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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers

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Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been an amazing last couple of months that we've

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Speaker 1: been going through so many davery and things that's amazing

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Speaker 1: out down the streets on the sickness is the what

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Speaker 1: do they call that, the uh the unseeable uh enemy

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Speaker 1: or something like that was talking about the COVID, And

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Speaker 1: I think that it's just different to to sit here

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Speaker 1: and now be in studio and kind of be you know,

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Speaker 1: not six ft but close to six ft. I guess, oh,

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Speaker 1: we've all been sick in here, and it's like coming

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Speaker 1: here at your own risk. And we're sitting on a

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Speaker 1: table point you know what, as we bring guests. If

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Speaker 1: you want to come were then fuck it. Come If

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Speaker 1: you don't, you know what, we could skype you in

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Speaker 1: no big deal. You know. Joe, I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's different for me because you know, my mom

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Speaker 1: made some valid points and she's telling me, she's like look,

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Speaker 1: because it's not about you know, the person that's not

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Speaker 1: afraid of getting sick. It's about the person that's older

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Speaker 1: that may get sick and actually die, or someone that

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Speaker 1: to somebody that's outer that So those those things, you know,

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Speaker 1: be conscious out there, be safe. You know it's cannabis

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Speaker 1: talk one on one. We want to share something with you. Um,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande is here and he just got some new

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Speaker 1: size thirty six pants. He's fitting in thirty six. Is

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Speaker 1: it's amazing? No, No, I've lost a few pounds of

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Speaker 1: recognizing but I'm a few more than a few months

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Speaker 1: away from a thirty six. Thirty eight I can squeeze into,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna take me more than a month or

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Speaker 1: so to get into a thirty six. And as I

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Speaker 1: say that, you're you don't know what you're doing. You're

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Speaker 1: hurting Pitt over there. Pitt, who works our show, is

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Speaker 1: sitting there looking at me maddest. There's no way I'm

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Speaker 1: heavier than Joe grand He even said dog one day,

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Speaker 1: I like a week after we did a show, and

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Speaker 1: not about fifty. He hits me like a weekly. He's like, Man,

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Speaker 1: I had to go home and wait myself, going, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, if Joe, Joe has been eating good, damn it.

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Speaker 1: I got on the scale and I'm heavier than you, Joe,

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Speaker 1: and I'm shorter than you. Damn it. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: I was bigger than you. Like COVID adds some weight.

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Speaker 1: Mirror you looking into your brothers. When I look at you,

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Speaker 1: I think you're bigger than me, just shorter. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: we got an amazing show for you guys. Today. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to some veterans right here about the cannabis

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Speaker 1: Talk one on one. My man Chris right here. Mr

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Speaker 1: Blue is at one Christopher right I am at Joe

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Speaker 1: Grande fifty two. And today we're gonna talk to Jeremy

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Speaker 1: who's a military vet who used cannabis for and using

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Speaker 1: cannabis for PTSD. But first off, Jeremy on behalf of

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Speaker 1: want to sincerely thank you for your service and what

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Speaker 1: you've done to serve our country. Greatly appreciate you doing that.

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Speaker 1: Right on, Thank you so much. But let's jump into it. Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: First of all, what were you in the military. So?

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Speaker 1: Right right, Well, I'll tell you from my personal experience,

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Speaker 1: so now now you get to you when to Iraq?

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Speaker 1: or they were being threatened for working with us. Did

425
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 1: home ever be m a a uh dangerous place there,

426
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: meaning like wherever you're building there, Like did it was

427
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: there a point where you felt like, oh gosh, like

428
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: we're in danger, you know, or did you just feel

429
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: good and comfortable the whole time? Was it nice? Yeah?

