Speaker 1: And That's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. We
Speaker 1: are recapping. Hello Kevin, Hello, and hello Tally Oh, our
Speaker 1: dear friend is here.
Speaker 3: So happy to be back on the pod.
Speaker 1: We are so happy to have you here to recap
Speaker 1: this weird episode.
Speaker 2: So as it happened, Kelly and I are together in Vegas,
Speaker 2: and you know, I was going to have to leave
Speaker 2: our group to come do this, and I was like,
Speaker 2: you want to come, come do this?
Speaker 3: I got nothing to do, and so he walked tested.
Speaker 2: Because Kelly also has a very important perspective in perspective
Speaker 2: because he was in the writer's room during this, and
Speaker 2: so you remember all of the shenanigans and debacles and
Speaker 2: things also the things that we may not know. And
Speaker 2: Jenna was not on the show.
Speaker 1: Now, yes, that's right, I wasn't here. Okay, wait, let's
Speaker 1: get through all of the news and all that fun
Speaker 1: stuff so we can interrogate Kelly for all of his secrets.
Speaker 2: So notes, by the way, and took notes.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't wait. All right, So this is season five,
Speaker 1: episode sixteen. This is Tested and this aired on April fifteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, the.
Speaker 2: Number one song in the country was still Happy. It's
Speaker 2: just I think it's literally like ten weeks at.
Speaker 1: Number one or it's fine, and the number one movie
Speaker 1: is still Captain America Winter Soldier, as it should be.
Speaker 2: And now the new format for every episode is to
Speaker 2: release a digital ep like that was some big revolutionary yeah, totally,
Speaker 2: featuring four tracks from the episode for digital download only.
Speaker 1: And on April fifteen, the Ryan did a Q and
Speaker 1: A with some press outlets discussing them last few episodes
Speaker 1: of Scenism five and he gave a preview of what's
Speaker 1: to come in season six. Okay, so he talked about
Speaker 1: how they had to pivot after Corey's death, of course,
Speaker 1: and the writers decided to shift the show to New
Speaker 1: York or deciding to shift the show to New York
Speaker 1: gave them a fresh start and allowed Glee to return
Speaker 1: to its roots, which now after watching the last few episodes,
Speaker 1: I agree. He also said that the final season is
Speaker 1: really its own story and its own location, and while
Speaker 1: the New York step will be alive, the final season
Speaker 1: is not New York centric at all, and he noted
Speaker 1: there will be a time jump for the final episodes,
Speaker 1: which like after it feels a little erratic. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you feel like this, because we did find
Speaker 1: our roots again in this like New York spinoff esque
Speaker 1: back season five, and like it's so good and focused
Speaker 1: and clear and like we love everybody, and the storylines
Speaker 1: are like, oh, there's time to let them breathe and
Speaker 1: like there's enough forever, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's like it's not that at all. Let's go to
Speaker 1: season Yeah, do you remember confusing?
Speaker 3: It was like I don't. I do remember that sort
Speaker 3: of shift, and I think because there was the split, right,
Speaker 3: the graduation split that happened in season three four? Oh, yes,
Speaker 3: season three, and then so I do remember that sense
Speaker 3: of like, okay, let's get these kids out of school,
Speaker 3: like who was still there. Let's like kind of wrap
Speaker 3: that up and then and then like sort of explore
Speaker 3: this New York thing. This is This was a trend
Speaker 3: always with the writers room and with Ryan. He just
Speaker 3: it was like always just he would pull that out
Speaker 3: of his brain without but sometimes with very little explanation.
Speaker 3: So he kind of just come in and be like,
Speaker 3: this is what we're gonna do now.
Speaker 1: So you know.
Speaker 3: It's like even though like him saying like in the press,
Speaker 3: like this is what season six is going to be,
Speaker 3: It's like that kind of stuff is always just I
Speaker 3: think percolating in his mind more so something he's bringing
Speaker 3: forth like you learn it, yeah, yeah, kind and that's
Speaker 3: not in any kind of nefarious way. It's just because
Speaker 3: he I think that's just how he works.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean we've talked about that too.
Speaker 2: When he's rewritten scenes on the spot or anything like that,
Speaker 2: his brain is always just.
Speaker 3: There would be like there would be days and days
Speaker 3: of trying to break a story and it's just not
Speaker 3: coming out right, and just redoing it, and then after
Speaker 3: three days he'd just come in and he'd be like,
Speaker 3: this is what we're gonna do, and it would be
Speaker 3: like everything makes sense the right. Yeah, So there was
Speaker 3: definitely I definitely remember the energy of like let's shift
Speaker 3: more into this New York thing, Let's put them in
Speaker 3: in more like these like you said, there's more time,
Speaker 3: there's more space for things to reade. It's like more
Speaker 3: like a real life application. You're not like in the
Speaker 3: microcosm of this school.
Speaker 2: Enjoyed getting to do that.
Speaker 3: I think there was definitely definitely an energy of like, okay,
Speaker 3: we're we can tell some adult storylines. We can't get
Speaker 3: these people into some like you know that we can start,
Speaker 3: their careers can begin, rather than it just being sort
Speaker 3: of in the in the microcosm of the school.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of adult conversations, this episode is mature, So.
Speaker 2: With adult conversations. Oh yeah, Palm the crane is back
Speaker 2: to direct this. And I really enjoyed working with.
Speaker 1: Paul because like a second time around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Paul is like a very steady hand. He
Speaker 2: wasn't there all the time. He came in like pretty infrequently. Yes,
Speaker 2: but I will say too, I'll speak to the I
Speaker 2: liked him because the vibe on set. It was towards
Speaker 2: the end of a difficult year. You start to get
Speaker 2: a bit of senior itis, everybody does, and I distinctly
Speaker 2: remember him coming in and just being like.
Speaker 3: We're still at work.
Speaker 2: This is what we're doing.
Speaker 3: Had a vision kind of.
Speaker 1: Like the way he did it when he came in
Speaker 1: earlier on, when he did Public Master with us. I
Speaker 1: mean that was actually earlier on, but the same vibe
Speaker 1: we need for sure.
Speaker 2: It was very and I think people were shocked because
Speaker 2: he's not like one of our oldest friends that come
Speaker 2: in there, because you know, we had great relationships with
Speaker 2: so many directors and he was newer, and so having
Speaker 2: somebody come in like as you know, we reference it
Speaker 2: like to our own home and then it's sort of
Speaker 2: like correcting the ship was a shock for some people,
Speaker 2: and I think it was very good.
Speaker 1: I just want to note also before we get into
Speaker 1: the episode, there was a Variety article that came out
Speaker 1: this month and it it pegged the one hundred greatest
Speaker 1: TV performances of the twenty first century, and Naya Rivera
Speaker 1: is one of those one hundred.
Speaker 2: Number seventy eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, seventy eight.
Speaker 2: Girl deserved should be higher. But also there's think about
Speaker 2: this too. This is in the era of streaming where
Speaker 2: there's more TV than ever.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like that, then it's a crowded
Speaker 1: space and for her to make that mark is actually remarkable.
Speaker 3: And they only pack one from each show, Yeah, one
Speaker 3: character from each show, and I think it's very I
Speaker 3: think that in a lot of ways, there's so many
Speaker 3: I think Glee's strength is its characters and its breadth
Speaker 3: of characters, and that's like really, I think what excites
Speaker 3: people about it, But when you look at the whole show,
Speaker 3: I think when it comes to Santana, there's like a
Speaker 3: real that's like a really important through line and arc.
Speaker 3: I think she's kind of the character that changes the
Speaker 3: most that you you know, at the beginning, you know
Speaker 3: she's she's kind of starts as a stock mean girl.
