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Speaker 2: This he's Cowboys Camping Out, presented by Solo Stove and

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from training Camp in Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 3: Well we've got the fire going, the storylines are about

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Speaker 3: to be flowing. And shout out to Cowboys Nation for tuning.

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Speaker 3: And this is Camping Out presented by Solo Stove. I'm

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Speaker 3: your host, Nicole Hutchinson. We've got Nicky's Bagnola, We've got

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Speaker 3: Tommy Yarrish, Patrick no, Sy Walker, Nick Eatman, and training

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Speaker 3: camp is officially lit.

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Speaker 4: You get it?

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Speaker 5: See what did we're jumping off with with the don't.

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Speaker 6: Anybody else because.

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Speaker 7: You don't want to smoke?

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Speaker 4: That was good right there?

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Speaker 8: All right, so both of them are kicked off. Thank

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Speaker 8: you guys for being there.

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Speaker 3: But no, obviously camp kicked off things today with press

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Speaker 3: conference and opening press conference with Brian Schottenheimer head coach

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Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and a lot of

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Speaker 3: things were discussed, but we have to talk about the

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons contract. I mean, that's the hot topic of

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Speaker 3: camp so far. Everyone making it clear that there is

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Speaker 3: no movement within that contract, and we do know how

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Speaker 3: vital it is for that contract to get done. But

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Speaker 3: when you think about that, how soon do you guys

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Speaker 3: expect it to get done? And I'll start with you, Tommy, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Think this is something that it wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 8: it took a little bit longer, just because it seems

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Speaker 8: like as it stands right now. And I know the

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Speaker 8: Joneses don't really delve too much into where they are

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Speaker 8: in contract extensions and contract talks, but it just seems

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Speaker 8: like things are far apart right now as they stand

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Speaker 8: right That doesn't say that that gap can't close. I

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Speaker 8: think Stephen Jones put it really well when he said, Hey,

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Speaker 8: training camp is a great opportunity for us to get

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Speaker 8: together and talk through these contract things, not just with

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Speaker 8: Michael Parsons, but you think about some of the other

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Speaker 8: guys that have deals coming up to Ron Bland, Tyler Smith,

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Speaker 8: Jake Ferguson. This is a perfect setting for them to

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Speaker 8: do that. And I think the other interesting aspect too,

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Speaker 8: was Steven Jones kind of alluding to, hey, we've had

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Speaker 8: some chats with and Jerry Jones said this too, we

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Speaker 8: had some chats with people who are close to Michat

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Speaker 8: That doesn't necessarily mean they've had chats with his agent,

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Speaker 8: David Mulligeta, but they did add that Adam Profisket, another

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Speaker 8: front office member who handles some of the contract situations,

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Speaker 8: has talk with David Mulligeta, who's Michael Parsons' agent. So

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Speaker 8: it seems like the two sides are still somewhat apart,

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Speaker 8: But that doesn't mean that this can't get done at

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Speaker 8: some point while we're here in Oxnard. Could it stretch further? Absolutely?

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Speaker 8: I think Jerry Jones made it very clear that he

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Speaker 8: is not in any sort of particular rush with this contract,

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Speaker 8: and every contract is different, and in this situation, he's

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Speaker 8: not in a rush to get it done. At the

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Speaker 8: end of the day, though, I think Michael Parsons is

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Speaker 8: going to get his money and he's going to be

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Speaker 8: the highest paid defensive player in the league.

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Speaker 9: Mage I liked what Jerry said on the wall off

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Speaker 9: when he was asked, do you have a sense of

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Speaker 9: urgency to get this done? And he said no, not

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Speaker 9: like that. So to me, they're sitting there waiting because

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Speaker 9: no one knows what Parsons is asking for right. You know,

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Speaker 9: everybody just assumes, Wow, TJ. Watt got this, so that's

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Speaker 9: what Mike Ha's got. Well, what if he's asking for

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Speaker 9: fifty million a year, you're not getting them that, right,

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Speaker 9: So I think, you know, both sides got to kind

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Speaker 5: Patrick, Well, first and foremost, I do agree with Tommy

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Speaker 5: and that I am of the utmost belief that this

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Speaker 5: deal is going to get done. The only question that

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Speaker 5: we're having here is the win. And when you talk

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Speaker 5: about like what Mickey referenced with the walk off with Jerry,

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Speaker 5: when you talk about just the fact that there's no

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Speaker 5: real deadline at the moment. Okay, it's the start of

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Speaker 5: training camp. Michael Arson's has reported. I expect he'll be

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Speaker 5: a hold in. I don't think that he'll take any

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Speaker 7: But he's here, he's present.

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Speaker 5: So that tells me that at the at the earliest,

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Speaker 5: if you're looking for a possible deadline, probably talking about

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Speaker 5: late August, maybe when it starts to impact the possibility

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles. But until we get to that point. I

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Speaker 5: do believe it. It's it's not gonna happen. It's nothing

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Speaker 5: imminent right now, like Tommy said, and I agree, it

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Speaker 5: how these things go. Either or both sides could wake

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Speaker 5: up tomorrow morning and say, you know what, enough is enough,

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Speaker 5: let's get this done. But it just doesn't feel like

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Speaker 5: they're there right now. Like Micky said, I agree that

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Speaker 5: they are far apart right now. What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Numbers wise? Only those two parties know. Nobody's sitting here knows,

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Speaker 5: nobody out there speculating knows. So is it five million

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Speaker 5: dollar difference? Is it a guaranteed money difference of you know,

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Speaker 5: one million, five million, twenty million?

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Speaker 7: We don't know. But they're all far apart right now.

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Speaker 10: Nick, I mean, you guys took all the points. I mean,

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Speaker 10: I agree with with the deadline and the lack of deadline.

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Speaker 10: You know, deadlines make deals, and then they really don't

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Speaker 10: have one right now. One thing we know two things

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Speaker 10: for sure, Mica doesn't want to be fined, and we

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Speaker 10: also know that if the Cowboys don't like what you're

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Speaker 10: doing or not doing, they also will take your money.

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Speaker 10: You know, we know that, so that that's not happening

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Speaker 10: right now. And I think as we get closer and

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Speaker 10: obviously if you miss a game then then you're gonna

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Speaker 10: you're going to be fine. So I think right now

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Speaker 10: is what Patrick said, you guys have all sort of

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Speaker 10: alluded to this. There's still real deadline for it and

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Speaker 10: when there is, so he's not missing anything. And and

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Speaker 10: I hate to say this, but we saw Sam Williams

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Speaker 10: get carted off the field with an injury and it

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Speaker 10: probably is going to happen not gone. Would not that one,

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Speaker 10: but this one or this would be bad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that'd be bad.

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Speaker 10: But but I think they would do it if it

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Speaker 10: was a significant player. But guys get hurt and and

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Speaker 10: so him not practice. Seeing right now, at aux learn

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Speaker 10: it's not the worst thing in the world going on

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Speaker 10: what Zeberflu's defense that you need to learn, Hey, go

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Speaker 10: the rest of the pastor okay, go eat got it,

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Speaker 10: Go eat it.

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Speaker 4: And I like what you brought up there as the

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Speaker 3: That was something that was stressed today as well is

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Speaker 3: and I like what Jane Slater had quote tweeted on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: basically setting the record straight of I think that you know,

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Speaker 3: what Jerry was trying to explain is the fact that

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Speaker 3: happened right and before they signed these big deals. Things happened,

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Speaker 3: like Dak Prescott when he said he missed two thirds

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Speaker 3: that's obviously a big thing for him. But he also

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Speaker 3: said leadership is important as well, and they still want

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Speaker 3: to see a little bit more leadership from Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, for me, I feel like I've seen

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Speaker 3: especially this offseason just being in the building. Like Brian

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Speaker 3: Schottenheimer said, But how much more of that leadership do

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Speaker 3: to I guess, show that final piece or get that final.

