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Speaker 1: Now let's start the show. Hello, Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of Club Shasha. I am your host and the pro
Speaker 1: productor Club Shashai. Shan is sharp and the guy that's
Speaker 1: coming by to I've a drink and talk today really
Speaker 1: needs no introduction, but I'll introduce him anyway. He's actor, producer, author,
Speaker 1: thirty years in the movie Game Some people know him
Speaker 1: Miss Ricky, I know Miss Mo Morris chefs nut all
Speaker 1: my life, running all my life, sacrifice, hustle back price.
Speaker 1: One slice got the bron dice to swap all my life.
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, running
Speaker 1: all my life, sacrifice, hustle back prices. One slice got
Speaker 1: the bron dice to swap all my life. I've been
Speaker 1: running in all my life. More? What's going on? Bruh Man? Man?
Speaker 1: Thirty years See, I got in it when I was two,
Speaker 1: so I'm thirty two. Right now, I'm getting old. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm getting over but you but you're still in the
Speaker 1: game though I'm doing the game. Man. It's been a blessing.
Speaker 1: It's definitely been a blessing. So how have you been.
Speaker 1: What's been going on? What have you been up to
Speaker 1: the last couple of months? I know the pas great,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run down a whole bunch of stuff. So well, One,
Speaker 1: I just had a movie. I produced a movie that
Speaker 1: came out on streaming U two weeks ago called Spell.
Speaker 1: It was with Karl Hardwick and laure De Vine and
Speaker 1: I was project I'm excited about Right now, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: in Atlanta during the second season of The Resident. I
Speaker 1: only came on for for one season, but because of
Speaker 1: the pandemic, you know, things got a little messed up,
Speaker 1: and so I came back to wrap up the character
Speaker 1: and so that that's been fun. And I have one
Speaker 1: of the most the projects that I'm most excited about.
Speaker 1: I have this, uh this podcast coming out called Jesus
Speaker 1: Versus Big Joe Okay, and it's about It's about a
Speaker 1: high school football player who was you know, he was
Speaker 1: one of the best lineman in the country, recruited by
Speaker 1: Bobby Boden lou Holts. Everything he got caught up, went
Speaker 1: to went to USC got caught up in some medical stuff,
Speaker 1: had eighteen surgeries and application. It's a faith based project
Speaker 1: and he it's about how he overcomes all that adversity
Speaker 1: to find guys. I'm really I'm excited about that one.
Speaker 1: Up back to what you're working on. The movie that
Speaker 1: you produced us call Spell Start hard Headwick and had
Speaker 1: Loretta Divine. Yeah, what what made you go on this genre?
Speaker 1: So what happened was so the producer I'd worked with
Speaker 1: the producer Gordon Gray before on another project, and he
Speaker 1: asked me. He called me into the office. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: can you read the script? And he wanted me to
Speaker 1: do this movie. So when I read this script, the
Speaker 1: script that he had, it kind of really wasn't what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do, Okay, So and so I called
Speaker 1: my manager and say, listen, you know I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. He says, well, let's talk to
Speaker 1: Borton about this. So we pitched him another concept of
Speaker 1: a movie and it was this one. It was it
Speaker 1: was spell. So we we pitched him the concept. He
Speaker 1: was into it. We found the writers wrote the script.
Speaker 1: The writers wrote the script and Kurt Wimer, who's who's
Speaker 1: a great writer. I had some you know, I had
Speaker 1: some uh you know, everything in the movie wasn't as
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be. But that's that's movie made.
Speaker 1: So so you went from possibly starring in the movie
Speaker 1: to help writing and co producing the movie. Right. So
Speaker 1: it was so when the producer gave me the script,
Speaker 1: it was something completely different and it's not it wasn't
Speaker 1: something that I wanted to do. So my writer, my
Speaker 1: manager was like my Brian, Brian, my manager, Brian Wilcomes,
Speaker 1: He was like, listen, let's pitch them, you know, this
Speaker 1: concept and that hint that Brian and I had already
Speaker 1: previously discussed. So you had already been working on this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my manager and I we talk about concepts all
Speaker 1: the time. Okay, okay, show for movies, for the podcasts.
Speaker 1: That fact, you're gonna be in a call for me
Speaker 1: soon because I have a concept for a sitcom with
Speaker 1: you in mind. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. You
Speaker 1: know what, I always didn't want to do a thick calm.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be be on TV full time
Speaker 1: and have a thick calm. Ay man, Hey, don't just
Speaker 1: talk about it. I'm telling you. I mean you're sitting
Speaker 1: now on the camera on Club Sha Shay. You'll get
Speaker 1: that call from the network hey saying your available, so
Speaker 1: the hey watch out now. Oh I'll definitely be I'll
Speaker 1: definitely be available. I'll make myself available. Okay. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I talked to you about that because I have
Speaker 1: a couple of concepts in one and I talked to
Speaker 1: you about it. But yeah, so my manager and I,
Speaker 1: so my manager was, you know, we were talking about
Speaker 1: this concept and we pitched it to Gordon. Gordon liked it,
Speaker 1: so that's when we got it was nothing. It was nothing,
Speaker 1: just concept between my manager and I and we got
Speaker 1: the writer and Kurt Wimmer, who was an incredible writer.
Speaker 1: I mean he got there. We met with a few writers.
Speaker 1: Kurt came in. He immediately got the story and he
Speaker 1: turned the script around really quick and h and when
Speaker 1: its production. In matter of fact, when I was on
Speaker 1: this show when it started going in production, but initially
Speaker 1: I was attending to starting. So let me ask you,
Speaker 1: so it's because I noticed a lot of people are
Speaker 1: doing streaming, A lot of people are doing like Netflix,
Speaker 1: not the big not the other big budget If that
Speaker 1: because the COVID, if you've had to find a different
Speaker 1: way to still do your craft, it's I can't say
Speaker 1: it's just because of COVID. Okay, you know, even the
Speaker 1: movies that are released now is normally if they're like
Speaker 1: the big Marvel blockbusters, you know, it's very rare that
Speaker 1: the that the that the that the low budget independent
Speaker 1: can find an audience. And so the great thing about streaming,
Speaker 1: you know with the Netflix and Amazons is you know,
Speaker 1: you get global exposure and you get a platform, so
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you produce, you know, it gives people
Speaker 1: opportunity to see what you do right back in the day.
