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Speaker 2: Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you can feel the electricity in the air. The

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Speaker 3: fireworks will be there for us tonight. It is the

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Speaker 3: fourth of July, and we are here for every ounce

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Speaker 3: of the fun that we are about to have in

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Speaker 3: the next several hours. Buck Rising, Jason Fitz. Usually I'll

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Speaker 3: be honest, you know what, Buck, Usually I'll be honest.

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Speaker 3: I start most shows in most hours with sort of

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Speaker 3: a monologue in a statement. But today it's fourth of July, man,

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Speaker 3: Like you know, it just feels like today is a

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Speaker 3: day for us to peel back a little bit, for

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Speaker 3: us not to be as serious as as so many

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Speaker 3: people are. Like Today's a day of glorious celebration. I

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Speaker 3: feel like people driving around right now that are getting

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Speaker 3: to start their day need the reminder that this is

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Speaker 3: an awesome day. It's just there's something about the fourth.

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Speaker 3: I'm not usually a sentimental guy or a guy that

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Speaker 3: really like gets work. He gives me a look. I'm

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Speaker 3: not that guy, but I don't know the fourth hits me. Brother.

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Speaker 4: Oh please, you spent the first three hours that we

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Speaker 4: did one of these shows together talking.

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Speaker 2: About, Oh, we've known each other for.

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Speaker 4: Ten years and oh this is so special for both

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Speaker 4: of us that I just looked at you. It's like,

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Speaker 4: it's seven in the morning. Leave me alone. What are

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Speaker 2: What do you mean You're not a sentimental guy?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you don't have a heart. Okay, Like if we

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Speaker 3: are all playing roles on the Wizard of Oz, you

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Speaker 3: were definitely the ten men, and I'm definitely the cowardly.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's so rude, so rude to greet me with

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Speaker 4: on this Independence day. You know what I want independence from?

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Speaker 4: I want independence from fireworks. I'm so sick of this.

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Speaker 4: I tried so hard to go to bed through the

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Speaker 4: fireworks last night. Who the hell told you you could

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Speaker 4: shoot off fireworks on July third? I almost I was

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Speaker 4: almost that person fifty. I almost went outside and yelled

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Speaker 2: Cut it out so close.

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Speaker 3: I once in my life when I was living in Nashville,

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Speaker 3: one time a neighbor we were lighting fireworks off on

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Speaker 3: been gone so much I didn't know that there was

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Speaker 3: a like a drought warning or whatever. So she called

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Speaker 3: the cops and they they came and dancing at about

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Speaker 3: like eleven thirty at night. They came in, let us

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Speaker 3: know what we could do. I look, I respect it.

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Speaker 3: I respect a crotchety old man for you. Like because look,

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Speaker 3: especially in certain parts of the country, the third of

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Speaker 3: gonna go downtown on the fourth, so we're gonna do

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Speaker 3: our side community fireworks. People are gonna have people over

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Speaker 3: like the third of July. It is its own little party.

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Speaker 3: And while I agree with you, I think we came

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Speaker 3: for you, it's really the crowds, the crowds are overrated.

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Speaker 3: The third of July should be your day, brother, Like

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Speaker 3: you can get all the fireworks you need on the

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Speaker 3: of the crowds are the fourth Like this feels like

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Speaker 3: this is a good thing for you. The third should

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Speaker 3: be your celly day.

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Speaker 2: I'm willing to accept that. Listen.

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Speaker 4: I'm open to negotiations on this because I understand that

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Speaker 4: it is Independence Day. We get to celebrate living and

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Speaker 4: working and being a part of the greatest country.

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Speaker 4: I am one hundred percent for everything that it stands for,

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Speaker 2: I swear, it's just it's the one thing.

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Speaker 4: But you're right, it's really more about the crowds and

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna ease myself out of the crotchetiness, if

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Speaker 3: We got a lot that we're gonna get to over

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Speaker 3: the course of the morning, including why that fireworks display

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Speaker 3: is not only amazing in Nashville, but also wildly difficult.

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Speaker 3: I'll explain that later in the show, but in the meantime,

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Speaker 3: often when we start these shows, somebody else, Why doesn't

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Speaker 3: major League Baseball own the Fourth of July? Like Baseball

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Speaker 3: hot Dog apple Pie, like Total America through and through?

