1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are thrilled to be 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: joined by Rick Minter, the father of new head coach 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Jesse Minner. And Rick's congrats to you, congrats to the fam. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: And can you tell us kind of the reaction when 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: you got the call from Jesse to tell you that 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: he was the new head coach of the Ravens. 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Well, certainly ecstatic as a father, couldn't be more proud. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: As a coach who's worked alongside this young man for 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: the last five years consistently, I've seen the growth, the evolution, 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: the maturity, the insight and all the professionalism that led 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: him to this moment. It's a tremendous thing for the family. 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: So I'm happy for Rachel, Millie, mack Monty, the children. 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: Their lives are changed forever in a positive sense. He's 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: going back to a familiar ground, certainly being Baltimore Ravens. 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: When the job opened, nobody thought months ago John Harball 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: would be where he's at right now, and so the 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: Ravens weren't on the radar. But when that thing opened, 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: I told Jess, I said of all the jobs that 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: are opening. As they piled up up to ten, I said, 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: I think the Ravens is the best job out there 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: with Lamar, the infrastructure, the ownership, all the things that 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: make the Ravens great. And I said, that's the one 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: job John can't get because he's going to be pursued 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: all the rest of them. But anyway, it worked out, 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be a great marriage 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: and partnership with what Jess is going to bring and 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: what Eric and Ozzie and Steve and Sache all bring 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: together as a unit. Thing's going to be fun. Journey. 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: What was your piece of advice to him as a 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: longtime coach nearly fifty years for you now we're working 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: on right. 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a journey, I would say to anyone. 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: I think I probably as a father number one, but 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: as a coach, I probably had the most influence on 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: Jesse from the first year, you know, six, when he 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: started with beingt Notre Dame up through when he joined 38 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: the Ravens in seventeen. The Ravens is like family. John 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: Harball worked for me at Cincinnati. I made the call 40 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: to him, Hey, let's Getess on board. If you could. 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: Wink was there. Wink coached for me, Chris Hewitt played 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: for me, Jerry Rossberg coach for me. So it's all 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: in the family. When Jesse got hired up there, so 44 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: it was an easy adjustment for him, and I think 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 2: I just helped mold and make his understanding philosophy insights, 46 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: i'd say, for the first half of his young career, 47 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: but since that time and encouraged to do so, go 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: somewhere else and learn a whole new learn another way, 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: and that's what he did. When he got with the Ravens. 50 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: He worked under Dean for one year, and then of 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: course alongside Wink and those guys, and then Mike and 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: Chris and all those guys. So he's really broadened his 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: horizons of how the game should be looked at, how 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: it should be approached and played. Watched him do that 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: for four years. Then when he went to Andy leaving 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: the Ravens in twenty one, I was fortunate enough, being 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: in between jobs myself, that I could join him and 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: work with him as an analyst. And then since then 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: it's just been a good ride for me. When Jim 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: called Jesse after one year at Vandy, you know, Mike 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: had gone up, Mike came back, Jesse replaced Mike. It's 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: all in the family. Jim is the one who insisted 63 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: I come with him because the Harballs embraced their father 64 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: in their lives, and I think Jesse does that. Jim 65 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: does that, John does that. So Jim told Jesse, he said, Hey, 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: if you like working with your dad advantage, just bring 67 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: him on up. I got a job for him, and 68 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: the same thing when he took the La Charger job, 69 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: Jesse was going to be the coordinator. He said, Hey, 70 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: we've got a senior analyst right here. Let's go. So 71 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: I've been fortunate and lucky to be sitting side by 72 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: side this young man for the last five years, sometimes 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: in the same staff room in discussion. I helped him 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: with the running game and kind of as a co worker, 75 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: not as only a dad, but as a co worker. 76 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: And it's just been amazed for me to watch his 77 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: evolution because I've been with him at all those stops 78 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: Vandy been with him at Michigan, see the growth from 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: year one to two, and then what he brought to 80 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: the NFL and got the Chargers on track instantly becoming 81 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: the number one defense. Last year in the top five 82 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: this year. So I think he's well prepared. He's going 83 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: to familiar grounds. Let's just improve what's been done there 84 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: over the decades, and you know, play like a raven. 85 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. You mentioned the experience that he had 86 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: here earlier in his career. He had been a coach 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 3: and coordinator even at some small school, a small, smaller 88 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 3: school level in college and he comes here to the 89 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: NFL and gets the opportunity to be on this staff 90 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: and work alongside some really great coaches. How important do 91 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: you think and how formative were those years for him 92 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: in his development as a coach. 