Speaker 1: I know people who've made independent movies for fifty sixty
Speaker 1: million dollars and they're sitting on a shelf somewhere and
Speaker 1: nobody saw this would before streaming, even streaming even you know,
Speaker 1: you know, took over the game, right, So do you
Speaker 1: think the streaming is like, how do I say? This?
Speaker 1: Is this what we're going to see more and more
Speaker 1: up until we come out of this pandemic. I think
Speaker 1: until we come out of the pandemic. Yes. However, you know,
Speaker 1: I say, I have a couple of other movies that
Speaker 1: I'm actively producing, and I really want them to go
Speaker 1: to the theater because to me, there's nothing like you know,
Speaker 1: I have a comedy experience, experience experience. You know, everybody's
Speaker 1: there sharing the same thing, and after the feeling, there's
Speaker 1: nothing like that experience. So I can't wait. I can't
Speaker 1: wait for it to come back. The smell of the popcorn,
Speaker 1: you know that, the people talking in the background. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like for me, I mean, I'm a movie guy,
Speaker 1: but I just find myself if I'm watching a movie
Speaker 1: at home, I'm like, I wonder to whet us as
Speaker 1: own television where if I'm at the movie, I can't
Speaker 1: I can't just flip back. I can't just get up,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stay very It's a very captive audience.
Speaker 1: That's why, you know, for a long time, you know,
Speaker 1: when you have when you have people as quote unquote
Speaker 1: movie stars, because you go into this, you go into this, this,
Speaker 1: this theater is blacked out, and you're just so captivated
Speaker 1: on that screen for you know, twenty half hours. That's
Speaker 1: why it's you know, as an artist sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: we're very responsible about, you know, the messages that we
Speaker 1: send because people are really absorbing disorbing those messages. So
Speaker 1: you're also doing the Residents. You say you were only
Speaker 1: gonna do one season, but you came back because of
Speaker 1: the pandemic. You came back fulfilling the obligation. So are
Speaker 1: you done after this season? Are you gonna have a
Speaker 1: reoccurring role? Well, so, you know, things are always fluid.
Speaker 1: I mean, you never know what's happened. I love listen.
Speaker 1: I love the cast, I love the producers. I love
Speaker 1: the environment. You know here telling people about your character,
Speaker 1: telling people your neurosurgeon. Yes, I played a neurosurgeon. And
Speaker 1: what attracted me to this character. I played a neurosurgeon
Speaker 1: that's based off of a real life person. I say
Speaker 1: a couple of people, please don't say it's Big Carson. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not being Carson. But I wasn't gonna say something. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say no. So it's based off the character. And
Speaker 1: so the one thing I really wanted to one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I really wanted to play this character
Speaker 1: because it's completely different than anything I've played before, and
Speaker 1: this character, out of probably everything that I've done, the
Speaker 1: response when I'm in public is most passionate about this character,
Speaker 1: really in a negative way. Oh yeah, because I play
Speaker 1: I play a doctor, right, is a nerro surgeon who
Speaker 1: is basically he's more concerned about the bottom line of
Speaker 1: the hospital instead of the patient. Right, come in and
Speaker 1: I see that you you don't need this invasive surgery.
Speaker 1: Invasive surgery, but it's good for the bottom line of
Speaker 1: the hospital. I'm gonna recommend that you get there. Well,
Speaker 1: you found like a real doctor to me, Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the problem. No, no, no, they're just supposed to
Speaker 1: be well being in the patient. Yeah, So, but I
Speaker 1: remember you on the fire you did a Fox show
Speaker 1: called Rosewood, Yeah, where you were a forensic guy, right right, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: So you you like playing these doctors roles? Well, you
Speaker 1: know one thing I love one thing I do love
Speaker 1: about playing doctors because it does they do. They convey
Speaker 1: us certain amount of intelligence. You know, they make me
Speaker 1: sound smarter than I am with all that dialogue. I
Speaker 1: have to rehearse that dialogue all night, but I get
Speaker 1: it down. Yeah. But yeah, So the one thing about Rosewood,
Speaker 1: the one thing that really drew me to this character,
Speaker 1: because the Rosewood character was extremely optimistic about every single situation, right,
Speaker 1: this character is not so much. So it's playing a
Speaker 1: doctor in a different light when you played when you
Speaker 1: played Rosewood, did you meet with any forensic guys to
Speaker 1: understand what they do, how they do it, how they
Speaker 1: go about their business. Did you meet with anybody to
Speaker 1: learn how to better play that role. Yes, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: had a technical advisor on set all the time and
Speaker 1: asking you know, I was always asking him a ton
Speaker 1: of questions about it. It's a very it's a very
Speaker 1: interesting job. But one of my I mean my favorite shows.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm not watching sports, I'm either watching
Speaker 1: for forensic Files with the dateline. Yeah, you know, so
Speaker 1: those so Rosewood was right up my alley in that sense,
Speaker 1: it was a humor. There was a lot of humored
Speaker 1: to it. But Rosewood was right up in my alley.
Speaker 1: And being able to talk to that for forensics professional,
Speaker 1: it was very Uh it's a very I definitely couldn't
Speaker 1: do it in real life. I'll say that you're basically
Speaker 1: a black Quincy. I don't know if you are you
Speaker 1: all enough to remember Quincy? Oh, come on, man, I
Speaker 1: definitely remember Quincy. Yeah. You mentioned your faith your faith
Speaker 1: based podcast Jesus and Big Joe, and it's based loosely
Speaker 1: on our USC formerly USC football player. What made you decide?
Speaker 1: What made you decide to go this route? So? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm always always looking for something because I did
Speaker 1: a movie with TD Jake's called Broken about a number
Speaker 1: of years ago, and that was one of the projects.
