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Speaker 1: Season ten of Look At thought Our Radio is totally nostalgic.

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Speaker 1: We're diving in with a four part series about the

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Speaker 1: Latinos who shaped pop culture in the early two thousands.

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Speaker 1: Season ten is also launching in the wake of LA

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Speaker 3: Tune in to Look at Our Radio Season ten. Now

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Speaker 3: Loga O LAO La Loka Motes. Welcome to season ten

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Speaker 3: Loka Dora Radio is a podcast dedicated to archiving our

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Speaker 3: Capitulo Doscientos Nio two twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Last time on Loca to our radio, we brought you

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Speaker 1: our coverage from the Fighting Oligarchy rally here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: Today we are bringing back our mini series Totally Nostalgic,

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Speaker 1: We started off our Totally Nostalgic series with an interview

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Speaker 3: We sat down with Kathleen or Less. You might remember

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Speaker 3: her voice as the iconic voice of Dora the Explorer.

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Speaker 1: The original the original voice of Dora the Explorer from

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Speaker 3: Dora the Explorer is. Okay. The first episode of Dora

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Speaker 3: the Explorer features the adventures of young Dora, her monkey,

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Speaker 3: each episode, viewers joined Dora on an adventure in an

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Speaker 3: Amazing. And this is a really niche question, but you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, be a part of Don't go Anywhere, Look Amotives.

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Speaker 3: I love hearing that backstory so much because I wonder if,

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Speaker 1: It really is amazing. And I am stuck on what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from what I remember, it didn't get picked up

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Speaker 1: So had you been had you been voicing Dora without

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Speaker 2: I auditioned without having her image, so it was just

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, and do you remember when you

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Speaker 2: Thoughts her head? It was just like so.

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Speaker 4: I always remember like I always had that bell. I

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Speaker 2: Of like, oh my gosh, she looks so much like Dora,

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Speaker 2: I was definitely like more as a kid. I was

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Speaker 2: definitely a little chubbier, and I owe that always happened

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Speaker 2: so I thought that was like really cute. She doesn't

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Speaker 3: And I love that it was your mom who reminded

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Speaker 2: I forget sometimes that my mom has all of the information.

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Speaker 2: my mom has She's like, she is my best friend,

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Speaker 2: She was twenty when she had me, No, twenty four,

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Speaker 2: thankful that my mom was there to protect me and

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00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: to help me navigate the industry the way that she did.

434
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: Did your friends at school know that you were a

435
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: child actor and that you were doing TV shows and

436
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: auditioning and pageants? Was that just your work life and

437
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: you left it at work and then when you were

438
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: at school you were just in school, yes and no.

439
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: Growing up, I grew up in Queens and I was

440
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: going to a private school. It was a Greek Orthodox school,

441
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: so I had I think I went there from the

442
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: beginning since kindergarten and I was there till sixth grade.

443
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: And most and it were small classes. I think my

444
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: class the biggest it got was like twenty people in

445
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: the whole grade, so very small school. So I think

446
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: they kind of knew and like knew the whole process.

447
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: But because I knew them all from before and throughout

448
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: the whole thing, we had built friendships and relationships where

449
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: it wasn't like, you know, it was cool, and I

450
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: would invite and take some of them to like little

451
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: movie premieres that they would have at the Nickelodeon offices

452
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: and things, but it was never like how my experience

453
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: was in middle school, which I'll get to that in

454
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: a second, Okay, But so I think the beginning years

455
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: was kind of like easier to navigate. And before we

456
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: moved to Long Island, I had went to public school

457
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: for maybe like half a year, and that was kind

458
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: of weird because I feel like I was still being

459
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: taken out of school or not really in school at

460
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: the time. I was doing like half days in the

461
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: studio or like half weeks in the studio, and then

462
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: half the other week I was in school, So it's

463
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: kind of weird. So people kind of knew and then

464
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: I got made fun of a little bit I guess,

465
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: because you know, Dora was seen as like a kid

466
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: show and I was already like in like fifth grade

467
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: at that point. But at whatever, then I left. I

468
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: went to Long Island, and I remember telling my mom,

469
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to know. I just want to

470
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: go start fresh, and I don't want that to be

471
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: like a topic of discussion at least in the beginning,

472
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: you know. And then I would tell people when I

473
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: was ready. So my mom made sure to tell the

474
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: guidance counselor this is what she wants, because obviously she

475
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: had to tell them because I would be taken out

476
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: early and things like that. So she's like, fine, no problem.