93 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think we all, you know, walk our path. 94 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: You know, we all become I think it's critical if 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: you want to be a leader, you want to be 96 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: the head coach, you want to be a coordinator, that 97 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: you don't be afraid to jump out there and do it, 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: jump in the fire. You're going to have trial and error, 99 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: You're going to get your nose bloodied. Yet you're going 100 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: to have you four moments. When I had an opportunity 101 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: in twenty ten to go to Indiana State in between 102 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: jobs looking for something, they happen to have a linebacker 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: job open on that staff with Jesse working under Trent Miles, 104 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: a former assistant of mine, and I went over there 105 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: to run the defense for them what turned out to 106 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: be one season. I lived with Jesse and Rachel as 107 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: a single guy. They took me in and I had 108 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: the most fun in the world doing that one living 109 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: with my son daughter in law coaching alongside. We brought 110 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: along Jesse's best friend and life is PJ. Volker, the 111 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: young defensive coordinator down at the Naval Academy doing a 112 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: great job down there with Brian Nu. So we got 113 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: everybody on board and I worked with those guys and 114 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: they followed my lead another year of influence from me, 115 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: and whenever I left to join the Kentucky staff as 116 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: the coordinator, knew that Indiana State thing would be short lived. 117 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: But the head coach asked me at that moment, and 118 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: this was I think a critical moment for Jesse. He says, 119 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: what should I do in replacing you? And he already 120 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: had a plan in place of possibility, and I said, no, no, no, 121 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: you can't do that one. You have one move here 122 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: if you want to make this thing stay on course 123 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: the way we are right now with what we're running 124 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: what we know, etc. And that's the hire. Jesse is 125 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: your coordinator. He says, you sure. I said, I am 126 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: absolutely sure, and sure enough he took the ball and 127 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: ran with it. In eleven and twelve they kept it 128 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: winning over there in a very challenging program. They went 129 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: up against Carson Wentz at North Dakota State, being in 130 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: that Missouri Valley, beat him in two thousand and eight twelve. 131 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: That landed them the Georgia State job down in Atlanta 132 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: of the Sun Belt, an evolving program, and they went 133 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: down there did exactly the same thing, started with no wins, 134 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: one win, six wins, and just built it up. And 135 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: then I joined them in sixteen what turned out to 136 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: be the final year of that tenure, but nonetheless again 137 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: a chance to work with Jesse. Now that was then 138 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: the first role reversal. He had been on his own 139 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: for five years, calling his own shots. And when I 140 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: first took that job, of which he gladly offered, I says, 141 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if I can do this, 142 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: you know as a but I'm dad here. Oh yeah, 143 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: you know. He and I aren't the same exact personalities, 144 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: and he had so much more cool calm, collected and 145 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: collaborative and involving, and he attracts people, and you know, 146 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: he's kind of like a pied piper. You know, I'm 147 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: probably the opposite, but I'm just more old school and 148 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: that type of thing. But after a few days, I said, 149 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: you know what, this can be real fun. I'm gonna 150 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: let him worry about calling third down. I'm going to 151 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: sleep well on Friday nights and I'm gonna be here, 152 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: you know. So at about that time, I became a grandpa, 153 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: with Millie coming along first in July twenty of sixteen, 154 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: and so I joined him for personal reasons and more 155 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: portly family reasons to be around my then newborn to granddaughter. 156 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: And we thought we were going to be there a few 157 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: years and then evolved to something, but didn't know that 158 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: that staff would be terminated after that year. They just 159 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: won the year before we fell on hard times. We 160 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: played great defense in spite of not winning, all led 161 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: by Jesse. And then I mean we went out and 162 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: tried to get jobs. I tried to help him get 163 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: this job, that job. He interviewed two or three places. 164 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: And you know, you're not guaranteed anything in life when 165 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: you're a free agent coach, and so I picked up 166 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: the phone after an exhaustive search of us both trying 167 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: to find work, and I call John. I mean, John 168 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: and I are state friends through the years, and I said, John, 169 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: you've got to do your best to get Jesse to 170 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: the NFL. He's just like you. And I say that 171 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: now ironically he's replacing him. But Jesse has a lot 172 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: of John Harbaugh qualities. I mean he's high integrity, high character, 173 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: a great family guy, seize the broad picture people attract 174 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: to him. He's got a pleasing personality yet can be firm. 175 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of similarities. And I sold that 176 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: on John, and he hired him the day brought him up. 177 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: They brought him in on the morning, send him home 178 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: at night with a contract to be an intern. So 179 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: that got him in the door with the Ravens. And 180 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: like anything, you stand on people's shoulders sometimes to get 181 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: things in life, but once you're on the inside, you're 182 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: really on your own and it's up to you to 183 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: get it done. And he's done that. He grew in 184 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: that system from intern up to assistant dB, the head 185 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: dB coach, with Chris getting the title of past Game coordinator. 