WEBVTT - Starring Judith Hoag as Gwen Piper in "Halloweentown"

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, thank you so much for joining us over

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<v Speaker 1>here on our park Hopper episode. As we are every week,

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<v Speaker 1>very excited to speak to our guests, but I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little extra excited because Halloween Town was amazing and so

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<v Speaker 1>much fun. But April O'Neil and teenage mutant Denjit Turtles.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very important movie for me growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>I also have a weird connection to this movie, which

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<v Speaker 1>we will get into, but please help us welcome Judith Hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, how are you? I am good? It's raining

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<v Speaker 2>in Nashville. Oh so I love it. Yes, and we

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<v Speaker 2>have such fall vibes here.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm so jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to thank you first for coming because

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<v Speaker 1>I know, especially around this time of year, you must

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<v Speaker 1>just get in its busy. That's good. That's how we

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<v Speaker 1>like to do it, like to catch everybody early and

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<v Speaker 1>get it in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to be here and talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>because tis the season.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes it is. And we just watched the first Halloween Town.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I've seen it. I was a fan when I

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<v Speaker 4>was younger. I will say, rewatching it, I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>had to remember so much of the things that happened

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<v Speaker 4>in the movie. But this was Will's first time seeing

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<v Speaker 4>the movie. He hadn't seen it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Virgin I was.

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<v Speaker 4>He which I was happy because you know, some of

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<v Speaker 4>the d coms sometimes they don't they don't hit the mark. No,

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<v Speaker 4>but this one, being such a huge franchise, we both

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<v Speaker 4>knew going into it, you know, there's a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>love and it and for me it was the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>nostalgia of it was incredible. For Will, I loved that

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<v Speaker 4>it lived up to this big franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>Names good if you have kids, it's really you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a funny because who knew, you know, when we

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<v Speaker 2>did this film, it was just a it was a

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<v Speaker 2>standalone film. It was the Disney Channel really in its infancy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of the very first movies that they did, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, back in those days, there was this demarcation

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<v Speaker 2>line film and television. Either you were a film actor

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<v Speaker 2>or a television actor, and then there were those of

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<v Speaker 2>us who were trying to straddle both and going, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get what the big deal is, Like, it's all acting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like you're driving a car. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>a Mercedes? Or is you go you're still driving a car.

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<v Speaker 2>I know most people are going to be like, what

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<v Speaker 2>is she talking about you? I'm aging myself. But then

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<v Speaker 2>there was the Disney Channel, and that was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like No Man's land because it was just for kids

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<v Speaker 2>and if you were as serious actor, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>were doing serious acting. And but I was sent the

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<v Speaker 2>script and then I was told that Debbie Reynolds was

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<v Speaker 2>attached to it, and so a legend, a legend, and

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<v Speaker 2>so pretty much I was in, Yeah, she's doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>And now all of those demarcation lines are gone and

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. And Disney Channel, on its own, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just grew into what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>British British actors got it a lot quicker than American

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<v Speaker 1>actors set television, film.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't matter if the piece is good, the piece

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<v Speaker 3>is good.

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<v Speaker 1>And you had people like sir Ian McKellen doing a

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<v Speaker 1>sitcom because it was good.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, it's acting, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You just want to do it and you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a snob about it. And there was real

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<v Speaker 2>pressure in the industry to be quite snobbish about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just never laid right with me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get that too.

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<v Speaker 4>Had you worked with Disney before on any other I had, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Had done like pilots for Disney. I had I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to remember at that point, had ABC. No, it was

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<v Speaker 2>pre ABC Disney.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the right time because I was show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and so, and I had sort of started on

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<v Speaker 2>ABC in a soap opera, you know, my very first

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<v Speaker 2>one of my very first jobs in New York. And

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean it was Disney. We all grew up

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<v Speaker 2>with Disney and and I lived, you know, in Studio City,

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<v Speaker 2>so I drove past Disney studios all the time. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was like an an amazing building and all. You know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was iconic and and of course Debbie was iconic

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<v Speaker 2>and is still iconic even after she's not with us anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>She remains an icon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, we always say that actors don't die, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just unavailable. Yes, yes, she would love that.

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<v Speaker 2>She would love that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they don't also don't age.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Is so then did they just offer you

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<v Speaker 3>the role or you No.

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<v Speaker 2>I went in and met with the head of Disney

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<v Speaker 2>and the executive producer and it was a very sweet script.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right. So, you know, sometimes you go back

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<v Speaker 2>and you watch the things that you liked when you

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<v Speaker 2>were little, and you're like wah wah wah, and this

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<v Speaker 2>just had a tremendous amount of heart in it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it had so much sweetness to it. But

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<v Speaker 2>the head of Disney Channel at the time, Sun was

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<v Speaker 2>a huge Ninja Turtle fan. So when I walked in

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<v Speaker 2>the room, he said, you know, I would love to

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<v Speaker 2>get it, you know, an autograph for my son. And

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<v Speaker 2>he loved it, and you know, what did you think?

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<v Speaker 2>And and we just talked about it. And I might

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<v Speaker 2>have read, I might not have read. I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 2>but I knew kind of when I walked out the door,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, I'll be really surprised if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get that job. Yeah, And I really like them both,

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<v Speaker 2>and share a stringer with the executive producer and it

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<v Speaker 2>was her first execu producing her EP job, and and

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<v Speaker 2>we just had we went on this adventure. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just supposed to be one film, and it did so

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<v Speaker 2>well programming wise, like it just broke all their records,

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<v Speaker 2>and they rushed the second one out and then really

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<v Speaker 2>they did.

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<v Speaker 4>They It was a quick, quick, it was around.

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<v Speaker 2>It was quick. But we didn't end up going back

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<v Speaker 2>to Saint Helens, Oregon, where we shot the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>We ended up going to Vancouver, Okay, and we did

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<v Speaker 2>the second one there, and then there was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more of a pause in between the second and

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<v Speaker 2>the third one, and then we went to Salt Lake

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<v Speaker 2>City and then we shot the last two there and

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<v Speaker 2>and I think, you know, on the fourth one, because

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't have our Kimberly, And it remains a mystery

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<v Speaker 2>why exactly Disney made that choice.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kimberly, Kimberly a pal. She's been already and she'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back again.

