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Speaker 1: We got the crew back together today we start talking

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Speaker 1: about Cowboys versus Panthers.

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Speaker 5: We'll get into that Panthers offense.

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Speaker 1: A lot of interesting things storylines to follow there, as

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Speaker 1: far as some of the players that you will see

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Facing your Dallas Cowboys, we'll talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about the Dallas defense. We'll hopefully get a few

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Speaker 5: The third segment.

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Speaker 1: If you have more, please send them and we'll see

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Speaker 1: how many we can get to. At some point during

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Speaker 1: the show. Let's start first with a couple injuries I

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Speaker 1: want to I want to talk about first, give me

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Speaker 1: For demarveon Overshown, we already know that he's going to

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Speaker 1: of what that looks like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, torn ACL, torn MCL, torn PCL's. You have five

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Speaker 2: major ligaments in your knee and he tore three of them.

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Speaker 5: Bright side real quick. The bright side is like Jalen

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Speaker 5: Smiths about to get the nerve.

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Speaker 2: And then once that surgery happens, you're looking at about

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Speaker 4: But there's a lot of steps to get there. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: It's my first time talking about the h the injury

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just unfortunate.

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Speaker 7: It's it's just so unfortunate that early in his career

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Speaker 7: Uh, But you know with Britt and with his uh,

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Speaker 2: So that's that's that's good to hear. That's really good

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Speaker 7: I think this injury happened in Navara Bowman for the

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, early on? Was this something happened?

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Speaker 5: And was that the one he hit that happened in

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, So I'm looking at it right here.

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Speaker 2: He had he had torn his uh A CL, MCL,

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Speaker 5: Him and then missed the entire next year.

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Speaker 2: He missed the entirety of twenty fourteen, and then in

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Speaker 5: So yeah, we go, yeah, we go.

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Speaker 3: That's that. Yeah, I remember this being the injury. I

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Speaker 7: The I hope this is the last thing he ever

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Speaker 7: You know, I listened to going back and listening to

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Speaker 8: Well, it's very unfortunate for a guy like him, who's

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Speaker 7: Right, Nick, we feel better right now if Zach Martin

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the Carolina Panthers. They are coached by

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Speaker 1: Right now point four, I'm just saying they've they've only

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Speaker 1: Points against twenty nine point eight is what they're giving

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Speaker 4: This team their offensive line.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's not a ton of names that you

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Speaker 7: They go empty formation, split him out there, run routes

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Speaker 7: with him. You know, Cincinnati kind of gave you a

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Speaker 7: little bit of a blueprint of like, hey, maybe throw

442
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Speaker 7: the back here and you can have some success.

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Speaker 1: Well, but is would you say that part of the

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Speaker 1: reason why maybe they had so much success Cincinnati with

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Speaker 1: the running back is because they're dealing with on the

446
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Speaker 1: back end these wide receivers that are crazy good that

447
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Speaker 1: can kill you. Oh no, and you don't deal with

448
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Speaker 1: that level of wide receiver this week.

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Speaker 3: Listen, You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: I just know throwing to a back is throwing to

451
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Speaker 7: a back to me, you know, I mean, if guys

452
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Speaker 7: can get open and separate and catch the ball, and yeah,

453
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Speaker 7: you're right, Cincinnati's got some crazy guys. I'll say this, though,

454
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Speaker 7: I don't know what you think about Adam. It's it's

455
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Speaker 7: wild to watch. And Adam Thielen is a veteran guy.

456
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Speaker 7: But they play in these condensed formations. They play bunch formations.

457
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Speaker 7: They'll like do crazy things like with him, like they'll

458
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Speaker 7: like bunch and they'll delay like he's gonna like he's

459
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Speaker 7: waiting on the line, waiting the line, and things start

460
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Speaker 7: to develop, and then you lose him and then he's

461
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Speaker 7: running wide open across the field and then they throw

462
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Speaker 7: him the ball and you're like going, damn, you know,

463
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Speaker 7: we got to cover this guy. But they they've they've

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Speaker 7: got some guys with Like I say, there's this Tompkins

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Speaker 7: kid that they have number thirteen. Now they've thrown him

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Speaker 7: four balls. He's four for four on catches in run.

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Speaker 7: But he's like the pop pass guy. He's like the

468
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Speaker 7: turpin dude, you know, like he comes in motion, he goes,

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Speaker 7: he goes out, he comes back in They book pop

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Speaker 7: pass it to him.