Speaker 1: It was basically a project about this married couple who
Speaker 1: his wife got to an accident and their relationship, their
Speaker 1: marriage was being tested financially, emotionally, sexually, and she had
Speaker 1: one of her you know, her mother was in the
Speaker 1: house with us. So it was about you know, their
Speaker 1: marriage bows being tested, not easily broken. And it is
Speaker 1: one of the projects that I said, people come up
Speaker 1: to me for various projects. That project. People really come
Speaker 1: up you know, brothers come up to me all the time. Man,
Speaker 1: you know what. I was going through some situation just
Speaker 1: like that, and I saw that movie and my wife
Speaker 1: and I watched that movie and we kept the faith.
Speaker 1: We kept the faith. So I always knew I wanted
Speaker 1: to get back to doing something faith based. I recently
Speaker 1: before everything came out. Now it's about two years ago.
Speaker 1: I saw I heard the podcast Gladiator. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you Aaron Hernandez podcast. Yeah, okay, yeah, yes, And
Speaker 1: I didn't know all the information. So I'm listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast and I'm here in the store. I said, man,
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that podcast. Okay. So I met this
Speaker 1: this young passionate, very very talented producer named Kyle Hogan,
Speaker 1: and he we sat down at lunch and he told
Speaker 1: me the story or a Big Joe, and that's why
Speaker 1: that the project is Jesus Versus Big Joe. And it
Speaker 1: was something that it was a space that I always
Speaker 1: wanted to get back into. And when I heard the
Speaker 1: passion of Kyle, I met Big Joe, and I said,
Speaker 1: this is it. This is the one I want to do.
Speaker 1: Speaking of USC football players, you play a role in
Speaker 1: the Hood classic. Now it's a Mount Rushmore in the Hood.
Speaker 1: But Friday maybe how Party I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know the other guy, but I know those three is
Speaker 1: gonna be on everybody. Rushmore. When I mentioned Boys in
Speaker 1: the Hood and Ricky your first feature role, what what
Speaker 1: goes through your mind? Oh? Man, you know, uh, it's
Speaker 1: uh first honestly now, Uh you know John Singleton is
Speaker 1: you know, rest his soul. I mean, he gave me
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Uh so, it's it's it's it's sad in
Speaker 1: that regard. But I always go back to, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just when I was just starting out. I was just
Speaker 1: starting out, and I just wanted to be involved in
Speaker 1: a project that people would see and people would see
Speaker 1: me and recognize me for and he gave me an opportunity.
Speaker 1: And you know, the one thing I just love, you
Speaker 1: know about being involved in that project. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know to this day, Nia Fishburn, Regina Cuba, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody is still Angela, Everybody's still going. And it was
Speaker 1: a special special project. Obviously it's my first, my first
Speaker 1: big screen, first real movie actually, and it's it's something
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna hold. Dear. How did you lay in
Speaker 1: the role? Yeah, so I just got an agent, and
Speaker 1: actually it was it was a little bit of I
Speaker 1: got a little bit lucky for the role, of course,
Speaker 1: but here's where the luck is. So I when I
Speaker 1: was coming up as an actress, I started after I
Speaker 1: graduated from high school, I started acting and I was
Speaker 1: taking acting classes at this junior college in Long Beas,
Speaker 1: Longby City Junior College, and I said, okay, So I
Speaker 1: was getting some pretty good feedback. So I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I want to go to Hollywood and take
Speaker 1: an acting class there and see what people think. Now,
Speaker 1: at that time, Marla Gibbs, who was on The Jeffersons
Speaker 1: two two seven seven, she had an acting studio right
Speaker 1: in Lamert Park. It was right right in the hood.
Speaker 1: And so I said, I but her acting studio the
Speaker 1: people from the Jeffersons and two to seven they would
Speaker 1: come teaching a class. So I said, I want to
Speaker 1: get in front of the people who actually do it exactly.
Speaker 1: And so I went there and so cut to my
Speaker 1: agent gave me the information to go to this audition
Speaker 1: for this movie Boys in the Hood. I get excited.
Speaker 1: I go meet the cash director Jackie Brown, get the
Speaker 1: callback's John Singleton's in the call back. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh man, this cat he's my age and I got
Speaker 1: this jong Katt. So that was a little bit easier then.
Speaker 1: But then after the second meeting when I met John,
Speaker 1: my agent calls me like, listen, you have a screen test.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, so, back then, Hollywood screen tests.
Speaker 1: You go down to the studio. They have all the
Speaker 1: cameras and all the crew and everything just for a
Speaker 1: screen tests. I'm like, man, it's my first big Hollywood
Speaker 1: screen tests. So I'm getting all excited. I had a
Speaker 1: pager back then. I was exciting and something. And so
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, okay, so where is it. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking he's gonna stay Columbia, Warner Brothers, someone like that.
Speaker 1: He says it's at Crossroads Academy, LAMURK Park. I'm like,
Speaker 1: Lamur Park Tests Acting School. That's that's that's what the
Speaker 1: screen test is. And he's like, yes, where it is.
Speaker 1: And so you know, John wanted to keep everything in
Speaker 1: South Central but where that played into my favors because
Speaker 1: when I had to go for the screen test, I
Speaker 1: was already in a comfortable environment. I had already school,
Speaker 1: I was already comfortable there, and so that played into
Speaker 1: me getting the park. Did you know it would turn
Speaker 1: out to be what it is? And here we are
Speaker 1: thirty years later and people are still talking about that movie.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's one of the first thing when people
Speaker 1: meet you. That's one of the first things they talk about. Man,
Speaker 1: I remember you in the Boy in the Hood? Boy
Speaker 1: you were great? Yeah, you know what, it's two things.
Speaker 1: So it's one of the movies that people from I
Speaker 1: hit people literally from around the world say they learned
Speaker 1: English from watching Boys in Hood one movie and they
Speaker 1: see that. But at the time I didn't. I was
Speaker 1: literally on set. I'll never forget. I was absorbing everything
Speaker 1: at the time. You know, que had an album, you know, Fishburn.
