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Shan is sharp and the guy that's 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: coming by to I've a drink and talk today really 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: needs no introduction, but I'll introduce him anyway. He's actor, producer, author, 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: thirty years in the movie Game Some people know him 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: Miss Ricky, I know Miss Mo Morris chefs nut all 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: my life, running all my life, sacrifice, hustle back price. 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: One slice got the bron dice to swap all my life. 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, running 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: all my life, sacrifice, hustle back prices. One slice got 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: the bron dice to swap all my life. I've been 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: running in all my life. More? What's going on? Bruh Man? Man? 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: Thirty years See, I got in it when I was two, 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: so I'm thirty two. Right now, I'm getting old. Man, 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting over but you but you're still in the 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: game though I'm doing the game. Man. It's been a blessing. 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: It's definitely been a blessing. So how have you been. 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: What's been going on? What have you been up to 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of months? I know the pas great, 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna run down a whole bunch of stuff. So well, One, 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: I just had a movie. I produced a movie that 38 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: came out on streaming U two weeks ago called Spell. 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: It was with Karl Hardwick and laure De Vine and 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: I was project I'm excited about Right now, I'm I'm 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: in Atlanta during the second season of The Resident. I 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: only came on for for one season, but because of 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: the pandemic, you know, things got a little messed up, 44 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: and so I came back to wrap up the character 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: and so that that's been fun. And I have one 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: of the most the projects that I'm most excited about. 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: I have this, uh this podcast coming out called Jesus 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: Versus Big Joe Okay, and it's about It's about a 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: high school football player who was you know, he was 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: one of the best lineman in the country, recruited by 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Bobby Boden lou Holts. Everything he got caught up, went 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: to went to USC got caught up in some medical stuff, 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: had eighteen surgeries and application. It's a faith based project 54 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: and he it's about how he overcomes all that adversity 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: to find guys. I'm really I'm excited about that one. 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: Up back to what you're working on. The movie that 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: you produced us call Spell Start hard Headwick and had 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: Loretta Divine. Yeah, what what made you go on this genre? 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: So what happened was so the producer I'd worked with 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: the producer Gordon Gray before on another project, and he 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: asked me. He called me into the office. Hey, hey, 62 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: can you read the script? And he wanted me to 63 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: do this movie. So when I read this script, the 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: script that he had, it kind of really wasn't what 65 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, Okay, So and so I called 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: my manager and say, listen, you know I'm not you know, 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. He says, well, let's talk to 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Borton about this. So we pitched him another concept of 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: a movie and it was this one. It was it 70 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: was spell. So we we pitched him the concept. He 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: was into it. We found the writers wrote the script. 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: The writers wrote the script and Kurt Wimer, who's who's 73 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: a great writer. I had some you know, I had 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: some uh you know, everything in the movie wasn't as 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be. But that's that's movie made. 76 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: So so you went from possibly starring in the movie 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: to help writing and co producing the movie. Right. So 78 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: it was so when the producer gave me the script, 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: it was something completely different and it's not it wasn't 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: something that I wanted to do. So my writer, my 81 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: manager was like my Brian, Brian, my manager, Brian Wilcomes, 82 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: He was like, listen, let's pitch them, you know, this 83 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: concept and that hint that Brian and I had already 84 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: previously discussed. So you had already been working on this. Yeah. 85 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: So my manager and I we talk about concepts all 86 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: the time. Okay, okay, show for movies, for the podcasts. 87 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: That fact, you're gonna be in a call for me 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: soon because I have a concept for a sitcom with 89 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: you in mind. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. You 90 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: know what, I always didn't want to do a thick calm. 91 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I always wanted to be be on TV full time 92 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: and have a thick calm. Ay man, Hey, don't just 93 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: talk about it. I'm telling you. I mean you're sitting 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: now on the camera on Club Sha Shay. You'll get 95 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: that call from the network hey saying your available, so 96 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: the hey watch out now. Oh I'll definitely be I'll 97 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: definitely be available. I'll make myself available. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: So I talked to you about that because I have 99 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: a couple of concepts in one and I talked to 100 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: you about it. But yeah, so my manager and I, 101 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: so my manager was, you know, we were talking about 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: this concept and we pitched it to Gordon. Gordon liked it, 103 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 1: so that's when we got it was nothing. It was nothing, 104 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: just concept between my manager and I and we got 105 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: the writer and Kurt Wimmer, who was an incredible writer. 106 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean he got there. We met with a few writers. 107 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Kurt came in. He immediately got the story and he 108 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: turned the script around really quick and h and when 109 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: its production. In matter of fact, when I was on 110 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: this show when it started going in production, but initially 111 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: I was attending to starting. So let me ask you, 112 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: so it's because I noticed a lot of people are 113 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: doing streaming, A lot of people are doing like Netflix, 114 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: not the big not the other big budget If that 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: because the COVID, if you've had to find a different 116 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: way to still do your craft, it's I can't say 117 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: it's just because of COVID. Okay, you know, even the 118 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: movies that are released now is normally if they're like 119 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: the big Marvel blockbusters, you know, it's very rare that 120 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: the that the that the that the low budget independent 121 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: can find an audience. And so the great thing about streaming, 122 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: you know with the Netflix and Amazons is you know, 123 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: you get global exposure and you get a platform, so 124 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, whatever you produce, you know, it gives people 125 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to see what you do right back in the day. 126 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: I know people who've made independent movies for fifty sixty 127 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: million dollars and they're sitting on a shelf somewhere and 128 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: nobody saw this would before streaming, even streaming even you know, 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, took