1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: And Martinez in Real Life podcast. What's your middle name? Gerard, 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Michael Girard, Michael, are we rolling? Yes? I mean Michael 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Girard Tyson trouble. I never want you to feel like that. Wait, 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: hold on, man, I need my crool. I need everybody 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: in the room to it up. This is like, yeah, 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: for you, we love you. You know people love you, Mike. 7 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: What's the definition of love? Um, let me think about that. Well, 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: there's many definitions of love. The way I use it 9 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: for you is that anytime I tell people that I'm 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: gonna do this thing with Michael, I'm coming to Mike's podcast, 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: people are fascinated with you and want to meet you 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: and want to be around you, and um, people get 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: excited when you're around. Yeah, I understand that's pretty interestingly 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: thinking like that. In order for me to have that, 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: I don't even know what, but that, I have to 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: be truly flawed personally, too flawed and because we're all flawed. Yeah, 17 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: but you are honest about you. You are naked about 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: your flaws. You like you let everybody see them seemingly freely. 19 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Like you seem to be very free about your whole story. 20 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: No matter what I used to think we as people 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: human beings are more transparent and we know of really yeah, 22 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: even when we don't think we are being Yeah, well, 23 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: just studying life, not even as a pupil, just what 24 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: goes on around you. You know what, how there's certain 25 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: kind of people. You know, they're fake, straight people. There's 26 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: people that bullish it. There's people that's quiet. You just 27 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: noticed that certain kind of people and you we just 28 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: read it from that perspective. You're really good at reading 29 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: people are well. Of course that's what I did for 30 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: a living. What do you mean, not fighting exactly? Yeah, 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: if you don't even have to be a fight, he 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: could be a two pound lower lawyer. Nice stuff. Sizing 33 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: you up, looking at you, watching the way you talk, listening, 34 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: looking for your weaknesses and flaws. You have to break 35 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: that down for me. I need to understand look everything, 36 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Look at how we enact with his children, his wife, 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: his woman, with his weakness. In that perspective, maybe I'll 38 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: talk about them in the press conference and they get mad. Uh, 39 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: what is the definition of love to you? Love to me? 40 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: And um having the worst person in the world. It's 41 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: the worst person in the total world. And they that 42 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: that purpose in the world is to hurt people and 43 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: I of them regardless. That's love. I just love people 44 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: through well. And I'm not saying everybody. I means saying 45 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: that person who I love. There's nothing they can do 46 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: to be wrong, unconditional of No, I don't know what 47 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: unconditional of. It's just nothing. In my opposite, there's nothing 48 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: that they can do to be wrong. If they have 49 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: another husband, another boyfriend, they're not wrong. I love them really. Yeah. 50 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Love is so much bigger than me. Who who might 51 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: have think I can control it? I have never heard 52 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: it explain that way. You don't. That's my way of love, 53 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: and they're here. It explain a different way from my wife. 54 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: How do you implement that in real life? Like how 55 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: does that affect your real life, like your relationship with 56 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: your wife or your kids, or like the people you love? 57 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: So you just love them through whatever, whatever. There's no rules, 58 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: there's no boundaries, have eight everything whatever? Yeah, whatever, do 59 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: you have a boundary? Do you have a limit from 60 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: your love? It's a limit. My love is my loyalty 61 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: is just from this perspective, and once that perspective is 62 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's two types of love. 63 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: I think there's love like that you feel, and then 64 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: this love as an action like action is like showing love. 65 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: Loving somebody, loving on somebody is different. So if somebody 66 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: is like abusive or not good for me or not 67 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: healthy for me, I may disconnect from that love from everybody. 68 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: From my perspective of it, love is the most, the slowest, 69 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: and the most direct form of suicide. Oh my god, 70 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: do you feel that when you love? Sometimes I'm just 71 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: gonna die. They don't they're not interested in me, and 72 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: they start looking at me funny because I gained weight. 73 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't know I felt like that. But maybe a 74 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: version of that you see one day is having years 75 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: walk while you see is eyes looking at somebody else. 76 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's the vulnerable you become vone. You know. 77 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you had your heart broken before. 78 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: Of course it's the worst. Then you feel in a 79 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: form of death. Love is the form of death, you know. 80 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes check this out. When you're so in love with somebody, 81 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: they don't come when you can't eat, or to get 82 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: locked up. You just can't eat for a full couple 83 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: of days. Loved the form of dying. You might even 84 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: kill yourself over them. Oh god, I'm sure you heard 85 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: those stories. Of course, that's so funny because if I 86 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't the first time, I probably got my heart broken. 87 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: I was like, why didn't nobody tell me how awful 88 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: this is? Nobody? This is the best nobody could have 89 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: hear you for it. But this is the best thing. 90 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: You survived it. Not many people survive it. It's so 91 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: powerful they have to take themselves out. And love gives 92 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: you a lot of balls to never underestimated. Pussy what boyfriend? 93 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: You know? What? Right? Don't do that. I won't say 94 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: you can't prepare anybody, but I do. Like for my kids, 95 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: I tell my kids, um, one of the most important 96 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: decisions you make in your life are the people that 97 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: you choose to love. Your friends, the relationships. Hey, then 98 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: your kids don't got power over that. They don't, but 99 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: it's it's good to be at least be mindful of it. 100 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: You cannot power over that. What do you mean? You 101 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: can't choose to like hit you and if you don't 102 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: react to it, it kills you. Yeah, but if you are, 103 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: if you are not mindful, and you are, you subject 104 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: yourself to love, because sometimes love happens because you put 105 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: yourself in situations to fall in love with a certain 106 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: type of person that may not be healthy for you. 107 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: That's your excuse for not acknowledging love it bigger than you. Yeah, 108 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Now who do we think we are 109 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: to handle love? I think you can make choices about 110 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: who you decide to offer your love too. No, I 111 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: don't know. How did you work out with that? I 112 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: feel I felt told what do you mean you felt? 113 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: You did amazing. It's one of the things that I'm 114 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: most fascinated about you, how you've managed to relate your 115 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: wife and the family, and um, this is my third marriage, 116 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: and I heard people so bad being selfish. All right. 