Speaker 1: He wasn't fish at the time. You know, he had
Speaker 1: worked and Cuba had been in a few holding deals
Speaker 1: or some studios, but he hadn't been on the show
Speaker 1: that last long. So I'm like, so I'm looking around, like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a movie. I'm a lead in the movie.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows me. I didn't think the movie is gonna
Speaker 1: do anything. You know, I thought it would be you know,
Speaker 1: I thought we were making a good movie, but there's
Speaker 1: no way I thought there was gonna be to the
Speaker 1: magnitude that it turned out to be. You mentioned the
Speaker 1: names Cuba Gooding, Junior, Ice Cube, Lawrence fish Burn, Neil Long,
Speaker 1: Regina King, and the Baskette, and as you mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: the majority of these are still going strong. Regina. I
Speaker 1: think Regina is have a show on HBO, the movie
Speaker 1: she directed a movie, Yes, won an Oscar an Oscar. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have three. So, uh, Cuba was nominated, Fishburn was nominated.
Speaker 1: I think Angelo one, and Regina one. Right, so you
Speaker 1: got hey, so what's up? I mean, what what's up?
Speaker 1: Rob me? Yeah? It was one of those things, you
Speaker 1: know exactly it was. It was one of those things
Speaker 1: that I was I didn't go to a point where
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I gotta I gotta get I
Speaker 1: gotta get right when that movie came. When we did
Speaker 1: that movie, I was crazy green. You know, I was
Speaker 1: someone that was just happy to be on set and
Speaker 1: you know, walking around and being around all these experienced actors,
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things. Man, Yeah, they all
Speaker 1: got nominated. I've never gone for that. I would love
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity for a role like that, so
Speaker 1: nominated it. But I'm just to be honest, I'm just
Speaker 1: happy to still be here and still be kicking you know,
Speaker 1: are you? I mean you think about your first role
Speaker 1: and it's a movie like that. Obviously at the time,
Speaker 1: you don't know it's going to be a movie like that, right,
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel now to know that, Man,
Speaker 1: I did that. I haven't I can say I haven't
Speaker 1: really reflected on it that way, Okay, you know, I
Speaker 1: just when when people, like when you asked me about
Speaker 1: the movie, there's things that I think about, like I'll
Speaker 1: never forget when I'm thinking about how green I was
Speaker 1: because I never had a mentor anybody in this industry.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you know, talking about an
Speaker 1: Oscar I literally after I did Boys in the Hood,
Speaker 1: it was one of the biggest movies you know out.
Speaker 1: I literally went from that to a sitcom and back
Speaker 1: then you didn't do that. Back then, it was either
Speaker 1: you were either in movies on television show. But that's
Speaker 1: how much guidance I didn't have. I wish I had somebody,
Speaker 1: But I think back, there's a this is how green
Speaker 1: I was. My agent called me the movie was performing well,
Speaker 1: I mean the movie was finished, and he said, hey,
Speaker 1: your movie's gonna go to the Calm Film Festival. I
Speaker 1: was like con I said, well, how come they're not
Speaker 1: gonna release it here? You know, that's just how green
Speaker 1: I was at the time, you know, and not knowing
Speaker 1: that that was you know, it was a it was
Speaker 1: a great response over there, and that was a catapult
Speaker 1: globally for the film. You mentioned that back then, you
Speaker 1: know you wouldn't you know, you did the movie and
Speaker 1: then you did a sitcom. Do you regret doing the sitcom?
Speaker 1: Or would do you wish you had just stuck with movies? Why? Why?
Speaker 1: Why did you bring that up? Because it was it
Speaker 1: was a when I looked back, like I said, I've
Speaker 1: never really had a mentor in the industry, like I
Speaker 1: had an agent at that time to an agent at
Speaker 1: that time who just wanted me just to do another job. Right.
Speaker 1: So when I talk about that, obviously, if I had
Speaker 1: to go back and do things all over again, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things I would do differently. But I
Speaker 1: always like to bring that up because a lot of
Speaker 1: times people come up to me, especially in LA I'm
Speaker 1: at the gym working out of playing ball. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know I want to get put on what I
Speaker 1: have to do. I was like, all right, man. So
Speaker 1: I always say like, you know, at that time, I
Speaker 1: wish I would have been I never really I was
Speaker 1: in acting classes, but I wasn't really acting. I was
Speaker 1: just kind of just going for the money. So I
Speaker 1: wish I would have studied more. And then when my
Speaker 1: agent pushed me towards that. So I have the experience
Speaker 1: in the industry to where when people come up to me,
Speaker 1: I can give them some pretty good guidance because I've
Speaker 1: been around for a minute, right, so you could give
Speaker 1: them sound advice that you didn't get when you were
Speaker 1: coming up without a doubt and without a doubt. And
Speaker 1: I always like to go back to those things to tell, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what I went through. But you know, most
Speaker 1: of the time it falls on deaf ears because a
Speaker 1: lot of people come to LA they kind of just
Speaker 1: they want to get discovered on the street corner or
Speaker 1: they want to you know, they want to just go
Speaker 1: to the party and you know, get discovered at a party,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't work like that. That's only in the
Speaker 1: movies that they're not gonna be in exactly. So let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. If I were to say, okay, mo,
Speaker 1: give me your your top five good classic movies of
Speaker 1: all time, whether you've been in them or not, your
Speaker 1: top five top five Okay, all right, so I'm a
Speaker 1: little biased with Boys in the Hood, but I'll go
Speaker 1: back to I don't know, you may be too young,
Speaker 1: too young for this, but COOLi High, I remember COOLi High.
Speaker 1: Julia I was a classic. Okay, you know what I
Speaker 1: have to say. One of my favorites, uh was Dead Presidents,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, yeah, they put it down with Dead President,
Speaker 1: U Man Love New Jack Love, New Jack City. Right,
Speaker 1: and then of course you know Friday was is always
Speaker 1: gonna be up there. Yes, so I would have to
Speaker 1: is that four or five? How many? Is that? That's fine?
Speaker 1: That's fine, okay, Yeah, that's fine. It's hard. It's hard
Speaker 1: because you leave, you leave house party out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: go back, I go back to pelitentiary. All right, Right,
Speaker 1: that's right, right, right, it is hard. You know what
Speaker 1: I think. I think the thing is that I think
Speaker 1: it's the thing that that most affects people like like
Speaker 1: when I look back, you know, and and and coolly high.
Speaker 1: I really felt the motion, just as watching that movie
Speaker 1: you know, House Party, I mean, Friday was funny. I
Speaker 1: love House Party too, you know dance, but you know,
Speaker 1: I really I really enjoyed thinking back Dead President Lorenz
Speaker 1: takes a friend of my performance and Alan and the
Speaker 1: Hughes brothers, I mean, they put together a really good piece.