477
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: She takes me to my homeroom class, my guidance counselor.

478
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: She's telling my homeroom teacher who I am, and a

479
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: student comes up at the same time, and I'm like no.

480
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: I remember just being like stunned there. And this was

481
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: sixth grade and this school was huge in comparison to

482
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 2: what I was used to. And she went back and

483
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: told everyone in the class and then it was kind

484
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: of like lost from there, and I'm like, well, what

485
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: was my secret and.

486
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 3: What was their reaction? I mean, middle school is rough.

487
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: I would never want to go back to middle school ever.

488
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: Again.

489
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: You couldn't pay me so.

490
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: Horrible.

491
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: So what was the reaction?

492
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: There was a mix. Some thought it was really cool.

493
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: Some was like some people were like, oh, that's cool,

494
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: but like who cares, Like let's get to know you,

495
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: which was really cool too. Some people thought I was

496
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: lying my best friend, well I'm still friends with now.

497
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: She thought I was lying the whole time.

498
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: Oh wow, she's my best friend now, so that's fine.

499
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: And and then some people just would make fun of

500
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: me about it. I think I don't I think too,

501
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 2: like without social media and really understanding what voice acting was.

502
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't online the set of like, you know,

503
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: a show where you could see my face, so people

504
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: I don't think people really understood like what I was doing.

505
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: So I think maybe it just came from that, and maybe,

506
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: you know, maybe jealousy because I was leaving school early,

507
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: and maybe I was like being I, you know, people

508
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: excuse me for more things and things like that. So

509
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: it's just kind of hard, especially like you said, middle school,

510
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: it was just such a weird time. Everyone's changing, people

511
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: are changing faster than other people. I'm trying to figure

512
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: out like who I am, and you were working a

513
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: lot and you were a working actor. I was a

514
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: working actor. Yeah, and we did a lot. I mean

515
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: at the time at that time, Dora was like, we

516
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: were doing games. We were doing all of these online games,

517
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: we were doing toys. It was just it was a lot.

518
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: It was definitely a lot. And at the same time,

519
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: not that this is related or anything, I was struggling

520
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: a lot with my weight at the time, so I

521
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: was really like insecure and self conscious about my body

522
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: and things like that. So it's just kind of hard

523
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: to navigate all of that, all of that stuff.

524
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: I'm thinking for bringing that up, because I think that that's,

525
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: you know, one of the parts of being like a

526
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, a unique, not a unique, not quite

527
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: the opposite of unique, a universal experience for girls right

528
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: growing up in whether they're an elementary school, middle school,

529
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: high school, growing up, there's these body image issues, especially

530
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: if you're a girl of a young girl of color, right,

531
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: maybe you have a larger body than your peers. And

532
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: so how was that for you as you were also

533
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: voicing one of the biggest characters at that time, but also,

534
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: like you said, like I was just in middle school.

535
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: I was just a girl. What was that like?

536
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: Navigating it was hard because I was getting pulled from school,

537
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: so I really I couldn't do like extracurriculars or anything

538
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: like that, at least in middle school. In high school

539
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: I was able to participate in like the musicals and things,

540
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: but that was also hard to But especially in middle school,

541
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't really like participate in a lot of things.

542
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: And making friends was definitely hard because especially because I

543
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: wasn't there, there wasn't a lot of times for me

544
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: to like really connect with people in a deep way.