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<v Speaker 4>But I what, you know, how you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>a brilliant She was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>And negotiations are always challenging, Schedules are always challenging, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get all the pieces to come together. I learned

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<v Speaker 2>a long time about don't try to figure it out,

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<v Speaker 2>like it will make you crazy, because because there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many moving parts, there's so many things happening behind the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes that you don't know anything about, and sometimes the

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<v Speaker 2>cards shift and you're not supposed to be part of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, but what I'm like? She was such

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<v Speaker 2>the heart of it, and and we missed her. Sarah

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<v Speaker 2>Paxton came in, and Sarah was coming off of she

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<v Speaker 2>is a lovely young woman now a grown woman. She

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<v Speaker 2>was just come off of Aquamarine, and you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>had some really big shoes to fill. And my feeling was,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to embrace her, we have to love her,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to help her fit into these massive shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I think at that point, you know, high

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<v Speaker 2>School Musical was rising, rising, rising, and becoming the phenomenon

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<v Speaker 2>that it was. And then they were like, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>done because we thought, oh, this could keep going. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know four was it was a great run.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great run.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't think there'll be a fifth?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, never say never. Yeah, I mean they

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<v Speaker 2>did Holcus Focus, all right, I know true that it would.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm in I get to see the fans

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<v Speaker 2>a lot because I do a lot of comic cons.

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<v Speaker 2>I do a lot of comic cons with Kimberly and

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<v Speaker 2>also with Daniel Hurt now her husband. For anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know, it's Young Calibar in the second movie, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we are asked, it is astonishing the fan base

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<v Speaker 2>for this film. It's nuts, and it's worldwide. I was

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<v Speaker 2>in Saweta, South Africa about fifteen years ago in a

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<v Speaker 2>little restaurant, and I had a little girl come up

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<v Speaker 2>to me and say, oh, oh, you're a mother from Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, what I'm doing here? And you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was really kind of a surreal and wonderful moment. And

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<v Speaker 2>and so we would all love to do it again. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always you know, is Disney on board and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the script? But fans have devoted all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>time to coming up with what that story would be.

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<v Speaker 2>They I'm constantly handed scripts and outlines. Really oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>oh there is a thirst. You can't even well.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a place that the where you guys filmed

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<v Speaker 4>an Oregon is set up for people to tour. Isn't

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<v Speaker 4>that what we heard from?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, it's it's Saint Helen's, Oregon. And it's a

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<v Speaker 2>sweet little town that when the highway came through, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of sending people through town, they sent them off in

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<v Speaker 2>another direction and so the town kind of lost its luster.

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<v Speaker 2>People moved away. It's, you know, sort of a classic

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<v Speaker 2>American story. But it's the sweetest little town. It's right

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<v Speaker 2>on the water, and they transformed it into such a

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<v Speaker 2>magical place and it was really smart because the town,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, council or something. I think somebody came to

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<v Speaker 2>them maybe with an idea, and the town council paid

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<v Speaker 2>for it and it turned into a celebration. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where it is right now, if they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep doing it. I know that there's been some changes

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<v Speaker 2>that I think, honestly, we're overdue. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're going to try to remake it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know that, you know, every time we go back, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just this great trip down memory lane, and the fans

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<v Speaker 2>really love it.

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<v Speaker 3>So were the first two done there? Or just the

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<v Speaker 3>first one?

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<v Speaker 2>Just the first one? The first one, okay, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was the town square was such was like a character

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<v Speaker 2>in the film. Yeah, yes, and so and on the

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<v Speaker 2>city hall. And what it did is it really brought

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<v Speaker 2>tourism back to Saint Helen's, Oregon. And it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the first I know, the first time Kimberly went back.

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<v Speaker 2>She went back by herself, and I think there were

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<v Speaker 2>on it might have been one night or two nights,

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<v Speaker 2>and on that first night there was like fifteen thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nuts crazy. Yeah, And then we did a

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<v Speaker 2>tribute to Debbie Reynolds and it was it was Cray

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<v Speaker 2>there was they took very seriously, so we had like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think we needed it at all, but

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<v Speaker 2>they had like a police escort and we were like,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like this is a kid's movie. Everything, like

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's gonna happen. It was, yeah, it was, but also

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<v Speaker 2>like come on, like we're fine, Yeah, we're going up

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<v Speaker 2>in here. This is all about love and uh no,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was. It was pretty funny. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is the closest I've ever been to

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<v Speaker 2>being a Beatle. And you know, Luke Perry was a

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<v Speaker 2>really dear friend of mine. God rest his soul. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was saying that when he was doing nine O

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<v Speaker 2>two one oh, like he had to be smuggled out

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<v Speaker 2>of a hotel in a laundry basket, and he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like being a beetle man. It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>He had There are times there was there's video of

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<v Speaker 1>him like if he he was going to do a

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<v Speaker 1>mall appearance, and there are people like almost jumping to

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<v Speaker 1>get team.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to rush them all I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was a guy who really didn't He was

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<v Speaker 2>a super fun guy. I love him. He's like a brother.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was not like he was never courting. That

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<v Speaker 2>was never the thing he was aiming for. He just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a good actor. He wanted to act,

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to have a career, and that was a

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<v Speaker 2>surreal I think when that all died down, he felt

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of relief. I know some actors don't always

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way. They're like, yeah, he was not the

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<v Speaker 2>I need more guy at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you do this movie pre social media? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>free any of the internet. Really, it's just it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties. God love him, I miss him all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know or.

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<v Speaker 1>Have any idea how popular the film was when it

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<v Speaker 1>came out?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when it came out, yes, because you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was in the trades. You know, they broke Disney. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say it like that, but I mean we really

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<v Speaker 2>gave We got numbers that they had never gotten, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was it helped to legitimize that, especially having someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Debbie and having you know, people there from film

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<v Speaker 2>because there's that line and really, I'm so glad it's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>But they they knew they had something and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>they rushed it out. Now when we were doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>just you never know and you hope, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>really lightning in a bottle. Like I've done so many things,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been fortunate enough that I've been attached to or

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<v Speaker 2>part of projects that have that have a longer life

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<v Speaker 2>than just when they came out where, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a great thing, but it's never guaranteed, and you never

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<v Speaker 2>really know if you're going to be in one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>But we did have Debbie Reynolds who was our fairy godmother,

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<v Speaker 2>and she so this was before social media, and Debbie

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<v Speaker 2>was the first actor that I had ever worked with

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<v Speaker 2>who traveled with stacks of eight x tens to sign

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<v Speaker 2>autographs because everywhere she went people asked her to sign

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<v Speaker 2>an autograph, and we used to, especially when we were

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<v Speaker 2>shooting the first film, So we had our trailers off

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<v Speaker 2>to one side and say we had to go and

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<v Speaker 2>shoot a scene in town hall or something or in

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<v Speaker 2>the town square. So we had to get from the

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<v Speaker 2>trailers to the town square. And it's a little town

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<v Speaker 2>in Oregon, and Hollywood has come to town, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to spend as much time as you can hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out watching, especially if you're a kid and you want

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<v Speaker 2>to an actor or you just want to be close

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<v Speaker 2>to this thing that's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's magical.