over the game, right, So do you 130 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: think the streaming is like, how do I say? This? 131 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: Is this what we're going to see more and more 132 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 1: up until we come out of this pandemic. I think 133 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: until we come out of the pandemic. Yes. However, you know, 134 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: I say, I have a couple of other movies that 135 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm actively producing, and I really want them to go 136 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: to the theater because to me, there's nothing like you know, 137 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: I have a comedy experience, experience experience. You know, everybody's 138 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: there sharing the same thing, and after the feeling, there's 139 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: nothing like that experience. So I can't wait. I can't 140 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: wait for it to come back. The smell of the popcorn, 141 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: you know that, the people talking in the background. You know, 142 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: it's like for me, I mean, I'm a movie guy, 143 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: but I just find myself if I'm watching a movie 144 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: at home, I'm like, I wonder to whet us as 145 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: own television where if I'm at the movie, I can't 146 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: I can't just flip back. I can't just get up, 147 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stay very It's a very captive audience. 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: That's why, you know, for a long time, you know, 149 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: when you have when you have people as quote unquote 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: movie stars, because you go into this, you go into this, this, 151 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: this theater is blacked out, and you're just so captivated 152 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: on that screen for you know, twenty half hours. That's 153 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: why it's you know, as an artist sometimes you know, 154 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: we're very responsible about, you know, the messages that we 155 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: send because people are really absorbing disorbing those messages. So 156 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: you're also doing the Residents. You say you were only 157 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: gonna do one season, but you came back because of 158 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: the pandemic. You came back fulfilling the obligation. So are 159 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: you done after this season? Are you gonna have a 160 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: reoccurring role? Well, so, you know, things are always fluid. 161 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you never know what's happened. I love listen. 162 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: I love the cast, I love the producers. I love 163 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: the environment. You know here telling people about your character, 164 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: telling people your neurosurgeon. Yes, I played a neurosurgeon. And 165 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: what attracted me to this character. I played a neurosurgeon 166 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: that's based off of a real life person. I say 167 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: a couple of people, please don't say it's Big Carson. No, no, no, no, 168 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: not being Carson. But I wasn't gonna say something. I'm 169 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: gonna say no. So it's based off the character. And 170 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: so the one thing I really wanted to one of 171 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: the reasons why I really wanted to play this character 172 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: because it's completely different than anything I've played before, and 173 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: this character, out of probably everything that I've done, the 174 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: response when I'm in public is most passionate about this character, 175 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: really in a negative way. Oh yeah, because I play 176 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: I play a doctor, right, is a nerro surgeon who 177 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: is basically he's more concerned about the bottom line of 178 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: the hospital instead of the patient. Right, come in and 179 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: I see that you you don't need this invasive surgery. 180 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Invasive surgery, but it's good for the bottom line of 181 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: the hospital. I'm gonna recommend that you get there. Well, 182 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: you found like a real doctor to me, Well, I mean, 183 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: what's the problem. No, no, no, they're just supposed to 184 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: be well being in the patient. Yeah, So, but I 185 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: remember you on the fire you did a Fox show 186 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: called Rosewood, Yeah, where you were a forensic guy, right right, right, right, right, 187 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: So you you like playing these doctors roles? Well, you 188 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: know one thing I love one thing I do love 189 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: about playing doctors because it does they do. They convey 190 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: us certain amount of intelligence. You know, they make me 191 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: sound smarter than I am with all that dialogue. I 192 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: have to rehearse that dialogue all night, but I get 193 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: it down. Yeah. But yeah, So the one thing about Rosewood, 194 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: the one thing that really drew me to this character, 195 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: because the Rosewood character was extremely optimistic about every single situation, right, 196 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: this character is not so much. So it's playing a 197 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: doctor in a different light when you played when you 198 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: played Rosewood, did you meet with any forensic guys to 199 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: understand what they do, how they do it, how they 200 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: go about their business. Did you meet with anybody to 201 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: learn how to better play that role. Yes, Yeah, we 202 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: had a technical advisor on set all the time and 203 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: asking you know, I was always asking him a ton 204 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: of questions about it. It's a very it's a very 205 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: interesting job. But one of my I mean my favorite shows. 206 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm not watching sports, I'm either watching 207 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: for forensic Files with the dateline. Yeah, you know, so 208 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: those so Rosewood was right up my alley in that sense, 209 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: it was a humor. There was a lot of humored 210 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: to it. But Rosewood was right up in my alley. 211 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: And being able to talk to that for forensics professional, 212 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: it was very Uh it's a very I definitely couldn't 213 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: do it in real life. I'll say that you're basically 214 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: a black Quincy. I don't know if you are you 215 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: all enough to remember Quincy? Oh, come on, man, I 216 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: definitely remember Quincy. Yeah. You mentioned your faith your faith 217 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: based podcast Jesus and Big Joe, and it's based loosely 218 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: on our USC formerly USC football player. What made you decide? 219 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: What made you decide to go this route? So? Okay, 220 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: So I'm always always looking for something because I did 221 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: a movie with TD Jake's called Broken about a number 222 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: of years ago, and that was one of the projects. 223 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: It was basically a project about this married couple who 224 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: his wife got to an accident and their relationship, their 225 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: marriage was being tested financially, emotionally, sexually, and she had 226 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: one of her you know, her mother was in the 227 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: house with us. So it was about you know, their 228 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: marriage bows being tested, not easily broken. And it is 229 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: one of the projects that I said, people come up 230 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: to me for various projects. That project. People really come 231 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: up you know, brothers come up to me all the time. Man, 232 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: you know what. I was going through some situation just 233 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: like that, and I saw that movie and my wife 234 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: and I watched that movie and we kept the faith. 