he's asking that.
Speaker 1: Right, and everyone stares at Larry and then we cut
Speaker 1: to our house. One of my favorite scenes.
Speaker 2: Well, let's take a step back here. What was the
Speaker 2: episode that we just had or it's the one before
Speaker 2: where Larry can't stand up because of his back.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was.
Speaker 2: And remember I was talking about how it bothered me
Speaker 2: even when we were filming it that all the people
Speaker 2: from the far side of the room to the next
Speaker 2: table began yelling at him and caused chaos, and how
Speaker 2: it made me nuts. What's beautiful about this scene the
Speaker 2: way Brian directed it. Everyone just gives them a dirty look,
Speaker 2: which is the way it would be played dirty looks,
Speaker 2: and you're feeling Larry's the pressure and if there's ever
Speaker 2: any excitement, it's in the look on Larry's face of
Speaker 2: everyone staring at him. That's the action of the scene.
Speaker 2: All the staring sets up Larry to be Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: really fucked and I'm horrified a little lesson.
Speaker 3: This is one of my favorite scenes period me too, uh,
Speaker 3: And I will always say it only because Jeff and
Speaker 3: Larry are backed up in their chair, in their seat
Speaker 3: is with such they the strength of Susie is really
Speaker 3: it's so fucking powerful. It's I mean, they can they're
Speaker 3: trolling in their seats.
Speaker 9: The truth of the matter is Cheryl cares about that club.
Speaker 9: I care about that club. Sammy goes to. They can't
Speaker 9: there with the same kids she's been with for years.
Speaker 9: And you two don't give a shit about anybody but yourself.
Speaker 9: You're a fucking narcissist.
Speaker 3: Okay, you are powerful, thank you, and you've been called
Speaker 3: on the car.
Speaker 1: I'm pissed off. I'm pissed off, and they're all sitting
Speaker 1: and I'm standing, which you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way. The problem also is she's completely right.
Speaker 2: There's nothing in this that she's wrong.
Speaker 1: She's right, well, yes, absolutely as usual, and you know
Speaker 1: the club had your name on it, and what kind
Speaker 1: of fucking idiot are you? And where's Cheryl gonna play tennis?
Speaker 1: And then Larry comes up she's not that Because I
Speaker 1: start carrying on what a great tennis player Cheryl is.
Speaker 1: Larry's like, she's not that good, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: it's all a big fucking game to you. Too, and
Speaker 1: Larry starts carrying on the five what was irreplaceable? He
Speaker 1: starts to justify, and then Cheryl comes up with, well,
Speaker 1: the Beverly Park Country Club is accepting new members, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, there's like three fucking Jews in that
Speaker 1: whole place. It's not gonna work. And it's wasp city.
Speaker 1: And Larry's like, how am I even going to pass
Speaker 1: the interview, to which I said, in exactly this jew
Speaker 1: face over here, which is a line that Jeff, you'll
Speaker 1: appreciate this. That's what I used to call Carrie Hoffman.
Speaker 1: That's where, Yes, Carrie Hoffman owned stand up New York
Speaker 1: and New York. Yes, And I used to call him
Speaker 1: jew face because he had the I'm there and I
Speaker 1: stole from myself in this scene, as we all steal
Speaker 1: from ourselves all the time. We'll be right back, stay tuned,
Speaker 1: and we're back. This jew face would stick out like
Speaker 1: a sore thumb. And then he starts fighting with me,
Speaker 1: I'm more gentilely than you, and I love that that
Speaker 1: whole take, and then Larry mentions that he'd have to
Speaker 1: walk at this golf course unless he had a doctor's note,
Speaker 1: and to which I go into wouldn't hurt you to
Speaker 1: exercise a little bit, Jeff? And then Larry gets up.
Speaker 2: By the way, a line Larry says in this scene
Speaker 2: is I don't know any doctors.
Speaker 1: I don't know any doctors. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Any doctors, which is so absurd.
Speaker 1: That's right, because all he does is go to doctors.
Speaker 1: We have scenes in doctor's offices all the time, and dentists.
Speaker 1: And then Larry gets up to go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: and Oscar is lying on the floor in the bathroom
Speaker 1: and he won't get up. Larry asks him to get up,
Speaker 1: he won't get up, and then what happens.