545
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: I mean I did eventually, you know, find those few

546
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: people that I did connect with, but it was definitely

547
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: hard and kind of balance all of it school work, traveling,

548
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: then like my home, and then at home too, like

549
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: you know, I have a brother and things, and you know,

550
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 2: just like trying to balance it all. I think it

551
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: was really difficult for me at the time, and especially

552
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: with my weight, you know, being mostly a voice actor

553
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: at the time because as a kid and not having

554
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: so much time to give, like you know, my priority

555
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: was Dora and the show and with Nickelodeon and so

556
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: and a lot of times I was recording by myself

557
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: at that time, and you know, so being by myself

558
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: but also like being overweight, and you know, I felt

559
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: comfortable in the booth because I was by myself. No

560
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: one's looking at me, and my body doesn't matter, it's

561
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: just my voice. So I do feel a sense of

562
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: comfort every time I'm in the booth, which is really

563
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: weird but also really amazing, and every time I would

564
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: and then when I started auditioning again and being in person,

565
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: I just felt very self conscious because I, you know,

566
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: I was bigger than everyone else, and a lot of

567
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: times I was being castid for things that I don't

568
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: know where I didn't know why I was being castered,

569
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: or maybe it was just kind of like I don't know,

570
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: I just looking at everyone else and then kind of

571
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: looking at me. I was just like, oh, I don't

572
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: really know if I'm supposed to be here. And I

573
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: definitely felt pressure for my mom too, which is like

574
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: a whole other thing. And I started doing like these

575
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: these weight I don't know if you guys remember herbal life,

576
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: but I started doing it like these shakes in school

577
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: in middle school. And I remember like my homeroom, my home,

578
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: mech I think it was homech it's called like with cooking,

579
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: and you learn cooking. She would let me like leave

580
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: my shakes like in the fridge. So when I started

581
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: to do that, and like I started to lose weight

582
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: and things. And it's so crazy because I remember at

583
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: the time being in middle school and all of those

584
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: things and doing all of that. I remember like really

585
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, like this is like this is great.

586
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: Like I'm making the decision, like I think this is

587
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: the right path for me to do. And I'm like

588
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: looking back and I'm like that was horrible for me

589
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: to do, like you know, but I did. It did

590
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: help me like lose weight and things like that, but

591
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't ever give you the confidence that you need

592
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: to be in your own body. And that's just like

593
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: a whole another conversation, right which you have to feel

594
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: feel comfortable in your writing no matter how much you weigh,

595
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: how high it is, how low, whatever it is. As

596
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: if you're not comfortable in it, that's something else that

597
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: we need to work on. And I'm doing that work.

598
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm still doing that work now with like a therapist

599
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: and really trying to understand kind of like my relationship

600
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: with food, especially you know, being Latina, being Hispanic growing

601
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: up like you just have to eat clean plate club

602
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: like that was like the thing.

603
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and being proving like Papa's heros. You know

604
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: it's the best in the world.

605
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, and then then yes, yes, right exactly, you see, yes,

606
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: And it's just kind of hard to like break out

607
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: of that, and you don't realize, like as a kid,

608
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: you all of these things that we learn, it's kind

609
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: of hard to like unlearn them as we get older,

610
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: and kind of like bringing it back to Dora, I

611
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: really do see how impactful it is. How even the

612
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: littlest things of teaching like words in Spanish or like

613
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: teaching how to explore just being a leader and being

614
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: somebody that looks like us, even though it may be subtle,

615
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: it was so impactful and so meaningful. And I understand

616
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: that so much now, and uh, I feel like it's

617
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: really pushing me to want to be better.

618
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I'm fascinated too by how you seem so well adjusted.

619
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. You seem very

620
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: sane and well adjusted. And I only bring that up

621
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: because you are a former child actor, and I think

622
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: the industry notoriously like traumatizes child actors who then grow

623
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: up to be like very dysfunctional adults. And I think

624
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: since the beginning of the cinema, we have so many

625
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: examples of child actors who were mistreated or who were overworked,

626
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: who didn't get to be kids, didn't get what they needed,

627
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: their parents didn't protect them.

628
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 4: What have you?

629
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: Why do you think that you having voiced this huge

630
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: character and it sounds like over the course of many years,

631
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: like your entire adolescence, why do you think that you

632
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: have turned out the way that you have maybe compared

633
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: to some of the other child actors from the same

634
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: time period and from the same network.