117 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: You know what's funny that you say that that's the 118 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: thing you go to is that I hurt people, not 119 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: that people, because some people say I've been hurting love 120 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: or they regret love, because well, I know who I 121 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: am and I know when I'm in that stage of 122 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: my life people are sad. It's not because of me 123 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: taking advantage or even being disrespected. It's about what I'm 124 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: doing to myself. Yeah, but you have regret and hurting 125 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: other people, but some people don't even Well, I have 126 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: regret because I thought it was just me and there 127 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: was none of that business. If I want to hurt myself, 128 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: whatever I want to do, get high, but it's not 129 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: my perspective. So many other people are affected by it. Yeah, 130 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: and that's why I don't like why you know what 131 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean. I understand the act of one of you know, 132 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: the fate of all, but the sometimes you say, hey, 133 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: what the funk am I doing? I don't want to 134 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: be here now? And that hurts my family and my 135 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: friends because it's like responsibility that comes with love, right 136 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: somewhat Yeah, when you have a wife and kids and 137 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: become a dad. That's it's not just free love. It's 138 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: like it's kind of somewhat responsible responsibility to be responsible 139 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: to the people you love. No, I don't know, really, 140 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, I guess I love the way I do. 141 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know I's the definition and or it's a 142 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: blueprint to it. I just and it maybe and my 143 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: love maybe art to some people, but it's my form 144 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: of love. Yeah, but you fucking did it like you like, 145 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: what's it getting doing it? Like? I find it fascinating 146 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: that you, because your self say I have I've done 147 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: this wrong. But you've you've been married how long? Thirteen years? 148 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Don't think that's a tremendous accomplishment. I do, but um, 149 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: and being honest, I think I was beating in submission itself. 150 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: That's crazy. That can't be the only reason that it's last. 151 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: And the actions with just um, your spouse, UM, and 152 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: the things that have been said, you know, things that 153 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: have been said when you know when we're going through 154 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: our who's going to back down um discussions? Yeah? Yeah, 155 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: sometimes some names said and they never forgotten even when 156 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: we say everything's cool, we're backed on loving each other, 157 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: but those names and never forgotten. In this words, you 158 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: always have to be careful what comes out your mother, 159 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: because once you come out, it's everywhere. You can't pull 160 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: it back. But it's just funny to me where you say, 161 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: why I live because the thought of you, Mike Tyson, 162 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: just submitting and being you said, what did you say, 163 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: beat into submission? It was beaten into submission, tossion. It's 164 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: just not I don't think what people would expect. I 165 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: want to. I want to be with my children. I 166 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: want to I justus want to do things different in 167 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: my relationships now. I'm not I'm just some it's just 168 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: interesting that I'm naver getting this. I don't have no 169 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: particular an adota, it's just working. Are you proud of 170 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: yourself in that space? Yeah? I am. I am because 171 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: no one, though offends, thought this would be over in 172 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, so I'm proud of that. See, they 173 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: don't know the power of love. No. I used to know. 174 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna leave her from nothing. I just know 175 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: this is just where it's gonna end, right here, whatever happened, discretions, 176 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: what this is where I'm this where I'm a die 177 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Yet with that? Don't you have those perspectives? And I 178 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: want to die with him? Do you have somebody like 179 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: that want to die with him? Yeah? I've been I've 180 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: been in a relationship for ten eleven years. Think your 181 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: longest relationship ever? Um, yeah, absolutely so, I've had you 182 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: find yourself easy to get along with me. It depends 183 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: on the day. I think I'm a fair person, so 184 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: I could like, um, if you meet me, I will 185 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: show up there and I will deliver. But I think 186 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: also that I'm I ask a lot, you know, so 187 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: why what do you want to know? What's the cause 188 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: of you wanting to know? I want to know everything? 189 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: Why what does it satisfying? I don't know. I like 190 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: like a seeker of truth. I'm always seeking the truth 191 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: in myself and I feel like that what is it 192 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: that you want? What are you searching for that you 193 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: want to know? I don't know. I want to figure 194 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: out how to, Um, I don't know, be the best 195 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: but you to myself? How do you figure to do 196 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: that to make yourself the best possible person on this 197 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: blueprints that anybody knows how to? Have you seen it? No, 198 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't think one person's blueprint could be my bluepriend 199 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: just the way you want to be. Have you seen 200 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: it done before you want your relationship? Oh? Yes, Manifested, 201 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: it's a fucking great question, Mike. I don't know. No, 202 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: I haven't. I grew up in a house with we 203 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: didn't have I didn't grow up around anybody who was 204 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: married or in a healthy relationship or any of that. 205 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: So I don't even know. No, I'm figuring it out 206 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: as I go. Um. I think I'm doing it just 207 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: as much as you are. And I've known how since 208 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: she's been nineteen, and through that process of knowing, since 209 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: we're nineteen and living together and breaking up and live 210 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: hanging out together and breaking up and breaking up all 211 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: the time. We know each other's flaws. We're happy with that, 212 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: and we just live to help people, our friends and people. 213 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: That's basically what we live to do. Do you think 214 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: there's something too? Because you use the term beat into submissions? 215 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Do you think there's something too? I don't know. When 216 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: you're younger and we're like chasing things and like trying 217 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: to get shipped, do you think there's something to the 218 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: effective just finding like somebody that could just give you pieces? 