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Speaker 1: And uh so, basically my character was a numbers runner,

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Speaker 1: get it that the hustler is a salesman. The hustler,

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Speaker 1: some ladies. He might help you, you know, get you

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Speaker 1: You know that's amazing. Now you you executive produced a

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Speaker 1: one and a very talented lady appeared on your show

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Speaker 1: But like you said, let's go all the way back

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Speaker 1: to Peppermint. When you mentioned all those names, Steve Harvey's surgery,

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Speaker 1: the criminals was laughing on Thursday night. That was crazy,

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Speaker 1: that that dudes that do harm every week, but on

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Speaker 1: us that we gotta have. It's really crazy. It's really

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Speaker 1: crazy because he tells us the truth. When I hosted

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Speaker 1: you man, I used to look at people people were

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Speaker 1: laugh at me and shake my hands. I swear to

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Speaker 1: But they were so infatuated with my talents as a

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Speaker 1: stand up and when they would look at you, Bill,

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Speaker 1: they would look at you like, Man, I wish I

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Speaker 1: happened to. So so when you see a talent like

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Speaker 1: a number of other talents, and you look at the

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Speaker 1: state of stand up comment and you've done so many

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Speaker 1: specials as a stand up commed be introduced as one

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Speaker 1: of the rising stars of stand up, you're acting and

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Speaker 1: a bellarment. You look at your resume. What do you

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Speaker 1: I can't do something. I'm willing to do it. But

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Speaker 1: you said something that was really key, Rishan, I do

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Speaker 1: my homework. If somebody interviews me, I get to know

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Speaker 1: who they are. So as a relationship, when we talk

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Speaker 1: and focus on the thing that you want. Right. I

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Speaker 1: a star, you know. I knew that I was gonna

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Speaker 1: wear suits because I wanted to look different and look polished.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to look successful. That was on purpose, right

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Speaker 1: that those that was before it happened, though, So just me,

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Speaker 1: I had it in my head that I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: the landscape of comedy. I'm like, how can I make

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Speaker 1: a splash in the business that don't know me? I

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Speaker 1: want people to see me and be excited. I want

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Speaker 1: people to see me and be interested. So I presented

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Speaker 1: heck is that right? Because you know, I didn't look

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Speaker 1: like I looked like everybody said, you look like you're

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Speaker 1: about to drop R and B album, you know, right right, right,

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Speaker 1: right right. So I was like, I got I was like,

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Speaker 1: I can't think, but I can slang these jokes. So

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Speaker 1: what ended up happening is and what I can say

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Speaker 1: to do, and you have to supply a need. That

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Speaker 1: that's how you that's how brands become huge. You supply

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Speaker 1: something that doesn't exist. You create something and create a

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Speaker 1: demand for it. Right now, now you're looking at you.

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Speaker 1: You you look at when I came out, nobody was

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Speaker 1: wearing suits. Then everybody starts trying to dress up then,

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Speaker 1: and then then then there was no like really leading

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Speaker 1: man looking comedians. It's just not you know, except for

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Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy. I mean, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: when I came out, you know, everybody was like, well,

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Speaker 1: who's that guy? And then I started doing movies. Then

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Speaker 1: I did how to be a player. Uh. Now you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's real. It's like, oh, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can't be funny and you can't be charming, and

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Speaker 1: it's still be successful and you don't have to be considered,

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Speaker 1: So I found a way to make funny a business.

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Speaker 1: Well you are you are business, you are a brand.

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Speaker 1: That's the I'm talking to Bill Bellamy. You know his

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Speaker 1: work in my early interest, I said he has one

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Speaker 1: of the most diverse acting resumes. Uh, in Hollywood, stand

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Speaker 1: up comedy specials, Access Hollywood, co hosting with Rachel ray

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Speaker 1: Steve Harvey was doing game show host way before Michael Strahan,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Anderson, you know, play the Wide Receiver in any

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Speaker 1: given Sunday with Jamie Fox and like again, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know Love Jones, which you you know, I Love Jones

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Speaker 1: is still one of my favorite movies that you performed in.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know those are those rich movies and

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Speaker 1: that's what you mentioned. You you feel this type of

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Speaker 1: project will be similar, will impact people because as I

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Speaker 1: she deserves to be nominated for an Oscar in that

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Speaker 1: they're not they're not trying to uh, they're not doctormentaries.

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Speaker 1: These are this entertainment, but it's tolding the story that

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Speaker 1: in a way. And I'm glad it's not a one

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Speaker 1: off Bill Bellervy. I'm like a limited series, so you

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Speaker 1: and you get the chance to um really get engulfed

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Speaker 1: girls to be like, yo, man, look at what Madam C. J.

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Speaker 1: So what's your excuse. You got you got, you got

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Speaker 1: somebody yourself. Man, you better get out of you right.

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Speaker 1: You know you left home. You you just left home

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Speaker 1: back then? You just left home, right? Yeah? Walker out

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Speaker 1: here with no no WiFi, you got no backup? Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, self made story started my man. Bill Bellamy

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Speaker 1: starts March on Netflix is a limited series. I got Netflix,

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Speaker 1: so I definitely will be watching Bill. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on my show man. Man. You know you know

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Speaker 1: from my heart you're special. Man. I love you. When

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Speaker 1: guest is one of the world's most requested Motivate sational speakers.

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Speaker 1: She is a bestselling author, coach, founder and CEO of

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Speaker 1: Motivating the Masses Incorporated from a struggling SEMA from a

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Speaker 1: struggling single mom on public assistance to a millionaire entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: Her global platform has reached nearly eight million eighty million people.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making Conversations. My dear friend, Lisa Nichols. Hello, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be with you to be sean,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank your success as uh. It's been a journey.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've become a household name uh to get

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Speaker 1: everything you started here. With that being said, what is

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Speaker 1: your gift, Lisa? What would you say your gift is?

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Speaker 1: M It's a great question to start with. I think

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Speaker 1: my my gift is the ability to see and feel

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Speaker 1: uh and be with people exactly where they are uh

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Speaker 1: and and and then to be a possible pathway to

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Speaker 1: the man of the woman that they're looking to become.

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Speaker 1: So I can't be all of that to them, but

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Speaker 1: I can be right where they are with them, hold

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Speaker 1: that space, and then open up a doorway, a conversation

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Speaker 1: and action plan, a mindset on the journey to the

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Speaker 1: person that they say they want to become. I love

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Speaker 1: the way you kind of like say you kind of

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Speaker 1: hung on that word. Say you know, I'm listening to

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Speaker 1: you know your motivator. Now you know you don't hang

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Speaker 1: on the word that long. Unless it means that people

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Speaker 1: have these dreams, they have these expectations of themselves. But

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Speaker 1: is it the effort there? Is that the plan there?

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Speaker 1: And that's what you're talking about when you're hanging on

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Speaker 1: the words say correct, right right? Well, first of all, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I call it a verbal highlights. That word a verbal highlights,

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Speaker 1: and and it's it's I understand what your intentions are.

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, but it is the tongue

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Speaker 1: is the tongue in your mouth and the tongue in

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Speaker 1: your shoes going in the same direction. That's it's a

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Speaker 1: beautiful question to have because you know, we always hear

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Speaker 1: the words if that's popular words and the uh in

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Speaker 1: the motivational world, and that's everyday life. Now, you know,

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Speaker 1: what's your brand, what's your passion, what's your gift? Jump

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Speaker 1: for the opportunity, you know, follow your you know, follow

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Speaker 1: your lead, uh, go out on faith. These these terms

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Speaker 1: can be they can be they're they're useful, but they

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Speaker 1: can also be dangerous because just to go out on

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Speaker 1: faith without a plan always to people is a mistake

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Speaker 1: and also not even understanding what your brand is. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes you should like, as you're growing your brand, you

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Speaker 1: should stay where you are to your your brand can

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Speaker 1: somewhat afford you an opportunity to pay some bills. So

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Speaker 1: when you're doing this whole process of traveling and meeting everybody,

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Speaker 1: like I said in your in your intro, you know,

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Speaker 1: from a struggling single mom on public assistance to a

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Speaker 1: millionaire entrepreneur, how do you balance those conversations? Lisa Nichols,

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Speaker 1: You know, I adopted a long time ago this theory

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Speaker 1: that I learned. I had never heard of it until

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Speaker 1: I was like, probably into my late thirties early forties,

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Speaker 1: and it was called it's called cognitive dissonance and cognitive dissonance.

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Speaker 1: Invite anyone who's listened to my voice look it up,

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Speaker 1: study it, and become an an avid applier of cognitive

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Speaker 1: dissonance and cognitive dissonances. When you see yourself further in

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Speaker 1: front of you than you actually are, and you you

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Speaker 1: know that in order to get there you have to

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Speaker 1: do something different. So it's a disruption of the brain.