635
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: Even Yeah, it's hard to answer that question, right, because

636
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: you don't know exactly everyone. You only see what you

637
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: see on social media, right, But there's always things that

638
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: are happening or things that will never know what's going

639
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: on behind the scenes at home or at school or

640
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: things like that. But for me, because everything, at least

641
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: in my opinion, because of everything was happening in New York,

642
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: I was living in New York, I was recording in

643
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: New York. Most of my work was in New York.

644
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't really a part of like kind of like

645
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: that La Hollywood and like surrounded by all of these

646
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: other actors and child actors. If anything, I was the opposite.

647
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: I feel like I was alienated. I didn't have like

648
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: other kids aside from like the kids in my cast,

649
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: to kind of like talk to about, you know, the

650
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: work that we're doing, or to find someone who can

651
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: like mentor me and like voice acting or in acting

652
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: in general. Like I just felt like a lone wolf

653
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: really and for a very long time until like recently,

654
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: So maybe that was part of it. I feel like

655
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: because I just wasn't surrounded by all of that. I

656
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: was kind of like, you know, in a bubble here.

657
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: And I mean I, like I said, like my mom

658
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: was just very involved. She was always there for me.

659
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: I had a really great support system at least at home.

660
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: I need to give a lot of credit to God,

661
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: where you know, I grew up in a faith based household,

662
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: and I do think he protected me my whole life

663
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: and throughout many situations. But I say that to say

664
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: there was like there were struggles, so like I said

665
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: about like my weight and things like that, and there

666
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: were a lot of things that I had to fight

667
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: and grow and and understand as I got older, and thankfully,

668
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: I think just like the pieces just fell right for me.

669
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: I mean after the show when they recasted, I was

670
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: graduating from high school going into college and I wasn't

671
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: even I was kind of upset, but not really upset.

672
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I need to leave Dora behind. I

673
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: don't know who I am. I need to find out

674
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: who I am without Dora. And I was going to

675
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: school for communications. I wasn't dorming, but I was like

676
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: working at the mall. I was like doing like so

677
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: many different things, but I kind of just wanted to

678
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: explore a different part of me and my life and

679
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: who I'm going to be for the rest of my life.

680
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know. And throughout that whole time, it wasn't perfect.

681
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: I wasn't perfect, but somehow I found my way, and

682
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: you know, I learned a lot about myself and I'm

683
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: you know, I'm growing and I'm getting better and I

684
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: feel like I don't know, just so a lot of

685
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 2: things have happened, but thankfully I'm still here to kind

686
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: of like be better and work on myself. And that's

687
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: all you can try to do, right And thankfully I have,

688
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, a pretty good sound mind. I think to

689
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: kind of make good decisions and kind of like evaluate

690
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: some things. My husband may tell you otherwise, you know.

691
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: I Yeah, you just try it one day at a time, right,

692
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: That's all you can do.

693
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for sharing that. And I

694
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: want to go back to the piece about you finding

695
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 3: out you were recast, Right, so how many years were

696
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: you did you voice Dora? And now you're taking on

697
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: this new role. So I want to hear like from

698
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: there to now what that was, what that's been like.

699
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been pretty cool. So if you count the

700
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: pilot years also, so from seven and then when I

701
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: knew I was getting recasted, I was eighteen, but I

702
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: was still doing there was still some overlap between me

703
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: and the next Dora, so maybe like a little more

704
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: so like eleven maybe eleven to twelve years, like in total, which,

705
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: like you said, it was basically my whole childhood. It

706
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: feels like like one life, right and then like now

707
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm living like a second life. And so after college

708
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: and things like that, I ended up leaving the industry

709
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: for a little bit and I was working in interior design.

710
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: Loved my job. I did project management. I was having

711
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: a great time COVID hit. Lost my job and I

712
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: found out people were auditioning from home. So I was like, oh,

713
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: let me do that, because you never know, you can

714
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: book something, money, pay pay the bills and things like that.

