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Speaker 1: There was no ni L money and that was what

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Speaker 1: actually that we appreciate. Oh my dad, sorry, their ni L.

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Speaker 2: If you're to estimate your n I l oh ship,

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Speaker 2: what would have well, Jesus I had a Josh moment,

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Speaker 2: what would it have been? I fact, guess you come

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Speaker 2: back thinking about you you have a choice to leave,

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Speaker 2: or they're saying, yo, Joe, come back, this is what

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Speaker 2: we have for you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe a couple of mil maybe, like

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Speaker 1: I was going to.

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Speaker 2: Say four, I wouldn't say like at least three or four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at least it was zero.

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Speaker 3: It was zero.

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Speaker 1: Actually had to pay the Lloyds of London for the insurance, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, oh, for like the loss of value stuff.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but it's just it's interesting because the ni L man.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm happy the kids deserve it, and the

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Speaker 1: kids deserve it because you know what, they're out there

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Speaker 1: on the court. So now there's a bound and the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. They have to figure out how it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they put in the fund and they can get

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Speaker 1: it later. These kids are wearing like big ass diamond

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Speaker 1: chains very young.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's good, but I think

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Speaker 2: it I think you should be able to get like

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Speaker 2: brand deals. I don't think the school should be paying

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Speaker 2: you because I feel like it's been well, not feel

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Speaker 2: like it's been free agency every year.

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Speaker 3: Or or if it is school paying you, do like

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Speaker 3: a contract, like you gotta do two years, two years,

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Speaker 3: not oh I'm.

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Speaker 1: Doing this for one year.

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Speaker 3: Now, I get the transfer as many times as I want.

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Speaker 2: You sign the year right, and then you're playing and

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Speaker 2: like say, like you don't play the first couple of games,

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Speaker 2: people are already trying to recruit you, like or you're

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Speaker 2: not playing there, We'll give you this next year if

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Speaker 2: you live.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible. But let's also not forget that the March

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Speaker 1: Madness TV money is crazy and no nobody who's playing

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Speaker 1: on that court is getting a dollar.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean not of the team money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, you're getting brand money. But okay, I

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Speaker 1: think that's just a band aid for what it really is.

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Speaker 1: This thing generates billions of dollars and you can't you

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Speaker 1: can I mean, when I was playing, it was like

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Speaker 1: you couldn't barely get your I mean for me it

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Speaker 1: teammates you couldn't bring your family to the final four.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, like that's they had to change that.

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Speaker 2: They should make the cast. No, the tournament. You make

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Speaker 2: the tournament, right, you make like they do for the Cup.

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Speaker 2: You make the first round the Cup, you get this much. Right,

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Speaker 2: you make the next round, you get this much.

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Speaker 4: But at least with the NBA, obviously the TV deals

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Speaker 4: are huge, but it's like a new TV two, new

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Speaker 4: TV deal gets negotiated that has direct impact on the

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Speaker 4: cap and you know what it's going to be over

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Speaker 4: the next whatever how many years. At least with right now,

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Speaker 4: with college sports, it's just like whatever someone can pay you,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna make. There's no rhyme or reason, no cap

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Speaker 4: like it's better. You know, it's the wild West, the

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Speaker 4: wild West. One question I do have is I feel

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Speaker 4: like it's rare to see coaches go from college to

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Speaker 4: see success in longevity in the NBA. I'm curious why

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Speaker 4: you think Billy Donovan's been able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think just because he's he's a great guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think his players. You know, if if Coach Donovan

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Speaker 1: to this day asked me, you know I need you

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Speaker 1: for something, I'll stop what I'm doing and be there.

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Speaker 1: I consider him like a father figure and somebody that

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Speaker 1: I trust. You know, if I needed some help or

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Speaker 1: for me. So I'm very proud of his run. I

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Speaker 1: think that players throughout the journey always respected him, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just for the top guys, you know.

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Speaker 1: very proud to have him. And as a coach and

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Speaker 1: as somebody from me, it was just way more than

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like I feel like that

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Speaker 2: story where I was like, y'all like coach, right, So

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Speaker 2: I need to hear a story.

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Speaker 4: Ten years Billy, Yeah, Billy.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, like it was not it was not that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it good. We were you know, I would I could

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Speaker 1: And he would tell Torrian like, yo, don't come back

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Speaker 2: At that time.

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Speaker 3: That was.

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Speaker 1: They weren't now this is this is normal at the time.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that. So I was always I wouldn't go

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Speaker 2: That ask me something like I always loved coach, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, six am, I'm pissed off. So

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Speaker 1: you got me running and doing all this extra shit

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Speaker 1: I can't sleep. Yeah, one of those and we're all

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