1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon. 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck Sexton podcast Network. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: I'm Tutor Dixon, and today we're talking about the junk 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 3: we put into our bodies. 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: And I know that some of you may want. 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 3: To check out talking about this, because I also sometimes 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 3: want to check out talking about this because I hate 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: anyone telling me that I'm putting something bad in my bodies, 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 3: or worse yet, my body or my children's bodies, the 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: idea that someone tells me that I'm feeding them bad stuff. 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: But on the other side of that, I want to know, 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: And so I thought you might want to know too. 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: And I've been following someone on Twitter who has been 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: talking quite a bit about this from a perspective of understanding, 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: from a historical job, and so I said, I've got 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: to have him on. I've got to talk to him. 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: This is the co founder of trumed Callie means Callie. 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: Before I got you on here, I was telling you, 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: I've been watching what you're saying, and like I said, 22 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: as a mom, I have guilt over what I put 23 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: in my kids. Lunches, what we're eating at dinner, whether 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: or not we're going out to dinner. And so you've 25 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: really opened my eyes to certain things like sugar, and 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: I think that we consume a ton of sugar. So 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: I thank you for coming on the program, and I 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: want you to just kind of give me a background 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: of how you got into talking about this. 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Tutor, and just so grateful to be 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: to be talking about this issue. You know, it's been 32 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: a long time coming on this for me. But I 33 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: think it's the most important issue for America. I mean, 34 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: what we're fueling our bodies with. I think how the 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: system is rigged against us. It's the first order issue 36 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: because it impacts our bodies and our brains, which impacts 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: how we look at the world. But my stories, I 38 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: grew up in Washington, c a good young conservative, worked 39 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: for President Bush, worked for the Heritage Foundation, and really 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: was on this kick about really appreciating and just implicitly trusting, 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: you know, all American industries. Basically, I actually consulted for 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: big food, consulted for pharma, and espoused how you know, 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: American agricultural innovation, American pharmaceutical innovation was just you know 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: the best in the world, and I would say over 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: the past ten years getting out of politics more into entrepreneurship. 46 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: Inspired by some personal family health tragedies. My sister, who 47 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: is a top of a class Stanford med School surgeon 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: and dropped out of the medical system after seeing a 49 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: lot of corruption and problems, really was brought to this 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: realization that with food particularly, we are not dealing with 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: a free market. We are dealing with a rigged market. 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: I think, as a conservative, I think this idea of 53 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: personal responsibility personal accountability means a lot to me. But 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: there's something very wrong where eighty percent of American adults 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: are now a visa awaight. And you know, if you 56 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: want to talk about personal responsibility versus rig system, you 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: just have to look at kids. And this is just 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: a stat I can't get my heads around. Twenty five 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: percent of kids right now have pre diabetes. You know, 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: a generation ago you would have a diabetes Doyle, I 61 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: did not know that pre diabetes. So fifty percent of 62 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: American adults have pre diabetes or diabetes and twenty five 63 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: percent of kids. Fifteen percent of kids right now have 64 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: fatty liver disease. This is a condition that you know, 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: a doctor wouldn't see, you know, among anyone that's not 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: an elderly alcoholic. Now it's fifteen percent of kids, and 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: then of course forty five percent of kids right now 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: you go into any classroom, and I think this is 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: why a lot of people waking up to this issue 70 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: and it's becoming a big issue, and that's resonating a 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: lot is parents are very concerned there's something there's something 72 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: very off happening with when you look at close to 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 2: fifty percent of kids being overweight or obese. And it's 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: been a progression for me. But I don't think Americans, particularly, 75 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: you know, parents with their children are system hadically trying 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: to shorten you know, their lives and miss their kids wedding. 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: I think that's so important to talk about because I've 78 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: had some young people that have said, all these parents 79 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: just don't care, and I think it's happened so fast. 80 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: So I will say that growing up, I was in 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: classrooms where we had, you know, maybe one kid that 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: suffered being overweight, but it was really pretty rare. And 83 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: then I think it was shocking to me when my 84 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: kids went into kindergarten because I remember coming home and 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: saying to my husband, the kids, so many of the 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: kids are overweight. It was shocking to me because it 87 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: seemed like there's something else going on here, and you've 88 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: seem it seems like you've identified what's going on those 89 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: brands that we trusted. I think it's interesting we're so 90 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: used to big pharma. I haven't really thought about big food, 91 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: but there is a lot that goes in behind the 92 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: food companies being allowed to market to our kids. To 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: put this on the in the lunch room at school, 94 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: talk a little bit about how this is getting to 95 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: our kids without really us realizing how bad it is. 96 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I very rarely in my life 97 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: looked to Europe as a model of much. But I 98 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: do think it's notable right that the US and New 99 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: Zealand are the only countries in the world that allow 100 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: pharmaceutical ads, and then almost every other developed country in 101 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: the world does not and has limits on food ads, 102 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: which I really do consider sugar a highly addictive drug 103 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: that we're pushing on children. We have rampant food ads. 104 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: The number one advertiser for news networks in the country 105 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: is pharma. The number one advertiser for children's networks for Nickelodeon, 106 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: the Disney Channel is food and you have heavy lobbying 107 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: from Viacom, Johns, Nickelodeon and the other children's networks to 108 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: the FTC to allow unfettered It is shocking. And yeah, 109 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: and this is this is I think something people a 110 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: waking up to that's very important to understand. There is 111 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: a devil's bargain between food and pharma. What's happening And 112 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: this really, when you think about it, shouldn't be too surprising. 