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Speaker 1: It's all your friends, you filthy. Your partner's gone, and

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Speaker 1: in the books and gossip. I'm shuck. It's memoirs, it's Martinis,

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Speaker 1: it's the Castro, It's Harvey Milk, Sweetheart. Celebrity book Club

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Speaker 1: can read it while it's hot. Now, Celebrity book Club,

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Speaker 1: tell your secrets. We won't talk. Celebrity book Club. No

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Speaker 1: boys are alive. Celebrating book Club, saying loud, saying loud,

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Speaker 1: Say it loud. Celebrity book Club. Hey, I'm Stephen. Can

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Speaker 1: you buz me in please? Oh hey, Lilium, Sorry, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up? What? It's my dude, My dude. I brought

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Speaker 1: us some zero point zero percent wave Chaser IPA. We

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Speaker 1: It's so good to get together with co workers and

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Speaker 1: best friends. That's what's so cool about working sixty hours

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Speaker 1: This ipa to nonprofits. Hell yes, so this is what

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Speaker 1: we call this. This is called shotgunning. I don't know

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Speaker 1: after the theft incident. Yeah, okay, So the book, the

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Speaker 1: book we read is by a woman, thank you, an

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Speaker 1: untamed woman who has a podcast called We Can Do

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Speaker 1: called Untamed Um one part of Greese Witherspoon's book Club.

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Speaker 1: really hungry, and I get the shake and I get

420
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: cold and I wrapped the blankets around me, and Abby

421
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: has to come in and remind me that's the TV show.

422
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: There's a film crew there. I'm like, She's like oh,

423
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: She's like, I just want to give them a granola bar.

424
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: Cliff Barnaby's like, baby, there's cameraman. They have cliff On crew. Hey,

425
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: club kids, are you sticking hearing ads just like this one? Well,

426
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: if you subscribe to the vip Lounge, you'll never hear

427
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: an ad again. And on top of that, you'll get

428
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: an extra episode every week. I mean, how's that for

429
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: a good deal? Good at patreon dot com such cbco.

430
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: Here's a clip from this week's episode, and this couple

431
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: was literally next to us in there like full Side

432
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: Jungle Sweet King Lounge, and they were literally playing Rumstein

433
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: off of a Bluetooth speaker and fucking in the middle

434
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: of the jay meant that Tinny do host And then

435
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: you hear her like German moans, being like oh either segments?

436
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: What she what did she wear? How does she love? Who? Okay?

437
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: What is she eat? Well, she's she's recovering from bolimia,

438
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: which she does talk about in this book. Yeah, through

439
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: and her beneas. Yeah, she was not a cheaty yet.

440
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Now she does have a healthier kind of relationship to

441
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: food maybe, but yeah, I still feel like she's being

442
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: pretty bird like with her past. Yes, I think it.

443
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: I think she might be hiding around like the big

444
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: island and the big dinner that's happening that It does

445
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: seem just tons of salmon to me. Yeah, well, okay

446
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: because Cosco, because she says didn't she mention Costco? Yeah,

447
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: because I think that like gives her like a I

448
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 1: mean she is still Christian, Yeah, she used Christian. They

449
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: do live like so she's in bulk. They have a

450
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: massive house in Florida, like with where they lay and

451
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: not to pry, but is it Naples or is it

452
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: like Tampa, say Pete Naples, Okay, which is which is

453
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: so retired an athlete to Nabby, Yeah, it is very

454
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: athlete to live. They bought that house together. I feel

455
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: like they bought that house like while they were making

456
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: love at that highatt you know what I mean, don't

457
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: you think there's like God on Zillo And they were

458
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: just like I love this one and Abby was like

459
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: they were definitely intertwine zillo done, I'll call my people.

460
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: They're both holding the iPad. Abby's tree trunk on it's

461
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: encircling Glennon. Okay. Abby also has like and her huge

462
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: forward hams. Abby has like a Seambre iPad case yes yes, yes, yes,

463
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: which really good might have like a San Francisco thing. No,

464
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: it's cool if you absolutely cool. So it's done of salmon.

465
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: I think they are doing like takeout. I feel like

466
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: Glennon's getting overwhelmed by cooking for the kids. I mean

467
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: she's overwhelmed by an article, right, so she's tapping out

468
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: of the article and just being like she's giving herself

469
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: permission to order take up and being like, I am

470
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: a cheetah. Yeah, so I will order California Pizza Kitchen,

471
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: and like the delivery person's coming and she's like there

472
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: she is. And then she's also like being like taif

473
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: percent on post meeting, but then taking their hand and

474
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: she's like thank you so much for the work, Yeah

475
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: you do, and they're like, Okay. She's obviously loves coffee,

476
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: but like hot coffee. She's not cold brus. She's big Starbucks.