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Speaker 9: Do you think three months of leadership means he's ready

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Speaker 9: to be a leader? I don't, I think, because that's

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Speaker 9: making the same if you think about it, if you're

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Speaker 9: in the locker room and watch him interacting, like last

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Speaker 9: year during the season, he's there by himself. He doesn't

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Speaker 9: even talk to any teammates, to me anyway, So yeah,

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Speaker 9: you know, is he leading because Jerry wants to see that.

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Speaker 9: You know, the first if you remember the first workout

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Speaker 9: they had, they had the crawfish boiled, right, they had

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Speaker 9: that big long table out there. All the guys are

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Speaker 9: standing there eating. Was Number eleven out there? No, he

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Speaker 9: wasn't out there. And even if you're not gonna eat

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Speaker 9: crawfish or you don't like it, you should be out

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Speaker 9: there with your your buddies, right because that's what leaders do.

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Speaker 9: So I'm skeptical about the leadership.

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Speaker 4: To be fair, we.

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Speaker 3: Also don't know what's happening behind closed doors as well.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if Michael Parsons maybe spending time with

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Speaker 4: But no, I mean last year, okay, okay.

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Speaker 10: I mean fair, I mean there to me, like what

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Speaker 10: you know, leadership can be defined in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 10: and I think at the end of the day, get

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Speaker 10: years ago had five sacks. It was one of the

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Speaker 10: best years he's had in a while. He was leading

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Speaker 10: with what Number eleven was doing. When Carl Lawston comes

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Speaker 10: off the street gets five sacks. Whatever he's leading based

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Speaker 10: Long doesn't have to admit this, and he won't, but

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Speaker 10: I think he benefitted from from Micah Parsons as well.

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Speaker 10: So so to me, you know, you could be a

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Speaker 10: do all that, let's he cross all that. I'm not

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Speaker 10: saying your point's not right, but you could also be

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Speaker 10: a leader in going and doing your job and the

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Speaker 10: other guys will follow. I mean, yes, it's great to

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Speaker 10: I just kind of think the leadership thing is a

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Speaker 8: Well, and here's the thing too, is first of all,

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Speaker 8: you made a good point that everybody's leadership style is different,

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Speaker 8: and if you guys disagree with this, feel free to

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Speaker 8: contest me on it. But not everybody is a leader.

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Speaker 8: Not everybody is just a natural born leader. And that's

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying Michael Parsons isn't a leader. I'm not

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Speaker 8: saying he's not capable of being a leader. But some

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Speaker 8: guys are just not leaders. In a locker room. You

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Speaker 8: can look at any team in the NFL and you

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Speaker 8: can say that about certain players. They can be star players,

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Speaker 8: they cannot be star players. Some guys it's just not

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Speaker 8: their thing and they do their own thing. And that's

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Speaker 8: where you get leading by example, where they're not maybe

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Speaker 8: necessarily going into practice saying, Okay, I'm gonna go out

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Speaker 8: there and post five sacks in practice today, and this

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Speaker 8: is my leadership. You No, they're just going out there

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Speaker 8: and getting five sacks. Right. There's not necessarily like I

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Speaker 8: need to be a leader for this team. Some guys

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Speaker 8: to build up their habits. I think you can look

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Speaker 8: at plenty of historical examples to look at that. Some

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Speaker 8: guys are just different like that, and they don't necessarily

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Speaker 8: have those leadership traits. It's not a knock on them.

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Speaker 8: That's not saying you can't be a good football player

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Speaker 8: without being a leader. That's just how they're wired.

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Speaker 5: And to that point, I mean look at it as

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Speaker 5: as such. Not everybody was born to be a general,

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Speaker 5: like you're saying, Tommy. Some people are just really good soldiers, okay,

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Speaker 5: And there's no knock to them for being that. And

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Speaker 5: But I started to see something last year's training camp,

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Speaker 7: But I'm also factoring in the growth.

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Speaker 5: I don't expect that Michael Parsons would go from a

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Speaker 5: That's a transition that requires grace. What I need to

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Speaker 7: So I'm going to give him grace in that transition.

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Speaker 3: So, if you're Michael Parsons, and of course we can't

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Speaker 7: So far, Patrick, I'm gonna go beat I personally am.

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Speaker 5: But you know what I love about what Michael Parsons

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Speaker 5: So, in answering your question, if I'm in this position,

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Speaker 7: I want to help set the.

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Speaker 5: And I want to help these young guys who are

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Speaker 10: I'm on the field, I'm stepping I'm on the field

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Speaker 10: That is new defense. Even though I still think he'll

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Speaker 5: And to clarify, that's what I mean when I said

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Speaker 5: doing seven on seven drills, I'm not doing.

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Speaker 7: Full team drills because of the risk associated. But I'm

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Speaker 9: Do you think the majority of people out there understand

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Speaker 5: You really want me to tell you what I think

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Speaker 7: You know the why.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, if you're on they have you in the

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Speaker 9: But why is it? But why isn't he signed by

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Speaker 7: This is a no. I mean for the extension.

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Speaker 9: He could be asking for fifty million.

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Speaker 5: It's a two way street, right and always will be

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Speaker 9: And then he knows that at least, or his agent

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Speaker 9: So now I'm asking for fifty and who knows. They

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Speaker 9: Now did they end up where everybody thought they would?

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Speaker 9: That's right? But did he want more guaranteed? Did he

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Speaker 5: You could say that about helping any teammate, that about helping.

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Speaker 8: And just simply put, they don't have I don't think

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Speaker 8: I mean, you think about Seedey Lamb last year, and

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Speaker 8: Absolutely not. I'm not saying that at all. But you

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Speaker 5: And it does bear mentioning that Michaeh did state that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I want to switch gears because hopefully we

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Speaker 3: But let's switch gears over to Trayvon Diggs. Another big

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Speaker 3: What did y'all make of the entire conversation In regards

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Speaker 10: You, Yeah, I mean, I mean, this is it's funny

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Speaker 10: But seven to eleven is.

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Speaker 6: Connected here, It really is.

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Speaker 10: It really is, because when you think about it, I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think it is, but U.

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Speaker 10: Sorry, right, but no, I just feel like that that

435
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Speaker 10: it's connected and they're they're like, hey, you know, we

436
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Speaker 10: need to make sure there's more to it than just

437
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Speaker 10: being a great player at all pro setting records and

438
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Speaker 10: things like that, that which Trayvon did. There's more to

439
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Speaker 10: it than that, And so I think they feel like,

440
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Speaker 10: you know, make sure the next guys that you know,

441
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Speaker 10: like Micah, make sure that they're doing more than just

442
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Speaker 10: you know, stuff on the field.

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Speaker 5: My stands on it is this, and anyone who's followed

444
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Speaker 5: me for an extended period of time, going back to,

445
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Speaker 5: you know, the draft that Trayvon Diggs came into the

446
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Speaker 5: Cowboys organization with. I'm a huge fan of Trayvon Diggs.

447
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 5: I've been a huge fan of him since he was

448
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Speaker 5: coming out of Alabama.

449
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Speaker 7: Go Dogs. I don't like Obama, but since.

450
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Speaker 5: He's coming out of Alabama, mocked him to the Cowboys.

451
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Speaker 5: Cowboys found a way to get him in the second round.

452
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Speaker 5: Great ecstatic he came in. He hit the ground running.

453
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Speaker 5: He's setting records up up there with ever since, walls

454
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Speaker 5: and whatnot. But that being said, two things can be true.