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Speaker 3: He got Kansas City a couple of times on that

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Speaker 3: and you're wondering, like.

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Speaker 7: Okay, if misdirection pop pass misdirection, wide wide receiver delay.

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Speaker 7: Their offense seems to be a little bit more comfortable

475
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Speaker 7: now kind of doing and I don't call it tricks,

476
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Speaker 7: but it's ways to kind of to make the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: He's thrown for like two hundred and fifty yards in

478
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Speaker 7: these last three games, you know, throwing the ball down

479
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Speaker 7: the field. He's been more accurate. There's the yards per attempt,

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Speaker 7: He's handled pressure better. There's a lot of things the

481
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Speaker 7: last several weeks about Bryce Young in this offense that

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Speaker 7: I think Carolina has to be.

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Speaker 3: They like to be, have to be. Okay, that's what's

484
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Speaker 3: kept him in some of these games.

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Speaker 2: I think that time off did a lot for him,

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Speaker 2: and you see kind of a different layer of understanding

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Speaker 2: for Bryce Young. It seems to be a lot slower

488
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Speaker 2: for him since coming off that break that he had

489
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Speaker 2: as a starter. I think he's starting to stamp his

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Speaker 2: place back as.

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Speaker 4: Being the guy there.

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Speaker 2: But you're talking about the receiver group. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I've been saying this every week. There's probably two guys

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Speaker 2: that I think would be the second best receiver on

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Speaker 2: this team right now, and that's Adam Theelen and Xavier Languet.

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Speaker 2: And I would almost factor Jalen Cocher into that equation

497
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Speaker 2: as well. Jalen Coker an undrafted guy out of Holy Cross.

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Speaker 2: He was a Shrine Bowl guy. I hear it here

499
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Speaker 2: in Frisco last year, and he's been he has been

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Speaker 2: banged up a little bit. He's becoming a fan favorite

501
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Speaker 2: for the Panthers. I mean, he's he's made big plays,

502
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Speaker 2: he's a he's one of the guys that talks more

503
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Speaker 2: in the locker room than anybody. Also, the Panthers just

504
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Speaker 2: have a ton of media access as well.

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Speaker 4: A lot of these guys.

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Speaker 2: It feels like they talked during the week, just kind

507
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Speaker 2: of going back and looking at what they do. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's a no, no, no, it's a little bit uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: They are able to h they are able to uh

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Speaker 2: video in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, damn, but yeah, but I think, yeah,

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Speaker 4: exactly exactly. I think, uh.

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Speaker 2: I think with this receiver group though, I think I

514
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Speaker 2: think you keep an eye on a few of these guys.

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Speaker 4: And then Jatavian Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I hate to do this to you, Derek, but I'm

517
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Speaker 2: not a huge fan of Datavian Sanders. I loved his

518
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Speaker 2: potential in college. I just don't think he's an NFL athlete.

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Speaker 2: You see him be able to bully guys at the

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Speaker 2: tighten position, and I think in those in that close range,

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Speaker 2: within like the five to ten yard range, he can

522
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Speaker 2: really make Uh, he can really pick up some yardage.

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Speaker 2: But he's not going to be that run after the

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Speaker 2: catch guy. He's not going to be the guy that

525
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Speaker 2: separates on routes. Uh, he's just gonna be He's gonna

526
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Speaker 2: try to over physical you and try to try to

527
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Speaker 2: basically man balls away from you.

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Speaker 4: Out It is as it is it is. And then

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Speaker 4: you know, I have I have to talk about Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Brooks to tearing his a c L once again. He's

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Speaker 4: another Texas guy.

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Speaker 2: Overshon is not the only one that's that's dealing with

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Speaker 2: back to back torn a c L. So, uh, shout

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Speaker 2: out to Jonathan Brooks as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: You know, David Moore too, has been a guy they

537
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Speaker 7: got from Tampa Bay and he thought he was a writer. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: this one, this one can make contests to catches. Yeah yeah,

539
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Speaker 7: this one right here can make no. But they've got

540
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Speaker 7: it's kind of a sneaky group, it really really and

541
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Speaker 7: they and they have played better. I was watching the

542
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Speaker 7: games I the first part of that season that that's

543
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Speaker 7: a train wreck what was going on there. And but

544
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Speaker 7: they are, they are playing better football offensively, and they're

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Speaker 7: going to they're going to to challenge you because of

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Speaker 7: I always say this, how tight they play the condensed formations,

547
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Speaker 7: and they're gonna make you chase guys. If you're gonna

548
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Speaker 7: play man coverage, they're gonna make you chase them. And

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Speaker 7: they're gonna they're gonna test you a little bit with that,

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Speaker 7: with the way that they play their routes or use

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Speaker 7: their routes.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about chub Chewba Hubbard, Yeah, what makes

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Speaker 1: him so tough as a running.