Speaker 3: Then by the end of it, she is, you know,
Speaker 3: as intro complex as anyone ever was. And you know
Speaker 3: when you look at like Rachel and Mercedes and you know,
Speaker 3: Tina and Artie and Kurt, these characters are they kind
Speaker 3: of are they grow it, but they don't change. They're
Speaker 3: more contained. Yeah, they they're who they are always. And
Speaker 3: I think with Santana, I'm very glad they highlighted Santana
Speaker 3: and Naya, but Santana because I think there's there's so
Speaker 3: much goes on in her, you know, coming to terms
Speaker 3: with her queer identity and yeah, and really like becoming
Speaker 3: a star and knowing star as someone who comes from
Speaker 3: the back is I think it's just uh, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: glad they highlighted that, and I think it's well deserved.
Speaker 2: And testing it to Naya's abilities as an actor, because
Speaker 2: I mean, as we'd tell you, like as we've gotten
Speaker 2: to like New York episodes, how good she is at
Speaker 2: everything comedy, drama, singing. Obviously everybody is, but like.
Speaker 1: Put her up against Leah too, like they're going head
Speaker 1: to head in this entire season, and like they just
Speaker 1: make each other better because they're so they're both excellent.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the songs we have Addicted to
Speaker 1: Love and that's performed by Arty.
Speaker 2: I want to know what love is performed by Mercedes
Speaker 2: and the church choir.
Speaker 1: Love is a Battlefield by Blaine and Kurt, and.
Speaker 2: Let's Wait a While performed by Arti and Mercedes with
Speaker 2: Sam and Julie.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3: That was funny. That really did come in at the end, there,
Speaker 3: didn't they with their little.
Speaker 2: Groups so funny when we get to that, I haven't
Speaker 2: I have memories for filming that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we're going to get into this
Speaker 1: episode and there's just so much for you to share.
Speaker 1: Kevin and obviously Telly behind the scenes what was happening,
Speaker 1: But like because there's there's there's like very clear storylines,
Speaker 1: but like I want to hear about Kevin's experience in this.
Speaker 1: So this episode marked Kurt's hundredth appearance. Everybody's trucking along.
Speaker 1: Now everybody's making their hundred and.
Speaker 2: The apartment scene where Artie informs the guys of his STD.
Speaker 2: The end credits of Glee, specifically Frenemies can be seen
Speaker 2: on the t.
Speaker 3: That's in my notes.
Speaker 2: I got that.
Speaker 3: I've noticed that too.
Speaker 1: That's great. I didn't see that. That's really funny. During
Speaker 1: the original broadcast of this episode, Leah, Darren, Court and
Speaker 1: Ryan tweeted live because that's what we were doing.
Speaker 3: That is so funny. I didn't mean to the point.
Speaker 2: It was detrimental, to the point where like people would
Speaker 2: be taken out of scenes to have to go like
Speaker 2: sit in the office, and it was such a problem. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was so weird. Anyway, this episode marked the end
Speaker 2: of my streak. Every episode since the premiere, I would
Speaker 2: be absent from the next two episodes, as well as
Speaker 2: multiple episodes. Kevin, Wow, this is the time we've talked
Speaker 2: about it. Where I Paul Ryan months before this asked
Speaker 2: if I could do a movie.
Speaker 3: He said yes.
Speaker 2: Not everybody in production was stoked about that because it
Speaker 2: would be an issue to work out the schedule. It
Speaker 2: was not thrown down the chain like it was supposed
Speaker 2: to be, and I was supposed to be off this
Speaker 2: week because.
Speaker 1: I was working based on what we recapped last week.
Speaker 1: It seems like they thought last week you were supposed
Speaker 1: to be off.
Speaker 2: Yes, because I was barely in that episode, and I
Speaker 2: was one of the main storylines in this episode, which
Speaker 2: I think you can see, and what I will critically
Speaker 2: say of myself not the greatest performance because I was
Speaker 2: stretched so that I was in Connecticut, flying to LA
Speaker 2: doing those weekend things, and then we were also doing
Speaker 2: exteriors in New York at the exact same time.
Speaker 1: You're very you used to be very solid deprecating, and
Speaker 1: you still are, but not quite as badly. I'm worrying,
Speaker 1: and and not even on the show, like I feel
Speaker 1: like as we rewatched, like we've actually taken more credit
Speaker 1: where it's due. That we were working hard and we
Speaker 1: were like, okay, I could watch that again, like that
Speaker 1: that's fine. Now we don't like to watch ourselves. But
Speaker 1: I think you did grain this episode. I would never
Speaker 1: have known. I never would have known, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it was interesting and different and like everybody was involved,
Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed this whole boy storyline that was
Speaker 1: kind of driven by Artie's STDs.
Speaker 2: It was really fun to we were not getting into
Speaker 2: this now, I guess, but it was. It was very
Speaker 2: fun to film with all the boys because that didn't
Speaker 2: normally happen and we were all New York together.
Speaker 1: And we you know, it is different, like we don't
Speaker 1: get to see that, like you see boys versus girls, right,
Speaker 1: like we've seen that throughout through the test of time. Ugly,
Speaker 1: but like to watch a whole storyline, like an a
Speaker 1: storyline happened with just the guys and like Leah's in
Speaker 1: one scene I think in this whole episode. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's really fun. And you guys got to go Serendipity.
Speaker 2: It was a full day at Serendipity.
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I'm so jas.
Speaker 2: I had never been before, so that's one of those threes.
Speaker 2: So I had to come in from Connecticut. I think
Speaker 2: they had to start filmed something earlier than if I
Speaker 2: remember correctly. Then we shot those two scenes in Serendipity
Speaker 2: the back half of the day because I wasn't be
Speaker 2: able to make it earlier.
Speaker 1: Okay, before we get into the too, tell you I'm
Speaker 1: curious to hear, like what was going on in the
Speaker 1: writer's room, Like was.
Speaker 2: There any talk of the scheduling?
Speaker 3: Oh no, okay, yeah, this this scheduling debacle feels to
Speaker 3: me like indicative of the follies of Glee and the
Speaker 3: so many balls in the air that summer bound to
Speaker 3: be dropped somewhere along the line. You know, this is
Speaker 3: later in the season. I think, what episode is this
Speaker 3: in the season? Yeah, sixteen, So we're like getting we're
Speaker 3: in the back half now, and the writer's room was
Speaker 3: like a log jam at this point. So it's like
Speaker 3: we are we are putting out acts of the next
Speaker 3: episode while we're rewriting and finishing the previous one. And
Speaker 3: you know, it's like there would be times when we're
Speaker 3: filling like three episodes at once. Yeah, kind of finishing this,
Speaker 3: doing that, getting that, because the songs all have to
Speaker 3: be cleared, and then there's a union in New York,
Speaker 3: and then there's a unit in a back in LA
Speaker 3: and so you know, at this time, it's like I
Speaker 3: was the script coordinator, so I was balanced. I was
Speaker 3: juggling many scripts at a time, yes, and you know,
Speaker 3: and then revisions and then this and that, so It's
Speaker 3: hard to pinpoint exactly like what was going on with
Speaker 3: this episode because this was sort of the time of
Speaker 3: year where everything was happening, things were moving, we were
Speaker 3: getting to the end of the season, trying to land
Speaker 3: the plane.
Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure, I remember it was ever hectic.
Speaker 3: It was just that we had to keep we had
Speaker 3: to keep a balance, We had to keep things, we
Speaker 3: had to keep things clear, everything, We had to know
Speaker 3: what we.
Speaker 1: Were doing well, and to shoot multiple episodes because you're
Speaker 1: in New York. You have to take advantage of so
Speaker 1: many talent being in.
Speaker 2: New York at what you need. You need the episode
Speaker 2: in advance.
Speaker 3: Yes, strong, right, So this was yeah, we would I
Speaker 3: remember too. I think there were maybe two or three
Speaker 3: New York units, but it was we kind of have
Speaker 3: to get a few episodes up and then and then
Speaker 3: you know, plan the week in New York and shoot
Speaker 3: a few of those all at once.
Speaker 1: Got it.
