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Speaker 1: If you thought this year would be different with Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: today about his future and why he really believes in

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Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers. Who John Franklin Myers know that name?

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Speaker 1: The star d Lyman joins us tonight to talk about

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Speaker 1: his journey and where he could land next. There's always

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Speaker 1: fantasy fallout from free agency. Good thing we've got Michael

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Speaker 1: to see some big names land to make them worth

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Speaker 1: drafting to your team this summer. Welcome inside with the

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Speaker 1: insiders alongside Ian rappaport I am Tom Pellicero. Tons of

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Speaker 1: news to get into amidst the final countdown to the

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Speaker 1: free agency frenzy. We got the release of a four

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Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl wide receiver to get into. But let's

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Speaker 1: start out tonight. But how about this seeing a big

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Speaker 1: time trade stop us if you heard this one before.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs and the Rams always active, and this time

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Speaker 1: it's a former All Pro quarterback Trent mcduffy on the move.

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Speaker 1: He heads from Kansas City to LA in exchange for

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Speaker 1: a bowltload of picks twenty ninth overall this year, plus

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Speaker 1: the trade earlier today, tell us how did this come

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Speaker 1: together and why now? This trade gave me flashbacks, Tom.

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Speaker 2: They reminded me of the Tyreek Hill trade several years

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Speaker 2: the world are they going to stop anyone? Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: this is what the Chiefs do now. First of all,

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Speaker 1: They release Jawan Taylor.

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Speaker 2: They've been trying to make room still would like to

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Speaker 2: So what Kansas City did was try to get creative.

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Speaker 2: And this really, as you mentioned, Tom, has been a

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Speaker 2: When everyone is doing one thing, when everyone is loading up,

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Speaker 2: this is someone who General manager Less Seed has been

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Speaker 2: Certainly some fireworks for today. Rams load up, Chiefs reload,

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Speaker 1: And the parallels are really strong here, not just in

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Speaker 1: which become official on March eleventh. It's also the fact

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs free up a bunch of cash and cap space.

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Speaker 1: If you're talking about a thirty million dollars per year

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Speaker 4: Trent McDuffie can play any style.

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Speaker 3: He can play in the slot he can travel with

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Speaker 4: Their defense got better today.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots informed Stefon Diggs, the four time Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: This has been something that had been rumored. There was

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots was sort of that final piece

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised if the Patriots ended up trading for

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Speaker 2: whether they add to the receiver or a big piece

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Speaker 1: They now have kind of cleared the decks. Salary cap Liz,

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Speaker 1: And from what I understand, there's really just a select.

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Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to keep a great player. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Comes to that, go ahead and knock get into those

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Speaker 2: And actually on the batmacav Show, Ajhawk asked him a

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Speaker 1: Here's what I know.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers do expect a decision from Aaron Rodgers before

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Speaker 2: Let me just also add this is not mean anyone's

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Speaker 2: I bring that up to say, the Fridge and Frenzies

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Speaker 2: here at Navil Network is your home for all the

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Speaker 2: a move when it all kicks off Monday, March ninth.

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Speaker 1: Tom some sad news to report tonight legendary college football

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Speaker 1: coach Lou Holtz has died at the age of eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: Holds best known for his time at Notre Dame from

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Speaker 1: We'll be back.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, here we go. You gotta be got some hogos.

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Speaker 4: I'll help you.

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Speaker 3: And here comes Benito, and Benito's got gino and down Smith.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, don't let up.

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Speaker 1: Let's go you've got to throw it now, Blitz coming

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Speaker 1: Bill pick it up.

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Speaker 7: Alan looking deep down the field, He's got cooks who

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Speaker 1: A moment for the Broncos in the playoffs, A big

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Speaker 1: Insiders with me, Tom Pellisero and Dean Rappaport. John, thanks

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Speaker 1: for being here, man. I know you're busy. This is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean excited time period, man, A lot of emotions,

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Speaker 1: So it can be a really stressful time.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, a lot on the line, big money potentially available,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I don't think it's stressed. I mean

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Speaker 5: And that's what I do. That's Hobbs play, And wherever

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Speaker 1: So it's Robert Sola, your former coach with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: How much you know coaches and gms can't talk to

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean no, man, that's the best part of

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Speaker 4: For real.