219 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: Even as we do these things is because how we 220 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: see ourselves. You know, most of all me, I'm gonna 221 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: saying myself, I'm really low self esteem. I have the 222 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: biggest ego that's ever been seen. Though it balanced me 223 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: out because sometimes when I say things that are not 224 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: really complimentary to myself, my thumb, they don't talk like 225 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: that about you. I feel who don't who's gonna tell 226 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: me to stop? Who's gonna tell me the truth? Only 227 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: I could do that. I don't know who's gonna say, Hey, Mike, 228 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: what's up, brother? You're an asshole. You shouldn't have done 229 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: this and this and that. You're fucking dick but still 230 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: can about a couple of dollars. But I respect that 231 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: so much. But who's gonna tell me I'm so stupid? 232 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: Who's gonna tell me to say stop? Only I could 233 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: talk to myself like that? What is that? Little self? 234 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: What is that? I would never think that. You see, 235 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: it's being poor most of my life. No, that's not 236 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: most my life, but that experience being poverty is pooh ship. 237 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: When they they did um a documentary on me and 238 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: Hulu and when I was a little kid, they made 239 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: me look so good. My house is so clean and wow, man, 240 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: I said, this is so full of ship. I hate 241 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: they did that. It's all stupid though. That was never 242 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: a middle class, a low class. We didn't pay a ram. 243 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: It was just the weird my brother that the fund 244 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: somebody for you won't kick us out. It's just that's 245 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, yeah, it was the trenches. But is 246 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: that weird for somebody to tell your story and you 247 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: not be part of that. How No, it's not weird because, um, 248 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: in all due respect, if I could be permitted to 249 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: say without being egotistical, they're gonna be writing movies and 250 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: stuff about me forever. So who am I telling them 251 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: to stop, like you know what I mean, they could. Yes, 252 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: I can say that was good, that was bad. But 253 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: people are gonna do what they're gonna do, and I 254 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: can't stop them. I don't know. They helped me just 255 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: as much as I helped them. You do have this 256 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: way about you. It's like you have this like ferocious 257 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: side where you're like, like how you said, you read people, 258 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: you see people's weaknesses. But then also you have this 259 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: thing about you that you're like, go ahead, do that. 260 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna make stories about Oh, go ahead, you want 261 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: to do that. I still love you even though you did. 262 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: I think I'm the old man. What is that? I 263 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: don't know. That's one of Frederick Nietzsche's um archetypes, and 264 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: believing the person that can endure anything paying suffering, and 265 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: that um reflected back there's no income, he's just dooping everything. 266 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reason why I say 267 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: people love you. You just have had so many peaks 268 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: and valleys and ever fascinate you know. I just think 269 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm a part of people that they don't want anybody 270 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: to see. That's why I think I received for our 271 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: of accolades because I'm what they will never let people see. 272 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: What is that? Exactly who they really are, and that 273 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: whatever they may be, whatever it is behind closed, whatever 274 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: it is. But what is that in you? Is that 275 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: like a thought out a state of being that you 276 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: try to be in or is that just something that 277 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: God is? Just your experience and God gave you that 278 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of it's my experience. Yeah, and I'm sure God 279 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: has a great thing to do with that, because God 280 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: inventents me. So I start I stopped looking at God 281 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: as a gender gender. He's just or she or I 282 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: don't say God is the universe. I was told everything 283 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: anonymous was done by a woman. I like that. I 284 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: believe that. I that IK. We've been talking a lot 285 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: on this podcast. You know it's called in real life. 286 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: It's like all the real life things that make us 287 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: who we are. And one of my first chapter that 288 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: I did was about the fact that we're all going 289 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: to die. And I know you think about that. The 290 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: other thing about that today life is just um the 291 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: willingness to die. I was just thinking about. I was 292 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: thinking about the willingness. What do you mean break that down? 293 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: Not being afraid of it, not clinging the life. You know, 294 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: that's the most of it. Do we cling of life? 295 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: Believe them we're never going to die? When they know 296 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna die? How can Who do you cling to this? 297 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: You enjoy this while we're here and then it's over 298 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: a part of the dirt? How do you not? How 299 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: is like? How do you not cling to it? No? Yet, 300 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: sometimes we have to think about ourselves. Why didn't God 301 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: decide to make us? I didn't bother nobody? Why did I? 302 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Why did I? Why did he decide to make me? 303 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: And now I gotta be afraid of death? Why can't 304 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: I just never existed? I never knew anything about life. 305 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: I would never knew anything about myself. But you decide 306 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: to make me, bring me here, and I'm afraid to death? 307 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: Not really, I'm listen. This is what I realized is 308 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: life is good? I could death be bad? How could God? 309 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: You think God want to want us to suffer? No? Really, 310 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: you think the universe really wants us to suffer? Did 311 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: they create us to suffer? So? Did they create us 312 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: to be problem solvers? If you look at that from 313 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: that perspective? So I look at death is just another 314 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: part of life that we never experienced. Do you think 315 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: about what happens when we die. But like you know, 316 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: I know God, It's not gonna be cruel to us. 317 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. He did did he did she? 318 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: Or he did the universe create us to be missed. 