113 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: But this is kind of a radical thought for the 114 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: medical industry. You know, literally you have leading doctors, the NIH, 115 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: leading journalists saying it confusing. Why there's epidemics of childhood 116 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: obesit It's actually not complicated. It's because of food. It's 117 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: because sugar consumption that's number one, has gone up one 118 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: hundred x and one hundred years. You know, parents, and 119 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: I come with this from with a new child. You know, 120 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: you might hear him in the background. Here we've got 121 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: a one year old and looking at the world he's 122 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: going into this decks are stacked against these kids, even 123 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: for really well meaning parents. It's one hundred times more 124 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: sugar than we eate one hundred years ago, and I 125 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: think criminally. What's happening is we subsidize that from food stamps, 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: which fifteen percent of kids rely on for nutrition. The 127 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: number one item bought is soda. Seventy five percent of 128 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: food stamps funding goes to highly processed food, sugar, laiden foods. 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: That's not no other country does that. I you know 130 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: some of the early tweets that that got some attention, 131 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: I worked for coke, trying to rig the system to 132 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: make sure that food stamps continued paying for coke. Again, 133 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: it's the number one item purchase. Ten percent of all 134 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: food stapp snap funding goes to sugary drinks. I mean, 135 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: this is criminal. We're actually funding metabolic dysfunction of our children, 136 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: which is leading to trillions of dollars of downstream health impacts. 137 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that ninety percent of grain 138 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: subsidies and agriculture substies wholly go to grain sugar, which 139 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: turns in hygh to fruit, dut corn stup basically the 140 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: ingredients of highly processed food, and only zero point four 141 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: percent of our agriculture substies go to fruits and vegetables. 142 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: That's totally because of a rig system. We give mores 143 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: of gud I think it. 144 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: I think it goes beyond even what you're saying, because 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: my kids will watch YouTube and then they'll say, oh, 146 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: I Mom, we have to go to Starbucks and we 147 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: have to get this drink and it's filled with all 148 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: of these syrups and they will list off to me. 149 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: There is very little actual drink in this. It is 150 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: all sugar and it's just pushed on them. And it's 151 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: not so much that they want that, it's that it's 152 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: exciting someone else is doing it. They want to be 153 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: like this influencer that they've seen. They want to be 154 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: like everybody else. And so food has become this way 155 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: to be like everybody else, and you want to take 156 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: a picture with it, and you want to post it, 157 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: and you want to show your friends, like what I got. 158 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: Food has become an obsession. 159 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the criminal element. It's one of 160 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: the largest industries in the world. You have very very 161 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: smart people working at food companies, and I mean this 162 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: very literally. Food has been weaponized, you know, increasingly, and 163 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: again this shouldn't be too shocking, but it's worth knowing. 164 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: Brain scans of kids on sugar, the dopamine areas the brain. 165 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: It is no different than illicit drugs. You know, there's 166 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: a there's an addictive dopamine response. And I think throughout 167 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: American history, throughout American medical history, just because something's been 168 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: normalized does not mean we've completely lost our way. Of course, 169 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: doctors used to smoke in the office in the fifties 170 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: like this. This is, in my opinion, the biggest issue 171 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: in the world that we have gotten kids lely addicted 172 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: through rampant marketing and the fact that this is so 173 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: available that they literally have a dopamine addiction starting at 174 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: one or two years old when you look at kids 175 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: birthday parties and then in a way, and this is 176 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: kind of my point. In a way, this kind of 177 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: makes sense from the food industry's perspective, right. The food 178 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: industry wants to make food cheaper and more addictive. And 179 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: the big unholy trinity of ingredients, just to lay that out, 180 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: is added sugar. As we talked about added sugar, processed 181 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: sugar really is an invention of the past one hundred 182 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: and twenty years. Our body is not made to handle this. Additionally, 183 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: the main source of American fats now, which are inflammatory 184 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: and have addictive qualities are called seed oils. Those were 185 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: invented by John Rockepoe in the early nineteen hundreds as 186 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: an industrial byproduct to oil production. It's the number one 187 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: source of America fats now didn't exist for in one 188 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty years and then processed scrain, so highly 189 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: processed grains actually recreated after nineteen hundred, just in the 190 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: past one hundred and twenty years. The processing is taking 191 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: the five off. You know, for almost all of human 192 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: history it was whole grains. The whole grain is the 193 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: fiber which blunts the glucose impact of the rest of 194 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: the grain. Now the processing takes that fiber off. These 195 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: are frankin foods, robbed of nutritional value that actually are 196 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: hidden sugar and highly addictive too. So seventy five percent 197 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: of American diet right now is ultra processed food, which 198 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: basically those three ingredients of the core ingredients for added sugar, 199 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: highly processed grains and seed oils. If you look at 200 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: any package, you'd be shocked at what American ingenuity can 201 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: do with those ingredients. 