Speaker 1: And Chris Tucker in that movie was you know, he
Speaker 1: had a dramatic side to that movie. There are a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of nice elements of that movie, dou if
Speaker 1: there do you do you wish there was a movie
Speaker 1: that there could have been a sequel to that you
Speaker 1: did in your career? Uh, let me see, I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, I do, even though I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: in it. I wish it would been a sequel to
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood Everybody, or a prequel. Let's do
Speaker 1: a prequel. Yeah, I think I think Boys. I wish
Speaker 1: Boys we could have done. We could have done a sequel.
Speaker 1: We did a sequel to the Best Man, which was cool,
Speaker 1: and yeah, we may be doing something there again, so
Speaker 1: that franchise, but yeah, that would be it. What what
Speaker 1: do you remember about your first audition, my first audition
Speaker 1: since Okay, so that's a tough one. So what happened
Speaker 1: when I was starting out, Uh, this thing called the
Speaker 1: Drama Logue. It would come out every every Thursday. You
Speaker 1: get in there, you find out you know who's you
Speaker 1: know who's looking for you submit your picture, so I
Speaker 1: would say, in my picture out. So I had auditions
Speaker 1: for student films. I had auditions for films that never
Speaker 1: even made it. As a matter of fact, you mentioned Penitentiary.
Speaker 1: One of the films that I one of my first
Speaker 1: big auditions was for Penitentiary. And one of the other
Speaker 1: first big auditions it was an open call for two
Speaker 1: two seven, Okay, not penitiary. It was it was it
Speaker 1: wasn't a penitentiary. It was I think it was penitentiary.
Speaker 1: Two got the I forgot the director. I think it
Speaker 1: was the same director. So that's so, is there a
Speaker 1: role that you turned down that you that you wish
Speaker 1: you hadn't or there's a role that, man man, I
Speaker 1: wish I'd got an opportunity to play that. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's always those. But there was I can I
Speaker 1: can say this. There was a role that there was
Speaker 1: a role that I had an audition for, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what it was in a minute. But at
Speaker 1: the time, after Boys in the Hood came out, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, Q, when I we had some attention, I
Speaker 1: was very green. I had a long way to go
Speaker 1: in my development as an actor. Cuba was already there.
Speaker 1: Cuba has always been on point, and so so we
Speaker 1: get auditioned for a lot of a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of the same roles and so like even for
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood, everyone when he first came in,
Speaker 1: they read for the lead character and then they placed
Speaker 1: me as Ricky. But there was a role Cuba did
Speaker 1: it and Jerry McGuire that he got nominated for. It
Speaker 1: was a football player and it's fun. And I thought,
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I really worked on that script.
Speaker 1: I really worked on it. It was a Tom Cruise movie.
Speaker 1: I really worked on the script. And I went in
Speaker 1: there and I thought, I thought I did a really
Speaker 1: good job in that reading, right, YEA. When I saw
Speaker 1: the movie, I didn't have a chance because it was
Speaker 1: just Cuba just knocked it out the park. You know,
Speaker 1: his choices, his choices, he was just incredible. So you
Speaker 1: know that happens. That's a couple of times actually to
Speaker 1: where you know, I read for something and because sometimes
Speaker 1: you know, that's the one thing that I've learned that
Speaker 1: I try to tell young actors because you know, you
Speaker 1: have these roles to where you figure it's going to
Speaker 1: be like a life changing, game changing role and then
Speaker 1: you don't get it. But the thing about this industry
Speaker 1: is as long as you work hard and you do
Speaker 1: the work, what's for you is for you. You know,
Speaker 1: what's for you is for you, and then nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to take that away. Jerry McGuire wasn't for me,
Speaker 1: you know, that was for Cuba. When I mentioned you
Speaker 1: worked alongside Omar ELPs t dig Jamie Foxx, Terrence Howard,
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, Lawrence Fishburn. Yeah, those guys who brings out
Speaker 1: the best more chestnut on camera. Wow. Wow, that is uh,
Speaker 1: that is a tough one. I would have to say, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a true story. So the one one name
Speaker 1: you didn't mention was Anthony Anderson from Black Anthony. I
Speaker 1: work with Anthony Anderson on the showing that Anthony. It's
Speaker 1: hard working with comedians and Anthony is not a comedian.
Speaker 1: Asks Anthony is a really funny actor, very talented actor
Speaker 1: who can be funny. Kevin can be funny, and they
Speaker 1: kind of go on these riffs. I'll never forget. I
Speaker 1: was doing a movie with Anthony in the studio exactly.
Speaker 1: He came down. He didn't always come to the set,
Speaker 1: but he came down this day and we were doing
Speaker 1: the scene in the movie two Can Play that game,
Speaker 1: and Anthony was doing his thing, you know, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, and I thought I was doing my thing,
Speaker 1: you know, they said cut, They're gonna do my coverage.
Speaker 1: The studio executive pulled me to the side and says,
Speaker 1: you know what, He's killing you in the scene. Anthony
Speaker 1: is killing you in the scene. And I'm like what
Speaker 1: and and right then and there, so I got up
Speaker 1: and it was one of the best scenes in the movie.
Speaker 1: So Anthony brings out a lot, you know what. I
Speaker 1: can say this though, I did work with Robert de Niro. Okay,
Speaker 1: working with Robert de Niro was something that I always
Speaker 1: wanted to do. I wouldn't have done this movie unless
Speaker 1: it was this was with Robert de Niro and and
Speaker 1: that was the one time out of all the people
Speaker 1: I've worked with, the Rock give me more. Uh, John Travolta,
Speaker 1: he was the he was he was the only person
Speaker 1: that I've ever worked with that I'm literally like sitting
Speaker 1: in the scene, I'm like and I'm like, man, that's
Speaker 1: that's Robert DeNiro, you know what. You know, that was
Speaker 1: the only time ever that I've ever been starstruck with DeNiro.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned in reading you, your your career spans
Speaker 1: thirty years, nineties, two thousand teams. Here we are in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. What era does Morris chess Nut says, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the best era in terms of my stuff or
Speaker 1: just terms of just the industry period. Yeah, yo, you
Speaker 1: your stuff? For me, it was it was it was
Speaker 1: the two thousands. Okay, two thousands. That was that was.