477
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: She's Pizza Pee, Pizza Pizza coffee. She's buying bulk pre

478
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: ground pizza, and I do feel like their house is

479
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: a little bit and maybe this is just kind of

480
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: normal celebrity, but it's like you open it and it's

481
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: like there's half and half, like there's there's no the

482
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: pantry is slapping. Abby wants different flavors, and Abby gets

483
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: different flavors, tons of, maybe a ton of. There's some

484
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: frozen bison, even in the freezerve s. Yeah, a variety

485
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: of healthy protein options. Okay, what does she wear? Okay,

486
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: she's always wearing those like thick grim glasses that actresses

487
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: wear when they read scripts. She's in her zone, she's

488
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: in her sacred place. She's cleaning with God right now,

489
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: because God sometimes lives within. The press release for togetheris

490
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: um um. Yeah. I mean maybe it's also like she

491
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: also is obviously in the softest like threadbare three quarter lengths.

492
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: It's a lot of shirts three quarter length It's like

493
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: like like really like you know, snug plaid shirts. Oh

494
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: what you think she's like smith fam like tiny flannels. Yeah,

495
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: likes huge sweater that she's putting on for their like

496
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: huge movie nights with the ex husband. It's it's okay,

497
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: huge is a bit of an overstate. He's a yummy,

498
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: but she does keep just being like and sometimes at

499
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: the end a long day reading an article, I like

500
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: to curl up with Netflix in a blanket and a

501
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: glass of wine. And she is just like, well, I'm not.

502
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: She's saberissimo, okay, but she's a sober wine mom, like

503
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: she is live la flave like she's and she's just like,

504
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: I'm a girl mom, I'm a boy dad. Like it's

505
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: so hard. We didn't even get into how she like

506
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: checked herself for like letting her boy go easy and

507
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: not do the dish is dishes because he had soccer.

508
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: And Abby was like, I'm just picturing you now being

509
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna do the dish time to do the

510
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: dish kind of rockabilly dish dish time tonight we're doing forks,

511
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: diners and dish. She's like, I He's like, hey, babe,

512
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: why are you letting like ride her off so easy?

513
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: Like he needs to do hard things too, And she's like, no,

514
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: but he is soccer and homework. She's like, but dishes

515
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: out here doing dishes, Yeah, dish so and she realizes

516
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: the privilege she was giving to her son, right, because

517
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: she was being like, my son needs to succeed as

518
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: a student athlete, and I'm thinking that because of Sidal's

519
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: expectations society and boys, right and cheetahs, and she needs

520
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: so she actually untamed him by making him do the dishes.

521
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: And he's a cheetah, right, because real boys do dishes,

522
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: but also dishes. But again this is also her being

523
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: so nineties and just like why don't men vacuu Oh,

524
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just being like, lot's get him

525
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, right, And like there's the whole section

526
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: about shampoo where she's like I looked at my my

527
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: children's shampoo. It was filled with additives and she was like,

528
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: all the bully shampoo has had all this masculine messaging.

529
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: And he was like yes, like we've been to CBS,

530
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: like and it's just like her basically like her thesis

531
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: is like what if there were some sort of like

532
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: muted like Pastel's startup, like unisex brand of expensive shampoo

533
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: for everyone. It's like there is no There's lots of

534
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: She's like, hasn't even heard of the spice girls? Like

535
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: in Girl Power, I feel like, you know, what I mean, Like,

536
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: she's just like, what if like girls like had power, yeah,

537
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: and they were untanned and they finally stopped being tamed

538
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: in cages. What if the girls played soccer. Here's why

539
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: I do think she's tight flannel. I so argue, I

540
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: just I'm dying on the non type. Well, you haven't

541
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: even really offered a ton of evidence why she isn't

542
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: that because because but she's so ree with her Spoons

543
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: book club in Reese like, yes, but I don't think it.

544
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: Maybe if she'd go to James, which she has I'm

545
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: sure she sent, and Reese is being like, Glannen, you

546
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: would look amazing in this flannel, and she's like, I

547
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: never wear flannel. I just don't see it. I've never

548
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: seen her in a flannel. I think it's like it's

549
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: it's a Christian chrisp button button downs at the Dead

550
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Dog and big sweater. I guess I'm just talking about

551
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: she's always like on a zoom podcast, like that's all.

552
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: She's just like zoom glasses now, and I just I'm

553
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: with you on the Worbies, big zoom glasses. Okay, drolls

554
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: out on flannel and we'll come back, guys, with the flannel.