430
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're always on edge, but that

431
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: fob Duke is where we were at. That specific base

432
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: had a long road to get to us. So we

433
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: were in the middle of nowhere. So where your base

434
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: camp was. Yeah, so that when you're living in that building,

435
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: in the building, I mean you're in the city. Yeah,

436
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: and you can get got by four directions easy, they're

437
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: just driving. We're in the city, we're on we're on

438
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: their territory. So um, we were we there was like

439
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 1: one significant incidents where the Special Forces came and how

440
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: to evacuate us out of the building. Because there's just

441
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff going on and they're you know,

442
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: they showed up. And when they show up and say leave,

443
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 1: you leave. And we went and we stayed on their

444
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: compound for a few days because there's something real big

445
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: going on, and they brought us to their compound because

446
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: there was no base around us when we moved to

447
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: that city in the job. We did that because we

448
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: handed over fob duke to the local Iraqis and so

449
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: my team was on the rooftops. They had this whole ceremony,

450
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: handed it over to the local Iraqis. Then pretty much

451
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: the entire base evacuated except for us. They left us

452
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: there and so that was that alone is already like

453
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: a little nerve racking because they gave us a beacon

454
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget this, and I didn't really dawn

455
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: on me until later on, but they gave us a

456
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: beacon and they said, if you get attacked, the last

457
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: person alive can set this beacon off and we'll send

458
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: in you know, every support and help and so um,

459
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: they left us send it in the first time as

460
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: soon as we get attacked. But yeah, I mean it was,

461
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I didn't like even being

462
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: there because I was only eighteen nineteen years old, even

463
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: being there in that like moment in time, I still

464
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: wasn't like I don't know if it was just me

465
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: blocking out where I was or what I was doing

466
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: out there, But I still wasn't fully comprehending, like like

467
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: the realities, I can die any second any time. I

468
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: knew it sucks any man. I knew I was miserable,

469
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, what am I doing? Here? Is it?

470
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: When you got home and got older, a little older,

471
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: I started to think about that, I started to affect

472
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: you more, like, for how does the PTSD did you

473
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: feel it coming? Where did you get? As you say that,

474
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: I could only imagine mentually you're taking me there, and

475
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: I'm going, funk. I was a young eighteen year old kid.

476
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: When I'm twenty two, I'm going, what the funk? Was

477
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: I thinking? Like? How does it affect you? How did

478
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: you know you needed help with PTSD? So I didn't

479
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: know that I needed help. Everyone around me knew I

480
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: needed help. And it started off you here with most

481
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: military cats, I mean, they're trying to tell you, man,

482
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: you're not being yourself. Yeah, you know when we came back,

483
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: you still need help. I'm just kidding. Yeah, we all do. Yeah,

484
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: you know you're being an asshole. Don't talk about my journey.

485
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: And then if you were staring at him right now,

486
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: you'd be like, I can't even tell to look at

487
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: his neck whatever either way, but go ahead. How did

488
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: you know? So when we came back, me and my buddies,

489
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: we partied hard, like more drinking and partying and just

490
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: just and at the time, I thought I was just

491
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: having a good time. I just thought it was fun,

492
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: you know. I didn't even think like having PTSD or

493
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: any sort of like you know, issues at all. It

494
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: wasn't even a thought. And then it wasn't until I

495
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: left Texas came home and I couldn't stop. I couldn't

496
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: stop what. I couldn't stop drinking. My drinking was off

497
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: the charts, and everybody was like, you got a drinking problem,

498
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: you got a drinking problem. And I'm like thinking, I'm

499
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: looking at him, and I remember feeling in my brain,

500
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: like feeling in my heart like no, I don't like

501
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: I just like to have fun, like you guys are

502
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: out of your mind. I just like to have I'm

503
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: not abusing it. I'm just having fun, right, Yeah, well

504
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: that's what I think. You know, yea is so people

505
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: used to tell me to one years plus later they

506
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: were rights. Yeah, and uh, you know, it took me

507
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: losing everything to like I had nowhere to go, lost

508
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: my job, my family didn't want me around. And you

509
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: think it was all due to drinking. Yeah, I was

510
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: due to drinking and just not. I just didn't trust anybody.

511
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't trusting people around me. I didn't trust the

512
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: people that loved me, you know, I wasn't so I

513
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: didn't trust them. One they would tell me something, I

514
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: just was like blowing it off. I didn't trust anyone,

515
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: you know. And then uh, and then I noticed I

516
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: was like paranoid all the time. And I realized that

517
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: when I used to go party and hang out with

518
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: all my army buddies, I didn't even realize that like

519
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: we were a group. I felt comfortable, I felt safe.