Speaker 1: That was a good time because I think The Best
Speaker 1: Man came out in like ninety nine, and then I
Speaker 1: had a had a pretty good run in the two thousands.
Speaker 1: You know, a couple took a couple of chances on
Speaker 1: a few things didn't work, and then actually, you know,
Speaker 1: so then where the two thousands? It was good and
Speaker 1: then we kind of hit DVDs went down. Netflix came up,
Speaker 1: DVDs went down, and they kind of stopped making certain movies,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't get a DVD revenue. But I would say
Speaker 1: two thousands of all the movies, you've done, all of
Speaker 1: them from nineties to here we are today. What's your
Speaker 1: favorite movie? Wow? Now that's a tough one because whenever,
Speaker 1: whenever someone asked me about a movie, I know the
Speaker 1: person's asking me about the movie that they saw, right.
Speaker 1: But when I think about the movies, I think about
Speaker 1: my experience on set, okay, because it's really hard for
Speaker 1: me to watch a movie over and over and over again,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really hard for me to watch anything
Speaker 1: with myself and my voice cringing, worried about the choices
Speaker 1: that I made. So I'm never relaxed. So I always
Speaker 1: related back to the experiences, and I would say I
Speaker 1: would say The Best Man was one of my favorite
Speaker 1: experiences ever. I mean, the movies are all kind of
Speaker 1: like my kids. I love everything about all of them
Speaker 1: because it's a part of me. It's a part of
Speaker 1: my experience in the industry. But The Best Man I
Speaker 1: had the best experience. Do you ever watch a movie
Speaker 1: with yourself in life? I should have done that different.
Speaker 1: I should. There's not there is not that's why I
Speaker 1: can't do it. It's it's really hard. There's not one
Speaker 1: thing that I've ever done that I said, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: maybe let me drop the mic. Not one, not one
Speaker 1: even you know, I cringe when I watch some of
Speaker 1: the stuff now because of the choices that I've made.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, you know, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: it's just I'm just fortunate. It's just a blessing to
Speaker 1: to you know, to uh to haven't been able to
Speaker 1: do this for such a long time. All Right, I'm
Speaker 1: opening some of your movies, and you tell me the
Speaker 1: first thing that comes to your mind. Okay, story, okay,
Speaker 1: hire learning, all right, learning John Singleton omar F's Ice Cube.
Speaker 1: I like that movie because we got to work. We
Speaker 1: actually worked with a track coach, and one of the
Speaker 1: things that I love just about being an actor is
Speaker 1: because we always get to work with technical advisors for
Speaker 1: whatever we're doing, right, And and I got a couple
Speaker 1: of workouts from him at that time, So I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember working with the track coach, the rehearsals The
Speaker 1: Ernest Green Story. Oh wow, wow, are you gonna take
Speaker 1: me back there? Earnest Green Story. Interestingly enough, the Earnest
Speaker 1: Green Story at a great time in Arkansas. But I
Speaker 1: go back. Eric Lanaville, who directed that movie, was at
Speaker 1: the start of my career and I've done some real
Speaker 1: estate stuff. What I remember most about that movie, I'd say,
Speaker 1: it's always about the experience outside of the movie or show.
Speaker 1: Is Eric Lenaville at that time, he said, listen, you
Speaker 1: know you're just starting your career. He says, buy yourself
Speaker 1: a dude plex, living one half of the dude plex,
Speaker 1: ring out the other duke plex. You'll always have a
Speaker 1: place to stay. So I remember his sage real estate
Speaker 1: advice on the show two can play that game. Two
Speaker 1: can play that game. Anthony Emerson and I had had
Speaker 1: had a really good time on that movie, just laughing
Speaker 1: and having fun with Anthony. Anthony. That was my That
Speaker 1: was my first time work with Anthony, and I knew
Speaker 1: right up in the at the very beginning of the
Speaker 1: rehearsals that this man will say anything. You know, there's
Speaker 1: nothing that will embarrass him now we can say about me,
Speaker 1: himself or anybody. So I enjoyed working with it, and
Speaker 1: I love working with viv I mean, at that time,
Speaker 1: Vivica and I had done a television show together prior
Speaker 1: to that movie, and so when we came together there
Speaker 1: she was just she was an incredible actress. Actually think
Speaker 1: like a man. I think like a man that that
Speaker 1: experience was. I just think about Tarage and I had
Speaker 1: worked together prior to that movie, and just playing that
Speaker 1: role opposite her. The one thing that is Taji Henson.
Speaker 1: I mean she is one. She is one of the
Speaker 1: and I know everybody knows this, but the finest actresses
Speaker 1: that I've ever worked with. A matter of fact, when
Speaker 1: she was not easily broken, she played my wife. And
Speaker 1: at the time she I think she had done Baby Boy,
Speaker 1: and I forgot what the other film that she had
Speaker 1: done was. Everybody knew her from and I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I want you to you know, you know, brought him
Speaker 1: in after to play my wife in this movie because
Speaker 1: I knew that she had such a high level. So
Speaker 1: I really I really appreciate even this in that short
Speaker 1: time in that movie of her talent. What about Girls Trip?
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite movies. Do Girl Trip? Girls Trip?
Speaker 1: You know? So, uh, Tiffany had ish she is that's
Speaker 1: her breakout role, that's her breakout roles. I've worked with Tiffany.
Speaker 1: I did a stage play with Tiffany, and in the
Speaker 1: stage play was one of the touring plays that I
Speaker 1: did with her. Her character was she killed it every
Speaker 1: single night. She has some stuff in the bag that
Speaker 1: nobody's seen yet, and when she breaks it out, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be something. Do you feel you've played a role
Speaker 1: that maybe you should have gotten nominated for an Oscar
Speaker 1: or you're waiting for that role? Let me see. I
Speaker 1: can say this. I can say that I've had from
Speaker 1: I can't really say nominated for an Oscar. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I think that I've had some I've played a
Speaker 1: role and I won't say what it is, and I
Speaker 1: want people coming at me. But I think I played
Speaker 1: the role to where I've exhibited a range of a
Speaker 1: range of emotion and I think it should have gotten
Speaker 1: recognized as something. But again it's not really. I've never
Speaker 1: really my goal has never been to get nominated, because
Speaker 1: that's always something that you know as an actor, subjective
Speaker 1: that's out of your control. It's out of my control.