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Speaker 2: Back, He's built low on the ground, He's he's tough

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Speaker 2: to bring down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's really tough.

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Speaker 2: If he gets lower than you at the at the

558
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Speaker 2: point of attack, he's gonna he's gonna power through you.

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Speaker 2: And uh, he's just a tough guy to bring down.

560
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Speaker 2: The veteran presence that he brings. You're starting to see

561
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Speaker 2: what the experience in the league has done for him

562
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Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, because I think early

563
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Speaker 2: in his career he underwhelmed quite a bit. But I

564
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Speaker 2: think these last couple of years, he's starting to really

565
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Speaker 2: put it together, so much so that they've given him

566
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Speaker 2: a contract, even despite drafting Jonathan Brooks in the second round.

567
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Speaker 2: I think experience has done so much for him. But

568
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Speaker 2: he's just a physical guy. He's tough to bring down.

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Speaker 2: It's really good between the tackles and with this offensive line,

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Speaker 2: it makes a lot of sense why he's having the

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Speaker 2: year he's having.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I say that between the tackles outside, it's

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys have faced some of his very similar tight backs,

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Speaker 7: the mixing guys like that that play. You know, they're powerful.

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Speaker 7: They when you hit them, they can bounce off them.

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Speaker 7: You know, you got to wrap this guy up. I

577
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Speaker 7: just think that to me when and usually with these

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Speaker 7: backs I kind of look and see, Okay, how are

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Speaker 7: they in blitz pick up?

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Speaker 3: How are they passed protect? This guy didn't give up

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Speaker 3: any sacks, you know.

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Speaker 7: So that just tells you right there that either they

583
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Speaker 7: get him involved with the routes, but when he has

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Speaker 7: to blitz protect or pass protect, can could be a

585
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Speaker 7: complete guy. Catch the football, run the ball, block those

586
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Speaker 7: kinds of guys you absolutely love to.

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Speaker 1: Have every offensive line, no matter how good has a

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Speaker 1: weak point. Obviously, you guys like this offensive line. If

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Speaker 1: you were going to attack them defensively and figure out

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Speaker 1: where you can get pass rush, where would you attack them?

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Speaker 2: I would say the interior. But I I really do

592
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Speaker 2: feel like there's a way to attack and pass rush

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Speaker 2: with just about all these guys I'm confident in and

594
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Speaker 2: being able to get around the right tackle Taylor Motone.

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Speaker 4: How you say it, Moto Moton, But I think you're.

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Speaker 5: Saying you don't think they can get around him.

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Speaker 7: He's given up the most sacks. Oh you can't get

598
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Speaker 7: around Yeah he has. He's given up five.

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Speaker 2: Man pff and next gen they need to have like

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Speaker 2: a merger because this is the social zero for ye know.

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Speaker 4: He's moo.

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Speaker 7: They say that he's given up the most sacks is

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Speaker 7: what is what he said? But you, like I said,

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Speaker 7: and I think where you're absolutely right about this. This

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Speaker 7: this this offensive line is big and there and there.

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Speaker 7: That's where I think to me, you know, Robert hunt

607
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Speaker 7: inside has had some he's had some issues. Like you're watching,

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Speaker 7: like quickness gets him. I think movement and I think

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Speaker 7: the one thing Dallas does have with their with their

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Speaker 7: defensive line is movement with with Osa, you know with

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Speaker 7: micah uh even even Golston has a little bit of

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Speaker 7: movement to him. I would not be surprised if you see,

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Speaker 7: like the Dallas get their twist game going back with this,

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Speaker 7: you know, trying to find some.

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Speaker 3: Ways maybe they're they're they're way of funny. And you

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Speaker 3: know when teams now.

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Speaker 7: Have the way they blocking Dallas with they have the

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Speaker 7: the you know, the the the double a gap blitz.

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Speaker 7: You know, teams were putting tight ends and stuff and

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Speaker 7: backs and setting them up, you know, tight to the

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Speaker 7: line and protect. Carolina does it a little bit different way.