Speaker 2: The official Fox publicity summary for this is when the
Speaker 2: boys get tested for STDs. Already tests positive for a
Speaker 2: disease and he's forced to tell his sexual partners. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Kurt and Blaine have relationship issues when Blaine puts on
Speaker 2: his freshman fifteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's three big storylines here, like really big storylines,
Speaker 1: and they all intertwine in some way, which which is
Speaker 1: why I appreciate these the smaller cast, the more focused storylines,
Speaker 1: because they're intertwining. But they have their own thing, like
Speaker 1: already you have your own thing at school. Sam's dealing
Speaker 1: with the STD thing, but then also Mercedes, and then
Speaker 1: Blaine's also there but dealing also with Kurt and feeling insecure,
Speaker 1: and they're all really beautiful. Thought, everybody's performances were excellent
Speaker 1: in this this episode. So Kevin Arty is a ladies man,
Speaker 1: so I guess like you have found your stride. Yes,
Speaker 1: rolling down those hallways.
Speaker 3: A new set.
Speaker 2: We love, a new set. I felt very important because
Speaker 2: that set was built for Artie and that yes, that
Speaker 2: was an La got it and so addicted to Love
Speaker 2: was in La downtown in La As. My story about this,
Speaker 2: and I've referenced it before, is that when I was
Speaker 2: doing that montage and addicted to love of cooking up
Speaker 2: with all the girls in my dorm room, that's when
Speaker 2: Roger the ad came over to me and said, Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift is here. What and if you see some of
Speaker 2: those shots. We were going very quickly. All the girls
Speaker 2: were there. I was, you know, like switching one wolf
Speaker 2: butter for another. It's hot under those lights. I was
Speaker 2: a little stanky with the wools, you know, sweaty comb
Speaker 2: over happening. And then Roger Taylor Swift is here and
Speaker 2: like we had known each like we knew each other. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and and.
Speaker 3: Everybody is dead silent.
Speaker 2: I've like, everyone is so eerily quiet. I look up.
Speaker 2: I'm like where like I knew. I thought maybe she
Speaker 2: was like on Paramount and she wanted to see us,
Speaker 2: Like fine, he said no, no, right behind me, he moves
Speaker 2: and she just peaks around and it's like, hey ah,
Speaker 2: she was filming something on one of the other stages.
Speaker 2: And so then like you know, we hug, we chat
Speaker 2: for a little bit, and then I'm so like weird,
Speaker 2: I'm doing all these weird gesticulations because I'm like, I
Speaker 2: probably smell. I became so self conscious. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: that was going on. And it was like a really
Speaker 2: small unit because it was just like a little set
Speaker 2: with so it was not like at the full crew.
Speaker 2: Did make me feel very famous, like Taylor fifty and
Speaker 2: I'm in my head, I'm like I'm so sorry, I'm
Speaker 2: the only one here. Like, I know you probably wanted
Speaker 2: to see like somebody else, but like I'm well she.
Speaker 1: Was like friends with like actual friends with like a
Speaker 1: bunch of our casts.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's super nice and like cool and yeah no
Speaker 2: we chatted crack some jokes and I.
Speaker 1: Just wow, that's exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: I loved that. I feel like that was the Glease
Speaker 3: set sometimes felt like a clubhouse in that way where
Speaker 3: it's like people would just roll up and roll in
Speaker 3: and totally totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah did in one direction, like why aren't they shooting
Speaker 1: on there for a little while? Or am I am?
Speaker 1: I like crazy?
Speaker 2: Well what happened is around like the VMA's and a
Speaker 2: war that people would shoot certain things for those or
Speaker 2: touring footage. You when people have like the screen the
Speaker 2: footage on the screen that the use for tours, they soundstages,
Speaker 2: and sometimes they'd be a paramount and so they would
Speaker 2: sort of come over or we'd hear about it and like, oh,
Speaker 2: well we know them, and we would try to go.
Speaker 1: Implement find them, right, get on the golf cart and
Speaker 1: find them.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So Addicted to love was great, Kevin. I really liked
Speaker 1: it that was really fun. It seemed like there was
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts though to do that, and
Speaker 1: like a lot of like little bits of segments shot
Speaker 1: here and there and everywhere.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm critical of my performance because and addicted
Speaker 2: to love. I'm like Luke Edgemond had me like singing
Speaker 2: from You're singing and like recording that was so hard
Speaker 2: but also so satisfying. But the effort and Amber is
Speaker 2: really good at this because Amber can sing with zero
Speaker 2: effort and sounds so good.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 2: The effort was you'll act it out. The effort was
Speaker 2: not on my face.
Speaker 1: I got it, I saying yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And there was one shot literally I have all these
Speaker 2: dancers around me and we're downtown and I'm lit. It's
Speaker 2: like I'm a star of the show, right, and there's
Speaker 2: nothing happening on my face. My face is not moving.
Speaker 2: And last night and I was watching it, like I'm
Speaker 2: so tired, so I'm trying. I probably thought I was
Speaker 2: giving something. I probably was trying my hardest, but nothing show. No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't I actually I didn't notice that.
Speaker 1: I thought you did great. And I also think that
Speaker 1: you know more than we know. You know what I mean, like,
Speaker 1: you know, more like I would have been like, yes,
Speaker 1: he produces those vocals looking like that, because like it's TV.
Speaker 2: Oh I wish I created those vocals at ease with
Speaker 2: my face just like this is nothing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was dying in that recording booth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was hard and that sounded great. It
Speaker 1: was a great opening number if you asked me.
Speaker 3: I love Also, it's like it's like classic Arty in
Speaker 3: a way or two right, so it's like it's okay,
Speaker 3: it feels a little effortless because at this point it's
Speaker 3: like it just felt like right in the wheelhouse, like
Speaker 3: this is what we expect from already love it.
Speaker 1: You know, so Artie is dating Vanessa and Jessica, but
Speaker 1: his real love is Julie, who is doing the narration
Speaker 1: of his short film. What a pretentious dick. I just
Speaker 1: love it because I can't imagine being in the writer's
Speaker 1: room for that being like it just laughing, like how
Speaker 1: how pretentious this all was? I filmed school. It's so
Speaker 1: much fun.
Speaker 2: I also we got to film that in the editing room. Oh.
Speaker 1: We went to a real like one of.
Speaker 2: The actual editing base of Glee. It was like one
Speaker 2: of those like buildings, and it was on a Saturday,
Speaker 2: and I felt I also just need to say, if
Speaker 2: there's any crew that listened to this, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 2: felt so like guilty and personally responsible for us having
Speaker 2: to work Saturdays. Even though the scheduling conflict was not.
Speaker 1: My your fault.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still felt responsible for because those are our family.
Speaker 1: I know, I get it, but it was really wasn't
Speaker 1: your fault, Like nobody you you got approved, they said, yes,
Speaker 1: that's I know, Ryan, and then your pay grade so help.
Speaker 2: Like Ryan was so great about anytime I passed him
Speaker 2: on the lot, He's like, are you good? Is everything scheduled?
Speaker 1: Like he was constantly like I'm barely alive, I'm barely breathing,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you made it work, you know.
Speaker 2: But he personally really pushed it through, and I obviously
Speaker 2: that was that's great. I wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 2: do that if he had not done that.
Speaker 1: So everybody thinks that everybody's gonna go get tested. You
Speaker 1: I'll go to Serendipity, which is, if you don't know,
Speaker 1: like a famous tourist spot in New York where you
Speaker 1: get the famous frozen hot chocolate. Used to go in college.
Speaker 1: It was like a big treat and you guys got
Speaker 1: to shoot there, which I was very jealous about.
Speaker 3: I also just love the idea of these for it
Speaker 3: like like young adult, like let's go to Serendipity.
Speaker 1: And Blaine trying to feed Kurt this chocolate, Like, wholease
Speaker 1: eat it?
Speaker 2: It's so and the truth is that Kevin is Blaine
Speaker 2: in this episode.
Speaker 1: Fully did you get to eat the hot chocolate?
Speaker 2: I had never been to Serendipity before, damn and so on.