520
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: I had six of my boys with me. I was like,

521
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: nothing's gonna happen, And nothing ever did happen. You know,

522
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: we always had a good time, We never had any issues. Um,

523
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: but I started going out to these really just jankie

524
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: dive bars by myself and just finding myself in these

525
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: really stressful situations. We're gonna vasseling on your little back. Sorry,

526
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm reminiscing of my stories to I apologize. Here we go,

527
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: he help me gets over. Yeah, I remember that day.

528
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: What could just happened there? That's how I met Blue.

529
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: That was Boom, not Blue. There. You have a little

530
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: correction there for Joe, I got the condom hanging out. No,

531
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: don't get graphid about my story. He didn't use protections.

532
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: He called me rawd off Joe. But yeah, and he

533
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 1: it was it was what happened afterwards that made him

534
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: think about it. When we come back, Jeremy, let's break

535
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: real quick, come back and finished that story. Hold on, Jeremy,

536
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: let's let's just go right back. So you're you're back.

537
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: Your buddies are telling you you've got problems. You're like, no,

538
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't. You're digging and dive bars. Now it's going

539
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: to how bad and darker to get for It got

540
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: as low as I ever wanted to get in my life.

541
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: And like I said, nobody in my family wanted me around.

542
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: I had one. I had like a little bit of

543
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: extended family that was willing to accept me and pretty

544
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: much if it wasn't for them, might be living on

545
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: the street. But I mean I was sleeping in my

546
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: truck for a little while. You know, um, no job,

547
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, my my my tags were expired, my license

548
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: was inspired, no insurance, no job, like everything was just

549
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: falling apart, and uh, I remember, I don't remember the

550
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: exact day, but I remember at one point it was

551
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: like six thirty in the morning. I stayed up all

552
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: night waiting for the to be able to buy beer.

553
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: I stayed up all night because they start selling at

554
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: six in the morning, so I stay up all night.

555
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: It was like six thirty in the morning. I had

556
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: three thirty two ounce foot ices and fun of me,

557
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: and I remember drinking them, and I remember thinking, you

558
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: know what, like, I don't want to do this anymore.

559
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore. I don't like

560
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: I just I was sick and tired of being sicking, tired,

561
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: And uh, I began to you know, start to change

562
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: my life around. And I began to start looking forward

563
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: to work, and I started working, and um, what really

564
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: was kind of the icing on the cake was solidified

565
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: everything about changing my life was when my first daughter

566
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: was going to be born. So when I found out

567
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: that I was going to have a baby, that was

568
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: like the whole life, everything in life. It's like, my

569
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: whole world just spun around. And you were still drinking

570
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: at the time when I was still I was still drinking.

571
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm still partying, you know, And uh, can I get

572
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: close and say, what is partying? Is it? Lines? Yeah,

573
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing coke. You know, anything harder than coke, like

574
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: even meth or you know, so I did do meth

575
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: one time smoked it. I was pissed drunk and I

576
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: had no clue what it was or you know what

577
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: I was doing. Yeah, funny one. But I love a line.

578
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: Right now, I've just been sober. I still got my

579
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: labs and Bakersfield. Yeah, yeah, no. I I tried it

580
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: once and it was probably the worst experience in my life.

581
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 1: It was I but I completely understand how people can

582
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: get addicted to it. After the first time, I totally

583
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: get it, because it was about two or three days

584
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, maybe I could, maybe I

585
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: could smoke one more, Maybe I can do it again,

586
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, and trick, and I just kept telling myself.

587
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: I was like, don't do it. I was like, don't

588
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: do it, stay awayte it and never sit and then

589
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: I never touched it again and I never will. It

590
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: was just like I said, it was the worst experience.

591
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk cannabis now. And how did cannabis jump in

592
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: and say this is my savior? How does it like

593
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: help save your life? Because I've heard you say this

594
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: and I heard you talk about it. How does only

595
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: cannabis become the way? So it started off recreational, you know,

596
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: it was part of my drinking habits. You know, if

597
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: anybody had you know, good, but I'd smoke. And I

598
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: started to gradually just shift into smoking more and drinking less.

599
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: And then I started to sort of like dabble into

600
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: educating myself about it, and I started hearing more medical

601
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: things about it, and and sort of you know, just

602
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: in general. As time has gone on and information started

603
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: coming out and people started talking about the medical benefits,

604
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: I was like, hmmm, maybe this is something that is

605
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: like real, you know, maybe it's something that can help.

