1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: So Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 3: Well immigration policy to make sense, it is necessary to 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: make distinctions between those who obey the law and those 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: who violate it. 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Therefore, we disagree with. 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: Those who would label any effort to control illegal immigration 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: as somehow in it. 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 4: I announced that today is National Organizing Day, and it 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 4: jarred my memory that last night I got an email 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 4: from a fellow whose wife is an organizer for people. 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 4: She goes to their house and helps organize their home, 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: which in a sense is organizing your life, and it 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 4: popped in my head. So we tracked her down and 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: she's our guest. Her poor clients are delayed for a minute. 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: But it's fun for me to hear how people make 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: a living that's outside the norm of firefighter, police officer, 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: a small business owner, government employee. And I also think 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: it should be inspiring that if you have a little 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 4: confidence and a little pluck and a little entrepreneurism, which 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 4: means risk taking and the willingness to strike out and 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: just fake it till you make it, you'd be surprised 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: how you can make a living selling your not your time. 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: You never want to sell your time. You may measure 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 4: it in time, you may bill it by time, but 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 4: you're selling your expertise. Anybody presumably could do what she's doing, 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 4: unless she can do something more than that, and then 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: you'll pay for somebody and the fact that she's willing 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 4: to devote the time to it anyway. Stephanie Marshall owns 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: Zensational Organizing. Let's talk about your onboarding process. Somebody hears 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: about you word of mouth, they call, you, have a conversation. 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: What does that look like? 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 5: I normally ask I normally ask them how do they 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 5: hear about me? And you know, most of my clients 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 5: are through referrals, which is awesome. In the beginning, I 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 5: got my clients through Google Ads, and I haven't done 37 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: Google Ads in about three years, so that's good. So 38 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 5: I go from there and then I ask them of 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 5: what their situation is. I tell them I also congratulate 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: them for calling, because a lot of people sit on 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 5: the fence about calling someone to help them because it's 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 5: very personal. It could be overwhelming. Some people feel ashamed. 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 5: So I tell people, you know, some things aren't a 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 5: hoarding situations, some things aren't really messy, but you know, 45 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: they're calling for help. So I said, look, give yourself grace. 46 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 5: We're not superheroes twenty four to seven. You can't be 47 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 5: all things to all people. So that's why people are 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 5: here to help you. And I asked them, I said, 49 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: what are your needs? What are you feeling right now? 50 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 5: What's your deadline? And then we go from there we 51 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 5: find a plan that works for them. I go, I 52 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 5: could do a video call and assess their space. Roughly, 53 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 5: it's always better to go in person and see what 54 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 5: they have and then work with them on that vision. 55 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 5: A lot of people will say, well, what about supplies? 56 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 5: What do I need? And I tell them, first we 57 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 5: have to create the vision and declutter if that's the case, 58 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: and containing is towards the end, because you want to 59 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 5: purge out what you don't want anymore, or curate I 60 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 5: like to you know, it all depends on how your 61 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: brain works. People don't like the word purge, so I said, okay, 62 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: we want to curate a collection that brings you calm 63 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 5: and contentment the seas. You know, when you walk into 64 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 5: a room, do you want to be able to see 65 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 5: what you want? And once you have what you want there, 66 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 5: you know you have the vision you could work towards it. 67 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 5: So I just check off their list. I listened. I 68 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: do a lot of listening, and I get to know 69 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 5: my client. Sometimes it might not be a fit for me. 70 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 5: Maybe they're you know, maybe they're on a tight deadline. 71 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 5: Maybe it's a very large project and they want it 72 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 5: done yesterday and my team's not available. So I have 73 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: to refer them on. And that's where my colleagues at 74 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: NAPO Houston jump in and help out. 75 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: But let me ask you this. 76 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: And I am insured as well. 77 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: When I so growing up in a home that was 78 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: very different than the home I run and the way 79 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: people live today. I don't know how people lived back then. 80 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: I just know how I grew up. And my dad 81 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: didn't make hard any money, and my parents were very thrifty. 