455
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Speaker 5: It's also true that it's interest listing to me to

456
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Speaker 5: see certain chunks of the fan base today upset at

457
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Speaker 5: the organization for holding a franchise cornerstone player accountable, because

458
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Speaker 5: these are the same chunks of fandom that were parentally

459
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Speaker 5: perennially upset saying that the Cowboys organization was soft. They

460
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Speaker 5: don't hold players accountable. Oh, what would Jimmy Johnson do?

461
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Speaker 5: Respectfully understand, what would Jimmy Johnson do? This is what

462
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Speaker 5: Jimmy Johnson would do. He would hold the star player

463
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Speaker 5: accountable or the player accountable. This is a contractual thing.

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Speaker 5: How good he is, That's right. It would depends how

465
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Speaker 5: good he is.

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Speaker 8: That's true.

467
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Speaker 9: And the fact that there was no no if you're if.

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Speaker 10: You're curving Richards and you fumball, you can get cut

469
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Speaker 10: and you kick the ball in the you say, Leon,

470
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Speaker 10: get it together, man.

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Speaker 6: That's what it is.

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Speaker 7: Very true, very true.

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Speaker 5: But what I what I will say is that I

474
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Speaker 5: can appreciate now we're talking about culture being reset with

475
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Speaker 5: Brian Schottenheimer, and and what I saw Jerry Jones and

476
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Speaker 5: Steve and Jones doing to Trayvon Dicks. I did not

477
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Speaker 5: view it as shots fired. I did not view it

478
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Speaker 5: as shade. They did not say he was not a

479
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Speaker 5: capable player. They did not say he was, you know, underperforming.

480
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Speaker 5: What they did say between this morning and previously whenever

481
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Speaker 5: mentioned in Treyvon Diggs, is they wanted to see him

482
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Speaker 5: attach rehab more aggressively coming off with that torn a

483
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Speaker 5: c L. They wanted to see him honor the contractual

484
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Speaker 5: clause that puts him in the building because they want

485
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Speaker 5: him as a leader.

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Speaker 6: Can I stop you, I don't think.

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Speaker 10: I think they just wanted to You could do a

488
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Speaker 10: period after they just want to see him.

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Speaker 6: I just wanted he might be attacking.

490
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Speaker 5: Now you have it all that, you know, but outside

491
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Speaker 5: of Twitter, they want to see him, outside of the

492
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Speaker 5: social media videos that are supposed to I.

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Speaker 9: Saw him this morning and guess who he was walking

494
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Speaker 9: into the building with Michael Park all day long, right,

495
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Speaker 9: and and and if you think back to last year

496
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Speaker 9: when they did stretch, who were the two guys off

497
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Speaker 9: by themselves stretching seven eleven?

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Speaker 6: Tell you want to win on the Yeah.

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Speaker 9: It's not a big deal. It's not going to have

500
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Speaker 9: anything winning and losing. Right, But if I'm I don't

501
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 9: know one of the other guys over there, and everybody's

502
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Speaker 9: in their position with the team, and then those two

503
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Speaker 9: jokers are over on the side, the hell.

504
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Speaker 6: Tell me something something I don't know if I can

505
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Speaker 6: top that.

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Speaker 8: Well, here's the interesting part, right, it goes back to

507
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Speaker 8: what I said a little bit earlier. And again, this

508
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Speaker 8: isn't a dig at anybody. But this isn't a dig

509
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Speaker 8: in anybody. But is Trayvon Diggs a guy that you

510
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Speaker 8: say is a leader? Are you gonna stab me with it?

511
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Speaker 6: That's more than a dig man. Let's play poker.

512
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Speaker 8: But is Trayvon Diggs really a guy that you look

513
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Speaker 8: at as a leader on this team in terms of

514
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Speaker 8: what we see from Dak Prescott and Tyler Smith and

515
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Speaker 8: those kinds of things. I think even Trayvon Diggs has

516
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 8: told us, Hey, I'm a quiet I'm a shy guy,

517
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Speaker 8: like I don't you know, I've got my circle and

518
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 8: I don't really go outside of that. And that's fine.

519
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 8: And you can bet Trayvon Diggs is a good example.

520
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,239
Speaker 8: You can be a good player without necessarily being a

521
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Speaker 8: great leader, and I think Trayvon Diggs fits that mold. So,

522
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Speaker 8: you know, it's interesting that Jay Jones and Steven Jones mentioned,

523
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 8: you know, leadership is something with Trayvon Diggs, and I

524
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Speaker 8: think really it's just the fact that they were more

525
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 8: frustrated with the fact that he was not in the

526
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Speaker 8: building as much as he was during the rehabilitation process.

527
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Speaker 8: The contract clause was eighty four point pie basically was

528
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Speaker 8: the rest of the number out of it was less than

529
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Speaker 8: eighty five percent. I could tell you, thank you, percent

530
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Speaker 8: of the of the off season in the Cowboys facility.

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Speaker 8: And you know, Steven Jones said it, well, he's like

532
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Speaker 8: he was going into South Florida rehabilitating. He knew what

533
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Speaker 8: he was getting into. He knew that was in the contract.

534
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Speaker 8: This is the decision that Trayvon Diggs made on his own.

535
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Speaker 8: And that's not saying that Trayvon in his mind, he

536
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Speaker 8: made a poor decision. I mean, if he's given the

537
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Speaker 8: treatment and care that he needs in South Florida, then

538
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Speaker 8: you know, if that's what he thinks, that's fine. But

539
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Speaker 8: I also understand from the team's perspective, if he's doing that,

540
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 8: then you're kind of out of the loop on where

541
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Speaker 8: he had, where he's at in his recovery. If you're

542
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Speaker 8: not with the team doctors, if you're not with the

543
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Speaker 8: team rehab group, then everybody's kind of not on the

544
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 8: same page, and that's just not productive for both sides,

545
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Speaker 8: because this is the team that needs their corners as

546
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Speaker 8: early as they can get them with how banged up

547
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Speaker 8: that room is. So I can I can certainly see

548
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Speaker 8: why the ownership is frustrated in terms of what Trayvon

549
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Speaker 8: Diggs is doing, and I can see where he needs

550
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Speaker 8: to improve in that aspect, especially given, like you guys said,

551
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Speaker 8: the amount of money that they gave him in a contract.

552
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Speaker 5: And you also don't want to set the precedent of Okay,

553
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 5: well if you forgive this clause in Trayvon's contract, well

554
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Speaker 5: what happens, you know, down the road when another player

555
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 5: wants you to forgive that and they're just going to

556
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 5: point at will you didn't.

557
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Speaker 8: Because the thing is too You make your point. They

558
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 8: didn't have to take the clause. And Stephen Jones kind

559
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 8: of clarified when I asked him about that. He was like,

560
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Speaker 8: it was part of the contract. Well, and Steven jumped

561
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 8: in I should have followed up and said, well, you

562
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Speaker 8: didn't have to take the clause, and I think he

563
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Speaker 8: kind of answered his own question because he said, Trayvon

564
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Speaker 8: knew what he was doing. He knew what he was doing.

565
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Speaker 8: He knew that was part of the contract. He knew

566
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Speaker 8: that was part of the clause. He made this decision

567
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Speaker 8: by himself.

568
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, everyone's worried about Trayvon losing half a million dollars

569
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Speaker 10: except for Trayvon.

570
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Speaker 6: It seems like, right, well.

571
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Speaker 8: He's only got eight and a half million more he's making.

572
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 6: Well, we're making this big deal out of it.

573
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Speaker 10: And it's like, you know, if if if he's not

574
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Speaker 10: worried about it, then I mean, being where he was

575
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 10: and training where he was was more important than than

576
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Speaker 10: half million dollars.

