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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition All the Smoke. Jack, what's up?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? Brother ahead? I look nice? Have

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Speaker 1: it to be back. Appreciate you, bro. You're explaining we

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Speaker 1: need to get them shoes though, to me, l b J,

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Speaker 1: shout out Jack, these lebron's right your boy to Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out what sweatsuit to go with because

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Speaker 1: this goes with this one and the other one goes

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Speaker 1: on the other one. But yeah, these motherfucker's clean right here.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, we got a special guest in the building,

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Speaker 1: man legend in the space. We're gonna start it off,

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Speaker 1: but obviously we got Wis Kalif from the building today.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming so, y'all. Appreciate you all for having

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Speaker 1: me super fresh. I was like caught up in the freshness.

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Speaker 1: Shit real way was a world wind. What did you

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Speaker 1: take from this last year? For me? It was all

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Speaker 1: about like family time, like balancing, kind of like reconnecting

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Speaker 1: and ship like I haven't been off of the road

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Speaker 1: and at least like ten or twelve years I've been

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Speaker 1: touring consistently, recording consistently, Um, just just moving and shaking,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. There hasn't been a time

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Speaker 1: period where I wasn't doing anything. So for me to

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Speaker 1: not be traveling and not going anywhere, it was like

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Speaker 1: a crazy reset, you know what I mean. It hasn't

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Speaker 1: been like that since I was a kid. Hell, you know,

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Speaker 1: especially having to stay in the house, to like not

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Speaker 1: being able to physically go anywhere, be in contact with anybody.

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Speaker 1: It was it was like it's pretty extreme, but um,

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Speaker 1: you know, having my eight year old is really cool.

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Speaker 1: Like shoutout to Sebastian and my son, and you know,

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Speaker 1: just making sure his life and his routine was kind

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Speaker 1: of going how it should. School kept him entertained, so

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Speaker 1: he had to stay on the zoom school, but also

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Speaker 1: giving him breaks in between that and trying to keep

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Speaker 1: him physical and moving around and just entertained throughout the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. So it was it was a cool little reset.

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Speaker 1: And you know, as far as business, I did a lot,

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Speaker 1: you know, business wise that didn't have to do with music. Um.

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Speaker 1: I started a online restaurant called hot Box with wiz

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Speaker 1: Yes delivery only, so we were able to utilize the

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Speaker 1: fact that people weren't, you know, going and sitting down

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Speaker 1: in restaurants. So I was able to do that. My

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Speaker 1: liquor company went up because everybody was at home. The

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Speaker 1: pressure drinking uh khalifa kush went up because we was

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Speaker 1: an essential business and you know we've been doing that

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Speaker 1: for years. So it was a lot of cool little things.

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Speaker 1: Acting in television, Um, I'm on the show called Duncanville

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Speaker 1: where I do a voiceover. I played. His character's name

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Speaker 1: is Mr Mitch. He's like the counselor. He's like the

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Speaker 1: cool ass nigga that that all the kids funk with.

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Speaker 1: But I was able to record two seasons at home,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just sitting right in my

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Speaker 1: backyard in my studio. So um, business wise, I got

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Speaker 1: a lot of ship done. I just wasn't able to

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Speaker 1: like physically traveling this ship. But what they say, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you should, you know, bearing health, come out of this

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Speaker 1: better than you went in. Yeah we we didn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we came out a lot better than we went in,

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Speaker 1: you know, with blessings and like you said, just being

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Speaker 1: to first time you got you think we start pooping

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Speaker 1: for basketball. It was the first time. And then once

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Speaker 1: we retired to we're both working for news stations, so

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Speaker 1: was the first time I got to sit out and

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Speaker 1: So I definitely appreciated the reset to Man, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad it's over because the home school was stressing me.

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Speaker 1: Was a movie bro. I found appreciation for teachers. Man,

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Speaker 1: shout out to you teachers out there. Man, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to keep two in and ten. I couldn't imagine keeping

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Speaker 1: the whole gut them class entertain Yeah, school is needed,

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Speaker 1: like you realize, Like yo, they need to be social

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Speaker 1: and they need to so much more than just to work.

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Speaker 1: It's interaction and it's I love my son to death,

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Speaker 1: for a reason. It ain't cheat. So Born in North Dakota,

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Speaker 1: childhood and upbringing was like. Bouncing around so much, just

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Speaker 1: lot of mother Funcker's I knew from my childhood that

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Speaker 1: were reintroduced to me when I got older and ship.

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Speaker 1: So it was cool, man, it was fun. I definitely

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Speaker 1: got to experience a lot. And like you said, you

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Speaker 1: and I got to mix it up a lot. Like

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is super hood, but like moving around, well there's

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Speaker 1: And it helped me out, like getting older too, to

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Speaker 1: like my my younger like my junior high was mixed,

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Speaker 1: all white high school. So that's really when I've learned

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Speaker 1: how to And people say, because I'm half Italian and

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Speaker 1: that's how you really you feel that now, that's how

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Speaker 1: And that's just important, man, it helps out a lot,

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Speaker 1: definitely important. When did you start writing? When when did

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Speaker 1: that become a passion of yours? Um? I started writing,

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Speaker 1: and like third grade, maybe I got like a lot

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Speaker 1: so like Pocket Biggie had just died, fucking you know,

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Speaker 1: everything was kind of changing. Music was changing. You had, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember going and getting his first album like as

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Speaker 1: we listened to so much music. Bro. Like we would

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Speaker 1: and then as time went on, like my musical tastes

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Speaker 1: So it was just a process of just my own

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Speaker 1: third grade? Who were some of your inspirations? You mentioned

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Speaker 1: some people you were listening to? You know, you said

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Speaker 1: Jay was, you know, instrumental in parts of your game?

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Speaker 1: Who did you do try to patting your game to

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Speaker 1: anybody else's? Do you take bits and pieces from people? Yeah? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: man Um. I feel like my whole just existence is

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Speaker 1: first song. I'm like, yeah, they got cold and Cam,

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Speaker 1: to spite what I was hoping. So where did your

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Speaker 1: Where did the name Wiz come from? Wiz comes from

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Speaker 1: me always being into technology and ship and just being

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Speaker 1: into school, like my dad made me do like fucking

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Speaker 1: So that was my first name. It was fully Wisdom. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but my dad used to just call me Wis, and

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Speaker 1: And then the khalifa my dad, I mean, my my

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Speaker 1: granddad is Muslim. So I got that name when I

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Speaker 1: was real, real young. I just put them both together

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Speaker 1: and then came up with it, just converted. Congrats, Brom,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, you said you stopped drinking and

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Speaker 1: all that. That's gangster. I'm happy, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I'm in a good place. It's a good place to be. Tattoos,

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Speaker 1: When did you realize that that was something that's going

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Speaker 1: I got my first tattoo when I was sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: it was crazy because my mom actually was like, yo,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get on tattoo your mom? Yeah

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Speaker 1: hell yeah, but yes, So I got my first one

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Speaker 1: You see, that's what it's gonna ask. I mean you

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Speaker 1: first big check, first big check? Huh? Yeah, ran out

426
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 1: to my first my first big check. I bought the

427
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 1: I bought the Yellow and the Black Zixact Change, and

428
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: I bought the Black and Yellow Challenger. That's what I did. Yeah,

429
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: and then and then I wrote black and Yellow right

430
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 1: after I had to get the money back. Yeah, definitely

431
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 1: did so talk to us about that process. Black and Yellow,

432
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: it was. It was inspired the Pittsburgh Steelers end up

433
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. Yeah, right after that, it's

434
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: it's been you did a purple and yellow. But talk

435
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 1: to us about where that came from, and that the

436
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: the vibe and the wave that was on it and

437
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: it was your hometown team. Yeah, that was crazy because

438
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: I always wanted um like, I look at people's moments

439
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: in their careers and ship like that, and they say,

440
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: you gotta like moment the grades to becoming great. But

441
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: just me, I know what a standout sucking moment is

442
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: to look at what people's moments are, Like Snoop Uh,

443
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, when he came out and

444
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: his first video and he's running from the dog. Actual

445
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 1: he turned to the dog and he's like on top

446
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: of the the record store and everything. It's like that's

447
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: the monumental Snoop Dog moment. And the songs like from Snoops,

448
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: like Gin and Juice like that will never ever, ever, ever,

449
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: ever ever ever go away. So when I'm creating my

450
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: first single, now mind you, I'm coming off a cushion

451
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 1: orange juice, and I hate record labels, but I'm like, okay, cool,

452
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: I'm back in the building. I gotta make a single,

453
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm not gonna walk

454
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: in here with a mixtape record. I gotta make a single.