82 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: We didn't shop, We made things. We made things stretch, 83 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: made them last, and so you didn't throw anything away 84 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: because you might be able to use it again. Today 85 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 4: it's a much more disposable society. A television that is 86 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 4: the top of the line one year, two years later, 87 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: five years later is just taking up space. It is 88 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: still hard for me, and I've gotten much better at 89 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: not holding on to something so that takes up space 90 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 4: and clutters. But I've gotten better at that, but it's 91 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 4: still hard for me. I can't throw anything in the trash. 92 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: I want to give things away, but because I don't 93 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: have someone to immediately give that, then where do I 94 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: keep it? And it's been a struggle. But I have 95 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 4: a nephew, I have a friend, I have a couple 96 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 4: people now that I can go. So, hey, here's this bag. 97 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 4: I'm delivering it to you. And my rule to you 98 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: is if you can wear it or use it, keep it. 99 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: If not, give it to Salvation Army or throw it 100 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: away because it may not be useful. Do you have 101 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 4: a system by which you get things out of the house. 102 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, so I personally have an eight seater suv 103 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 5: that I use to pick things. Two donations. Not everything 104 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 5: goes to Goodwill. It depends on a client and depends 105 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 5: where I am at the time. I look for other 106 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 5: charities like Cyprus Assistant Ministries, Memorial Assistant Ministries. Depending where 107 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 5: I am, I look for the alternatives, the women's shelters. 108 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 5: I donate too as well, And there are some charities 109 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 5: that will go and pick the stuff up from you. 110 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 5: You know, some of us are guilty of driving around 111 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 5: well the trunk for those things and you haven't had 112 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: that time to drop this stuff off. So I take 113 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 5: that it's included in the service to take them to 114 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 5: a local charity. And I also either help or refer 115 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: things over to one of our what I call a 116 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 5: business partners that can sell things online for them as well. 117 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 5: If they feel like they could get some money from something, 118 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 5: if it's high dollar art work, then I go to 119 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: an antiques clearing house or you know, depending on what 120 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 5: the value is and stuff, I work with them to 121 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 5: help you get top dollars for things, or consignment shop. 122 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 5: Let's say you have some nice Ethan Allen furniture or 123 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 5: mid century table that everyone thinks this hip right now, 124 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 5: you don't want to sell it on Facebook marketplace. Then 125 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 5: we find a nice consignment shop. 126 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: And then there is that are you ever actually going 127 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: to sell it? 128 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: You know, there's this idea that you're going to get 129 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: paid for something, and are you actually going to make 130 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: anything for it for the hassle or are you going 131 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: to take the time to do it? You know, are 132 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: you going to have you know, strangers coming into your 133 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: home hold on just a moment. Stephanie Marshall owns sensational organizing. 134 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm not going to organize your studio. 135 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: It's oh boy, show, What's why a hanger's doing in 136 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: this closet? What I told you? No? 137 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: Hi, guys have. 138 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Work, Tad. 139 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: And I hear people saying she's getting old? What do 140 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: I get? Good dumer? 141 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 3: Who cares as much. 142 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: About the beautiful dresses i'd give her? And she cares 143 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: about me? 144 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: What while is doing? 145 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: And this closet Han's me. I buy you beautiful dresses 146 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: and you shrieked them like some shrug you two three 147 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: hundred dollars dress. 148 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: On a water hanger. 149 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: We'll see how many you find aidings over here. 150 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: We'll see you. 151 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: Live in the most beautiful house in Rentwood and you 152 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: don't care the closet from Wild Hummers. 153 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: Room looks like a dollar room and some tripid back 154 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: straight down a hole. 155 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: They Dunaway played Joan Crawford in the movie Mommy Dearest, 156 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 4: which I thought was such a powerful movie. And my 157 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: brother and I, Chris and I growing up, if our 158 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: mother was getting angry, we'd say, sorry, mommy, we won't 159 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 4: use the wire hangers as our way of acting like 160 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 4: we were abused that was looking back now, you know, 161 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 4: you do things as a kid, and we did and 162 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: we enjoyed it. You know, Christina Crawford wrote that book 163 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: Mommy Dearest, about her mother, and I was trying to remember. 