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<v Speaker 2>It's magical, it is, and so Debbie knew that, and

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<v Speaker 2>so she always had step to accommodate fans. And she

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<v Speaker 2>always stop and she always take a picture and people would,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she would just find autographs and hand them

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<v Speaker 2>out like handy. And it was this because it was

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<v Speaker 2>pre social media. I thought it was the funniest thing

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<v Speaker 2>I'd ever seen. And I was like, because I, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do that, but I wasn't Anny Reynolds, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't and I and one day we were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get to set and it took so long and

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<v Speaker 2>I just looked at her. Finally they're like, we need

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, and these are of graphics that I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at her and I loved her to death, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you could we were close enough that you could really

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<v Speaker 2>tease each other. And I said, oh my god, girl,

0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:40.280
<v Speaker 2>you would just pose with a coat hanger. And she

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<v Speaker 2>got serious. She looked at me and she said, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell you something. If you do not have fans,

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<v Speaker 2>you do not have a career. And it was one

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<v Speaker 2>of those moments. Debbie had a profound effect and influence

0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.200
<v Speaker 2>on all of us, and all of us have our

0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:07.120
<v Speaker 2>own stories of her. She was one of the most

0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 2>generous people. She was such a teacher in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was hilariously funny and saucy as hell and

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, swore like a sailor. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>but she started out, she started out she always like

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<v Speaker 2>presented as like a church lady. But that fell apart

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<v Speaker 2>like in ten minutes, and so when she got into

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<v Speaker 2>my face like that, it was like, I'm getting a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of information that's really really important. And it's true,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you don't have fans, if you're not kind

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<v Speaker 2>and generous and open hearted and keep your arms open

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<v Speaker 2>for them and embrace them and be curious about them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you won't have a career.

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<v Speaker 3>Because yeah, it's a completely smotic relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>It really really is. And I think that you have

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<v Speaker 2>to you they made you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, yeah, it's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, one of the things you talk about is

0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that you were involved with projects that have had longevity

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<v Speaker 1>and have the nostalgia attached.

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<v Speaker 3>So I gotta go a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit into teenage Mutant Ninja tourntles, which is for nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety This is I have a weird connect I told

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<v Speaker 1>them before I have a weird connection to this movie

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<v Speaker 1>because Michael Turney. Yeah, his mother was a manager in

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<v Speaker 1>New York and oh yeah, I came partners with my

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<v Speaker 1>manager in New York when I was a child actor

0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and manager, Steve Gold at gold Star Talent Management.

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<v Speaker 3>I was true well when I sided with them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I moved out to LA when I got

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<v Speaker 1>Boy mut World at sixteen, and I've been out here

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<v Speaker 1>ever since. But his mom so started managing me and

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<v Speaker 1>wanted him, because he was a city kid, to experience

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<v Speaker 1>life in the country. So she used to put him

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<v Speaker 1>on a bus to my family in Connecticut and we

0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:02.800
<v Speaker 1>used to hang out and he'd be like, where are

0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:03.400
<v Speaker 1>we going and be.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, We're going into the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like to do what, like just to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>That's where it.

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<v Speaker 2>So when he then said your chicken coop, yeah, well no, I.

0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Had didn't do the chicken cup. We did motorcycles all

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<v Speaker 3>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun stuff so that the kids could never do it right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he said I'm doing this movie Teenage Mutant

0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.399
<v Speaker 1>and Turtles, and I was like, wait what, And this

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 1>became I was so jealous.

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Turtle Green with Envy. So I'm curious, can you walk

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<v Speaker 1>us through a little Did you know the ip? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know what Teenage Mutant before?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, you know?

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<v Speaker 3>So what was that like when you heard about the project?

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<v Speaker 1>And were you just like, wait, so I'm essentially the

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend before Turtles.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the way that it went down is my agent

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<v Speaker 2>who left the planet. He sadly, he diedabates in nineteen

0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.399
<v Speaker 2>ninety one or ninety two. And he handed me the

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<v Speaker 2>script and he called it Teenage Mutant Ninjain Turtles and said,

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<v Speaker 2>now they're Ninjain Turtles. I was like, what is that?

0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:09.159
<v Speaker 2>And he said ignore the title. And I thought it

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:13.359
<v Speaker 2>was handing me a horror script and for a scary

0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 2>movie or something. And he said, but it's a very

0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:19.240
<v Speaker 2>sweet role and it's a really sweet film. So at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, I was doing a movie with Robin

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<v Speaker 2>Williams called Cadillac Man. It was Robin Williams friend dresser.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was a underrated, underrated Robin Williams movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally underrated, heeddy, yeah, it was a great cast. And

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<v Speaker 2>so on Fridays, so we shot in Queens, New York

0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and then I had to fly and do pre protection

0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.680
<v Speaker 2>in Wilmington, North Carolina, and so I would always try

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of work on Fridays as early as possible.

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.600
<v Speaker 2>And I was it was kind of an improv movie

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:59.480
<v Speaker 2>and like you could weasel your way out a little

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.920
<v Speaker 2>early because they never knew like who was going to

0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 2>be in the shot and you know, And so I

0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.080
<v Speaker 2>would try to get out of there. And one time

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Robin looked at me and he said, where are you

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.960
<v Speaker 2>running off to. You're all like you're trying to get

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 2>out of the movie. You we're all trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie. And I said, oh, I'm actually doing

0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 2>another movie. And he said, he said what are you doing?

