WEBVTT - Pioneering Fracking Company Chesapeake Energy Goes Bust

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<v Speaker 1>Chesapeake Energy says it is filing for Chapter eleven bankruptcy protection. Chesapeake,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the energy giant based out of Oklahoma City,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the fracking pioneers. The company, once employing about

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen thousand people across all its businesses, now down to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen hundred, with thirteen hundred working here at Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>Chesapeake Energy, the first big US fracking company, has filed bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 2>Chesapeake was a pioneer in the US fracking industry, helping

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<v Speaker 2>to turn the country into an exporterer for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in decades. In those early days, Chesapeake was run

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<v Speaker 2>by its larger than life co founder, Aubrey McLendon. Here

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<v Speaker 2>he is addressing Harvard students at the height of the

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<v Speaker 2>shale boom.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the last one hundred and fifty years, you've known

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<v Speaker 3>natural gas is good, but you haven't been sure about

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<v Speaker 3>its abundance. And in fact, from from my perspective, when

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<v Speaker 3>I started this company in nineteen eighty nine, I was

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years old. I didn't know where the future of

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<v Speaker 3>the industry was going. Certainly didn't know where natural gas

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<v Speaker 3>was headed. But we founded our company on the idea

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<v Speaker 3>that if we were to find our way in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to look at geology and engineering from a

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<v Speaker 3>different perspective than what the bigger companies were doing. We

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<v Speaker 3>had to go look for unconventional reservoirs. The conventional reservoirs

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<v Speaker 3>were basically locked up by the exxons of the world

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<v Speaker 3>and the larger independent companies. And so my partner and I,

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<v Speaker 3>who we had been partner since I was twenty three,

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<v Speaker 3>on a private basis, we decided to go found this

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<v Speaker 3>company with fifty thousand dollars and we had ten employees

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<v Speaker 3>at the time, and the idea was, let's go look

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<v Speaker 3>for natural gas in unconventional reservoirs, and at the time

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<v Speaker 3>that was mainly fractured carbonates. Today that's shale.

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<v Speaker 2>He sounds pretty tame there, but mcclinton's rep was that

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<v Speaker 2>he could sell shale to anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Clark Williams Dairy, and I'm an analyst

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<v Speaker 4>with AIFA, the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis.

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<v Speaker 4>So Aubrey mcclindon was kind of, you know, the quintessential

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<v Speaker 4>shale booster. He was somebody who whether to force a

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<v Speaker 4>personality or because he was just a true believer, or

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<v Speaker 4>he was just an incredibly good salesman. He got people

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<v Speaker 4>to invest in his company.

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<v Speaker 2>Shale wasn't an easy sell or, it turns out a

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<v Speaker 2>goodbye for anyone. That was true long before coronavirus hit

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<v Speaker 2>or oil and gas prices tanked. We've been covering COVID

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<v Speaker 2>related environmental rollbacks and bailout for fossil fuel companies with

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<v Speaker 2>our COVID Climate Tracker, and one sector that scored a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of government gifts is the shale industry. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, we talked about tax breaks, loans and credit

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<v Speaker 2>extended to shale companies as throwing good money after bad

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<v Speaker 2>And now here we are with Chesapeake, a company that

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<v Speaker 2>has benefited from COVID related royalty cuts and tax breaks,

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<v Speaker 2>declaring bankruptcy anyway, in a lot of ways, the story

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<v Speaker 2>of Chesapeake is the story of American shale gas. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get into that story right after this message

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<v Speaker 2>from today's sponsor. I Mimi Westervelt, and this is drilled.

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<v Speaker 4>He got people to invest in his company when he

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<v Speaker 4>was never ever able to produce positive free cash flow.

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<v Speaker 4>He's never actually able to squeeze money out of the wells.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very good at producing gas, but not but terrible

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<v Speaker 4>at producing profits. And that's something that I think has

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<v Speaker 4>actually been emblematic with the shale stry as a whole,

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<v Speaker 4>that it's an industry that's been phenomenally successful at producing

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<v Speaker 4>oil and gas, but has been terrible at producing cash.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Clark William's dairy again. He's run all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>numbers on Chesapeake, none of them good.

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<v Speaker 4>The company essentially burned through about forty one billion dollars

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<v Speaker 4>of cash, that is to produced negative free cash flows

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<v Speaker 4>of forty one billion dollars. And what that means is

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<v Speaker 4>that this is a company that spent forty one billion

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<v Speaker 4>dollars more on drilling, on getting access to underground gas reserves,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, all the things of going to running

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<v Speaker 4>a shell business. It's spent forty one billion dollars more

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<v Speaker 4>than it.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually generated by selling gas and oil.