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Speaker 1: The brain is seeing you in a space that you

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Speaker 1: physically are not, financially or not, and you know that

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Speaker 1: if that's who you are to become, you need to

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Speaker 1: do some things that you're not doing, stop doing something

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Speaker 1: that you are doing, begin to adopt some ways of

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Speaker 1: thinking that you haven't adopted yet. That literally there is

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Speaker 1: a mental discomfort because the way you're living, being operating

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Speaker 1: and what your experience is incongruent to who you know

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Speaker 1: yourself to be. So I I early on Rashan adopted

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Speaker 1: that behavior and mindset. Right now, you're an interesting thing

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Speaker 1: about that? Is that so because you used the word

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Speaker 1: early on. So let's go back to your background a

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Speaker 1: little bit, because there are a lot of people want

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Speaker 1: to be you, our version of you, or feel that

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Speaker 1: they can do this. They can motivate people because people

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Speaker 1: call my show. They stopped in the streets. They know

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Speaker 1: who I am. To go, Hey, I want to get

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Speaker 1: into motivational speaking business. I have some things I want

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Speaker 1: to say. So how did you tell us about your

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Speaker 1: background and how did you get started? Lisa? Well, you

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Speaker 1: know it's funny because I didn't. I didn't step into motivation,

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Speaker 1: inspiration or transformation. Those are all you know in the

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Speaker 1: same zip code right now. I didn't step into this

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Speaker 1: community saying I wanted to be this person. I stepped

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Speaker 1: in the into this community working to save my own life.

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Speaker 1: So I am a wounded heat I am a victim

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Speaker 1: who just kept going to victor and I sat down

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Speaker 1: the victim conversation and picked up the I want to

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Speaker 1: be a champion for this kind of experience for others

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Speaker 1: because I came through it. So um I discovered motivation

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Speaker 1: because I was so depressed and I was so sad,

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Speaker 1: and I was broken broken, and then I became tired

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Speaker 1: of being broken broken. It didn't happen overnight that I

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Speaker 1: knew how to stop being broken broken. I just started

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Speaker 1: a quest to one discover Who could I be if

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Speaker 1: I stopped being this this frustrated, angry, hurt, scared person.

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Speaker 1: Who could I become? Who could I become if I

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Speaker 1: stopped demming my light and only showing you half of

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Speaker 1: my lights so that I don't impose on on your

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Speaker 1: effort to find your own life? Who can I become? Uh?

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Speaker 1: If I gave myself a thousand second chances because I

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Speaker 1: keep falling down. But if I stopped counting the fall

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Speaker 1: downs and I stopped counting and I start counting the

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Speaker 1: get ups, who could I be? So I just kept

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Speaker 1: I put on my door the explorer hat Rashan, and

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Speaker 1: I turned the light on the on the front of it,

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Speaker 1: and I just began to explore who Lisa can become

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Speaker 1: as a single mother, as someone born in in South

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Speaker 1: central and live between the Harlem Crip thirties and the

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Speaker 1: role in sixties. Who had three fights a week to

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Speaker 1: get home from school, who's function who is functionally dyslexic?

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Speaker 1: Who could she become? So really, I started this journey

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Speaker 1: just in discovery of who can I become. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. I didn't started saying I'm

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Speaker 1: a favorite world, I'm inspired the world, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: a millionaire. No, I said, I'm gonna get off government's assistance.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop you. I'm gonna stop meeting wick when

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Speaker 1: women infinite children. I'm gonna stop thinking I'm not beautiful

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Speaker 1: in my moca skin and my full lips, with my

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Speaker 1: round hips and my kinky here, I'm gonna stop. So

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Speaker 1: the first part of my journey I was running away

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Speaker 1: from all my chaos, and then I bumped into possibility

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Speaker 1: and I liked the way it felt, and then I

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Speaker 1: start pursuing something new. I'm gonna be perfectly well, that's

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Speaker 1: how it started. Everybody in the booth got the hand up.

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Speaker 1: They got the hand up, Lisa, they got the hand up.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, everybody to do white people, black people,

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Speaker 1: everybody got the hand out. That's a relatable speech. That's

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Speaker 1: a relatable speech. You know, I'm saying, it's not a

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Speaker 1: black thing, it's not a white, a Christian thing, it's

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Speaker 1: not a Buddha thing, it's not a woman thing. It's

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Speaker 1: not it's a human spirit, my human spirit. When I

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Speaker 1: discovered that my human spirit is unbreakable, it's unshakable, and

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Speaker 1: it's unavailable to my bank account balance, that has broke

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Speaker 1: down relationship that I may have been in how much

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Speaker 1: I was weighing at the time. My human spirit has

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Speaker 1: always and will always simply ask for the command. What

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Speaker 1: are we going to conquer next? Give me a command?

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Speaker 1: When I figured that outur Shine. When I figured that out, man,

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Speaker 1: I just I was like, it was like the new

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Speaker 1: It was a new drug for me. It literally was

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Speaker 1: a new drug for me. I was like, Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take this in every day. I'm gonna inhale, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna drink it. I'm a I'm aware and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: rub it on. I'm a bathe in it possibility. And

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Speaker 1: when I realized that if I can think about it,

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Speaker 1: but not just think about it, if I could see

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Speaker 1: it clearly clear colors, if I could smell it, I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to just see my dreams. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: smell them. I wanted to taste them. So I would

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Speaker 1: go to people's house that live like I wanted to live.

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Speaker 1: I find a way to get in. I find a

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Speaker 1: way to get in resin and I rubbed on their furniture,

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Speaker 1: would club on their center islands. I would up on

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Speaker 1: their cars. And I'm not materialistic, but I believe that

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Speaker 1: the God that I served says, if there's zero distance

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Speaker 1: between you and it, and it is available to you.

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Speaker 1: So I just put zero distance between me and all

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Speaker 1: the things I dreamt about, the lifestyle, the people to love.

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Speaker 1: And then I I felt it. I could taste it,

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Speaker 1: I could see it, I could smell it. I took

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Speaker 1: a picture next to it, and then I brought it

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Speaker 1: back into my hemisphere in my mindset, and then I

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Speaker 1: adopted cognitive dissonance. Please look that up, y'all, I said,

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Speaker 1: who do I have to become? What do I have

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Speaker 1: to do to shorten the distance between me and it?

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I'm com gonna be quiet. Now,

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Speaker 1: let you talk. I got excited, Lisa, Lisa, you know,

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Speaker 1: let me tell yourself. That's what I love you. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, right, you know, I got to I got

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Speaker 1: this chance to see you live several years ago at

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Speaker 1: ESSs just sitting in the back of the room, just

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Speaker 1: sitting are having the same motivational tone having people stand

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Speaker 1: up point at you. Yeah girl, do it dood you know.

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Speaker 1: You know when people get motivated, they don't say much word,

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Speaker 1: they don't say many sence. They just go tall, point

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Speaker 1: at you and you just look around, get your little

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Speaker 1: s shake your hand left and right. Come on now,

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Speaker 1: come on now, Because that's the blessing of being able

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Speaker 1: to find your gift, or find your passion or or

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Speaker 1: build upon it. Because when I hear you talk, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I tell people in high school, I should drive

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Speaker 1: around in different neighborhoods. I used to cut out cars

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Speaker 1: or that I didn't I just liked them. I just

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Speaker 1: knew this type of car I wanted if I had money,

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Speaker 1: to be in it, to experience it, deliver it, to

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Speaker 1: be it. And I always tell people when I walk

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Speaker 1: around in people houses where they have more money than me,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I just visualized how they would look.

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Speaker 1: And so so when I when I buy something that

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Speaker 1: I want is at that level, then I'm already there mentally,

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Speaker 1: and so I always tell people, don't deny what you

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Speaker 1: can get just because you think you don't have it currently.

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Speaker 1: And that's what that means. You're shutting down your future,

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Speaker 1: You're shutting down your options to be successful. And that's

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Speaker 1: the wrong way to think. And so when I look

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Speaker 1: at people talking about visionary boards, vision boards and all that,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's nothing new. We just we just you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just that's just a fancy word. They put on

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Speaker 1: a dream, that's just a fancy word. They put on

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Speaker 1: the world a goal. You know. Vision boards have been

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Speaker 1: in the you know, Ford he had a vision you know,

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Speaker 1: Edison he had a vision board, you know. And so

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Speaker 1: now we put all these words and we give too

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Speaker 1: much power to these little fancy words like brands and

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Speaker 1: gifts and and uh and envision boards and really just

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Speaker 1: go back to who you are, what you want to be,

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Speaker 1: what your dreams are capable of achieving, and not what

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Speaker 1: you're living at currently, and get rid of those naysays,

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Speaker 1: because you know, when you were starting to turn that corner, Lisa,

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Speaker 1: then they say it was coming up girl. What you're

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Speaker 1: trying to do? You sure about that? You better stay

849
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Speaker 1: where you're at, How do you fight off those nay,

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Speaker 1: says Lisa. Well, first of all, you know, going back

851
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: to your visualizing and understanding about having things, I realized

852
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: that there's a complete distinction between wealth. Wealth is a

853
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: unilateral conversation around money and possessions. That's wealth. And while

854
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: that's an indicator of some level of success, wealth is

855
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: not the ultimate indicator of success. Abundance is um Abundance

856
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: is not just a unilateral UH category called wealth, money

857
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: UH and possessions. Abundance is abundance in your relationships, abundant

858
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Speaker 1: in having health, wealth abundant, and having spiritual wealth abundance

859
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: and having financial was It's one category of a very

860
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: large picture. So I want to just be very clear

861
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Speaker 1: that that what I pursue and what I have pursued

862
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Speaker 1: for the last twenty five years, and what I teach

863
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Speaker 1: my students who step onto my multiple multiple forms in

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Speaker 1: my campus is less pursue abundance because abundance is gonna

865
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: feel a whole lot better than wealth. I coach a

866
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Speaker 1: lot of very very wealthy people how to have abundance,

867
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: and so I just want to make that very clear

868
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Speaker 1: that that's the thing that I value most in my life.