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:32.520
<v Speaker 2>And Robin was another totally influential, very generous actor. And

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, oh God, I can't believe I have to

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 2>say these words out loud. And I said, I'm doing

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 2>movies called tenage Mutant. What what? And I said, it's

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:46.440
<v Speaker 2>it's called a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Now ignore the title.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really sweet screw. And he said they're making

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<v Speaker 2>a movie of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, how would you know this? And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>are you playing April I about died and I said yeah,

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and he said, I have all the comic books. And

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<v Speaker 2>I knew about the comic books. I didn't know about

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<v Speaker 2>that it was a TV show, and so he helped

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 2>like get me out on Fridays. And then finally I

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 2>shot out in the film, and then or they wrapped

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:24.560
<v Speaker 2>me out of the film, and then I went to Wilmington.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when we premiered at Universal, he flew down

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<v Speaker 2>from San Francisco with his whole family and it meant

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<v Speaker 2>the world to me.

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<v Speaker 3>That really awesome.

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 2>And then Kevin Eastman, who is the creator with Peter

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Laird of Ninja Turtles, was in a comic book store

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.679
<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco and saw Robin and went up to

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>him and said, oh, mister Williams, I'm just a huge

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 2>family named Kevin Eastman. I'm the creator of everyone teenage.

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<v Speaker 5>Too.

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<v Speaker 2>And then a friendship they started a friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow is awesome. Well, I am a voiceover actor. I

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>have been for twenty.

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Years in such a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it so much. And the only like really,

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<v Speaker 3>the only.

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<v Speaker 1>IP I've never been involved in that has killed me

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and I've come so close so many times is Teenage Turtles.

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<v Speaker 2>The only one. Well, next up is the last Ronan,

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<v Speaker 2>So you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, I know, I know. So what was what was

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:25.880
<v Speaker 3>shooting that film?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? It was really exciting? Well, first of all because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know anything about it, Like I had no idea.

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:40.959
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't conceptualize what a teenage mutant ninja turtle might

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:45.640
<v Speaker 2>look like. And I thought, are they on all fours?

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 3>They were as babies until they got stuck in the ooze.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened exactly. Oh that the first time I

0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.119
<v Speaker 2>flew to North Carolina and they took me in to

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 2>the creature shop. And the creature shop was Jim Henson

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 2>had a creature shop in London, and his son, Brian Henson,

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>he now runs Henson Company, brought all his guys to Wilmington,

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. They had come up with these animatronics, which

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 2>is this brand new technology never been used before. And

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I walked in and I saw them and they were

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<v Speaker 2>in They had one fully assembled where they had the head,

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>they had the body, they had the shell, they had

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the arms, they had the legs, and then they had

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 2>the puppeteer who was like Hello April, and the mouth

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>was moving and the eyes were moving and he's off

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to the side. And then I met the poor guys

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 2>who were playing the turtles and it was surreal, wildly exciting,

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, oh, this is so cool. But again,

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.439
<v Speaker 2>no idea if this film was going to be successful

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 2>or not. And legend has it they did a screening

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 2>of the film. New Line got the distribution rights. They

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:13.479
<v Speaker 2>did a screening over at Paramount for the film. It

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 2>was all adults. They're watching the film. Nobody laughed, nobody

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 2>got excited. It was just like a terrible screen wow.

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 2>And so a couple of producers left and thought, Okay,

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:32.199
<v Speaker 2>well that's it for us. We'll never work again. And

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>then the film opened up a couple of weeks later

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>and they thought, let's just drive around and see if

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>anybody is a Wing and there were lines around the block. Yeah,

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 2>it was that year, this little film. It kind of

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>helped put New Line on the map, even though you know,

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.199
<v Speaker 2>they had the Freddy movies and stuff, but this it

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 2>was in the top ten highest grossing movies of nineteen ninety.

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 2>And we had a whole battle pr wise with Pretty

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Woman in the newspaper every week that we were both

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 2>in the you know, in the theaters at the same time,

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>it was great fun.

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 3>It's a great I mean, it is a great movie.

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 3>It is it is.

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is way before people were doing decent

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>comic book adaptations. Yes, Batman had come out in eighty nine,

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>so there was people were open to more of a

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of cartoony look to things.

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 3>So when you took the grit and then the re

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 3>and then that you.

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Could see the turtle you bought the turtle you bought them,

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it was like, I'm in, yeah, you got it.

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm there.

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 2>But the difference with this movie that I think was

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>what made everybody so uncomfortable in the screening was it

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 2>was a little dark. Yeah it was, and there was

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.360
<v Speaker 2>there was some swearing, and that was you know, And

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>what I think what they did is I think that

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 2>everybody treats kids like they're supposed to be happy and

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>sunshiny and really this is the care free time of

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>your life. Well hi, yeah, childhood is traumatizing. Look at

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 2>all the adults walking around trauma, you know, traumatized. And

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>it didn't talk down to kids, it didn't. It wasn't

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 2>preaching anything to them. It was just showing this wonderful

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 2>slice of life back when kids were out smoking cigarettes, running,

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, doing all the things that they did that

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 2>they were allowed to do. They didn't have all the

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 2>hermetically sealed bags around them that kids have now and

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's why the movie has had such

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>staying power and the Turtle universe just keeps expanding. I'm

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>just stunned. I'm stunned.

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 3>So did were you asked to be in Secret of

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 3>the US did you decide not.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 2>To do it? Now? What happened is they fired me? What? Yeah,

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I have a little bit of a okay, so being

0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 2>cast as April, I you know they I am that

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 2>spirit of like, if I see things that I don't

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>agree with, I'm going to say something. And there were

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 2>things happening on that. So it's an ultra little budget movie, right.

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>It's Golden Harvest, which is a Chinese film company that

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 2>you know now they have to work with unions and stuff.

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 2>And we were working six days a week. We had

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 2>a full first unit, full second unit. You know, there

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>was so much that they had to do deal with

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>and there were so many corners getting cut and there

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 2>were safety issues. Stuntmen were getting hurt, they were getting

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>put back on planes, back back to China. You know,

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>there were things that were happening that were not cool,

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:44.959
<v Speaker 2>and I, being very April, spoke up. I'm a little sister.

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I had two older brothers. You had to like yell

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 2>to be heard. And not that I was yelling in

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 2>any way, but I was taught like, if you really

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>believe something, you should say something. What I didn't know

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 2>then and I learned very quickly, was a woman in

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood who has a point of view will probably get

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 2>herself fired. And they didn't want to hear what I

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 2>had to say because because honestly, I'm a young woman.