715
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: So I started to do that. I contacted my old

716
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: manager and they were like, yeah, sure, we'll start sending

717
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: you out, no, no problem. So I was like great.

718
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: I think like a year later, I found a job.

719
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: I was working again, but I was still auditioning from

720
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: home because it was just easy to do. And I

721
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: got this, Well, so this is another exclusive I haven't

722
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think I've mentioned this before.

723
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: I got an audition for Issa the Iguana, and I

724
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know, like Esa, so I did it.

725
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I even submitted for it. I was like, no,

726
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to pass on this one. And then a

727
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: little later I got the audition for Mommy and I

728
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's kind of cool. And then also

729
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: at that time it clicked right like, oh, like their reboot.

730
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna do a reboot of the show. There's so

731
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: many other reboots, and I was like, oh, reboot. I

732
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: was like, this isn't this just happen like not too

733
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: long ago. But then I'm like thinking about it, it's

734
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: been like you know, it's been ten years already, and

735
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, wow, that's okay sure. And then I

736
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: was like, all right, I'm going to audition for this,

737
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: and I was like this is this would be so cool,

738
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: like to come back, and because I don't think I

739
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: ever wanted to be Dora again. Like I said, I

740
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: think that was like my time, so to be part

741
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: of it in this way, to kind of play her mom,

742
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: my own mom in a sense, was kind of cool

743
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: and full circle. So I auditioned for it, and I

744
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: didn't expect anything, but it was something that I was

745
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 2: curious to see if I would get. So I remember

746
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: like emailing my manager like Hi, did you hear back?

747
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: Did you hear back, which like you normally don't do

748
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: because it just kind of like you never know. But

749
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 2: then three months later I got a call. I remember

750
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: I was sitting at work in my cubicle and they

751
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: called me and I went into a phone booth and

752
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: he told me that I got it. I was like,

753
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: no way. He's like, yeah, they want you to play mommy,

754
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: And like I started getting so emotion on this phone booth.

755
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: I was like, this is so crazy, Like I know,

756
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: like that call that you get, like so many people

757
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: like work so hard to get and for me to

758
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: get it for a show twice in a sense like

759
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: I was just so like overwhelmed and so thankful to

760
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: be a part of it again. And I knew it

761
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: changed my life one time, and it's still here and

762
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: hopefully it can, like you know, change my life in

763
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: other ways too. But it's also like really fulfilling in

764
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: a real full circle to kind of be able to

765
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: look at my past and see it in a different

766
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: way and then channel all of that to bring it

767
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: back into this character as as the mom you know

768
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: as Dora's Mom.

769
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: Our series that we are like including in this tenth

770
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: season of our show, and one of the reasons why

771
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: we wanted to talk to you. We have the series

772
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: called Totally Nostalgic, and we are feeling nostalgic, and we're

773
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: thinking about our childhoods and our adolescents and the late

774
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: nineties and the early two thousands, and I'm wondering if

775
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: you feel ever a sense of nostalgia for that time

776
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: in your life, as it pertains to the show, even

777
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: with you know, the journey you've gone on and leaving

778
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: the child Dora in the past and figuring out who

779
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: you are. Do you ever feel a sense of nostalgia

780
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: about that time period?

781
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: For sure, Like with the show. It's kind of sad too,

782
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: because I feel like I've pushed it away from me

783
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: for so long. Like I said, like after college, and

784
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: I didn't really talk about it. I kind of didn't

785
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 2: like when people brought it up, or like I didn't

786
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: like using it as like my fun fact when I

787
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: got a new job or things like that. My husband does,

788
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: but I don't. But I don't know. That's still something

789
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: I'm like thinking about, like why I was doing that

790
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: for so long, and when I knew I was going

791
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: to be voicing Mommy and then I was, you know,

792
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 2: I got the same opportunity to do like a bunch

793
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: of conventions at once with this one company. They were

794
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: kind of like, Okay, what's your social media presence. I'm like, no,

795
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: I have one, Like it's kind of like just for

796
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: me and I post like my my outfits and like

797
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 2: my you know whatever, and they're like, do you post

798
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: about Dora. I'm like no, And They're like why, and

799
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, you know, I don't know.