235 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: We kept the faith. So I always knew I wanted 236 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: to get back to doing something faith based. I recently 237 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: before everything came out. Now it's about two years ago. 238 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: I saw I heard the podcast Gladiator. I don't know 239 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: if you Aaron Hernandez podcast. Yeah, okay, yeah, yes, And 240 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know all the information. So I'm listening to 241 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: this podcast and I'm here in the store. I said, man, 242 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that podcast. Okay. So I met this 243 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: this young passionate, very very talented producer named Kyle Hogan, 244 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: and he we sat down at lunch and he told 245 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: me the story or a Big Joe, and that's why 246 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: that the project is Jesus Versus Big Joe. And it 247 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: was something that it was a space that I always 248 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: wanted to get back into. And when I heard the 249 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: passion of Kyle, I met Big Joe, and I said, 250 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: this is it. This is the one I want to do. 251 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of USC football players, you play a role in 252 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: the Hood classic. Now it's a Mount Rushmore in the Hood. 253 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: But Friday maybe how Party I don't know. I don't 254 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: know the other guy, but I know those three is 255 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: gonna be on everybody. Rushmore. When I mentioned Boys in 256 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: the Hood and Ricky your first feature role, what what 257 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: goes through your mind? Oh? Man, you know, uh, it's 258 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: uh first honestly now, Uh you know John Singleton is 259 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, rest his soul. I mean, he gave me 260 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: an opportunity. Uh so, it's it's it's it's sad in 261 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: that regard. But I always go back to, uh, you know, 262 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: just when I was just starting out. I was just 263 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: starting out, and I just wanted to be involved in 264 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: a project that people would see and people would see 265 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: me and recognize me for and he gave me an opportunity. 266 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: And you know, the one thing I just love, you 267 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: know about being involved in that project. I mean, you 268 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: know to this day, Nia Fishburn, Regina Cuba, you know, 269 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: everybody is still Angela, Everybody's still going. And it was 270 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: a special special project. Obviously it's my first, my first 271 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: big screen, first real movie actually, and it's it's something 272 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna hold. Dear. How did you lay in 273 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: the role? Yeah, so I just got an agent, and 274 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: actually it was it was a little bit of I 275 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: got a little bit lucky for the role, of course, 276 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: but here's where the luck is. So I when I 277 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: was coming up as an actress, I started after I 278 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: graduated from high school, I started acting and I was 279 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: taking acting classes at this junior college in Long Beas, 280 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: Longby City Junior College, and I said, okay, So I 281 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: was getting some pretty good feedback. So I said, you 282 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: know what, I want to go to Hollywood and take 283 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: an acting class there and see what people think. Now, 284 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: at that time, Marla Gibbs, who was on The Jeffersons 285 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: two two seven seven, she had an acting studio right 286 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: in Lamert Park. It was right right in the hood. 287 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: And so I said, I but her acting studio the 288 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: people from the Jeffersons and two to seven they would 289 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: come teaching a class. So I said, I want to 290 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: get in front of the people who actually do it exactly. 291 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: And so I went there and so cut to my 292 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: agent gave me the information to go to this audition 293 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: for this movie Boys in the Hood. I get excited. 294 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: I go meet the cash director Jackie Brown, get the 295 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: callback's John Singleton's in the call back. So I'm like, 296 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: oh man, this cat he's my age and I got 297 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: this jong Katt. So that was a little bit easier then. 298 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: But then after the second meeting when I met John, 299 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: my agent calls me like, listen, you have a screen test. 300 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, so, back then, Hollywood screen tests. 301 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: You go down to the studio. They have all the 302 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: cameras and all the crew and everything just for a 303 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: screen tests. I'm like, man, it's my first big Hollywood 304 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: screen tests. So I'm getting all excited. I had a 305 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: pager back then. I was exciting and something. And so 306 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, okay, so where is it. I'm 307 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: thinking he's gonna stay Columbia, Warner Brothers, someone like that. 308 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: He says it's at Crossroads Academy, LAMURK Park. I'm like, 309 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: Lamur Park Tests Acting School. That's that's that's what the 310 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: screen test is. And he's like, yes, where it is. 311 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: And so you know, John wanted to keep everything in 312 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: South Central but where that played into my favors because 313 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: when I had to go for the screen test, I 314 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: was already in a comfortable environment. I had already school, 315 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: I was already comfortable there, and so that played into 316 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: me getting the park. Did you know it would turn 317 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: out to be what it is? And here we are 318 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: thirty years later and people are still talking about that movie. 319 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's one of the first thing when people 320 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: meet you. That's one of the first things they talk about. Man, 321 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: I remember you in the Boy in the Hood? Boy 322 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: you were great? Yeah, you know what, it's two things. 323 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: So it's one of the movies that people from I 324 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: hit people literally from around the world say they learned 325 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: English from watching Boys in Hood one movie and they 326 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: see that. But at the time I didn't. I was 327 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: literally on set. I'll never forget. I was absorbing everything 328 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: at the time. You know, que had an album, you know, Fishburn. 329 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: He wasn't fish at the time. You know, he had 330 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: worked and Cuba had been in a few holding deals 331 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: or some studios, but he hadn't been on the show 332 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: that last long. So I'm like, so I'm looking around, like, okay, 333 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's a movie. I'm a lead in the movie. 334 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: Nobody knows me. I didn't think the movie is gonna 335 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: do anything. You know, I thought it would be you know, 336 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: I thought we were making a good movie, but there's 337 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: no way I thought there was gonna be to the 338 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: magnitude that it turned out to be. You mentioned the 339 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: names Cuba Gooding, Junior, Ice Cube, Lawrence fish Burn, Neil Long, 340 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: Regina King, and the Baskette, and as you mentioned earlier, 341 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: the majority of these are still going strong. Regina. I 342 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: think Regina is have a show on HBO, the movie 343 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: she directed a movie, Yes, won an Oscar an Oscar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 344 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: we have three. So, uh, Cuba was nominated, Fishburn was nominated. 