455
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: So my idea of a great single and something that's

456
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: a standout moment is something that represents my city because

457
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: I love Picksburgh so much. Everybody from Pittsburgh, we love

458
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 1: our city. We reaped four, one, two, black and yellow

459
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: all day. So that was my initial thing was like, Okay,

460
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna going here. I'm gonna write a hit about

461
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: my city. The actual words and the beat and all

462
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: that ship that just came from up above, Like you

463
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's just that's magic how that

464
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: stuff happens. But the intention was there was like make

465
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: a hit, make it be your standout record. Um I

466
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: recorded that song and maybe June and uh. Black and

467
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: Yellow didn't come out until August, I think, and that

468
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: whole time, the Atlantic was trying to give me to

469
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: record more and more songs that we need another blah blah.

470
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's the one, that's the one, that's

471
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: the one. So eventually they went to radio with it,

472
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: and it had a really really slow start, like this

473
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: started off super super slow, but it picked up a

474
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: little bit more. I went on tour, I went to jail,

475
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: still have started winning a couple of things just made

476
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: you know my name. I think at the time I

477
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: was one of the most google names like in the world,

478
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: just uh, off of the uniqueness and you know, just

479
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: me smoking weed and doing what the funk I wanted

480
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: to do. So all of that combined boom Black and

481
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: Yellow Steelers. I think they went to Super Bowl like

482
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: the same week that the ship went number one, So

483
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: it was crazy. It was like, like I said, it

484
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: all came from above. It was a blessing, but it

485
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: was definitely like intended to be. You know, my my

486
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: moment from the beginning. Rolling Papers debuts two thousand eleven

487
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: is the tenure anniversary. What's what stand out from that

488
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: and what are some of your favorite songs on that album? Um,

489
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: my favorite songs on there, like the race on my

490
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: level started show ship. We had had, we had, we had,

491
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: uh the deluxe come out, and there's a Nipsey verse

492
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: on there that I remember getting from him. He was

493
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: at my house and he recorded that. That was just

494
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: a special album. It was a fun time. Black and

495
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: Yellow was on that album. Like I was saying, I

496
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: was coming off of the mixtape stage, So everything that

497
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: I was doing I had intentions on. You know, it's

498
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: sticking and it lasting for a minute. And the fact that, uh,

499
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: the album came out ten years ago and people are

500
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, still talking about how classic it is and

501
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: what it means to them and how it changed them.

502
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: Um that that that makes me happy for for what

503
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: I did with that project. You spoke on nip Um.

504
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: I know you guys had a unique friendship. He was

505
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: an instrument in your life. Very welcoming you guys. Really

506
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: Vibe talked to us about your relationship with him. Yeah,

507
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: Nip was my partner. Um, that's my homie, man, Like,

508
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: you don't get too many friends like in the industry,

509
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: and know when when you say it like that, that's home.

510
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: When you say like, that's exactly, exactly, exactly currency, that's

511
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: one of my partners. So you got a couple of

512
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: people who you feel that type of way about. And

513
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: we came up together. We were on the same double

514
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: x cell because the legendary cover. Yeah, that Tampa TA

515
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,239
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, yeah, funk I forget. There

516
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: was a lot of niggas on there though. Juice Man

517
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: was on that cover. Yeah yeah, Juice Man was on there.

518
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Jay Rock was on there. It was a lot of

519
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: niggas on that cover. But yeah, it was cool. That

520
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: was the time we was all coming up. We were hustling,

521
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: we were couch surfing, we were sleeping on couches. Some

522
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: of us had Louis, some of us had not so Louis.

523
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: So it was cool, man, It was fun, man, it

524
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: was It was a good time to be a young rapper.

525
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, And even just coming up and seeing

526
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: his transition. You know, Uh, it's funked up. He was

527
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: taking away from us, but he was he was definitely

528
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: about everything that he's that he was about. I got

529
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: a chance and you know, meet him in like oh nine,

530
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: and like you said, if you've seen him and really

531
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: seen him, you see his involvement in talking about every

532
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: level of that, but always getting to that next level quickly.

533
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: Because it was a smart dude. Yeah yeah, second album

534
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: and f C December twelve with a top single work

535
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: Hard Play Hard. Was then the pressure to file up

536
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: a debut. What's up with something bad after that? I

537
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: don't I didn't feel like there was any pressure for me. Uh.

538
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: I think the label Private fails some pressure and something

539
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: like that. But I just I just like to create.

540
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: And when I made that album, I was in a

541
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: really good creative space. I was listening to a lot

542
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: of like old school like Marvin Gaye ship, and I

543
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: just wanted to make something that uh musically just stood

544
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: out to me and of course, like I wanted my

545
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: fans to get it too, but I was just trying

546
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: to impress myself. So it was really based off of

547
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: my life and where I was that and my experiences

548
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: and the thing I was going through, and yeah, I

549
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: felt like I got it across. And then like later

550
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: on in life, it was as crazy to hear people

551
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: like go through some of those same experiences and be like, oh,

552
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: I feel I just now figured out what you were

553
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: talking about. Just that, Oh and I f c ship

554
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: right here. I'll be like, yeah, yeah, for sure. You yeah,

555
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: tell us where Taylor Gang came from, the origin of that.

556
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: You really made that kind of your thing. So Taylor

557
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: Gang was just the It just started off as the homies.

558
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm the youngest side of everybody, so I couldn't even

559
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: get in the club at certain points, and they were

560
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: the ones really in the club, popping bottles and you know,

561
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: paying the DJs to pay the reck, play the records,

562
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: grabbing the mic and going crazy and so that's what

563
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: I seen coming up, and that's just what I wanted

564
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: to do. So as soon as I was old enough nineteen,

565
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: I had a chain and I was in the club

566
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: with my niggas and he was going crazy. So it

567
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: was just really about the party life and in the

568
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: in the in the in the excitement and making that music.

569
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: And we were all from the same neighborhood, so it

570
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: was like everything we did was the same. We all

571
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: talked the same, we've dressed the same, and when we

572
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: walked into the room, it was just like, you know,

573
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: you knew what it was. So we just took that

574
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: attitude on the road and as it spread, it just

575
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: became more of a lifestyle of just doing whatever you

576
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: want to do. And we met more and more tailors nationwide,

577
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: whether it be Chicago, Detroit, uh Louisiana, Atlanta, uh l A, Toronto,

578
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, there's tailors everywhere, So

579
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: it just even out of the country, Brazil, in the UK, everywhere. Um,

580
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: it just became a lifestyle in the in the in

581
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: the in a, in a, in a brand. I thought.

582
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: I thought it meant the way y'all rode y'all joined

583
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: because I heard you in a couple of what I'm saying,

584
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: smoking tailor the old school time to Bay Area. Yeah,

585
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: and mcmas just say that smoking on the Taylor. Yeah,

586
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: when did you When did you fall in love with

587
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: the plant? I started smoking weed early. I usually don't

588
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: say say what age because I don't want to inspire

589
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: anybody to you know when I started. Yeah, I started

590
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: smoking really young. But on an everyday basis though consistently

591
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: for real. Damn, that's every day. Yeah, that's crazy. I

592
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: don't see I don't see my mom my smoking age.