555
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: M Yeah, these things are getting weirdly and I and

556
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: I need to I'll give you this. Okay, she wears

557
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: Abby's flannel boyfriends boyfriend. Yeah, she's a very boyfriend shirt. Okay,

558
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: but you're right about big Chris and abbous like, Babe,

559
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: when can I get my shirt bag? Because now I'm like,

560
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: because there's something so coffee, because like coffee min because

561
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: our entire personality so like it is a little bit

562
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: Abby's even like Abby's big Chris button down that Abby

563
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: hates wearing, and she's like, oh, I just want to

564
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: be in my golf shorts, play on the trump links,

565
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: like how do they live? Say it with us? I

566
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: love that someone in a high bed. Okay, yeah, yeah,

567
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: well no, I think but we had that argument. I

568
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: think we know that it actually is maybe a little

569
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: bit low. I know, but it's not like emotionally low.

570
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: Well because Abby is low, Glennon is high, so it's medium.

571
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: Glennon needs like stairs to get to bed. Sorry. Yeah.

572
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: Also actually, oh because she's like such a little Pomeranian. Yeah,

573
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: and they have like little dogs that are like hopping

574
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: up and in Paris held in't way you know what

575
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean end cats. Yeah, like the cat is seventeen

576
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: years old and the dog is too. Yeah. Yeah, they're

577
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: so seventeen year old. Know what I'm talking about. I'm

578
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: just saying fems be having seventeen year old cats. No

579
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: one keeps a cat alive like Christian fem and that's

580
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: on God. Okay, yeah, fair enough. Um. I do think

581
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: their art is very They have like Hiatt like great, well,

582
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: they have that insane like caricature of Bob Dylan that's

583
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: like floor to ceiling in the living room because he's

584
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: like a cheetahs, a cheetah, he's untamed. They only have

585
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: cheetah art like I feel like the cheetahs like and

586
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: like a Chehuli esque light fixture. Yeah, I mean obviously

587
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: the couch is so big, like it's as big as

588
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: this entire room, I think. And they're gathering there for

589
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: their like movies and it's a violent movie, and Glennon

590
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: is like, why am I having my boys be exposed

591
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: this violence? But then I remembered it's to assassin to

592
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: a movie, and I need to let them decide. Because

593
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: there's this whole point where she gets mad at Abbey

594
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: for watching one show during the middle of the day. Oh,

595
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: because she's like, day isn't for TV. Yeah, she's being

596
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: so like a and then she's like actually like and

597
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: she calls herself in because she's mad at herself for

598
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: not being able to relax during the day. And then

599
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: it is even more turned on by abby she can

600
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: she cannot turn it on. Very exhausting and like, you know,

601
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: we do have to we should sympathize with that on

602
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: some level. Does seem one more thing about their house.

603
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: I feel like they're California stuff. They're using a lot

604
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: of water for the grounds. Yeah, they're not so much.

605
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: They're no I mean I will say non native plants, no,

606
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: non native vegetation, and they're not like I mean, her

607
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: cause is not like environmentalism by anything together together and

608
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: sometimes being together like me and what I mean in

609
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: shipment gravel, the paper towelery in that house, well yeah costco.

610
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: Like it's tons of there. There's like seven backup pantries

611
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: that she's rolling out of bedroom. She is like triangled,

612
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: just like I feel like she is this bounty ad

613
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: Like when there's a mask, she's like who cares bounty

614
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: and like unrolls an entire role for like some Molmon milk.

615
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: She's so that like company Grove that just sells Miss Myers,

616
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: but it's like the separate company that sells you a

617
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: caddie of Miss Myers. She okay, they are Miss Myers spray,

618
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: but not Miss Myers handsome. Oh sorry, shots fire, Yeah,

619
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: SHOT's absolutely fired. I don't think they're that echo and

620
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: like that like Brooklyn, it's actually too eco. She needs

621
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: something more like wasteful. Yeah, I think she has, or

622
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: it's like a faux French that she actually got at

623
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: Home Goods that's on discount that's like oh ninety nine

624
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 1: like Lagus. Yeah. Yeah, that house is so and she's

625
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: buying tons of hooks. It's like every room has like

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Speaker 1: an overpowering scent to it. Well, isn't there that scene

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Speaker 1: that's because she's like her velvet skin, her like strong,

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Speaker 1: downy teddy bear bleach scent on her charcoaled ease. It's

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Speaker 1: just like reeks of like baby diaper powder, like in

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Speaker 1: every room in that house. She doesn't turn off for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm so badass, you're so cool Stephen French. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: who are you on the boat? Okay, I'm not You're

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Speaker 1: not glenn thank you, And I almost think you're her sister,

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Speaker 1: who's the corporate lawyer that then goes to Rwanda and

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Speaker 1: starts an organization like widows like get their land back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's widows Land. And then and you cry in Glennon's

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Speaker 1: basement apartment for a full year as Glennon, by the way,

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Speaker 1: held vigil outside of her sister's door in her basement.