577
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 6: I think he didn't know then that's on it.

578
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 5: Maybe he just treated it as an invoice to him

579
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 5: training outside. So maybe in his mind, mathematically, I'll just

580
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Speaker 5: pay five hundred thousand dollars to train where I want

581
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Speaker 5: to train.

582
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Speaker 8: Well, he's still got to pay that five hundred thousand dollars.

583
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 8: So anyways, I think the the the interesting part of

584
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Speaker 8: this isn't necessarily him Trayvon Diggs doing what he did.

585
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 8: I think it's the fact that Terry Jones and Stephen

586
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 8: Jones seemed frustrated with it and how the process was handled.

587
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 8: I think that's where the story is right.

588
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 10: So it's just funny we got there's ninety one guys

589
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 10: on the roster. These two aren't going to be practiced.

590
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 10: It's about what three or four more that won't be

591
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 10: as well. But but that's where the focus is. It's

592
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 10: always it's always who. Yeah, seven eleven.

593
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 9: They didn't announce the pop list, Yeah.

594
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 6: They did, they did.

595
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 5: So the pup list consists of Trevon Diggs to Marvey

596
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 5: on Over shown that Josh Butler, Savone reveel he'll go

597
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 5: to the NFL list, the non football injury cast. So

598
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 5: those four guys will start on injury on injury list,

599
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: but obviously any of those four can be brought one

600
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 5: practice field at any point.

601
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Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for the lot right there, because I was

602
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: going to.

603
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Speaker 5: Go into what I felt that felt that I felt

604
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Speaker 5: that what.

605
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Speaker 3: Do y'all make of this cornerback room? Because as of

606
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: right now, you have no Trayvon Diggs. You're hoping that

607
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: Kayln Carson makes a jump this year. Savone rebel of course,

608
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 3: is on the non football injury list as well. Josh

609
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: Butler out. So what do y'all make of this cornerback room?

610
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 6: I'm trying to who's left?

611
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were playing Makuamau a little bit cornerback in

612
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Speaker 3: O t As But we don't exactly it's uh, it.

613
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 6: Is not tell us how you feel, tell us how

614
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 6: you feel.

615
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 8: I think he's this is the guy that he played

616
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 8: safety in college, right, so I think anytime anytime corner safety.

617
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 10: Okay, I apologize. The story is Dan Quinn calls him up.

618
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 10: He played corner opposite of J. C. Horn played corner,

619
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Speaker 10: and and he's on the I think it's on the

620
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 10: call and he goes, he goes, he was coach, you're

621
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 10: about to get the best cornerback in the league. And

622
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 10: he goes, oh, that's that's great, but we're gonna move

623
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 10: you the safety. Okay, So I gotta flip You're about

624
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 10: to get the best safety.

625
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 8: I'm sorry I flipped it up. But no, I think

626
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 8: you know, if he's the guy that they put it

627
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 8: corner and we saw him in the slot a little bit,

628
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 8: that's gonna be the really interesting part from inside the what.

629
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Speaker 9: Mickey, how many times you see us?

630
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Speaker 6: What do you think he is?

631
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Speaker 9: Six four six five, it's about six five trying to

632
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Speaker 9: play in the.

633
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 8: Lord? Can I get my point across? Well, I'm just

634
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 8: saying in the slot in general, not necessarily Mcamio earning

635
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 8: that job. I wouldn't, you know, say that he's going

636
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 8: to play in the slot, but just the slot in general,

637
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 8: because if you keep Doran Bland there, then what are

638
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 8: you going to do on the outside. And if you

639
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 8: keep Doran Bland on the outside, then who you're gonna

640
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 8: put in the slot? That's the question I was posing, right.

641
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 8: I think Israel mclame, obviously because of his size, is

642
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 8: kind of the kind of the prototype for it, kind

643
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 8: of the prototype of what the cowboys like at that

644
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 8: outside cornerback spot, right, those those longer armed guys and

645
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 8: those taller guys who can do more for you down

646
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 8: the field. I just think, you know, if this is

647
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 8: a guy who hasn't seen as many snaps at that

648
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 8: cornerback spot, and you're throwing him kind of into the

649
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 8: fire literally here early on with the lack of it,

650
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 8: you guys started it with the lack of thanks being jeez.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I can follow that up.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I understand, I understand, I understand if that's you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying he's not a guy that can play

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Speaker 8: outside for you. I just think that, you know, if

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Speaker 8: if that's what they're gonna do, and that's what their

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Speaker 8: plan is, and they've got to start now because he's

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Speaker 8: gonna need as much time as he can get in

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Speaker 8: this system to be able to acclimate himself to plan

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Speaker 8: on the outside, which is the spot that he hasn't

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Speaker 8: done very much up to this point in his career

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Speaker 8: just yet.

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Speaker 5: Listen, the bottom line is this cornerback position is in

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Speaker 5: dire streets. Yeah, right now you're starting training camp with

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Speaker 5: who do we say, Trevon Diggs is on pub Josh Butler.

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Speaker 5: He suffered a twenty a CEO in December November, right right,

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Speaker 5: Look at the timing. He might not be back until

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. And then you talk about Savone revel Now,

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Speaker 5: I feel in speaking with Savone and seeing his progress,

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Speaker 5: I feel he will, you know, eventually be on the

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Speaker 5: field for training camp. I don't know if he will

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Speaker 5: be allowed any preseason work depends on how his medicals go.

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Speaker 7: But I do feel like.

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Speaker 5: He's training toward being on the field being available for

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Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Eagles. Put a pin in that. We'll see

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Speaker 5: if that's the case. But who do you have right

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Speaker 5: now that's active? You got Deron Bland and Company.

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Speaker 7: Literally, that's what you got.

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Speaker 6: Carry Carson, I mean, and.

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Speaker 5: Kayln Carson is coming off of an up and down

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Speaker 5: rookie season, more downs than the ups, and has season

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Speaker 5: ending season shoulder surgery. So he's going to have to

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Speaker 5: number one, get back to his form and then figure

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Speaker 5: out how to be an impact cornerback in the league.

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Speaker 7: At the NFL level, two different things.

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Speaker 5: Andrew Booth had up and down a lot of downs.

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Speaker 7: So I mean, and it goes for you.

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Speaker 5: You have unproven guys like Troy Pride for example, So

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Speaker 5: you have some, you have bodies, but as far as proven,

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Speaker 5: because kyri Elam isn't proven, right, he's trying to prove himself. Okay,

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Speaker 5: even coming out of the Buffalo Bills. It's Theron Bland

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Speaker 5: and Israel mccuamo who showed me something spectacular on that

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Speaker 5: one particular weekend in Tampa Bay against Tom Brady of

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Speaker 5: all quarterbacks. So does that translate to him being able

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Speaker 5: to be a full time slot I don't know that

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Speaker 5: it does, which concerns me in that are you going

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Speaker 5: to have a combo packet Nickel to try to place

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Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis? This is what really chapped my hide about

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Speaker 5: those who didn't appreciate what Jordan Lewis brought to this team,

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Speaker 5: not simply from a leadership standpoint.

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Speaker 7: We talk about leadership a lot.

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Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis was the consummate leader, but you're talking about

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Speaker 5: the best nickel corner in the game, and a lot

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Speaker 5: of fans didn't really know what that looked like appreciated it.

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Speaker 5: But now that he's gone, what you got? You have

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Speaker 5: a team that is trying a safety and one yay

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Speaker 5: Thomas at Nickel in some repsit OTA's in mini camp.

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Speaker 5: That tells you how desperate they are to try to

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Speaker 5: figure that out. So right now a lot of things unsettled.