869
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Speaker 1: Is that this past weekend, while I spoke for an

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Speaker 1: event that had forty six different countries present, the most

871
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Speaker 1: exciting part about my weekend was on Friday night, for

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Speaker 1: the first time and forty plus years, my father finally

873
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: let me shave his beer. He finally trust me, and

874
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: up the shape is there and and that was the

875
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: highlight of my weekend. While I was talking to thousands

876
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: and thousands of people in generating thousands and thousands of dollars,

877
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Speaker 1: that was the highlights. So I'm very clear, um Nate sayers.

878
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Speaker 1: So let me just first set a tone that, um,

879
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Speaker 1: you can never have someone who has a um, you

880
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: can never put your sixty four ounce dreams and someone

881
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: who has a twenty four ounce capacity. So so so

882
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: let's let's let's just start with the truth because the

883
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Speaker 1: truth will set of soft free. So I heard somewhere,

884
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Speaker 1: so you will have If you have a sixty four

885
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: ounce dream, then only give twenty four ounces of that

886
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: dream to someone who is a twenty four hours thinker.

887
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: Go find go, find a hundred and twenty ounce thinker

888
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 1: and give them your sixty four our drinking and watch

889
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: them expanded. So first of all, don't don't do a

890
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: disservice to the twenty four hours thinker or to you

891
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: by giving your dream that's out of their capacity to someone.

892
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying anything negative about the twenty four

893
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: hours thinker. They're not thinking small. They're twenty four hours

894
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: is a hundred, they're twenty four hours, and they're totally

895
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: fine until you go and try to cram your sixty

896
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: four hours. So they're twenty four our capacities. Love them

897
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: and be with them right where they are. So I'm

898
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: gonna say that and then say, the people in your

899
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: life did not sign up to be your business partners.

900
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: They don't sign up to be your fans. They don't

901
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: sign up to be the first readers of your book.

902
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: They don't sign up to make your book a best seller.

903
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: They decided to be your student. Allow them to be

904
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: who they are. That's that's number two. Number three is

905
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: your job is to be born into a community biological, geographical, spiritual, cultural,

906
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: that's the community you were born into. Allow that community

907
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: to coexist with you. Your second job is to go

908
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: find your second community that's gonna make you stand on

909
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: your tippy toes. That's what I did, and when I

910
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: found that second community lowers the hold. It was a conference.

911
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: I was the only one of three women. I was

912
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Speaker 1: the only person of any color, So that's that's across

913
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Speaker 1: Latin Asian Indians, no color but me. And then I

914
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: was the youngest person by eighteen years. So I felt

915
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: like an alien on an entirely different planet. And they

916
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: were speaking an entirely different language. No oblo espagno. I

917
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: didn't know what they were talking about. Still talking about

918
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Speaker 1: PPM term agreements r o I, revenue streams, um of

919
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: revenue paths and and p n l s And I'm like,

920
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: what are they talking about? But I didn't run. I

921
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: didn't run because I was different. I didn't run because

922
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: I stood out. I didn't run because I was lonely.

923
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: I would go to the conference. I would spend three thousand,

924
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: seven hundred and eighty two dollars that I didn't have.

925
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: I would go there for eight days, and I would

926
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: feel lonely and out of place. But I knew that

927
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: group was causing me to stand roshan on my tippy toes.

928
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: They caused me to stay up at night and research

929
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: what does PPM mean term agreement r o I? What

930
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: does it mean to have seven revenue streams. What does

931
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: it mean to have a p n L. I had

932
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: no idea what this stuff was. So this group, by

933
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: being in their physical proximity, they kept me in cognitive dissonance.

934
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: They kept me uncomfortable in who I could become if

935
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: I stood around long enough. People often think when they

936
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: become uncomfortable, they back away, and I say, don't back away,

937
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: don't back away from the discomfort. It's simply It simply

938
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: means that you're convention and you're convenience. As you heard

939
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: me say, don't live on the same block. You're not

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00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: gonna be convenience on your way to you, the greatest

941
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: version of you. I'll say that again, You're not gonna

942
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: be convenience on on the journey to the greatest version

943
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: of your. Your greatness lives on the outside of your

944
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: for zone. What you've already done, you've already done. So

945
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: if you're comfortable, it's because you ain't growing. If you

946
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: complain that if you feel good, everything, oh, everything is good,

947
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: All things are good, that means you're not at the

948
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: edge of your box. I'm not saying feel bad, but

949
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: I am saying feel stretched. My dear talking to the

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Speaker 1: amazing and put the word amazing in front of her. Amazing.

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Speaker 1: Lisa Nichols bookselling, bestselling author, coach, founder, motivational speaker, founding CEO,

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Speaker 1: Motivating the Masters. When we come back, she got a

953
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: lot of things that are coming up in the fall,

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Speaker 1: the extraordinary, you, elevate speakers, mastermind, powerhouse, motivating, the teen Spirit.

955
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about all that in our next break.

956
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: She's amazing. Right back with more money Making Conversations with

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Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the host of

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversation. You say to yourself, who calls Rushan Shell,

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Speaker 1: please work on the Money Making Conversations. Comedian Dean Cole.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people fail to realize when you look

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00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: in the mirror every morning, you passed the most unique

962
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: thing in the world. And I talked about this in

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00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: my stand up. You are unique in every way. You

964
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: gotta look at what's unique and you and then capitalize on.

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Speaker 1: The Money Making Conversations continues online at www dot money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations dot com. I just re Shane McDonald. You're

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00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: listening to money Making Conversation, the show I created to

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00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: provide information to individuals like you. Who are listening. There

969
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: are people out there who are successful. There are people

970
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: who have traveled some paths that you want to travel.

971
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: They have dreams that you want to achieve. They have

972
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: goals that you want to set. That's what money making

973
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: conversations is all about. More importantly, they motivate you, not

974
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: only which with your spirit, but information information that it's

975
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: tied to work. You gotta have work ethic, you have

976
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: to have a You can't limit yourself based on I

977
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: don't have enough time. I'm not an early morning person.

978
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: You can't have excuses in your path to success. That's

979
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: what That's what money main conversation is all about. One

980
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: of the leaders in that, one of the true queens Captains,

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00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: Admiral's or Presidents Diamond Club member amazing is the incredible

982
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: Lisa Nichols. Lisa, welcome back to the show. Thank you

983
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: so much for having me. I want to talk about

984
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: this right quickly. Let's talk about the impact you have

985
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: had on the teens. Do your nonprofit foundation Motivating the

986
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: Teen Spirit. You have touched the lives over over two

987
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand teens prevented over thirty eight hundred

988
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: teen suicide supported hundred dropouts and returning them to school,

989
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: and it's help thousands to reunite with their families. Okay,

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00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: that's yeah, okay, yeah yeah, but that you know, when

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00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: he said, I filled my my heart expans At nineteen, um,

992
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: I had already been you know, um super achiever in

993
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: some areas in school, as a track, as an as

994
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: an athlete, um uh, as a as a social leader

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00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: in school. Though I struggle academically and a lot of areas,

996
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: I seem to be very happy. And at eight Teams,

997
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: I found myself um in a very dark place, and

998
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: I even contemplated suicide. And I remember standing in the

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00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: bathroom with a handful of Thailand All and I wasn't

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Speaker 1: sure if they would do the trick at eight thailand

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Speaker 1: All to be exact and extra strength thailand on. I

1002
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: wasn't sure if this will be enough. But I realized

1003
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to die. I just wanted the

1004
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: pain that I felt in my soul to stop. And

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00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: I remember falling to my knees and crying out to

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00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: God in my little one bit room house that my

1007
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: dad and I lived in, when I said, God, if

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00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: you helped to relieve me of this pain right now.

1009
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: I'll spend the rest of my life helping teens be

1010
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: emotionally healthy, to find joy, to be able to discover

1011
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: how to have healthy conversations. I'll be a part of

1012
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: the solution. God, I remember that day like it were yesterday.

1013
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: Rashan and I went on for uh. I got up,

1014
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: got through that. I got through that dark moment. Ten

1015
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: years later, I'm busy, you know, started getting my life together.

1016
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 1: I'm a new mom. Jelani is just one years old,

1017
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: and I feel it's not And it was God's saying,

1018
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: it's time for you to pay on that promise you

1019
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: made right And you didn't have to knock hard. He

1020
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: didn't have to knock loud. He didn't have to knock loud. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And you know I shrugged it off the

1022
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: first a couple of times. God, wait, hold on, I'm

1023
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: just finding my rhythm. I stop this job. I'm making

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00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: six figures. I was thinking a hundred and ten dollars

1025
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: at the time. I was excited. I'm like, God, I'm

1026
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: getting off, you know, government's assistance. Finally, I'll pay you

1027
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: back later, I promise you. I promise it. Hearing that

1028
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: knock and UH and so I created Motivating the Team

1029
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: Spirit UM and Motivating the Team Spirit as an emotional

1030
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: literacy program. It's I want to be very clear, it's

1031
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: not for it's not a youth intervention program. So it's

1032
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: not a place for teams who have behavioral challenges or

1033
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: for kids who have just been in trouble to come

1034
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: while it is their haven so that they can find

1035
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: their own emotional intelligence. We for every team we have

1036
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: that in academic or social trouble, we're sitting next to

1037
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: them as a as a child who has a four

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00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: point for g P A and so Motivating the Team

1039
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Spirit is designed to be the one of the few

1040
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: spaces where teens and young adults because now we go

1041
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: up to age, they can discover how to distinguish between

1042
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: their negative self talk and their powerful self talk UM,

1043
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: how to access their self esteem when it's been challenged

1044
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: by something that's occurred, how to get back in integrity

1045
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: when they've broken an integrity contract something that's never spoken

1046
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: of and never mentioned, but when you break it, it

1047
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: risks a relationship. So teaching them the life skills around

1048
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: emotional intelligence UM and UM. I'm super excited. We we

1049
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: do our events three times a year in San Diego,

1050
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: and we also travel and bring those same UM trainings

1051
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: and workshops, emotional literacy workshops to your community near you. Um.