164 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 4: I was trying to remember who Joan Crawford's daughter was, 165 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: and Ramon couldn't remember. And I get the Crawfords, Joan 166 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: and Christina confused with Judy Garland and Liza Minelli that 167 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 4: mother daughter trained. But I do have to ask you, 168 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: Stephanie Marshall owns Sensational Organizing. Is it odd that I 169 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: really like, more than anybody you've ever met, like nice hangers. 170 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 5: Well, that's that's wonderful that you like them. I tell 171 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 5: people that if you have wire hangers and you want 172 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 5: to use them, you can. So I'm not one of 173 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 5: those strict, for lack of a better word, Nazis that'll 174 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 5: go around saying, no, why are hangers? Yeah, but I 175 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 5: you know, you have people that will just use the 176 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 5: the hangers from the dry cleaners, you know, the ones 177 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 5: that your pants come on because they hold their pants. 178 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: The head they do and they got the little cardboard thing. 179 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: But my entire life, you know, we'd get stuff back, 180 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: you know, from the dry cleaner, or you'd put it 181 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: up and none of the hangers ever matched. 182 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: And it always drove me crazy. 183 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 4: And about a year ago my wife to absolutely thrill me, 184 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: got all consistent hangers. So every hanger is the same. 185 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 4: It's so order, so awesome. So something comes back from 186 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 4: the drag leaner, I take it off and put it 187 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 4: on my nice little hangars and they all hang awesome. 188 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: According to color. Oh there's something. 189 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 4: There's something, there's something that bases you in doing that. 190 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: When you when you work with a client, what is 191 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: the average engagement? How many hours? 192 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: Would you say? 193 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 5: Four to six hours? 194 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: Okay? 195 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 5: And depending on the project. Let's say, of course, if 196 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: it's a move in project and I have two days 197 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 5: to get my team in there to organize and unpack 198 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 5: and organize everything, we would say we have about an 199 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 5: eight hour day. And that's because you know, I've already 200 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 5: gone in to label where things will go, or we're 201 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 5: finding out the space of that we're there for some 202 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: clients and the client doesn't really have to make too 203 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 5: many hard decisions. Those are easy and just so those 204 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 5: days could be longer. I will tell you I work 205 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: on the biggest project that I worked on was a 206 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: hoarding project. It was a group hoarding project with another 207 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 5: organizer part of NAPO, and we it was a really 208 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 5: bad decease to state and we had a crew of 209 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: ten working eight hour days for ten days in the 210 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 5: twenty five hundred square foot home. Oh and at the 211 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 5: end of the ten days. This was right before that 212 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 5: big breeze in February of what twenty one, and we 213 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 5: were still sort of kind of coming out of COVID. 214 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 5: We had enough new products to fill a three car 215 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 5: garage and we had seven dumpster full of trash that 216 00:13:52,600 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: we did the dumpsters and it's that that was really 217 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 5: very painful. A lot of stuff like that, you know, 218 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: it's trauma based. I'm not a therapist, but I work 219 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 5: with some therapists to help their clients see through things 220 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 5: and quickly going back to the hangars, I also tell 221 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: people that the easiest thing that you could do for 222 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 5: your closet is to get matching hangers, because it's an 223 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 5: instant booster. You know, it's like a dopeamins thick yep, 224 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: it is it is. 225 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: You know, it's a charge. 226 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: You know. 227 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: The other thing that I have applied is that I 228 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: am an absolute minimalist. People will say, you don't have 229 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: in my studio. The only thing I have on the 230 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: wall is a Texas flag, a Texas map. I love maps, 231 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: and I keep wanting to decorate it nicer, but I 232 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: am such a minimalist. I don't want any distractions, and 233 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: so decorating is not my thing. It's most important that 234 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: the spaces be clean, because my theory is we're creating 235 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 4: new things, not staring at. 236 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: But one thing I do is for everything I bring in, 237 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: I throw something out. I get rid of something, so that. 238 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 4: It's only been recently that I cleared everything out because 239 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: I have a bad tendency to hold on to stuff 240 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: of my lightest weight and go, well, you'll get back there. 