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>It's my first starring role in a film. You're if

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>this happened today, I would know how to say what

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I said defending like they wanted to cut out all

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 2>this stuff in the Farmhouse, which is such an important

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>part of the film, and they were saying, kids don't

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 2>care about that, it's just fluff. I was like, what

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>this is the story? This is like, you can't cut this,

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and not that that's my job, it's Steve Barron's job.

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>But they you know, they fired him, they fired me,

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>they like, and the second movie reflects all the changes

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 2>that they had. This lightning in a bottle and it

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 2>was such a huge success, and then they changed everything

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and that's doesn't make any sense, but that's what they did.

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I wasn't in the other one.

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bringing in Vanilla Ice did not save Secret of.

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Youth, No, but you so it's a great song, and

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 2>you guesn't think they did. But I, you know, it's

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>hard of being in the business. And obviously I hold

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>no grudges. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing.

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't I would have gotten really upset. For me,

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>it was like.

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 5>Welcome to Hollywood, baby, if you haven't promise to love

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:20.959
<v Speaker 5>you back.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 2>And it was like part of the process of like,

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 2>if you want to do this thing, you're gonna lose

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 2>an eye, you're gonna get knocked out, you're gonna you

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>got to keep getting back up, keep getting back up.

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 2>And and so while I would have loved to have continued,

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would have enjoyed those second and

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>third versions of how they were doing them.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes, you were only going to have more of an

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 4>opinion because you were going to be more invested in

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 4>and it's you know, it's it's hard because it is

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 4>so true. Nowadays, women know exactly how to get what

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 4>we want and we know we have a void.

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>We're still working on it.

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 4>We're still working on it, but it's a lot better

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 4>than it used to be, and we have more confidence

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 4>because we also have band together and we found like

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 4>our power, you know, in our voice.

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>And the thing about that film was in so many

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>ways it was like movie making summer camp, and we

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 2>were all in this thing together, and there like there

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 2>was creative like Steve barn Is an amazing director. It

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 2>was such a joy to work with him, and like

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>there was freedom to express yourself. But there were you know,

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>sometimes in the executive realms, there there are egos that

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 2>you inadvertently step on their space and it just happens,

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's sort of part of it. And honestly, don't

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>regret it because that's what April would have done. And

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I love that I still would have said those things

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't wrong.

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>No, you're also you didn't It's not like you weren't

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>asked back to be in Godfather too, So.

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>No Godfather three.

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right there, at the end of the day, you

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>don't really miss out too much by by not being

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>secret of the ooze.

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, and I have such a connection to the fans.

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I just leaned in hard during COVID because friend Dresher

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 2>is a friend of mine, and she was She's the

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 2>person who really started the table reads during COVID for

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>the fans. You know, we're all stuck in the house,

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 2>so let's let's do something for them. And so I

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 2>got everybody together, I had some help, and we did

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 2>a table read of not the whole script. I got

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 2>vetoed on that one, but I wanted to do the

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. And I just started seeing like how much

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 2>really doing comic cons, how much this means to the fans.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>It is the world and so full circle moment. Debbie

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Reynolds taught me everything I know about that and how

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 2>important it is to connect with them and to create

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 2>a space where they get to tell you what their

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 2>experience is. So I do.

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 3>I do the cons too, and they're the best, so

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 3>much fun.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully our paths will cross.

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm sure, I'm it is is.

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a weird little subculture, but it's so much fun.

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Great.

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's my favorite. I'm a nerd, it always have been.

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>So the world's just catching.

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Up with me as far as I'm concerned.

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I know, you know, the way that I look at

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 2>is the nerds win. Yes, they win, they won. They

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 2>were always the cool ones.

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I have a super hot wife and a great career.

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty happy.

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you put that on a man outside your house,

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 4>but you got it.

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 3>You got it.

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, I want to go back a little bit to

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 4>Halloween Town because sure some of the things, like our producers.

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 4>We've got these amazing producers. When I love best about them,

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 4>they are super fans. Oh so many things, especially I

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 4>love that everything else they I love it because they've

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 4>they have knowledge, They've got the way to figure out stuff.

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 4>So one of the things they told me, and I

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 4>was shocked, was that this budget of the film that

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 4>you guys had I wanted to see, Like we read

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 4>that it was only four million, and with the set design,

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 4>the costuming, the makeup, I mean, it seems like that

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 4>is little for what you guys really like achieved on

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 4>during the process of filming this. Do you remember how

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 4>they were pulling all that off? Was someone calling in

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 4>a friend who doing it for free, Like I just

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 4>it's crazy to see what you guys did with four

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 4>million dollars.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 2>We had one of the greatest designers who oh gosh,

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>what was his name? It was our production designer. It

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 2>will come to me in a second. It's coming up

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 2>through the memory banks and the only you get the

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>more youth store in there. And I learned if I

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 2>just give it a minute, it shows back up. But

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>he was such a genius. They were just really lucky

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>that Alfred Zoul Alfred he is no longer with us. Yes,

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>we loved the Googles, well, we loved, don't love, but

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 2>he was phenomenal. We had uh Dwayne Dunham, who was

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 2>one of the original editors on Star Wars.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you want to, you want to.

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>He won an Academy Award I think for for Return

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Jedi, which is crazy.

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And so we had a great helm, We had

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 2>a really fun script. We had a great cast. I mean,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>come on, those kids, you know, Kimberly Brown, j Paul Zimmermann,

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Emily Rose. I mean, it was just uh, Robin Thomas

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>as Calibar, I mean, and the creatures that we had,

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean they were they were brilliant, and so there

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 2>was so much that was that fed into it. But

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 2>were you a shitz Creek fan. Yes, yes, so in

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>the what is the Little movie they made? After as

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 2>like warmest regards or something, and they talked about like

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>the making of Shit's Creek and how they had no budget, right,

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 2>and they they somehow it, you know, the clothes and

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.919
<v Speaker 2>everything was just so amazing. I think sometimes when you're

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>limited by no budget, it forces you to be way

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 2>more creative than you would be if you had a

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of money. And I think we see that sometimes

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>in movies that have gigantic budgets. It's like, where's the

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 2>creativity here? It's like they just threw money at everything.

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 2>So while you always want more money, sometimes it's you know,

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 2>necessity is the mother of creation, and so they had

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 2>to dig deep.