593
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: But it was young, and I think you know it

594
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: was crazy because I was in the studio, Like I

595
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: used to sell weed. I used selling like white kids

596
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: and ship like that. So that's how I learned about it.

597
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: But I was in the studio and Nigger told me,

598
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: was like, bro, like you're hard, like you could wrap

599
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 1: your ass off. But as soon as you started smoking

600
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: weed and wrapping, he was like, you're gonna go to

601
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: the top. I was like, man, I don't need that ship, bro,

602
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm a sooner. I started smoking weed and rapid. That's

603
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: when it happened, like my association with the weed and

604
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: the music. I heard ship that I never heard before,

605
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: and I started like years old. Yeah, it was like

606
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: the under under the real music, you know what I mean.

607
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't just a surface level thing anymore. And

608
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: that's what made me really falling and fall in love

609
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: with weed is the relationship with music that that that

610
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: it goes together. You talked about kind of evolution. You

611
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: were someone I remember and we were talking about this before,

612
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: but you convinced. Remember me, you were snooper doing something somewhere,

613
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: but you were like, you guys gotta smoke paper. You

614
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: guys paper. We're both smoking swishes. At that time. I

615
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: was twenty years in on swishes because I just joints

616
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: never really worked, but you kept pushing on it. So

617
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: I tried it, and bro haven't went back since I

618
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: was probably like six years ago, proud because I didn't

619
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: really proud of you know, I mean, but you talk

620
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: about your evolution of kind of with the plant, how

621
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of started as you selling it and then

622
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: the homie telling you and it took you to other place,

623
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: but it's really come a real, real part of your

624
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: life now. Yeah. Yeah, I think we all started smoking

625
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: weed like relatively the same. It's just with the homies.

626
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: Like you probably got a parent or something like that

627
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: who smokes weeds. So you smelt it in the house before,

628
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: and it was really fucking bad back in the day,

629
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Like that ship you start to hide, like for real,

630
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: you couldn't just smoke weed out in the open. And

631
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: that's where I come from. Where it where it's like

632
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: buy a little sack and split it with the homies.

633
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: And as time went on, um, we smoke a lot

634
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: of weed in Pittsburgh, so just having like a little

635
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: a for a quarter wasn't enough. You have to have

636
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: a zip, like, so we're burning ounces like you gotta zip,

637
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: you gotta zip, I gotta zip. That's the session right there.

638
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: We're all going and we're smoking at all, like nobody's

639
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: saving anything exactly. So as time goes on, we started,

640
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, branching out, going different places and finding better

641
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: fucking weed. Me. I didn't like blunts like. I didn't

642
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: like the taste of them, I didn't like how they

643
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: made my clothes smell. I didn't like how they made

644
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: me feel in the morning. And I was like, if

645
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: I could just smoke weed and not blunts, like that

646
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: would be awesome. And then that's when I bumped in

647
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: the spin and he was on his papers, like and

648
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: and my mom had papers. But I didn't associate it

649
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: with you know niggas, like we will never see the

650
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: homie smoking papers. But when I got with him, he

651
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: was like, yo, bro, I hate months as well. Let's

652
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: just smoke papers. Let's come up with our own rules,

653
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: not be like anybody else, and you know, just smoke healthy,

654
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 1: like just smoke clean. And that was the thing. Like

655
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: we documented it, We put it out there. We went

656
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: around and spread the good word to everybody else and eventually, uh,

657
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, possible cleaned up. Yeah, in the last ten years,

658
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: weed is cleaned up. The idea of weed is cleaned up.

659
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: A lot of different people who weren't into it before

660
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: into it. Now. It's it's an essential business. Uh, people

661
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: aren't as scared of it. It's recreational in a lot

662
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: of different places. And yeah, I think that's what the

663
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: main thing is. People's thoughts about we just have to change. Yeah,

664
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: and when you're just thinking about like niggas rolling around

665
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: smoking blunts, you know what I mean, it's not that inviting.

666
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: But you know, you're having little fucking tea parties and

667
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: sucking edibles and fucking gummies and shit, It's it's all good. Now.

668
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: Everybody get high. Everybody want to get high. There's medical

669
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: research backing it up. Now, that's why I think it's

670
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: more acceptable. Um, but Tucky, you've turned your passion into

671
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: a business. Talk to us about Khalifa cushion and all

672
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: the stuff you're doing in the cannabis space. Yeah, that's

673
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: basically what it is is, uh, just cleaning, cleaning up

674
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: the look of it, um, the packaging. Uh. People love

675
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: pre roles, people love edibles, people love lotions and and tinctures.

676
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: And it's just there's there's way more uses for herb

677
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: as a plant than just the way we like to

678
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: just put fire to fath bombs all that time, you

679
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's using it as an

680
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: ingredient and you know, spreading it all across the board

681
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: as opposed to just you know, bagging it up and

682
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: selling it. Right. Yeah, now, talk to me about something

683
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: because we've all been consumed for all fathers as well.

684
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Have you had that conversation with your son yet about

685
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: cannabis and when he should or can or anything like that.

686
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: I try not to talk to him about when he can,

687
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: because that's a I don't know, that's it's hard to

688
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: call it, you know what I mean. But we definitely

689
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: talk about that ship just so he knows and he's

690
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: fully aware. And I think it's important that you educate

691
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: the kids early on it, because our education on it

692
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: early was, YO, it's bad. It's gonna make you a

693
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: fucking idiot. You're gonna not be successful. Like, let's switch

694
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: that around, like it's medicinal. You don't even have to

695
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: smoke it. You can grow it. Uh you know what

696
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's all different types of alternatives where you

697
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: can benefit off of it, where you don't just have

698
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: to just block it out of their life like it

699
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: don't exist. So that's my main goal with him, is

700
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: to just you know, be realistic about it. Yes see,

701
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: because he's what eight, Yeah, he's eight. So I remember

702
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: when the twins were nine. They remember I put them

703
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: to bed one time and then they looked out the

704
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: window and saw me smoking. So the next day that

705
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: came down. They're like, Daddy smoked cigarettes. And I'm like, damn,

706
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: do I tell him the truth and not? And I'm

707
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: just like no, So I went for I'm like no,

708
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: it's a joint, and they're like withstand. I'm just like,

709
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: you know, Daddy doesn't really drink and I can't take

710
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: pain killers, but my knees and my back are always

711
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: sore from basketball. So when I smoked the joint, it

712
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: takes all the pain away and I can sleep. Like

713
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: then Carter, one of the twins, is like, well, Dad,

714
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: you know I sprained my ankle. When can I speak?

715
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: It was an instant like fireback, where can I I'm like, oh,

716
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: you gotta be older than thirties, Like, oh yeah, thirties,

717
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: I can wait till thirty. But like I said to me,

718
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: and I read it rich, you said to me, I

719
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: would rather educate them because you never know what their

720
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: friends are telling them, what they're seeing on the internet,

721
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: or any of the stigmas they made me listening to.

722
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: So I like to have a real even if it's

723
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: maybe too early, but just at least if you visit

724
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: the conversation, you know next time you come back around,

725
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be something he's ready to talk about. Absolutely,

726
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: that's important. I think that's important as parents. You collaborated

727
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 1: with Tyler, Yawe and Gonna on the song All of Smoke.

728
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people thought that wanted it to be

729
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: our theme song and thought it was our thing. So

730
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: on how that came together, I should do that. You're

731
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: gonna do a sign off on the way I got you? Yeah,

732
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: that was Tyler's idea. Tyler's like, uh, he's up and

733
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: coming artist. I always funk with, like the young homies

734
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: on their way up. That's been a main goal and

735
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: like point of mind is just always you know, reach

736
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: out and I do versus for free. I don't even

737
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: charge my fucker's Yeah. So it's like when you get

738
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: your number one record running back, but now it's it's

739
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: the little homies. And not to call him a little

740
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: homie like that, but that's good. Yeah, that's the young

741
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: homie and we got to use our platform to help

742
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: each other out. So the same way he's being a

743
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: new artist and using his platform and keep me relevant.