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Speaker 2: Do you have as of right now a list of teams?

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Speaker 5: They've done a great job of putting that roster other

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Speaker 2: You know, a weird thing happens in free agency, right Like,

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Speaker 2: been buzzing with some of the names. You are someone who,

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Speaker 2: even though you obviously played in New York, I think

437
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Speaker 2: it's fair to say operated relatively under the radar for

438
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Speaker 2: someone who has played excellent for several several years, not

439
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Speaker 2: a real, like full household name as of now. Are

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Speaker 2: you looking forward to that changing in free agency or

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Speaker 2: is that is that something you think about at all

442
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Speaker 2: or do not really care?

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Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I don't care. I mean, this is

444
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Speaker 5: a job at the end of the day, so we

445
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Speaker 5: understand that, you know, there is a business side of it,

446
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Speaker 5: but man, I'm excited and truthfully, you know, the best

447
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Speaker 5: part of football is to go out there involved with

448
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Speaker 5: your brothers and the success together is ultimately what I

449
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Speaker 5: do it for. And I'll have success my brothers will

450
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Speaker 5: have success if we go out there and play together.

451
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Speaker 5: And I think that's what makes football so special to me.

452
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Speaker 5: And you know, I think everywhere I go, that's what

453
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Speaker 5: continues to happen. And you know I'm going to make

454
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Speaker 5: sure it happens because you know we do this. We

455
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Speaker 5: spend so much time with each other each and every day,

456
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Speaker 5: and were away from our families all the time, and

457
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Speaker 5: you know, we become family and you know, their success

458
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 5: means so much to me, and everywhere I've been, my

459
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Speaker 5: success has meant that much to my teammates and that's

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Speaker 5: why our bond has always been special.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the remarkable things about your journey

462
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Speaker 1: to this point, John, is somebody who's again going to

463
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Speaker 1: be one of the top agents regardless of position. Starting

464
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Speaker 1: on Mondays back in twenty nineteen and a training camp,

465
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Speaker 1: you get cut by the Rams, the Jets end up

466
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Speaker 1: claiming you off of waivers. Think you ended up on

467
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Speaker 1: injured reserve that year. That's a major setback in an

468
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Speaker 1: early stage in your career. That can dishearten guys. You

469
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Speaker 1: can make you question a lot of things. If you

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Speaker 1: think back to that time, were you confident that you

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Speaker 1: would be in the type of position you are right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would say again, my confidence is never

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Speaker 5: lacked throughout the process. You know, I show up to

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Speaker 5: work and I try to be my best each and

475
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Speaker 5: every day. Again, I'm going to be the most physical

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Speaker 5: guy in the building. I'm going to work as hard

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Speaker 5: as I can. And you know, I think throughout the process,

478
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Speaker 5: you know, talking to my teammates, talking to my agent,

479
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Speaker 5: my family. You know, I have that support system for

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Speaker 5: me that means the most and I wouldn't be who

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Speaker 5: I am without them. And so it is. You know,

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Speaker 5: when you go through a process like that, you lean

483
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Speaker 5: on your teammates, you lean on your loved ones, and

484
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Speaker 5: ultimately you get through the process that whenever I get

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Speaker 5: that opportunity again, I'm going to be able to help

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Speaker 5: the team in a better way mentally and physically.

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Speaker 1: The last thing for you, John, really quick Monday, the

488
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Speaker 1: window opens at neon Easter time. Where are you going

489
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Speaker 1: to be take it all in? And if you say

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Speaker 1: you're going to be watching free agency Frenzy on NFL Network,

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Speaker 1: that would actually really.