1052
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: What I'm excited about is that the lead trainer and

1053
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: the director of MOTE in the Team Spirit now is

1054
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: my twenty five year old son and ji Lynn. And

1055
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: so he now teaches the curriculum. I teach beside him sometimes. Um.

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Speaker 1: But he grew up in it, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: a thing that shapes his character. So he has it

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00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: steeped in him more than it was even steeped in me.

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Speaker 1: Um and so UM, it's some of the work that

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00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: I am the most, I'm the proudest of. So you've

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00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: heard that statement preachers kids. So he's a motivation kid.

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00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: He's an m K. Yeah, you know what. Let me

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00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: go a step further, he's a t K. He's a

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Speaker 1: transformational kid. Mama wasn't. Mama just wasn't into the raw

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: rob mama substance. I said, son, your character is defined

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Speaker 1: by what you do in the dark of the night

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00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: when no one's looking. I don't care what you do

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00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: when the lights are on you. I want to know

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00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: the decisions you make for no one's looking. So he's

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Speaker 1: a teacher, he's a transformational There you go, there you go,

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00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, just reading some of the

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00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: questions that they sent over, and that was talking about

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00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: retreats that you do and uh, and I wanted to

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00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: talk about you have. It was kind of broken down

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00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 1: in a way and say you have black women only

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00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: and you have a different one for men and women.

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Speaker 1: Explain that rationale and also tell us what exactly is

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00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: your or your retreats. So the so the second retreat

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00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: that you mentioned is really my first retreat, and that's

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Speaker 1: what we call our breakthrough retreat. And we're on our

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00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: way to our breakthrough retreating a couple of weeks here

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00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: and then we have another one coming up. But our

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00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: break Through Retreat is designed for everyone, men, woman, black life, Asian,

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00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: anthy on, everyone, and it's a place where super heroes

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00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: and supersroes come to take your take off. So the

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00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: exclusivity I have with all my retreats is that I

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00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: want game changers to come only. I want movers and shakers.

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00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: I want people who are the answer to other people's challenges.

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00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: Meaning if you're the one who gets the halls to

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: get things done. If you're the one whose everyone else's answer,

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01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: if you're the one that in the middle of your crisis,

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01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: you're still trying to help other people, this retreat is

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01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: for you. And so this retreat is a retreat where

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01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: you come and at the door, at the door you

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01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: metaphorically take your cape off and set it down and

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01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: we put it away for a week. And then what

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01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: I do is I helped to heal the healers. I

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01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: helped to restore those who restore others. So um, you

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01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: come and I we we create a safe space for

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01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: you to um reignite, rejuvenate, recharge, recommit, redesign your life

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: as is or what's next. And so really, um my

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01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: last retreat had seven doctors there. March retreat before that

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01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: had a gentleman who have been the council to eight presidents.

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Speaker 1: Um uh, people who work at Nassau, people who people

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01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: who are entrepreneurs who are serving thousands and thousands of

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Speaker 1: people like yourself. So it's a place where where leaders,

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Speaker 1: movers and shakers, game changes, gladigators and unicorns come to

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Speaker 1: take our cap off. So that's the break to retreat

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: that's for everyone. And then I have the exact same experience,

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Speaker 1: but I have it exclusive for Mover and Shaker black women.

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: And that was the thing that I created just because

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Speaker 1: I know her, I am her um and it's no

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: discount to any other gender, any other nationality. I just

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01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: knew that I needed a place where I can restore

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Speaker 1: my faith and sisterhood. And I can and and and

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01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: and not everyone, not many people. Matter of fact, only

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Speaker 1: one kind of person can get in a Black woman

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01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: who's into leadership's face. And that's another Black woman that's

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Speaker 1: in leadership that she trust her man. Her man can't

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Speaker 1: get in her face, you know, you know. And so

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: I really I didn't create that that retreat. That retreat

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01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: came after me and got me because I spoke at

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Speaker 1: all these conferences with with with black women leadership from

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Speaker 1: a black enterprise at b ET, at all of these

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Speaker 1: conferences where that Mover and Shaker black women go, and

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Speaker 1: they kept following me saying, you need a place to

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01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: create a place where you can deep dive with us

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Speaker 1: because we trust you, Lisa, And so I didn't design

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Speaker 1: that as a new program. These sisters came and got

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Speaker 1: me and said, we choose you as the person who

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: can check us love us, require us to heal, help

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Speaker 1: us heal, and then allow us to hold each other's

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01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: hands while we heal. And I just answered, Okay, wow,

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01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: that's powerful. There's a couple of things that you're doing

1135
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: that I really want to get the message the information

1136
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Speaker 1: out about it is called the Speaker's Mastermind Program, which

1137
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: is an exclusive live training workshop to help speakers take

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Speaker 1: themselves to a new level. And you're launching the Elevate,

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01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: an online personal development program and this year June of

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01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: this year. So let's start with the Speaker's Mastermind Program

1141
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: and then the slide over to the Elevate. So so

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01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: many people are aspiring to be speakers. As now. There's

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01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: two types of speakers. There's the non platform speaker, and

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01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: that's everybody. That's anyone who opens their mouths and they

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01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: want to convince, inspire, motivate, or educate someone. So that's

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01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: the school teacher, that's the judge, that's the person who

1147
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: works in automotive. That's the salesman, that's the saleswoman, that's

1148
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: that's multiple level marketing on any level. Anyone who ever

1149
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: gets a network marketing, direct sales. And you are a

1150
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: speaker because you want to convince, inspire, motivate someone to

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01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: take action. That's the school teacher. And so there's the

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01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: non platform speaker. They need to master their speaking. You

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01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: want to be a masterful speaker when you open your

1154
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: mouth even though you're not on stage. And then there's

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Speaker 1: the platform speaker, and that would be you and me

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01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: and those who want to create a platform from their speaking.

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: So there's non platform speakers and platform speakers. Either way.

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Speaker 1: I want to train. I want to train you to

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01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: master your voice and master your message. And what I

1160
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: broke down were the fourteen points that turns the body

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01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: of speaking into the art and science of speaking. I

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01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: looked at everything Rashaan, that I had done over the

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01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: last twenty five years that kept making everything I touched

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01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: turned to goal. How did I go? How did I

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01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: get the chicken soup for the sole offer? How did

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01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: I get the secret offer? How did I be a

1167
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: standout on Oprah? How did I get to Larry King?

1168
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: I took all the years, and I looked back and

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01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: I said, let me bottle up. If I could bottle

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01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: up what I was doing unconsciously, it was my unconscious competence.

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01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: If I can make my unconscious competence, a conscious competence,

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Speaker 1: and then share that with someone what would it look

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: like and that speaker's mastermind. Well, you know, the beauty

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01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: of this conversation I'm having with you is that you

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01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: know they have singing coaches and classes. And I know

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01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: when I was in l A, i went to acting

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Speaker 1: acting acting classes. You know, you want to train as

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01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: a stay in shape and you want to that's all.

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01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: That's all you're saying that this is a this is

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01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: a speech speaker. You want to be the best at it.

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01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, platform or non platform person that comes come.

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01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: We finally have that resource. You finally have you know,

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01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: events on body of speakers, you know, the out there

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01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: telling you come in here because I always tell people,

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01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting. Once that has been a

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01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: former stand up comic. Once you know how to tell

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01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: a joke, you can actually tell somebody how to tell

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01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: a joke. And because they're right walls and wrong ways,

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01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: and you can be funny or you're gonna be funny

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01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: for a short amount of time on stage, or you're

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01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: gonna be funny for a long period of time on stage.

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01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: And when you're doing these mastermind and speakers, mastermind and

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01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: you're a correct tider program elevating and in an exclusive

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01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,959
Speaker 1: training workshop to help speakers take themselves to a new level.

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01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: It's important to understand that that you know, you can

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01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: top off, or you can level off, or you can

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: like stop growing. And it takes an expert. It takes

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01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: a person being able to see themselves or see you

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Speaker 1: at the next level. I was watching this Bradley Cooper

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01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: when he was talking about his acting coach. Uh, she's

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01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: a female, and how she wasn't able to get him

1202
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: to turn the corner because he was Oh, he never

1203
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: had faith in use if he's always break down, but

1204
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: somehow she was able to let him see the light,

1205
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: let him see his ability, to let him walk through

1206
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: his fears. And he's an Oscar winner, you know, director,

1207
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: you know one of the major players. And that's all

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01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: you're saying at the Speakers Mastermind program. Correct, yep, absolutely,

1209
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: And we have Speakers Mastermind UH is four concentrated days

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01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: together with me where I lead you through all the

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01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: techniques on that I've broken down to the science of speaking.

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01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: But what I love about the training uh and we

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01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: do have an online live version of that where I

1214
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: teach you online live, if you're out of the country,

1215
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: if you or if you want to do a different

1216
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: version of it. Um, I teach you and then you

1217
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: apply it. I teach you and your apply. I'm a coach,

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01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: so I like you to. I want you to discover

1219
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: your own muscles. I want you to build your own apps.

