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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: It's on truth, social the message.

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Speaker 3: After lengthy deliberation and thought, and considering the tremendous talents

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Speaker 3: of many others, I have decided that.

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Speaker 2: The person best suited to assume the position of.

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Speaker 3: Vice President of the United States is Senator JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance of the Great State of Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Donald Trump Junior had pushed hard for this choice, Kaylee.

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Speaker 2: And he was, as we mentioned, on every short list.

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Speaker 3: He also went through a remarkable evolution from a blue

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Speaker 3: collar critic of Donald Trump's he referred to him as

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Speaker 3: cultural heroine to clearly a MAGA loyalist. To the point

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Speaker 3: now where Donald Trump has made this decision in joining

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Speaker 3: us here in Milwaukee to talk about this and some

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Speaker 3: of the other issues and themes surrounding the RNC, is

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Speaker 3: the Governor of Georgia, Brian Kemp.

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Speaker 2: Governor's great to see you. Thank you for being with

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Speaker 2: us today.

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Speaker 1: Oh good to be on with you.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about this evolution that a guy

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Speaker 3: like JD. Vance went on here? Are you going to

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Speaker 3: find yourself telling a similar story when Donald Trump becomes

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Speaker 3: the official nominee on Thursday night?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's certainly a lot of excitement. I know,

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Speaker 4: looking at the screen and seeing everybody on the floor.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure the Ohio delegation's very excited. But look, I

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Speaker 4: think it's a good pick for President Trump. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Senator Vance brings an element of use to this race

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Speaker 4: that we haven't seen.

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Speaker 1: That's for sure.

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Speaker 4: The guys United States Senator obviously qualified to serve a

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Speaker 4: great messenger, which is I think very important when you

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Speaker 4: think about what's going to be going on the next

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Speaker 4: four or five months in this campaign.

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Speaker 5: Well, as we consider this selection, though, knowing that you

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Speaker 5: represent one of the key swing states we are watching

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Speaker 5: in this cycle, knowing Georgia is not bright red or

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Speaker 5: bright blue, what does jd Vance bring to undecided voters

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Speaker 5: in Georgia? How is he likely to influence that opinion

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Speaker 5: when he, as we've talked about, may just be seen

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Speaker 5: as a younger version of Donald Trump himself.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's not just what jd Vance brings

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Speaker 4: to the but also what President Trump and other Republicans

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Speaker 4: can do between now November to make sure that you

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Speaker 4: know you're getting those persuadable voters. For me, and what

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Speaker 4: I'm hearing every day is that you know, Americans and

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Speaker 4: Georgians can afford another four years of Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: I think that is a message that jd. Vance can deliver.

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Speaker 4: It's certainly a message that President Trump and a lot

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Speaker 4: of other Republicans, whether it be you know, people that

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Speaker 4: we're trying to help win at the state House and

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Speaker 4: state Senate level to hold our majorities in the General

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Speaker 4: Assembly in Georgia, are going to be talking about people.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously he's been very outspoken as well on

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Speaker 4: the disaster at the southern border under this administration's policy.

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Speaker 4: So I think there's a number of issues that will

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Speaker 4: resonate with swing state voters.

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Speaker 3: He referred to Donald Trump back in twenty sixteen after

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Speaker 3: the book came out as noxious, so leading the white

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Speaker 3: working class into a very dark place?

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Speaker 4: Was there some truth to that when you look back, Well,

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Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't read the book. You know, a

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Speaker 4: lot of people write a lot of different things.

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Speaker 1: In the book.

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Speaker 2: Did a lot of interviews in that time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Well I get that. I'm you know, I

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Speaker 4: his book. But listen, I think you know that this

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Speaker 4: is all about the future. You know, there's been a

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Speaker 4: lot of a lot of tough politics, a lot of rhetoric.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been involved in some of that as

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Speaker 4: well with the former president, a lot of other people

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Speaker 4: things that may not have been that flattery's all water

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Speaker 4: under the bridge. Yeah, but that you know that happens

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Speaker 4: it's going to be incumbent on people to stay focused

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Speaker 5: Okay, So if we stay focused on the future and

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Speaker 5: think about the kind of policy that these two as

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Speaker 5: that they lean toward populism, protectionism. Even Senator ged Evans

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Speaker 5: something we followed very carefully at Bloomberg. But these ideas

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Speaker 5: of say higher tariffs. As you sit here and tell

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Speaker 5: us that what Georgians really care about is the money

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Speaker 5: Americans by putting a blanket tariff on everything, perhaps sixty

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Speaker 5: percent plus on goods coming out of China, a way

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Speaker 4: People, Well, you know, I would let them speak to

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Speaker 4: their policy positions. But if you look at what Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden's been doing, he's been picking winners and losers. So

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Speaker 4: to me, I think what former President Trump and what

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Speaker 1: I have different views myself.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people are going to disagree

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Speaker 4: on issues on the economy and on jobs and you

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Speaker 4: know other things that are going on. But you know,

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Speaker 4: the thing is to try, in my opinion, is let

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Speaker 4: the market work and don't pick winners and losers. And

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Speaker 4: that's what Joe Biden has been doing. I think the

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Speaker 4: populist in Donald Trump and people like JD Vance is

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Speaker 4: really trying to fight for the American worker and the

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Speaker 4: you know, they're not getting their you know, education tuition

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Speaker 4: really fight for that everyday American that's out there, I

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Speaker 4: think is really what they're focused on. And look, there's

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Speaker 4: may not go along with that either. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: you have to keep all these things relative. But it's like,

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Speaker 1: And to me, it's.