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Speaker 5: I can respect what Shoddy said as far as looking

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Speaker 5: at it from an optimistic point of view, saying, you

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Speaker 5: get opportunities to look at these young guys now, but

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Speaker 5: you're gonna have to have a lot of these young

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Speaker 5: guys stepping up to showing you to show you something otherwise.

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Speaker 7: And where are you, Nick?

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Speaker 8: Did you just get hit by a six shot?

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Speaker 9: I don't know, but I was looking because.

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Speaker 6: Night golf over here, and like I was wondering, what

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Speaker 6: I tell you who that is in t would so

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Speaker 9: There's no Internet goodness.

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Speaker 8: Nick Harris is out here la at night.

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Speaker 6: I just I just heard the like the nine iron

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: You had one job, Tommy.

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Speaker 3: All right, biggest position depth, most concerned about. Let's go Tommy.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I know we talked a lot about corner. But I think,

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Speaker 8: what go ahead. I look at this defensive tackle room,

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Speaker 8: I think this defensive tackle. You know, you look at

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Speaker 8: the room as a whole, and they've got seven bodies

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Speaker 8: in there, and you think about two of them are

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Speaker 8: younger guys and j Solia and Tommy and King Besote,

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Speaker 8: and you know you bring in you.

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Speaker 6: Who would you say before that?

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Speaker 4: Tommy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the way you said it was.

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Speaker 8: King?

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Speaker 7: Okay, Sorry, I got your big brother.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, sir?

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Speaker 6: I said it right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Sorry, man, you're trying to ruin all my segments.

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Speaker 6: It's just the headset.

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Speaker 8: Or the more in frony.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 8: But you know, you think about Olso, Dickizuwa and Mazzie Smith.

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Speaker 8: I think Mazzie Smith obviously is such a big question

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Speaker 8: about all this, right, it feels like the third year

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Speaker 8: in a row where we're asking, okay, can you take

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Speaker 8: that step and be what you know he was supposed

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Speaker 8: to be when they picked him in the first round

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Speaker 8: coming out of Michigan. And if that answer is still

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Speaker 8: a no, then you look at this depth chart. Solomon

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Speaker 8: Thomas is a guy who's functioned as a rotational piece

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Speaker 8: and he's familiar with what Aaron white Cotton wants. Excuse

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Speaker 8: me for his defensive tackles, but other than that, you've

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Speaker 8: got two you know, first round or you got two

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Speaker 8: seventh round rookies. I apologize in doeah and a King

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Speaker 8: mesote that you know you're gonna be asking a lot

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Speaker 8: of Then you've got Denzel Dackson in that room. You've

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Speaker 8: got Ernest Brown in that room. They went to the

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Speaker 8: free agent market again to look for another defensive tackle.

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Speaker 8: Maybe they try out some more at some point along

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Speaker 8: the way in camp and uh some more. Yeah, there

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Speaker 8: you go. But you know, if you're looking at a

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Speaker 8: group that's going to rotate, you one don't have a

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Speaker 8: lot of bodies there. Now, you can't really carry any

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Speaker 8: that you can't carry that many in the first place,

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Speaker 8: but you don't have a lot of bodies that have

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Speaker 8: gotten you a lot of snaps right outside of those

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Speaker 8: top three and Solomon Thomas, OsO, Digi Zua and Mazzi

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Speaker 8: smith Is you know, you're you're leaning on a lot

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Speaker 8: of guys that don't have as much experience, and so

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Speaker 8: in a position that's important, is that in a defense

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Speaker 8: that focuses so much on stopping the run, like Matt

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Speaker 8: Eberfluss's has that I think you know you're gonna be

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Speaker 8: asking a lot of your linebacker level, which is missing

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Speaker 8: de Marvia and over shown they don't have Eric Kendricks,

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Speaker 8: who was their leading tackler a year ago back, and

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Speaker 8: you're just asking a lot from that front seven. If

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Speaker 8: one of your prime focus is going to be stopping

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Speaker 8: the run, what about Winfree's That's that's the free agent

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Speaker 8: that I was talking about, Harry and Winfrey, thank you,

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Speaker 8: I blank the name.

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Speaker 9: That's another body.

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Speaker 16: Look, but it goes to the point that they got

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Speaker 16: those top three have the experience, and below that, you're

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Speaker 16: you've got some guys who don't have as many snaps.

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Speaker 6: Somebody will get released that they'll pick up.

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Speaker 7: That that that does happen. But for me, I mean,

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Speaker 7: I really I could what.

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Speaker 4: Your answer biggest position depth?

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Speaker 9: No, I thought we talked about it. Cornerback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say I could circle the running back.

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Speaker 5: But at least I'm looking at the running backs room

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Speaker 5: and it's just me trying to figure out who's going

870
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Speaker 5: to be the front runner, who's going to be the

871
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Speaker 5: lead back. I think Javonte Williams interest training camp a

872
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 5: little bit of the lead horse. I tried to see

873
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Speaker 5: if Brian Schottenheimer would kind of jump on that, but

874
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Speaker 5: he basically just said it's between him Miles Sanders, but

875
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 5: the other guy is going to get a fair shot

876
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Speaker 5: as well. And MafA and Blue and Deuce and Hunter

877
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Speaker 5: Libpkey and Hunter lib Key. But at least there are

878
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Speaker 5: bodies there that I feel like they can work with something.

879
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 5: I am so concerned about this cornerback position, and not

880
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Speaker 5: because of lack of bodies, but because of lack of

881
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Speaker 5: proven bodies alongside Dron Camp and Dron Bland. And if

882
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Speaker 5: you're entering camp and like I said, still trying to

883
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Speaker 5: figure out if you're going to have to do a

884
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Speaker 5: combo pack at nickel at slot corner.

885
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Speaker 7: Whatever the case may be.

886
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Speaker 5: It's just very, very concerning because while Tommy makes an

887
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Speaker 5: excellent point, I could see why anyone would would list

888
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Speaker 5: defensive tackle as a concern. I could see that I

889
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Speaker 5: at least feel a little bit better with the addition

890
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Speaker 5: of Solomon Thomas. We are waiting to see Missie Smith breakout,

891
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 5: but at least he has NFL starts under his belt.

892
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Speaker 5: When you look at that cornerback position, just rewind back

893
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Speaker 5: to the end of the first segment and you will

894
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Speaker 5: see my take on it. Outside of d ran Bland,

895
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Speaker 5: Izzy is on a one year deal. Don't know exactly

896
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Speaker 5: how they're going to play him yet one year Thomas

897
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Speaker 5: he might experiment with with flexing between safety and nickel corner.

898
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 5: Kaitlyn Carson coming off of that season and the shoulder

899
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Speaker 5: injury and also needs to learn how to be an

900
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Speaker 5: impact cornerback at the NFL level. The list goes on

901
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Speaker 5: and on. Whin will Trayvon Diggs come back when he

902
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Speaker 5: comes back? How much grace will he require in order

903
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Speaker 5: to get back to all pro form, because that's not

904
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Speaker 5: a given coming off of a torn acl But you know,

905
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Speaker 5: I just my my head keeps going back to cornerback.

906
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just we can move to another topic because corner,

907
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 10: I mean it's corner or defensive tackle, you know, and

908
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 10: and I agree with.

909
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Speaker 8: Both, concerned about real quick, real quick. Going back to

910
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 8: Patrick's point just to say, you're talking looking for a

911
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 8: lead back, I don't think they have one. I think

912
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 8: it's gonna be aboy committee again.

913
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Speaker 5: Don't do that, Fou follows. I was just about to

914
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Speaker 5: try to enjoy my more. Well, you can still enjoy

915
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: your no, because that always doesn't change. It always ends tragically.