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Speaker 4: Help us out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, you know, my plan is to

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Speaker 5: watch free agency Frenzy on NFL Network I mean, I

495
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Speaker 5: have no other plans, and you know when I say,

496
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Speaker 5: all I'm gonna do is sit up the TV and

497
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Speaker 5: you know, try to take it in and just embrace

498
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Speaker 5: the process. So looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Love it. See for that type of promo, I'd pay

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Speaker 1: you any amount, John Frankliners, you get yours on Monday.

501
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Speaker 1: Thanks a ton dude for being here. Best of luck.

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Speaker 1: Let's do this again down the road.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for the opportunities new today.

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Speaker 1: Nothing as it comes to Aaron Rodgers did appear on

505
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Speaker 1: the Pat McFee show, discussed many issues many people, but

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Speaker 1: when he came to himself, Rogers demurred, saying that he

507
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Speaker 1: is not yet at a point of considering anything. No

508
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: contract offers, no deadlines, still deciding whether he wants to play,

509
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Speaker 1: and avoiding any questions about whether or not that play

510
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Speaker 1: would be with his old coach Mike McCarthy, who he

511
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Speaker 1: loves in Pittsburgh. We did have something new on the

512
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Speaker 1: trade front, and it is a blockbuster. Trent McDuffie, the

513
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Speaker 1: standout cornerback from the Chiefs, heading to the Rams in

514
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Speaker 1: exchange for a first round pick plus fifth and sixth

515
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Speaker 1: this year. A twenty twenty seven third rounder as well.

516
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Speaker 1: McDuffie's going to cash in on a big old contract.

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Speaker 1: Let's see doing what he does sometimes two picks and

518
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs like they did four years ago and training

519
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Speaker 1: Tyreek hill Ian moving on from a top player to

520
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Speaker 1: get more resources to build around Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Panthers receiver Jalen Cocher not a pick. Undrafted free agent,

522
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Speaker 2: which puts him in the kind of strange category of

523
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Speaker 2: exclusive rights tenders. Basically players who are undrafted free agents

524
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Speaker 2: who want to get their contract extended for the team,

525
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: but not the big, big money, just a little bit

526
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Speaker 2: of money. Both of these guys coming back. Actually, Jalen

527
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Speaker 2: coc are really intriguing young player for the Carolina Panthers.

528
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Speaker 2: We also got details on the Hall of Fame game.

529
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Speaker 2: Actually kind of a nice cool thing for Michael fo

530
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Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals head coach, gets to start his preseason

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Speaker 2: a little early in his first year. They go against

532
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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers. It is the Luke Keithley versus Larry

533
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Speaker 2: Fitzgerald Bowle Hall of Fame Game. I look forward to

534
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Speaker 2: being in an airport somewhere Tom and trying to watch

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Speaker 2: it while also trying to make my play.

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Speaker 4: We say a combine. Hello to Stacy Dale.

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Speaker 1: Sunny your reaction. Let's start with the forty.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I wanted to hit a four, four or five,

539
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Speaker 4: so good times.

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Speaker 1: What the heck did you feed these boys in Bickerington, Ohio.

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Speaker 4: It's really not the food, it's their dad.

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Speaker 1: One of the things we absolutely love are those.

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Speaker 4: Them crazy looks. Just joined the process was run a

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Speaker 4: four to two.

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Speaker 1: We got a shot of your dad after your first run.

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Speaker 4: He never satisfied.

547
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Speaker 1: Like me, you were like a two to.

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Speaker 5: Three, which is a shooting guard.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know I'm gonna stroke that thing. You know,

550
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna shoot it. I'm gon shoot, I'm a shoot it.

551
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Speaker 4: What is like in the kitchen? Yeah, very neat, for sure.

552
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: You know I'm measuring things, put them in the in

553
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Speaker 4: the you know, dishwasher. What's your best, big probably what's

554
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 4: better the run or the hair. I'll take the hair.

555
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: I'll do whatever it takes to be in the sleep.