Speaker 2: Oscar bites his wiener.
Speaker 3: Oscar And then there's actually there's a callback whether should
Speaker 3: I sit down or should I?
Speaker 1: Yes, in past episodes previous episode he is peeing sitting down, he.
Speaker 3: Covers himself so wonderfully.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, yeah, he's always got the whole you know, the.
Speaker 3: Art, whole thing on.
Speaker 1: Yes, he comes running out of the bathroom with his
Speaker 1: skinny little legs and his pants around his ankles, hold crossed.
Speaker 2: Hold on there they're tidy Whiteyes, which is what makes
Speaker 2: it even more funny.
Speaker 3: I always kid him about that he's ahead of his
Speaker 3: time in terms of showing tidy weddies on screen. Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean you know it's.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Brian Cranston did it on Malcolm in the Middle.
Speaker 2: Malcolm in the Middle, he wore his tidy whites on there,
Speaker 2: and of course he wore him on Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3: Well, that's specific.
Speaker 2: And then I wore them on TV not too much later,
Speaker 2: and I remember calling Brian Gordon and I said, can
Speaker 2: I recover from this?
Speaker 1: And as you did the Brian Cranston episode in season nine,
Speaker 1: if I recall.
Speaker 3: Yes, but yes, yes, but you were you did one
Speaker 3: with your whities on in the bed. I remember that, Jeff,
Speaker 3: what episode was that?
Speaker 2: I don't know what was I doing in bed?
Speaker 1: We'll come to it, yes, see when we get.
Speaker 3: There, you remember, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: And then we're in the er waiting room and you know,
Speaker 1: Larry's carrying on that dog should be put to sleep,
Speaker 1: and Jeff says, it's not the first time with you
Speaker 1: and that dog, because prior I thought the dog had
Speaker 1: given Larry an erection. Jeff even says he put the
Speaker 1: dog it got in an erection. He tells Cheryl and
Speaker 1: Susie saw it and He's like, I was pettying the
Speaker 1: dog and I was just adjusting my pants. And Cheryl says,
Speaker 1: is that why Ted didn't want you to take care
Speaker 1: of his dog? This is all from the prior episode.
Speaker 1: And then the doctor comes in clearly, Gay, I know.
Speaker 2: That I forgot the name of the actor, which.
Speaker 3: Also William Ragsdale.
Speaker 2: William Ragsdale who was on a TV show called The Head,
Speaker 2: Herman's Head, but he was in a movie that holds
Speaker 2: up and is great called Fright Night. Fright Night is
Speaker 2: just the greatest, and so if you can pick that up.
Speaker 1: On a network scary, A lot of it.
Speaker 2: Is scary, but it's a comedy.
Speaker 1: I can't watch it now.
Speaker 2: You could it, Believe me, you could watch it about
Speaker 2: a vampire who moves next door and has eyes for
Speaker 2: William Ragsdale's mother.
Speaker 1: Let's leave it at that, okay. So then Larry is
Speaker 1: in the examination room with the doctor and he tells
Speaker 1: the doctor very reluctantly, a dog.
Speaker 4: A dog, but.
Speaker 2: My penis a dog picture penis okay, Well that sounds painful. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Then we find out that Larry David is Larry David
Speaker 1: and the doctor is Steve the choreographer's best friend.
Speaker 3: I love the shot in that where Larry is absorbing
Speaker 3: in realizing the story. Yes, he's realized. The doctor is Evan, Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And the guy just broke up with his partner exactly.
Speaker 1: And we get the sense that Stephen told Evan about
Speaker 1: Larry and the framed picture on his desk, because we
Speaker 1: see that Evan might be a little interested in more
Speaker 1: than just the penis bite. And Evan says to him,
Speaker 1: all right, give me, mister baggy, which is like whatever.
Speaker 1: So now we are at one of my favorite scenes
Speaker 1: of all time, and this is Larry and Cheryl's interview
Speaker 1: at Beverly Park with Ken Howard and James Sicking.
Speaker 2: And let let me tell you a story about Ken Howard. Yes,
Speaker 2: he and I were i'll say acquaintances. We became friends.