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Speaker 7: They put the two tight ends in the backfield and

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Speaker 7: then they put the back like an epistol formation, and

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Speaker 7: so they have like three in the backfield like an

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Speaker 7: inverted wishbone, and then what happens at snap They just

626
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Speaker 7: step up, they go play action off it, and then

627
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Speaker 7: but they have the guys to kind of yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 7: I mean, but but it's like that, it's like two

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Speaker 7: tight ends and then the back and the pistol and

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Speaker 7: then they step up and protect.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's saying Carolina.

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Speaker 7: Does something very similar, and I think that's how teams

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Speaker 7: are handling Dallas's double a gap. Look, so this is

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Speaker 7: where now I feel like that, Okay, if people are

635
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 7: trying to block you that way, that means that they're

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Speaker 7: they're they're worried about uh, they're worried about UH. When

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Speaker 7: you get Kendricks and at the time overshown in those

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Speaker 7: I just really think, yeah, I feel like that. I

639
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 7: feel like that any one of these spots at the

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Speaker 7: tackle spot could be really really good for the couch.

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Speaker 7: But I would say the movement is going to be

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Speaker 7: the most important. How do you get how do you

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00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 7: get these guys going one way and take them back

644
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 7: the other with a rush or make these guys want

645
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 7: they leave their tackles one on one eighty percent of

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Speaker 7: the game I went back. I'm like, it doesn't like

647
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 7: they're getting any help. I think it was eighty one

648
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Speaker 7: eighty two percent of these tackles. So they're trying to

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00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 7: help inside more than they are on the outside. So

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Speaker 7: try and find a way to win one on one

651
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Speaker 7: to get some of these slower footed these offensive linemen.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's take our final break.

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Speaker 1: We will come back and have a few more thoughts

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Speaker 1: on this Carolina offense and the Dallas Defense will be

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Speaker 5: All right, I have a question for you, guys. Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Back when he was in college, his legs for you,

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Speaker 1: he was and that's where I was going. It was

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Speaker 1: like back then his legs were a problem. Yeah, Is

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Speaker 1: that as much of a problem at this point in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, or is that something where he's kind of

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00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: calmed that a little bit and then it's more about

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Speaker 1: him trying to throw from the pocket and maybe move

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Speaker 1: around some But is he is he really as dynamic

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Speaker 1: running the ball as he was in college.

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Speaker 2: Just from my perspective, I feel like last year he

727
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Speaker 2: tried early on to carry that athleticism over and defenses

728
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Speaker 2: were just attacking him. He really have the offensive line

729
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Speaker 2: around him to be able to accommodate for that, and

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Speaker 2: he got swarmed as a result, and I think it

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Speaker 2: kind of killed his confidence from an athleticism standpoint, because

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Speaker 2: I think you saw him earlier in the year being

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Speaker 2: not necessarily an entire statue, but more of a statue

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Speaker 2: than what he had been in the past, and then

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Speaker 2: you see That's what I more so say about. I

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Speaker 2: think that time off did a lot for him because

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Speaker 2: he went back to the sideline, and I think since

738
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: he's come back into the game, he started to be

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00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: a little bit more athletic. Granted, I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: going to be that guy that takes off for a

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Speaker 2: thirty yard run. I don't think he's necessarily that right now,

742
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Speaker 2: but I think he is a guy that can get

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Speaker 2: outside of the pocket, throw on the run, and make

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Speaker 2: some really impressive throws downfield like he did at Alabama.

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Speaker 4: He's on the upper trajectory.

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Speaker 2: I think he came into the league and just went down, down, down,

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Speaker 2: And I think he's starting to come back up a

748
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Speaker 2: little bit. You're starting to see the bright spots of

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young and his athleticism. His mobility will always have

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Speaker 2: to be a part of that because of the size

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Speaker 2: that he is. If his athleticism and his mobility is

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Speaker 2: taken out of the equation, he is not the quarter

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Speaker 2: that was selected first overall last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think the thing when you watch him play that

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Speaker 7: there's now a little bit more of a willingness too

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Speaker 7: if things. Especially watching the Kansas City game, they were

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00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 7: the way they played, like man coverage and stuff, and

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00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 7: he was he was seeing like he would go back

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Speaker 7: and then he would see a gap and he would

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Speaker 7: just take off. You know, It's like okay, then you know,

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Speaker 7: get what you can get down on the ground. I

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Speaker 7: think they're kind of encouraging him to use his legs more. Uh,

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Speaker 7: he does have the ability. He's a slippery player though

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Speaker 7: when you watch him play, you know, I mean at Alabama.

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Speaker 3: He was amazing.