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Speaker 3: And I got to thinking about that weirdly this morning

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Speaker 3: you know, for three years I was the sideline reporter

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Speaker 3: for whatever reason, the Nathan's Famous hot Dog Eating Contest

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Speaker 3: there's a full slate of Major League Baseball games. Baseball

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Speaker 3: said than done. What the NFL is accomplished with owning

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Speaker 4: And I think that's There's a couple of things to that, right.

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Speaker 4: What's the biggest difference between football and baseball?

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Speaker 3: Fitsy one's fun to watch and the other isn't.

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Speaker 4: Oh, why you see you're talking about everybody having good spirits,

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Speaker 4: good energy. Today, I come in here shaking a fist

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Speaker 4: shooting fireworks off and you side swipe baseball. Now, the

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Speaker 4: biggest difference, the biggest difference. Good morning, By the way,

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Speaker 4: we're happy to have you here.

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Speaker 2: On five Sports Radio. We really are. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a good time. The biggest difference to me is the inventory. Right.

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Speaker 4: There is such a premium placed on the NFL because

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Speaker 4: there are only seventeen regular season games, and.

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Speaker 2: We thirst for it.

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Speaker 4: It's an oasis in the sports desert each and every year,

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Speaker 4: where you know, I'm scrolling Twitter yesterday and There's plenty

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Speaker 4: captivating to I think a good portion of the sports

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Speaker 2: It's just an inventory thing to me.

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Speaker 4: There's so many baseball games, and especially this I know

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Speaker 4: it's to say that. I mean it's early in the season.

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Speaker 4: It's early in the season at this point in time,

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Speaker 4: gravitating towards things if you're just talking about me, and

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Speaker 4: still has eighty something games to go. In principle, and

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Speaker 4: July fourth is not the most important time of year

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Speaker 4: It's just simply not so. With that in mind, I

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Speaker 4: and dominate things both home and abroad. Right, that's really

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Speaker 3: I mean, I had somebody walk up to me at

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Speaker 3: I'm like, there's baseball on like three TVs right now, dude,

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's what planted the seed of this concept.

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Speaker 3: But you're right in the sense that you know, peel

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Speaker 3: And it was funny. You're right. It's hard to make

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Speaker 3: I mean they're never going to reduce the NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I'm just feeling the spirit. I got this America just

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I just know the drama with you. I'm fine.

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Speaker 4: There's there's Facebook pages to devote to do exactly that.

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Speaker 4: he is He has said that he is going to

437
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 4: do this as long as he can. He's going to

438
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 4: do this until the wheels fall off. And today today

439
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,959
Speaker 4: feels like a day where Joey Chestnut comes out and

440
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 4: gives us his a game, the best of the best,

441
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 4: absolute dominant fashion, regardless of conditions.

442
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 2: He is going to just obliterate.

443
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 4: The competition, especially with a little bit of layoff. He's

444
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 4: been waiting for this moment for quite some time.

445
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I found looks like the over under on dogs

446
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: for Joey Chestnut is seventy one and a half. Okay,

447
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: so he had seventy six is the record that he did,

448
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 3: I believe in twenty one and sixty two is what

449
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 3: he consumed in twenty three. But remember the leg injury

450
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 3: in twenty three was a big part of that, so

451
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 3: he was down a little bit from what he's Yeah,

452
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 3: you're right, he's going to kill it. And here's the

453
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: funny thing, little inside baseball here, but I talked to

454
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: people at Netflix last year.

455
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: Won't do baseball, but we'll do inside baseball on the

456
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 2: hot dog gat.

457
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: I talked to people at Netflix last year about them

458
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 3: making the play for Joey Tesna. It was never really

459
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 3: about wanting to blow up some huge hot talk gating contest.

460
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: It was about testing a live run before they got

461
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: to the Christmas And like when Netflix starts to run

462
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: some of these things live, they're just continually looking at

463
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 3: ways to make sure that their systems and practices work

464
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: for when they actually get hammered on Christmas Day the

465
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: way they knew they were going to. So all of

466
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: these live events that went poorly for Netflix last year

467
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 3: were all actually part of what they understood was their

468
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 3: process to get ready for Christmas Day, which was a

469
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 3: raving success. Right, So everything worked great, they didn't have

470
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: any issues on Christmas, but they had to basically make

471
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: other events sacrificial lambs to test the processes in order

472
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,479
Speaker 3: to get to that situation. So it worked, But it

473
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: does bring us all the way back to where we

474
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: started on can you genuinely in the modern market, can

475
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 3: you convince someone to go to a if you're not

476
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: the NFL to go to a streaming service and truly

477
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: watch your content. And it's this is an interesting thought

478
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 3: process to me because I'll go back to the NFL.