916
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 5: But I don't want to see a running back by committee'

917
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 5: approach again with the Cowboys. I want to see a

918
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Speaker 5: definitive lead back. Does that mean I want a bail Cow?

919
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 5: I don't see that they have a bel cow. I

920
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 5: do feel like multiple backs will contribute in multiple ways,

921
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: but I at least need to know going into any

922
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 5: particular week that's the guy, that's the guy, that's the guy,

923
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Speaker 5: and the other guy can be like a one B

924
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: and then you you'll work it out from there. Running

925
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 5: Backs by Committee it really detonated in their face last year.

926
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 9: Well that's him, didn't because they didn't get to the

927
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 9: guy that should have been the starter in the first place.

928
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 9: Fair ran for a thousand yards, right, Yeah, he ran

929
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 9: for as many yards as Tony Pollard did.

930
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Speaker 5: Do you know why they didn't get to him because

931
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 5: they were so busy trying to shoehorn the running back

932
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Speaker 5: by committee.

933
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 7: Right, they were so busy trying to make that work.

934
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Speaker 9: They should have figured out that the committee was that guy.

935
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Speaker 9: Should have agreed, gave him the ball. Agree he gained

936
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Speaker 9: the majority of his yards in like the last seven

937
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Speaker 9: or eight games.

938
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Speaker 10: I agree, but with all much that they said, thanks, yeah,

939
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Speaker 10: thanks for Rico.

940
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Speaker 9: Well somebody else paid them.

941
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 10: Well I know that, but I mean it was one

942
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 10: of those things. But we've seen that around here. I

943
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 10: mean we've seen guys have good, great seasons to Marko

944
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Speaker 10: Murray at eighteen hundred yards, one offensive player of the year,

945
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 10: and they let him go. You know, so I don't

946
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Speaker 10: think I don't think they looked at it and said,

947
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 10: you know what, Rico is pretty good. I think they

948
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 10: looked at it and said, crap, if Rico can do this,

949
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Speaker 10: we can get anyone in here.

950
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Speaker 6: I think that's what the well, if he was.

951
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Speaker 8: And to clarify, I'm not saying a buy committee approach

952
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 8: is good of I'm just saying that that is that

953
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 8: I don't know if they have any other option. I

954
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 8: don't look at this running back room and say, well, yeah,

955
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 8: we don't know that yet, right. I think Brian Schotenhauer

956
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 8: put it really well to you when you asked him.

957
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 8: We haven't really seen much of these guys yet because

958
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 8: they don't have pads on. You can't really evaluate running

959
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 8: backs at OTAs or without pads on. So but even

960
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 8: just still, you've got a guy who's coming back from

961
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 8: a major injury in Javonte Williams. He says he's feeling

962
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 8: healthy now, but the human body sometimes speaks differently. Yes,

963
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 8: that's a good point, right. Miles Sanders, who got a

964
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Speaker 8: Pro Bowl season in Philadelphia and then has had you know,

965
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Speaker 8: two years that he'd like to probably have back in

966
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Speaker 8: Carolina where he hasn't played as well. And then you've

967
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Speaker 8: got Deuce Vaughan, who you know is still kind of

968
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 8: looking to take that step, Jaden Blue who wasn't a

969
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Speaker 8: bell coll at Texas, Phil Maffa who was a bell

970
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 8: cow at Clemson. But it doesn't have the speed that

971
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Speaker 8: you want from an NFL running back nowadays. So and

972
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Speaker 8: I look at this room and I just say, I

973
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Speaker 8: don't know if you've got that.

974
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Speaker 5: And to that point, it makes me wonder because keep

975
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Speaker 5: in mind, the NFL trade deadline is not for a

976
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 5: couple more months. So I do think that this is

977
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 5: a Cowboys team. Looking at some of the moves they've

978
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 5: made this offseason, they've been mostly aggressive, right, talked about

979
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 5: the selective selectively aggressive.

980
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 7: But I like what they've selected. I like what they've selected.

981
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 9: They've only paid one running back, So if you're gonna

982
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 9: follow the money, it's Davonte Williams. He got paid three

983
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 9: million dollars right, two million guaranteed. Miles Sanders is on

984
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 9: a veteran exception one year deal. Uh Blues a fifth

985
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Speaker 9: round draft choice. I don't even know if he's making

986
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 9: a million in a base salary as a rookie. Who

987
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 9: else MafA MafA Blue? And yeah, I'm saying if Blue

988
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 9: hangs on to the football, he's going to add something

989
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 9: to this team.

990
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I do agree that that takes us just came

991
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Speaker 5: out of you just did not well.

992
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm just saying, yes, I mean, watch turn

993
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Speaker 8: on the Ohio Steak games, turn on the House Steak

994
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 8: game of the college football players. You'll see what Jayden

995
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Speaker 8: Duke can do for you can do for both of

996
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 8: the touchdowns.

997
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Speaker 6: What about the end of the game, should we turn

998
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Speaker 6: that on?

999
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Speaker 8: No, don't turn that part. Turn it off before that,

1000
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1001
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Speaker 6: Of half time.

1002
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Speaker 8: Turn it off.

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Speaker 6: I'll answer, why receiver, we're.

1004
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1006
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Speaker 10: That's right, I mean, that's that's how It's one of

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1084
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 10: and talk to Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy We're doing a documentary

1085
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 10: and we interviewed him. I'm not on Jimmy Johnson, but

1086
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 10: he was a part of it and he said, this

1087
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 10: team is this team is really really important for them

1088
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 10: to stay healthy. And that's every team, but more with

1089
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 10: this team this year because of how top heavy they

1090
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 10: are with their salary, and that this from one to

1091
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 10: fifty three, they won't be as talented, so they have

1092
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 10: to make sure that those key players stay healthy.

1093
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 7: Perfect point.

1094
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 9: Now we forget that last year, it gets overlooked, It

1095
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 9: gets overlooked nationally, how many top players they were.

1096
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 7: They got ravaged by the unreasonably.

1097
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 9: Look at the teams that went to the playoffs. They

1098
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 9: all had their quarterbacks. The most starts any of those

1099
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 9: teams went to the court to playoffs were two starts,

1100
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 9: and one of them for each team. The guy they

1101
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 9: sat them the last game of the season.

1102
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 10: I'm with you except for one thing. The Saints game.

1103
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 10: Saints game, I mean, how do you explain that one?

1104
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 10: That's my points?

1105
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 6: They give up one hundred and fifty.

1106
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 10: I don't, I don't know, but I mean, I mean

1107
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 10: not great, but.

1108
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1109
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 10: Forty forty four nineteen, I mean they didn't score like

1110
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 10: but like, but that game, right there.

1111
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 6: Was was one that I always think about.

1112
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 8: You're right.

1113
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 10: A lot of injuries and they had a chance to

1114
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 10: do something later if they wouldn't have been so.

1115
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 6: You know, injured.

1116
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 10: But it's hard to overlook that Saints game, and they

1117
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 10: weren't very good as it turns out, So they were

1118
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 10: very ready. But I'm saying, I'm saying, but the Saints were. Yeah,

1119
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 10: they weren't ready in any game. They didn't score in

1120
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 10: the first quarter, they didn't score in the third quarter,

1121
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 10: they didn't come out of the locker room and do anything.

1122
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 10: That team wasn't very prepared. That's one thing that hopefully

1123
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 10: this is where you get prepared. Sorry, it's two answers there.

1124
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 5: I need to see the offensive line show me signs

1125
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 5: of potential domination in twenty twenty five. This is an

1126
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 5: offensive line that is post Zach Martin, post Tyron Smith.

1127
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 5: You need Tyler Guitton to take a huge step in

1128
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 5: year two. Tyler Booker, he's a rookie, he's coming, he's

1129
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 5: stepping into some massive shoes and trying to replace Zach Martin.