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Speaker 4: I want you on my team.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for being with us, but thank you.

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Speaker 1: Great job there by Stacey. Welcome back to the Insiders.

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Speaker 1: Tom Pilazero joined once again by Brian Baldinger, who's got

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Speaker 1: some of bald these big boys that he liked during

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Speaker 1: last week in Indianapolis.

562
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Speaker 4: Baldy.

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Speaker 1: Let's start out with one that I became quite fond

564
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Speaker 1: of at the Senior Bowl. He's got a mullet, he's

565
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: got a mustache, he drinks tons of coffee, loves to

566
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Speaker 1: eat Culver's. I'm talking about none other than Jennings Dunker.

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Speaker 3: You're well, first of all, let me channel Jennings Dunker

568
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 3: right here. Let me just get this hacking around right here.

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Speaker 4: Because I know that let is flying.

570
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: Like everybody saw that letters flying running that forty yard dash.

571
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: But you know, I saw him up close and personal

572
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: at the Senior Bowl this year, and if there was

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Speaker 3: an if there was a rep.

574
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Speaker 4: That need to be taking, Jennings jumped in.

575
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Speaker 3: Like when you watch him play right tackle at Iowa.

576
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: He's a maller, and not just a mall This mawler

577
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 3: is out there, he's a nasty maller. Like that's his

578
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: game to get nasty, to get you onto the mat,

579
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Speaker 3: like take you down.

580
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Speaker 4: He's going to get inside your grill.

581
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Speaker 3: He's not the prettiest guy, but he's the nastiest guy.

582
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Speaker 3: He showed some of it there in some of these drills.

583
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Speaker 3: But I just think this is a guy that can

584
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Speaker 3: play almost anywhere on the offense.

585
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: Flying right tackle.

586
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: God, he could probably go in and play at center two,

587
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: just because he's been trained so well out there at Iowa.

588
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: Tom the forty yard dash for offensive line and sometimes

589
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: people laugh at it, but there's something to be said

590
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: for the athletic a billity the that can show Cayden

591
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: Proctor a prime example, second fastest forty by a guy

592
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Speaker 1: way at least three hundred and fifty pounds, going all

593
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: the way back as far as our combine data goes

594
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: to two thousand and three. What do you think of Procter?

595
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: I love Cayten Proctor. You know you think about this Tom.

596
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: He left where he went to high school, went to Tuscaloos.

597
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: He started day one for Nick Saban at left tackle

598
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: and he's been at left tackle since. And you know,

599
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: he's the most physical offensive tackle in this draft. Physically,

600
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: there's nobody that can contain him. Now, you know, I

601
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: had him at offensive Line Masterminds last year, the year

602
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: before he comes, and he just soaks it all up.

603
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: And I introduced him with Tony Biselli last year and

604
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: BISSELLI basically told him. He goes, look, you're good, but

605
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: if you want to be great, you got to do

606
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: certain things. You got to take care to wait, you

607
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: got to be more consistent, you got to do this.

608
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: And I think he really listened to what Basselli had

609
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: to say at Masterminds last year, and I think he

610
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: applied it this year and it really showed. You watched

611
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: that last game against Georgia, you can't find a bad

612
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Speaker 3: play from Cayden Proctor.

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Speaker 1: Worst job at the combine has to be the guy

614
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: holding the bag, who's getting the getting the punch, and

615
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: every time you see it, it's kind of hit them

616
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: in the chin. His hat's going back over it over.

617
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: It's not fair. Second worst job the guy who had

618
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: to pronounce the name of the next.

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Speaker 3: Guy you're gonna talk about, Yes, Vivega Joanni okay out

620
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: of Penn State, and you know, you get these Polynesians.

621
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: Just pronounce every val You can never go wrong when

622
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: you do that, and talk about feeling your punch.

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Speaker 4: This guy's got a punch.