479
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 3: The first time I toured in Europe, and this was

480
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: probably twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, I was stunned when we

481
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: went over to Europe and the NFL Sunday ticket exists

482
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: all over the world, right, but in Europe at the

483
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 3: time they offered you could buy it. Like I went

484
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: over there didn't want to miss the Raiders game. So

485
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: the question I went to sign up for European Sunday

486
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: ticket and the country it knows what country you're in

487
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: from your laptop, and immediately this is all the way

488
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: back what thirteen fourteen years ago. It immediately asked did

489
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: I want just the Raiders games? Did I want just

490
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: this week's games? Or did I want all games? Like

491
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: they have offered the Sunday ticket as an o la

492
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 3: carte choose your own adventure for over a decade to

493
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 3: everybody but America. And it's funny because now as we

494
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: continually see everything get more and more to just website,

495
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: streaming services, all of these things, well they've been doing

496
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 3: some of that for the rest of the world forever.

497
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to. You know, you can

498
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: have the best event in the world, but if you

499
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: put it on Amazon Prime and it's not a football

500
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: game like the Yankees being up seven to nothing and

501
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: then are being down seven to nothing and having their

502
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: huge comeback, that really nobody watched like our people, And

503
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 3: you can speak to sort of a different generation than

504
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: I are people genuinely coming home and saying, oh, yeah,

505
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 3: that WNBA game is over on insert streaming platform here

506
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna find it. And if not, is that

507
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: really worse though than some of these sports again, like

508
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: the w that at times are buried on networks I

509
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: didn't even know existed, Like, oh yeah, you can find

510
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: that Asis game on Ion if you're looking for it. Like, I,

511
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 3: my god, I don't know what's worse. Like, I just

512
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: think that if you truly want to blow things up

513
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: in a way that people will watch it and crave

514
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 3: it and go to it, you got to make things

515
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 3: as simple for everybody as humanly possible, one network that

516
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: they can go to and they don't have to think.

517
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 4: Sure, but that's not the reality of the situation, right,

518
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 4: There's only so many things that can be put on,

519
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 4: and plenty of I don't want to call them fringe sports,

520
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: but the WNBA has been considered that prior to having

521
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 4: its huge surgeon momentum here in these last couple of years,

522
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 4: and I would say that there's plenty of those fringe

523
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 4: sports jockeying for that visibility and trying to do deals. Hell,

524
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's see how much you've kept

525
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 4: up with or if you pay attention at all to

526
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: Formula one.

527
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: And I would not pretend to.

528
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: Be any kind of expert, but they had, you know,

529
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 4: they had a good momentum, moment where drive to survive.

530
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 4: The Netflix special had galvanized a lot of people's interest

531
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 4: in the sport, and that can have that that tangible

532
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 4: interest to the point where I mean.

533
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Speaker 2: Hell, we were going here locally, We were.

534
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Speaker 4: Going to eight thirty am F one watch parties at

535
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 4: bars and trying to talk bars into opening up early

536
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: so that we could go and have people come watch

537
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: the F one race, put it on the projector and

538
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 4: kind of enjoy that together. And that that did fade

539
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 4: after a period of time, when you know F one

540
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: is still highly competitive, highly entertaining. It just is does

541
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 4: it have staying power once it gets its initial hooks

542
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 4: in you, does it have the ability to keep you

543
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: there beyond that first fad phase? Right, So, Formula one

544
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: is currently trying to renegotiate its rights and their rights

545
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 4: deal is with ESPN. ESPN is currently paying, based on

546
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 4: the reporting of the Athletic eighty five million dollars for

547
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 4: the Formula one rights, and F one wants more than that,

548
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: and ESPN reportedly, again based on the Athletics reporting, has said, no.

549
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 2: We're not giving you any more money for this. It

550
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: seems fine the way it is.