Speaker 2: He was the president of the Screen Actors Guilt correctly,
Speaker 2: and they wanted to make it sag after after was
Speaker 2: against it. Some people and SAG were against it. But
Speaker 2: the only way that the actors of which I was one,
Speaker 2: could deal with the studios was at one unified unit.
Speaker 2: Because if you remember, if it shot on video, it's
Speaker 2: after shot on film, it's SAG. But as everything became
Speaker 2: digital for the most part, they had to do it.
Speaker 2: So he said to me out of nowhere, one day
Speaker 2: he called me a thing. He said, look, I need
Speaker 2: a favor and I said what. He goes, I need
Speaker 2: this sag Affra thing to pass. I assume you're for it.
Speaker 2: You have the merge. I said, I'm absolutely for it.
Speaker 2: It has to He goes, will you run for the
Speaker 2: national board for sag And when I won, he pulls
Speaker 2: me aside and he says, it's not just helping to
Speaker 2: get this passed. I want you to be funny and
Speaker 2: say whatever's on your mind. At any point, go up
Speaker 2: and ask, because there's a microphone up front, ask absurd questions.
Speaker 2: Your job is to lighten the room because the room
Speaker 2: gets really heavy. Now in the room, there was a
Speaker 2: group of people who were very much against the merger,
Speaker 2: and every time I did anything that was funny, the
Speaker 2: anger on their face was almost like from a movie
Speaker 2: of like the straight laced guy getting pissed off the
Speaker 2: head of the university or whatever it was. And I
Speaker 2: had a doing that. And by the way, from that,
Speaker 2: that's where ken did you do the show before or after?
Speaker 2: Never mind? I don't know what I'm talking about. But anyhow,
Speaker 2: and by the way, one of my favorite shows when
Speaker 2: I was in high school was The White Shadow.
Speaker 1: Great Show and Thomas Jefferson in seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 2: Yes, but that's more your speed. Yes, because it's a musical.
Speaker 2: I like the one about basketball.
Speaker 1: And you know who played his wife was blythe Danner. Oh,
Speaker 1: blythe Danner seventeen seventy six. Jeff already talked about his
Speaker 1: relationship with Ken Howard and it's Larry pretending to be
Speaker 1: a wasp basically, which is hilarious.
Speaker 6: Could I ask you a few more questions about organizations
Speaker 6: that you belong to?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, goll I'm a moose, uh.
Speaker 6: An a Elk, You're a moose and Elk, I'm a
Speaker 6: moose elk extraordinary.
Speaker 4: I'm in the Rotary Club. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Why what other organizations are your members?
Speaker 6: We're in the Council for Conservative Citizens, National Rights to
Speaker 6: Life Committee, or in the Heritage Foundation.
Speaker 1: What do you remember about this shooting this scene, Brian.
Speaker 3: I remember laughing, but I also remember, uh the how
Speaker 3: sharp it was, just in terms of the specifics of
Speaker 3: Larry uh not only sailing and needing a captain occasionally
Speaker 3: a board, but also he was a member of the
Speaker 3: Rotary and he was a member of various conservative.
Speaker 5: Hold one of those the references were so republican and
Speaker 5: just openly republican.
Speaker 2: Com he said, hold on republic very not not jewish
Speaker 2: as not jewish as can be. And I love But
Speaker 2: here's the thing. I don't think he improvised those. I
Speaker 2: think he thought about them ahead of time and very prepared.
Speaker 3: We put a list together of conservative groups that I.
Speaker 1: Do remember, and that he and Cheryl met at a
Speaker 1: Reagan fundraiser, and that Larry Polo is more of.
Speaker 2: His game and he developed his golf swing exactly getting
Speaker 2: hit in the head with.
Speaker 1: A And I love how Jim sicking is like, well, yes,
Speaker 1: it is quite a similar kind of a swing. And
Speaker 1: they all just played so beautifully.
Speaker 3: Oh well, and Cheryl saying they were more of a September, December,
Speaker 3: December and October October. That was that was yes.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's so much gold in this scene,
Speaker 1: just little things like when Larry takes his glasses off
Speaker 1: and and he puts the tip in his mouth. Yes,
Speaker 1: and he's you know, thinking. There was just so many
Speaker 1: little subtle things about this scene. Do you remember how
Speaker 1: many times how many takes you did on this scene?
