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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy Di Dario. Growing up, I always pretended that

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Speaker 1: I was in a boy band. So my millennial heart

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Speaker 1: is bursting with joy because pop Music Royalty Nick Carter

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Speaker 1: of the Backstreet Boys is on my show today. The

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Speaker 1: Backstreept Boys are hailed as being the best selling boy

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Speaker 1: band in history and rank among the world's top selling

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Speaker 1: music artists of all time. Nick Man, he has been

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Speaker 1: an artist bringing so much joy for decades, and he's

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Speaker 1: at it again with his into the Millennium Residency at

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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Sphere, which is running right now. Oh

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Speaker 1: and he also had his most recent solo album called

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Speaker 1: Love Life Tragedy, released earlier this year, hit number one worldwide.

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Speaker 1: Nick Carter has proven time and time again that he

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Speaker 1: is here to stay. So let's see if today we

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Speaker 1: can get Nick to say something that he has never

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Speaker 1: said before. Nick Carter, how you doing, my man?

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Speaker 2: Very good? Thank you so much. Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm psyched to have you. I know you have

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Speaker 1: a lot going on which we're going to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot to talk about. We're sorry, I'm really

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Speaker 3: been super busy. They've been doing a lot of baseball

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Speaker 3: and spending time with my kids now that they're on

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Speaker 3: summer break, so and then obviously doing work here in

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Speaker 3: Vegas on Spear So it's been been busy but really awesome. Ryan. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well we're going to celebrate all of that because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to get into, but I guess to

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Speaker 1: kick off this conversation, it's to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: celebrate you for a minute. I think it's so cool

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Speaker 1: because when I think about you and your career and

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Speaker 1: what you've done. You know, the Backstreet Boys were they

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Speaker 1: kind of birthed this like golden era of the pop

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Speaker 1: renaissance so to speak, right, Like you guys came before

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Speaker 1: in singing and Brittany and Christina and then everyone kind

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Speaker 1: blueprint in many ways of what pop music should and

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Speaker 1: what the vibe is in the style of Like do

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Speaker 1: you kind of feel that way too?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that we were definitely a part

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Speaker 3: to the kind of music that we were doing with Britney,

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Speaker 3: back Street and Sync ninety degrees, like all these guys

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Speaker 3: that were you know, in late nineties, early two thousands,

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Speaker 3: and it was a special time because technology really atn't

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Speaker 3: had to go to a concert. Everybody. Things were tangible.

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Speaker 3: You were buying CDs, you were you know, hanging out

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Speaker 3: enjoying like things in the moment. And I think that

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Speaker 3: is that people are are kind of reliving that in

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Speaker 3: That's why they're coming to these uh to sphere and

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Speaker 3: and it's very nostalgic for for for people and they're

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Speaker 3: and we're seeing it's kind of in a way of

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Speaker 3: bringing a lot of people together. You know, things are

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Speaker 3: I'm very proud to be a part of a very

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Speaker 3: and you see her or in sync or whatever. You know,

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Speaker 3: We dance, we sing, We you know, were performers, were

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys put in the work and and I'm

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Speaker 1: you and like the choices you make that could change everything.

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Speaker 1: And I know when you started out, you kind of

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Speaker 1: Club was popping off. It was hot, people loved it,

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Speaker 3: I'm always been, I guess, risky and a sort of

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Speaker 2: And I was given the choice. You know.

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Speaker 3: I remember having a conversation with my mom and she's like, well,

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Speaker 3: year later, the Nickey Mouse Club went off the air.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously some of those kids made it out

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Speaker 3: and I ended up at backs people A and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think it worked out for the best. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love that story because you just you never know

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Speaker 1: where life can take him if you're brave enough to

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Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. All right, you mentioned this residency.

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Speaker 1: It's like flooding my social media. Everywhere I look it

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Speaker 1: you do something like this, such a big show, how

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Speaker 1: Are you like, well, what well the fans like? Or

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Speaker 2: What's that like? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, it started with the Millennium album, and I think

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Speaker 3: we wanted that to be the core of, you know,

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Speaker 2: This was way before.

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Speaker 3: We had the opportunity with US Sphere and we we.

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Speaker 3: This was years ago, and you know, things got busy

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying is that, you know, the core of

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Speaker 3: we have a lot of records that very grateful for

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Speaker 3: So we just built it all around the Millennium album.

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Speaker 3: So it was like, you know, a show, show first

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Speaker 3: you know, I like the same music was really the best.

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Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's there's something to be said

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Speaker 2: Oh God, I think the.

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Speaker 3: Songs that stand out and our front to performance Siberia,

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Speaker 3: great visuals that go with it. I really like this

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's awesome because we have not performed those

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there's Spanish Eyes, there's no one else comes close.

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Speaker 3: and those songs right there are really great. There's also

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Speaker 3: Millennium two point zero, which has like a.

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Speaker 3: I actually was hating on the song a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, I don't know if we should

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Speaker 3: I'm not happy to perform that.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, I never really necessarily liked the version

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Speaker 3: that was on the record, but we performed it on

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Speaker 3: the Millennium tour way back when and fans liked it.

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Speaker 3: And now that we're doing it, it's kind of retro sounding,

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Speaker 1: You know, you never know, all right, playing a little choy.

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Speaker 1: I like your style, give the give the fans something

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Speaker 2: Forever because it's such a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: But as we wrap up, the name of the show

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say this. I I never wanted fame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it's nice that you've created as normal of

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Speaker 2: Nick, is such a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Man. I grew up rocking and rolling with you guys,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you're part of pop culture history forever,

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Speaker 1: so I look forward to seeing what's next. You're always

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: I've never said this before. Is hosted by me Tommy Dederio.

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