186 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: He worked alongside Wink and Mike and they retooled that 187 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: entire defense. You remember night in twenty eighteen, and Mike's 188 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: winning with it. Now he's going to the super Bowl. 189 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: And I think the insight that Eric and Steve could 190 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: have had is we've got a little bit of a 191 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: blueprint possibility here of how Mike's run his show. And 192 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: Jesse and Micro best friends. They talk all the time, 193 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: and so he's going to come in. He's going to 194 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: probably run the defense himself. If I had to guess, 195 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna be like Mike, he's gonna put together He's 196 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: got to hire a critical offensive, higher teams, and all 197 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: those sorts of things. But he does see the big picture. 198 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: But I think the Ravens might have seen a sneak 199 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: preview in looking at how the Seahawks are doing it 200 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: as perhaps that's how the Ravens can continue their great ways. 201 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope. So that would be pretty awesome. My 202 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: question for you, Rick is, you know, obviously we all 203 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: know the brilliant defensive mind that Jesse has, right and 204 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: just what he's done with these defenses. You know, obviously 205 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: with us Michigan, you know the Chargers down the line. 206 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: You know, this will be his first time being a 207 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: head coach, which brings different responsibilities. 208 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: Obviously, absolutely absolutely, What have what have. 209 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: You seen from him in recent years over over his 210 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: life that you feel like has built him to this 211 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: point where you know that makes them a very good 212 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: head coach. 213 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think in this day and age, it's all 214 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: about communication, collaborative efforts, inclusiveness, not exclusiveness, player involvement. Just 215 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: talk to Dervin James, you know, one day, you guys 216 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: should just do a pod with Derwin James and let 217 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: that guy or T Jeff, you know, the guy that's 218 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: been both a Raven and a Charger. He's seen he's 219 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: seen both and uh, but I just think that he's 220 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: very modern day, much more so than myself. He's learned 221 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: from both hardballs, and I think the Hardballs have been 222 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: so successful in their careers going back to their dad 223 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: and his influence on them, that they know the way 224 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: to win, they know the way to involve people. Jim 225 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: is such a outside the box thinker, and Jesse sees 226 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: that and has derived from that. You know, he looks 227 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: at things even when I throw things out him to consider. 228 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: Then he's already considered that, he's already way out in 229 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: front of answering that challenge, that dilemma. Not overreactive at all. 230 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: He's going to be very academic about it. He's going 231 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: to be creative about it. He's going to be inclusive. 232 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: He may listen to people, but ultimately he'll make his 233 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: own decision, as leaders are paid to due, so he's 234 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: paid his dues. I mean, it's been like all of 235 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: our careers, ups and downs and a lot more ups, 236 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: you know. Lately, helping Jim win the national title was huge. 237 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: We led the league, led the nation in college football 238 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: and almost about every category you can, and went straight 239 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: to the Chargers and took over a unit maybe similar 240 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: to what's happened recently with the Ravens over the last 241 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: couple of years, you know, just a little bit of 242 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: downtrodden than expectations, giving up some leads in the fourth 243 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. That was kind of the mindset 244 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: with the Chargers, and Jesse had to go in and 245 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: change that, and he did. We became the number one 246 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: scoring defense. I think ability he has on defense, not 247 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: only this creative mind of analyzing him dissecting an offense 248 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: He just knows how to get the best out of 249 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: the player's strengths that he has. Not going to complain 250 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: about the players that he has. He'll work with Eric 251 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: and Ozzy and all those guys, I'm sure closely, but 252 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: you're not going to hear him complain about what we 253 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: have or don't have. With Baltimore, He's going to make 254 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: it work. He's going to accentuate their strengths, minimize their weaknesses, 255 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: try to turn their weaknesses into strengths. I remember how 256 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: you know, how he interviewed Jesse like three years ago 257 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: after his first year at Michigan, and how I worked 258 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: at the EGO, so I know how he very well 259 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: and he first called me up to say would Jesse 260 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: be interested? Well, that got an interview process going that 261 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: did not work out. After the twenty two season, they 262 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: hired another per fortunately for Michigan, and Jim Jesse stayed 263 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: and then moved on to the Chargers. But we played 264 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: the Eagles this year. Not only do we beat the Eagles, 265 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: but you had Howie walking up to Jesse. He says, 266 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 2: you son of a gun, and he says, I should 267 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: have hired your ass, you know, three years ago. But 268 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: we didn't. But when he talks to me, he said, 269 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: Jesse does a great job. He says, you guys on 270 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: defense with the Chargers play more people on your roster 271 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: than any team in the league just participation. You carry 272 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: what twenty two to twenty three guys on the active 273 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: On Sundays, we play most of those guys. I mean, 274 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: everybody gets to play. So that helps practice habits, that 275 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: helps morale, that helps inclusiveness. This guy can do this. Well, 276 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: let's get him in on that situation. And he says, 277 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: you get the most out of the players you have, 278 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: and you play the most players in the league. And 279 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: I think coming from a GM who's observant and successful 280 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: in his own right, that's quite a compliment. And so 281 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: I know that Eric and Steve saw all these things. 