606
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: So I started looking into it more, and I honestly

607
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 1: think the mindset of willing to accept that it's now

608
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 1: medicine and that this is going to help me get

609
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: off of drinking or this will keep me off of

610
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: the different pills, you know, because the v A prescribes

611
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: you pills like candy as well. I was at first,

612
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: and um, they just make you They're like it's like

613
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: being drunk. They make you feel loopy. I have friends

614
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: that we're taking pills from the v A. And he

615
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: he had a caizure driving his car on the freeway

616
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: and now he has to take pills to help wing

617
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: him off those pills, to take them to tolling them

618
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: off those pills that I was sponsoring. He was in

619
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: the v A in l A and killed himself after

620
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: one year, and you know, thinking maybe it was the

621
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: pills that he was sober for this first year, older gentleman.

622
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: And it's still till this day, makes me wonder, going

623
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: what type of pills was he really on? Have no clue.

624
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: And it's just, I mean there's so many and and uh,

625
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's amazing how many different pills there are.

626
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: And I think I'm gonna dive into that fact. I'm

627
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: gonna find out how many pills are you know, are

628
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: prescribed yeah, period, I mean just for this, this, this, this,

629
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: and it's I mean all these different times. I mean

630
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: there's probably I can't even imagine that. Well, they do

631
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: a lot of somebody on here to talk about they

632
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: do a lot of um I think they call it

633
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: off label prescribing, So they'll prescribe you pills based on

634
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: the side effect. Is what is what your side effects

635
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: that you've had on the side effect of the side

636
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: effect of the pill? Yeah, like what do you want

637
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: to do? What's how bad do you want to go

638
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: down knead liver? You want to coin to come say

639
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: hello to you? Yeah? Some of what they're not even

640
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: prescribing it for what what that pill was meant for.

641
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: They're giving it to you because of the side effect,

642
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, Like like they were giving me so quill,

643
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: which is a mild seizure medicine, you know, and that

644
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: was to help me get sleep and stuff like that.

645
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have a history of seizures, but

646
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: it was a side effect, right, and then to help

647
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: you stay awake. Yeah, I don't think I had any

648
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: trouble standing awake. I was. I still stay awake a lot,

649
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: you know anyways, But um, cannabis has helped. Cannabis has

650
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: kept me off of all of it. Um, you know,

651
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: I after doing some research and learning, I felt way

652
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: more comfortable during the cannabis. You know, you can't get

653
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: addicted to it, you can't overdose on it. You know,

654
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: there's there's really I mean, the worst side effects I've

655
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: experienced it either sleeping too much or eating too much.

656
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: You think it'd be great if the people in the

657
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: military can use cannabis when they're off work. I think

658
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: it's I think it should be. I don't, I mean,

659
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: knowing what we know now, it's it just boggles my

660
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: mind because I mean, you could drink as much as

661
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: you want in the military. You can go to the bar,

662
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: you can buy you know, bottles and bottles. But the

663
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, you get addicted to it, people develop, you know, issues,

664
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: and then they start going through withdrawals, and then it

665
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: hinders their performance. You know, with cannabis, you know you

666
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: can you're not gonna have withdrawals. So then when you're

667
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: at work, you can be at work. You're not thinking

668
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: about you're not addicted to us, you're not thinking about smoking.

669
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: You just focus on your work. When you're off, you know,

670
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: you take your medicine, but drinking, you know, you develop

671
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: a drinking problem that starts to become you know, the

672
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: forefront of your thoughts. It's just scary to think what

673
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: so many people go through in the military that you

674
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: know when you're a young kid, especially when you enlist

675
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: that you said you were seventeen, and how many others

676
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: are out there, And I mean going back to previous

677
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: wards and watching movies of the Vietnam vets that came

678
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: back and being treated like ship, and in my opinion

679
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: still till this day, a lot of military vets get

680
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: treated like ship. Personally, I believe that. Look at the

681
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: way the vas I ran and how fucking horrible they are.

682
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: They can't get appointments. You can't get in there to

683
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: see somebody when you risk your life to serve. They

684
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: should have more than enough staff to support the fucking

685
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: veterans and they don't have it. And it's pathetic. Hold on,

686
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: let me let me see this the VA hospital and

687
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: I know from from personal experience, Okay, they do provide

688
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: a lot of service, So let's not just tear them down.