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<v Speaker 4>It is racked up nine billion dollars worth of debt

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of twenty twenty, that had about nine

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<v Speaker 4>billion dollars worth of long term debt that was you know,

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<v Speaker 4>was supposed to get paid off soon. But the problem

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<v Speaker 4>for a company like this is how do you pay

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<v Speaker 4>off your debt when you're unable to produce positive free

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<v Speaker 4>cash flow.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just not possible.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't do it. And if you are consistently year

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<v Speaker 4>after year after year producing negative free cash flow, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no way for you to pay down your debt. In

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<v Speaker 4>some cases, there's no way for you to service your debt,

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<v Speaker 4>that is paid your interest payments. But in the case

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<v Speaker 4>of Chesapeake, I mean, what has become abundantly clear over

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<v Speaker 4>the past few years is that this is a company

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<v Speaker 4>that has no viable prospect for producing free cash flow

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<v Speaker 4>and as a result, has no viable prospect for actually

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<v Speaker 4>paying down its debt. And that's what really forces a bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right before it went bankrupt, of course, chess Peak gave

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<v Speaker 2>out more than twenty million dollars to its executives in bonuses. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a company that benefited from COVID relief. Just

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months ago. The company's current CEO, Robert

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas Lawler, blamed his predecessor for overspending. He claims that

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<v Speaker 2>that caused the bulk of Chesapeake stet. On top of

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<v Speaker 2>buying up every lanlease he could get his hands on,

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<v Speaker 2>McLendon did have a secret wine cave. He refused to

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<v Speaker 2>agree to budgets and apparently he had everyone flying around

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<v Speaker 2>on chartered jets. But we don't really know if that

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<v Speaker 2>was the entire problem because McLendon isn't around to defend himself.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to report that earlier today, at nine to

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<v Speaker 4>twelve am, the Oklhom City Police Department responded to a

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<v Speaker 4>fatality accident involving mister Aubrey McLendon.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty thirteen, shortly after he was ousted from Chesapeake

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<v Speaker 2>and the morning after he was indicted for allegedly rigging

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<v Speaker 2>oil and gas leases, McLendon drove his car into a wall,

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<v Speaker 2>speeding along an Oklahoma highway. By that point, Chesapeake had

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<v Speaker 2>also brought a civil case against its founder, accusing McLendon

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<v Speaker 2>of stealing trade secrets to go start his next venture,

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<v Speaker 2>American Energy Partners. Also around this time came out that

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<v Speaker 2>Chesapeake had given some twenty million dollars plus to the

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<v Speaker 2>Sea Club, which had helped it to perpetuate the bridge

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<v Speaker 2>fuel narrative around natural gas, the idea that to install

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<v Speaker 2>renewable energy at scale, you need something like natural gas

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<v Speaker 2>to help with the intermittency of renewables. It helped that

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<v Speaker 2>natural gas is a much lower carbon fuel and no

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<v Speaker 2>one wanted to talk about methane emissions at the time.

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<v Speaker 6>There were people who don't agree with the policy because

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<v Speaker 6>they think the Sierra Club's role should just be to

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<v Speaker 6>oppose anything that has any environmental consequences. They don't think

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<v Speaker 6>our role should be to say, Okay, here's where we

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<v Speaker 6>think we should get our energy. We see it, there's

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<v Speaker 6>the cleanest of the fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 2>That story is still very much with us today. You

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<v Speaker 2>might remember hearing some of the Democratic primary candidates talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it in the recent debates. All these scandals surrounding

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<v Speaker 2>McLendon make him an easy scapegoat for Chesapeake's financial lows.

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<v Speaker 2>But Greg Rogers, who specializes in climate change and other

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<v Speaker 2>lay ablity accounting for the energy industry, says Chesapeake's financial

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<v Speaker 2>situation is pretty typical for the shale industry as a whole.

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<v Speaker 7>The franking industry has not produced a return on capital

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<v Speaker 7>and excessive the cost of capital since its inception.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes it a bad pick for an industry to

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<v Speaker 2>bail out, at least financially. Rogers says, there are other

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<v Speaker 2>factors at play.

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<v Speaker 7>I would imagine that there would be a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>political pressure and some inclination by US politicians to support

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<v Speaker 7>the domestic coil and gas industry, and especially when you

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<v Speaker 7>tie that back into concerns about national security. So I

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<v Speaker 7>think the proposition that the Saudis and the Russians are

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<v Speaker 7>going to provide the oil energy needed by the world

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<v Speaker 7>as we phase out this industry is not very appealing

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<v Speaker 7>to US politicians. And so again reasons to bail out

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<v Speaker 7>the industry is can they afford it?

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<v Speaker 2>The answer, amid an ongoing pandemic and an economic downturn

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<v Speaker 2>sure to worsen, is no. Not really. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>think of any other industry that's been bailed out in

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<v Speaker 2>spite of performing badly, aside from maybe the banks. In

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight, Clark Williams Darry explains that in

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<v Speaker 2>a way, that's kind of what's happening here too.

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<v Speaker 4>So bankruptcy is not a process where a company just

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<v Speaker 4>blows up and dissolves. Bankruptcy is a process for telling creditors.