202 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 3: But they're addictive, so in a way, so you can 203 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: see as a mom, this is very intimidating for me, 204 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: because you're telling me things that don't I don't understand 205 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: how to get away from it. To be honest, I 206 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: think I'm hearing what you're saying, and it just makes 207 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: me panic because I think I use that. I mean, 208 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: my kids eat food, dies, my kids eat sugar. They 209 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: were getting the thing that's easy to put in the lunch. 210 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: I mean they have fruits and vegetables every day too. 211 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: But there's what else am I putting in there that 212 00:10:59,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: I don't even know? 213 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: So I think this has got some top down solutions, 214 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: but I think there is a bottoms up revolution happening. 215 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, from conservative media to independent media. 216 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 2: The mainstream media unfortunately isn't talking about this because they're 217 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: number one advertiser as pharma, which we can get into 218 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: and food is a big one. But independent media left 219 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: right to everyone's talking about this. Tucker Carlson, who are 220 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: actually talking regularly, and he's doing regular segments on sugar, 221 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: which I never would have expected, you know, from everyone, 222 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: Glenn back. So it's just like, you know, it's so 223 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: gratefully you're talking about this. There's something resonating with audiences 224 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: and with parents, and I think this is the trend 225 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: we need to raise and as far as what parents 226 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: could do, this is this is how I would explain it. 227 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: I think you've got to trust your own judgment first 228 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: and foremost. I think this is where it gets to 229 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: the devil's bargain where we're getting sick because of food. 230 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: But we have to understand one simple fact is that 231 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: the medical system has been silent about this fact. We 232 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: have to understand the medical system is not incentivized for 233 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: us to be healthy. Their incentivized or to be sicker 234 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: for longer periods of time but not die. The ninety 235 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: five percent of costs in the medical system are driven 236 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: by management of chronic conditions. And what happens when when 237 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 2: those twenty five percent of kids who have pre diabetes. 238 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent of people with pre diabetes have at 239 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: least one other comorbidity, one other chronic condition. Eighty percent 240 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: people with diabetes have at least three. So when you 241 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: have this analog dysfunction obesity starting in childhood, now those 242 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: are kids that are in the system inevitably not learning 243 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: how to eat better or move better, but just are 244 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: going to be on you know, high blood pressure medications. 245 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: You know millions of kids are on stads now met Foreman, 246 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: you know SSRIs. Inevitably fifteen percent of kids are on 247 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: add medication, which is highly related all this. So you've 248 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: got it's not a typical when you go to a 249 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: high school that most of the children there are on 250 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: multiple treatment plans. These are all related to the same thing. 251 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: They're all related to food, but we've segmented that thing. 252 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: So you're being funneled into a situation where there's complete, 253 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: actual silence. Where you know, my sister who goes, you 254 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: know to Stanford med School and brings up a dietarian intervention, 255 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: you know, when she's treating someone with a migraine, she's 256 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: told she's reprimanded, she's reprimanded and said by her attending 257 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: surgeon at Stanford that she didn't go to dietary school. 258 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: That that that talking about diet interventions and exercise. That's 259 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: how doctors are trained because they profit off. They wash 260 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: their hands of why everyone's getting sick, and they treat 261 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: you once you're sick. And I just real quick, you know, 262 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: when you get to kids. What we've also had is 263 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: a shameful cole mingling of food and medicine. The Coca 264 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: Cola I oversaw. I saw this when I was working 265 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: for them, has donated millions of dollars the American Academy Pediatrics, 266 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: the American Diabetes Association has accepted millions of dollars from coke, 267 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: and there's no statement about that. The American Diabetes Association 268 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: several years recommended small cans of coke as a good 269 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: move for diabetics. So you've had a complete moral lapse 270 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: where not only are they are the medical institutions silent 271 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: on food being the issue, they're actually partnering. You know, 272 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: the majority, the majority of pediatric wards in the United 273 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: States to this day have full strength sugar coke of 274 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: vending machines, which is a huge you know, there's just 275 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: there's very little discussion of this because the system makes 276 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: money when people are sick. And the message for parents 277 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: is to understand this and to question when the American 278 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: Academy mediatrics are saying the first thing your kid should 279 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: is processed grains. 280 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. 281 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast. I have 282 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: a friend who calls it sick care instead of healthcare, 283 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: because she says this is not we shouldn't be calling 284 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: it healthcare when it's not making you healthy. 285 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: And I think this resonates with me. 286 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm a person who is diagnosed with breast cancer at 287 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: thirty eight answer in my family no history of breast cancer, 288 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: and everybody kept saying sugar, sugar, kept coming up, sugar, sugar, sugar, 289 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, should. 