551
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 4: The ratings spike, hat was just that it seems to

552
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 4: have been a spike, and maybe people over a longer

553
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: period of time will will grow that into a more

554
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 4: sustainable thing. But at this point it's not worth additional

555
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 4: investment on the part of the networks. That's That's something

556
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 4: that I think has to be taken in consideration there

557
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 4: as well, for the you know, the difference between the

558
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: streaming people that stream or because I'm I'm kind of

559
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: the anomaly here fits I'm thirty one, but I have

560
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 4: like I have a full cable package because I can

561
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 4: write it off on my taxes, and why wouldn't I

562
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: do it that way? But I also have all these streamers,

563
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 4: so like, I have the option to consume as much

564
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 4: or as little as I want, but I simply want

565
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 4: the option.

566
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: I am one of these people ease of use.

567
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 4: I don't want to have to, you know, sign up

568
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: for a subscription on the day of a game, or

569
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: a couple of minutes before a game because I just

570
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 4: found out it's on peak, Indiana's playing Iowa on a

571
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 4: Tuesday night on Peacock or something like that, which would

572
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: make me insane because I just want to watch the

573
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: Indiana basketball game. That that has happened to me a

574
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: couple of times to the point where I'm just like

575
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: f itt Will. I will sign up for as many

576
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 4: of these things as I need to have. I will

577
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: make sure I know which streaming platforms versus which broadcast

578
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 4: platforms traditional broadcast platforms my team is going to be

579
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: playing on, because that will not happen to me again. Now,

580
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 4: I'm sure the vast majority of people, probably one are

581
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: not interested in spending that kind of money, and I

582
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: completely understand that, because to sign up for the streaming

583
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: packages in a piecemeal a la carte way has become

584
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: nearly as expensive as as a YouTube TV subscription, maybe

585
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: not quite as expensive as cable still is because I'm

586
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: stunned by my cable and internet bill every month. It's outrageous,

587
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: completely outrageous. But it is getting closer and closer to

588
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: that point. So I would understand people who just kind

589
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: of recoil it that idea and say, well, I went

590
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: away from traditional cable because of the cost, and now

591
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: the cost is such and with rate increases seemingly every

592
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 4: year on some platform or another, I'm going to end

593
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: up paying as much, if not more than my addition

594
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: or my initial sports consuming plan needed me to spend.

595
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: I worked with a kid a few years ago that said,

596
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: you know what I want. I want a guide that

597
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: will take all of my streaming services and put them

598
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: into one place and tell me what's on right now

599
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: so I don't have to go from spot to spot

600
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: to spot. And I'm like yelling loudly aggressively, you are

601
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: describing cable like I don't. It is.

602
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: It is in shaw my TV guide from like the

603
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: early early nineteen nineties.

604
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: See what they make of that? Like an actual TV

605
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: guide like pamphlet.

606
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: You know what, dude, like, not only I used to

607
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: to you know this back being an old man, it

608
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: wasn't unusual when you went to the grocery store for

609
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: your mom. If you were a kid, your mom would

610
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: just like drop you off in the magazine aisle and

611
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: be like, I don't go anywhere, and so I would

612
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: sit there. Especially in the summer is the best because

613
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: the football preview magazines would come out. Again, I'm older

614
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 3: than the Internet, so like you know, you flip through

615
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: the football preview magazines. The first time we got to

616
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: read all that stuff. Man, TV guide was actually really helpful.

617
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: You know, you sit around and you can you can

618
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: read what was coming on TV guide. Look, I understand

619
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: part of this is if your Netflix or Amazon or

620
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: Apple or any of these places, one of the benefits

621
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: you have is you get a captive audience. So even

622
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: if you don't have as many eyeballs, the fact that

623
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: they are stuck in your app and can't simply turn

624
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: the channel during a commercial stoppage in play makes those uh,

625
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: those commercials more valuable. And that's one thing I think

626
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: people forget sometimes, Like as much as we want to

627
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: talk about ratings all the time, for every sporting event.

628
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: Understand that the less things that actually get live ratings,

629
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: the more that the ad revenue is for the things

630
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: that are getting live ratings. So all of this, you

631
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: know sort of and look, you mentioned F one. I

632
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: was at ESPN when that searge started, and everybody was like, oh,

633
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: I need to get into F one more. All gonna

634
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be an expert. There's gonna be opportunity the

635
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: you know, worldwide leader doing it, and then you could

636
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: tangibly feel just that momentum slip away. I don't know.