689
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they don't, but I'm saying to get

690
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: an appointment to get in there when you need help,

691
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: and I'm suicidal. Hold on, come by on Thursday and Friday.

692
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: You know what, if you're lucky, it is. It is

693
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: a service that they provide for a lot of veterans.

694
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: And you know, and my my father, my dad, my

695
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: dad died in the VA hospital. Um. You know, it

696
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: was there a lot of times where he was pissed

697
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: um and definitely you know, upset because of those reasons

698
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: or didn't get what he thought he should get or

699
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: whether he thought he was told he was gonna get when,

700
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, when when being a part of being a veteran.

701
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: At my point, they do so much. You're right, I

702
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: think they need to support it to have them do more. No,

703
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: I that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying what I'm

704
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: not saying they don't do enough. I'm saying our country

705
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: doesn't put enough in the v A to do everywhere.

706
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: You know, they need to do it more. What they're

707
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: doing is great. They need bigger budgets to do more

708
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: because the country doesn't take care of them as well.

709
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Them and teachers have always been my complaint on what

710
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: our country doesn't do right in my opinion. But it's

711
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: random that you know, you go to the v A.

712
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Did you ever have to go to the v A

713
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: and deal with your drinking. I mean, I went to

714
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: I've spoke at many A meetings at the VAS across

715
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: the lands, So I'm just wondering, did you did they ever? Ye,

716
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: you're looking at that, I did. I went to several

717
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: group meetings and um. The thing with my like with

718
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: the going to the v A too, is in a

719
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: way it's almost like they're kind of playing against you,

720
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: which makes it hard to be fully upfront with them,

721
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: because you know, we get rated on our disability and

722
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: then you get a certain amount of pay based on this.

723
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: So you can get you don't want to be honest,

724
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: you can get whatever it is, right. But let's say

725
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, you played football in high school and you

726
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: go to the military. You come out and you're like, oh,

727
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: my back's all messed up, and then they start interviewing you,

728
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: and now the doctors like, oh, so you played football

729
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: in high school. They try to use that to make

730
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: it more difficult to get your disability rating. So so

731
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: so you're like, I but I hurt myself, you know,

732
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: falling off of a tank while I was shooting and

733
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: the tank was and I twisted myself. Like come on,

734
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: but you're a line blacker for four years in high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

735
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: So I get what you're saying that that's a that's

736
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: a horrible thing to feel like, you know, and then

737
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: that that goes with physical and mental you know, if

738
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: you had some you know, broken family growing up, if

739
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: you had some issues growing up, you know, they'll ask

740
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: you like, how was your childhood? You know, how are

741
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: your parents how they treat you, because they want to

742
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: know if you had any prior mental that before they

743
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: started asking you of those questions or yeah that afterwards. No, No,

744
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: we we warn each other, you know, like I had

745
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: a couple of older vets, some Vietnam Vets, and they, yeah,

746
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: they kind of they warn you because it's like they

747
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: want to be they act like they're your friend, but

748
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: really you say the wrong thing or you know, the

749
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, you just shot yourself in the

750
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: foot and you're not gonna He got abused by his father,

751
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a history everyone, So so they

752
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: cut you from your benefits because it's like it's not

753
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: from wars, from his parents beating him. He said, it's

754
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: a dr so and so done exactly. So it kind

755
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: of makes it a little bit tricky. So you know,

756
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm part of you know, different outside of the

757
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: v A. I'm part of different you know, mental health groups.

758
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm part of different veterans groups. You know, I've met

759
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: a lot of online vets that I talked to you

760
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: that I've never met in person. But you know, we

761
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: can relate to each other even through online. So even

762
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: before the whole COVID lockdown thing, you know, there's an

763
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: online community that you can be a part of if

764
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: you need to. Well, let's do the high five with you, Jeremy,

765
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: as we'd like to do with all of our guests

766
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: that come on the show, and thank you for doing

767
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: your service in the Army. Question number one, how old

768
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: are you the first time you smoked? And where did

769
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: you get it from? I think I was about nine

770
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: or ten. Wow, so before you went to the army obviously,

771
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: so he did have issues before. He's a little stoner.