290 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: I go back? 291 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: I mean it could I if I went back, could 292 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: I have avoided it? And what can I do to 293 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: help my kids avoid it? But instead of any companies 294 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: out there trying to help you to even I'll say 295 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: even when I had cancer, trying to find a diet 296 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: that is for cancer patients, it's very challenging to find 297 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: someone who will even talk to you about how you 298 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: should eat as a cancer patient because they're like, no, no, no, no, no, 299 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: let's do the healthcare part of it and go to 300 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: big pharma. And then this latest development where we have 301 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: people that are taking ozembic to lose weight, and this 302 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: becomes and I'm telling you, even people in my family 303 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: have called and said I'm going to get on this, and. 304 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: I say this, you have to be on the rest 305 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: of your life. Do you even know what the side 306 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: effects are? 307 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: Are you so desperate for that quick fix, and I 308 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: think that that is true. So many people are so 309 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: willing that now they came out and said they're going 310 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: to do it to kids. 311 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. Twelve years and well a couple a couple 312 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: of things here, and you know, thank you for sharing 313 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: that story about breast cancer and cancer is the real 314 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: reason I got into this. My mom was one of 315 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: the fifty percent of Americans who dealt with pre diabetes 316 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: and had blood sugar disregulation and silent resistance, and she 317 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: abruptly had a pain in her side in twenty twenty one, 318 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: went to the doctor, realized she had stage four pancreatic 319 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: cancer and it was perfectly healthy before died eleven days later. 320 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: And that's what really inspired my sister and I on 321 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: this mission, because again at Stanford Hospital, we were told 322 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: by the head of ancology that this was unlucky. And 323 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: I have a very simple message and this should be 324 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: shouted from the rooftops of every medical institution. Cancer isn't random. 325 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: To a large degree. The inner connectiveness between breast cancer, 326 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: pancreatic cancer, other leading forms of cancer, and metabolic dysfunction, 327 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: which is tied to food, inevitably you know years before 328 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: if your doctor, you know, really analyzed your fast and 329 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: glucose and other biomarkers, there's warning signs to these things. 330 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: And I will say, you know, a large degree of 331 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: breast cancer and this is this is this is published widely. 332 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: It's not talked about, but it's it's not controversial as 333 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: highly preventable. Cancer is a preventable condition to most degrees, 334 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: but we spend fifty times more on curing it once 335 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: somebody gets it than preventing it. 336 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, forest, but how do we get 337 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: to the how do we get to the preventing? Because 338 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: first of all, I'm so sorry about your mom. I 339 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: lost my dad to pancreatic cancer in June, so I 340 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: know I mean in that it's sedest sentence the minute 341 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: you hear. And the and the crazy thing is that 342 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: my grandmother, his mother, died of pancreatic cancer. 343 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: And they said no connection. 344 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 3: And I will tell you that interestingly, my grandmother had 345 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: a total coke obsession, a Coca cola obsession. She drank 346 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 3: a Coca cola, several Coca colas every single day. And 347 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 3: they there was one doctor that said, I mean it 348 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: may have been related to the sugary drinks that she drank. 349 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: But you're telling me right now, which I have to say. 350 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 3: I think that there are probably so many cancer patients 351 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: like me that are listening to you and saying, but 352 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: how do I get there? Because I go every six months, 353 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: they don't take my blood, they don't do any tests. 354 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: They go, oh, yeah, you look okay. Well I looked 355 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: okay when I had cancer. No one would have known 356 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: by looking at me that I had cancer. So how 357 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: do you get these these pre tests done? Where do 358 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: you go? 359 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Knowledge is power, So you've got to really understand 360 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: your blood test. My SOFI are im actually writing a 361 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: book right now where we're really analyzing. You know, you 362 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: go and you get the fasting insulin, you get the 363 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: tricholos rides, you get the HTL. Nobody understands what that 364 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: actually means. These are like warning signs of your cells malfunctioning. 365 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: And and there's basically an algorithm where it's like if 366 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: you're over a certain level that prescribe a stat and 367 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: prescribe form and you know, forty percent of men over 368 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: forty are just boom statin way way before the recommended levels. 369 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: There's signs of brewing metabolic dysfunction. When your doctor will say, 370 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: oh you're normal, You've really got and there's blogs on this, 371 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: there's you've got to be curious about your blood tests 372 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 2: and then I'd highly recommend going and you can go 373 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: to the Functional Medicine doctor website. But like like functional 374 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: medicine doctors can do a whole host of many other 375 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: tests and be much more knowledgeable to really giving you 376 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: a picture of what these tests actually mean for the 377 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: metabolic dysfunction brewing with in your body. You know, my 378 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: sister read who's now a metabolic health expert and a physician, 379 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: read my test two years ago when the doctor said 380 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: all my cholesterol levels were fine, and she actually explained 381 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: to me how I'm eminently you know, at risk for 382 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: metabolic dysfunctioning will live a more painful, shorter life and 383 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: actually explain that to me. That was a big motivator 384 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: for me, and I think I think people want to 385 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: be healthy. My mentor and our investor in our company, 386 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: doctor Mark Hyman, who's are in fourteen New York Times 387 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: best selling books. He's been doing a lot of the 388 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: media circuit on this recently. He's a hero. He has 389 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: a new company called function Health just as a very 390 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: tactical recommendation. Function Health, which basically brings this you know, 391 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: boutique functional medicine experience into tries to democraze that it's 392 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: very low price. You just go to your local blood 393 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: place and it does over one hundred biomarkers and really 394 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: gives you a very systematic So I think knowledge is power. 