744
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: It's like me as an established artist or a goat

745
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: or what people you know consider it. It's like that.

746
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: It's like an even transaction in my opinion. You know

747
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: who does that well is up Yes, Snoop for sure.

748
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: Good And that's why part of his longevity is if

749
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: being able to stay relevant with the young people. It's

750
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: important to keep your ear to the ground. Um, we

751
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: talked about this when you were outside. Just the excitement

752
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: of kind of getting back to life on the road

753
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: and performing again, and you're acting and doing also to

754
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: talk to us, particularly about getting back on the road

755
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: and doing music. Yo, I'm actually like fucking scared as fuck.

756
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Like I'm anxious. I'm nervous. It's weird, um,

757
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: because I feel like that hustle is it's like muscle

758
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: memory and you gotta be in it to to feel

759
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: it and know what it's like. But just on the

760
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: outside looking in, you know exactly what you're getting yourself into.

761
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: You know you're about to like have fucked up flights,

762
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: like shitty food, be sleeping crazy. I mean, it's not

763
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: that bad for me, but I've got used to being comfortable,

764
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So anything outside of that

765
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: comfort zone, it's like it's like a red flag a

766
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: little bit, you know what I mean. But I know

767
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: when I get into it, this is what I made for,

768
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: this is what I do. So I'm definitely, you know,

769
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: ready to do it. But am I excited about it?

770
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a lot of work. And congratulations

771
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: for your residency and Vegas talked to us about that.

772
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um, I appreciate that. Yo. Dre's they always

773
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: look out. I do Dre's in Vegas and I do

774
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: the White Club in Dubai, and um they let me DJ.

775
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: I got a DJ. Name is DJ Daddy Cat. I've

776
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: been doing that for like three Yeah, I've been doing

777
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: that for five five years now, five years in the

778
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: game like that. Yeah, yeah, so I performed the night

779
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: before and then I DJ the next night. Yeah, double

780
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: double up. Yeah Yeah. What's one thing you missed about

781
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: performing in front of the crowds on the road, sold

782
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: out venues, Just the real interaction You get to feel it,

783
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: You get to see people, uh just scream and their

784
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: eyes light up. And performing new music. I love to

785
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: do that as well. I haven't gotten the opportunity to

786
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: perform anything unreleased or anything new and just get that

787
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: that that party, you know what I mean, Like that's

788
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: how I feel my uh my stage performance is it's

789
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: not only like songs that you already know, but it's

790
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: an experience. So you might hear some ship. I might

791
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: throw some ship on and just start freestyling. I might

792
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: make up a chance based off of this side of

793
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: the crowd, like yeah, it's just going off of everybody's

794
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: just dude, might punch somebody in the fucking head over

795
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: that ship hypes you up when you're on stage, like

796
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: you just love that ship. I involved in you and

797
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: selecting the acts that travel with you on tour. Shit,

798
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: we do everything and will we like Yeah, we like

799
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: Pinky and Brain. We we do it based off of

800
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: ticket sales of course, as we're on Live Nation. So

801
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: being a company man, you know, I try to do

802
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: what's best for everybody, for everybody, and they know that

803
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: they can come to me. Like I said, it's it's

804
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: an experience. It's not all about just with Khalifa getting

805
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: out there and doing his thing. Is experiencing a party.

806
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: It's hearing some new music. It's seeing somebody that you

807
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: might have fucking not have seen in a long ass

808
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: time in this type of you know what I mean. Uh,

809
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: there's different ways to mix and mingle, and a lot

810
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: of superstars have come off of our tours. I mean

811
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: I could name countless motherfucker's who started out performing in

812
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: the daytime when the fucking mom wasn't even and now

813
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: they have their own, you know, sold out arena tours.

814
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: You did what I'm saying, And to me, that's a

815
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: big point of it as well, is to just put

816
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: everybody on and extend everybody's career and just make this

817
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: whole thing, you know what I mean, a huge lifetime

818
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: motherfucking party. Talking about tour lives, because there one then

819
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: you event Arena. You remember that, you just felt like

820
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: it was incredible, Like life can't be this good. It

821
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: was the the Championship like right before the super Bowl,

822
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: uh in Picksburgh, and I got to perform at that

823
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: ship and they flew me private, like from one of

824
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: my shows. So I had a show that night and

825
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: they were like, we have to have you come performed

826
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Black and Yellow to night because it's Stiller is winning.

827
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Were going to the super Bowl in the games in Picksburg.

828
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, let's get it. So I

829
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: flew there, Chevy with me, everybody with me. It was

830
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: it was yeah, it was. It was. It was like

831
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: it was like a movie. Bro. It's like some ship

832
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 1: that you know you really wish would ever have. And yeah,

833
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: that was probably like one of my favorite moments out

834
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: of a lot. Yeah yeah, you know, like I said,

835
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: Cam's my favorite rapper like as far as like lyricism

836
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: and swag and ship like that, but Snoop is probably

837
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: the person who I modeled myself after the most. Um.

838
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: I will watch him just walk in the room and

839
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: just be like wow, like that's really that nigga, Like

840
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And to see that respect

841
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: that I do a lot of research. I watched like

842
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: a lot of documentaries and backstage stuff like that. So

843
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: I would watch him on the road and be like, man,

844
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: I just want to hype man for that nigga, or

845
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: I just want to like just beat the young homie

846
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: like back back then. It's like, Yo, I would just

847
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: like roll weed for that nigga. If I could just

848
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 1: be yeah, I would do anything. And there's I feel

849
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of people who feel like that,

850
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: but you know, to really put those intentions out there

851
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: and then to see it happen. And Snoop took me in,

852
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, under his wing immediately when I moved out

853
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: here to l A. One of the first things he

854
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: did was like, you know, get a crib around the

855
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: corner from my spot. We're gonna record at this studio.

856
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna shoot this movie. We're gonna make this album. Yeah. Man,

857
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: it was like damn, Like instantly, it wasn't like, Yo,

858
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna get high and eat junk food all day.

859
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, this it's time to It's time

860
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: to make a moment out of this. So that's why

861
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean by I modeled myself after him. Because I see,

862
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: you know, his position in the game and still how

863
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: hard he works and what he does and um yeah,

864
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: just moving forward. It was like, yo, I'm on tour

865
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: with this nick. I get to share the stage with

866
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: him every night, like he goes and then yeah, I

867
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: was about to say, he goes, I go, I go,

868
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: he go, and like the crowd's partying and of course

869
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: I know his motherfucking words because I'm a fan like

870
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: everybody anything, and like we'll get up there and sing

871
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: that ship with all of their hearts. So that was

872
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: like the most like gratifying, like you ever do another

873
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: macndevon being that, Yeah, sure we're gonna do we we've

874
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: been writing it for years. We just going on. I

875
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: got ship going on, so you know, we just gotta

876
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: get in the room and really make that ship happen.

877
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: But I executive produced a whole album for him that

878
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna put out. Of course we're gonna do the

879
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: soundtrack for mcndevon too, and uh yeah, y'all in the movie,

880
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: tell me how instrumental in your life he was though,

881
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: So it sounds like he talked to your grind, you model,

882
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, someone you monitor your game after but how

883
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: instrumental was it? Um you're saying that? Why? Like how

884
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: just explained to to to everyone how important he was

885
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: in your journey uh through the space. Oh so, Snoop

886
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: is fucking rare, especially in the rap game for the

887
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: simple fact that there's nobody currently who can say that

888
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: they have their second coming of them who's like successful

889
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: killing it went on tour with everybody kind of competes

890
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: or hides the keys to the game and doesn't really

891
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: show the homies like what was really good. But Snoop

892
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: put me onto plays like he'll be meeting with the

893
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: dude from Raising Kanes and be like, you know who

894
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: y'all need to get in business with Wins And he'll

895
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: call me FaceTime me yo, Wins, I'm sitting here with

896
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: the nigga from Raising Canes right now. That's how we are, Bro.