282 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: This is not a secret. These are just facts and 283 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: some observations. But it's so comfortable. I think you don't 284 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: want to overuse the word comfort because it'll be a 285 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: major challenge to get the club back to where it 286 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: wants to be, and that's in the super Bowl, So 287 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: you don't want to be comfortable, but it is. It's 288 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: like going home. He told me. He said, I walked 289 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: in the doors and set with Eric and Ozzy and 290 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: got around the facility, met some of the familiar faces 291 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: that you know, he's only been five years and some 292 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: of the players. You know, he was there when Marlon 293 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: was there, he was not there when Kyle was there, 294 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: he was there when Lamar was there, was not there 295 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: when Derek came. So he's got a lot of learning 296 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: to do with the players, but he will be open 297 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: arms for sure. He's already had tons of conversations with 298 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: lots of those guys and I don't know, it's just 299 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: gonna be fun to watch. 300 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. One thing that struck me by Jesse 301 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: when he was here previously, just really smart guy. You 302 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: could tell kind of the football acum that he had 303 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: even as young coach on the staff as he worked 304 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: his way up. I'm curious from a schematic standpoint, like, 305 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: what do you think this defense is going to look 306 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: like here in Baltimore next year? 307 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: Well, if you turned on our film with the Chargers, 308 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: it'll be certainly some of that. But what Jesse has 309 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: been so good at talking earlier about using player strengths 310 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: and weaknesses. You know, we had grown into two years 311 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: here in the NFL rankings of being like one of 312 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: the most highly zoned coverage defenses there are in the league, 313 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: just on percentages and how PFF can break everything down 314 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: to a science. But you know what, that's the kind 315 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: of guys we had. We just didn't feel we had 316 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: the skill level at times to take on some of 317 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: the players that we were encountering like that has in 318 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Pittsburgh and you know, Jacksonville and all these 319 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: kind of places. So he will utilize the strengths of 320 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: his players. We didn't have some of the talent on 321 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: the back end over there, particularly when you take Derwin James, 322 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: a bonafide safety and put him on the second level, 323 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: and now he's two tom all pro by him doing that, 324 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: because he is a great second level player using what 325 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: using his strengths. He was okay on the back end, 326 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: but he was a dynamic game wrecker on the second level. 327 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: Playing Nickel and Dine that's like playing Sam and Will 328 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 2: in a base defensive system. And then that's right. So 329 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 2: I think Kyle will be the the not the toy, 330 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: but the you know, the the gadget that Jesse can 331 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: use in very very similar roles that he just used 332 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: Derwn James for two years. But you can only do that, 333 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: and I know you guys got a LOWI I don't 334 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: know what the future is for all the numbers and 335 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: the contracts, but you know we needed a pass rusher 336 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: and we got one. Oh wait, did a great job. 337 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: And you guys needed a safety and you could afford 338 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: to give it up. So it turned out to be 339 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: I think a win win for both clubs. But but Jesse, 340 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: you is the skill levels of the players at hand, 341 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: and if we need to be a four man rush, 342 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: we need to be a five man rush. We need 343 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: to spy an athletic quarterback like a Mahomes. You do that, 344 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: and you play the coveragees corresponding, if you've got number 345 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: one draft picks setting over there, which I know the 346 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 2: Ravens do, you may say, hey, dude, we need to 347 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: lock these guys down now. I mean, you take it. 348 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: Just turn out the lights and Marlon and Wiggins can 349 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: do those kind of things. So I think you'll see 350 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: a blend of whatever. Jesse, after OTAs and in the 351 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: training camp begins to measure the strengths and the concerns 352 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: for the current roster or as it turns out to be, 353 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: the roster by the fall. I think you'll seem wisely 354 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: use the strengths and the weaknesses of each players accordingly. 355 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: Can you tell us a story about when Jesse was 356 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: growing up, when you knew coaching was in his future. 357 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: A couple of things. One, my first game as a 358 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: head coach at Cincinnati ninety four was against Bill Mallory. 359 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: I know you had one of the Mallory brothers there 360 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: last year, but that was my first game nineteen ninety four, 361 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: and they we were divorced family. So I'm coming over 362 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: from Cincinnati. They're being driven down through a friend from Munsey, Indiana, 363 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: where they were living, and they were on the sideline. 