395 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: I do think biowearables are very important early stage, but 396 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: tutor in twenty States the United. 397 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: States, what is bio wearables? 398 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: What are the wearables are? You know, with the early 399 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: stage with like you know, the Apple Watch and the 400 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: sleep monitors. My sister started a company called Levels Health, 401 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: which prescribes as CGM a continuous glue coost monitors. You 402 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: can actually see what your gluecost levels are as you're eating. 403 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: You know, I I thought my oatmeal every morning was 404 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: very healthy, but it was shooting me up to diabetic levels. 405 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: I realized that if I slept for six hours, I'd 406 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: actually have pre diabetic levels of bluecoasts, whereas I slept 407 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: eight hours, I'd manage it much better. You actually can 408 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: arm yourself with more information. I think there's more and 409 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: more of these things coming online. I think we're early, 410 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: but I think over the next ten years, we're actually 411 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 2: going to have, you know, a real understanding of what's 412 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: going on in our body. It's just going to say, 413 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: you know, in twenty US states to this day, patients 414 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: don't even legally own their medical records. There is a 415 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: systematic effort by the medical system to basically keep patients 416 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: in the dark. And it's shameful because you know, we're 417 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: being told to trust the science and trust the medical 418 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: system when it's been a systematic failure and just we're 419 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: going all over at one point, I just want to 420 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: make for patients because I think we're gaslated a little bit. 421 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: And this just gets into kind of how we should 422 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: all think about it. I think this was me a 423 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: while ago. Right, It's like, well, the American medical systems, 424 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: you know, great, it's produced a lot of miracles, life expects. 425 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: He's gone up. I really would draw a differentiation. Any 426 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: miracle medical miracle we can think about was most likely 427 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: started before nineteen sixty and it's for an acute issue, 428 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: something that would kill us imminently. You know, an antibiotic 429 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: for infection, emergency surgical procedures for like an appendix. You know, 430 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: complicated childbirth interventions, which are very important. You know, things 431 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: like that. We've actually shifted all almost all medical to 432 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: chronic conditions, which has been a disaster. You know, the 433 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: more stands we prescribed, the more heart disease goes up, 434 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: the more met form and we've prescribed, the more diabetes 435 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: goes up, the more SSRIs we prescribed, the more you know, 436 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: depression has been skyrocketing going back. 437 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: So that I want to ask about because I have 438 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 3: folks in my family who are on SSRIs who have 439 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: experienced that that moment where if you skip a dose, 440 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: you end up in a very dark place. 441 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: And I think it's it's. 442 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: A lot of people who who don't deal with this, 443 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: They don't understand the impacts of this on your brain 444 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 3: and how it can trick your mind. And I'm just 445 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: wondering when we as we see this violence, as we 446 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: see some of these people that seem to break and 447 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: do something that shouldn't, we have some knowledge of whether 448 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: or not this goes back to big pharma. 449 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: Oh, a disordinate of You know, there's huge correlations between violent, 450 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: violent folks and essurizes ssrise are. It's not controversial they 451 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 2: increase aggressive behavior, they increase suicidal ideation. So I'm not 452 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: going to make a blank blanket statement about SSRIs categorically 453 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: being wrong. But right now, twenty five percent of women 454 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: in the United States, adult women are on an SSRI. 455 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: It's the most prescribed drug in the country. It's a 456 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: massive societal factor, and I would liken it just to 457 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: tie it a little bit to a zimpic, these drugs 458 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 2: that are lifetime treatments that don't actually cure the problem 459 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: that like there's no stuck saying, you know, once you go, 460 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: as you said, once you go, it's actually problematic. Once 461 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: you go off of these drugs, they're not curing anything. 462 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: They're essentially numbing. And same with those zimpic which now 463 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: we're there's a full court press to prescribe to eighty 464 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: percent of adults who are old way or obese. You know, 465 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: it's a huge problem once you go off. You know, 466 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: I think we're almost dealing and I think this ozembic 467 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: debate I've talked about, which really represents this dynamic with 468 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: with a lot of chronic these cures, we almost I 469 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: think it's a spiritual reckoning that we have right now 470 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: where we are like fundamentally like disaggregated from our bodies. 471 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: You know, we are sleeping three hours less than we 472 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: did one hundred years ago, you know, sedentary behavior. Right now, 473 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: eighty percent of twenty one year old aren't eligible to 474 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: twenty one year old males aren't eligible to join the 475 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: military because they're because of their fitness. You know, we're 476 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: putting kids in you know, sedentary environments. We're feeding ourselves 477 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: absolute crap. I mean like like that shouldn't be but 478 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: the and it's like these miracle cures and none of 479 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: the miracle cures have worked. You know, with ozimpics specifically, 480 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: it's a great case study because just taking the merits 481 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: of the drug itself, there's heavy lobbying of the f 482 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 2: t A. The FKA panel that actually recommended ozimpic is 483 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: literally doctors that are paid by the maker of ozmpic. 484 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: There's not conflict of interest laws even for the panels 485 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: that create the guidelines at the FDA or NIH guidelines. 486 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: So you literally have conflicted doctors obesity medicine doctors who 487 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: would profit greatly from having this lifetime treatment that they 488 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: can give patients. Right, and they created a test for 489 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: this drug where it did not take into account what 490 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: type of fat you were losing. It's now coming out 491 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: that the majority of the fat being lost in ozempic 492 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: is actually muscle mass, where people are actually gaining fat. 493 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: So zimpic is actually assing people to lose weight. Doctor 494 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: A Ta is pointing this out. This is actually astounding. 