Speaker 1: So my thing is I just want to just keep
Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing, whatever job I get doing, to
Speaker 1: the best of my ability, and keep it moving. Who's
Speaker 1: on your mount Rushmore of black actors, Mount Rushmore, Well,
Speaker 1: one person who is just I mean, he could take
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole, the whole piece. And that's that's Denzel.
Speaker 1: Denzel heads down. And so what people don't realize what
Speaker 1: people don't realize about Denzel's for a for him to
Speaker 1: do what he's done for so long. So it's incredible,
Speaker 1: But what's the most challenging thing as an actor? Most
Speaker 1: actors at his level, they're either get their critical acclaim
Speaker 1: or they get the box office acclaim. Right, Denzel Washington movies,
Speaker 1: they're either making a hundred million dollars or they're getting
Speaker 1: nominated every time they do something. Denzel does both his
Speaker 1: films go past one hundred million dollars all the time,
Speaker 1: and he's always getting nominated. And he's done it for
Speaker 1: thirty plus years. You know, I never forget Denzel. He
Speaker 1: did a movie because my mother was an educator and
Speaker 1: sas Central Los Angeles, and he did a movie of
Speaker 1: the Week, George mckinna's story about her high school and
Speaker 1: I was I was in high school at that time.
Speaker 1: So he's been doing being a leading man for a
Speaker 1: long time. That's why I always kinds of bothered me
Speaker 1: when when people not bothered me, but people always say, oh,
Speaker 1: he's just den Zel, he's just being in Zael. First
Speaker 1: of all, people don't understand, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: People don't understand the challenge of being in front of
Speaker 1: a camera. They think, oh, they can just go in
Speaker 1: front of the camera and beat themselves. They don't because
Speaker 1: they don't see the thirty million crew people around you.
Speaker 1: They don't see the technical aspect of it. And Denzel
Speaker 1: makes great choices. He's always entertaining to watch. So Denzel
Speaker 1: is up. Denzel is that he's it. Yeah, because Denzel
Speaker 1: convinced you that he's actually the person of the character
Speaker 1: that he's playing. His manner rhythms was Malcolm X. His
Speaker 1: manner rhythms was Hurricane. His manner rhythms are such that
Speaker 1: you like, damn, he really that dude. But no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's just pretending to be right, and you set to
Speaker 1: your point to being subjective. I'll never forget. So when
Speaker 1: Training Day came out, yes, man, I was like, Denzel,
Speaker 1: he did it again. I was always back then. I
Speaker 1: would always run home and get online to see what
Speaker 1: people are saying about the movie. Right and I literally
Speaker 1: with training day, I ran home, got online and people
Speaker 1: were trying to knock his performance. And ultimately, obviously, of
Speaker 1: course he went to Academy Wark for But it's just
Speaker 1: like you say, it's just so subject. You can't please,
Speaker 1: You can't please people, right, Yes, speaking of if you
Speaker 1: could give any advice to any up and coming young
Speaker 1: black actors, what would your advice be? My advice something
Speaker 1: that I was out a long time ago. But so
Speaker 1: the thing about acting, and I've been around a long time.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people come. I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of people go. I've seen, you know, people get
Speaker 1: their shot and see people not get their shot. What
Speaker 1: I truly believe in my heart of hearts, and I
Speaker 1: just truly believe this. And I tell them when they
Speaker 1: come up to me there in the gym or wherever,
Speaker 1: I said, are you in an acting class? Because the
Speaker 1: one thing that I've seen is when you're good and
Speaker 1: you and you focus on your craft, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a shot. You are gonna get a shot. It may
Speaker 1: be next week, it maybe next year, it may be
Speaker 1: in the next five years, but you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: get your shot. You look at somebody. You know what,
Speaker 1: I think it's I also think it's talented. It just Elpae.
Speaker 1: He smashed Luthor, but he was around in the Wire.
Speaker 1: You know, he really didn't get his breakout role. He
Speaker 1: did the wire to get his breakout role till later.
Speaker 1: He's a supreme, supreme talented actor. So you know, as
Speaker 1: long as you're good, just keep focusing on your craft
Speaker 1: and keep your eye on the main thing. Speaking of legacy,
Speaker 1: how do you think Chadwick Boseman. We lost a great,
Speaker 1: a great one a couple of months ago. What do
Speaker 1: you think his legacy will be? How do you think
Speaker 1: he will be remembered. I think he will be remembered
Speaker 1: from from Black Panther. I mean he's played a lot
Speaker 1: of legends I personally believe. Talk about nominated. Have you
Speaker 1: seen did you see him in James Brown? I did?
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. How did not get nominated for James Brown?
Speaker 1: You know Jackie Robinson story. He was unbelieving with Jackie
Speaker 1: Robinson story to Jackie Robinson story. So you know, I
Speaker 1: think Black Panther and James Brown for me, those are
Speaker 1: my signature movies for him. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: The sad part about it. Uh, you know, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to say selfishly, but just as an admirer
Speaker 1: of his work, I still think he had a lot
Speaker 1: a lot less, you know, and I would have loved
Speaker 1: to have seen whatever he had up coming. You you
Speaker 1: know what, you play a lot of athletes and you
Speaker 1: I look at boys in the hood, the best man
Speaker 1: the game? What is it? What is it? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you have the physique you can pull it off,
Speaker 1: because Pete, you seem like believe some guys are like man,
Speaker 1: it could be no football player, it could be no athlete,
Speaker 1: but you put off. Do you get do you really
Speaker 1: enjoy playing those roles? I do? I do? I do
Speaker 1: because you know, you know, I want to be an athlete,
Speaker 1: you know when I was coming up, and you know,
Speaker 1: and that's and the thing about also, it's you know,
Speaker 1: you someone get type casting me. That's how people see me.