364 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: Of course head coach privilege. They were on the sideline, 365 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: and Jesse starts off being my cord boy. Back in 366 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: those days, your headphones were all courted. Nowadays are of 367 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: course wireless. But so he was first to want to say, 368 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: I want to be a cord boy, you know, I 369 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 2: want to drag this quard around. But before I know it, 370 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: in the game of all the flow, we ended up 371 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: losing the game. I turned around and Jesse's gone. My 372 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: other son, Josh, his brother, his older brother, lives in 373 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: New York had the cord and that's what he liked 374 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: to do. But I saw Jesse down the sideline of ways, 375 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: just standing on the sideline watching this game with watching 376 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: full lies, and then over the next years that he'd 377 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: make all these home games down in Cincinnati with He 378 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: never carried the court again. He just wanted to be 379 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: where he could see the game. And so he goes 380 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: through his childhood. He plays all the sports. Initially he's 381 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 2: a high school football player, playing a little bit of receiver, 382 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of dB. I got to see him 383 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: play a few times due to my job and his location. 384 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: And so when he got ready to graduate from high school, 385 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: you know about his size and attributes. Physically, he wasn't 386 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 2: overly recruited. He's not going to be a big guy. 387 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: And so D three schools, D two schools were looking 388 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: at him a little bit. And so he says, well, 389 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. Dad. Do I go 390 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 2: to these little small colleges and play football and keep 391 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: my dream going. I said, you got an option here. 392 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: You can do that your mom and I'll support you greatly, 393 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: or I'll give you another option. Come to Cincinnati, work 394 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: for me, be a student. But work for me. Be 395 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: a student manager. The first year, be a video guy. 396 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: The second year, get assigned to a coach personally. The 397 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: third year. We just laid out a plan, like a 398 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: four year plan to how to get into this coaching 399 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: profession a little earlier than most kids get a chance to. 400 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 2: So without any I didn't put any pressure either way. 401 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: I said, the choice is yours, and he chose Option B. 402 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 2: He says, I want to come to Cincinnati and get 403 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: into this path. So he did. I put him in 404 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: the dorm with some players. He became a field manager, 405 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: setting up dummies and drills, and the coaches all loved 406 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: him because they knew him, and so he did this 407 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 2: the entire first season into the winter ball and then 408 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he knocks on my door one 409 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: day in the late spring and he says Dad, and 410 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: he was all teared up because he thinks he's maybe 411 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: disappointing me or something, but he says, I want to 412 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: play football. I miss it too much. I'm a competitor 413 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: and I want to play. And he knew he probably 414 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: perhaps couldn't play at our level of school there at Cincinnati, 415 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: So I said, okay, we can do that. We can 416 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 2: find a place. I said, you can either go back 417 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: to those schools that just wanted you a year ago, 418 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: or let me tell you this. There's two local schools 419 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati that are D three level schools similar 420 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: to what you were looking at, that I want you 421 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: to explore first, just on location and proximity and that 422 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: type of thing. One was the College of Mount Saint 423 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: Joe that he did choose. The other was a school 424 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: in northern Kentucky that he looked at and because of 425 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: the head coach, Rod Huber to this day, a good 426 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: friend of his and a supporter of his, convinced him 427 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: even though they were zero to ten that if he comes, 428 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: they will be champions. You know, the old coach sales pitch. 429 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: So he comes back after exploring both of those schools 430 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: and says, I found my spot. And I said, I 431 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: kept thinking, he's going to go to the school that 432 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: just went ten to zero, right, he went to the 433 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: one that went oh to ten because of the belief 434 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: in the coach. And so he goes and chooses that school, 435 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: finishes out his time that you see as an academic 436 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: first you're freshman, goes over to Cincinnati or goes over 437 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: to the Mount we call it, and is waiting in 438 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: line there to register or pre orientation or whatever that 439 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: exercise was they all had to go through to get 440 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: signed up for classes and fall registration and all that 441 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: kind of stuff, and lo and behole, he's in line 442 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: with this pretty young lady from the west side of 443 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: Cincinnati and her name is Rachel. That's that's how that started. 444 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: And it's a truly, you know, great love story because 445 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: it hasn't wavered and they've been together now over a 446 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: twenty year span, married for well over fifteen and three 447 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: beautiful children. And she is the greatest wild partner, daughter 448 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: in law, mother. I mean, she is everything and I 449 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: couldn't be more proud of her. But that was a 450 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: moment right where he chose trying to get involved in coaching, 451 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: but he wanted to play because his competitive juices were 452 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: still there. So he stays there four years, plays, had 453 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: some injuries off and on, did not have a prolific career, 454 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: but he's very involved. PJ and him were best friends. 455 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: Now he's the coordinator at Navy and then afterwards graduating 456 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: in December of five, he's looking for a job. So 457 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: I probably took him to the National Football Coaches Association 458 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 2: meeting convention every year that we have. I took him 459 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: proudly to that thing. I mean, there's ten thousand coaches there, 460 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: and I'm parading him arm in arm around all my buddies, saying, hey, 461 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: this is my son and he's wanting to go into 462 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: coaching anything you have, you know, please keep your eyes 463 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: open for him. And he sent out all kinds of letters. 