345 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: I think Angelo one, and Regina one. Right, so you 346 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: got hey, so what's up? I mean, what what's up? 347 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Rob me? Yeah? It was one of those things, you 348 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: know exactly it was. It was one of those things 349 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: that I was I didn't go to a point where 350 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I gotta I gotta get I 351 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: gotta get right when that movie came. When we did 352 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: that movie, I was crazy green. You know, I was 353 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: someone that was just happy to be on set and 354 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, walking around and being around all these experienced actors, 355 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: and it's one of those things. Man, Yeah, they all 356 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: got nominated. I've never gone for that. I would love 357 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity for a role like that, so 358 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: nominated it. But I'm just to be honest, I'm just 359 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: happy to still be here and still be kicking you know, 360 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: are you? I mean you think about your first role 361 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: and it's a movie like that. Obviously at the time, 362 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: you don't know it's going to be a movie like that, right, 363 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel now to know that, Man, 364 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: I did that. I haven't I can say I haven't 365 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: really reflected on it that way, Okay, you know, I 366 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: just when when people, like when you asked me about 367 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: the movie, there's things that I think about, like I'll 368 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: never forget when I'm thinking about how green I was 369 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: because I never had a mentor anybody in this industry. 370 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you know, talking about an 371 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: Oscar I literally after I did Boys in the Hood, 372 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: it was one of the biggest movies you know out. 373 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: I literally went from that to a sitcom and back 374 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: then you didn't do that. Back then, it was either 375 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: you were either in movies on television show. But that's 376 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: how much guidance I didn't have. I wish I had somebody, 377 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: But I think back, there's a this is how green 378 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: I was. My agent called me the movie was performing well, 379 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean the movie was finished, and he said, hey, 380 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: your movie's gonna go to the Calm Film Festival. I 381 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: was like con I said, well, how come they're not 382 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: gonna release it here? You know, that's just how green 383 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: I was at the time, you know, and not knowing 384 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: that that was you know, it was a it was 385 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: a great response over there, and that was a catapult 386 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: globally for the film. You mentioned that back then, you 387 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: know you wouldn't you know, you did the movie and 388 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: then you did a sitcom. Do you regret doing the sitcom? 389 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: Or would do you wish you had just stuck with movies? Why? Why? 390 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Why did you bring that up? Because it was it 391 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: was a when I looked back, like I said, I've 392 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: never really had a mentor in the industry, like I 393 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: had an agent at that time to an agent at 394 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: that time who just wanted me just to do another job. Right. 395 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: So when I talk about that, obviously, if I had 396 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: to go back and do things all over again, there's 397 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: a lot of things I would do differently. But I 398 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: always like to bring that up because a lot of 399 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: times people come up to me, especially in LA I'm 400 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 1: at the gym working out of playing ball. Hey, man, 401 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: you know I want to get put on what I 402 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: have to do. I was like, all right, man. So 403 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: I always say like, you know, at that time, I 404 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: wish I would have been I never really I was 405 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: in acting classes, but I wasn't really acting. I was 406 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: just kind of just going for the money. So I 407 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: wish I would have studied more. And then when my 408 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: agent pushed me towards that. So I have the experience 409 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: in the industry to where when people come up to me, 410 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: I can give them some pretty good guidance because I've 411 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: been around for a minute, right, so you could give 412 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: them sound advice that you didn't get when you were 413 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: coming up without a doubt and without a doubt. And 414 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: I always like to go back to those things to tell, hey, 415 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: this is what I went through. But you know, most 416 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: of the time it falls on deaf ears because a 417 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: lot of people come to LA they kind of just 418 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: they want to get discovered on the street corner or 419 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: they want to you know, they want to just go 420 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: to the party and you know, get discovered at a party, 421 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: and it doesn't work like that. That's only in the 422 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: movies that they're not gonna be in exactly. So let 423 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: me ask you this. If I were to say, okay, mo, 424 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: give me your your top five good classic movies of 425 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: all time, whether you've been in them or not, your 426 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: top five top five Okay, all right, so I'm a 427 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: little biased with Boys in the Hood, but I'll go 428 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: back to I don't know, you may be too young, 429 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: too young for this, but COOLi High, I remember COOLi High. 430 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: Julia I was a classic. Okay, you know what I 431 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: have to say. One of my favorites, uh was Dead Presidents, 432 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, yes, yeah, they put it down with Dead President, 433 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: U Man Love New Jack Love, New Jack City. Right, 434 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: and then of course you know Friday was is always 435 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: gonna be up there. Yes, so I would have to 436 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: is that four or five? How many? Is that? That's fine? 437 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: That's fine, okay, Yeah, that's fine. It's hard. It's hard 438 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: because you leave, you leave house party out. Yeah, I 439 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: go back, I go back to pelitentiary. All right, Right, 440 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: that's right, right, right, it is hard. You know what 441 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: I think. I think the thing is that I think 442 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: it's the thing that that most affects people like like 443 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: when I look back, you know, and and and coolly high. 444 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: I really felt the motion, just as watching that movie 445 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, House Party, I mean, Friday was funny. I 446 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: love House Party too, you know dance, but you know, 447 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: I really I really enjoyed thinking back Dead President Lorenz 448 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: takes a friend of my performance and Alan and the 449 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: Hughes brothers, I mean, they put together a really good piece. 