241 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's not realistic that you could sustain that. You 242 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: just it's like the day you. 243 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: Ran the marathon. You're not going to run the marathon 244 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: the next day. So it was hard for me to 245 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: let go of that sort of stuff. But it's good. 246 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: It's much more efficient, and I am an efficiency nut. 247 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: My wife lasts because when I come home every day, 248 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: I sit outside and I first open the console to. 249 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: My truck and I go through and I clean everything out. 250 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: And I wipe everything down and then so that the 251 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: next day it's hold on just a second. 252 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: I want you to give advice to people who can't 253 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: afford to hire you, or may eventually hire you, how 254 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: they can organize their lives, how everybody can organize their 255 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: lives better stay chilled. Sevanie Marshall is the president of 256 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 4: the organizing society of Houston called the National Association of 257 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: Productivity and Ongoing Professionals NAPO. You know, I was laughing 258 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: about that, Ramon, but it's pretty clear to me that 259 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: that's an association that's actually useful because now you have 260 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: you have like a network, an affiliate network that you 261 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: can spill over business to. 262 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: Ramone said that. 263 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: He would pay for the first hour if you tell 264 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: the client since you stayed late, that he's going to 265 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: cover the consultation hour. All right, Stephanie, I want to 266 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: make the most of our of our last segment together. 267 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: I want you to give some advice to people who 268 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: may not be able to afford you as to how 269 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: but they're busy and they have a little more clutter, 270 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: or they're not as they can't seem to get organized. 271 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: Give us a hit list. 272 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 5: So I like to work with an acronym called space. 273 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: So part of my tagline is helping you get your 274 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 5: zen back one space at a time. So if you 275 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 5: don't know where to begin, pick a drawer, pick a closet, 276 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 5: Pick a flat surface if it's your coffee table, your 277 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 5: bedside table, pick that you could sort through sitting like 278 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 5: with light and purge out whatever's trash or whatever you 279 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 5: don't need. And then you allocate a space for that 280 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 5: product that you have that you're kept with. And then 281 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 5: if it needs to be in a container to keep 282 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 5: it from falling or something, then contain it in something 283 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 5: and then E for equal life. You sit in the 284 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 5: space and see if it's working for you, and then 285 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 5: if it's not working for you, you have to go 286 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: back to the beginning and see what it is that's 287 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: not working. Some people like to buy containers, and you 288 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 5: know the containers aren't going to do the work themselves, 289 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 5: you know, So start with the trash, the low hanging 290 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 5: fruit that we call. You know, if it's clearly broken 291 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 5: and you've been sitting on something, you know I will 292 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 5: glue that ceramic nick knack and use it again. No, 293 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 5: you won't go ahead and give yourself permission to let 294 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 5: it go. Channel that inner elsa let it go, Let 295 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 5: it go, you know, and do you want to clear 296 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 5: your bed? You know which spot in your house can 297 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 5: you call your zen spot? Start with one spot. You know, 298 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 5: some of us see the big pictures too much to 299 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: go back and just do one stuff at a time. 300 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 5: And sometimes you might be adhd and you'd like to 301 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 5: see everything out there. It's okay to have things out 302 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 5: there as long as you know what's out there. And 303 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 5: sometimes we don't know what we have, so we go 304 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 5: out and buy it and before you know, you have 305 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 5: four pairs of scissors or five wine bottle openers. 306 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: You know. 307 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 5: To pare it down and forgive yourself for overbuying. I 308 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: think COVID brought out a lot of overbuying for some people. 