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Speaker 7: We were just joking about the the Texas game and

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Speaker 7: how he saved that game in Austin one time. Just

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Speaker 7: duck it, you know, just he's dead to rights and

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Speaker 7: he ducks it and then next thing you know, he's

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Speaker 7: up the sidelines and there in field goal range. But

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Speaker 7: that's he he has that kind of ability. He is

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Speaker 7: so small though when you watch him play, I mean

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Speaker 7: he is like you look at Joe Burrow and others

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Speaker 7: of the guys that they play and he and then

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Speaker 7: you watch this guy and he's just like so small

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Speaker 7: out there, but you know they're he's throwing the ball better.

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Speaker 7: He's he's he's more confident in him throwing the ball.

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Speaker 7: He's confident what he's seeing. He is a different quarterback

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Speaker 7: than what the Cowboys you know, faced last year at

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Speaker 7: this time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, quick question, since I'm trying to wrap my head

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Speaker 8: around like what this matchup or how this matchup is

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Speaker 8: going to look like.

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Speaker 3: You're winning a half point dogs in this.

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Speaker 8: One, especially with like overshown being out and how the defense,

787
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Speaker 8: how that's going to affect the defense. I feel like

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00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 8: we never really got a chance to talk about Trevon

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00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 8: and Duran Blam back together and how they looked on

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Speaker 8: the field like after the game, and that was something

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Speaker 8: we were waiting for for a while, so we kind

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Speaker 8: of mentioned it a little bit. But how'd you feel

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Speaker 8: about like their coverage overall and working together.

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Speaker 4: I think they had a Jamar Chase problem, yeah, but

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Speaker 4: other than that, it was.

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Speaker 5: By the way the NFL has Chase.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, he was ten to twelve against all receipt all

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Speaker 7: cornerbacks that played against Smith this past weekend.

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Speaker 2: I think whatever you look at Deron Bland, I was

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00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 2: getting ready postgame to write about how his coverage skills

802
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: have just taken off this year and it's been significantly

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Speaker 2: better than when he was, you know, being that pick

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Speaker 2: six machine last year, because I think it was more

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00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: so boom or bust with Deron Bland at times last year,

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Speaker 2: whereas I feel like this time around, we're not calling

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Speaker 2: his name as much for a good reason because he's

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00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: not getting thrown at that often. I was getting ready

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Speaker 2: to do that until he gave up the game winning

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Speaker 2: touchdown and then I was like, Okay, maybe we'll save

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Speaker 2: that for next week. So it's all that timing with

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Speaker 2: Trayvon Diggs that he played a ton of snaps.

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Speaker 4: He looked healthy doing so.

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Speaker 2: I think this Jamar Chase issue was just I didn't

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Speaker 2: see them playing bad on him. I really didn't see

816
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 2: them having bad coverage on Jamar Chase. I just saw

817
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: a better quarterback receiver connection. I mean, those two guys

818
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: are so locked in. It felt like every time that

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Speaker 2: Chase got a reception that he had a corner draped

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Speaker 2: over him each time. It wasn't like the run after

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00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: catch really came until that very last catch that was

822
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Speaker 2: a bad play by Deron Bland. He oversold it and

823
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Speaker 2: then he got turned around and it was gone from there.

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Speaker 2: You take that play out of the equation. The run

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Speaker 2: after the catch wasn't really there for Chase because he

826
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Speaker 2: had a corner on him each time. I think Burrow

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Speaker 2: is just so precisely accurate, and Chase has strong hands,

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Speaker 2: and that connection is so good that it would have

829
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Speaker 2: been really difficult to stop Jamar Chase from so good

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Speaker 2: practice for.

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Speaker 8: The receivers you're gonna face this week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and this receiver crew is definitely not as good,

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Speaker 2: but I think there are still some guys good.

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Speaker 1: Your defensive backs can match up with it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Okay.

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Speaker 7: I think Cincinnati went into this game playing these guys

837
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Speaker 7: thinking they could not play.

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Speaker 3: The out routes.

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Speaker 7: I think I think I think I think Cincinnati said

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Speaker 7: Dallas cannot will not drive on the ball on the outside,

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Speaker 7: because you look at all the routes, you know, it

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Speaker 7: was the next gen had it the most most receptions

843
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 7: on out routes in years was in.

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Speaker 3: This football game. That his ability.