464 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: He could tell you that story. He sent out tons 465 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: of letters of inquiry all these schools around the country 466 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: about hiring me as a GA or something, you know, 467 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: and he didn't get any positive responses except one place, 468 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 2: and that was Wake Forest, due to I had friends 469 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: down there. And then in the end, I worked for 470 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: Charlie Weiss by that time at Notre Dame and we 471 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: hired him at Notre Dame to be an intern. So 472 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: that allowed he and I to grow again because he 473 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: lived with me just personally, just moved right into a bedroom. 474 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: And so we did that from let's say June until 475 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: what turned out to be January February the following seven, 476 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: when Charlie lets both of us go. And now he's 477 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: back to square one. I'm back to square one. And 478 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: then his career. You know, I called Brian Kelly up, 479 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: who had just gotten the UC job, the Cincinnati job, 480 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: and he hires him as a GA. Fortunately that's right 481 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: back in Rachel's hometown. So they stayed there together for 482 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: two years, got married in between the years of eight, 483 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: and then they took off on that journey to Indiana State, 484 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: Georgia State, the Ravens and so forth and so on. 485 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: So he's had quite a journey. It's happened in a 486 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: pretty quick period of time. I've been with him, fortunately 487 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: for a lots of those stops and senior his growth, 488 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: seen his development not only as a man and a 489 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: husband and father looking at it through my eyes as 490 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: a dad, but equally as important, I've been so impressed 491 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: and amazed with this guy as a football coach. I mean, 492 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: he is so surpassed the way I looked at things. 493 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: I taught him a lot of groundwork, no doubt, but 494 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: as he's evolved into being this more modern age player 495 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: or coach, and they put that system together with the Ravens, 496 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: and he took it and ran with it and has 497 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: adapted it and shut down class receivers and led the 498 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: league in scoring defense, and he's doing something right and 499 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: I think the Ravens recognized that along with his passion 500 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 2: and football acumen and high character and integrity and hopefully, 501 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: you know, works out for everybody. 502 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Last one, Rick, is that we're gonna have a 503 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 3: chance to introduce Jesse this week during a press conference, 504 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: come out here and really just get to work and 505 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: began his next chapter as the head coach of the 506 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. What are the emotions for you and the 507 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 3: family knowing all that is is on the horizon here 508 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: the rest of this week. 509 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: Well, it'll be emotional. Uh, you know, for me, it's 510 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: just being a proud dad. I hope in the long 511 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: run I can do something for the Ravens, and I 512 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: think we can work something out perhaps to be around 513 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: and continue to be a strong advocate and a supporter 514 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: of him and the Ravens. But just as a dad, 515 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 2: it'll be a very prideful moment, and I know it 516 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: will be for all of them. It's great. You know, 517 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: he had lots of his family there who you know, 518 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 2: been around this kit forever. 519 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Rick, You're welcome. You're welcome to join 520 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: the podcast anytime. We'll offer your contract. You can take 521 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Garrett spot. Actually, you know you're You're great, Rick, so well. 522 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I've been told many a time by 523 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: lots of people. All we got to do is throw 524 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: Rick one question and we're good. 525 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: Well, it's been a pleasure. 526 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking the time. Look forward 527 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: to meeting you guys Allan. You appreciate it. 528 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: Thanks you're listening to the Lage podcast. We're coming to 529 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 3: you from the Sea Geek Studio. We want to mention 530 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 3: our partners with Draftking sports Book. 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Please drink responsibly well really enjoy 539 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: the conversation with Rick as he jokes, you know, just 540 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: just tee him up and let him roll. He he 541 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: it just entertaining guy for sure to talk to and 542 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: also has a lot of substance obviously to what he said. 543 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: I think he has a unique perspective. Of course, you're 544 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: on one hand, you wear your dad hat, and you're 545 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: he's excited for a son to get this opportunity and 546 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: see him and make the most of the chances that 547 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: he's received. And then also he's worked alongside him both 548 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 3: as is you know, as boss and us underneath him. 549 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: He's kind of had they seen the whole spectrum of 550 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: it all and had had a right hand seat to 551 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: all the success that Jesse's had in recent years. So 552 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: really value the perspective that he's had h and working 553 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: alongside him and and helping Jesse get to this point 554 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: where he's now the next day coach of the Ravens. 555 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: We're pretty spoiled him here in Baltimore with coaches fathers. Yeah, 556 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: no joke, car Ball straight to Rick Menzer this, Yeah, 557 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: we're pretty lucky. So yeah, I mean, you see why 558 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: these guys John Harball and Jesse Minner, you know, part 559 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: of the reason why they're just great coaches and great men. 560 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: You know, you you learn from from great coaches, and 561 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: I think that that that holds some weight here in Baltimore. 