1130
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 5: You need Terren Steele to get back to prime Terrence

1131
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 5: Steele for him, he has a lot of time removed

1132
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 5: now from that from the injury. He looks good, he's

1133
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 5: moving moving well. Let's see if that holds out, you

1134
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 5: know what you're gonna get from Tyler Smith, and I

1135
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 5: have full confidence that Cooper beb is only going to

1136
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 5: get better over a very impressive rookie season. But as

1137
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 5: a unit, you need to see them jail. It's a

1138
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: lot of new pieces. You need to see them jail.

1139
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 5: You need to see them, see them moving cause he cohesively.

1140
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 5: And I need to see Dak Prescott standing cleanly in

1141
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 5: that pocket more often than I see him trying to

1142
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 5: escape to buy time because he's coming off of a

1143
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 5: torn hamstring, because he was trying to buy time to

1144
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 5: save the day against the Atlanta Falcons in that particular game.

1145
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 5: If you want Dak Prescott healthy, and I know everybody does,

1146
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 5: and Jerry Jones wants it more than any one other

1147
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: than Dak Prescott, that's gonna be the press well basically, yeah,

1148
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 5: that's gonna be the preface to you winning ten games,

1149
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 5: maybe eleven, maybe twelve games. But the way that begins

1150
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 5: is with the offensive line. It's new look, it's rebuilt.

1151
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 5: They have to dominate. That's also going to help you

1152
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 5: figure out who your running back is or if you

1153
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 5: can skate by with a bi committee approach.

1154
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm gonna go one level back from Patrick and

1155
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 8: say it's Dak Prescott. I think this is the most

1156
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 8: important season of Dak Prescott's career, so keep him clean.

1157
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 8: And I think, well, that's obviously, that is obviously emphasis

1158
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 8: point number one. And if they address that in every

1159
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 8: way they could this offseason. You know, you look at

1160
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 8: the depth pieces they added in free agency. They obviously

1161
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 8: go and pick Tyler Booker in the first round when

1162
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 8: you know, collectively, everybody kind of thought, Okay, if it's

1163
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 8: not tenor Roll McMillan, maybe they go with Matthew Golden

1164
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 8: from Texas, and they picked Tyler Booker, and it kind

1165
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 8: of not blindsided everybody, but it was just kind of like, Okay,

1166
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 8: all the talk was offensive weapon, offensive weapon, offensive weapon,

1167
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 8: and then they load up on the offensive line, which

1168
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 8: isn't the worst thing in the world. And Tyler Booker,

1169
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 8: I think is going to be a great piece for them.

1170
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 8: But I think this season is all as much important

1171
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 8: for Dak Prescott as it is for his offensive line. Yes,

1172
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 8: protecting him is one priority, but Dak's got to do

1173
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 8: his part too. Because you mentioned the Saints game in

1174
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 8: just the early parts of the season last year. You

1175
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 8: look at twenty twenty three Dak Prescott and he was

1176
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 8: not twenty twenty three Dak Prescott. At the start of

1177
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four, right like, there was a very noticeable Okay,

1178
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 8: he was out of rhythm, and part of that could

1179
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 8: be because Ceedee Lamb wasn't at training tribute receiver, and

1180
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 8: that's part of it. You had Jalen Tolbert and Jonathan

1181
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 8: Mingo got added in the middle of the year. I'm

1182
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 8: just answering your question. Making just answering your question. Was

1183
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 8: a veteran there, Brandon Cooks was there? He was and

1184
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 8: he got hurt in l three, three or four games.

1185
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 9: But you may help me make my boy back to

1186
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 9: not out there playing singles.

1187
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 8: I understand that he's not playing singles, But would you

1188
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 8: say that Dak Prescott needs to play better compared to

1189
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 8: what we saw at the start of three, Well, that

1190
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 8: would be very easy. But even just I'm just saying

1191
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 8: in general from I'm not saying he can't do that.

1192
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 8: I'm just saying at the start of twenty twenty, the

1193
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 8: start of twenty four, the first three games of the year,

1194
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 8: when you had see lam when you had Bretta Cooks

1195
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 8: had your top two guys, he had Jalen Tolbert. Do

1196
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 8: you feel like Dak Prescott was playing at the level

1197
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 8: that he was in twenty twenty three? We're at or

1198
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 8: close to that level.

1199
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 9: He didn't score forty points against the Saints.

1200
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 8: You're right, sound like, well, I'm not saying he used

1201
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 8: to score forty points against the Saints, but he wasn't himself.

1202
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 9: But he didn't score forty points. They lost the game

1203
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 9: because they gave up forty points.

1204
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 8: Right, But I don't think he was himself at the

1205
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 8: start of the year compared to twenty twenty three.

1206
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 6: Would you agree with that?

1207
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 8: But he did. He had Cedney Lamb, and I'm not

1208
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 8: saying Cedey Lamb was ready to.

1209
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 9: Go read Ceedee Lamb, Tod and Brandon Cooks got hurt

1210
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 9: in training camp.

1211
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 6: This goes back. I know he makes it.

1212
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 8: He makes a good point, but at the end of

1213
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 8: the day, I think I think, you know, you want

1214
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 8: to see your quarterback play better. Does that mean that

1215
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 8: can't happen?

1216
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 9: So the second in the MVP voting one year before

1217
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 9: that just fell off the cliff.

1218
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 8: I'm not saying he fell off a cliff, but he

1219
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 8: his hamstring fell off his bone, but I'm not I don't.

1220
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 7: Because they didn't keep him clean.

1221
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 8: But he wasn't playing.

1222
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 6: Saw the cart and we saw the cart too much.

1223
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, playing to I don't think he was playing at

1224
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 8: the level that he was in twenty twenty three. I'm

1225
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 8: not saying nothing caused that. I'm just saying that he

1226
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 8: wasn't there.

1227
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 6: We're not arguing even argue, you're arguing arguing both. We're

1228
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 6: making the same point. You agree.

1229
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 8: This is why I love Mickey.

1230
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 6: But the most agreement of all the time.

1231
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 8: I'm just saying, if you want to get back to

1232
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 8: that level, that's where you go out and you do

1233
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 8: what you did. But I still think there is a

1234
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 8: level of Okay, what is Dak Prescott done off of injury?

1235
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 8: He needs to stay healthy and he needs to play

1236
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 8: to the way that he wasn't twenty twenty three. I'm

1237
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 8: not saying he can't do that. I'm just saying he

1238
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 8: hasn't yet because we haven't played any games yet. We

1239
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 8: haven't seen him on the field yet barely. So that's

1240
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 8: what he needs to do for this season. That's the

1241
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 8: most important part for the Cowboys.

1242
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 9: But that's that's that's a national narrative out there. Well,

1243
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 9: one list of quarterbacks, he was right seventeenth.

1244
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 8: I don't think he's That's what.

1245
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 9: The narrative is out there, that he's done, that he

1246
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 9: doesn't have anything left.

1247
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 8: I'm not saying he's done or that he doesn't have

1248
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 8: anything left.

1249
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 9: But you're saying he's got to go back and play better.

1250
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, only yeah, I don't think that. I don't

1251
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 6: think he played well.

1252
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 5: Also because he did, he did play like the twenty

1253
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 5: twenty three right, Well.

1254
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 10: I mean he does have to play better. I mean

1255
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 10: somehow that somehow, to me, he's got to figure out

1256
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 10: how to play to be a football player again, not

1257
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 10: just a quarterback, but a football player, the guy that runs, diving,

1258
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 10: doing everything he can, and unfortunately that's how he got

1259
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 10: hurt last year. So I don't know if he's going

1260
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 10: to go back to that type of guy. But to me,

1261
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 10: Dak Prescott wasn't when his rookie year he was. He

1262
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 10: was a football player that played quarterback. That's the person

1263
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 10: that they need to get him back doing that again.