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Speaker 7: And then it's like when they were playing zone, they

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00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 7: were running out routes. When they went man, they took

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Speaker 7: him inside. It's like Cincinnati had a plan for how

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Speaker 7: they were going to attack Dallas in this game. They

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Speaker 7: probably I can say, look at the number of routes

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Speaker 7: that he caught, there were out routes, because that's that's

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Speaker 7: really That's how it was.

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Speaker 15: Like.

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Speaker 7: When I went back, I'm like, God, it's it is.

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Speaker 7: You watched the Tate out and out and out silent out.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's like Dallas would lose him and and

856
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 7: it's and it they they've obviously felt like that.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to be able to talk to somebody.

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Speaker 7: In Cincinnati and say, did you guys feel like that

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00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 7: Dallas could not defend the outs? And I would be

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Speaker 7: interesting to see because the majority of his catches were

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Speaker 7: the out routes and stuff like that. Dallas did not

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Speaker 7: play those very very well.

863
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a question from Dave Diagostino. He says,

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Speaker 1: what happened in to Montclark.

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Speaker 4: Lost confidence with the coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's big.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he lost confidence with the coaching staff. His snap

868
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Speaker 2: started getting taken away and overshown. Emergence was obviously very notable.

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Speaker 2: And then Leah foul passed him up as well, and

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Speaker 2: at that point there wasn't really a spot to keep

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Speaker 2: him around. And if John Fossil was gonna get either

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Speaker 2: Nick Vigil or Damont Clark on special teams, he would

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Speaker 2: have taken Vigil ten times out of ten. So he

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Speaker 2: lost confidence early on. He was missing run gaps. His

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00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: gap discipline was not strong early in those games we're

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Speaker 2: talking about in those first three games, whenever they were

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Speaker 2: giving up mountains of rushing yards. You look at de

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Speaker 2: Moont Clark and where he was in those situations. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't great. Granted he wasn't he wasn't benefited by the

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Speaker 2: defensive line in front of him.

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Speaker 4: They were not helping him by any means. But he

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Speaker 4: lost confidence with his coaching staff very very soon, very

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Speaker 4: early on.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be very telling as we

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Speaker 1: go over the next few games. If da Mont Clark

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Speaker 1: is either inactive or active and not playing very much

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Speaker 1: on defense, that's gonna tell you a whole.

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Speaker 5: Bunch about it.

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Speaker 1: At this point, where he is this team and what

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Speaker 1: the expectations are for the offseason.

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Speaker 2: I would assume he'd be active since overshown is now

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Speaker 2: out of the equation. I would assume that they would

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Speaker 2: bring up a linebacker from the practice squad that they

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Speaker 2: would sign, and he would be the new inactive guy

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Speaker 2: just to be around. I brock Mugenson as a guy,

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Speaker 2: he's undrafted out of South South Dakota.

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Speaker 4: He's he's around.

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Speaker 2: But you also have Darius Harris that's that's still on

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Speaker 2: the practice squad as well.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's the guy that gets assigned.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Okay, but Dumont Clark, Yeah, yeah, You're gonna learn

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Speaker 2: a lot about where he stands with this coaching staff

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Speaker 2: in the next cus.

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Speaker 7: Circle back real quick about the Chase conversation. I found

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Speaker 7: the clip Jamar Chase hauled in nine of his eleven

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Speaker 7: targets on outbreaking routes for one hundred and twenty two

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Speaker 7: yards and two touchdowns, the most receiving yards on outbreaking

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Speaker 7: routes over the last seven seasons.

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Speaker 4: I'm writing that down. Good stuff Brian brought us.

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Speaker 7: There's there's something that they clearly felt like that Dallas

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Speaker 7: could not defend balls that were going going outside. Now,

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Speaker 7: maybe things going inside breaking routes, driving on the ball

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Speaker 7: and stuff, but nine of his nine of his eleven

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Speaker 7: targets and.

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Speaker 3: He had he had fourteen targets overall.

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Speaker 7: Uh so you know that are actually fourteen receptions for

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Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy seven yards, So nine of the

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Speaker 7: fourteen work came on those on those routes.

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Speaker 3: So there there was clearly something.

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Speaker 7: That they saw that Dallas couldn't handle that way.

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Speaker 5: Ye all right, that is a rap. We will be

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Speaker 5: back on. Yeah, I got too.

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Speaker 1: This is we'll be back tomorrow. We will get into

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Speaker 1: the Carolina. Yeah, we get Carolina. We'll get to the

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Speaker 1: Carolina defense versus the Cowboys offense. Until then, for Nick Harris,

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us a We're gonna see I'm Derek Heiltson.

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