319 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: I don't know my leveling to us? What would that 320 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: be like they just made the suffer. It would be chaos, 321 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: which there is a lot of chaos the mind. The 322 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: mind is easy to be manipulated. And we think we're 323 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: controlling and we're very easy to be manipulated. I totally 324 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: agree with that. I think people are manipulating us all day. 325 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: That's like one of my big things about like friendships 326 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: or like boundaries as you talk about, like I don't 327 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: have relationships and love no matter what. It's like one 328 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: of my triggers, like people who try to manipulate you. 329 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: Like so if you be vulnerable and you can give 330 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: love unconditionally, like you say, you can't help it, you 331 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: just love, and if somebody takes that and uses it 332 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: and to manipulate you, Yeah, it's a trigger for me. 333 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: I was told them that's gonna happen all your life, 334 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: you know. That's that's what the purpose that God created 335 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: is to solve problems to live beyond those um fears 336 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: that we we have. You know what I mean to 337 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: become my best, best person, like you were saying, where 338 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: sometimes we're gonna God would allow us to accelerate, and 339 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: people we love may not be able to reach that 340 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: level and we may have to leave them there to 341 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: be the best that we possibly could be. Being the 342 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: best you possibly could be is starting with people, not 343 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: finishing with them because you want to be the best 344 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: you want to be, and they really don't want to 345 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: go to the direction you want to go. They want 346 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: you to stay here and not be disrespectful, hating on it. 347 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: This this is where they can communicate what you at 348 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: do use some movie they can communicate with do that 349 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: makes sense. They can't communicate what you appear. But you 350 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: love We still love each other, but you can't help it. 351 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: Guardless is taking you here, and you still want to 352 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: go down here, But you gotta make the decision. Are 353 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: you gonna come down here just the love and kill 354 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: yourself and all your accomplishments and anything that you ever 355 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: wanted in life and your goal, or you're gonna keep 356 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 1: as sending that could be lonely. It is lonely. But um, 357 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: it's better than the other. And never you can stay 358 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: down here and you don't belong here, so you can't 359 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: stay out here if you wanted to. You just go 360 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: to ascend it. You start getting high and stuff and 361 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: doing drugs you'll come back for. But if you're doing 362 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: the right thing, you start to sending and keep going 363 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: further and reaching what you want to reach, which is 364 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: very scary, and you're gonna reach it, but be careful 365 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: what you wish for you might get it. Do you 366 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: feel like you've gotten all the things you wish for? 367 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: I think I'm overrated as what not a fighter, as 368 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: the mom entity of what I am now can't go 369 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: the place where people applaud and we can't walk the 370 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: street no more. You can't do what makes me me 371 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: anymore because you're overrated as a human because I don't 372 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: have no space. I am booming in my face constantly. 373 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: But you managed to, and I've been around you. You 374 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: managed to still be who you are. I know, but 375 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: you're not with me when I'm home after that. I'm tired. 376 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: No I'm not. I'm tired, but I'm just ranting a 377 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: raven because I know if I do it out there 378 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: I might have we can you know, Oh, but I 379 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: used to try to drain myself. But yeah, I get 380 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: really angry at people too when they, yes, don't fucking 381 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: stop when I do everything, I give them all attention, 382 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: to give all the autographs on paper they want, and they, yes, 383 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: don't fucking stop, and they don't understand that. I get 384 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: angry too. You never show it publicly, Well, we don't 385 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: know it. Sometimes I have to, Yeah, but we haven't 386 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: in a long time. But sometimes, um, I don't even 387 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: hate saying sometimes you gotta kick a motherfucker that. Oh 388 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: we did see that recently. Sometimes we see that recently. 389 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to do it. I was happy for 390 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: you in that moment. I'm gonna be honest. Sometimes you 391 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: were talking about the same moment. But sometimes you have 392 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: to do it, and I don't like doing it, but 393 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: it just feels remarkably good when I do it. Good 394 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: for what? Like? What does it serve? What party was 395 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: just serving before? Before? It recall more or less adrenaline pumping. 396 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: My mind's going back to that aggressive ship, Let's kill him, 397 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: and that felt good. I don't know. You still got that. 398 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: You step fighters forever in you forever for your whole 399 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: life and the fight experience that it is just my 400 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: anger on my rage. How do you do how you 401 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: distinguish the two? People don't distinguish the two when they 402 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: see me. Yes, he's great, don't suck him up. But 403 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: if I have rage, to have anger sometimes still forever 404 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: you think, Yeah, I'm listen. I was getting a brain 405 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: scan recently, not too long ago, a couple of months, 406 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: and the guy said, wow, your brain is great. To 407 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: be a box. He was talking about other boxes brains 408 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: and it looked like Joe. Yeah, it was really bad. 409 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: And he said, but listen, I see anger here. How 410 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: can you tell somebody's anger? You have rages right here? 411 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: This is rage and saying yeah, I do get upset 412 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: sometimes you can tell that to a brain scan. I 413 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: had no idea. What else did you find? Everything's cool 414 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: but that anger? He said, I'm never going to have 415 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: not anger. He said, I'm never gonna have what's this stuff? 416 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: When you start to mention none of that stuff? Um, 417 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: he's never gonna have that because I have a very 418 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: together brain. I didn't really get hit that much, but 419 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: the fact is that, um he detected that rage. That 420 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: blew my mind. I've never heard of that something that 421 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to hear it high and now it's exposed. 422 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm curious from you because there's so many people that 423 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: deal with rage all the time. Or if it's not 424 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: you don't rage, you in a relationship with somebody who 425 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: got rage and people die from that. Yeah, we forgot 426 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: to say that that's would make rage rage because people die. 427 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: People suralive it, but most a lot of people die 428 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: from rage. Household do you mean no? Other people's might 429 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: cut you off and say, right, you don't know what 430 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: this day was like, Yeah, that's just what it is. 431 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: Some people get me, motherfucker. They don't know there's people 432 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: out there more angry than they are, and they don't 433 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: want to have an encounter with them. That's just what 434 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: it is. That's the world I live in, Mike. How 435 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: do you manage that rage? Like? What has been the 436 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: best thing? My wife always say when I go out, 437 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: be nice, be nice. It'd be nice. It'd be nice. Yeah, 438 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: but that's unless you being nice. But if you still 439 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: have a rage inside, but then that's my problem to 440 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: deal with it. I have to be disciplined and keep 441 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: it in control. How do you do that because I'm 442 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: sure there's discipline and those areas far as my brain 443 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: and control of my rage and to my manifesting and 444 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: my meditation. Like fourteen man, I got away from that 445 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: stuff after I got really a big fight and got 446 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: became celebrity, and then you know, my mind started thinking differently. 