897
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Bro, Like, that's that's real. As a lot

898
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: of people in this business won't do that. And to

899
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: have a big homie who's not only a legend but

900
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: isn't scared to put you up on game and bring

901
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: you up, you know, none of that all positive reinforcement

902
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: and we chop it up, bro, Like we just you've

903
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: been to the compound. We just showed up the compound.

904
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: We smoke. If you need to get away from the

905
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: house or whatever it is, just go kick it. It's

906
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: a vibe. So yeah, he's been very instrumental in in

907
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: in uh just my sanity in life not gonna. He

908
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: had been through everything. I mean, he's been a bit,

909
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: you know. I mean for me to be such a

910
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: big fan, that mean to me U C l A

911
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: and us become friends. You know, when you really look

912
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: up to someone and getting this space, it's just like

913
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: you have such a long journey, but just like damn,

914
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: that's Snoop and like we're doing charity football games together

915
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: and that knows my kids and do what. It's just

916
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: like you kind of have to pinch yourself sometimes because

917
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: it is just so cool and welcome and and the

918
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: real how real O G should be? So I do

919
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: this thing. We perform at amphitheaters, and in any amphitheater,

920
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: there's like there's the v I P. That's the seats,

921
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: there's the like the pit like that's the most, and

922
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: then there's the lawn in the back that's like the

923
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: cheaper's eas um the most people are actually in the

924
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: lawn though, right, But if you're ever in the lawn

925
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: and you watch the show, you either got to look

926
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: up at the screen the whole time. But yeah, you

927
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: just gotta look at the screen all time because the

928
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 1: actual person the performers, like this fucking big you can't

929
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: fucking see him. And I was always in the lawn

930
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: when I was, you know, attending a concert, So this

931
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: was I did that. I came up and being on stages, Like,

932
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: what if we put another stage back there by the

933
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: lawn and I could run from up here back there

934
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: and go perform like a few songs for them and ship.

935
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: So that's what I usually do during my tour. So

936
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: I'm up on stage. Halfway through, we'll black it out,

937
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: put some ship on the screen and I'll run over

938
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: and then they'll hit the lights and the boom. I'm right,

939
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm in the lawn, Yeah, and they're going crazy. I'm

940
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: doing this ship with Snoop and he's like, Yo, what

941
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: the fuck? He's like, first of all, I've never done

942
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: no ship like this, and my motherfucking life. Second of all,

943
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: we got about a minute, less than a minute to

944
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: get all the way up there. I'm trying to run

945
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: up here and he's like, bro, Like, he's like, I'm

946
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: a little bit older than you. Fail, but he sucked

947
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: it up and we did it and we killed it.

948
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: What's the one piece of the best piece of advice

949
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: he ever gave you. The best piece of advice he

950
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: ever gave me was probably just to be myself. Keep

951
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: doing me. And he's like, you know you're gonna be

952
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: around and he refers to himself as Snoop dog He's like,

953
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna chill around Snoop Dogg. But don't be like

954
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg. They could be ways and they gotta love

955
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: because you ways your motherfucking rock star. You work hard,

956
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: you do this, you do that. You funk with this aldience,

957
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: you funk with that on it And he's like, always

958
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: keep that, never change and never give it up. We

959
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: missed this when we were talking earlier because we transition.

960
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: But where were you at and how did you find

961
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: out about the Nipsey passing. I was at home when

962
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: Nipsey passed, and I found out because I lived with

963
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: people from the neighborhood. O g s from the neighborhood.

964
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: So as soon as it happened, phones was ringing and um, yeah,

965
00:49:54,440 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: man sucked up. We spoke on DMX earlier. He's someone

966
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: you patterned uh your music after. How important was the

967
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: way he came and spit uh to you? Yeah? DMX

968
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: to me was like he was just so passionate about

969
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: his music. He was raw, his flow was infectious, his

970
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: b selection was crazy. Yeah. In person, he's such a

971
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: good dude. I have family from New York, and he

972
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: reminds me of my my real family, like just outgoing,

973
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: just a you know what I mean. It's a great

974
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: spirit of great dude. And when I was younger, you remember,

975
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: I told you I started listening to rap, like you know,

976
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: in like second third grade, well like hardcore rap second

977
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: third grade with my uncles and ship. So I had

978
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: d m x's first album. But then I live with

979
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: my mom when I was in Pittsburgh. But then I

980
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: went to live with my dad in Japan and he

981
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: actually like found my whole CD collection and was like,

982
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: what the funk is this? Like why are you a

983
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: kid sitting into this? He just took all my ship

984
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: and like I thought he threw it away, but he

985
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: took all my ship and he was listening to it

986
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: and some of it he funked with, and some of

987
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: it he didn't, But he really fused with d m X.

988
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: And he sat down and told me, like as a kid,

989
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: I remember vividly, he was like, Yo, all that other

990
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: ship you was listening to his trash, but I'll allow

991
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: you to listen to this one because he's saying this.

992
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: He's talking about this and it actually means something, so like,

993
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: not only did you know he connected with my pop

994
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: and like I was able to, you know, enjoy his

995
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: music as a kid because of his realness and his rawness. Yeah,

996
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: I had a crazy story about DMX. Um. I'm a

997
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: sick DMX fan. I got a tattoo when he say

998
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: my life ain't long. I thank god my last breath

999
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: of my life ain't wrong. And I ain't never met

1000
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: him two weeks before he died. I bumped into him

1001
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: in the ice box Jewelry two weeks before he died,

1002
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: and it was just crazy that I got a chance

1003
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: to meet him before. It was crazy before he passed

1004
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: because I felt like he had touched a lot of

1005
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: people right before he left. There's a lot of people

1006
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: who got to see him in his last couple of

1007
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: moments and he was happy. Like when I seen him,

1008
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: he was in great spirits. We listened to music. We

1009
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: was with Swiss and we was that we was at

1010
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: Snoops compound and we just chopped it up. It was

1011
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: just genuine, fucking just real game, you know what I mean. Yeah.

1012
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: I remember giving them a lot of weed in Atlanta.

1013
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: In Atlanta one time too, just rolling joints m back

1014
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: to back and sending them to the dressing room. Yeah. Yeah,

1015
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: if he were smoking Hella back then. So your versatility, uh,

1016
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: doesn't limit you from doing other things outside of music.

1017
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: You're in the acting space now, how did you initially

1018
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: get into acting and and and how much are you

1019
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: enjoying it? I first started acting with Snoop and um,

1020
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: I would say, like my my introduction to the game

1021
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: was kind of theatrical with my day to days and

1022
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: just everybody seeing behind the scenes and me being more

1023
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: of a personality as well as a musician. So the

1024
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: transition to you know, make a actual movies, um, it

1025
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: was kind of natural and just fun and it's it's

1026
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: all an experiment to me, is to just see how

1027
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: far I could take this ship and what I can

1028
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: actually do growth. Yeah yeah, yeah, for real, Like, I'm

1029
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: inspired by a lot of different movies and just people's

1030
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: moments that do ship. So it's like, you can't be scared,

1031
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: like you said, just put yourself in your in that box.

1032
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: You have to just go with the freaking flow and

1033
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: use the tools that you have. And you know, one

1034
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: of those tools is my personality, my fucking ability to

1035
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: remember ship and just being cool on screen, you know

1036
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I want to utilize that. I

1037
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: want to have fun and I want to make other

1038
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: people happy, and I know that them seeing me on

1039
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: screen doing different roles and just you know what I mean,

1040
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: just just fucking doing whatever I think. I know that's

1041
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna be good for everybody. I also have the voiceover

1042
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: things that I do as well. I love voice acting

1043
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: too because it just gives me the opportunity to be

1044
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: like whatever the funk I want to be. Right. Yeah,

1045
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: so that's we're trying to do some animated cartoon stuff

1046
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: between me and him. Yeah, you gotta do it, man,

1047
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: and we would do our own voices. Yeah, you spoken

1048
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: Duncingville earlier, talk to us about Dickinson and what parts

1049
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: you playing on that show. Yeah, well, let's go back

1050
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: to Duncanville because Duncanville is on Fox, So yeah, Dickinson

1051
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: is on Apple Plus or Apple TV, which is cool.