309 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 5: And just start small, one space at a time, depending 310 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: on how your brain works, and get it. If you 311 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 5: don't have the money, find a good friend, a trusted friend, 312 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 5: or even a teenager that come in can be a 313 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 5: body double, you know, like sometimes we might have a 314 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 5: company coming over, and so everyone likes to go and 315 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 5: shove everything into a closet. That's okay if you need 316 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: a clear space. That way that's okay, but find a 317 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: time to go through that closet later and really work 318 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 5: on it and don't leave that stuff where your kids 319 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 5: to handle. That's not fair. 320 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: Do you have a book or book folks that you 321 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 4: highly recommend to people? Several emails asking that question. 322 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 5: There's a few out there. I also belong to an 323 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 5: organization called Faithful Organizers. It's a nationwide organization of Christian organizers. 324 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: What's it called the first word cut out? 325 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 5: Faithful? 326 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: Faithful Organizers. 327 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I should help them with their marketing, but 328 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: I got too busy. 329 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear. 330 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 4: That because there's a lot of Satanic organizers out there now, 331 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: and I really I don't want to end up with 332 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: one of those people. 333 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, there's some, you know, people that don't yees 334 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 5: who believe differently. We'll leave it there, and so I 335 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 5: base myself on you know, I'm grounded in faith, and 336 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 5: I have faith in my clients that they could see 337 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: that they will see the light at the end of 338 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 5: the tunnel. 339 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 6: As they say, it might be. 340 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 5: Overwhelming, but working together, you know, sometimes you could have 341 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 5: a little a teenager or someone that could come by 342 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 5: and help you be a body double to help you 343 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: just motivate, you know, even a friend. And there's another 344 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 5: book that a colleague of mine, she's a member member 345 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 5: of Houston APO as well. She wrote a book called 346 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 5: Life Is Messy. She's a trained nurse. We have a 347 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 5: lot of professional organizers that come from other careers. You know, 348 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 5: there were lawyers, teachers, nurses, and they just left the 349 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: professions to do this because they see that there's a 350 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: need for people to be helped. So my colleague has 351 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: a book called Life Is Messy that's out there, and yeah, 352 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 5: if they email me or send me a text message 353 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: to my number, I'd be more than happy to give 354 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 5: them more resources. There's another national organization called Institute of 355 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 5: Chronic Disorganization the ic D. That's more of a I guess, 356 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 5: more of the intellectual side of things, where people a 357 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 5: professional psychiatrists and organizers come together to help orders out 358 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: or to understand the effects of disorganization. And there's actually 359 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 5: a hoarding scale. You know, how bad of a hoarder 360 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 5: are you? Are you really a hoarder? So it's called 361 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 5: the ic D dot org run out there. 362 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: When I was growing up, I don't remember, you know, 363 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: we would say that so and so was a hoarder, 364 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: but it had nothing to do. It wasn't on the 365 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: scale of you know, do you think the television show 366 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: reveals something that had always been there, or do you 367 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 4: think this is a relatively modern phenomenon. 368 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 5: There's been some case studies. You know, I forget the 369 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 5: name of it. There was a rich billionaire and New 370 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: Yorker I think way back in the nineteen twenties. Their 371 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 5: house caught on fire and he had facts of newspapers 372 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 5: around that caught fire, you know, and he and his 373 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 5: twin brother had barricades themselves. 374 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 6: And. 375 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: You know, lived in seclusion all their lives, and they 376 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 5: it's been around. I think now it's more prevalent because, 377 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: like I said, it's more of a consumer society. You're 378 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 5: you know, taining goods a little bit easier, and sometimes, 379 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: you know, like new mothers, you get all these gifts 380 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 5: for your kids and you don't know what to do 381 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 5: with them. So that one in, one out policy is 382 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 5: perfect for toys and everything, and you know, so people 383 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 5: just get busy. We have a lot more going on 384 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: these days, but a lot of it, you know, it 385 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 5: has come to light because of media, because of the 386 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 5: TV show's orders. But it's certainly a lot easier to 387 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 5: become that way used to it was a depression era. 388 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: A grandparent right, and things cost for There's so many 389 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: there's so much stuff now. 390 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: Stephanie Marshall, thanks for being our guest. Go take care 391 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: of you. 392 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. 