447 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: It's about pleasure m hm. But you went back to it, right, 448 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: like meditation? Absolutely? Yeah, I see. I started getting involved 449 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: with plant medicine and animal medicine, and I think that 450 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: pretty much killed money and my affinity for cocaine or 451 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: liquor anything like that. That's a big thing. I think 452 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: it's very big. What is the core? What is the like? 453 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: What do you blame your rage on? My insecurity? Yeah? 454 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: Childhood ship? Right? Isn't it crazy that we could be grown, 455 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: have had all these experiences, done all this work, do 456 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: all types of health. Yeah, they is when you your 457 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: whole life because without fetching, nobody have to reflect on 458 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: what you truly are. All of us have our mathica vanity, 459 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: and we try to prevent people to know what we 460 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: really are. Hm. We were talking. I was talking about 461 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: Kelly Roland and we were talking about are neither one? 462 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: We just both of us recently. Well, I didn't reconnect 463 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: with my father, but I found that my father was alive. 464 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: She reconnected with her father, neither one of us. Kelly Roland, 465 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: you know Kelly Rowland Destiny Child. Yeah, you know Kelly. 466 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: So we were talking about this and she was and 467 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: we were talking about the results of not having a 468 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: father in your life. Whoa for women and what that 469 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: is for you. I'm sure that a whole other thing. 470 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: To listen my parents, Um, I don't know. It would 471 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: have been interesting with my parents alife when I was 472 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 1: very successful. You know, my parents were alcohol like, they 473 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: were sex workers. It would have been pretty interesting. You know. 474 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: They were scared of the world like that, they were 475 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: scared to get too close to that. I'm sure they 476 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: had in securities to them. I forgot it from them, Yeah, yeah, probably, 477 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: but there's always like residual stuff. And then I'm like, okay, so, okay, 478 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: maybe I got trust issues because my father wasn't around. 479 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: So relationships with men are challenging and things like that. 480 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: But at some point, as an adult, can't you let 481 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: go of that stuff? Can't you do work and like 482 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: let it go? Or does you think it always stays 483 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: stay with you. Because if you get in a relationship 484 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: and said how is your life? Is the kid, have 485 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: your boyfriend or who you would ever ask you that? 486 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: Of course then you have to explain that because when 487 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: he said how was your life to get boom weight? 488 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: There you go triggered. You might lie and then one 489 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: day you really come with it. You may start telling 490 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: speaking on the issue. It never goes away. If you 491 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: don't think your childhood ever goes away. If you went away, 492 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: I would not be here talking to you. M hmm. 493 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Um, your mind want you to get so 494 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: far away from it, and you think success is leaving 495 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: you away, leaving you further away, But success is joining 496 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: your closer. What has been your greatest success? Like, what 497 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: are you most proud of in your life? Really? Yeah, 498 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: what about that you as a dad? Or just who 499 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: they are? I think it's just there, Um, it's just 500 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: who they are. It's just who they are. I don't know, 501 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: maybe having maybe me myself being in their life, being 502 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: a present in their life, and maybe that I've never 503 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: done that before, and that's it's pretty interesting having a 504 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: relationship with your kids. Um, for a long time, I 505 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: never had a relationship with them. Oh yeah, I'm just 506 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: happy that my older older story has got married. And 507 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm just happy I'm a part of the life that's 508 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: going to happen now, my next generation, my kids on 509 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: my time machine, they're going to the future. For me, 510 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: I love that this is like the elevator of life, right, 511 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Like you become the father, then you become the grandfather 512 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: your kids more than father and grandfather, and then you 513 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: get closer to them. Yeah, and further from my grandkids. Right. 514 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: And as you get older, you get closer to your 515 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: parents than you are to your kids as you die. 516 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: Do you ever think about reconnecting with your parents or 517 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: your mom? Would what that would be? Like? What have 518 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm married her? What do you mean? You know? kikiS 519 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: like my mother? Really? Yeah, how it's doing my mother? 520 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: I get the same, you know, the mean kind, be 521 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: nice to everybody, talk to people here that She's like, 522 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: um now, she's like van damn, what's the young lady mean? 523 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: Come on, she's from Brownsville. Who's that baby is from Brownsville? Yeah? 524 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: She badasses? And I had no idea she's badass, man, 525 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: I had no idea she was from Brownsville. Yeah, but 526 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: that's I think I think my wife is um oh 527 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: my god, I think my wife wont that position. She 528 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: went to talk to everybody, help them with their feelings. 529 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Talk to them. Oh god, they don't have money. That's now, 530 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: get the funk this stop. Okay, you love it. I 531 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: know you can't help everybody, but everybody can help somebody. 532 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: Look at like that. You help a lot of people 533 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: to Mike, do you feel like that? That's my purpose 534 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: in life to help people and listen when if I 535 00:31:54,160 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: was twelve, I was thirteen when in spotfit detention for 536 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: boys and they came and visit us, and once I 537 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: saw him assel, I want to be like him. Wowhamma 538 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: Ali walks, Yeah, never know about boxing, didn't care about boxing. Boom. 539 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: I want to be like what was it? The people 540 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: are crazy, that's what it was. I want to be 541 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: like that first time. That's I want to be like him. 542 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: The first time. I remember saying that what was the thing? 543 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: Was it? A thing he did? Was just the way 544 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: people respond? I want this? Yeah, but now you got it, 545 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: you said sometimes. So that's what I wanted. I wanted 546 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: to be like Mohammeddi when people came in, people crying, 547 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: the grown men crying. I can't imagine you at thirteen 548 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: Robin everybody with Robbins and then I got invol with boxing. 