1052
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: I like Apple but Foxes, but Dickinson is. Um, we're

1053
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: in the I think the second season just dropped and

1054
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: we're about to start shooting the third season, and we

1055
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: had touched on it earlier. They came up with a character,

1056
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: so it's about Emily Dickinson. She's a poet and she

1057
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: was obsessed with death at the time, and a lot

1058
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: of her poetry was really dark and just fucking cynical. So, um,

1059
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: this particular show, it's not really a comedy, but it's

1060
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: crazy how to flip it because it's set back in

1061
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: that time, but they use a lot of current ship

1062
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: like music and just jokes and just ship that people

1063
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: would resonate with right now, but they do it with

1064
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: the story for back then. So in the story, she's

1065
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: infatuated with death, and they made death and actual person

1066
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: and that's me. It's like a smooth I get to

1067
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: smoke weed, I ride around in the cherry and I

1068
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: got ghost horses and you know, I'm playing fucking you

1069
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: know Marvin Gaye or some some some low rider music

1070
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: or whatever at the time, and it's really just a

1071
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: playoff of who I am just back in that time.

1072
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: It's like a smooth you know, uh, fucking male interest

1073
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: to her. And it's cool, it's fun. I get paid

1074
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: for it. I get to you know, fucking excite people

1075
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: as death. It's really interesting to see how see that's

1076
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: my nerd mind working. Like I go there and they

1077
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: think I'm just acting, but I'm looking at the cameras

1078
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: and how they set up scenes and how you fucking

1079
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: actually shoot a show. I'm like, all right, so this

1080
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: is the show for Apple. I'm gonna take all the

1081
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: notes from here and I'm gonna bring that back in

1082
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: this I'm gonna start shooting my show. Hell yeah, so

1083
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: I'll be I'm happy to be in the room as

1084
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,479
Speaker 1: far as that goes. To talk to us about Duncanville. Yeah,

1085
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 1: Donald Fox, that's that real TV right there. Yeah, Yeah,

1086
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: that's it. It's um it's it's kind of a kid show,

1087
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: but it's more mature. That's like a family guy type

1088
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 1: of situation. And that's another one where I'm just bringing

1089
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: the coolness to the show. Good to be you exactly,

1090
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: it's important Yea. The fighting Lee Yeah, PFL. Talk to

1091
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: us about that and how you kind of got in

1092
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: because I kind of followed your journey, like I've been

1093
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 1: a fan and we got to meet a while ago.

1094
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: But you came in Frere and then you started getting

1095
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: in training yourself and eat running in your mind right,

1096
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: look like you gained some muscles. Like, talk to us

1097
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: how your fascination in your own kind of health and

1098
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: wellness led you to the Yeah. So I was never

1099
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: a real like a professional athlete, Like I never worked

1100
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: out or anything like that. I play ball in the

1101
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: hood like anybody else, But I never you know, had

1102
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: a regiment eating right, working out, sleeping, doing recovery, this,

1103
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: that and the other thing. Yeah, exactly, that's real athletes

1104
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: ship and I respect professional athletes because it takes so

1105
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: much to discipline yourself and live your life, you know

1106
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. Exactly, it's a it's a really really

1107
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: crazy balance and to not get injured or to you

1108
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just to be in the right

1109
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: mind state. Um, it's a lot. And it's different than

1110
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: music because when you're being creative, you get to just

1111
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: wake up and smoke weed and take a shot and

1112
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, smack a chick. On the ass and make

1113
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: a song about it. Bro Like nobody cares like it's

1114
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: like that's acceptable behavior when you're a rapper, but yeah,

1115
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: when you're a professional athlete, you have to like really,

1116
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, walk walk that line exactly.

1117
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: So I have a lot of respect for it. And

1118
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: in the past few years of my life, UM, training

1119
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: martial arts and mixed martial arts and um, you know,

1120
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: just learning about the science of the body and things

1121
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: like that. It's definitely taking a high priority and it's

1122
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: opened up a lot of business opportunities as well. Um,

1123
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: they just started. We just started to fight. Well not we,

1124
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: but there's a league called the PFL, the Professional Fighting League,

1125
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: and it's basically an alternative to the UFC where it

1126
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: gives UM each fighter a chance to earn points throughout

1127
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: the season, and then you have the playoffs and then

1128
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: you have the championship and that's who gets the belt,

1129
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: and you also get to fight for a million dollars.

1130
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: So it's not really based off of a popularity contest.

1131
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: It's really actual stats. And we have fighters who are

1132
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: on the come up, who are gonna become superstars, and

1133
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: then we have fighters who have actually been in the

1134
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: game for a little bit and maybe didn't reach that point.

1135
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: But it's like, yo, I'm trying to you know what

1136
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to compete, I want to make

1137
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: some money, and I want to have a shot at

1138
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: still you know, being that nigger so or that that

1139
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: that chick. So you know, it's good for Everybody's good

1140
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: for the fans and for me, um, you know, my

1141
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: dedication to health and fitness and kind of just let

1142
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: me down that journey. Um. I linked up with Jay

1143
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: Glazer Unbreakable and started training with Ernie Uh, Ernie Rays,

1144
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: who's like a legend in the game, and a lot

1145
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: of other you know, freaking champions who kind of just

1146
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: got me sharp and to the point where I'm able

1147
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: to even just look good on camera. But you know,

1148
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: other than actually looking good on camera, I could actually

1149
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: bang too. But that's not really for you know, I mean,

1150
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: that's just for sport, and that's just too you know,

1151
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: you practice the technique enough you need to actually be

1152
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: able to use it. But you know, I've worked a

1153
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: long time to be able to, you know, be confident

1154
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: in both of those things. So Kevin Hard is a

1155
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: part of that as well. Right, So how how is it,

1156
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: uh what kind of situate? But how is he a

1157
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: part of it? How are you guys? It's essentially the

1158
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: same thing. Um. I'm more like a creative director where

1159
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: you're just gonna see me just like hyping it up,

1160
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Musical aspect, music, Yeah, entertainment.

1161
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of in there and do what you're good

1162
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: at exactly exactly, like just hyping it up and whatever

1163
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: they whatever they really need. I'm that guy. And Kevin

1164
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: is more uh financial and and also his platform is

1165
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: different than mine, so it's just gonna take it to

1166
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If he's in a movie

1167
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: and they have a mixed martial arts scene instead of

1168
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: having whatever company on the floor, it's gonna be pfl

1169
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Ship like that just easy,

1170
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: not not real, nothing too crazy, but we all do

1171
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: our part to lift the company up. What's thoughts on

1172
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: Mayweather Paul? I like it. I like the Mayweather Paul ship.

1173
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: I like the I like the whole celebrity celebrity boxing thing. Um.

1174
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: I think they're getting it together. They're making it events

1175
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: better for the fans. I think the fights are going

1176
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: to get better and better of course Mayweather is not

1177
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: gonna get in there and try to beat the ship

1178
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: out of Logan Paul and like, of course, I think

1179
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: all that. I think you guys are brainwashed and the

1180
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: hype has been working on you. But good job, bro,

1181
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: that's all hype. It's a hat. Yeah, but foy, you've

1182
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: never seen Floyd with hair. Yeah, Floyd's been working on

1183
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: his hair. Was kind of hiss had like some kicked

1184
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: up carpet. Jay Paul is a genius. He could say,

1185
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: you could purposefully say, bro, grow your hair out. Look

1186
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: crazy like we're about to go viral fail. Let's do this.

1187
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: Let me show you how to do this. You've done

1188
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: you've done this before. I'm gonna show you how to

1189
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: do this now this new game. And nobody's gonna get up.

1190
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: That's the cold park, because ain't nobody Finn get hurt.