1220
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: I want you to do your own curls. So at

1221
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: the end of the program, you're lifting more than you've

1222
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: ever lifted before. You've you've surpassed where you were when

1223
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: we started together. And so what I love about the

1224
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: training is that it's interactive, experiential. It's not just theory,

1225
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: it's not just concept, it's not just you know, academia.

1226
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: It's no applied learning. Show me your video, let me

1227
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: give you feedback on your video. Show me your life

1228
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: stand up, let me give you feedback on it. So

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: it's one of the most engaging platforms that I have

1230
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: watching your technique grow. And so I'm super excited that

1231
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: I finally was able. This is after sixteen years of

1232
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: people asking me to show them how to do what

1233
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: I do. How do your videos go viral with forty

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01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: seven million views in seven days? And for a long time,

1235
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: I was like I'm not sure than I thought. You

1236
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: let me go back and let me do my let

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: me do the work. Yeah, so it took me five

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01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: years to come up with this try. That's that I

1239
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: can walk people through. That says you will not cannot

1240
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: fully participate in this program and be the same level speaker,

1241
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: whether it's non platform or platform speaker as you were

1242
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: before you came in. There's no way possible. Um, And

1243
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: so I'm super excited about it. It's gonna be my legacy.

1244
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: It's going to be the thing I leave to the industry.

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01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 1: I leave through you know, speaking as the wild Wild West.

1246
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: There's a structure in it. It's too new, and so

1247
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to give the industry, give

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01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: the for all the people who feel like they're terrified

1249
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: of speaking. I want to give them some formulas that

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01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: will reduce their fears, because they will replace their fears

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01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: with skill sets. And then I want to give the

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01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: people who love to speak. I want to give them

1253
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 1: some formulas and tools so they can take it to

1254
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: the next level. Not so that they can shine brighter,

1255
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: but so that everyone can serve higher. I want to

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01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: close out talking about this one event that's coming up

1257
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: in May May first to the third, just in Los Angeles.

1258
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: Definitely come on now. I gotta help you promote this girl, Okay,

1259
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: so make sure you can send me feel we could.

1260
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: Also you can come back on the show as well,

1261
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's gonna be soldt by the end.

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01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: It's called Extraordinary You Personal Development Live Event, May first,

1263
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: the third in Los Angeles is your show tell us

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01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: about Lisa Wow. So it is the first ever personal Mastery,

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Speaker 1: Life gain changing three day UM conference that I've ever

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Speaker 1: done like this. So this is the culmination of all

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Speaker 1: the YouTube videos that I put out there that people love,

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Speaker 1: all of the things that they've seen on stage when

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01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: you can say, oh my god, you have me get

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01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: up again, Oh my god, let me wait my hands,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to get out of this like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, you get me standing my greatness. So

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Speaker 1: for the first time ever, I'm gonna say, if I've

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Speaker 1: done anything like that for you, or you want that

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01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: in your life, come and we're gonna spend three days

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01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: simply elevating and igniting and put setting your life on fire.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do some interactive things that are gonna literally

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: have you break through old belief systems. Have you continue

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01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: going where you normally would stop. Have you adopted a

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Speaker 1: new way of thinking. We're gonna come front and push

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01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: pas cognitive dissonance in the room. But the most important

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Speaker 1: thing I think happens there is that I have the

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Speaker 1: ability to gather some of the best game changers and

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Speaker 1: movers and shakers, gladiators and unicorns on the planet. Will

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: have at least fourteen different countries in the room to

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Speaker 1: now be available to be added to your Rolo deck.

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Speaker 1: I encourage and design a time for you to commune

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01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: with people, exchange information, find out what you're doing, become international,

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Speaker 1: expand your own platform. So it's when I tell you

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be three days of sheer fire. This morning,

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: I just secured one of the baddest brothers I've ever

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Speaker 1: met inside Transformation for Men to Men and he just said, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm there. So I'm super excited, super excited. If you

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01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: want to know about it, it's not even publicized yet,

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01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: it will sell out. We are always a fire has

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Speaker 1: that we always be shut down by the fire to problem,

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Speaker 1: and I love it. They don't shut the event down,

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01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: They just tell us no more people can come down

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01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: more people standing in front of the door. Right they

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01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: stand up from the door, They're like, you know, more

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Speaker 1: people because I was packing out and so right now, UM,

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Speaker 1: going to my site Motivating the Masses dot com. Motivating

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Speaker 1: the Masses dot Com. You'll see the advertisement there. Um,

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Speaker 1: we are limiting it. I'm not trying to have thousands

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Speaker 1: and thousands of people there Initially. I want my first

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Speaker 1: one to be super super um intimate, would have just

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01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: a few hundred people based, so it'll be super exciting

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. So plan to be with me when

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Speaker 1: I tell you you want to set the second half

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Speaker 1: of your year on fire, come to the Extraordinary conference

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Speaker 1: and we'll do it together. Lisa Nichols she is one

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Speaker 1: of the world's most requested motivational speakers. The CEO and

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Speaker 1: founder of Motivation Motivating the Masses, Incorporated. Lisa, thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on money making Conversations. It's my pleasure. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me. Brother. My next guest. Entertainment career

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 1: has encompassing stage, television, film. You've seen her acting. I

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Speaker 1: can work on abuse, TVs, Saints and Centers. U m

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Speaker 1: c's a House Divided, Tyler Perry's House of Pain Now

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Speaker 1: She's also starring in an exciting new free farm TV

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Speaker 1: series called Motherland Fort Salem, which premiers March eighteenth. Please

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Speaker 1: Workome the Money Conversations Dmetria McKinney. Hello, Hello, cool, the

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Speaker 1: first time on my show. Thank you for taking the time,

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01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. So where are you based at?

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Speaker 1: I'm here in Atlanta. I'm from the A. Okay you're

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: from not from the A, but I consider myself a

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Speaker 1: Georgia peach. I've been here for about sixteen seventeen, so really,

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Speaker 1: you know, we always hear about the moved to Atlanta.

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01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: The opportunities is here, you know, l A. You know

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Speaker 1: I moved. I lived in the l A fifteen years.

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: I lived in New York. My past history as a

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01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: stand up comic. This is some acting, but basically my

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01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: career has been tied to management and production and producing

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Speaker 1: shows and films, which is what you do. I've done

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Speaker 1: it all over the country, living in Chicago, lived in

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01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: of course Los Angele, New York. I'm originally from Houston.

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Speaker 1: So when I hear you talk about Atlanta's home, you're

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Speaker 1: actually living in What people want to get out of

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Speaker 1: Atlanta from a from an entertainment standpoint. You're acting, You're

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01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: acting a working actress in Atlanta. How did you pull

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01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: that off? You know, I think sometimes you know, they

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01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: say ignorance is bliss. I don't think I knew better.

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Speaker 1: Um I was. I got my start with acting with

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: Mr Tyler Perry, but of course with the stage plays.

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01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: My very first thing, my semi big thing would have

1345
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 1: been meet the Grounds and we toured that for a

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: year and after that I was like, Okay, I'm in

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Speaker 1: Fort Walton Beach. There's definitely not the kind of opportunities

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Speaker 1: that I want here. And Florida, Yeah, you know, military

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: life and that's about it. Um So I made the

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: move here without the real knowledge of what it could

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01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: be with the television industry. I knew about the music

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01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: part of it, which was definitely a big draw for

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01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: me as well as a singer. But when I got here,

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01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: it was just really really cool to see the way

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Speaker 1: that I was here at the beginning of the architecture

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01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: that was coming of the industry here in Atlanta. And

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01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: it feels that it feels very much talk about that

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01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: legacy of time frame that you were coming. Now you

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01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: mentioned we mentioned singing, So what is that play because

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Speaker 1: I looked at your resume it was talking about tours

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01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: like with my boy to rees Tank, talk about that

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Speaker 1: journey because now we just focused on on acting right now,

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01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: right Yeah, well no, not necessarily, UM that that part

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01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: of the journey was really really cool because that was

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Speaker 1: the original dream. The beautiful thing about a dream is

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01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 1: that it grows and it expands, and sometimes it's up,

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 1: sometimes it's down, but it can also be very parallel. Um.

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: So music has always been always, always, always, from the

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Speaker 1: very first time I heard Miss Whitney Houston, always been

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Speaker 1: my dream. Um. And getting to perform with people like

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Speaker 1: Tyree's Tank Vantage, Hey girl, Vantage, I love you, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting to do all of that type of stuff. Charles Wilson,

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I love her. You know, getting to

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Speaker 1: to tour with those types of people. I got an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to learn a lot, not just about the music,

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01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: but also the entertainment of it and the give and

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: take between the audience and they aren't and most definitely

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01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 1: the business. You have to remember that even if this

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01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: is your dream, there is a business very much attached

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Speaker 1: to it, and I think that's what people forget. Okay, okay,

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01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: The singing pull you out of there. Are acting pulled

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01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: you out of fort wall. The desire to sing, but

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01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: starting to act fulled me pulled me out of ft wall.

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Speaker 1: What did this? This is a natural skill? Or you

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01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: went to your training to see that you could be

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01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: an excellent actress because your resume tells me that you're

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Speaker 1: in demand. I've never gone to a class acting. I've

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01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: always wanted to, always wanted to know, you know, And

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Speaker 1: like you said, everybody's path is a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: What I recommend it for people, absolutely not. I definitely

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01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: want to train. I definitely want to get into some classes.