772
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: I stole it from my stepdad. Oh nice. Yeah, he

773
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: was a drawer. It wasn't his. It was in a

774
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: coin drawer. And he always had you know, a little

775
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: baggy and and I would just try to pinch off

776
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: a little bit here and there, and be kind of

777
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: weird to see if if you had a big hook

778
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: deal do in here, Like, wait a minute, here's a

779
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: pipe in a deal though, Mom, I wonder why you're limping.

780
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: That's a pipe, buddy, that's a pipe. It's not that

781
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: kind of that kind of happened at a friend's house

782
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: once and I was spending the night. Yeah, you up

783
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: woke up with it in your back pocket. Yeah, show

784
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: what is asked me? Put that our way with my friends.

785
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: Question number two of the High five with Jeremy z

786
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: Man Army fatigues wearing a guy right, what is your

787
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: favorite way to use cannabis? Blunt rolls? What kind of

788
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: twister that? The XXL nice? The big ones? Yeah, that's

789
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: what I heard about you. Question number three on the

790
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: High five Craziest place you ever smoked? Wet? Craziest place?

791
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: Um away? No? No, actually actually yeah, out. I think

792
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: maybe the craziest place was probably when I was in

793
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: the Army in our barracks. Oh so you were back

794
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: in the army and you spoke to me when you're

795
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: in the army when we came back every periodically we

796
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: would yeah, and uh, the military is getting high. Then

797
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: that's good. Here it was sketchy, you know, because we're

798
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: in the we're in the barracks and obviously like you

799
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: could smell it a mile away. Oh really, catch you smoking?

800
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: They're like, oh yeah, and I didn't know that. I

801
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: had a quick yeah, you know, I mean you're not

802
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: smoking blunt. You know you might hits in there. But

803
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, the barracks that we stayed in, we shared

804
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: one bathroom and shower in the middle with two rooms. No,

805
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: that's a crazy place to smoke. I mean, you're federally illegal,

806
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: you're That's a good one. That's a good first crazy.

807
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Question number four of the High five. What is your

808
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: go to munchy when you get hot almond milk and frosted?

809
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: It's the best thing ever, so good. I love it.

810
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: Cost go like every we said get yesterday. You love

811
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: a free pack of almond milk. Please proachin shakes everything else.

812
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: Question number five with the High five with a very

813
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: special military veteran who uses cannabis for PTSD, Jeremy. If

814
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: you could smoke with anyone dead or alive, who it

815
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: would it be? You know, honestly, I'd like to smoke

816
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: with my uncle Gil. He passed away when I was

817
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: about ten or eleven, and uh, all of his friends

818
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: and he's friends with I kind of like I'm in

819
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: his spot. So I hang out with a lot of

820
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: older gentlemen you know that were his friends growing up.

821
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: And uh, you know his name was Gil and he

822
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: had cancer and he died, and honestly, I'd like to

823
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: smoke with him. I smoked with my grandma. So how

824
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: did that come about? Grandma? How does grandma? Does she

825
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: pull out her statue? I've had him both. How did

826
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: that happen? Though? You know, we're at my aunt Marcy's house.

827
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: They had you know, my grandma lived with my aunt

828
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, she wasn't doing too good. She

829
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: was kind of sick, and so I just asked her, Grandma,

830
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: you know you're a smoke you want to smoke? And

831
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: she was she was like, well, I don't really know how,

832
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'll smoke with you. And I asked my ego,

833
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: can't we smoke in here? She's like, I guess, so

834
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: grandma said, so, So I rolled up a joint, you know,

835
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: and and me and my grandma share to Jay. Nice.

836
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: She still with us. She passed her ways, thank you,

837
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: So listen, you know, if you're a veteran out there

838
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: and you you know, have PTSD and you want to

839
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: share with it and be heard on I Heart Radio,

840
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: Apple podcast or whatever you get your podcast with Cannabis

841
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: Talk one on one, be sure to call us at

842
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: one night, leave a message, tell us your story about it.

843
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we'd love to hear how it's helped you

844
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: or how it hasn't helped you. Uh you know, if

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Speaker 1: Um you know, it's Cannabis Talk one on one. Thank

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