637
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: I think, look, if everybody can just accept like super

638
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: fans are gonna be fed. If you're an MLS superfan,

639
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter where they put Like I get the

640
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: MLB package through T Mobile for free, right, Like they

641
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: just give me MLB Okay, great, Like that's awesome. Like

642
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: if you're a super fan of a sport, you find

643
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: it and you'll watch it wherever. I just think we

644
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: have to accept that that all stunts a little bit

645
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: like if The Masters was suddenly put on Amazon Prime,

646
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: less people are going to watch the Masters. If if

647
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: any of these key events, like if we reach a

648
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: spot where the Stanley Cup Final decides that they're going

649
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: to be put on you know, insert streaming service here,

650
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: they want to put it on Netflix. That is you

651
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: just have to accept it. That's going to kill the

652
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: growth of your sport to casual people that are just

653
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: stumbling through, because the average person that opens up Netflix

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Speaker 3: isn't opening up Netflix saying I wonder what's happening in

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Speaker 3: live sports today that I can watch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a tough balance to strike, right, because

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Speaker 4: you and I have experience with this. I mean, when

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Speaker 4: the when the Preds one hundred years ago, eight years ago,

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Speaker 4: it feels like much longer work. We're in the Stanley Cup,

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Speaker 4: the Nashville Predators. FITZI and I were both working locally

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Speaker 4: in Nashville at the time, and they they would put

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Speaker 4: the Stanley Cup game that that that series.

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Speaker 2: Against the pit the Pittsburgh Penguins.

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Speaker 4: They would put some of the games on NBC Sports Network,

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Speaker 4: And I'm trying to figure out where that do I

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Speaker 4: get NBC Sports Network? Are they really about to put

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Speaker 4: Stanley Cup final games on an ancillary channel that I'm

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Speaker 4: going to have to seek out or potentially up my

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Speaker 4: cable subscription just to be able to consume. That's the

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Speaker 4: component where I think social media can play a huge role.

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Speaker 4: Social media can help you grow the sport, grow the

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Speaker 4: interest in the sports show, the highlights the way that

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Speaker 4: SportsCenter or your traditional highlight reel show would be able

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Speaker 4: to do, and then over time, and maybe this is

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Speaker 4: not a perfect scenario, but one that seems to make

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Speaker 4: sense at least in my mind. You've got the inventory

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Speaker 4: wherever you've got the games right, You'll use social media

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Speaker 4: to be able to capitalize that on that, whether you

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Speaker 4: post those clips on TikTok after the fact for a

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Speaker 4: certain generation, or continue to try and just inundate people

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Speaker 4: with it on Twitter, Instagram, reels, all these different marketing

682
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Speaker 4: tools that can also serve you and serve the growth

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Speaker 4: of the game and potentially welcome people in as you

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Speaker 4: widen that tent a little bit, or widen that audience

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Speaker 4: under the tent a little bit. But it's still it's

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Speaker 4: it's still a These things take time, and we are

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Speaker 4: in a microwave results society, so I'm sure that the

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Speaker 4: television networks are probably dealing with the same thing.

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Speaker 3: It's also like to be deep deep in economics for

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Speaker 3: a second.

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Speaker 2: For a lot of people, four people.

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Speaker 3: You know, deep economics to make that.

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Speaker 2: A radio t's broadcast professional.

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Speaker 3: Breeze over there, Like, I can't cut any of this

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Speaker 3: for promo purposes. Look, I would just say lost leaders

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Speaker 3: matter right, Like I think what we have to understand

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Speaker 3: is part of the reason all of these sports are

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Speaker 3: going to different streaming services is because at some point,

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Speaker 3: streaming services today are willing to pay too much to

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Speaker 3: get these sports because the concept is I'm going to

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Speaker 3: get people to start checking out Amazon Prime more, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to get people to start checking out Netflix more.

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Speaker 3: It's the reason that you saw a bunch of gambling

704
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Speaker 3: companies get into the content business like FanDuel and DraftKings

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Speaker 3: and spend a bunch of money on a bunch of

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Speaker 3: people to do shows, and then over time you see

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Speaker 3: that happen less and less. Why because now they've gotten

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Speaker 3: the what they want, they got the attention out of it.