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01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: But what I've taken the opportunity to do since I've

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01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: been a working actress for so long, to make sure

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01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: that I learned something with each and every character, each

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01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: and every director, from my co stars. I asked the questions.

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01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: It may seem trivial. I'm like, so, why why why? Blue?

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01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to learn what's happening behind them,

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn the financial part of it. I

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01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: really want to make sure that I'm learning each step

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Speaker 1: of the way. Because I wasn't necessarily brought up in

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: the technical training of it. I'm still just staring at you. Said, look,

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: ra Sean, I'm looking at your resume. I just rattled

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Speaker 1: off bounds, sts, moles, Stev, Saints and Sinators. You sees

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01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: a house divided, that's the HOUSEVID is in Vancouver's tape.

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: That one's in l A, l A. That's that's shot

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Speaker 1: in l A. And then you have a Motherland is

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01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: shot Vancouver, Vancouver, and House of Pain is shot here

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01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 1: right here, and Saints and Sinators is shot here. And

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Speaker 1: you're telling me, Rashan um acting classes, uh not yet.

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01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: That's the you know, you know you can, you can

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01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: be doing something. And I think sometimes you come up

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: with a gift like you seem to have a gift

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01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: that you just knew you could motivate people, just understood

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01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: the financial part of it. You also had this funny

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Speaker 1: bone like you're well rounded in all of your gifts,

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: but understanding how to utilize them to the best of

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01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: their abilities. Where the training comes in. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I want to learn how to do. Listen, because we

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01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about. I want to get

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Speaker 1: to Motherland because the trailer and you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm a I'm a superhero.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Marvel fan. Girl. Come on that, Captain Marvel.

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01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 1: That's my girl, you know, you know, I just love that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Aquaman was amazing, you know, and I love

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01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: female leads. You know, A wonder Woman I thought was amazing.

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01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: It's one of those movies where you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a TV. I'm a guy who surface surfs a

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Speaker 1: TV and if I Wonder Woman, I'm gonna stop. I've

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01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: seen this how many times I've seen this thing, but

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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna see it and safety with Aquaman, Aquaman

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: and so so so I'm excited when I saw the

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Speaker 1: trailer because it plays into my fantasy. You know, strong women,

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01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: women who are empowered but also who are vulnerable, and

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Speaker 1: that's tied to the mysteries of their power and the

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Speaker 1: journey of becoming responsible, a responsible individual with those powers.

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Speaker 1: So tell us for how you got involved with this opportunity.

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01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: When the script came across my desk for me to audition,

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01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: I still audition. I've been working for a really long time.

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01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: But I am not above that. That's part of this business.

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: So anybody who says, you know, you know, I don't

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01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: get it. But it came across and I was like,

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01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: you know, this is necessary, this is now. I had

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01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: never seen anything involving witchcraft, or or the army or

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01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:28,799
Speaker 1: women this way set in an alternate universe and alternate

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01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: dimension maybe where women are literally the world's army. We

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: are the driving force behind peace, we are the driving

1447
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: force behind safety. Men play a much larger role in

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01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: the parenting of the children. And um, we have it's

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01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: it's it's literally all the quote unquote jobs are flipped.

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01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: But I love that you mentioned the vulnerability because the

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01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: power that is in these which is these women, these armies,

1452
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: is the fact that they are vulnerable, They are sensual,

1453
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: they are um scared. You know, all of those things

1454
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: that are taken to be weaknesses for women are toned

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01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: into a strength. And it's a beautiful thing to see.

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Speaker 1: Now this show we're talking about Motherland's Motherland for Salem.

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01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 1: That's going to be premier now Wednesday, March eighteenth on

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01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: free Form nine pm an Standard time a pm Central

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Speaker 1: Time Standard time. Now, when I was watching the trailer,

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Speaker 1: I got the feeling that you had. It was it

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01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: was a lot of physical Oh god, yes, Okay, So

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01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: so you're you're tall, okay, running under the wires and

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01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: a lot of brown and crawling and things like that.

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01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: Talk about that aspect. You know, have you done anything

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01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: that physical in your acting career. I have never been

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01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: blessed with the opportunity to be so straight and battered

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01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: for money. Um. It was. It was a really cool thing.

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing that drew me to it, you know.

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Speaker 1: I nineteen was about trying different roles, things that people

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Speaker 1: hadn't seen me in m in the House Divided, I

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Speaker 1: play a villain. I'm always the good girl. I'm always

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Speaker 1: cheated on, you know, I always have a redemptive quality,

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Speaker 1: and this is just such a total departure from that.

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Speaker 1: I love that, you know, those those those qualities of

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Speaker 1: the characters. Y Charis is a fool, but with within

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Speaker 1: a cost in Motherland for Salem, getting in there and

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01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: having to really dig deep and find those places when

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01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think I had the strength, when I didn't

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01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: think I had the power, um, and still figuring out

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01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 1: how to be compassionate while being a drill sergeant of sorts.

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01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like a female Wesley's Nights in that thing.

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01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: It's really really dope. It's really cool because because you know,

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Speaker 1: I saw like three and they sent me the official trailer,

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01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: sound like like two or three more trailers because I

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01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: got excited when I saw that trailer. That was right,

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01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: because the other trailers go back and so talk about

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Speaker 1: the history a little bit. The one that they put

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Speaker 1: out officially just talks about the immediate you know, the media,

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01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 1: you guys being trained, You guys have these powers failing

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01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: and that's why I saw the vulnerability. But it's all

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01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: some good trailers out there that show how you guys

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Speaker 1: were creative, your your your past that made this opportunity

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Speaker 1: in the future. And so so what is exactly your

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Speaker 1: Are you a lead or you are from a standpoint

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Speaker 1: of one of the people one of the drill sergeants

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Speaker 1: in there, because it's a military format, you're training as

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Speaker 1: soldiers to protect the world, but you have these special powers.

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Speaker 1: What is your power? I am drill sergeant Anacostia quartermain,

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Speaker 1: and I am the main person that teaches all of

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Speaker 1: the new recruits. All of the young ladies who are

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Speaker 1: involved in the draft have to come through me at

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Speaker 1: some point to make sure that they are ready for life,

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01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: death and war. Period point blanket. In the midst of that,

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01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: they're learning how to harness if they even know what

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01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: their powers are, their specific power, while understanding how to

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01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: do all of these other things that will help them

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Speaker 1: in the warcraft. So I do everything. There are seers,

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Speaker 1: there are nowhere's there are healers. Anacostia does everything. That's

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Speaker 1: why I have to be a drill sergeant. I have

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01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: to be able to help them learn how to tap

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01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: into that in your life. Oh absolutely, I'm everyone. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Anacosta is not about that your breakout, so no good will.

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Speaker 1: I can't compete. I barely hating what you're talking. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling to these talent of the people coming on

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Speaker 1: my show, just gonna bust out on a note. You know,

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01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm going like I put her headphone, but she actually

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01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: singing that that wasn't bad. That was bad. That was bad.

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Speaker 1: Don't you do me like that? Now? This this when

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Speaker 1: you when you see a show like this and you

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01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: see how marvel in d C. I say, DC as

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Speaker 1: well has slip the script on women empowering women. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel good about it? Is this the right time

1523
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: to present a series like that to America without a question,

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01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: without questions? And you know, you mentioned Marvel and you

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01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 1: and you mentioned um d C. But you know it's

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01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: free form is part of the umbrella that is Disney. Yes, absolutely,

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01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: Disney has also brought us Mulan like there there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of this that's kind of been there. But

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Speaker 1: I think that the timing is so necessary because of

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Speaker 1: the temperature that's going on in our in our culture,

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01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: in our sitting in our country, you know, where we

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Speaker 1: have to band together and we have to show the

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Speaker 1: strength everybody's been talking about, you know, equality and women's

1534
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: rights and done it up, but this is really really

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01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: harnessing it. And all right is to be vulnerable while

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Speaker 1: we're strong, all right. Is to be pure while we're sensual,

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01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: all right, And we have so many different rights. And

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Speaker 1: the thing is, while we're showing all of these strengths

1539
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: of womanhood and hear me, roar and all of that

1540
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: other stuff, we're also bringing the men in and we're

1541
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: showing their strength in a different way. It's really really

1542
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: quite beautiful the way that Elliott Lawrence, the creator of

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01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 1: this show What's Up man Um has has kind of

1544
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: orchestrated this thing like he's just the house of pain.

1545
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: So naturally you are. You do have comic comedy chops. Okay,

1546
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna go on our next week. I want to

1547
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: bring up there the return of the House of Pain,

1548
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about more about the Saints

1549
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: and Centers and House Divided because and also we're gonna

1550
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: recap more about the Motherland, which is to show us

1551
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: premier and Wednesday March. But the thing I just want

1552
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: to commend you on your You are articulate from from

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Speaker 1: from the standpoint of a from a from a motivational

1554
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Speaker 1: speaker standpoint. Do you do many speeching speaking engagements. I

1555
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: love to talk to young ladies, especially on African American ladies,

1556
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: to let them know the power they possess, like I

1557
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: absolutely like and you can do it. You gotta, you gotta,

1558
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: you got, you got a natural skill. And uh I

1559
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Speaker 1: had Roxanne Chante on the show and uh, just amazing.

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Speaker 1: You know how you always I'm always I always admire

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Speaker 1: the sentence after sentence, and it's just a thought of

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Speaker 1: being able to so natural and you have that gift. God.