Speaker 3: Not that many. I don't think we did that many,
Speaker 3: only because I think we were. It was so sharp,
Speaker 3: and maybe two or three at the top the top,
Speaker 3: you know, just going through it, because I remember everybody
Speaker 3: feeling so good about this. It really ran so well,
Speaker 3: but the questioning of each one was so so dead
Speaker 3: on how the two of.
Speaker 1: You meet was I mean, and Larry saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I noticed a log cabin Republican in the
Speaker 1: parking lot. You know, just there's so many This scene
Speaker 1: is hilarious and the elk moose. What's funnier than I'm
Speaker 1: an elk and a moose and a moose. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then in the very end, it's all going very well
Speaker 1: and you feel like they're going to be accepted, and
Speaker 1: Larry brings up it gives them his doctor's note because
Speaker 1: because of the polo accident that he was in he
Speaker 1: could no longer walk the course. He needs a cart.
Speaker 3: But therein lies the beauty of curb, which is called
Speaker 3: back that was set up so early, and it it
Speaker 3: was used and it was just it was perfect.
Speaker 1: There's very few things that are that are left hanging.
Speaker 1: There's very few things that are not used. And then,
Speaker 1: of course the denu ma of the episode is Larry
Speaker 1: is in his office where he calls Delilah, the dental
Speaker 1: hygienis who is supposed to have an assignation.
Speaker 4: With Hey, Delilah's Larry David. Hi, Larry, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 4: I'm noting able to Mega tonight.
Speaker 2: Why not a dog bit my penis? The end hangs
Speaker 2: up very fun, by the way, because I'm always very
Speaker 2: self conscious. I cannot. I mean, I'm yawning a lot.
Speaker 2: And then I got very excited because I thought you
Speaker 2: didn't have coffee this morning? He didn't sleep, all right,
Speaker 2: I got that out.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you Jeff for sharing. Brian. Any last words
Speaker 1: about directing this episode.
Speaker 3: Eighteen years ago. It was on eighteen years ago, and
Speaker 3: it's as fresh as.
Speaker 2: Today, by the way, for me too. I remember locations,
Speaker 2: I remember where I was standing, like every that comes
Speaker 2: flying back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that is because I can remember other shows
Speaker 3: I have done that I have no memory.
Speaker 2: Of, you know, ild on hold on the Michael Richards
Speaker 2: show that we did together. The only thing I remember
Speaker 2: from that show what the sideburns Ryan.
Speaker 1: I do believe also that this is the first time
Speaker 1: you directed me, not the lasting.
Speaker 3: If I may just ask you in terms of your
Speaker 3: own wardrobe and what you go through to put it.
Speaker 3: You know, at that point in time, where were you
Speaker 3: in terms of you of your own design of how
Speaker 3: you're going to dress?
Speaker 1: I think I was fully Susie Green, but as the
Speaker 1: seasons progressed got more so.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She What we discussed is this is stuff that she's making.
Speaker 2: Because in the last episode, I believe you wore one
Speaker 2: of your bedazz old sweatshirts. Oh no, yeah, yes, because
Speaker 2: it was I forgot Buffalo, but it was a team
Speaker 2: that made no sense for you to wear no affiliation.
Speaker 2: But it's it's popping in at this point, Ryan, it's
Speaker 2: popping in and it'll soon be taken over.
Speaker 1: It'll win. H wait till people see the season twelve,
Speaker 1: unless they've seen it already by the time this years, Oh.
Speaker 2: My es twelve is a big ball of wow. Basically
Speaker 2: it was it was wow. That's all I can say.
Speaker 3: You're you blessed through it in a way that you know,
Speaker 3: it just gives it such.
Speaker 1: Thank you love. The wardrobe was actually my idea. I mean,
Speaker 1: I worked in conjunction with our designers, but the way
Speaker 1: she dressed was my idea.
Speaker 2: Well, oh my god, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for coming right, you'll come back in
Speaker 1: a later season.
Speaker 5: Thank you, and thank you so very much, and we'll
Speaker 5: see you all next week.
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