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Speaker 3: It's so good, actually, Tom that when you watch Penn

625
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 3: State they line them up all over the place. They

626
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: put him at wing and go okay, We're gonna run

627
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: behind Vivega right here. They put him at guard and

628
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna run quarterback sneak behind you like they put

629
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Speaker 3: him in position where everybody knew they're gonna run behind him,

630
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: and they couldn't do much to it.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

632
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Speaker 3: You know, last year, Tyler Booker, Gray's abel were first

633
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: round picks at guard. They made their teams immediately better.

634
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: And that's what Vivega is gonna do. He's gonna be

635
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: a first round pick at guard. You're gonna plug and

636
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: you're gonna play him. You're probably not gonna hear three

637
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: words from them all year, but he's gonna make your

638
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: offensive line better. He's gonna make your offense better.

639
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: Onefamiliar name this week at the Combine Rutledge. We got

640
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: another one here. Rutlands was last year. Now we got Rutledge. Baldy.

641
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: What do you make him?

642
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, So here's what I believe about Kayler Rutledge. First

643
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: of all, he's played at Middle Tennessee State, he was

644
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: a Blue Raider, he played at Georgia Tech. But I

645
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: honestly believe Tom that he's only happy when he has

646
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: his opponent on the ground and he's sitting on top

647
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: of him. Like, that's when I think he finds real

648
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: joy in life. He is a physical player. He loves

649
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: to get into your grill.

650
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

651
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 3: He's had a great off season Tom from the Senior

652
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Speaker 3: Bowl to the Combine. I think he's gonna have He's

653
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Speaker 3: gonna get picked high in the draft. He had a

654
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Speaker 3: great season. Like I expect big things from kaylerb. In fact,

655
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Speaker 3: when I studied him this week, I said he's going

656
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Speaker 3: to be a Day one starter at offensive guard. I

657
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Speaker 3: don't know what round he goes in, but I believe

658
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Speaker 3: somebody's going to draft him and he's going to start him.

659
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Speaker 4: He's got that type of ability.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Can we see the video one more time

661
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Speaker 1: of Keeland Rutleds because the only thing I can think

662
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Speaker 1: after seeing the flowing locks on the likes of Jennings Dunker,

663
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Speaker 1: is this is why the big men grow out the mullets.

664
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Speaker 1: Does he not have the strangest body the head ratio.

665
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Speaker 1: I think I've just been girded to expect that you're

666
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Speaker 1: gonna have the hair coming out of the helmet.

667
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Speaker 4: He looks like his own body.

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Speaker 1: It's the old shrunken head with scene. Although I'm sure

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Speaker 1: like all offensive lineman Baldy, big brain upstairs there for

670
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Speaker 1: Keiland Rutledge, Baldy, awesome stuff as always. Fifty days to

671
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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft kick it off in Pittsburgh, Boot we

672
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Speaker 1: will be with you and that backwards hat that I

673
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Speaker 1: want to see a whole lot more as well.

674
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Speaker 2: Chargers made some moves today, not the fun kind than

675
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Speaker 2: not as fun kind. They have announced they have released

676
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Speaker 2: Will Disley and Mackai becked it On with waving tackles

677
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Speaker 2: save on Washington. Becked it In particularly, a lot of

678
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: high expectations for him last year cost him a lot

679
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Speaker 2: of money, simply did not deliver what the team in hopes.

680
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Speaker 2: They clear salary cap space bridge at Connon as you

681
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Speaker 2: join us here on the Insiders, and they got a

682
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Speaker 2: lot of cap space heading into free agency next year,

683
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Speaker 2: ninety nine million dollars by my account, I just did

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Speaker 2: the math on my hand.

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Speaker 1: Near just did the thing.

686
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Speaker 2: What in the world are the Chargers going to be

687
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Speaker 2: doing next week? Give us a little hint as to

688
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Speaker 2: where their eyeballs may be focusing in free agency.

689
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Speaker 8: Well, Ian, it's definitely going to be the interior offensive line.

690
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 8: Bradley Boseman retired their center Zion Johnson, their right guard

691
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Speaker 8: or their left guard. He didn't play great last season.