549 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: My whole life was crying. Yeah, you see, blue boy, 550 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: we grew up. I grew up with him and institutions unbelievable. 551 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: So you were together thirteen years old for robbing people. 552 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: But that's what you gotta Yeah, that's what I am. 553 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Snatch your pocket to change. They am wrong, But you know, 554 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: never trip you out that people like hold you up 555 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: at such a high, Like there's people like all over 556 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: the world that just like love you, And in your 557 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: mind you're like, they don't they don't know that thirteen 558 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: year old. Kay, how would they even treat that thirteen 559 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: year old? Kill them? But yes, um, I'm conscious. I'm 560 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: very conscious of people my situation and that's how you know, 561 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: you have to be open with yourself. You are what 562 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: you are. Its just the funk it is. You know 563 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: what about cancel culture? Does that ever scare you that? 564 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I feel like we live in 565 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: a world where like it doesn't it's not conducive to 566 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: people being so free. That's one of the most things 567 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm most fascinated by you about is you managed to, like, 568 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: even with like you say, your demons, your rage or 569 00:33:54,600 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: whatever you have, you still seemingly like all free, live free, 570 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: without like fear of I don't know, canceling or offending 571 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: or cancelm fuck you. I feel like like if they 572 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: cancel you, you would almost enjoy it because you would 573 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: want to fight everybody? How scared? How happy are you? 574 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: We asked this, I guess a lot. How happy are 575 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: you on to scale a one to ten today? Today? Years? Yeah? 576 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: I love that this moment. Yeah happy right now at 577 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: this moment. Yeah, that makes me even happier on an 578 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: average day. How happy are you? I don't know, it 579 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: might be how what do you think? Damon normal day? 580 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: That's still great? Yeah. But the ship I said, for 581 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: that three, it's kind of hur that three is the 582 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: motherfucker man. What triggers the three? What is the thing 583 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: that would take you down to a three family losing 584 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: my wife? It's fucking crazy. That's like deep stuff, that's 585 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: like heavy stuff. Take it down the three similar three ship, 586 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: that's that three ship to get to make it go 587 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: to tender blows up. That's the dynamite that three of 588 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: the dynamite everything else is beautiful with that fucking three. 589 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: But it takes a lot. You wouldn't be triggered by 590 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: like a road rage. Could that take you to a three? No? 591 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: But after we get home we discussed that. Yeah, ain't 592 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: doing nothing one. We got the wheel, we get home, 593 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: we discussed that. Yeah, what is that discussion? As the 594 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: baby you ran over the curb three times? I met 595 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: other people that help piss you off on the road. 596 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: Somebody cuts you off, somebody flips you a finger or 597 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: something like that. That won't take you down right, no way. 598 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: I like to laugh like that, just make you laugh. 599 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: That's really amazing. A ten is fucking great. I'm just 600 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: very grateful that I could reach that. Yeah, what is 601 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: the key to that? Is a gratefulness. Yeah. I don't 602 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: want to lose my family, and let's just it's just 603 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: a lot of things that you go through your mind. 604 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: People out there, they will be happy to get it 605 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: to an eight. Eventually they will stop existing. It's one 606 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: of the other m hmm. There's other people out there 607 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: more angry than you are. They lost their mother too, 608 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: they lost their kids, and you get mad because you're 609 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: this girl you just broke up with you be careful 610 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: the degree, the fucking bad days. It's my bad days here, 611 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: but his bad thing might be here. Somebody always has 612 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: it word, somebody always has it works, and he's just 613 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: waiting for him, a little motherfucker like this to get 614 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: him raised. I think he had some problems. I'm just 615 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: showing problems. That's the world out there that I live in. Yeah. 616 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: One of your My favorite things I heard you say 617 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: is that everybody that you fight is not your enemy 618 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: that quote, yea. And everybody that helps you it's not 619 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: your friend. Yeah, that's so real and so powerful. How 620 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: do you know when somebody is your friend and comes 621 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: with time, sacrifice, um, enduring pain together, suffering together. You know, 622 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: it's just a lot of things. Do you have a 623 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: lot of friends or a small knit Okay, they have 624 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: a little small core friends. Yeah, but you love people though, 625 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: like you like certain people. Yeah. I think I'm very 626 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: easy to get along with. Pa. But everybody that helps you, 627 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: it's not your friend, no way. A lot of times 628 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: they want things or maybe down the line, maybe five 629 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: years from now, ten years from now, and things are 630 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: better and things happen different. That's just how it is. 631 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: The Other part of that is that everybody that you 632 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: fight is not your enemy. That's really powerful because absolutely 633 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: beautiful people out here. We um we have a difference 634 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: of opinions and our former fighting in verbal and we 635 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: never have a chance to really articulate ourselves the way 636 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: we want among the two of us, and so that 637 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: starts conflict now more than ever. Absolutely, you have all 638 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: the computers and stuff, and sometimes you can say a 639 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff to somebody that's in America and you're 640 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: in Germany or somewhere, and then conflicts. Yeah, you like fighting, 641 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: You're going down this road. And now everybody get just 642 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: wants popular arab for this stuff, it would be popular. 643 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: It's um, it's terrible, I know. But it's a narcotic. 644 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: It's a drug. Oh I think, so okay, this is 645 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: a drug. This stuff that's camera stuff. Yeah, I know. 646 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: I try not. I try to have a healthy relationship 647 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: with it as healthy as I can. Wow, how do 648 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: you have a healthy relationship? What makes it unhealthy? What 649 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: makes it unhealthy? It is when I do it because 650 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: I want to I want to be I want like so, 651 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: or I want fame, or I want you know, make 652 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: you deserve. I'm not saying I don't want to make money. 