393 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 4: Our website is zen ze in Sational Organizing dot com, 394 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 4: or you can email me and I'll connect you. 395 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: I saw we got a call from April l Gary 396 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: Gane caught her up. 397 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: She's the aunt of one of the crime victims that 398 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 4: became a national story out of Houston. 399 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: April. Welcome to Michael Berry Show. 400 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 6: Good morning. 401 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 2: What you got my dear? 402 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 6: Well, you know, I'm just a little outraged this morning 403 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 6: that we had such a huge story. We had an 404 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 6: illegal immigrant who was on the Texas ten most Wanted 405 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 6: lift who was actually found guilty and convicted yesterday of 406 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 6: raping and impregnating a ten year old US citizen child. 407 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: Tell me what happened. I saw a story. 408 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: I saw a headline or maybe it was a Twitter 409 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 4: post or whatever, and it said he raped a child 410 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 4: that was already pregnant that's ten years old. 411 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 7: Is that right now? 412 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 6: No? 413 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 7: No, he impregnated a child. 414 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and so what has happened. He's been sentenced. 415 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 6: He was found guilty yesterday and sentenced to thirty eight years, 416 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 6: where I hope he has a miserable time in a. 417 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 7: Texas Department of Corrections for the rest of his life. 418 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 419 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 6: But my disbelief and that there's zero news. 420 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 7: Coverage on it. 421 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, whether the suspect and 422 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 6: now convicted rapist is an individual that is here in 423 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 6: this country illegally or not should not matter. This is 424 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 6: a huge story in our community. This was a fugitive 425 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 6: that was in the Texas ten most Wanted list, and 426 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 6: it's not being covered. 427 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: I think if people were aware of how many heinous 428 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: crimes are committed in our community alone own for which 429 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 4: the cops. We don't know it unless the cops catch them, right, 430 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: Usually it doesn't make the news. 431 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: So how many people. 432 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: Are arrested and then what happens to us? I think 433 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: if people knew, they'd be a head on a pitchfork. 434 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: The number of people that rape children, that kill children, 435 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 4: that rape women, and that do it again and again 436 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: and we keep catching them. I think if people realized 437 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 4: they may burn they may burn the whole city down. 438 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: It's so infuriating. 439 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 6: Well, my message for Jose miguelone, I hope you enjoy 440 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 6: your time in present and I cannot wait for the 441 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 6: inmates to find out that you're a child rapist. 442 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the world the utmost punishment. 443 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 444 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 3: Uh. 445 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 4: My brother worked for a period of time at the 446 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: Jefferson County Jail in Beaumont because we had overcrowding at 447 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: the state and or what they called overcrowding by state standards. 448 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: I say, cramme them in there. They don't need to 449 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: be comfortable. 450 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: But so they were using the jail as a prison 451 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: to serve out sentences beyond just a holding pen. And 452 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: he would tell me that when a guy came in 453 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 4: there for a sex on a child crime. In prison, 454 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: there's a pecking order and that's the worst of the worst. 455 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: You know, the guy who kill five people in cold 456 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: blood looks down on this guy and the way, and 457 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 4: so they feel good about themselves by torturing a guy 458 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 4: like this. 459 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: And I've never really believed that. Yeah, I've never really. 460 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 4: Believed that we should use our prisons as a way 461 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 4: to the time is the punishment and I don't want 462 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 4: it to be a convenient place or a comfortable place. 463 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: But I've never been one for thinking it's okay if 464 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 4: they get butt raped, But a child pedophile, I'll make 465 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: an exception for him. I'm okay if they if they 466 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: turn the other way and let that guy just get 467 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 4: reamed to the point of excruciating pain and then him 468 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: up and do it again, and that'd be fine with me. 469 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: I think that's the lowest of the low. 470 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 6: You know, a child who's ten years old, who's not 471 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 6: even developed, is just absolutely sad. He stold something that 472 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 6: this child can never get back and up their innocence 473 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 6: and peace, and this child will forever struggle with overcoming 474 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 6: this situation in her life. He did not care about her, 475 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 6: he did not care about the consequences, and therefore I 476 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 6: don't care about him, not one shred. And I hope 477 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 6: that he gets absolutely what he has deserved and earned. 