Speaker 2: They kept bringing us new ones every take because I
Speaker 2: have fresh and you you know, I was in there
Speaker 2: every time. I left that place so bloated. I'm severely
Speaker 2: lack close intolerant. They are delicious, though, I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: not sewing me down today. It was like the second
Speaker 2: scene when we're there at the end of the episode
Speaker 2: and they bring me that like one with the banana
Speaker 2: in it. That whole scene we were fully out of character.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's Kevin and I'm like no, like
Speaker 2: I was not.
Speaker 1: You guys are having a good time.
Speaker 2: See another location, so we're going to use it a
Speaker 2: couple of times.
Speaker 1: You are going to use it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Square Park, so already finds out that you all go
Speaker 1: get tested and then already actually is the one called
Speaker 1: back because and you find out you have chlamythia, you
Speaker 1: have an SDD because you haven't been using protection in
Speaker 1: your early twenties. Like I don't know what world you
Speaker 1: were living in in two thousand and eight, but like
Speaker 1: everybody was using protection by that point, at least in
Speaker 1: my world.
Speaker 2: Yes, No, that's what I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: what was wrong with him.
Speaker 1: Especially with like you're sleeping with multiple people. Yeah, not
Speaker 1: even like your girlfriend, Like, oh, it's not just kiddy.
Speaker 2: Like what he's got it? But he's always had issues
Speaker 2: with women.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, totally.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know how to operate, to function properly with
Speaker 2: I think it's just he's easily and if anyone likes him,
Speaker 2: he likes them, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the whole date thing with Julie because like
Speaker 1: obviously she said she doesn't work, which sweet Stephanie, she's
Speaker 1: so good in this. I love her so I think
Speaker 1: she's so interesting to watch and so fun. But like
Speaker 1: she says, no, she doesn't date anybody she works with,
Speaker 1: and then she may changes her mind after already finds
Speaker 1: out he has comdia and you have this you are
Speaker 1: this std which we will get to, and she decided,
Speaker 1: she's like, let's go out. So you guys go on
Speaker 1: a date, but you're like extremely paranoid about it. Now,
Speaker 1: how do you operate as already in that scene where
Speaker 1: you're like I'm talking about like assuming that we're gonna
Speaker 1: have sex, yeah, on a first date. I know you're
Speaker 1: in college. I get it, you're in college, but like,
Speaker 1: how do you operate like that? And just how do
Speaker 1: you make that work?
Speaker 2: I think he's just he's spiraling. He's fully spiraling because
Speaker 2: I also love of the like slapstick comedy of the
Speaker 2: hearing anything related to STIs when he watched The Diner
Speaker 2: and Chris just being so straight delivering those lines.
Speaker 1: So good.
Speaker 2: My favorite Arty is already spiraling, Like that's great. That
Speaker 2: is my favorite one to play, and like him trying
Speaker 2: to like think he's being considerate bringing up sex in
Speaker 2: advance because he's just been houring so he thinks everybody's
Speaker 2: the same way he is, right right? How good is she?
Speaker 3: So good?
Speaker 2: So funny, She's so good and.
Speaker 1: Unassuming, very just really really interesting, And I thought she
Speaker 1: was a great pairing for you.
Speaker 2: I had her back because she was I'm dying.
Speaker 1: To know about this suit. Now. I thought you wore
Speaker 1: this once in Washington Square, Park. I didn't realize this
Speaker 1: makes an epic return. Multiple times in this episode.
Speaker 3: Heat appeared.
Speaker 2: I had fittings and it was not comfortable. It was
Speaker 2: pretty stiff. It smelled like the inside of a new
Speaker 2: like inner tube.
Speaker 1: Did they have to fit it like around the chair
Speaker 1: in the chair?
Speaker 2: Like do they have to consider that on me?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: It was the one the image that you had in
Speaker 2: your head of Washing Square.
Speaker 3: Park.
Speaker 2: I also noticed I'm wearing my own coat in that
Speaker 2: shot because it was so cold and already didn't have
Speaker 2: a jacket, and I was like, I'm wearing mine.
Speaker 1: These guys all look really cold in this episode, like
Speaker 1: when Cord when you guys are doing the Janet song
Speaker 1: and Chord is down by the river breath Jennet, I
Speaker 1: could see their.
Speaker 3: Brass we had in the water in the winter.
Speaker 2: It was a big conversation. They gave us long john
Speaker 2: so we all had long Johns under everything we were wearing.
Speaker 2: We had those human pads eating and the pockets of
Speaker 2: everything that we were wearing. But those only last so long.
Speaker 2: Then they ran out and then it was like I
Speaker 2: remember being in those trailers outside that carousel in Brooklyn
Speaker 2: and we were all just like don't calls to the
Speaker 2: very last second, please please. The heat was turned up
Speaker 2: all the way in the trailers, like we're fragile, we're
Speaker 2: not used to New York.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of like the Super Bowl episode when
Speaker 1: we were shooting at night and they had those heaters
Speaker 1: and then like Michael Mally's jacket like lin on Bier,
Speaker 1: because he was like too close to the heater. No,
Speaker 1: it would be like up again, our cheeks would be
Speaker 1: like up against that heater. I can't even imagine shooting
Speaker 1: in the winter in New York.
Speaker 2: Because you're out there and you're on the water, so
Speaker 2: there's a breeze and it is.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Y'alla did a good job though, because
Speaker 1: while you were performing that number, like I didn't, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't see it on you like you did a
Speaker 1: great job.
Speaker 2: That me the interesting thing about that scene. I wanted
Speaker 2: to see if either of you caught it. But it's.
Speaker 3: Julie's reaction to what's happening. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I was like fully expecting her to be like, I'm
Speaker 3: out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you all.
Speaker 2: Are weird because she's like, we were having that because
Speaker 2: we're so used to we all sing all the time.
Speaker 2: The characters are singing all the time, and when things
Speaker 2: a music columba breaks out in real life when we're
Speaker 2: not in a parent setting, we've never questioned it and
Speaker 2: we don't ask what this looks like to everybody else,
Speaker 2: like is it in our heads? Is it a dream sequence?
Speaker 2: Like we don't really know? And all who doesn't do
Speaker 2: the show often, and with Stephanie, who this is her
Speaker 2: first episode, there was this conversation of like, do I
Speaker 2: acknowledge that he's singing at me about that's wait a
Speaker 2: while after I just told him I don't want to
Speaker 2: have sex, but now he's singing about right, And I
Speaker 2: think Paul was like, yeah, react, like how you would
Speaker 2: react if something they just started singing at you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I really.
Speaker 1: Joyed it because we don't often have a character that's
Speaker 1: not in our world join the world for the whole
Speaker 1: episode like that. It's very uncommon. Yes, she did great.
Speaker 2: The break of like her being like what the is
Speaker 2: going on? And then cut to her singing.
Speaker 1: I bet even better.
Speaker 3: That as like a yeah. I was like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is very funny that these people are just singing the
Speaker 3: middle of the night walking around.
Speaker 1: Well, good job, Kevin, thank you, yes, very good.
Speaker 2: When I'm in that diner scene the date that is
Speaker 2: when so Andrew Brooks was a PA on the show.
Speaker 2: He's now a producer. He worked on Modern Family. He
Speaker 2: was the new Telly, the new Megan. And because I
Speaker 2: was so tired I had I had come from the
Speaker 2: airport straight to set to film that scene, and my
Speaker 2: brain was so fried that that whole little conversation that
Speaker 2: I have with her about sex, I couldn't retain, Like
Speaker 2: my brain was you, I'm sure you've had this happen
Speaker 2: to you, like so tired that it does not stick YEP.
Speaker 2: It had never happened to me on the.
Speaker 3: Show like that.
Speaker 1: That was my problem one.