562 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: The Ravens saw the influence that had on John Harball 563 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: and who he was and just the foundation that he 564 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: stood on because of his father, and you just, honestly, 565 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: you just learned so much, not only just about football 566 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: and about the game, but about how to handle all 567 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: that comes with being a coach in the NFL and 568 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: a head coach even, you know, and the pressures and 569 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: how to deal with that and players and you know, 570 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: building relationships and all those different things. When you're a 571 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: coach's kid, you have that front receipt, and I think 572 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: that that is that was definitely a mark in Jesse's 573 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: favor for sure. 574 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: Now the next really important piece of business for Jesse 575 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: is going to be building out his coaching staff, and 576 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm sure that work is already well underway according to 577 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: reports that Jesse is busy at that piece of it 578 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: right now. The other part of it, too, is the 579 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: coaching carousel around the league is getting filled up here. Today, 580 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: news broke that Joe Brady is going to be the 581 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: next head coach of the Buffalo Bills. Over the weekend, 582 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: of course, it was announced like McCarthy is going to 583 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: be the next head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. At 584 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: this moment Tuesday afternoon around two thirty, still waiting on 585 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: the staff of the Browns job. But Adam Schefter reported 586 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: today that Todd Munkin is still in the mix for 587 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: that head coaching job, and also a lot of buzz 588 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: about Jim Schwartz potentially getting that job as well. So 589 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: we're still waiting on that piece. But the music, the 590 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: game of musical chairs is winding down here as a 591 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: number of these spots have been filled. And again now 592 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: the big rule for Jesse is figuring out who else 593 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: is going to be on this coaching staff. 594 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, as Rick mentioned, the offensive coordinator higher 595 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: is a very big one for Jesse Minner obviously given 596 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: his defensive background. You know, the Ravens are going to 597 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: really have be kind of hiring their leader of the offense. 598 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: And when you have a premier talent like Lamar Jackson 599 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry's a Flowers and keep going on down 600 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: the list, you know, there's a lot of potential with 601 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: this offense. And let's be honest. You know this team, 602 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson leads the players on this team, He is 603 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: the main attraction and certainly maximizing him helping him get 604 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: to an even higher level, to another level. You know, 605 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: he's already two time MVP and one of the best 606 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: in the league. But if this next offensive coordinator can 607 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: really take him to another level, and you pair that 608 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: with Jesse's defense that I think we all expect to 609 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: have a big rebound year going forward, then the Ravens 610 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: are going to be set up for a lot of success. 611 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: That's obviously the dream scenario, and we don't know at 612 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: this point who that OC is going to be. There's 613 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: been reports that the Ravens could look at some of 614 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: the candidates they've interviewed already for head coaching jobs. That 615 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: includes Davis Webb. He is the quarterbacks coach for the 616 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: Denver Broncos, game coordinator quarterbacks coaching, passing game coordinator. There's 617 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: Matt Naggy, who is the former offensive coordinator for the 618 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. There's Cliff Kingsbury, former OC for the 619 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: Washington Commanders. One name that a lot of people were 620 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: asking about was Mike McDaniel. He, of course is out 621 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: in LA just got announced and introduced today as the 622 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: OC of the Los Angeles Chargers. There's also Nathan Schielhouse, 623 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: the passing game coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams. Again, 624 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: their season ended on Sunday, so he could potentially be 625 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: someone in the mix. Now, there was a lot of 626 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: buzz about Joe Brady. Again, he took the Bills head 627 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: coaching job, so across him off the list if he 628 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: was on it. And then also the Ravens have reportedly 629 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: put in a slip to talk to Bears offensive coordinator 630 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: Declan Doyle. There's multiple reports that the Ravens have requested 631 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: to talk with him. While that would be a lateral 632 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: move in title offensive coordinator offensive coordinator, he's not the 633 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: play caller. In Chicago, Ben Johnson, their head coach, is 634 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: a play caller, so that actually is a step up 635 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: in terms of responsibility and titles, even though the actual 636 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: title is the same. 637 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: So it seems like the Ravens. Also, there's a report 638 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: that the Ravens will interview Scotty Montgomery. He's been the 639 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: assistant head coach and wide receivers coach for the Detroit Lions. 640 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so a lot of different aims on the list. 641 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: It seems like similar to the process of the way 642 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: Ravens went through and finding their head coach, they're being 643 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: exhaustive in this search and talking to a lot of 644 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 3: different candidates. I've got to believe this is a really 645 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: in demand job when knowing you have the opportunity to 646 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 3: come coach Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry and be paired 647 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: with a potentially great defense the Jesse's going to lead. 648 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a lot of candidates who 649 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: are picking up the phone looking for this opportunity. 