495 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I actually think the drugs is gonna be recalled. 496 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: But but but literally people are losing weight but getting fatter. Uh, 497 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 2: that is what the data is showing because muscle mass 498 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: is being decimated by a zipic. And not to get 499 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: two in the weeds here, but we talk about metabolic 500 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 2: dysfunction diabetes, which fifty percent of American pre diabetic diabetic 501 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 2: muscles are the glucose sponge. Like if you if your 502 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: muscle contracts, you're absolutely more prone to metabolic dysfunction. And 503 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: that's the problem with all these hacks, right like like 504 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: almost like spiritually in America lunging for these hacks and 505 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: not have and and frankly falling for a rig debate 506 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: where we have TikTok influencers paid by food companies saying 507 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: it's racist to you know, talk about someone's weight. We're 508 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: being kind of rigged here, like we got to get 509 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: just as a society culturally, we've got to get back 510 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: to basics where we're thinking about a child, thinking about 511 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: their body, thinking about their brain, and asking the basics 512 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: that grandma know about that, asking about how we can 513 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: encourage good sleep habbits, encourage them to eat better, you know, 514 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: encourage them to move. It's like if we don't don't 515 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 2: shift the four trillion dollars of healthcare from a sick 516 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: care system to that and it's not this fluffy preventative 517 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: thing like like like like exercising and eating correctly is 518 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: also the best way to to reverse. Once you have 519 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: a condition, you can reverse. 520 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: So you can't reverse it, yes you can. 521 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: You can. You can absolutely reverse diabetes from food interventions. 522 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: There's groundbreaking research. We've talked about cancer, how it's not 523 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: random diabete excuse me. Alzheimer's is now called type three diabetes. 524 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: There's I saw that. That shocking to me. 525 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: Also, And you won't have an Alzheimer's doctor, just as 526 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: the cancer doctors. They're not going to explain this to you. 527 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: But this is astounding research coming out and you know 528 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: there's protocols now it actually you know, dietary inventions and 529 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: fitness interventions that actually have been shown to reverse dementia, 530 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: which which nobody thought was possible. So so you know, 531 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: again that's not profitable. I think the last thing I've 532 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: just mentioned a lot of my friends in there, you know, 533 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: thirties forties are are facing autoimmune conditions which are skyrocketing, 534 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 2: like Crohn's disease and things like that. Yes, you know, 535 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: the standard of care for that is when you have 536 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: an on immune condition, comet the come into the office 537 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: you know, every week every two weeks the rest of 538 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: your life to get an injection. People can transform their 539 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: lives through dietary interventions. I've had friends with crones disease 540 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: who completely ignored the medical system, you know, really researched, read, 541 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: went down the rabbit hole on books, and they say they. 542 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: Never felt that they have to do it. It's so hard. 543 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: It's so hard if you have to do it. 544 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not making excuses, but I think that 545 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: it is. We are a society that wants that quick 546 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: fix and then once they get you, I mean, you're 547 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: talking about this weekly visit. It's the same with any 548 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: type of anxiety depression medication. And I'm not saying that 549 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: those are not helpful. But I think it's pushed so heavy. 550 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: Then in certain cases, like in our system, you have 551 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: to see the the psychologist every week or every two weeks, 552 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: and then the psychiatrist is simply a prescriber. They don't 553 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: talk to you. You see them once a month for 554 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: so now you so it's like at least three appointments 555 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: every month that you have definitely scheduled. 556 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: Once you're on a medication, Oh no zipic, Now you're. 557 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: Gonna have to see the obesity doctor, you know, to 558 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: get the represcriptions. It's it's a beautiful system for the system. Here. 559 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: Here's what I'd say to for the audiences is I 560 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: think there's been this cynicism about the American patient that 561 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: we've almost bought that that that kind of people are lazy, 562 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: people kind of want I don't think people have gotten 563 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: systematically lazier in the past, you know, forty years with 564 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: all these chronic conditions. So I think, you know, getting 565 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: back to like like, I think it does start with 566 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: our mindset, and we have not We don't have systematically 567 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: death wish as a country. We haven't gotten lazier. I 568 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: think Americans actually do want to be healthy. So you know, 569 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: just I'll just give a quick story. You know, my 570 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: mom when she had terminal cancer, we were, you know, 571 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: pushed into a bunch of interventions that would have kept 572 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: her in the COVID where we would be able to 573 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: see her. You know, we had, thankfully, my sister who's 574 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: new oncologists at Stanford, who cried to her about being 575 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: pushed into doing surgeries that weren't necessary. This is rampant 576 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: throughout hospitals. I think doctors actually do know that something's 577 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: very wrong. They got in for the right reasons, but 578 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: you know, patients aren't getting better. But thankfully with my 579 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: mom we had this, we had the wherewithal to say no, 580 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: we're going to go against the ancologist's advice. You know, 581 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 2: with our pediatrician now, who's saying literally they're giving us 582 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: American Academy a pediatrics dietary recommendations that basically recommend process food. 583 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying no to that. I actually think realizing that 584 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 2: when it comes to chronic conditions preventing specifically, the doctor 585 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: should not the medical system should