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, they got your director on board by

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>telling him the budget.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 3>It was thirty million.

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't know that's oh.

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>So he was originally told there was going to be

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a thirty million dollar movie and then they went, sorry,

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.720
<v Speaker 1>it's four you've.

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Heard me wrong.

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Slightly different budgets, yes, shocking.

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 2>That Hollywood wouldn't tell the truth about something.

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, thinking a Disney channel was going to

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 4>have a thirty minute We've done quite a few in

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 4>this was.

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Probably there are budget for a couple of years, years exactly.

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, thinking that that was the truth, I mean,

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 4>that's that's crazy. But when you did the second as

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 4>you went through the franchise, what we've seen with others

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 4>and talking to other people with big franchises and the

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 4>budget builds, did you guys see that as well? I mean,

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 4>are we go because we haven't. I haven't seen. I've

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 4>only seen the first one. I haven't seen the second

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 4>or third one, fourth. I bet you've done because he's seen.

0:37:56.200 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I will say this. I want to say this gracefully.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Certain studios aren't known for being very forthcoming with their dollars.

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we've said many times, we've all were all Disney kids,

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>all Disney kids.

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 3>We loved being Disney kids.

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 2>But they are.

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 3>But they were company.

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.720
<v Speaker 2>They were a type fisted company.

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>They are.

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>And if they could get you to sell your dog

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.879
<v Speaker 2>and give them the money, I said, they can put

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>it into craft service. They would y And that's probably

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 2>too harsh, but I'm saying I'm joking. But but not

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 2>and they definitely they would spend a little bit more,

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 2>but not a lot more. Right, we got paid a

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit more, but not a lot more, but there

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 2>were little There were enough increases to keep you coming back.

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I think for all the departments, for the directors, for

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>the art directors, for the you know, the production designers

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.720
<v Speaker 2>and all that, and so it did increase, but never

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I think where you would hope.

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, do you now do you know the genesis

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 3>of Halloween Town? Do you know how it started?

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I've heard stuff, but it sounds like you might have. Yes.

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, well it started with a question to the producers

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>from their child who said, yeah, where did the creatures

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>go on the thirty?

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 3>After the thirty first? All of them that were on

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 3>the street, where do they go?

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>So they wrote a thing for NBC which was going

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to be an adult version, like a real hard edge

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>hitting So maybe that's.

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Where the thirty million dollar budget they were able to

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 3>say that was going to happen.

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:40.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so that's I mean, it was to see

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>how you get from that to what we just saw

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>with four million dollars at Disney Channel as opposed to

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>however many tens of millions of dollars it would have

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>been on NBC. You see the different variations and versions

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that Halloween Town went through.

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 4>And like you said, you guys were sort of the

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 4>pioneers of or part of that, the first of having

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.240
<v Speaker 4>these big numbers and everything. Even though they were excited

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 4>for the second one, they really didn't have any guarantee

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 4>that it was going to keep, that it was going

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 4>to be just as good, if not better. You know

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 4>that they were still figuring out. And this is one

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 4>thing Will and I are seeing as we're watching all

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 4>these different d cooms. This was the era of them

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 4>kind of figuring out what is a real dcom? Where

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 4>are we what's what's the bar? You know, how high

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 4>do we you know, set it and everything? And I

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 4>mean something like Halloween Town blew through any expectation they

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 4>probably ever had for this movie.

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Well you want to have a fun night, watch Halloween

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Town first and then go watch the new Zombies movie

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>when it comes out, which has a forty million dollar

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>budget for Disney Channel. Oh yeah, yes, yeah, And so

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you see what you helped to create.

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 4>Create, Yes, because we are for them.

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we watched the budgets change and just

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>across the board, like when when it started to go crazy.

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 2>And I remember I did a film called Armageddon and

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 2>with Michael Bay and at that time it was the biggest,

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 2>which is also it was a touchdown Disney picture, and

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 2>it was the biggest. It was like one hundred and

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty million dollars, which then was the biggest budget ever.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 3>It's like nothing ever and.

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 2>That it just kept growing, growing, growing, growing growing, And

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:47.320
<v Speaker 2>now it's so astronomical that it's so hard to make films.

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 2>And I and they're you know, they pin all their

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 2>hopes on the tent pole film, and I think what

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 2>people really are craving are some of these you.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Know, filmmakers actually made movies again.

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that are a little less I know,

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 2>you know all this stuff.

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Fun fact about Armageddon, if you take out all the

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>slow motion, it's only fourteen minutes long.

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people aren't weren't aware of that when

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>they actually saw it. It's a very just people just

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>walked normally. It's a fourteen minute film.

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, such a fun I had lunch with Steve Buscemi

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 2>every chance I got, and it was such a great cast.

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 3>It was an incredible cast.

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing lived Tyler first thing in the morning, coming

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to the makeup trailer with no makeup and just looking dewy,

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 2>fresh and delicious and stunning. I'm sure stunning, it was like,

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 2>and she was just as sweet and kind as could be.

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>So it was it was fun.

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 3>So speaking of cast, are you entire with anybody from

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Halloween Town still?

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes, I was at Kimberly and Daniel's wedding. Oh nice,

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was so good. It was so good.

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Kimberly was thirteen years old when we first

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 2>started working together, and I and we've stayed in touch

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 2>the whole time, and we were friends in La and

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 2>we'd get together and we walked, and it was really

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 2>fun when she got to be old enough where she

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>could come over and have a cocktail. And when you

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>moved from you know, mother daughter to friends, although we

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 2>were never mother daughter because she, you know, she had

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 2>a mom. But I was definitely tasked on that set.

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, if I'm working with kids, like you've got

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 2>to wrangle the kids, and it's a it's a challenging thing.

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 2>People always ask me like, oh, my kid's so talented.

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.919
<v Speaker 2>Should they be in the business. I'm like, no, No,

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't do that. Why would you do that if

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>they want to be an actor? When they turn eighteen,

0:43:58.040 --> 0:43:59.879
<v Speaker 2>they could go get an agent and they could go

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 2>do auditions. It's hard, so hard to do though, I know,

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>But but I had worked with and we know the stories.

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Like some kids they're fine, they turn out fine, and

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot that don't. Yeah, and I felt like

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I'd seen kids be treated like there were adults on

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 2>sets in ways that you know, they can be pretty

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 2>rough with actors, like they're not always as tactful as

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe you would like or and I felt like, you know,

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 2>they're their job is and you know this, well, your

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 2>job is so much harder than everybody else's. You're getting up,

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>you're in rehearsals, you're shooting, and you're going to school.