692
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Speaker 8: He's set to become a free agent. And then you

693
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Speaker 8: just saw it. They released their right guard Makai Becton today,

694
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Speaker 8: so expect them to be aggressive when free agency begins

695
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Speaker 8: next week. By releasing Becton, they freed up about ten

696
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Speaker 8: million in cap space, so you mentioned it. Ninety nine

697
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Speaker 8: million in cap space. That is the number one amount

698
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Speaker 8: in the NFL. They have the most cap space available

699
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Speaker 8: of anyone in the NFL, so expect them to be aggressive.

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Speaker 8: Some names they could consider Tyler Linderbaum who was with

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Speaker 8: the Ravens. And you know Joe Jortiz, the general manager

702
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Speaker 8: for the Chargers. He was the director of player personnel

703
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Speaker 8: back in twenty twenty two when the Ravens drafted Linderbaum.

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Speaker 8: Another player that they could go after also is from

705
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Speaker 8: the Ravens, Isaiah Likely. They released Will Disley today the

706
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Speaker 8: tight end. They need help at the tight end position.

707
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Speaker 8: He's another guy that Joe Horties is very familiar with.

708
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Speaker 8: And then if we go back to offensive line, another

709
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Speaker 8: player that we can talk about is Liam Eikenberg who

710
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Speaker 8: was with Mike McDaniel, their new offensive coordinator and also

711
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Speaker 8: their new offensive line coach, So that could be like

712
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Speaker 8: a familiarity there that they want to bring him. He

713
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Speaker 8: was obviously with the Dolphins. A lot of players that

714
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Speaker 8: they're going to be talking to though, are going to

715
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Speaker 8: be on the offensive line, right, Like, this is a

716
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Speaker 8: team that needs to protect their quarterback, Justin Herbert. They've

717
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Speaker 8: lost so many people and due to injury, Sean Slater's

718
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Speaker 8: coming back from injury, Joe All dealt with injuries, so

719
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Speaker 8: they really need to bulk up that offensive.

720
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Speaker 2: Line in man, get those two studs back there on

721
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Speaker 2: the corners probably helps. Like two big free agent acquisitions,

722
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Speaker 2: getting Slater and All back, also have a couple edges

723
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Speaker 2: another one to bring back Li Mack the legend a

724
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Speaker 2: dafe oh Way after a resurging year. Is well going

725
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Speaker 2: to be busy times for the Chargers in free agency.

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Speaker 1: What about at the combine though? What about in the draft?

727
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Speaker 2: Like the Chargers were there all week, they were scouring

728
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Speaker 2: the prospects. They are a draft and developed team. Who

729
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Speaker 2: are they looking at in Indianapolis?

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Speaker 8: All right, Well, let's look at what they've done the

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Speaker 8: past two years. The Chargers have drafted offensive players the

732
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Speaker 8: top two picks that they've had last year and the

733
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Speaker 8: year before, so you would think, right they would go

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Speaker 8: with a defensive guy. Who's to say they'll do that

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Speaker 8: with their twenty two pick in the first round, But

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Speaker 8: one guy that could be interesting, and I know that

737
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Speaker 8: they're interested in him, defensive tackle Caleb Banks from Florida.

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Speaker 8: What's really interesting about him is he missed all but

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Speaker 8: three games in his last season of college with Florida

740
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Speaker 8: due to an injury. So he's a guy that's kind

741
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Speaker 8: of fallen and in the draft he could be a

742
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Speaker 8: player where if he stays healthy and he's there at

743
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Speaker 8: twenty two, they take him and it could be a

744
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Speaker 8: really good situation. Another player tight end from Oregon, Kenya

745
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Speaker 8: and Sadik, who honestly had an incredible performance at the Draft.

746
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Speaker 8: I know he's a player that they're very excited about.