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Speaker 1: We're hearing with Dmitria McKenney. She is what was Can

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Speaker 1: amazing things you guys are doing it not just being

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Speaker 1: on the radiome like at that time and even now,

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Speaker 1: you know people want to put people in boxes. Please

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Speaker 1: the talented Dmitru McKinney. Um. She's a singer stage television

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Speaker 1: and I love when we started talking about hassle pain,

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01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: you said, Mr Perry, Why why did you not say

1612
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: just Tyler Perry? Why did you say Mr Perry. It's

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Speaker 1: just just the relationship, the reverence of the mentoring. It's

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Speaker 1: a combination of things, the mentoring, the respect um, the

1615
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: realization that he has earned a lot of respect and

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Speaker 1: sometimes he doesn't always get it. So every chance I

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Speaker 1: get to say thank you, even if it is with

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01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: just a Mr Perry, or if it is you know,

1619
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Speaker 1: people asking my story and saying hey, it started with

1620
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Speaker 1: Mr Perry. It continues. You know. I've had these other

1621
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 1: avenues and these other things, but I'll always be back home.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just really thankful for me. So you're back home.

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Speaker 1: I noticed the cast is pretty much back to Lance Groves,

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Speaker 1: my girl. So I know Cassie Davis way back in

1625
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Speaker 1: the day. She's crazy in the kind of way. Yeah,

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01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 1: you absolutely can sing too. She can sing to uh,

1627
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Speaker 1: Levan Davis, Alan Paine's back, who am I missing? China McClean,

1628
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Speaker 1: d Shaw, Everybody's back, the Twins, Hayden and Jade in

1629
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Speaker 1: their back like he brought in a puppy and everybody

1630
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Speaker 1: and the shot in his new studios. Right. Yeah, So

1631
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Speaker 1: when you got the call, you already got are three

1632
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: shows happening out there, number four. That's a blessing. I'm

1633
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: not teaching because of the fact that I always talk

1634
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,560
Speaker 1: about multiple streams of income on this show, and it

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01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: means being able. To me, you've been able to You're

1636
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: doing it and right in front of us, in front

1637
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: as far as an acting capacity, but on a television format,

1638
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: which is even more difficult. You can get away with

1639
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: in the film. But to do what you're doing in

1640
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: intelligence format, it's really slick. It's been, it's been different.

1641
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: It's been you know, And you say, be careful what

1642
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Speaker 1: you asked where you might get it. I'm so grateful

1643
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 1: to ask. So what that be is? You know, because

1644
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 1: I've had talented actresses and actors on the show like that.

1645
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: How do you how do you go through the process

1646
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 1: of prepping for these scripts because they all each one

1647
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: of those shows are different, very different. You have a sitcom,

1648
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: you have an action adventure in Motherland sitcoms, Tyler Perry Show,

1649
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,839
Speaker 1: and then Satan Sentators that's like over the top drama,

1650
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: you know. And then a House Divided you play a villain,

1651
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:27,759
Speaker 1: a niving character. You know. So those are four different. Okay,

1652
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Speaker 1: who am I talking to now? You know? Like I said,

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01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: I you know, I think that. I think that because

1654
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: I've always grown up kind of watching people. I'm gonna

1655
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 1: people watch The Observer forever and I take no parents,

1656
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Speaker 1: not on your doll, got like nine people rushing to

1657
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 1: the front um. But I've always kind of kept these

1658
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: stories in the back of my head because I'm like,

1659
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: I might be able to play that personally. You know,

1660
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the restaurant and people thinking, Oh, she's

1661
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: looking at my food. Nope, why are you eating it?

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Speaker 1: He just broke up, he's with this person. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's a scandal. It work. You know, Like I'm thinking

1664
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: of those things. So when I get an opportunity to

1665
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: play each of these different people, I kind of already

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01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: know them. And then I'm building off of the foundation

1667
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: of what I think they might represent in somebody else

1668
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Speaker 1: that I've met. Okay, so these are all television opportunities

1669
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Speaker 1: that I'm talking about talking about film. Where are we

1670
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: at with that? I want to do that, um a

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Speaker 1: lot more. I've done a little bit of the big screen.

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01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: But I'm having so much fun with the longevity that

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Speaker 1: comes with television series, Like you know, money management and

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01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: people don't know that wealth building and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: People don't understand when you're an actor and you're not working. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you get residuals, but they start to do in the

1677
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: left and when you're out of a job, you're out

1678
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: of a job. You an So, you know, I like

1679
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: the longevity that comes with television shows, especially with the

1680
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: blessings that I've had, you know, Saints and Centers. If

1681
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: we come back to season five The House Divided, we

1682
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: knocked out two seasons in one year, Motherland, we were

1683
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: filming for six months in Vancouver, um and then how

1684
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: the House of Pain like that just I don't even

1685
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: need to say nothing about that one, you know. So

1686
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: being able to really have that longevity, I am a

1687
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: single mother and knowing where my next dime is coming

1688
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: from has been very very important. But hallelujah, he's grown out.

1689
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: So I'm ready to spread my wings. Jesus A good word.

1690
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 1: You know. Can you cook? Or what are your balance? See?

1691
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: Now why you got to custom me on? I got

1692
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: to because I got to find a flaw. Okay, you've

1693
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: not different characters and nothing. You can sing and you're tall,

1694
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: so cooking you can't cook? No, I can make a

1695
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: mean reservation. Whatever you want to go and problem my

1696
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 1: son cook okay. And you you're not acting on this

1697
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: no skill, no, okay, it ain't what you want. Burn

1698
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: stuff yourself you want that, So that's not part of

1699
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: the balance life now, I mean I can't. I just

1700
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: don't like to, Okay, So make a mean reservation, mean reservation.

1701
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: I'll clean up, okay. So just we're just we're just

1702
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: talking out to balance life portion. How about working out?

1703
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: Do you work out? I love to work out, okay,

1704
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: your stretcher, hot yoga or pilates, hot yoga, pilates, zoomba,

1705
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I'll do weights like I like variety. Okay. Cool. So

1706
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: that keeps you that kind of prepped you for Motherland Salem. Okay?

1707
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Was there a training period for you in that series.

1708
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 1: We were there a month early in training, and we're

1709
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: using different kinds of weapons, you know, and and a

1710
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: lot of the which things of old you know, you

1711
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: saw Pippity Poppity book. They gotta stick. They got a

1712
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: book they gotta you know, we're doing different things. The

1713
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: weapons are different Pippity Puppity book, you know, like Cinderella,

1714
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: Billy Poppins and stuff. You know your character, you know,

1715
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: so we're doing a lot of different stuff. But even

1716
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 1: with that came a whole lot of physical training for

1717
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,560
Speaker 1: about a month before we even got started filming. In

1718
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: that process, you know, did it anything that they did it?

1719
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: You know, like did you ever hit the wall? Like? Wow,

1720
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it to be this much physical training.

1721
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I hit a wall. I think I

1722
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 1: woke up a couple of times with my left eye

1723
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: very like shifted over there um And there were parts

1724
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: of me that hurt that. I mean, I've been and

1725
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: I was a basketball player, I ran track, you know,

1726
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: I was always been very physical. But the physicality that

1727
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: came with this, and not only that, the mental stretch

1728
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: that I had to do because I'm completely outside of

1729
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: my my comfort zone. And I'm doing this with five

1730
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: other ladies, right, right, so we all had to be

1731
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: on one of course. Oh yeah, we're in. It's still

1732
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 1: a military thing, so there's still drills and there's still

1733
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 1: ordered to this. Okay, cool, So let's we were We

1734
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: know that's coming out of March A Teams as they released,

1735
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: they've been set for Tyler Perry's not yet, not yet,

1736
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: there's still in. I'm pretty sure it's going to be.

1737
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: They're still in production. I've already I can get you

1738
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 1: back for that. Oh yeah, let's go. Okay, cool. Now

1739
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: let's talk about we we've mentioned the name of these

1740
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 1: other two other series. Just give us more detail about

1741
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: your character on Saintan Centers, which is own Bounced TV

1742
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: sts the Centers, I play Miss Austin. She is no

1743
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: longer Callaguae because she didn't divorce Myles. Y'all better keep up.

1744
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: And it comes on Sundays, right, it comes on I

1745
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: believe Sundays because it's really highly rated. It's one of

1746
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 1: the it's one of the highest rated shows they've got.

1747
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: But it's it's really cool because she in the world

1748
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: of Centers, she is kind of the lamb, but She's

1749
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: starting to come out of that a little bit. You know,

1750
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: if you get bit enough, you start to bite back

1751
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: because you know you're at the mercy of writers. But

1752
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: they're very smart. I've been blessed to work with some really,

1753
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 1: really smart writers. They don't allow us to be one

1754
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: dimensional in any stretch of the imagine because you know,

1755
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: this series is very popular, you know, and it's from

1756
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: our It's kind of like you know, we always asked for,

1757
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm talking about I'm going to daytime

1758
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 1: soap proper, you know, and it has that feel strong

1759
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: nighttime so proper with everybody connecting the doctor really cool

1760
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: and you're being a part of that. Now, what comes

1761
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: with that is social media recognition? How how do you

1762
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: how do you deal with at when people are recognizing

1763
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: you in public? How do you post? Are you? Are

1764
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: you very savvy as what you post on your social media?