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Every free moment you were spent going back to class

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and doing school and then coming back.

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 4>You would know, right, it's sober. I don't feel like

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 4>I learned anything.

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, I disagree entirely.

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I wasn't. How is that for you?

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 4>So I had I went to normal school and then

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 4>would book jobs I didn't have while I was really

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 4>in school, except for Bold and the Beautiful. My senior

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 4>year of high school. Oh god, she was reoccurring a like,

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, weekly type thing where I know Will's experience

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 4>was much different. Mine was going and doing guest starring,

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 4>So it was a couple of days here and there, commercials,

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, music videos, that kind of stuff. And I

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 4>was going and working for a couple of days and

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 4>coming back and I just, I mean, because it was

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 4>having a teacher for just a few it was like

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 4>having a substitute teacher in class, like on my regular class. Yeah,

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 4>I doesn't know what our lesson plan is. She's just

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 4>kind of given like basically homework to give us. So

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.720
<v Speaker 4>that's what I would do, is homework for three hours,

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 4>but throughout the day, because it was fifteen minutes here,

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 4>thirty five minutes there, you know, to build up the

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:47.319
<v Speaker 4>three hours for the day. I never learned anything. My

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 4>experience was different than Will's though, So I feel like you,

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, actual.

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Teacher relationship I did.

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.280
<v Speaker 1>We did seven seven years of Boy Me to World,

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.919
<v Speaker 1>and I was only I only did school the first year,

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 1>but my grades went from a C minus to an

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>A plus. I graduated highest honors. Because it's just you

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:09.439
<v Speaker 1>and a teacher for three hours, right, try to try

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to like you know, write notes to your friends and

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and get distracted when there's just one teacher sitting in

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>front of you, you can't. So my grades skyrocketed. Ben

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Savage went to Stanford writer went to Columbia. I mean

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>we all all went out and went to school. I mean, yeah,

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:27.839
<v Speaker 1>it was great.

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I loved it. But at the same time, I had

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 3>to fight to be an actor.

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's you know, I love that. And I

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 2>think that I was trying to fight to be an

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 2>actor and my parents were having none.

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of My parents were like, go to college

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 3>and like, and I did.

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't live in LA I grew up in

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 2>outside of New York and it wasn't yeah, there you go.

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I was in Westchester.

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 3>County, Okay, yeah, there you go.

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 2>And so but I saw so many kids who, you know,

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 2>like I did Nashville and so it was Lennon and

0:46:56.600 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Maysie Stella and you know, we did sixties and they

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 2>were there all six seasons, and they were I could

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 2>see the pressure mounting. I could see the you know,

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 2>and they're great, Oh my gosh there and they've turned

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 2>out beautifully. But it is a harder job for the

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.280
<v Speaker 2>kids than it is for the adults.

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.760
<v Speaker 3>And with the age is the problem.

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:23.399
<v Speaker 1>There's no line none, things that would you know, older women,

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that on the set that I weren't treating

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>me like I was fifteen. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's a strange world to be in, but

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it's also all I personally believe a lot of it

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 1>comes down to just the family you were raised in.

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm so close to my family that they

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>knew I had to do thet you They did.

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 4>Exactly I had. That was the same thing. I mean,

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 4>being around, you know, hearing other people's stories. It's like,

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 4>it's so sad to me because it just wasn't my experience.

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.439
<v Speaker 4>My parents were on set with me. Their eyes were

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 4>on me at all times, you know, yeah, and I

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 4>felt protected and I felt like they if there was

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 4>anything that was a little bit it wasn't, you know,

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 4>just don't do that. It was explained to me. This

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 4>is why, you know, because one day you're going to

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 4>be on a set by yourself if you want to

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 4>continue acting, and you need to be able to you

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 4>need to advocate for yourself, and you need to be

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 4>able to protect yourself and know how to not put yourself.

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>On so wait, so your parents essentially told you why

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't enjoy Halloween.

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 3>They didn't just not explain it to.

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 2>You exactly like in Halloween.

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Town, it's just you did You didn't at all, didn't

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>explain it at all.

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 5>But so you know, when I read a script, I

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 5>was like, what so much uh oh sounds can I be?

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:51.800
<v Speaker 2>So my experiences, oftentimes your given scripts where they don't

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 2>necessarily answer all the questions. So your job as an

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 2>actress to answer all the questions. And I thought, Okay,

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I am a witch who is pretending to be a human.

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I married a human. I have half human half witch children.

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I've seen et I know what happens so smart. If

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.839
<v Speaker 2>they knew that I had half witch kids, they would

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.839
<v Speaker 2>come and take my kids, yes, and they would do

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 2>exactly and that they would do experiments on them. And

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 2>then I imperil every single person who's in Halloween Town.

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 2>And so it was an act of love.

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping you alive by doing that, and that's why.

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't in the script, and I had to

0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 2>make that up and justify that for myself to understand

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:48.400
<v Speaker 2>why I was doing what I was doing. And it

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 2>was funny because my role was described in the script

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 2>as I was kind of like a Martha Stewart. I

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:56.439
<v Speaker 2>went in, Who's kind of perfect, and everything's kind of nice.

0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 2>And because we had no budget, you know, my clothes

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 2>literally probably came from Goodwill, right, And I went for

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 2>a fitting and it was like, this is glooing not

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 2>loving it.

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:09.760
<v Speaker 3>He said, Marcia. Marcia's right, Marcia.

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 2>And so they tailored everything and I got to first

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 2>day on set. I'm in, I'm having my hair done,

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, oh gosh, we are going off the

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 2>rails with this hair. And it was the executive producer

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 2>was in there kind of orchestrating the whole thing and

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't want any hair going in your face in any way,

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 2>so everything had to be like chalacked back. And I

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:37.840
<v Speaker 2>remember like feeling like something bad had just happened to me.

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 2>And I went out and I showed and like, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I go into my trailer and I put on

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 2>my wardrobe and nothing fits. It's like they tailored it

0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 2>for somebody else's body. So now I've got like crazy

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 2>hair and clothes that don't really fit. And I go

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 2>to the director and I'm like, and he looked at

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 2>me and he said, what happened? And I said, oh, well,

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:02.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, and so you know, help put the look together.