747
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Speaker 8: And as we mentioned earlier with Isaiah likely there is

748
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Speaker 8: interest in the tight end position. You saw them release

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Speaker 8: Will Disley. They really haven't had that star tight end

750
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Speaker 8: to help out justin Herbert. So if this guy is

751
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Speaker 8: available at twenty two, which after his performance at the

752
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Speaker 8: combine might not necessarily be the case, he could be

753
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Speaker 8: a steal for this Chargers Teamian.

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Speaker 2: God, I can't believe we're talking about the draft already.

755
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Speaker 2: Freency hasn't even happened. That's right, a little bit of

756
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Speaker 2: an early update. We appreciate you, Bridge Akon and great

757
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Speaker 2: stuff on. The Charge is clearly going to be one

758
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Speaker 2: of the teams to follow over the next week, as

759
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Speaker 2: is our guy Michael love Flourial, who gives us he

760
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Speaker 2: dos in information we need as it pertains to the

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Speaker 2: most important thing in this entire universe, which is my

762
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Speaker 2: fantasy team Floria.

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Speaker 1: Coming a many time now to go inside with NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Live, our guy Michael f Florio back on the

765
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Speaker 1: Insiders with me, Tom Pilicero and Ian rapport Florio. Always

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Speaker 1: looking ahead, we're worried about free agency next week. You're

767
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Speaker 1: worried about your first fantasy draft, which has to be

768
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Speaker 1: in at least in May. I think you give it

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Speaker 1: at least a little bit of time here. But some

770
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Speaker 1: of these free agents, they'll be changing teams over the

771
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Speaker 1: next week, could impact their fantasy value. Where do you

772
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Speaker 1: want to start of a guy you shouldn't give up on,

773
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Speaker 1: depending if he lands in the right spot. I think it's.

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Speaker 7: Romeo Dobbs, who I think is a really good wide

775
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 7: receiver but hasn't always had the chance to showcase that.

776
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 7: But last season he posted a career highs in yards

777
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 7: passer rating when targeted, yards per route and target EPA,

778
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Speaker 7: and the list goes on and on. I think he's

779
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Speaker 7: a very talented receiver who could play the X, but

780
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 7: he could move all over the field. He's a good

781
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Speaker 7: run blocker, and I just think he's better than the

782
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Speaker 7: stats show his four years in Green Bay as the Packers,

783
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Speaker 7: they've always had a crowded wide receiver room and they've

784
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Speaker 7: been a very run heavy offense. So do not be

785
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Speaker 7: surprised that Dobbs gets paid more than you might be expecting,

786
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Speaker 7: And do not be surprised if he has a better

787
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Speaker 7: Fantasy season than anything we have seen out of him

788
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Speaker 7: so far next year, if he falls into the right

789
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Speaker 7: landing spot.

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Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't exactly a batter year for the

791
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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs offense, or atly some struggling and struggles

792
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: ended up firing some position coaches associated with the receiver group,

793
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: the running back group, and yet here we are. Florio,

794
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Speaker 2: talk me through why you love the Kansas City Chiefs

795
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Speaker 2: skill group again.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they have two players that have just been my

797
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 7: guys and I just can't write them off.

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Speaker 1: And one of it is.

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Speaker 7: Isaiah Pacheco, because I think it depends where he ends up.

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Speaker 7: But I know people are saying he hasn't looked like

801
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Speaker 7: his pre injuries self since he returned. But I'm looking

802
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 7: at the Chiefs O line and being like they might

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Speaker 7: be the culprits because when you look at that Chiefs

804
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 7: running back room last year, Pacheco led them in yards

805
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 7: per carry, explosive run rate, yards before contact. He was

806
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 7: it at the line or stuffed at the lowest rate,

807
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 7: and many of his metrics were back to what they

808
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 7: were in twenty twenty three. I don't think he'll ever

809
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 7: be a fantasy RB one again, but I think he

810
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 7: could be a rock solid RB two as an early

811
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Speaker 7: down back if he lands somewhere that gives him more opportunity,

812
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Speaker 7: especially near the goal line. And then my guy Mark

813
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Speaker 7: he'th Brown. I have been chasing him since he's came

814
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 7: into the NFL. He did not see a ton of

815
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Speaker 7: volume last year, but when he did he was affected.