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Speaker 3: Do they need to keep making that content? Does that

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Speaker 3: content actually make the money? Look at Caesar's a few

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Speaker 3: years ago, had all these huge names that they were

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Speaker 3: putting out there constantly for what you know, then they

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Speaker 3: stopped doing that because they realized that, hey, we've seen

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Speaker 3: all that we could see out of it so the

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Speaker 3: sports are at some point a bit of a lost leader.

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Speaker 3: That's all. That's all I'm saying. Okay, deep philosophical statements

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Speaker 3: all over the place. I know it's the fourth of July.

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00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: We should relax. We will, But in the meantime, one

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Speaker 3: of the most misreported stories in all of sports over

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Speaker 3: the course of the week, and we're gonna fix it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get it right, and that includes correcting some

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Speaker 3: of our colleagues. We'll do it next these Buck Rising,

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason fitz hanging out with you for Two Pros

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Speaker 3: and a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

726
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 6: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am three am Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Don't let facts get in the way of a good

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Speaker 3: narrative on Sports Talk one on one and Boy has

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Speaker 3: it happened this week? I mean, the information available at

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Speaker 3: the hands of people that sit in front of a

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Speaker 3: microphone is pretty bountiful, and I'm not sure why. Instead

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Speaker 3: of looking at information asking questions like why, instead, the

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Speaker 3: easiest thing to do is just yell into a microphone

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Speaker 3: with no consequence. And I'm not gonna let us stand.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna correct some wrongs here. He's Buck rising on

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Speaker 3: Jason Fitz What Buck's giving me a? Look, we're in

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Speaker 3: for two pros and a cup of Joe on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Why would you try to take away the thing that

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Speaker 4: I love the most, which is just shouting into microphones

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Speaker 4: without any context, nuance, or anything else.

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Speaker 2: Why would you do that to me? That's my that's

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Speaker 2: my superpower.

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Speaker 4: You to You're trying to kneek at me before we're

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Speaker 4: even an hour into the show this morning.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm gonna go full Tawny Harding on this thing.

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Speaker 3: That's a fun dated reference for people.

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Speaker 2: Or ankles out here.

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Speaker 3: Oh, be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 3: YouTube channel a ton of our great videos from a

752
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Speaker 3: ton of the Fox Sports Radio shows. Just search Fox

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00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of

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Speaker 3: video highlights from shows. And subscribe while you're out there

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Speaker 3: so you always have instant access to our Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio videos on YouTube. I'm all into yell. I just

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Speaker 3: think that as a general population, we could all afford

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Speaker 3: to stop and ask why before we yell, like especially now. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm right on that cusp age wise where to be

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Speaker 3: fully honest, in my senior I grew up with nothing.

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Speaker 3: We didn't have any money. My senior year of high school,

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Speaker 3: my papers were typed on a typewriter, Like I didn't

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Speaker 3: have a computer like that. That wasn't something my family

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Speaker 3: could afford. Right, So the Internet isn't something that I

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Speaker 3: ever saw until I went to college. Right, So I

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Speaker 3: think maybe generationally, I come from a spot where I

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Speaker 3: had to ask why, and I was raised to ask why.

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Speaker 3: So before I run into a microphone and just start

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Speaker 3: yelling something, I'm sort of that that person that's gonna

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Speaker 3: ask four or five people and I'm gonna make sure

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Speaker 3: I'm not missing something, and I'm gonna go to chat

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Speaker 3: ept now and I'm gonna ask it to give me

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Speaker 3: three different angles on every one of these things. Like

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Speaker 3: that's how I'm natured. So I'm frustrated buck that this

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00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: week a lot of stupidity became the calling card for

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00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: comments about Caitlyn Clark. And look, I can I can

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Speaker 3: already hear people driving that are rolling their eyes Kitlinark whatever,

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Speaker 3: Like look, I'm gonna beg the world don't get so

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Speaker 3: dug in on your takes about Caitlin and the w

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Speaker 3: that you refuse to actually step back and ask why

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Speaker 3: when you see the report that Caitlyn Clark was the

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Speaker 3: ninth leading vote getter from players in the WNBA All

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Speaker 3: Star cycle instead of just.