478 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 6: But what's really frustrating to me is there there's no 479 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 6: coverage on this. 480 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is. 481 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: There is definitely an effort We'll start with the Houston 482 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: Chronicle to bury stories like this by omission because it 483 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: cuts against what they lecture us on on Monday, when 484 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 4: Tuesday one of these stories happens, and so they just 485 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 4: choose not to cover it. And it's the excuse is 486 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: not that they don't have reporters. They don't, it's that 487 00:28:54,240 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: they choose to cover other things. Now, the woman in Mogadishu, Minnesota, 488 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: who was killed trying to kill the officers, we had 489 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: to hear about al Green having a vigil for her. 490 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 4: We had to hear about all these things. We didn't 491 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: have a vigil for the woman missed up on the 492 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: metro bus twenty. 493 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 6: Five years old, and you know what, her family is 494 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 6: in Virginia. Her family is not here in the state, 495 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 6: and they are petrified. They are terrified to come forward. 496 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 6: We've had conversations, but they're not ready to come forward 497 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 6: and speak out. Even though they have a financial need, 498 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 6: they cannot afford to transport the body outside of Texas. 499 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 6: So we're working on that, you know, without having to 500 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 6: put them in front of a camera. And it's very 501 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 6: frustrating what crime. 502 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 5: Victims have to go to. 503 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: Well, it's like the victimize to get it again and again, 504 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: and in the process victimizes in because at least you 505 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: have some sense. People pitch a fit with I say closure, 506 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: whatever word you want to use, that you can move 507 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 4: to the next phase of this. And you don't even 508 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 4: get that because the system keeps looking at as the 509 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 4: the perpetrator, as a victim. And how can we rehabilitate 510 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 4: this person, and what kind of compassion and mercy can 511 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: we give this person, April, For. 512 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 7: People I they gave him the same mercy that they 513 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 7: gave the crime victims. 514 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: For people who don't remember the case that brought you 515 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 4: to my attention and a lot of other people's attention, 516 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: tell that story again, please. 517 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 6: So my nine year niece was on her way to 518 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 6: dinner with her mother, father, and two younger siblings and 519 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 6: an individual in a case of mistaken identity opened fire 520 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 6: on our vehicle. That individual received mercy, that individual received understanding, 521 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 6: and all the charges were dropped against him, and we 522 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 6: had to fight like hell to make sure this individual was. 523 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 7: Brought to justice. 524 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 6: Initially he was recharged with murder and ultimately was convicted 525 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 6: of manslaughter and is now serving the maximum punishment of 526 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 6: twenty years for shooting and killing a nine year old, 527 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 6: innocent little girl. 528 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely sick. April L. 529 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: Gary, thank you and thank you for taking a horrible 530 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: situation in your own life and using that as an 531 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 4: impetus to say, you know what, I am well spoken, 532 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: I am passionate, I am energetic, I make friends easily, 533 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: I communicate well. I'm going to take this issue up 534 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: and I'm going to be a thorn in the side 535 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 4: to awful criminals and to people within the process, almost 536 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 4: all of them democrats who choose to not do their jobs, 537 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 4: and who choose to see every rapist, pedophile, and murderer 538 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: as somehow an incomplete former nobel laureate and keep putting 539 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: them back out on the streets so that the rest 540 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 4: of us have to suffer, children, women, families, the elderly, 541 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: so that the rest of us have to suffer because 542 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: you people don't want to do your jobs. 543 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: It's sick. It's absolutely sick. 544 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: If I had my way, the criminals would only pick 545 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 4: the Democrats who keep putting them out on the streets 546 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: and their families, and I can guarantee you within a 547 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: week they change over to think of the way we do. 548 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: They should think as a crime victims family, and not 549 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: as somebody trying to figure out how to put bad 550 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: guys back out on. 551 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: The street and get them as if they're getting a 552 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: cut off the deal. It makes you wonder