653 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: I want to do all those things. I want to 654 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: be successful. I'm a driven person. But like me sitting 655 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: with you, if I'm just sitting with you, like okay, 656 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: how can I get people to like or click or 657 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: view this, then my conversation with you is going to 658 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: be different as if I sit here and I go 659 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: what can I learn from Mike today? What can I 660 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: talk to Mike that might actually be offering to somebody 661 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: that's watching it. So if I come to the table 662 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: like that, not that I'm I'm sucking human. So sometimes 663 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: I get caught up in being competitive or get caught 664 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: up in trying to chase maybe a success I had 665 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: at another point or another interview. But like I have 666 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: to I always check myself. If I feel like i'm 667 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: my intentions or my I have to check myself. You 668 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: have to do self inventory and be like why didn't 669 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: why didn't that feel good? That didn't feel good because 670 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: you went in there trying to blah blah blah. If 671 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: you would have went in there and just listened and 672 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: tried to find something to offer, then it would have 673 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: been better. Does that make sense for me? For me, 674 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: that's the same thing, but then the next one will 675 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: be better. Sometimes you have to make mistakes to reach 676 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: your goals in life. Anytime you want to be the 677 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: best of anything, I'm talking about anything a bug collector 678 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: and collector um garbage can collect. The time, you won't 679 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: be the best in the world. It's gonna be disappointment. 680 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: And by the way you handle those disappointments would tell 681 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: if you're going to be a success and not. You know, 682 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: so crazy people think that you reach a certain level 683 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: of success and then that's it's just success. They don't 684 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: realize there's still disappointments. Always for your friends, disappointing you 685 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: in certain situation. Anything you disappoint yourself. Sometimes have a 686 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: lot of pain. People have a lot of pain. It's 687 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: just that we have them. From myself speaking, we have 688 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: to accept every thing in life who we are. A 689 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: lot of us doesn't don't accept who we are, always 690 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: scared to show the world who we are. It's just um. 691 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: People are very complex, and that's okay, I've been very complex, 692 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: But that's what people are. That's what we do. We 693 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: love each other, we heard each other, we die for 694 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: one another. It's just we live for one another. It's 695 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: just this is what human beings do. There's nothing you 696 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: could say that human that human beings haven't done. How's 697 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: your relationship with all this cameras, phone, social media, press, 698 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: public persona, Like, how do you manage your relationship with 699 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: all that outside noise? Even now you're doing podcasts? And 700 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: here in this room, it's my room, and wherever I'm 701 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: doing this stuff, unequip believe I'm God, I'm guard him 702 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: and here right here, I'm going like you go right here. 703 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: Whatever you say, the world's gonna see it and most 704 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: likely accepted. That's where you're following comes from congregation. Congregation 705 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: and next thing you though, they're inviting their friends to 706 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: come to church, then write different anything you know, you 707 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: get too million friends on church. It's just um. This 708 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: is just um a platform for you to be who 709 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: you want to be and play the role a divinity. 710 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: It's just the role. But we can still play it. 711 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: But did you do it to get the congregation? Now? Hey, listen, 712 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: I never wanted to do the podcast. I told it 713 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: a couple of times and we had millions of views, 714 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: and that is sick car And I was just doing 715 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: this stuff and people start writing he's the genius, he's 716 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: a Google, he's this and that, and I don't know. 717 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: I got that just showing up doing you. I think 718 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: you have a pretty healthy relationship. You have to be 719 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: able to have a healthy relationship. But I don't know. 720 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: My kids don't seem to think. So what do you mean? 721 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 1: What do you think? Kids telling me that I'm one 722 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: of my god complex? I'm think I'm this and Madonna 723 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: and Magic Johnson, Michael john is so much flight in you? 724 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: And wait? Is that the bar in your house? Is it? Like? 725 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: Are you compared to all these other goats? Is that 726 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: what happened was just that I was talking about my 727 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: other than under it my thing. Um, I might seem 728 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: magic Jonathan when I don't know a fur coat of something. 729 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: Why are you not wearing the fur coat? Then? Why 730 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: you don't have a oh Man ship? She said? I 731 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: tell me Madonna is not bigger than you. D come 732 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: on like Oprah Wimpy is so much bigger than you. Dad. 733 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: Why do you thank you sobody? And you love it? 734 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: I loved that for you. What do you still want 735 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: to do? I'm the sky the limits. Start working with 736 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: my kids, the shows, the projects with my kids. I'm 737 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: not the kind of I don't want the world, you 738 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's just the the world comes 739 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: to me, but I don't want it. I mean, you've 740 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: done a lot. You don't have to do anything else. 741 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: You don't even have to do with the things you're 742 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: doing now, if you want to want to do more, 743 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm I gonna do? Do nothing? Since 744 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: I did so much and die from doing nothing. I 745 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: guess want um. I want to prosper, I want things 746 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: for me, um in my name, to help people. I 747 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: just that's what's happening, to give back. You know. I 748 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: don't want me personal number, my kids, and I don't 749 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: want to die. Rich Man, you don't know way you 750 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: want to spend it all, give it away. I don't 751 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: want to have no one when I'm dead. Well, hopefully 752 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 1: we have you here for a very long time. Hey, 753 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: if I live for twenty years is not long enough. 