Speaker 2: So I had so literally the camera would be like
Speaker 2: sound speed rolling, and I'm like, Andrew, say say it
Speaker 2: to me, and so he would he would come in
Speaker 2: and he would say the speech to me. I'd repeat
Speaker 2: it back really quickly and like okay, go and then
Speaker 2: they would call action and I would have to just
Speaker 2: get it out and then and then between each take
Speaker 2: I had him come back because I couldn't get through it.
Speaker 2: I was staring at her and I'm like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't no like there's there's And then you
Speaker 1: get like frustrated at yourself too, so like the emotion
Speaker 1: and the frustration and then the panic that you're like
Speaker 1: everybody's looking at me, just get it out there. All
Speaker 1: want me to just like get this so we can
Speaker 1: go home and move on, is like it's it's stabilitating.
Speaker 2: Well, but that's when having a great relationship with the
Speaker 2: crew comes into play, because I was always you know,
Speaker 2: I like the secrets and gossip and so I was
Speaker 2: always very like tapped into how the crew was feeling,
Speaker 2: and so when it was going on, I was very
Speaker 2: communicative about because if somebody had shown up and done that, it's.
Speaker 3: Like, well, why did you agree to you this movie?
Speaker 2: If you can't do both of these jobs like that
Speaker 2: is unprofessional and so I never want to be that person.
Speaker 2: And in my memory, I was trying to like to
Speaker 2: those that was closest to be like I'm so sorry, yeah,
Speaker 2: barely hanging on. I'm going to try to get this
Speaker 2: as quickly as possible, so I do not keep you
Speaker 2: here because it was also the last end of the day.
Speaker 1: It's also very of course it was last ye day.
Speaker 1: It's very out of character for you. So like everybody
Speaker 1: would be the most forgiving for Kevin because you are
Speaker 1: friends of the whole crew. You respect them so deeply.
Speaker 1: You don't act out, you know what I mean, You're
Speaker 1: there for them. So like everybody's like, okay, you just
Speaker 1: have to remember that. It's hard to remember in that moment,
Speaker 1: of course, but like people are like very I'm sure
Speaker 1: very forgiving of you.
Speaker 2: That's what you know. It was nice to remember that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know they know me. Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 2: I'm being irresponsible, Like I'm just having a night, Like
Speaker 2: thanks for dealing with me.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about these other storylines. So Kurt and Blaine, uh,
Speaker 1: this whole montage of Blaine like living for all of
Speaker 1: this food. I was like, are they talking to me?
Speaker 1: Because the three of us love to eat so wow,
Speaker 1: And it is true in New York, like you can
Speaker 1: get anything in the tip of your fingers and the
Speaker 1: freshman fifteen. I don't know if that's like not like
Speaker 1: PC to say anymore. I don't know, but I at
Speaker 1: the time, it was such a thing. Right, you go
Speaker 1: to college and everybody happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a new relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the love, the love handles. Yeah, some people are
Speaker 1: like yeah, happy and you know what I mean, it happens,
Speaker 1: but Blaine gets the freshman fifteen. My favorite scene of
Speaker 1: that whole thing was when Kurt is now getting in
Speaker 1: shape in class and everybody's complementing him and Blaine is
Speaker 1: eating those chet pups and the.
Speaker 3: Dust is ever wear that sweater and like on the
Speaker 3: bench and like it was just like whoa, Like the
Speaker 3: prop department must have had all of that cheeto doest
Speaker 3: because I was like, I don't think A really, I
Speaker 3: don't think the biggest bag of Cheetos would produce this.
Speaker 2: Also, in what world are you allowed to do? Like
Speaker 2: in class you're in a stage combat? No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's just sitting there watching his like Muscley boyfriend. I mean,
Speaker 2: let's talk about that for a second. Kurt with the
Speaker 2: body tea he really.
Speaker 1: What is the deal? Because like when did that happen
Speaker 1: to Chris?
Speaker 3: It was like these arms this, but this shirtless.
Speaker 1: And that they got Chris to go shirtless too in
Speaker 1: a scene was I was like, wow, like genuinely impressed
Speaker 1: he was willing to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also think this storyline when it got towards
Speaker 2: the end, I was like, it's relatable to everyone. But
Speaker 2: I also do think there is like a particular, particular,
Speaker 2: oh my god, particular form of body dysmorphia in the
Speaker 2: gay community that I myself might have. I was surprised
Speaker 2: because when this was happening, it was actually on the show.
Speaker 2: I didn't think too much about it. I don't think
Speaker 2: as a person, And then it was very relatable and
Speaker 2: I really loved that that was one of these storylines,
Speaker 2: especially in a gay relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Now you know, he's watching his boyfriend do all these
Speaker 2: things and that makes a feel insecure, so that he's
Speaker 2: taking it on the food. And then because he's taking
Speaker 2: it on the food, it's like this specious cycle, like
Speaker 2: now he doesn't want to be into with yeah, boyfriend
Speaker 2: or fiance because he doesn'teel great.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean even from last like the last episode,
Speaker 1: when you know Blaine is kind of like trying to
Speaker 1: find his own way here and then he's find his
Speaker 1: way with food. But Kurt is still really thriving and
Speaker 1: he's still and he's feeling very insecure about it, and
Speaker 1: then finding the adult website on there was also it's fine.
Speaker 1: It was it was a little about of left field,
Speaker 1: like I don't think we needed that to fuel the
Speaker 1: rest of the Yeah, yeah, it was the thing that
Speaker 1: like it was the climax of the conflict, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I liked how the food was really kind of
Speaker 3: the metaphor the way into their dynamic and how they're dynamic,
Speaker 3: shifting and changing. So the porn thing felt a little
Speaker 3: bit Yeah, I felt a little bit like do we
Speaker 3: need this? Is this like hat? Yeah, and then it
Speaker 3: was also kind of like, oh well it's okay, you
Speaker 3: can do whatever you want. And then they kind of
Speaker 3: moved on to so it kind of.
Speaker 1: Felt like we didn't quite Yeah, I didn't quite live
Speaker 1: out its thing if it was.
Speaker 3: I felt like it felt like maybe like let's stick
Speaker 3: with the like food thing or like figure on hold
Speaker 3: that way, it felt like it just threw a wrench
Speaker 3: in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it did lead us to love is about a
Speaker 1: Field though, Yes, very a very and we get this
Speaker 1: wonderful duet with with Kurt and I mean who doesn't
Speaker 1: love the lyrics?
Speaker 3: Like I was like there was one of those times
Speaker 3: where because I think, especially like where you know and
Speaker 3: where I was in the process in the writer's office,
Speaker 3: it's like you're kind of like you're churning out these
Speaker 3: scripts and there's five to seven songs an episode, and
Speaker 3: you're just sort of like and you're pitching songs and whatever,
Speaker 3: and you know, sometimes you write a scene to fit
Speaker 3: the song, and sometimes you find the song doesn't fit
Speaker 3: the scene. But I was sort of like, wow, this
Speaker 3: song is really feels applicable this.
Speaker 2: Situation in this episode, and I was like, I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't. I wish I knew which way it was.
Speaker 3: And ambers in the church too, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is really I was these songs are kind of perfect,
Speaker 3: and like sometimes it felt sometimes it didn't feel like
Speaker 3: that when you were when the script was developing. It
Speaker 3: kind of felt like, okay, and then we'll sing this
Speaker 3: song or you know, oh he's you know, I don't know,
Speaker 3: so I did. I did appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Their real fight that they had was also very good,
Speaker 2: and like Kurt the whole time is also I think
Speaker 2: keeping it together. He has like a really great perspective
Speaker 2: about this, minus the porn thing. Was weird, but then
Speaker 2: he gave up on it. But it's not. He's doing
Speaker 2: a really good job of not making Blaine feel bad
Speaker 2: about himself. Blaine's making himself feel bad and right, and
Speaker 2: it's not, it's it is nice to see and he
Speaker 2: Blaine even acknowledges that in high school he was like
Speaker 2: the man right and to see that and to not
Speaker 2: be able to do anything about it. And then the
Speaker 2: person that you're looking at and that comparing yourself against
Speaker 2: is also handling it really well. Yeah, there's no fault.