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Speaker 4: It's you know, the Republican ticket, the Republican policy makers

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Speaker 4: that have been pushing back and didn't create this forty

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Speaker 2: Well, to pick up on Kiley's point, there's.

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Speaker 3: A big debate going on right now about making permanent

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Speaker 3: the Trump tax from twenty seventeen. On the surface, this

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Speaker 3: we have economists telling us every day that that will

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Speaker 2: Would you tell Donald Trump to tap the brakes on

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Speaker 4: I would not try to be advising them on what

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Speaker 4: can say from the state perspective, you know, we have

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Speaker 4: to balance our budget in the state.

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Speaker 1: Of Georgia, and we've been lowering on what that means.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I know, you don't and you know you

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Speaker 4: spend too much money too, So I mean there's ways

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Speaker 4: inflationary environment, and that's certainly what we tried to work

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Speaker 4: what Republicans are fighting for. Well, Joe Biden and his

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Speaker 4: to me, it's just if the policy is so good,

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Speaker 4: got to look at government spending, especially in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 4: It's a reason our debts and deficits are up. Is

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Speaker 4: I think as the Fed continues to look at where

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Speaker 5: Governor. Of course, we thought all of our conversations this week,

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Speaker 5: in some ways the tone has very much changed given

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Speaker 5: How concerned are you about political violence or steaked as

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Speaker 4: Well, look, we're gonna keep people safe in Georgia. I'm

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Speaker 4: you know, just heartbreaking loss of a true American hero

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Speaker 4: not imagine what this country would be like right now

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Speaker 1: But I think it is an.

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Speaker 4: Opportunity for all of us really to just think about

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Speaker 4: you know, we're we're having our battles in a respectful

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Speaker 4: this kid's car. You know, we need to really think

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Speaker 4: through what we're saying to people. I was telling Marty

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Speaker 4: my team earlier. You know, I go to church with

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Speaker 4: a lot of people that I know don't vote for me,

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Speaker 1: We're just praying together.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's really what the country needs to

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Speaker 4: think about as we moved to November. You know, fight

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Speaker 4: hard for your position, but let's have civil discord, discourse

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Speaker 4: and settle this at the ballot box.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people remember the language on the

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Speaker 3: perfect phone call. A lot of people know who Brian

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Speaker 3: Kemp is because of that call, along with your Secretary

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Speaker 3: of State Raeflisberger. You fast forward to this political convention now,

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Speaker 3: and I wonder what your thoughts are about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: If you trust him to be the steward here going forward,

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Speaker 3: if he does win reelection, would you would endeavor to

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Speaker 4: Well, man, we're going to work with any administration this

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Speaker 4: we had a great work relationship with the Trump administration

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Speaker 4: when they were in office. I had a great relationship

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Speaker 4: with the Vice president with you know, got to know

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Speaker 4: really well a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of the cabinet. Second, you can recreate that work work

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Speaker 1: very closely.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I've been asked a question, you know,

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Speaker 4: sure do you you know, how do you feel about

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Speaker 4: the democracy and its surviving this election? And I actually feel,

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Speaker 4: you know, very optimistic about that. I think the institutions

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Speaker 4: of government are very strong. There's a lot of good people.

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Speaker 4: When they put their hand on that Bible and take that, oh,

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Speaker 4: they mean it. And I think they'll do their job

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Speaker 4: and follow the law in the constitution, you know, the

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Speaker 4: rest of this year and through this election. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I think I really feel optimistic about that.

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Speaker 5: Well, So, if Georgia's result comes down to a few

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Speaker 5: thousand votes as it did last time, twelve thousand whatever,

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Speaker 5: and the results is the same where it is not

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Speaker 5: a victory for Donald Trump, do you trust him to

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Speaker 5: react differently this time?

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Speaker 4: Well, I would just tell you I can't speak for

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Speaker 4: what how other people are going to react and other candidates,

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Speaker 4: because I couldn't do that with Stacy Abrams when she

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Speaker 4: never conceded to me in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 5: Stec Abrams wasn't convicted on racketeering charges or indicted.

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Speaker 4: Rather well, Stacy Abrams has got a lot of legal

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Speaker 4: problems right now that most people don't report on, and

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Speaker 4: her groups do. Maybe not her personally, but her groups

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Speaker 4: certainly do. But I will tell you that I think

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Speaker 4: the institutional institutions of government, at least in the state

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Speaker 4: of Georgia will hold in the twenty twenty election. I'm

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Speaker 4: very confident on that. I'm very confident that we're going

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Speaker 4: to have a secure, accessible, fair election in our state.

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Speaker 4: Should Georgia drop the case against Donald Trump, well, I

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Speaker 4: don't know that Georgia has a case against Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: because of what the Supreme Court says. Well, I mean

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Speaker 4: you'd have to ask Fannie willis that question. I mean

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Speaker 4: that is the local district attorney that has brought that case,

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Speaker 4: not the State of Georgia.

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Speaker 5: Of course, we're not expecting it's going to go to

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Speaker 5: trial before the election. Governor, thank you so much for

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Speaker 5: being with us here in Wisconsin, The Governor of Georgia,

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Speaker 5: Brian Company, appreciate your time, Sir.

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Speaker 2: I hope we'll have you back