1191
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: He caught it, he caught it left. He caught a

1192
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: black eye though it was just it was all did

1193
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: you see actual footage of the black ir did you

1194
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: just see a scruffy eye. Well, well, we got a

1195
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: homeboard here who works here, who real cool with both

1196
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: of them, and he said, he said, he got sucked up.

1197
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

1198
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: You don't want to hear it. He ain't get in

1199
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: your pockets, man, you know your motherfucking pockets because that's

1200
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: what they want. Yeah, exactly, that's exactly. That's exactly what

1201
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: that's the game. Buy into it. Yeah, I dig it.

1202
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: But we're gonna be out there, right, we're there of course. Yeah,

1203
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: it's in Miami fighting. Yeah, come with us? When is it?

1204
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: What's the date we're bringing WIRs with us? Yeah? I

1205
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: could leave Vegas and I could go down there. You

1206
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: gotta go. Wow, not even to the year here. It's

1207
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: been a while. I've been a good time ago. Yeah,

1208
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: why not? UM see you again? Eleven times platinum. Uh

1209
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: A song that went unfortunately right along with with with

1210
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: it with the tragic loss of Kobe Bryant. Um, talk

1211
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: to us about that song, how it came about. Obviously

1212
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: it had a meaning too with um my fregeringness name

1213
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: Paul Paul Walker rested peace Paul Walker. But talk to

1214
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: us about how important that song is in just the

1215
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: process of coming up with it. That song, UM, for sure,

1216
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: biggest song of my career. UM, one of your moments

1217
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: you're talking about Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And it just

1218
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: uh like being in the airport in Korea and here

1219
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: motherfucker's singing, you know, the hook and the verse and

1220
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: ship like that. They don't even speak English, you know

1221
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that that type of ship is crazy.

1222
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: You you can think that your song is gonna do that,

1223
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: but for it to actually happen, it's just like all right, wow.

1224
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: And the process for making it was was cold, because, um,

1225
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: they came to me, the people from Fast and Furious

1226
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: and the Mourner in Atlantic. Uh, they came to me

1227
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: and they were like, you know, we're trying to put

1228
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: this song together, and your verses is going to be

1229
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: one of probably like eight you know what I mean.

1230
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: They're like, we want to make this like a compilation song.

1231
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: And Charlie's hook was just supposed to be just like this,

1232
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: like the reference. They were like, we're gonna get this

1233
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: artist on the hook, We're gonna get this verse from

1234
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,479
Speaker 1: this person and that. And I was like, all right, cool.

1235
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: So I just wrote my verse and just sent it in,

1236
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, with no thought about it or whatever. I'm like,

1237
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: it's a soundtrack. It's a little bit of money, Like cool,

1238
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: And then they were like, no, we want you to

1239
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: do the whole song and I'm like, all right, cool,

1240
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: So I another verse and they're like, well, we like

1241
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: this part of this verse and we like that part

1242
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: of that verse, so can you flip this? And can

1243
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: you I'm like, oh, I know what's going on here,

1244
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: y'all turn y'all turn this to a motherfucking production. So

1245
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm like, just be available, be ready

1246
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: for every little step. If these motherfucker's tell you that

1247
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: they don't like one bar, just be available, be ready

1248
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: to change it. And it was kind of a process

1249
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: of like tweaking the song for a few months and

1250
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 1: then you know, we shot the video before we even

1251
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: released it, and along with the release and just the

1252
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: song coming out, it just took off. It did with it.

1253
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: It went crazy and the message behind it and of

1254
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: course the Paul Walker thing, and it just really really like,

1255
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I had no idea that they was

1256
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: about to go that crazy with it, but yeah, it

1257
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: did everything that all the energy that we put into it,

1258
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: it did everything that it was supposed to do. Yeah, Yeah,

1259
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: and the fans made it go crazy. It was freaking

1260
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: number one for I think fourteen weeks as I don't

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01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: know how many times platinum and it's the only rap

1262
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: video at however many billion views that it has. But

1263
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: I was the first rapper to ever get a billion

1264
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: views on YouTube as well, So it helped me make history,

1265
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of different ways. And it

1266
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: touched so many people. Talk about your tribute, UM that

1267
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: you and UM Charlie did. Yeah, man, that was big.

1268
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: I was actually in Miami the night before UM because

1269
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: it was Super Bowl weekend and the Super Bowl was

1270
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: in Miami, so it was just a fucking craze fest.

1271
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: I had a whole week book down there to just

1272
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: to be in Miami to work and you know work.

1273
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: And I was like they hit me last minute, was like, yo,

1274
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: we're doing because of course nobody can expected that ship

1275
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: to happen. And then there was the home game. It

1276
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: was like the first home game and they were like, uh,

1277
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, we want you to do it, and I'm like,

1278
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm in Miami, of course I'm gonnaucking do it. I

1279
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: don't give a funk what I gotta do, Like I'll

1280
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: jump on a jet blah blah blah. Charlie just so

1281
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: happened to be in Miami too, so we both got

1282
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: on the same jet the next day and just flew

1283
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: out and knocked it out and like that was just

1284
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: such a such an honor and such like a I

1285
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been at the crib, Like, yo, I wish

1286
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: I could do the fucking tribute for you know what

1287
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that was just a beautiful ass thing.

1288
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: It was a great opportunity and you know, he could

1289
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: couldn't ask for for better stuff like that, you know

1290
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just to hold it down and the

1291
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: kind of put people at ease about the situation. It

1292
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: was the energy Like in the arena that night, it

1293
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: was like quiet, like you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

1294
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: it was like it was like a hoop game, but

1295
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: nobody was really there though, you know what I mean.

1296
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: That's what it felt there. Yeah, it felt full, but

1297
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like nobody was there. And yeah, man,

1298
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: you ever met Cobe? You ever seen him play? Yeah?

1299
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: I never seen him play, but I got to meet

1300
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: him a couple of times. Always a cool ass dude, bro,

1301
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: Like just great energy, smiling, very welcoming. I do a

1302
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: lot of charities and things like that, and I will

1303
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: always see him at those events, things for single fathers

1304
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: and things for families and things to help out, um,

1305
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: like real ass situations like Kobe would be there and

1306
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: even like the Sucking party and like seeing I've seen

1307
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: him at like puff Daddy's house. What I'm saying, just

1308
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: kicking it. Yeah he's a cool dude. Yeah, alright. For Shure,

1309
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: you talked about fatherhood, current state of hip hop and

1310
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: and and how do you kind of touched on it,

1311
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: but with what kind of your your way of staying

1312
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,520
Speaker 1: relevant in this space as you also cross over into

1313
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: music and music and film television, film excuse um, I

1314
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: look at music like, uh, like music is always young.

1315
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: It's like a baby that never grows up. And if

1316
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: you try to mature it too much, then you'll you'll

1317
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: be like, you'll be lost in the sauce. So I

1318
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: just I enjoy everything, and enjoying and digesting are two

1319
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: totally different things, completely different. So you know everything that

1320
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: you know, it's not all being processed. But I enjoy it.

1321
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: I love it. It's fun, it's good, it's good for

1322
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: for for kids, it's good for people's families. Um, it's

1323
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: making a lot of people a lot of money. Um,

1324
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: I do want to see the young rappers be a

1325
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: lot safer. I see a lot of violence and too

1326
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: much that it's not even really about. And it's like

1327
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: we do music to get away from that ship and

1328
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: get out of that. And I'm a fond believer of

1329
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 1: as soon as you become an entertainer, and you're an entertainer,

1330
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: like that's all. Yeah, you ain't no gangster. No, I

1331
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: mean gangster is taking care of your family, making it

1332
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: home safe. That's gangster like to me and everybody else

1333
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: who've been through it but really been through it. Yeah,

1334
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: but like all that tough stuff, if you want to

1335
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: be tough, there's a place for it. Join the fight league.

1336
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: Join your league. You know what I'm saying. You think, yeah,

1337
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: you think. So. That's how I've been a very very

1338
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: very big advocate and trying to keep these youngsters safe.