754 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: You had a good life now, right, I mean you're 755 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: at a ten. I'm happy. That's amazing. You know. Let's 756 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: think about imagine somebody's on death row forever and yes, 757 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: um die that we still see them. And I like 758 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: all these people that we ran. Of course, I just 759 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: looked at it in the car. Where did the as 760 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: people go do they do? We see them again sometimes 761 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: and they get tricky, get tricky. No, life is wild. No, 762 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: every time something happens in life. I figured out I 763 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: gave a homeless person some money, two d bucks. But 764 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: he see my feeling like this. He didn't say thank you. 765 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 1: That he said God, that was recently. Yeah, he's pointing 766 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: up there, and we kept lefting. He kept pointing up there, 767 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: and we left his point loft it up. Sometimes when 768 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: I see, especially in New York, like I'll see a 769 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: homeless person, I'll see somebody asking for money. I always 770 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 1: wonder if it's like an angel or the profits or Yeah, 771 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: I always wonder everybody walks past the fact that as 772 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: human beings, we could walk down the street in New York, 773 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: see a homeless personally in the street and just keep walking. 774 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: I do feel like you when we show up upstairs 775 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: right and it's our time, we might be questioned about that. No, No, 776 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: your consciousness, you're anxiousness is God. If we didn't have 777 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: no laws, no laws, and you know it right wrong, 778 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: you know you did have fucked up. A conscious is God. Yeah, 779 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: unless you really even if you're fad, you know, hurting 780 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: that person that right, making that person that look like 781 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: you anymore. It's not right. You know, we all know 782 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: a conscious tell us what's right and wrong. You listen 783 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, it tells you. You have to listen 784 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: to it. You have to. You're fascinating, Mike. I could 785 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: talk to you all day long. I'm so even just 786 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: as a fan of somebody who's knowing you and gotten 787 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 1: to know you over the years, like just like so 788 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: fascinated and proud of how you just maintained. Like you know, 789 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: people look at your life and oh, he spent a 790 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: lot of ship, But when you really think about the 791 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: life and like you said, their teams doing this, and 792 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: you know that's raging it and losing all my money, 793 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: then getting kicked out of the box for biting this 794 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 1: Niger ear and then doing some mother ship um rage, 795 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: road rage on the jail for that, a motorcycle crash. 796 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: Drugs with my wife. I listen, it wasn't for my 797 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: wife that that helped me on the drug tip. I 798 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: was really fucked up on that looking at cocaine. I 799 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: was really fucked up. And it came across from New 800 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 1: the Mike tyson that at the partying and I'm fire, 801 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: having a good time. And so I come home and 802 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: my wife opened door and see me, and she said, well, 803 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: the fun are you? Why didn't you figure it that 804 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: over the radio? And I didn't really, I haven't really up. 805 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: When did that happen a few years ago? Ten years ago? 806 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: Her baby? Fuck? Thank god it wasn't. No, I'm not 807 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,760 Speaker 1: ready to go yet. Um planted me here, not ready 808 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,959 Speaker 1: to accept me again. Do you ever talk to people 809 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: who are addicted to drugs and give them any type 810 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: of I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I don't tell how 811 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: to beat it because I used always say, why you 812 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: gotta start something that you have to stop? You know 813 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: you started? You gotta stop this if you want to 814 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 1: live a function to life. That's one of my learning 815 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: moments when someone told me that why are you gonna 816 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: do something you gotta stop? Do you want to do 817 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: something that you never have to stop and live good 818 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: from it? Yeah? You're right, absolutely right, yeah, because that 819 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: doesn't end well if you never stop. It just didn't 820 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: make sense when you said, why are your starting? Did 821 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: you have to stop? If it is? The light came more. Yeah, 822 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: you're right, yeah, yeah, you're right. We the last thing 823 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: we've been talking about. Another thing I've been talking about 824 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: on this pod. It's like superpowers and the things that 825 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: make us. And by the way, you are a unicorn. 826 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: There's no there's nobody else like I can't meet you 827 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, you remind me of my It's 828 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: like nobody else you are Mike Tyson, the only Mike Tyson. 829 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: You're like a unicorn. But I think if we really 830 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: look at people, that everybody has these like unique qualities 831 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: that that you are given to kind of perform in 832 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: the world or whatever your purpose or whatever is. Do 833 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: you know what yours are? Like? Have you ever thought 834 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: about that? Like, what the things are that are your superpowers? 835 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: Make people happy? Yeah, that's why I think it is. 836 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: You know, I can't stop by cops and the stuff 837 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: for my really yeah, my power if I had a 838 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: superpower make people smile? Yeah, when did you realize that? 839 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 1: When did you? Like when the when was the moment 840 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: that you like, people tell me said, well, you make 841 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: so many people happy, and so there's people tell me 842 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: you make so many people, have to make so many 843 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: people happy, and you don't try, right, No, I mean 844 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: it's it's try to be as humble as possible. Sometimes 845 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,399 Speaker 1: I get piste off to them and they know I'm 846 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 1: a human being and the mic get piste off. Mike 847 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: is good. People don't say this about Mike. Don't get 848 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: Mike ananty. People know they know that, you know. So 849 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: I have a lot of good encounters with people. Is 850 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: there a superpower that you ever admire and somebody else 851 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: that you wish or that you wish you could have u? Yeah, 852 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 1: someone that doesn't react so many they can spit on nothing. 853 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 1: You have to control themselves. Do you know anybody like that? 854 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: They're out there like monks. You know there's people out there. 855 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 1: They may have been monks before. They may read about 856 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: Buddha or something and they didn't want to receive that life. 857 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: May read Nietzchee book. They you know people people read 858 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: people what they read, you know who they associate with. 859 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: That's how you to find the person. What do you 860 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: pray for? Let my kids are healthy, my family is healthy. 861 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: That's the ultimate thing, right, Yeah? I love that. See 862 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 1: some grandkids and stuff. Do you have grandkids? I love 863 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: to see him. Yeah, I love to see So you're 864 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: gonna be the greatest. I think so full time. I 865 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: think so too. That it's like boxing a thing in 866 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: your family, Like, are you allowed to teach the kids that, yeah, 867 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 1: that's that's not I took the punches that they gonna 868 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: have to. Oh. I love that well. I hope that 869 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: you have many days out of ten of happiness. This 870 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: is one of them. Thank you, baby, Thank you so 871 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: much for today. M