Speaker 2: He's not there's nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 1: He's he's not about and he's like when we when
Speaker 1: are we like against when we're we against each other,
Speaker 1: like we're I'm in this with you, I'm your teammate.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to tell really, but it is real. Like
Speaker 1: when you are in your own spiral, nobody can help you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or like very few people
Speaker 1: can help you get out of that, or like you
Speaker 1: get that on your own, you know, like it's a
Speaker 1: hard thing to recover from. Like when the person you're
Speaker 1: staring at, like you said, Kevin is the one that
Speaker 1: is triggering some of these things, right, right, I.
Speaker 3: Thought it was again like sort of talking about how
Speaker 3: like the storylines are growing up a little bit, like
Speaker 3: this is this shows like how much more secure Kurt
Speaker 3: feels in the environment and like how much more mature,
Speaker 3: like he's matured in this year he's had out of school,
Speaker 3: Like you can tell he's ahead of Blaine now, who's
Speaker 3: kind of like trying to catch up, Whereas at the
Speaker 3: beginning of their relationship was really kind of like Kurt
Speaker 3: was the anxious one trying to get at Blaine, and
Speaker 3: like Blaine was so cool, calm and collected, and so
Speaker 3: it's cool to see this kind of switch because it
Speaker 3: feels like, oh, this is kind of what happens when
Speaker 3: you when you get out into school. You can your
Speaker 3: whole personality can change totally all of a sudden in
Speaker 3: a different you know, you're fish in a different pond.
Speaker 1: You find he's like dropping in, like after they've kind
Speaker 1: of like started to find their footing, like Kurt and Rachel,
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 2: To take stage combat.
Speaker 1: It was it was a an elective in the theater
Speaker 1: in my minor, like or in my major, Like you
Speaker 1: don't have to take it, but there's electives within your
Speaker 1: major that you can take Okay.
Speaker 3: It's definitely a moment where I was like, they're like
Speaker 3: proper fencing.
Speaker 1: Though, I was like, are we doing stage combat or fencing?
Speaker 1: Because those are two mystery.
Speaker 3: Was like one thing, and then I'm like, wait, is
Speaker 3: that guess? Those are like they're fully like in gear,
Speaker 3: like properly. I was like, this is I don't know
Speaker 3: if this is drama school or if it's just just
Speaker 3: for the image.
Speaker 1: We're a little confused.
Speaker 2: I did how hot though, did Chris like when he
Speaker 2: pulled off that mask and then just stared at Darren
Speaker 2: like what's wrong?
Speaker 1: I know? And honestly, Darren's hair looked really good after
Speaker 1: his mask. I was like, they look great.
Speaker 2: I did a break into what was the Madonna James
Speaker 2: Bond song? They do that in the music video.
Speaker 3: I was like, I also thought it was funny too.
Speaker 3: I think there were two two things in this storyline
Speaker 3: that sort of made me feel the passage of time,
Speaker 3: one being like, oh wow, crow nuts, and then the
Speaker 3: other was the porn thing, because I feel like the
Speaker 3: just the landscape of porn has changed so much, like
Speaker 3: this feels very outdated. Even just to be like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's a sight up on.
Speaker 1: Your Yeah, and adults like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but seeing the cro nuts was really fun and all.
Speaker 3: And I did notice that I forgot that this was
Speaker 3: the episode where they're the guy selling the euros is
Speaker 3: named Aristotle, which Michael Hitchcock wrote it because that's my name.
Speaker 3: But the funniest thing is, like, it was all very endearing,
Speaker 3: and I loved watching Darren to eat all the food.
Speaker 3: But there was that one scene where it was like
Speaker 3: he was it's like, trying to make Darren look fat
Speaker 3: is like no, no amount of TV magic.
Speaker 1: When he is like literally was protruding like like a
Speaker 1: big exhale, and I was like, come on, you guys.
Speaker 3: They're waking at work, I know. I was like, this
Speaker 3: guy could not look fat if you tried. So funny,
Speaker 3: great job. I thought they both did such a great
Speaker 3: job with this story. There's something so lived in about
Speaker 3: Curtain Blaine. Yeah, I haven't watched This was the first
Speaker 3: episode of Glee I've watched in maybe two years, and
Speaker 3: definitely the first so late in the series series. I
Speaker 3: think I've only watched episodes from like watch seasons one
Speaker 3: or two in the last like five or six years.
Speaker 3: So but there's yeah, there's something just so grounded about
Speaker 3: them like that it's always and similar like what I
Speaker 3: was saying about with your number. It's like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is this is it? This is classic Cardy, Like this
Speaker 3: is classic Curtain Blaine. Like they're so lived in and
Speaker 3: it's so it's like yes, so you can kind of
Speaker 3: like drop in anywhere and feel like a consistency of character.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of we have Sam and Mercedes who are
Speaker 1: back together now and had this really wonderful, heartfelt episode
Speaker 1: of like storyline last episode about being together and like questioning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you guys catch me up just a look
Speaker 3: because I had I had a question about this. You know,
Speaker 3: Sam obviously has made his run of girls. And my
Speaker 3: question for you guys is does Sam Sadies is cute?
Speaker 3: Like I dig it, I like it. I can't remember though,
Speaker 3: like does it feel earned?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And people fans love I mean, I love Sam Sadies,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it does feel earned exactly.
Speaker 3: It's like it was there and it was like on
Speaker 3: and I really like their chemistry and I like bought
Speaker 3: into it. But I was just like, yeah, did this
Speaker 3: happen because they were the only two that hadn't been
Speaker 3: together or like did it feel like a natural progression.
Speaker 1: No, that was natural. They found their way back to
Speaker 1: each other in this context in New York, and it's
Speaker 1: like so satisfying.
Speaker 3: So it's Sam, Blaine and Mercedes living together in that house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Blaine and Kurt try to live together when
Speaker 1: Blaine moves to New York, and then they decide that
Speaker 1: it's better that they actually separated and in separate, separate locations.
Speaker 1: And then Mercedes is that she's gonna move and she's
Speaker 1: gonna work on her album and focus on music. And
Speaker 1: at the same time, Sam was crashing on the cow
Speaker 1: of of everybody at the loft, and so Sam, Blaine,
Speaker 1: and Mercedes are all roommates. Mercedes and Sam were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got to like figure this out. We're going to
Speaker 1: be friends, and then immediately like jump on each other.
Speaker 1: And so now they are fully dating. After last episode
Speaker 1: where they were questioning being together, there were some questionable
Speaker 1: things that Sam did. I won't mention, yeah, but yes,
Speaker 1: so it definitely does. And this and this whole storyline.
Speaker 1: I think Amber actually did work with Brad and the
Speaker 1: writers and you guys too to navigate because I think
Speaker 1: she really was adamant about Mercedes being a virgin.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I remember hearing an interview or article.
Speaker 1: On show.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I listened to that and it's like,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I think that it's great that she felt
Speaker 3: ownership and like could advocate for the character in that way.
Speaker 3: And also it does it feels like an example of like, okay,
Speaker 3: this is this is an important point of view, and
Speaker 3: it feels right like this the end, like it kind
Speaker 3: of feels like if they had had if they had
Speaker 3: done it by the end, uh, feels like that the
Speaker 3: tension would have been gone. Like not not that it's conflict,
Speaker 3: but you know, like the conflict of it. And I
Speaker 3: think it's I think that like it does feel like
Speaker 3: Mercedes that she stick sticks to her guns. And I
Speaker 3: also like that, you know, her faith factors into it
Speaker 3: a lot. And I think that a show like Glee,
Speaker 3: I think that, like I love that there's space for that,
Speaker 3: and like, you know, I'm not a religious person, but
Speaker 3: I think that it's great to know that like people
Speaker 3: in this environment, like are there that does exist that's
Speaker 3: represented and that's important to her. So I think I
Speaker 3: really appreciate it. I appreciated the whole arc of this
Speaker 3: story and and uh, and the fact that, yeah, Amber
Speaker 3: felt like she could she could voice her opinion advocate
Speaker 3: for the character in this.