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Speaker 1: He posted a career high in passer rating when.

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Speaker 7: Targeted catch rate, and it was his best yards per

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Speaker 7: target since his rookie season. Many of his metrics like

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00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 7: yards per route, rent and separation created were on with

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Speaker 7: his career norms. He was more efficient than usual on

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Speaker 7: deep passes. The issue was the Chiefs really didn't air

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Speaker 7: the ball out a whole bunch this year. We know

823
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 7: what he is in fantasy right, boom or bust. That

824
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 7: is big play reliant. But I think in the right

825
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 7: system there could be more boom weeks than we saw

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Speaker 7: in his two years in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: Other than Jon Robinson, I feel like the NFC South

828
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Speaker 1: has been kind of a black hole at times for

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Speaker 1: fantasy players florio here. But there are some guys I

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Speaker 1: imagine you like, who are going to be hitting the

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Speaker 1: free agent market and maybe leaving the black hole.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I was all set to talk about Jalen Cooker, but

834
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Speaker 7: the Panthers rightfully are keeping him in their buildings. So

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Speaker 7: let's go You mentioned Bjehon Robinson. Let's go with Tyler

836
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Speaker 7: El's year, who's only crime in the last three seasons

837
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Speaker 7: is that he is not Bjon Robinson. In his lone

838
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Speaker 7: NFL season, before they drafted Bijon Tyler Ls ran for

839
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Speaker 7: over one thousand yards. He had a career high in

840
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Speaker 7: touchdowns last season. I think he's one of the better

841
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Speaker 7: power runners in the L and for years now he

842
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 7: has just been a top handcuff and more authorn in

843
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Speaker 7: the side of Beijon. But I think he can lead

844
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Speaker 7: a backfield and while he's not the best pass catcher,

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Speaker 7: I think he is a rock solid RB two if

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Speaker 7: he lands somewhere that is willing to feed him Like

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Speaker 7: there RB one.

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Speaker 1: And then Kate Doughton.

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Speaker 7: I think he is one of the potentially the most

850
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 7: well balanced tight end in this free agent class. He's

851
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 7: a great blocker. We have seen flashes of him as

852
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Speaker 7: an effective receiver. The last two seasons, he's gone for

853
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Speaker 7: almost twelve hundred yards. The issue though, is he's been

854
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 7: surrounded by a ton of really talented wide receivers, so

855
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 7: he hasn't always gotten consistent volume.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 7: I think and is viewed as a boring floor kind

858
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Speaker 7: of tight end two and I think he's going to

859
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Speaker 7: be drafted as a tight end two and one that

860
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 7: people won't be excited to get. I think he has

861
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Speaker 7: tight ended one upside in the right fit.

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Speaker 1: Serious question, though, Fourio, when is your first fantasy draft.

863
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Speaker 7: I've already done like three mocks, but my first one

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Speaker 7: that I'll play out probably a little after.

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Speaker 1: The drafts socks.

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 1: You gotta mock it before anything happens, like free agency

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Speaker 1: in the draft, that's fairly important. Florida NVIL Draft just

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Speaker 1: fifty days away, as announced by the Jaguars were very

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Speaker 1: active last year, getting a guy in Travis Hunter that

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Speaker 1: they are hopeful is going to have that type of

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Speaker 1: impact in year two. Carolina Panthers also had an impact

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Speaker 1: player Tetola McMillan not pictured here. It's whoever wears number fifty.

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Speaker 1: The letters are too small for you to see who

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Speaker 1: that is. Hey, we got a big show tomorrow. Jacob

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Speaker 1: Rodriguez is going to be on the show. Dion Burks

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Speaker 1: to top fifty prospects in the NFL Draft. Tendmaster time

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Speaker 1: sit there