800
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if it's because I didn't

801
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: want the attention or I didn't want to talk about it,

802
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: or I didn't think it was like cool because it

803
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: wasn't cool. I don't know. It was so many different things,

804
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: and they were like, well, post about it, because you know,

805
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: people need to know, like if you're gonna be at

806
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: you know, this city or that city, and you need

807
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 2: a way to connect with them. So I was like okay.

808
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: So then I started posting about it on TikTok and Instagram,

809
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 2: and it kind of like blew up in a way

810
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: like where I didn't think people cared about me or

811
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: the show or or you know, all of that. And

812
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 2: when I got hit with all of these stories and

813
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: the songs that we used to sing and all of

814
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: these different things, like it kind of like all like

815
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: flooded back. And even now, like every time I talk

816
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: about it, I get like so overwhelmed because it it's

817
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: such a big part of me, and it's it's like

818
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: I look at my all of these things and I'm like,

819
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: that's that's like me, Like I grew up with her,

820
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 2: Like every time I look at her, I feel that nossage,

821
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: I feel all of those different things, and it's so

822
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: beautiful because I feel like I kept it in like

823
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: a box and now it's kind of open and I'm

824
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: able like to tap into that and really like and

825
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: feel all of those feelings that I feel like I

826
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: was kind of like shoving off for a long time

827
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: and I just yeah, I'm like embracing it now and

828
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: it's it's overwhelming because I probably haven't done that in

829
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: so long, but it is kind of beautiful. Like I

830
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 2: love doing the voice now, I love singing the songs

831
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: and going back and watching like you know, the episodes,

832
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: especially that first the first the theme song for the

833
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: first season with the computer that like, every time I

834
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: watch that, I'm just like it's just like grin ear

835
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: to ear, Like it's just so cool. That part is

836
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: always going to be nostalgic for me.

837
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you so much. I do want to

838
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 3: just like a couple of final wrap up questions. Can

839
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: you tell us about when the show is launching, because

840
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 3: I know it's launching launching soon.

841
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it actually aired, Yes, it aired April twelfth of

842
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: last year, so it's almost a one year anniversary. It

843
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: is a vail to watch on Paramount. Plus the first

844
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: two seasons are on there, and this past September it

845
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: is now like on cable and on other on Nickelodeon now,

846
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: so you can watch it there. And yes, hopefully we'll

847
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: hear some more good news in the future for that.

848
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: Oh and they have. I don't know if people are aware.

849
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: There's podcasts too that the show is doing. There's like

850
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: a Dora's Recipe for Adventure, which is really cool, the

851
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: podcast for kids, but they make different recipes throughout each

852
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 2: episode and it's pretty cool. There's great music. Mommy's there,

853
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: Poppy's there, Auila's there, so it's actually really fun.

854
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 3: That conversation with Kathleen was so touching, so beautiful, so profound.

855
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: It went places I didn't think it was going to go.

856
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: But I'm so glad we got her for this series

857
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: because talk about nostalgia, talk about cultural impact and staying power,

858
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: and a Latina behind the voice, which I feel like

859
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: at that time was not very important to network executives,

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Speaker 3: but it was the exception here at Nickelodeon. So I'm

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Speaker 1: She shared really personal stories and details about growing up

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Speaker 1: and what the show has meant to her and the

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Speaker 1: hope you guys like this interview.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to another episode of Loka Radio.

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Speaker 3: We'll catch you next time, Bestsos. Loka to A Radio

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Speaker 3: is executive produced by Viosa Fem and Mala Munios.

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Franco is our producer.

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Speaker 3: Story editing by Me viosa.

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Speaker 1: Creative direction by me Mala.

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Speaker 3: Look At Radio is a part of iHeartRadio's Michael Dura

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Speaker 3: podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: You can listen to lok At Radio on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Leave us a review and share with your prima or

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Speaker 3: share with your homegirl.

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Speaker 1: And thank you to our loc a morees to our

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Speaker 1: listeners for tuning in each and every week.

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Speaker 3: Besitos