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Speaker 1: The sister never knew. She literally would just bring candles

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Speaker 1: and stand outside the door. Now, say, if you knew

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Speaker 1: your sister was holding candles outside your door as you

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Speaker 1: like cried about your axe, you'd be like literally stalker

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Speaker 1: like the absolute insane performative victim Marie and narcissism of

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Speaker 1: these kids are liked and hello, I'm six, like, and

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Speaker 1: she's like, I'm holding vigil for your aunt who got

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Speaker 1: your aunt who got dumped, hold vigil with me, and

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Speaker 1: then went on to start a real charity actually yeah

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Speaker 1: for widows. Yeah, thank you. And also that sister found

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Speaker 1: a man after the widow charity, yeah, which is so me.

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Speaker 1: I'm always getting land back and then finding man after

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Speaker 1: you started charity. Okay, um, are you the sun not?

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Speaker 1: Like doesn't I think? Yeah? And then was finally told

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Speaker 1: to wash the dishes. Yeah, because I'm honestly really not

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Speaker 1: Abby at all. The I don't stand while watching TV. No, no,

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Speaker 1: you park, I'm a going park on a big couch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like Glennon's always posting, Abby's standing this close to a TV,

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Speaker 1: cheering and being like she's watching the golf. Yeah, she's

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Speaker 1: watching the basketball. No you commit, I commit, I park

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Speaker 1: you you settle in to watch like a thirty second

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Speaker 1: Instagram video this. Yeah, and that's what I love about you. No,

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Speaker 1: it's so cool Like I, yes, I you know, aspire

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Speaker 1: here's the thing I do again, As I said, I

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Speaker 1: do think she's probably insufferable in real life. I give

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Speaker 1: this book like four out of five crosses, Like no,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's really enjoyable to read, like every page

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm almost giving it one four point five

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Speaker 1: huge coffee mugs from home Goods. Wow, that's say. I

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Speaker 1: love my wife. But I love coffee more. It was

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Speaker 1: just like reading it, you're like, and I have to say,

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Speaker 1: actually started reading this a year ago and I had

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Speaker 1: to put it down because I was like, you're two insane.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't ready because I was tamed. Yeah, you were

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Speaker 1: stalking in the perimeter of your cape, my caged in zoo.

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Speaker 1: I was given the food they gave me at the zoo. U.

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Speaker 1: There was a world out there you wanted to sleep under,

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Speaker 1: under the stars, under the miss sky of San Francisco. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, so four point and the audio, I mean,

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Speaker 1: she's absolutely insane. Her Instagram's insane. Yeah, she's a mad woman,

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Speaker 1: absolutely mad as psycho to the boots like unhinged. N Well,

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Speaker 1: she literally says like, we're crazy Cheetas in the world.

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Speaker 1: To be crazy cheat is rare? Is that I don't

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Speaker 1: know is she doesn't really rare no more. It's more

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Speaker 1: like big Mew, like, you guys were Cheetas and your cheats,

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Speaker 1: your cheeta, Cheeta Cheta. You're a cheetah. We are not

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Speaker 1: in a cage tonight. Listen, let yourself free, break the chains,

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Speaker 1: kill the zookeeper out of Chicago. Hold the zookeeper, here

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Speaker 1: go to Chicago. I don't care if you meet someone,

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Speaker 1: stare at someone and say, there she is, play in

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Speaker 1: her mural, sulker, do whatever it does, make your son,

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Speaker 1: wash your body, raise and if you want to, Bill,

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Speaker 1: take a pill, but don't overtake a pill. But go shopping,

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Speaker 1: but only if you need to. And you're right because

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Speaker 1: you are all Alicia Keys, don't wear makeup, but wear

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Speaker 1: makeup you want it because fuck it. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming, you guys so much. That's our show.

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Speaker 1: That's our show. We love you so much, like we

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Speaker 1: love you much. But show um tip your bartender. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to coming, Thank you John for watching. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to my mother Maureen. Thank you to Poesia please go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to these chairs. Thank you. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: Stephen Philip's horse. Oh wow, Okay, there he is and

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Speaker 1: there you are. Okay, best Best Celebrity book. I was

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Speaker 1: produced by my ex husband who I'm so very close with,

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Fresh, with editorial support from Leon Napop and Andrew Parsons,

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Speaker 1: What an amazing venue. What is supportive venue? Thank you

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Speaker 1: also to Miguel Penya for the audio assistance there. You

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