450 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: And Chris Tucker in that movie was you know, he 451 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: had a dramatic side to that movie. There are a lot, 452 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: a lot of nice elements of that movie, dou if 453 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: there do you do you wish there was a movie 454 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: that there could have been a sequel to that you 455 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: did in your career? Uh, let me see, I would say, 456 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: you know, I do, even though I wouldn't have been 457 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: in it. I wish it would been a sequel to 458 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood Everybody, or a prequel. Let's do 459 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: a prequel. Yeah, I think I think Boys. I wish 460 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Boys we could have done. We could have done a sequel. 461 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: We did a sequel to the Best Man, which was cool, 462 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: and yeah, we may be doing something there again, so 463 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: that franchise, but yeah, that would be it. What what 464 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: do you remember about your first audition, my first audition 465 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: since Okay, so that's a tough one. So what happened 466 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: when I was starting out, Uh, this thing called the 467 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: Drama Logue. It would come out every every Thursday. You 468 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: get in there, you find out you know who's you 469 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: know who's looking for you submit your picture, so I 470 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: would say, in my picture out. So I had auditions 471 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: for student films. I had auditions for films that never 472 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: even made it. As a matter of fact, you mentioned Penitentiary. 473 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: One of the films that I one of my first 474 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: big auditions was for Penitentiary. And one of the other 475 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: first big auditions it was an open call for two 476 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: two seven, Okay, not penitiary. It was it was it 477 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: wasn't a penitentiary. It was I think it was penitentiary. 478 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: Two got the I forgot the director. I think it 479 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: was the same director. So that's so, is there a 480 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: role that you turned down that you that you wish 481 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: you hadn't or there's a role that, man man, I 482 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: wish I'd got an opportunity to play that. Oh, yeah, 483 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: there's there's always those. But there was I can I 484 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: can say this. There was a role that there was 485 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: a role that I had an audition for, and I'll 486 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: tell you what it was in a minute. But at 487 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: the time, after Boys in the Hood came out, obviously, 488 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: you know, Q, when I we had some attention, I 489 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: was very green. I had a long way to go 490 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: in my development as an actor. Cuba was already there. 491 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: Cuba has always been on point, and so so we 492 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: get auditioned for a lot of a lot of a 493 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: lot of the same roles and so like even for 494 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood, everyone when he first came in, 495 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: they read for the lead character and then they placed 496 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: me as Ricky. But there was a role Cuba did 497 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: it and Jerry McGuire that he got nominated for. It 498 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: was a football player and it's fun. And I thought, 499 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I really worked on that script. 500 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: I really worked on it. It was a Tom Cruise movie. 501 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: I really worked on the script. And I went in 502 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: there and I thought, I thought I did a really 503 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: good job in that reading, right, YEA. When I saw 504 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: the movie, I didn't have a chance because it was 505 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: just Cuba just knocked it out the park. You know, 506 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: his choices, his choices, he was just incredible. So you 507 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: know that happens. That's a couple of times actually to 508 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: where you know, I read for something and because sometimes 509 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's the one thing that I've learned that 510 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: I try to tell young actors because you know, you 511 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: have these roles to where you figure it's going to 512 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: be like a life changing, game changing role and then 513 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: you don't get it. But the thing about this industry 514 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: is as long as you work hard and you do 515 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: the work, what's for you is for you. You know, 516 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: what's for you is for you, and then nobody's gonna 517 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: be able to take that away. Jerry McGuire wasn't for me, 518 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, that was for Cuba. When I mentioned you 519 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: worked alongside Omar ELPs t dig Jamie Foxx, Terrence Howard, 520 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, Lawrence Fishburn. Yeah, those guys who brings out 521 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: the best more chestnut on camera. Wow. Wow, that is uh, 522 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: that is a tough one. I would have to say, Uh, 523 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: this is a true story. So the one one name 524 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: you didn't mention was Anthony Anderson from Black Anthony. I 525 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: work with Anthony Anderson on the showing that Anthony. It's 526 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: hard working with comedians and Anthony is not a comedian. 527 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: Asks Anthony is a really funny actor, very talented actor 528 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: who can be funny. Kevin can be funny, and they 529 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: kind of go on these riffs. I'll never forget. I 530 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: was doing a movie with Anthony in the studio exactly. 531 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: He came down. He didn't always come to the set, 532 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: but he came down this day and we were doing 533 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: the scene in the movie two Can Play that game, 534 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: and Anthony was doing his thing, you know, and I'm like, okay, 535 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: all right, cool, and I thought I was doing my thing, 536 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, they said cut, They're gonna do my coverage. 537 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: The studio executive pulled me to the side and says, 538 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: you know what, He's killing you in the scene. Anthony 539 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: is killing you in the scene. And I'm like what 540 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: and and right then and there, so I got up 541 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: and it was one of the best scenes in the movie. 542 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: So Anthony brings out a lot, you know what. I 543 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: can say this though, I did work with Robert de Niro. Okay, 544 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: working with Robert de Niro was something that I always 545 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: wanted to do. I wouldn't have done this movie unless 546 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: it was this was with Robert de Niro and and 547 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: that was the one time out of all the people 548 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: I've worked with, the Rock give me more. Uh, John Travolta, 549 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: he was the he was he was the only person 550 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: that I've ever worked with that I'm literally like sitting 551 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: in the scene, I'm like and I'm like, man, that's 552 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: that's Robert DeNiro, you know what. You know, that was 553 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: the only time ever that I've ever been starstruck with DeNiro. 554 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: As I mentioned in reading you, your your career spans 555 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: thirty years, nineties, two thousand teams. Here we are in 556 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. What era does Morris chess Nut says, Okay, 557 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: that's the best era in terms of my stuff or 558 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: just terms of just the industry period. Yeah, yo, you 559 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: your stuff? For me, it was it was it was 560 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: the two thousands. Okay, two thousands. That was that was. 561 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: That was a good time because I think The Best 562 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: Man came out in like ninety nine, and then I 563 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: had a had a pretty good run in the two thousands. 