0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:05.760
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, oh, you look great. I was like, oh,

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 2>and I will get no help for this. So I

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 2>went back to my trailer and it was the first

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:15.719
<v Speaker 2>time ever that I felt like, I'm embarrassed. This is

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.360
<v Speaker 2>not how I saw my character looking. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>I oh my, you know, I have cameltoe. I can't

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:29.400
<v Speaker 2>these these pants don't fit like. And I had a

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 2>wonderful acting teacher and she was like, the script her

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 2>name was Diana Castle, and the script is your treasure map.

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 2>And so it was like, all right, look, yes, all

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 2>of these things are true, but that's not why you're here.

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 2>You're here to tell a story. So what's the story.

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>It was like, I'm a witch who's pretending to be

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 2>a human. Oh, so you're not your authentic self. You're

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 2>pretending to be something that you're not. Would that mean

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 2>that you're close don't quite fit right, and You're hair

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:02.839
<v Speaker 2>is a little off, and you don't really fit this

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 2>thing because you're not being you. You're pretending to be

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:12.280
<v Speaker 2>something else. And once I landed on that, I was like, damn.

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.560
<v Speaker 2>The door of my trailer flew open. And my camel too,

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 2>and you ready to go. This is what humans do,

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 2>this is what I do. And I'm such an ugly shirt.

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I could probably undo that button and let me I'm

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 2>down a little bit, but I'm a cancel sitting and

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 2>so I could. And then as the films progressed and

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Gwen lightened up, you know, it was all sort of

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 2>her coming into her own skin. So she definitely had

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 2>an arc as well. But you know, it's my job

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 2>to make sense of the nonsense sometimes and so.

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>On.

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 2>But I was mean because I loved Well, that's.

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 3>That's what's important. And we thank you so much for

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 3>joining us today. This has been so cool. I don't

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:08.360
<v Speaker 3>think we're going to go past Cameltoe. I think that's.

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Gonna yeah, that's gonna scene scene.

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:14.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a perfect but we have three more of these

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to do, so hopefully we will be able to get

0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you back and you can come on and talk.

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 4>About some of the other one.

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, definitely, Kimberly. I love nothing more than spending time

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 2>with her, and actually just to let people know we're

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be together doing Galaxy Con in December in Columbus, Ohio.

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like December six.

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh cool.

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 1>We're doing a bunch of Galaxy cons next year, so

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 1>hopefully we'll cross paths.

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I hope. So I love those shows. Yeah, there's a

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 2>great show.

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully we'll be able to cross Oh, I hope.

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Kimberly and I met at a convention and have been

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.759
<v Speaker 1>have continued our friendship. After that. We ended up at

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 1>october Fest in Tulsa, Oklahoma together. So you never know

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 1>where you're going to end up or what you're going

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to do these little towns.

0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:59.879
<v Speaker 3>It's great, but thank you for joining us.

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, you guys are amazing. It was a pleasure being here.

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for asking me. And now we're friends.

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Now we're friends.

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>So we will see you at convention and you are

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 1>going to come back and join us.

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:12.760
<v Speaker 4>I can't wait to watch the evolution of what happens

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 4>with the storyline, the characters, everything. This was so fun

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 4>and I loved being able to watch it with my daughter.

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 4>It was so sound. She's four, so.

0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:24.880
<v Speaker 2>The day the beginning.

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.319
<v Speaker 4>Section scared her a little bit, but I was like,

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:28.399
<v Speaker 4>we're good, we're good, We're good, and then she ends

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 4>up loving it.

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh good, good, good.

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Of course your kids have watched, right, you've had to

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:33.640
<v Speaker 4>have that.

0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 2>They have, they have it, and they were actually they

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 2>would come and cut themselves in little places in the

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:44.239
<v Speaker 2>set and watch moment shoot and they had to be

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 2>very very quiet because cool and they were really there

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>just for the craft service. Of course, that's why.

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 4>We're all there.

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.319
<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day. What I'm there for

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 3>is the craft service. The craft service is my treasure map.

0:54:55.600 --> 0:55:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. I've been working in my kids were in

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 2>school and they're like, okay, so this is what I

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.760
<v Speaker 2>want off the table, and like I literally I always

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 2>felt like such a beggar because like at the end

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 2>of the day, I'm swiping stuff off. Yeah, it was like,

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.840
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna want because I never really let him have

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>sodas very much. We want coach and you know, chips,

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 2>some kind of chips. We're gonna need that too. So yeah,

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like filling my bag on them.

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 1>So nice, thank you, and we will please come back

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 1>and join us again.

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I would love to I would love to you guys.

0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 2>What a pleasure. Bye bye.

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>So sweet.

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 3>She's one of those people that just got stories for days.

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>You just want to sit down and listen to all

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.240
<v Speaker 1>the things that she's saying, yeah, I didn't want.

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.399
<v Speaker 4>To talk, so idyone have to explain everything to her.

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:52.959
<v Speaker 4>But it made me feel like her figuring out what

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 4>Ninja Turtles was like, I'm like figuring out between me

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 4>and Will Will I just got this movie and You're like,

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:04.799
<v Speaker 4>what's it called? And I'm like, I don't.

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Know, like blue Beetle something like that. Yeah, it's gonna

0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:11.840
<v Speaker 3>it's called Booster Gold. I'm like, what it's.

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Called green Lantern?

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What is that?

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:18.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'll be doing the same thing. I'll be like,

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:20.319
<v Speaker 3>they're having me rumba Is.

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:22.960
<v Speaker 2>That a thing? Isn't that the thing that cleans the

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 2>floor when you leave? Like? What's going on? I love it?

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:28.560
<v Speaker 4>That was so funny. I was just giggling inside, going

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 4>She's literally explaining a story that could absolute into me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you all for joining us, and thank you

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Judith Hope for joining us.

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:38.439
<v Speaker 2>How cool was that?

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:41.160
<v Speaker 1>And join us next time again as we are going

0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to be watching Smart House, which I seen. I hoping

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it's about a house that's really smart.

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 4>I think that I haven't seen this one, but it

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 4>is one the fans have been dying for it.

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:54.640
<v Speaker 3>So I can't wait.

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm stoked.

0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:58.120
<v Speaker 3>We are checking it out. Join us next time. Thank

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you everybody, and we will see you later. Five payn