650 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and Decklan Doyle is an interesting name. I mean, obviously, 651 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson has a reputation well earned of being one 652 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: of the sharpest offensive minds in the league, and so 653 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: then he's been very complimentary of Doyle, and so you know, 654 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: to come from that kind of true certainly, and all 655 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: the success the Bears had this year, Caleb Williams had 656 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: a huge year two that that would be an intriguing 657 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: name as well as you know Scottie Montgomery and the 658 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: other candidates the Ravens have already interviewed. 659 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the other thing that's interesting over the weekend, there's 660 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: news a couple of different reports. Jeff's Rubek concluded among 661 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: them that the Ravens are looking at hiring offensive line 662 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: coach Dwayne Ledford, who's been the Falcons run game coordinator 663 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: at offensive line coach, widely regarded as a as a 664 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 3: top notch offensive line coach and building a great running game, 665 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 3: and so offensive line I think is certainly going to 666 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: take center stage for the Ravens this offseason from a 667 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: rebuilding standpoint, that's gonna be a big area of focus 668 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: and priority I think for this team as they try 669 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: to build up that unit, and it's gonna be a 670 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 3: huge piece of the offense. It always is, but that 671 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 3: would be a move of getting a really established quality coach. 672 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: And then also there's reports that the Ravens are hiring 673 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 3: on the defensive side defensive pass game coordinator Mike Mickens 674 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: from Notre Dame as well as he would also be 675 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 3: the defensive backs coach. He worked with Kyle Hamilton at 676 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 3: Notre Dame. Uh So you're bringing somebody from the college 677 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 3: level potentially up to work alongside this defense. 678 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: So Rave reviews about Mike Mickens and the job that 679 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: he's done. I mean Notre Dame's had one of the 680 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: best secondaries in college football the past several years, just 681 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: churned out top level prospects NFL players at corner and safety. 682 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: You know a lot of Notre Dame alumni and boosters 683 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: who are pretty sad about seeing Mike Mickens leave their program. 684 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 1: And what I like about that also is Jesse Minners 685 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: turned over every stone you can. You can see that, 686 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, And so there's some over there's 687 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 1: some overlap there. Actually, Mike Mickens played for Jesse back 688 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: when Jesse a long time ago, back at Cincinnati, and 689 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 1: then they also crosspaths coaching together, so there's a connection there. 690 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: But I like that Jesse's you know, he's casting a 691 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: wide net of his own and saying, hey, I know 692 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: this guy from college at Notre Dame. He's one of 693 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: the top coaches. Let's let's bring him in, you know. 694 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: So I think that's a really good sign. There's also 695 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: reports that the Ravens are interested in Joe Cullen for 696 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator job, and that they've reportedly completed an 697 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: interview with him. Joe Cullen raven Stans will probably remember, 698 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: was there the Ravens defensive line coach here from twenty 699 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty twenty, so he overlapped with Jesse Minner 700 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: colin defensive lineman here love playing for him LEAs Campbell, 701 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, down the list a bunch of guys and so, 702 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, well respected coach. Certainly he's been out in 703 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: Kansas City the last several years, and so potentially bring 704 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: him in. As Rick talked about, I would probably expect 705 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: that Jesse's going to be the play caller for the 706 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: defense and whatnot. But still the defensive coordinator job is 707 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: a really important job obviously, and so yeah, so that's 708 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: I think an intriguing name to watch there. And then 709 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: Jesse's also going to have to hire a new specialty 710 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: US coaches all reports so that Chris Horton has following 711 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: John Harball up in New York. 712 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you talk to Rick and he rattles names 713 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: off of guys that he's worked with and known or 714 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 3: coached over the last fifty years, and you get a 715 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: sense that the network is vast. And so that's Rick's network, 716 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: which Jesse of course could tap into. But I think 717 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 3: that it gives you an idea of the way that 718 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: Jesse can navigate the coaching landscape and have a feel 719 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 3: for all of these different guys and we're seeing that 720 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 3: in the reports of who he is interviewing and bringing 721 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 3: here to Baltimore. So again, why net lots of different 722 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 3: contacts at all different levels of the sport professional college 723 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 3: and so I'm excited to see how the staff gets 724 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 3: built out. Again, we're gonna get a chance to talk 725 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 3: with Jesse in more detail coming up later this week 726 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 3: on Thursday, he's going to be introduced for his press 727 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 3: conference Thursday mornings schedule for eleven thirty am. You'll be 728 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 3: able to watch it on the Ravens app website, YouTube channel, 729 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 3: Facebook page. We're gonna have all sorts of content around 730 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 3: his arrival here in baltim More and the press conference 731 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 3: this week. So we're fired up. I think as more 732 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: time has passed, I get more and more excited about 733 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 3: what he's going to bring to this team, to this defense, 734 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 3: to this organization. And I think it's going to be 735 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 3: a great hire that Ravens fans are really going to 736 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 3: come to love over the course of his tenure. So 737 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: as always, you can email us at the lounge at 738 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 3: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you so much for listening. 739 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 3: We will be back with you again on Thursday. After 740 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 3: that presser