564 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, a couple took a couple of chances on 565 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: a few things didn't work, and then actually, you know, 566 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: so then where the two thousands? It was good and 567 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: then we kind of hit DVDs went down. Netflix came up, 568 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: DVDs went down, and they kind of stopped making certain movies, 569 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: they wouldn't get a DVD revenue. But I would say 570 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: two thousands of all the movies, you've done, all of 571 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: them from nineties to here we are today. What's your 572 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: favorite movie? Wow? Now that's a tough one because whenever, 573 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: whenever someone asked me about a movie, I know the 574 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: person's asking me about the movie that they saw, right. 575 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: But when I think about the movies, I think about 576 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: my experience on set, okay, because it's really hard for 577 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: me to watch a movie over and over and over again, 578 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: and it's it's really hard for me to watch anything 579 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: with myself and my voice cringing, worried about the choices 580 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: that I made. So I'm never relaxed. So I always 581 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: related back to the experiences, and I would say I 582 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: would say The Best Man was one of my favorite 583 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: experiences ever. I mean, the movies are all kind of 584 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: like my kids. I love everything about all of them 585 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: because it's a part of me. It's a part of 586 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: my experience in the industry. But The Best Man I 587 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: had the best experience. Do you ever watch a movie 588 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: with yourself in life? I should have done that different. 589 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: I should. There's not there is not that's why I 590 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: can't do it. It's it's really hard. There's not one 591 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: thing that I've ever done that I said, okay, cool, 592 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: maybe let me drop the mic. Not one, not one 593 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: even you know, I cringe when I watch some of 594 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: the stuff now because of the choices that I've made. 595 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: But but yeah, you know, you know, like I said, 596 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: it's just I'm just fortunate. It's just a blessing to 597 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: to you know, to uh to haven't been able to 598 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: do this for such a long time. All Right, I'm 599 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: opening some of your movies, and you tell me the 600 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: first thing that comes to your mind. Okay, story, okay, 601 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: hire learning, all right, learning John Singleton omar F's Ice Cube. 602 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: I like that movie because we got to work. We 603 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: actually worked with a track coach, and one of the 604 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: things that I love just about being an actor is 605 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: because we always get to work with technical advisors for 606 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: whatever we're doing, right, And and I got a couple 607 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: of workouts from him at that time, So I remember, 608 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: I remember working with the track coach, the rehearsals The 609 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: Ernest Green Story. Oh wow, wow, are you gonna take 610 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: me back there? Earnest Green Story. Interestingly enough, the Earnest 611 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: Green Story at a great time in Arkansas. But I 612 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: go back. Eric Lanaville, who directed that movie, was at 613 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: the start of my career and I've done some real 614 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: estate stuff. What I remember most about that movie, I'd say, 615 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: it's always about the experience outside of the movie or show. 616 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: Is Eric Lenaville at that time, he said, listen, you 617 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: know you're just starting your career. He says, buy yourself 618 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: a dude plex, living one half of the dude plex, 619 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: ring out the other duke plex. You'll always have a 620 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: place to stay. So I remember his sage real estate 621 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: advice on the show two can play that game. Two 622 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: can play that game. Anthony Emerson and I had had 623 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: had a really good time on that movie, just laughing 624 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: and having fun with Anthony. Anthony. That was my That 625 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: was my first time work with Anthony, and I knew 626 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: right up in the at the very beginning of the 627 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: rehearsals that this man will say anything. You know, there's 628 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: nothing that will embarrass him now we can say about me, 629 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: himself or anybody. So I enjoyed working with it, and 630 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: I love working with viv I mean, at that time, 631 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Vivica and I had done a television show together prior 632 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: to that movie, and so when we came together there 633 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: she was just she was an incredible actress. Actually think 634 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: like a man. I think like a man that that 635 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: experience was. I just think about Tarage and I had 636 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: worked together prior to that movie, and just playing that 637 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: role opposite her. The one thing that is Taji Henson. 638 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean she is one. She is one of the 639 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: and I know everybody knows this, but the finest actresses 640 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 1: that I've ever worked with. A matter of fact, when 641 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: she was not easily broken, she played my wife. And 642 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 1: at the time she I think she had done Baby Boy, 643 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: and I forgot what the other film that she had 644 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: done was. Everybody knew her from and I said, listen, 645 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: I want you to you know, you know, brought him 646 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: in after to play my wife in this movie because 647 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: I knew that she had such a high level. So 648 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: I really I really appreciate even this in that short 649 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: time in that movie of her talent. What about Girls Trip? 650 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite movies. Do Girl Trip? Girls Trip? 651 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: You know? So, uh, Tiffany had ish she is that's 652 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: her breakout role, that's her breakout roles. I've worked with Tiffany. 653 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: I did a stage play with Tiffany, and in the 654 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: stage play was one of the touring plays that I 655 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: did with her. Her character was she killed it every 656 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: single night. She has some stuff in the bag that 657 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: nobody's seen yet, and when she breaks it out, it's 658 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: gonna be something. Do you feel you've played a role 659 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: that maybe you should have gotten nominated for an Oscar 660 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: or you're waiting for that role? Let me see. I 661 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: can say this. I can say that I've had from 662 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: I can't really say nominated for an Oscar. I mean, 663 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: I I think that I've had some I've played a 664 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: role and I won't say what it is, and I 665 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: want people coming at me. But I think I played 666 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: the role to where I've exhibited a range of a 667 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: range of emotion and I think it should have gotten 668 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: recognized as something. But again it's not really. I've never 669 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: really my goal has never been to get nominated, because 670 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: that's always something that you know as an actor, subjective 671 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: that's out of your control. It's out of my control. 