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Speaker 4: As a guard, not just like in total, not regardless

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Speaker 4: of position, but the ninth best guard in the sport

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Speaker 4: was what she was voted on by her peers.

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Speaker 3: So this reminds me of the conversation a few years

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Speaker 3: ago around I don't remember which player it was, but

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Speaker 3: one of the NFL players that said he's never even

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Speaker 3: gotten an NFL MVP vote, this is impossible. Well, I

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Speaker 3: started asking NFL MVP voters at the time and found

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Speaker 3: out that at the time They've changed this in the

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Speaker 3: last couple of years, but at the time, every vote

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Speaker 3: getter got one name to put on a card. So

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Speaker 3: the concept of well it said player never got a

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Speaker 3: single MVP vote in the NFL five years ago, six

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Speaker 3: years ago, Well that's pretty simple, because if you only

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Speaker 3: got one name that you can put on the placard,

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Speaker 3: that's different. Like if we're asking Buck Rising to vote

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Speaker 3: on the MVP and he gets four or five names.

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Speaker 3: That's important. If we're asking Buck Rising to vote on

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Speaker 3: the NFL MVP and he only gets one name, now

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, we're gonna sit there and say, well,

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Speaker 3: how did Josh Allen not even get a single MVP?

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Speaker 3: Maybe everybody that year just prefer Lamar Jackson or Passion Malmes,

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Speaker 3: you know. So you need the nuance and that's where

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Speaker 3: this matters. Like I talked to a couple of people

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Speaker 3: that actually play in the WNBA. I talked to a

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Speaker 3: couple of people that are actually part of that voting

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Speaker 3: process and was immediately informed Number one, every player only

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Speaker 3: got to put four names on their card. So and

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Speaker 3: then they give a cumulative score. You get a number

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Speaker 3: of points for four, three, two and one, so on

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Speaker 3: and so forth, more points as you go up the latter.

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Speaker 3: So the concept that she got the ninth most points

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that that somebody sat there and laid out

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Speaker 3: eight other players. It means that all of the players

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Speaker 3: laid out just enough players ahead of her that in

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Speaker 3: the vote process she might have been fourth on everybody's

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Speaker 3: and that still could have put her ninth. We have

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Speaker 3: no way of knowing that right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's so much less fun than being fake

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Speaker 4: mad and on social media about this because you had

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Speaker 4: people who I do consider to be nuanced and reasonable

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Speaker 4: and thoughtful about the way that they go about their

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Speaker 4: analysis and things like that. And you know, I think

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Speaker 4: when people mention reasonable and thoughtful and nuanced, maybe dig

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Speaker 4: vital doesn't necessarily come to your mind. But like Diggyv's

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Speaker 4: out there just sideswiping the entire league on Twitter because

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Speaker 4: of the jealousness and pettiness is in the way that

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Speaker 4: he in the way that he contextualized it of WNBA players.

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Speaker 4: Don't they know how much revenue Caitlin Clark earns for them, this, that,

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Speaker 4: and the other like it, It becomes people want to

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Speaker 4: make it an indictment of somebody. Women's basketball has been

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Speaker 4: a polarizing topic for a long time or an easy

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Speaker 4: topic for a lot of people in sports to just

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Speaker 4: stand up, look around to dismiss. And so now once

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Speaker 4: you think you found that and it's being done at

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Speaker 4: the expense of the great White Hope Caitlyn Clark, then

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Speaker 4: that becomes a little more visceral for a lot of people,

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Speaker 4: and they can stir up a little extra outrage.

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Speaker 2: And it also allows some people.

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Speaker 4: To grift off those kind of emotions on the Internet

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Speaker 4: for a living, to take advantage of that. And I

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Speaker 4: think those people know who they are well.

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Speaker 3: And that's where I saw the Dicky V tweets and

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Speaker 3: I immediately thought, man, this is sort of the equivalent

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Speaker 3: of DICKYV being got got by a fake Adam Schefter account,

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Speaker 3: like he got got by a bunch of information that

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Speaker 3: lacked context. There's more context, even more context to it

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Speaker 3: than I want to give you, and why we're all

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Speaker 3: looking at the wrong way. We'll do it next to

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Speaker 3: pros and a cup of Joe and his Buckin' Fits