not get the benefit 586 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: of the doubt. You know, everyone comes on these shows 587 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: and say, well, we'll consult your doctor, if you're trying 588 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: to prevent diabetes, reverse obesity, heart disease, you know, thinking 589 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: about your children and their chronic conditions. Do you have 590 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: to take things into your own hands. So that's the 591 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: bottoms up revolution. I am somewhat optimistic. A lot of 592 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: people are, you know, wearing the wearables. A lot of 593 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: people are listening everyone from you to Joe Rogan, to 594 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: health podcasts to the leading books in the country. Now 595 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: we're talking about this issue. So I do think there's 596 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: an appetite for people to wake up what we have 597 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: to eventually do. And I am meeting with a number 598 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: of members of Congress and there does seem to be 599 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: a lot of appetite for this. Where the rubber hits 600 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: the road at a top down perspective is that we 601 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: have to shift the incentives of healthcare to stop being 602 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: incentivized for people to be sick. That is the problem. 603 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: I think whenever you hear politicians talking about slightly reforming 604 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: like Medicare Part D or this, or that we have 605 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: to actually we do need some radical rethinking because every 606 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: single institution, pharmer companies, insurance companies who actually sent advise 607 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: for cost to go up hospitals, medical schools. Everyone wins 608 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: when more patients are sick, which is exactly what is happening. 609 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: Healthcare is the largest and the fastest growing industry in 610 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: the United States, producing worse outcomes. It's going to bankrupt 611 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: our country. Why I'm optimistic because there's a bottoms up 612 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: revolution which we're talking about right now, and mathematically this 613 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: can't go on. We are going to become, you know, 614 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: a fat, depressed, infertile. We're increasingly getting infertile and sick 615 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: population with healthcare costs literally bankrupting. You know, as an 616 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: economic and fiscal conservatives, we spend multiples more to care 617 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: for diabetes than the Defense Department. Like, what's bankrupting our country? 618 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: With's bankrupting the country. It's not even close. Like this, 619 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: the preventable metabolic dysfunction tied to food, that is it? 620 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: Like that is why the American experiment is going to fail. 621 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: So she think it almost and the only way is 622 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: to say, how do we incentivize institutions of health to 623 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: be healthy? And then it has to get to And 624 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: again I thought this would sound fluffy years ago, but 625 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: I really do think this has to be the answer. 626 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: It's kind of self evident. We have to think about 627 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: our food system. We have to think about how do 628 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: we create a food system, you know, getting to what 629 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: parents should feed their kids, think about what humans have 630 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: evolutionarily been designed to eat four thousands, you know, hundreds 631 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: of thousands of years. Like it's whole food. It's not complicated. 632 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. 633 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast. 634 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: I think just talking to you though. 635 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: I actually a week ago, I went out to lunch 636 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 3: with a girlfriend and she said, you know, I've got 637 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: this glucose monitor. And I had never I mean, maybe 638 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: I'm living in a cave. I don't know. I'd never 639 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 3: heard of this before, people that don't have diabetes wearing 640 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: this to see what is triggering. And she said, I'm 641 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: at risk. She'd done this, she said, I'm at risk 642 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: for this and this, and so I had this. She said, 643 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: I had it a couple of years ago, and then 644 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 3: I stopped during COVID and she said, I went to 645 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: my doctor and I asked them for one of these wearables, 646 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: and they said, well, you don't have diabetes, were in 647 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: no way, and they refused to give her one. So 648 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: she had to find a different kind of doctor. What 649 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 3: you were talking a what did you call this? 650 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so my sister had this the same experience. You know, basically, 651 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: our glucose levels are the Rosetta stone like like truly, 652 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: if you see those a little bad of whack, you 653 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: can take preemptive action to dramatically lower your chance of 654 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 2: getting breast cancer and other metabolic conditions down the road. 655 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 2: So my sister, you know, left the medical system starting 656 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: a company called Levels Health. So Level's Health has prescribed 657 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of glucose monitors through a telehealth process. 658 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 2: It is absolute, polutely like criminal that most doctors will say, well, 659 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: you don't need this here, let's think about you for 660 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: that statement. It's like, you're not diabetic. There's no medical 661 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 2: meaning to diabetes. It's an arbitrary that's an arbitrary number 662 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: along glucose. So you say it's not reversible, there's no 663 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: there's nothing that happens physiologically when you get to the 664 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: glucose blood glucose level of diabetes. It's just arbitrary. We're 665 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: all on a spectrum of blood sugars regulation. If you 666 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: took anyone's blood right, ninety three percent of Americans would 667 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 2: have one biomarker in their blood of metabolic dysregulation. Right now, 668 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: we're systematically metabolic and dysfunctional because of food, which is 669 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: the root of almost every disease. It's the root of 670 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: eight of the ten leading killers of Americans. So having 671 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 2: a closed loop and actually understanding that you might learn 672 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: that you actually have some slightly elevated just standing glucose levels. 