672 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: So my thing is I just want to just keep 673 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing, whatever job I get doing, to 674 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: the best of my ability, and keep it moving. Who's 675 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: on your mount Rushmore of black actors, Mount Rushmore, Well, 676 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: one person who is just I mean, he could take 677 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: the whole, the whole, the whole piece. And that's that's Denzel. 678 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: Denzel heads down. And so what people don't realize what 679 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: people don't realize about Denzel's for a for him to 680 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: do what he's done for so long. So it's incredible, 681 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: But what's the most challenging thing as an actor? Most 682 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: actors at his level, they're either get their critical acclaim 683 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: or they get the box office acclaim. Right, Denzel Washington movies, 684 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: they're either making a hundred million dollars or they're getting 685 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: nominated every time they do something. Denzel does both his 686 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: films go past one hundred million dollars all the time, 687 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: and he's always getting nominated. And he's done it for 688 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: thirty plus years. You know, I never forget Denzel. He 689 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: did a movie because my mother was an educator and 690 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: sas Central Los Angeles, and he did a movie of 691 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: the Week, George mckinna's story about her high school and 692 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: I was I was in high school at that time. 693 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: So he's been doing being a leading man for a 694 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: long time. That's why I always kinds of bothered me 695 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: when when people not bothered me, but people always say, oh, 696 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: he's just den Zel, he's just being in Zael. First 697 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: of all, people don't understand, you know what I'm saying. 698 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: People don't understand the challenge of being in front of 699 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: a camera. They think, oh, they can just go in 700 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: front of the camera and beat themselves. They don't because 701 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: they don't see the thirty million crew people around you. 702 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: They don't see the technical aspect of it. And Denzel 703 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: makes great choices. He's always entertaining to watch. So Denzel 704 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: is up. Denzel is that he's it. Yeah, because Denzel 705 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: convinced you that he's actually the person of the character 706 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: that he's playing. His manner rhythms was Malcolm X. His 707 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: manner rhythms was Hurricane. His manner rhythms are such that 708 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: you like, damn, he really that dude. But no, no, no, 709 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: he's just pretending to be right, and you set to 710 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: your point to being subjective. I'll never forget. So when 711 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: Training Day came out, yes, man, I was like, Denzel, 712 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 1: he did it again. I was always back then. I 713 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: would always run home and get online to see what 714 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: people are saying about the movie. Right and I literally 715 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: with training day, I ran home, got online and people 716 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: were trying to knock his performance. And ultimately, obviously, of 717 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: course he went to Academy Wark for But it's just 718 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: like you say, it's just so subject. You can't please, 719 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: You can't please people, right, Yes, speaking of if you 720 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: could give any advice to any up and coming young 721 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: black actors, what would your advice be? My advice something 722 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: that I was out a long time ago. But so 723 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: the thing about acting, and I've been around a long time. 724 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people come. I've seen a 725 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: lot of people go. I've seen, you know, people get 726 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: their shot and see people not get their shot. What 727 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: I truly believe in my heart of hearts, and I 728 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: just truly believe this. And I tell them when they 729 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,479 Speaker 1: come up to me there in the gym or wherever, 730 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: I said, are you in an acting class? Because the 731 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: one thing that I've seen is when you're good and 732 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: you and you focus on your craft, you're gonna get 733 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: a shot. You are gonna get a shot. It may 734 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: be next week, it maybe next year, it may be 735 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: in the next five years, but you're gonna you're gonna 736 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: get your shot. You look at somebody. You know what, 737 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: I think it's I also think it's talented. It just Elpae. 738 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: He smashed Luthor, but he was around in the Wire. 739 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, he really didn't get his breakout role. He 740 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: did the wire to get his breakout role till later. 741 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: He's a supreme, supreme talented actor. So you know, as 742 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: long as you're good, just keep focusing on your craft 743 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: and keep your eye on the main thing. Speaking of legacy, 744 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: how do you think Chadwick Boseman. We lost a great, 745 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: a great one a couple of months ago. What do 746 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: you think his legacy will be? How do you think 747 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: he will be remembered. I think he will be remembered 748 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: from from Black Panther. I mean he's played a lot 749 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: of legends I personally believe. Talk about nominated. Have you 750 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: seen did you see him in James Brown? I did? 751 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. How did not get nominated for James Brown? 752 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: You know Jackie Robinson story. He was unbelieving with Jackie 753 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: Robinson story to Jackie Robinson story. So you know, I 754 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: think Black Panther and James Brown for me, those are 755 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: my signature movies for him. To be honest with you, 756 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: The sad part about it. Uh, you know, and I 757 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: don't want to say selfishly, but just as an admirer 758 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: of his work, I still think he had a lot 759 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: a lot less, you know, and I would have loved 760 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: to have seen whatever he had up coming. You you 761 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: know what, you play a lot of athletes and you 762 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: I look at boys in the hood, the best man 763 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: the game? What is it? What is it? I mean, 764 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: obviously you have the physique you can pull it off, 765 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: because Pete, you seem like believe some guys are like man, 766 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 1: it could be no football player, it could be no athlete, 767 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: but you put off. Do you get do you really 768 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: enjoy playing those roles? I do? I do? I do 769 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: because you know, you know, I want to be an athlete, 770 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: you know when I was coming up, and you know, 771 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: and that's and the thing about also, it's you know, 772 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: you someone get type casting me. That's how people see me. 773 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, that's how the powers that be see me 774 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: as an athlete. And I don't mind that, you know, 775 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: because people always come up to me. You get tired 776 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: of being type cash, You get tired as tired of that. 777 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: You can get tired of people calling you ricky And 778 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: the answer is no, because I don't get tired of 779 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: catching them. Chase, Well, if you go, if you go 780 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: to work, if you go to work every day for 781 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: twenty five years, if you get tied and going to work, no, 782 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: I get I don't get tired of making this money. 