1264
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 5: If you want Dak Prescott to go back to the

1265
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 5: MVP caliber. Dak Prescott two things need to occur well three,

1266
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 5: and you saw if one by bringing in George Pickens,

1267
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,479
Speaker 5: so you have you have the dynamic duo again. Now

1268
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 5: the second thing is you need to establish the running

1269
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 5: game because he excels off of play action number three,

1270
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 5: you need to protect him so that you can establish

1271
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 5: the running game so that he can excel off a

1272
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 5: play action. You get these things together, you will get

1273
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 5: MVP caliber Dak Prescott by default. It's my opinion on

1274
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 5: the matter.

1275
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 4: Pretty much, all y'all said the same thing.

1276
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 7: Micky agrees with all of us, but rightfully.

1277
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 5: So what I understand Mickey's angst because Mickey's angst is

1278
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 5: my angst, and that because of who Dak Prescott plays for.

1279
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 7: He's not simply.

1280
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 5: Over criticized, but there are falsehoods thrown upon him that

1281
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 5: wouldn't exist if he played for Carolina or if he

1282
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 5: played for Jacksonville. I mean, there are quarterbacks who are

1283
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 5: not good enough to carry Dak Prescott's luggage, but they

1284
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 5: play in B level markets and C level markets, so

1285
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 5: they don't generate the ratings. That's the once you put

1286
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 5: the star on, that's exactly what it is. So I

1287
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 5: understand where Mickeys where Vicky's coming from because that's true,

1288
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 5: and it's true, it was true, of Tony's going to

1289
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 5: be true, of Debt, Prescott's successor down the road.

1290
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 7: It's it's just how it's how it goes.

1291
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 3: We've got a little under a minute to go before

1292
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: it's all said. And John, who's all his dark horse

1293
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 3: in training.

1294
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 8: Camp like a great camp or great camp horse breakout candidate,

1295
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 8: bake up, thank you, I got you.

1296
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 6: Dall horse breakout goes first.

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Speaker 8: Give me Peyton Turner, the edge rusher. I think this

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Speaker 8: is a guy that you know, you look at his building,

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Speaker 8: you look at some of his take back at Houston. Uh,

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Speaker 8: maybe a little bit of untapped potential there. And defensive

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Speaker 8: end is a room that is very deep, even without microparties.

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Speaker 8: I think they're very deep in terms of what they've

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Speaker 8: got there right now. So this is not something where

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Speaker 8: Peyton Turner necessarily needs to feel pressure to step up

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Speaker 8: and take starting level snaps like he did in New

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Speaker 8: Orleans when they picked him in the first round. This

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Speaker 8: is a place where he can get better and once

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Speaker 8: he gets better and he gets comfortable in this defense,

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Speaker 8: get after the passer and use some of his skill

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Speaker 8: set from college.

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Speaker 7: Give me Marshawn Kneeling.

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Speaker 5: I'm not hearing a lot of people giving him the

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Speaker 5: dude praise as far as what he was able to

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Speaker 5: do in his first year playing behind the Marcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 5: But now with Tank out of the picture, Marshawn is

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Speaker 5: going to get a ton of reps. I feel like

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Speaker 5: he's going to have a camp that's so strong that's

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Speaker 5: going to push his name in the conversation of because

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Speaker 5: a lot of people are saying, well, what will Sam

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Speaker 5: Williams be when he comes back? We need Sam Williams

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Speaker 5: to do this. Dante Fowler's black back. Yeah, absolutely, he

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Speaker 5: is black, by the way. But but yeah, by the way.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for clarifying that.

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Speaker 5: No, I actually said, I heard myself say if you

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Speaker 5: heard me, if you heard me say it, then you

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Speaker 5: know there it is. But there are names like Dante Fowler,

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Speaker 5: obviously Michael Parsons, and obviously Sam Williams. But when it

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Speaker 5: comes to the opposite side with Tank out of the picture,

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Speaker 5: not enough people are mentioning Marshawn Kneeling, And I feel like,

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Speaker 5: as a former second round pick who has a tremendous upside,

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Speaker 5: I think he can have a breakout camp for.

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Speaker 6: The boys, I'll go with Brevin span span Ford.

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Speaker 10: I just think that that he's he's you know, he's

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Speaker 10: gonna have an opportunity to to play a lot. I

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Speaker 10: think that the nastiness of of him, that's the guy

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Speaker 10: that they really they need, that edge type of mentality.

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Speaker 10: I think he brings that lound Well says, when I

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Speaker 10: need to start some stuff, I'm sending him in there.

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Speaker 10: I don't think he's gonna to unsee Jake Ferguson, but

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Speaker 10: I think that we'll be talking at some point at

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Speaker 10: camp that how do we get this guy in the

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Speaker 10: game a little bit more. That's nothing against schoon Maker.

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Speaker 10: I think he made good strides and I think Ferguson

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Speaker 10: will too. But I think Brevin span Ford is gonna

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Speaker 10: find a role in this on this offense.

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Speaker 9: Ah, how about Jonathan Mingo.

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Speaker 20: Okay, didn't you just like, oh okay, you just yelled

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Speaker 20: at me for five minutes because I brought his name

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Speaker 20: up five minutes ago.

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Speaker 6: We were talking about the receivers last year.

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Speaker 9: Okay, I got here halfway through He's like, alright, it's.

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Speaker 4: All right, Mackey.

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Speaker 9: Halfway through the season. He didn't even know the offense.

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Speaker 10: So now to steal your life because you said, Dak,

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Speaker 10: you like all of a sudden stopped playing.

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Speaker 6: So now Mingo's figured it all out.

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Speaker 9: You asked for a dark horse, he didn't say for

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Speaker 9: somebody that was going to just jump.

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Speaker 10: That's right, I hope. I mean, can he get a

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Speaker 10: pass thrown in his direction? Helmet like he went from Carolina.

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Speaker 6: To hear it?

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Speaker 10: Whedon Weedon, Wow, I'm sorry I was that Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 10: How many redheaded quarterbacks backups have we had here? Garrett

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Speaker 10: and Dalton and Cooper Rush?

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Speaker 6: We all run together, Brenn and Wheaton as Cooper Rush

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Speaker 6: couldn't throw a pass on that note.

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Speaker 4: We've got to go all right, tell me.

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Speaker 8: I got.

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Speaker 6: You can't just ask the question.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we used to have somebody on this squad that.

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Speaker 4: Used to do I'm gonna go with this is hard, Dak.

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Speaker 8: If I said, if I said, Dak, I think Mickey.

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Speaker 6: Tell me would I said, what seventeenth in the.

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Speaker 9: League behind Bryce Young?

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Speaker 7: Well, I got one for you. You want to say,

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Speaker 7: come on, I'm gonna go to I knew that's who

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Speaker 7: I had for you.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to man.

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Speaker 3: He's felt a little bit more confident with this new

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Speaker 3: scheme and with Matt Eberflutes. I've got a chance to

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Speaker 3: talk to him and he says he feels like he's

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Speaker 3: gonna get that fresh start that he needs, obviously not

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Speaker 3: getting the opportunities under my zimmers defense last year.

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Speaker 4: So I'm looking for the moon Clark to kind of get.

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Speaker 6: A little Baron.

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Speaker 8: Knew you were going there, you were.

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Speaker 7: Going all right, right.

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Speaker 3: This has been great, great show guys for Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 3: Tommy Yurrish, Nick Eatman, Patch, Nocy Walker, Nicole Hudgson.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you all next time.

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