1339
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: Try tell them the right thing, Try tell them to

1340
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: make the right moves, watch their surroundings, watch you there around,

1341
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: and you know, I want to see him live long

1342
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: and being the game forever man. That's what's about. So yeah,

1343
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: coming down the stretch, quick hitters, first thing to come

1344
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: into your mind. All right, give me your top five

1345
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: rappers from the East Coast and your top five rappers

1346
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: from the West Coast. Cam Cam one jay Z. We're

1347
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: talking about East Coast and let me go old school

1348
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: big Daddy came. Now let me go sleeper. Cannabis right o,

1349
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: all right, cannabis was ill and uh damn already say

1350
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: cannabis for the lyricism. Oh nas, I gotta say nas. Yeah,

1351
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: congrats on that grammy. Yeah, well that's a lot of things, man, man,

1352
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: it's just hustling. Yeah. He's behind the scenes, behind the

1353
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,919
Speaker 1: scenes ring and we just watched something he just produced

1354
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: the other day, that monster, yeah, with sap in it. Yeah,

1355
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: he's behind the scenes killing it. We got we gotta

1356
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: get see, he's a virgo. That's what we do. I'm

1357
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,839
Speaker 1: a very too. We're behind the scenes, kill it, Swiss beats,

1358
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, very good businessman, very artistic, you know what

1359
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean. Just silent killer, you know I love that?

1360
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: All right? So quick here the top five? Who else?

1361
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: West Coast? Cute? Sugar Free Yeah, yeah, snoop uh mac

1362
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: dre um, that's four. Burner yeah yeah. Burner is a

1363
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: bazillionaire do yeah. Burner is my man. Yeah, we definitely

1364
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: got to. But I gotta say too short too. I'm sorry.

1365
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 1: There's well yeah, the West Coast deserves yeah, yeah, we

1366
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 1: give them keep going. If you can have one artist

1367
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: a group dead alive to collaborate with, who would it be?

1368
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: Jay Z? Yeah, I haven't. I haven't done a song

1369
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: with Hove yet, and that that needs to happen. Hopefully,

1370
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: hope it's gonna happens. Even if it happens in ten years.

1371
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: What happened happen? You know? Five dinner guests dead or alive,

1372
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: five dinner guests O d b uh ship all of

1373
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: my own probably be they wouldn't even be here. No,

1374
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: I have dinner with odib Bob Marley. Uh oh up there,

1375
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: up there, um uh uh. I would either say Biggie

1376
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: or big Pun, but I'm gonna say big Pun because

1377
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna eat good. We're gonna eat good.

1378
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: Um uh. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see somebody who

1379
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: who's gonna put me up on some game who like

1380
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: a chop game with? Oh, Prince, Yeah, Prince would be

1381
01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: dope to invite to the party. And then Rick James

1382
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: because you're gonna bring some bitches Yeah, that's the party

1383
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: right there, Yes, sir, five songs in rotation to smoke too,

1384
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: do be Ashtray Devon to Dude. A lot of people

1385
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: don't know that Devon is one of the man the coldest.

1386
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: That's why, that's why I grew up in the area

1387
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: south by Southwest. We got super loaded, maybe some perfect

1388
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: place to run into super blow and they didn't really

1389
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: like you smoking out there either. No, hell no, that

1390
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: ship you fucking throwing, yank you out of the car.

1391
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: I've seen somebody pad. That was first time I ever

1392
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: seen somebody pass out on weed. Was at his concert, Mike.

1393
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: It was hot as hell in there, and their eyes

1394
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: just rolled in the back of their head. I was like,

1395
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: what the fuck. I've never seen it before, but it's

1396
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,879
Speaker 1: a real thing. Like I've seen it in the coffee

1397
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: shop right before you came down the waterway and man

1398
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: had to take this girl outside, flip her upside down,

1399
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: pour water all over, and it looks crazy, right, It's

1400
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: not for everybody, it's not. It's not. It's not. I'm

1401
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: never seen that. I can't come to one of my shows.

1402
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: You'll see it looks wold, yo, so uh so, do

1403
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: be ash Tray Um, Footsteps in the Dark, Asley Brothers, Um,

1404
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: Purple Hags, I Can and Friday by Busy And you know,

1405
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 1: I think, what's at three or four? That's four, that's four?

1406
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: One more uh uh uh it was. It's a Nate

1407
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: Dog song. Fuck. See Now I'm thinking about all of

1408
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: the one More Day, I'm thinking about all of the

1409
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: Nate verses, but I can't think about the song. Oh,

1410
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: I'll just do one of my songs, the cut. Yeah,

1411
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: a Whish song. There you go. Can't go wrong with that.

1412
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: One More Day by Nate Dog is a class that

1413
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: One More Day is. Yeah. A lot of niggas don't

1414
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: even know Nate's album. Bro, it's fucking crazy. See. I

1415
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: got little riders, so we ride around we Sunday alright,

1416
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: shout out r M y M writer gang Cruise Life

1417
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: already heard you've been on the Cruise Show on the

1418
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: way when you're gonna Bill George, I got my eyes,

1419
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: finally got my bronco. So I got me Oh Jay,

1420
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: I just gotta get a lot of money that nobody

1421
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: wants to take up. We just got so is it

1422
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: already ready? I've been driving it around low key. I

1423
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,560
Speaker 1: just don't want to cruise, but you got some you

1424
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: got got beat in there, all right, everything. I take

1425
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: the top off that one, bro. But that's the thing.

1426
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: That's when you bring it to the cruise to test

1427
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, you don't just test it out, you

1428
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: gotta bring into the crew back, Oh ship, I gotta

1429
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 1: fix this. Oh damn fucking thing came off the door,

1430
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It's just all right, No,

1431
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: it was a random mass day they pulled. Remember the

1432
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: day you guys pulled it. It It was it was him said, yeah,

1433
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: who else Percy, right, Pete and a couple of ranly

1434
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: chilling in My was one day in the backs, but

1435
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: I just happened to be barbecue and smoking watching TV.

1436
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 1: These motherfucker's just, you know, pull up open the gate,

1437
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: like who's out there? These motherfucker's driving a little hot

1438
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: rods in And that's when I started, Yeah, and then

1439
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: found out this motherfucker right around the corner from we're

1440
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: about to start it back up rider gang shout out

1441
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 1: r M M. One bar lyric of yours that you'd

1442
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: want to be remembered by. How fuck it might have been?

1443
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: Too deep? I can't even I can't even narrow it down, dog,

1444
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: That's that's cold, because like I got motivational bars that

1445
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: I would funk with this and I got game too.

1446
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, little nigues need to hear that maybe

1447
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: your favorite song and then see that's the thing. I'd

1448
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: be like going to let other people do that, but

1449
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: me personally, my favorite song. I got a song it's

1450
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: called I Still Remember. It was way back. It's on

1451
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: this uh mixtape I did called star Power. I was

1452
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: probably like nineteen twenty years old when I did this song.

1453
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: But that's that's my favorite jam that I did. It's

1454
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: Rolling Papers on the card Beat. I got a song

1455
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: called Rolling Papers too, but I don't know if I okay, okay,

1456
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: it's a song on Rolling Papers. It's no, it's a

1457
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 1: song on It's the Christian Orange Juice with Cardo and

1458
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of it. Are you talking about Mesmerize? Mesmerize?

1459
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: That's my favorite that's my favorite song. Yeah, Yeah, that's

1460
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: my favorite song. Yeah. See I was going to think

1461
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: about a bar from that song. But that song is

1462
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: like so much pimping, Like, yeah, that's so hard. It's

1463
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: a lot of pimping in this That's how that if

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Speaker 1: he was a fan and you can have one personal

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Speaker 1: all the smoke. Who would you want to see on

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Speaker 1: the show courtesy? So that's my partner, and that's my

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Speaker 1: partner too, yet life together. Yeah that's my boy too. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need you. Where are you at? Man? We're good.

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Speaker 1: That's a rap man. Appreciate it. Thank our guests, Whiz.

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