783 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: Exactly that. And you know when, I'll never forget when 784 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: I first started out, and I was always man, if 785 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: I could just do something that people would recognize before 786 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: so I can get my next job, if I could 787 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: just do something that people will see. But I've never 788 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: forgotten that. When. So, how long did it take you 789 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: to get I mean, obviously, when you're talking about you 790 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: work out, you hoop, how long does it take you 791 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: to get in shape? Or are they like okay, I'm good, 792 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: you just keep doing what you're doing. Does it really 793 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: take you a four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks to 794 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: get in shape for a movie? It depends on So. 795 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: You know, I've seen your Instagram, I've seen your diet, 796 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: I've seen your oat meals and all that stuff. I've 797 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: been checking you out, you know, And I do that. 798 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: But I have a bad, bad sweet too, right, and 799 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: so so I need I just need to I need 800 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: a heads up before, like the shirtless scenes. I just 801 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: need a heads up before those. Being in La, born 802 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: and raised in LA. Lakers winning the championship, yep, i'sh man, 803 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: Uh you know it's it's uh shoot me. It's been 804 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: a sweet you know, because Kobe wasn't there, you know, 805 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: and you know I literally saw Kobe's two weeks before 806 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: he passed. But I'm glad we're able to do it 807 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: for Kobe. I'm glad we're able to do it again. 808 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: You know. I know you're big Lebron James fan and 809 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 1: I and of course we have Lebron and and hopefully 810 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: we can get another one. Give me your top five 811 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: Lakers all times since you know the Lakers, You've been 812 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: in La your whole life, so you you go, you 813 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: go way back, way back. Magic, I mean magic has 814 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: to be. I love Kobe, I love Shack, but that 815 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: magic and that magic those showtime days, I mean the 816 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: the energy we had energy with Kobe and Shack and 817 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: even when Kobe with the saw, but it was nothing 818 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: like the showtime energy and what magic was doing a 819 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: magic plan center. And so I have to say my 820 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: top three, top three, five tot five magic uh recently 821 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: biased with with with the Kobe and Shack okay, uh 822 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: Kareem of course okay and uh and Worthy. That's not 823 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: a bad list. I mean anytime you leave off Chamberlain 824 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: U the logo Jarry West, well, listen, I never used 825 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: to I never used to watch basketball until really Magic 826 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: in Showtime got me interested in basketball. I've always loved football. 827 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: So going back to Jerry West and Chamberlain the cat 828 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: that I've never seen play live, because this is the 829 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: thing for me. It's something about seeing somebody playing live. Yes, 830 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: that moment, right, we can go back and look at 831 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: the tapes, but it's not gonna be the same with 832 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: the game on the line down by one. You need 833 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: to get with that emotion there. So that's that's the 834 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: only reason why I left off Chamberlain and a logo. 835 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. So rappers, you you like, 836 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: you like music, give me your top, give me your 837 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: top rappers. So okay, So I'm a little I'm a 838 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: little biased. I think the best lyricists is ice Cu. 839 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean, people gotta go back and and and and 840 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: look at someone listening, look at cue lyrics. It was 841 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: right an Nwa and uh so I like, you know, 842 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: que of course, Pok Biggie uh and and and Jay Uh. Yeah. 843 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of casts out there that 844 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: are doing it though, you know, uh, you know, I'll say, 845 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: I'll say another one that you know, he had one 846 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: album that was my favorite, my favorite, I should said tape. 847 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: My favorite cassette tape was DJ Quick for a long time. Right, 848 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: so DJ Quick was the local War. Are you surprised? 849 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, actors want to be want to be athletes. 850 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: Athletes want to be rappers. Rappers want to be entertainers. 851 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: What's what's the appeal? What's the crossover appeal? That's interesting? 852 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: I think it's uh, I think part of it. I 853 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: think to do what I do, to do what you've done, 854 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, you need to have that ambition, that ambition 855 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: first and foremost. And when you're ambitious, I think that 856 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: you just look at opportunities, you know, and and if 857 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 1: you have, if you have something that you feel a secure, 858 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: you're looking for the next opportunity, right, you know, you 859 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: always want what you can't have, you know, So I 860 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: feel it's just just ambitious people who who who want 861 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: to search for more opportunities A thirty I'm wrapping up 862 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: with this one a thirty year movie career, a fifteen 863 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: year NFL NBA career, or a Twitter or or a 864 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: twitty year of music career. If you had, I'm talking 865 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: to a eighteen year old mars chess Nut. Wow. You 866 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 1: know what's crazy is an eighteen year old more chest nut. 867 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: I would have I would have wanted to be a 868 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: football player over everything, because eighteen I wouldn't think about 869 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: no acting. I wouldn't even I wouldn't want to be 870 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: And that was that. I would have been the shortest 871 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: career career. And then because you said, hold on, I'm 872 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: thirty three, I can get into acting now. Yeah exactly. 873 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: But at eight team you're not realizing that you're not 874 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: thinking that way. You know what you want and you're 875 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: going after what you want, you know, bro, mo, I 876 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: really appreciate the time, man, thanks for stopping by. I 877 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, and we're gonna be watching you. Thank you. Man. 878 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: Let me just plug plug at at GSC life on 879 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: Instagram and Instagram, Twitter, uh for Facebook for the for 880 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: the podcast The Resident comes out January sixth, and uh 881 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: and uh yeah check out spell. We're gonna be watching you, bro. 882 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate you. Thank you man, thank you, appreciate you, 883 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 1: thank you. Have all go with you, all my life, 884 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: running all my life. Sacrifice hustle Price. One slice got 885 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: the bon dice to swap all my life. I've been 886 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: grinding all my life, all my life, running all my 887 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: life sacrifice hustle back price. One slice got the bon 888 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: dice to swap all my life. I've been running on 889 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 1: my life