Speaker 1: You know, that's how the powers that be see me
Speaker 1: as an athlete. And I don't mind that, you know,
Speaker 1: because people always come up to me. You get tired
Speaker 1: of being type cash, You get tired as tired of that.
Speaker 1: You can get tired of people calling you ricky And
Speaker 1: the answer is no, because I don't get tired of
Speaker 1: catching them. Chase, Well, if you go, if you go
Speaker 1: to work, if you go to work every day for
Speaker 1: twenty five years, if you get tied and going to work, no,
Speaker 1: I get I don't get tired of making this money.
Speaker 1: Exactly that. And you know when, I'll never forget when
Speaker 1: I first started out, and I was always man, if
Speaker 1: I could just do something that people would recognize before
Speaker 1: so I can get my next job, if I could
Speaker 1: just do something that people will see. But I've never
Speaker 1: forgotten that. When. So, how long did it take you
Speaker 1: to get I mean, obviously, when you're talking about you
Speaker 1: work out, you hoop, how long does it take you
Speaker 1: to get in shape? Or are they like okay, I'm good,
Speaker 1: you just keep doing what you're doing. Does it really
Speaker 1: take you a four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks to
Speaker 1: get in shape for a movie? It depends on So.
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen your Instagram, I've seen your diet,
Speaker 1: I've seen your oat meals and all that stuff. I've
Speaker 1: been checking you out, you know, And I do that.
Speaker 1: But I have a bad, bad sweet too, right, and
Speaker 1: so so I need I just need to I need
Speaker 1: a heads up before, like the shirtless scenes. I just
Speaker 1: need a heads up before those. Being in La, born
Speaker 1: and raised in LA. Lakers winning the championship, yep, i'sh man,
Speaker 1: Uh you know it's it's uh shoot me. It's been
Speaker 1: a sweet you know, because Kobe wasn't there, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know I literally saw Kobe's two weeks before
Speaker 1: he passed. But I'm glad we're able to do it
Speaker 1: for Kobe. I'm glad we're able to do it again.
Speaker 1: You know. I know you're big Lebron James fan and
Speaker 1: I and of course we have Lebron and and hopefully
Speaker 1: we can get another one. Give me your top five
Speaker 1: Lakers all times since you know the Lakers, You've been
Speaker 1: in La your whole life, so you you go, you
Speaker 1: go way back, way back. Magic, I mean magic has
Speaker 1: to be. I love Kobe, I love Shack, but that
Speaker 1: magic and that magic those showtime days, I mean the
Speaker 1: the energy we had energy with Kobe and Shack and
Speaker 1: even when Kobe with the saw, but it was nothing
Speaker 1: like the showtime energy and what magic was doing a
Speaker 1: magic plan center. And so I have to say my
Speaker 1: top three, top three, five tot five magic uh recently
Speaker 1: biased with with with the Kobe and Shack okay, uh
Speaker 1: Kareem of course okay and uh and Worthy. That's not
Speaker 1: a bad list. I mean anytime you leave off Chamberlain
Speaker 1: U the logo Jarry West, well, listen, I never used
Speaker 1: to I never used to watch basketball until really Magic
Speaker 1: in Showtime got me interested in basketball. I've always loved football.
Speaker 1: So going back to Jerry West and Chamberlain the cat
Speaker 1: that I've never seen play live, because this is the
Speaker 1: thing for me. It's something about seeing somebody playing live. Yes,
Speaker 1: that moment, right, we can go back and look at
Speaker 1: the tapes, but it's not gonna be the same with
Speaker 1: the game on the line down by one. You need
Speaker 1: to get with that emotion there. So that's that's the
Speaker 1: only reason why I left off Chamberlain and a logo.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. So rappers, you you like,
Speaker 1: you like music, give me your top, give me your
Speaker 1: top rappers. So okay, So I'm a little I'm a
Speaker 1: little biased. I think the best lyricists is ice Cu.
Speaker 1: I mean, people gotta go back and and and and
Speaker 1: look at someone listening, look at cue lyrics. It was
Speaker 1: right an Nwa and uh so I like, you know,
Speaker 1: que of course, Pok Biggie uh and and and Jay Uh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of casts out there that
Speaker 1: are doing it though, you know, uh, you know, I'll say,
Speaker 1: I'll say another one that you know, he had one
Speaker 1: album that was my favorite, my favorite, I should said tape.
Speaker 1: My favorite cassette tape was DJ Quick for a long time. Right,
Speaker 1: so DJ Quick was the local War. Are you surprised?
Speaker 1: I mean, actors want to be want to be athletes.
Speaker 1: Athletes want to be rappers. Rappers want to be entertainers.
Speaker 1: What's what's the appeal? What's the crossover appeal? That's interesting?
Speaker 1: I think it's uh, I think part of it. I
Speaker 1: think to do what I do, to do what you've done,
Speaker 1: you know, you need to have that ambition, that ambition
Speaker 1: first and foremost. And when you're ambitious, I think that
Speaker 1: you just look at opportunities, you know, and and if
Speaker 1: you have, if you have something that you feel a secure,
Speaker 1: you're looking for the next opportunity, right, you know, you
Speaker 1: always want what you can't have, you know, So I
Speaker 1: feel it's just just ambitious people who who who want
Speaker 1: to search for more opportunities A thirty I'm wrapping up
Speaker 1: with this one a thirty year movie career, a fifteen
Speaker 1: year NFL NBA career, or a Twitter or or a
Speaker 1: twitty year of music career. If you had, I'm talking
Speaker 1: to a eighteen year old mars chess Nut. Wow. You
Speaker 1: know what's crazy is an eighteen year old more chest nut.
Speaker 1: I would have I would have wanted to be a
Speaker 1: football player over everything, because eighteen I wouldn't think about
Speaker 1: no acting. I wouldn't even I wouldn't want to be
Speaker 1: And that was that. I would have been the shortest
Speaker 1: career career. And then because you said, hold on, I'm
Speaker 1: thirty three, I can get into acting now. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: But at eight team you're not realizing that you're not
Speaker 1: thinking that way. You know what you want and you're
Speaker 1: going after what you want, you know, bro, mo, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate the time, man, thanks for stopping by. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, and we're gonna be watching you. Thank you. Man.
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