673 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: You also might learn, as I did, that specific foods 674 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: and actions impact your glucose. These are these are literally 675 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: like from a top down human competitive public policy standpoint, 676 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: everyone should be prescribed a c GM and being encouraged 677 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: to understand. So anyway, that's what my sister's company, Levels 678 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: Health is solving, and I highly encourage you could just 679 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: go on Levels Health and get a CGM right away. 680 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of great content. She's doctor Casey 681 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: means she's she's speaking out about this. My company. I 682 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: think another way to solve it is and I talked 683 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: about we've got to shift money from drugs to food. 684 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: What I found is that you can actually use tax 685 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: advantage medical spending HSA F s A. You can actually 686 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: buy food just as you would buy a drug with 687 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: tax advantage. Yeah, so so according to the IR even 688 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: though Pharma, you know, working for them and seeing this 689 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: that they you know, they they they spend five times 690 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,959 Speaker 2: more on lobbying than the oil industry. They've rigged every 691 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 2: health law. But they can't write the law that a 692 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: medical expense is a manufactured pill created by advisor. The 693 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: definition of medicine is something a doctor says is useful 694 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: in preventing reversing condition, and that can be food. And 695 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: if a doctor substantiates in a note that eating a 696 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: certain dietary meal, and it gets to your point, I 697 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: think a lot of Americans just want to know what 698 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: to do if a doctor actually writes that in a note, 699 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: and how that could be useful to preventing, you know, 700 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: pre diabetes. If that's what your CGM is showing, then 701 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: you can actually buy food tax free with your HSAFSA accounts, 702 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 2: which I think is a good policy instrument. You can 703 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: buy your gym membership. And what we're doing and why 704 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: I'm kind of on the warpath on this is that 705 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: I will put a food intervention and regular exercise up 706 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: against the stat and met form and even in SSRI 707 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty minutes of exercise a week for 708 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: three months is clinically proven to lower depression more effectively 709 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 2: with less side effects than the leading SSRI. Nobody knows that, 710 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: nobody's told that, So we're writing that in notes through 711 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 2: a telehealth process too, and enabling folks to if they're 712 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: qualified to purchase food, exercise supplements, things like that, you know, 713 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 2: tax free pre income tax, which starts leveling the playing 714 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: field of this rig system where the ingredients of a 715 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: Coca Cola, you know, are so subsidized that a coke 716 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 2: at a store is less expensive than a water because 717 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 2: there's so much less subsidized ingredients from a rig system. 718 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 2: We're trying to level that playing field. 719 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: Wow, this has been fascinating. 720 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 3: I am so glad that you agreed to come on 721 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 3: and talk on the podcast today because I learned so much, 722 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 3: and I know that people listening will go to Truemed, 723 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 3: they'll go to Level's Health. 724 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: We're going to check it out because it is so important. 725 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: It really is. 726 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 3: I mean, as we see everybody in our families getting sick, 727 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 3: because it's true, everybody has somebody that they've seen go 728 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 3: through this, and I think it really has awakened us. 729 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: To say what can we do to change? And you 730 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: are offering that when you write the book, you got 731 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 3: to come back. 732 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 2: Oh we'd love to. We'd love to. And I'm so 733 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: grateful again that we're talking about and again it's my 734 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 2: journey as a parent. I think we're all making mistakes, 735 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 2: but just learning. I think that's what's great about life. 736 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: And just the one other thing i'd close with, I'm 737 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: very excited about our book. But if people are just this, 738 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 2: it's just being curious. I think doctor Mark Hyman going 739 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: through some of his books, doctor Robert Lustig. I mean, 740 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 2: I've talked to so many people just kind of going 741 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 2: down the rabbit hole. To me, it's a key to 742 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: happiness is just learning about this stuff and learning about 743 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 2: your body and being curious about what your kids are eating, 744 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: and just grateful to talk about it. 745 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: Well, you made me curious because I saw your post 746 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 3: on Twitter. So how can other people follow you on Twitter? 747 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? So CALLI means on Twitter And it's never been 748 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 2: the biggest Twitter fan. But I'll tell you, the last 749 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 2: six months has been really, really fulfilling. Actually just just 750 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: literally probably a thousand or more parents, I think parents 751 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: or even people that aren't parents, but I think there's 752 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 2: really people that are concerned about future generations, their parents 753 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: out their health. It's been, it's been amazing. So I'm 754 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: trying to expose this this stuff and and and share 755 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: what I've learned. So Callie Means. And then my company's 756 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: true med dot com. And yeah, not not not trying 757 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: to pitch pitch my thing too much, but but it is. 758 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: It is the result of I'm really thinking deeply about 759 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 2: this and trying to change incentives and and enable people 760 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: to save on healthy food. So true mad dot com 761 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: we're launching soon. And uh yeah, those are the two 762 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: big ones. 763 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Calli Means. You've been wonderful. 764 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 3: You allow us to be vulnerable about this, and I 765 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: think that's why so many people are drawn to what 766 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 3: you're doing, and you just are. You can hear the 767 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 3: passion in your voice. I am so grateful to you, 768 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 3: because honestly, it's something that I didn't know, I didn't 769 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 3: know how to talk about. I mean, it really has been. 770 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 3: It's one of those things where you see you can 771 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 3: physically see kids in the classroom, you can see your 772 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 3: own kids changing in shape and size, and say to yourself, 773 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 3: what am I doing, and so this was very important 774 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: to me. 775 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tutor, thank you, and thank you all for. 776 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 3: Joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast for this episode. 777 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 3: As always or others, go to Tutor Dixon podcast dot 778 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: com and you can subscribe right there. 779 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: Make sure you join us for the next podcast. Have 780 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: a great day.