Speaker 2: Way on the religion aspect of it. I also did
Speaker 2: like that when she, you know, she mentioned that she
Speaker 2: prayed on it and came to it, and then at
Speaker 2: the end Sam goes, I also prayed on it, but
Speaker 2: I can go back to that church, yes, and remember
Speaker 2: how to get there.
Speaker 3: That was what I prayed in the bathroom. That was
Speaker 3: the only true lol of the episode. I laughed so
Speaker 3: hard at that.
Speaker 1: We find the chord has some really good l moments
Speaker 1: and like these later episodes, he's really killing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's really just like thrown into comedian, like
Speaker 2: the comic side of all this. It's so good. I
Speaker 2: liked that again, those two characters are together and both
Speaker 2: are mentioning religion or praying in their own different ways
Speaker 2: and how it applies to them to how to make
Speaker 2: their relationship work. And I also feel like the same
Speaker 2: way that this storyline from Mercedes feels really true to
Speaker 2: her character. It is also nice to see Sam grow
Speaker 2: into this as well, because yeah, he's been a bit
Speaker 2: of a hoe and he has sort of I would say,
Speaker 2: like the normal cliche guy reaction to being like, it's
Speaker 2: not going to happen until marriage. But and I liked
Speaker 2: that what was found surprising, which I think was like,
Speaker 2: you know a lot about Court as a person too,
Speaker 2: you never know what's going to come out of his mouth.
Speaker 2: Totally has that quality where his reaction isn't like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're going to break up, it's like, well, I can't
Speaker 2: get married right now because he still wants to be
Speaker 2: with her, and so he space to go away and
Speaker 2: then when he comes back to be like, I'm cool
Speaker 2: with this.
Speaker 1: It's so cute. It's really sweetline.
Speaker 2: Just the best their chemistry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really is.
Speaker 3: It felt like a new flavor of like the sex
Speaker 3: story that we've explored on Glee too totally and like
Speaker 3: it you'd think, like like I sort of thought, like,
Speaker 3: haven't we covered this already? And it's like, yeah, we have,
Speaker 3: but like with Rachel and with Kurt and with you know,
Speaker 3: Fan Men, Mike, and but it's like, but this is Mercedes.
Speaker 3: This is how it happens for Mercedes, and this is
Speaker 3: what her perspective is. And I think like a lot
Speaker 3: of people can relate to that, Like I was also
Speaker 3: a urgent until I went to college. Like, I think
Speaker 3: that that that it's nice to explore that as well.
Speaker 1: I think that Mercedes. I thought actually that Mercedes was
Speaker 1: going to end up having sex with Sam at the end.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I thought that's where it landed. So
Speaker 1: like I do appreciate also because that's where it was
Speaker 1: like headed kind of with her scene with Rachel, and
Speaker 1: like I just thought, like, oh, this is this is
Speaker 1: going to make sense to her. She's preyed on and
Speaker 1: she's found like that, like she doesn't have to do
Speaker 1: everything that the church asks her and that. But like
Speaker 1: I also did appreciate the way that it turned out,
Speaker 1: but it's not what I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 1: And Sam making it okay actually just was even more
Speaker 1: satisfying and sweet and made me love this couple even more.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what happens to them. I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but I'll be really sad if and when they break up.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite scenes in this episode it was
Speaker 2: between Mercedes and Rachel because there hasn't been a lot
Speaker 2: of yeah, talk about Finn for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that little scene they didn't even say a whole lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was mostly Mercedes, and I thought how it was
Speaker 2: written was like real and true to life, like how
Speaker 2: it would be, and how Leah and Amber performed that
Speaker 2: scene was really beautiful amongst friends, and it was one
Speaker 2: of those lines of like this feels real in a
Speaker 2: way of like this would be the same conversation that
Speaker 2: you would be having, yes, someone in this position in realize. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I thought, you know, yeah, Leah was only in
Speaker 2: two scenes, I think.
Speaker 1: But they were she was very present.
Speaker 2: They had a really nice connection in both of those scenes,
Speaker 2: and for different reasons in each scene. But I thought, that's.
Speaker 1: Also like the fact that something else almost happened with
Speaker 1: her in Sam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it was like a very real I.
Speaker 1: Think it's to get her to the place where she
Speaker 1: admits like she almost had something but like isn't ready
Speaker 1: yet or like we don't know when when the next
Speaker 1: time is going to be that she's gonna find somebody.
Speaker 1: Because even if I can imagine in the writers room too,
Speaker 1: like even if we were going to give Rachel a
Speaker 1: new romantic partner, how hard that would be for her
Speaker 1: but also with her fans, So I'd imagine.
Speaker 2: Man, I was excited, like not excited. It meant a
Speaker 2: lot to see that scene.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely exactly. I think it was important. And then
Speaker 1: we also had when when we're Stadies takes Sam to
Speaker 1: the church and she needs she mentions the church cushion,
Speaker 1: which is hilarious because it's bad hurts, but we also
Speaker 1: get to see her Mercedes sing I want to Know
Speaker 1: What Love Is? Another Amber banger.
Speaker 3: I remember walking out to this one in the writer's office.
Speaker 1: So good. And then also Tiny and Ashley in the choir.
Speaker 1: Amber always seems to get all those friends and family
Speaker 1: into her songs when there's backup singers.
Speaker 2: Jordan who's in the background. I used to go to
Speaker 2: Ambda and Hollywood used to have these like showcases and
Speaker 2: some of the most incredible singers, and I would go
Speaker 2: all the time because one of my best friends was
Speaker 2: going there. And then Jordan was one of the best
Speaker 2: singers there. He's in that choir. He's just a beast.
Speaker 3: Was that in l A?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this version is so good. Another like this happened.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that happened. Are you still enjoying New
Speaker 1: York thoroughly? I love this. I love this. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like it's too chaotic. I feel like their real
Speaker 1: life storylines. I feel like they're a little more adult,
Speaker 1: They're a little bit more easier to connect to and
Speaker 1: enjoying watching all of you guys. Yes, yes, even with
Speaker 1: right exactly, even though Kevin was in a crazy suit,
Speaker 1: you did and I loved.
Speaker 3: Also, like it's I think it's still it's great that
Speaker 3: there's like still all those ways to make it so Glee,
Speaker 3: like the opening too with the guys, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: the old time opening, and like it's just so hilarious.
Speaker 3: There's just ways to make it silly, you know that
Speaker 3: that are always so like, yeah, looks so cute, but
Speaker 3: it's funny too, Because I was again I couldn't exactly
Speaker 3: place this in the storyline of the whole thing. And
Speaker 3: then in that scene with Rachel at the end where
Speaker 3: she says something about her opening night, and then I realized, like, oh, right,
Speaker 3: she's in Funny Girl and sah, and I was like,
Speaker 3: that is so like outlandish and like kind of that's
Speaker 3: like where Glee is, like it's big and grand, sort
Speaker 3: of like ridiculous in the clouds sort of like you know,
Speaker 3: it's not super realistic that Rachel's going to get a
Speaker 3: lead in a Broadway show.
Speaker 2: But but.
Speaker 3: In in comparison to this episode, that's what made this
Speaker 3: feel so grounded.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 3: That like lofty sort of like, yes, we're the best
Speaker 3: in the world kind of face living their lives how
Speaker 3: it is, and you know, Rachel's still morning and everyone
Speaker 3: trying to figure out their life and people are trying
Speaker 3: on new hats, like and people are in environments.
Speaker 1: So it's more insular for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the performances or songs, and it didn't feel
Speaker 2: like we were missing songs like I didn't.
Speaker 3: No, No, it felt like the right I think four
Speaker 3: is like we're a sweet spot with Glee. Yeah, unless
Speaker 3: it's like a competition episode.