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<v Speaker 5>That they're not going to get paid.

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<v Speaker 4>It's essentially like a process where the phoenix dies. It's

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<v Speaker 4>creditors are told that they're not going to get their

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<v Speaker 4>money back. The shareholders are completely wiped out, but the

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<v Speaker 4>company rises from the ashes and still has access to

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<v Speaker 4>its assets and so forth. It just is really reborn

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<v Speaker 4>with a new capital structure, and all the old investors

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<v Speaker 4>are sad, but the company itself.

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<v Speaker 5>At some level it sort of survives.

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<v Speaker 4>It sort of re emerges from bankruptcy as a new

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<v Speaker 4>company with a cleaner balance sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with that restructuring, William Sterry says, the company may

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<v Speaker 2>or may not make money.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, So I want to ask you about the fact that,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, chest Peak is one of several shale like

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<v Speaker 8>deeply indebted shale companies that did receive some funding through

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<v Speaker 8>the Cares Act, and whether or not, like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>To me, it sort of seems like one of of

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<v Speaker 8>what I think will be several examples of the government

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<v Speaker 8>sort of throwing good money after bad to try to

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<v Speaker 8>save companies that are so deeply problematic financially and like

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<v Speaker 8>a one time loan is not going to fix it. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm curious to hear your take on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, that's that's exactly right. I mean, so, like

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<v Speaker 4>just the concept of a bailout, and when people talk

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<v Speaker 4>about bailouts, I used to, you know, when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 4>I did a lot of canoeing, and a bailout is

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's literally you've got a that is fine,

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<v Speaker 4>that is solid, that doesn't have any problems with with

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, you know, there's there's no there's no crack,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no leak, and you just need to toss water

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<v Speaker 4>out of the boat and the boat's able to sort

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<v Speaker 4>of you go on sailing on, right. So it's like

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<v Speaker 4>your bailout is literally like you're the boat is fine,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're just taking water out of the canoe and

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<v Speaker 4>to allow the company the boat to sort of to

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<v Speaker 4>sort of continue to operate. But the problem with the

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<v Speaker 4>shale industry is that there's a there's a hole in

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<v Speaker 4>the hull. This is not a boat that just needs

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<v Speaker 4>a little bailout. It's a boat that is maybe already sunk.

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<v Speaker 4>And so when you're bailing out a boat that's already sunk,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not actually going to you know, create a boat

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<v Speaker 4>that can still continue to operate. It's it's it's it's founder,

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<v Speaker 4>it's done right. So so a lot of the talk

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<v Speaker 4>about sort of the government bailout, well, what really is

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<v Speaker 4>going on is not so much technically, it doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 4>to me, like it's a bailout. What it is, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a handout to the investors. So it's something that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>allows the investors to recoup a little bit and this

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<v Speaker 4>is mostly the creditors to recoup a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>the money that.

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<v Speaker 5>These companies owe to them.

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<v Speaker 4>So like if you give let's say you give a

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<v Speaker 4>hundred million dollars to a company like Chesapeake, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know act how how much it actually got either Chesapeake

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<v Speaker 4>continues to burn through that money because this business model

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<v Speaker 4>is fundamentally broken, or else it saves some of that

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<v Speaker 4>money and that money can get can go back to

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<v Speaker 4>the hedge funds and other people who swooped in and

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<v Speaker 4>bought Chesapeake debt. So it's you know, the structure of

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<v Speaker 4>some of the bailouts that have been proposed for the

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<v Speaker 4>oil and gas industry, and some of them have actually

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<v Speaker 4>happened for oil and gas companies. The structure is really

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<v Speaker 4>designed to benefit invest not so much to fix the

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<v Speaker 4>broken shale industry business model. It's just to reward investors

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<v Speaker 4>who made bad bets.

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<v Speaker 5>On shale companies and allow them.

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<v Speaker 4>To get a little bit more of their money back

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<v Speaker 4>in the bankruptcy process.

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<v Speaker 5>Really what this is.

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<v Speaker 4>It winds up being sort of a passed through from

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<v Speaker 4>the US Treasury straight to the hedge funds or other

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<v Speaker 4>investors who own chesameake Dad.

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<v Speaker 2>So instead of supporting working Americans or investing in an

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<v Speaker 2>energy transition because that would be political, the government is

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<v Speaker 2>bailing out failing companies to get some money into the

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<v Speaker 2>pockets of hedge fund the guys. Chesapeake will continue operating

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<v Speaker 2>with seven million dollars of its debt wiped clean by

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin Resources, a holding company. We'll see how long that lasts.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it for this time. Thanks for tuning in. We

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<v Speaker 2>will have another episode for you this Friday, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I swear we really are going to take a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a break to produce the next investigative season.

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<v Speaker 2>Look out for that in July and in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>again for listening, and we'll see you next time.