Speaker 1: Hmmm.
Speaker 2: I'm addicted to love A plus.
Speaker 3: I liked how the girls were the backup backup answers too.
Speaker 1: It was great any faces, I was into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like recreating some of the music video on the
Speaker 2: auditorium stage. That was nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool. I want to know what love
Speaker 1: is A plus A plus so good love is a battlefield. Ay,
Speaker 1: let's wait a while. I solid I.
Speaker 2: Want a solid musical episode. Yeah, I like it, and
Speaker 2: like what a variety of songs.
Speaker 1: I know. I did feel like I was getting taken
Speaker 1: back actually the eighties nineties? Yeah for sure, is this
Speaker 1: like an eighties episode? And we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3: That's why the sort of eighties last week was sort of.
Speaker 1: Sometime totally we're not like actually doing it, but we're
Speaker 1: doing it. But it really wasn't a sound time because
Speaker 1: if that was a sound time, we would have done more.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Okay, let's do some tarty takes. So we got
Speaker 1: some cringe moments. I mean the fact that I mean,
Speaker 1: Sam was such shaming you, which it was like.
Speaker 3: It was like there was such a funny awareness. And
Speaker 3: I also loved his reaction, like which tested positive and
Speaker 3: it was like he was taking it personally, like he
Speaker 3: wouldn't watch it.
Speaker 1: It was very it was very tinic and chang in
Speaker 1: the choir room. I will say, wait.
Speaker 2: My favorite moment of the entire episode is when Sam
Speaker 2: and Mercedes are on their date and then Alartie and
Speaker 2: Julie walk in.
Speaker 3: He's like, don't touch her? Touch Like why not? It's
Speaker 3: like why would I touch him?
Speaker 1: Such a great moment. It's so funny in this episode. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't say like anything like too cringey.
Speaker 3: Some of the I mean, like I said, some of
Speaker 3: the Blaine Kurt like with the with the porn and
Speaker 3: the the body stuff felt a little a little outdated
Speaker 3: and it was a cringe e really Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, they round it out nicely, like they.
Speaker 1: Came back and yes, agreed.
Speaker 3: Yeah there was that Man of Rexia comment, which is funny,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it didn't feel like it didn't feel like
Speaker 3: completely gratuitous.
Speaker 1: Agreed. Best dance move.
Speaker 2: Love is a battlefield yet. I mean they're in those
Speaker 2: lines with the things that.
Speaker 1: The and they're like singing out of like off the
Speaker 1: beat of what the choreo was. I was like, get it,
Speaker 1: you boys, get it.
Speaker 3: Looked like it was probably the most fun to Yeah, rehearse.
Speaker 1: And shoot get it squirrels. Okay. Best song.
Speaker 3: I woke up this morning with Let's Wait a While
Speaker 3: in my head. So I don't know if that's because
Speaker 3: it was the last one in the episode but or
Speaker 3: it's just such a great song, but that one stuck
Speaker 3: with me. And then also I want to know what.
Speaker 1: I want to know what love is. I think it
Speaker 1: is my top.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's been a while, or I want
Speaker 2: to know what love is. I was just really excited
Speaker 2: to do a Janet.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was like Kevin's living well.
Speaker 2: I always feel like I'm complaining about how hard a
Speaker 2: song was to record.
Speaker 1: But you were given very difficult songs.
Speaker 2: But you do like that song was not in my range.
Speaker 2: I will just tell you. And Luke was doing this thing,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm singing this with amber and it's sitting
Speaker 2: in the most uncomfortable place in my voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's.
Speaker 2: Too high for me to like.
Speaker 1: Bey Anyway, I thought you did great.
Speaker 3: He did a great job.
Speaker 1: He sounded great. Best performance by a prop.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's have an honorable mention to the Cheeto.
Speaker 1: Dust and to the frozen.
Speaker 3: Food, the Sunday all the food for.
Speaker 1: Sure food okay, c.
Speaker 3: The outfit was truly this is a funny thing. I
Speaker 3: really remember too about the std acostume was the images
Speaker 3: on it are all from I remember it would think
Speaker 3: it was about season five and the writer's office. We
Speaker 3: called up the art department. We were like, we have
Speaker 3: this hallway, it's so bare, like, can you send us
Speaker 3: some posters to put up? And they got all these
Speaker 3: old McKinley posters and blew them up and put we
Speaker 3: put them on the walls and one of them was
Speaker 3: an STD poster, so that was all from a McKinley
Speaker 3: high set dressing poster. And they got onto the big suit.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's great. What a great little Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: the best line.
Speaker 3: For me it was Sam's I tried to pray, but
Speaker 3: I didn't go to that church because I couldn't find it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Same and don't touch.
Speaker 1: Him, don't touch him, Yeah, don't touch them performed MVP.
Speaker 1: Oh well, Kevin, I give you, I give you MVP.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you get.
Speaker 3: It, especially knowing what was going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Well exactly. Additionally, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody was great.
Speaker 1: I thought everybody is doing their best work, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is.
Speaker 3: And I think it's like when it's so like when
Speaker 3: you're able to concentrate like that, and it's really just
Speaker 3: we're dealing with five characters here, like everybody got time
Speaker 3: to shine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm into it. Yeah, I'm so into it.
Speaker 2: So shit, we found on TikTok this week because Lady
Speaker 2: Gaga has an Ab'm coming out doing press and no
Speaker 2: one told me about this. I just happened. I don't
Speaker 2: ever watch these it's the Vanity Fair.
Speaker 1: Oh the live detectors. I love those.
Speaker 2: I've never watched a full one before, and for some reason,
Speaker 2: I wanted to watch gagas. And then at the very
Speaker 2: end of it, she's asked if she is a gleek,
Speaker 2: and she she's asked if she liked doing drag Race
Speaker 2: more or Glee. She's like, well both, but I didn't
Speaker 2: get to go on Glee drag Race. And then she's
Speaker 2: asked if she's a gleek.
Speaker 1: Well, if they like her photo, if they like her
Speaker 1: episode of Glee, yeah, and if she is a gleek.
Speaker 1: She's like, what's a gleek? But then she's like, I
Speaker 1: am a.
Speaker 2: Gleek, yes, and she said she loves all the casts.
Speaker 2: He loves the show. I mean, girl, I.
Speaker 3: Love it said. You can see her brain working when
Speaker 3: she gets asked the question, because she's like, what is that?
Speaker 3: How would you do?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Yes, I am it is me.
Speaker 2: I am that to this new era, this new Gaga era,
Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying.
Speaker 3: He's got whatever she's got going on to that.
Speaker 1: Base browse, the look like it's it's phenomenal.
Speaker 3: We're still for a new album.
Speaker 1: Got it's about time?
Speaker 2: What is it? Like, how would you define gleek?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, GK I love Glee?
Speaker 2: Yes? How would you? Yes? I love Glee?
Speaker 3: How would you do?
Speaker 1: To be fair? Like nobody's telling Gaga like what a
Speaker 1: gleek is? Like get over?
Speaker 3: But they did, they didn't know.
Speaker 1: But still like come on, like she's expected to know
Speaker 1: what a greek is?
Speaker 2: She remembered because look, Gaga was always there for us,
Speaker 2: oh gay TV reperformances, she was like interviews, she was
Speaker 2: there like I and obviously you guys were buddies.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the episode. Thanks for joining us, Telly.
Speaker 3: This is a joy, a pleasure, and really, I don't
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think I would have hopped into
Speaker 3: season five, episode sixteen had I not been here. But
Speaker 3: it was great. It was really fun to watch and
Speaker 3: always great to talk with you guys, and also just
Speaker 3: to revisit, to revisit such a you know, big part
Speaker 3: of our lives from this vanas point of you know, ten,
Speaker 3: ten and twelve years down the line. It's it's fun,
Speaker 3: it's a good opportunity to reflect. So thank you.
Speaker 2: You were there just as much as we were.
Speaker 1: Yes, you were true, that's what you really missed.
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