1765
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 1: Talk about that. I recognize that social media is a window,

1766
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: and I can make that window dirty or I can

1767
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 1: make it clean. So I want them to get the

1768
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 1: best impression of who I am. I try to make

1769
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: sure that I talk about my natural hair. I'm trying

1770
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: to include things about my son. I love you boy, um,

1771
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, and then I try to make sure that

1772
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,560
Speaker 1: people understand the different work that I have going on.

1773
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: But I don't want to give away any teasers. And

1774
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: I also understand the responsibility that comes with the kind

1775
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: of platform that I have, right so when it comes

1776
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 1: to posting, I'm very very particular, but fun with ok

1777
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: let's talk about something that you popped up because it's

1778
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: real big natural hair. Yeah, I mean, okay, what is it?

1779
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: What are the it's I'm assuming naturally curly? Yes, okay,

1780
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: And so are you tied to any brands? Are you

1781
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: looking for any brands to tire your your look to

1782
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: or you just say this is my style, I'm gonna promoted.

1783
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I feel I'm blessed to have this skill set like

1784
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: mine is that can to do so her she's big

1785
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: into her natural you know, and always touching it and

1786
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: everything here, I'll touching my ball and you know, that's

1787
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: what I got to work by. I got it. I

1788
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 1: had it back in the day from two girls. Did

1789
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: you know me back then? You wouldn't. I was too

1790
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 1: much trouble and so he don't be acting on wander.

1791
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: So the whole natural look that you why is it

1792
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 1: so big. Nowadays, I think it's just for me and

1793
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: I can only speak on my behalf. It was about

1794
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 1: really embracing everything of me. You know, I didn't know

1795
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: what my natural hair texture was. I didn't understand it,

1796
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: and once I got it, I didn't know what to

1797
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 1: do with it. We was gonna fight forever um and

1798
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 1: I've just gotten to a point where now I recognized that,

1799
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: just like any other relationship, it's strengthened the relationship and

1800
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: the time that I take for myself. You know, a

1801
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: lot of naturals. I know you don't want to get

1802
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: up that wash day is a food moisturizing and ceiling

1803
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,719
Speaker 1: can be a funky mess. You don't know which products

1804
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 1: to you use, But use that time to just spend

1805
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 1: with yourself, like, let that be your youth time. Especially

1806
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: the single moms, the working moms that were just women

1807
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 1: in general. A lot of times we don't take time

1808
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: for ourselves, and with this, this was my time to

1809
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 1: get to know me. Okay, cool, Let's let's deal with stereotypes. Okay, cool,

1810
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Like complexion, generally your hair is straightened, Yeah, okay, cool?

1811
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: Did you have to deal with that? Oh? Yeah, I

1812
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 1: was very afraid especially with my industry. I didn't know

1813
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 1: how the jobs were going to come once I started

1814
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 1: to rock my fro. But now everybody wants me to

1815
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: keep it like free form. I love them. I love them.

1816
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: They are so so so continued. They are adamant about

1817
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: making sure that they include diversity and just inclusion general.

1818
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: And when I walked in with my fro for my audition,

1819
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 1: they were like, Anacostia has a fro, we would love

1820
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: for you to keep your fro. And I absolutely adored that.

1821
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, I didn't. I'm sure it was exciting to

1822
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: hear based on the type of acting you have to

1823
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,560
Speaker 1: do in that military form, and if you would have

1824
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 1: to straighten your hair would probably been a big problem. Man.

1825
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 1: I always wondered what I do if I the Gt.

1826
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Jane moment where they were like, you know, can you

1827
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: shave your head? Let's go pray you wouldn't do it.

1828
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's checks out there. It depends on

1829
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,560
Speaker 1: the checks. There's checks, and you know, I'm sure you

1830
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 1: know zero's equal bald heads. That's right. I'm glad you

1831
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: understand that. You see my head ball tied to this baldness. Okay,

1832
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: and just let you know that your ball got balled

1833
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 1: for a reason. Okay, I used to have a barber

1834
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 1: come by my house one day. I'm gonna go zero

1835
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 1: you out. Now. One series we have not talked about

1836
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: it is the U m c'siden talk about that. How

1837
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: did you get started? And what season is it? We've

1838
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: done two seasons already. Um. I played Carrissa. Carrissa, Carrissa,

1839
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. She comes from the wrong side of

1840
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 1: the tracks, but she's always she was ray her parents,

1841
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 1: her dad was had a habit. She's been with the Steelers,

1842
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 1: she's been with the robbers, She's been she is raised

1843
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: in that life. And she's connected with this wealthy man

1844
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 1: and somehow gotten his wife out of the way, and

1845
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: now she had moved herself right on in and she's

1846
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 1: freaking havoc every which way she goes. It's really, really,

1847
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 1: um a fun departure from anything I've ever done, and

1848
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 1: I get to explore some facets that you know, it's

1849
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,600
Speaker 1: funny you step into these shoes, but you also have

1850
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: to step into this mindset and when you get to

1851
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: kind of feel the inner workings of somebody, you know,

1852
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 1: kind of maniacal, but saying at the same time, it's

1853
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: different kind of feeling. She's fun. Well, all your characters

1854
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,560
Speaker 1: are fine. The thing that my biggest takeaway from you

1855
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: here enjoying your life, the opportunity that are being presented

1856
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 1: to you, and you're taking advantage of it. It doesn't

1857
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 1: feel you know, we all know it's work. You know

1858
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: you have to get up at a certain time. Yet

1859
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: sometimes said hours run longer than what they should be,

1860
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 1: and sometimes there's conditions on what they should be. But

1861
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: just about dealing with it and being a professional. It's

1862
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,839
Speaker 1: about maintaining relationships, I think and I feel you understand

1863
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: the value of relationships. This whole business is relationships. It's

1864
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 1: uh likability, and then it's talent. You know, your talent

1865
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: can get you in the door. But if people like you,

1866
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: if people understand that you are a hard worker, if

1867
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 1: people understand that you won't waste their time, you know,

1868
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: and on the other end, you've got to be doing

1869
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 1: your due diligence to do your savings. I'm teaching my

1870
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: son about credit and what that means and how to

1871
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 1: make sure that you're saving and getting your life together

1872
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: so that should God say, you know what comes saying

1873
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 1: up here, you're ready, you know, um, just really really

1874
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: understanding the business of it, but also understanding the relationships

1875
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: and the talent that comes with it. I'm talking to

1876
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: Dmitria McKinney. She's the star of the new series. I'm saying,

1877
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: star knows other people, but I'm interviewing you. So you

1878
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 1: my star of the new series Motherland for Sailor. It's

1879
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: said it's a it's a series of drama. When our

1880
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 1: drama that said, let's just say action drama. Action drama

1881
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 1: was said in an alternate America where which is? She said,

1882
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Speaker 1: did their persecution over three years back. Couldn't they deal

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Speaker 1: with the US government to fight government? That's a government

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Speaker 1: to the government. Good know what? A little come out

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Speaker 1: somehow say, I tried, I said government. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: I said government, US government. Keep that in government. Understand

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Speaker 1: where I came from. And straightfre for and I ate

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Speaker 1: some good ma cheese. Okay, if you go to walburg

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Speaker 1: they remember men you they have good ma cheese. No,

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Speaker 1: they don't, just they do. If you go to Walburger

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Speaker 1: Burgers they have you can get goovernment cheese. Okay, right

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Speaker 1: up there for with your handburgers. Okay, let me just

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Speaker 1: say the cut. They deal with the U. S. Government

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Speaker 1: to fight for their country. As we wrap up, just

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Speaker 1: tell us about the series so we can drive people

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Speaker 1: there on March eighteenth, which is a Wednesday on Free Farm,

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Speaker 1: which is a was a part of the parent company

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Speaker 1: of Disney ABC. That whole world out there, and Free

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Speaker 1: watched them on the regular basis, so it's not a

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Speaker 1: network that I'm you know, not foreign too, So tell

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Speaker 1: us about the show as we go, come join us

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Speaker 1: on the trip that is Motherland. You get to experience

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Speaker 1: a whole new world. You get to experience and the

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Speaker 1: ups and downs are becoming a warrior, a witch, a woman.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of different twists and turns.

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Speaker 1: It's exciting us all get out and I'm on there,

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I'm on here, so come on

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Speaker 1: over free Form. And also I believe that there's a

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Speaker 1: connection to Hulu, So if you don't necessarily know how

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Speaker 1: to get to that, stay tuned and Hulu will be

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Speaker 1: releasing information for that as well, and then this summer

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Speaker 1: you'll be coming back to promote the returning to the house.

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud of that train is my boy. So

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Speaker 1: I love to bring a p up here. Yeah, come on,

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Speaker 1: and Cassie I had on the show last season, and

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Speaker 1: so I probably I might hate you to get as

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Speaker 1: many many many Davis. I know him, and so if

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Speaker 1: I can get like four or five, but let's just

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Speaker 1: just make a fun, fun evening morning or even whatever

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Speaker 1: time I can get him up, let's better be ready.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be ready because because I can know how

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Speaker 1: to talk, I know I can hell you. And you

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Speaker 1: you actually with nine people up here, so I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you bringing up four, Well, you just trained me, you

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Speaker 1: just trained ready. Stay again. I want to thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on my show. Money Making Conversation is a

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Speaker 1: show that I put together just to be able to

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Speaker 1: have nice interviews for talent like you to come on

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Speaker 1: the show. We talk about what your contributions are currently.

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Speaker 1: But there's a journey, and the journey people need to hear,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully the stories that you've shared with my listeners

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Speaker 1: will allow them to see that she did it, and

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Speaker 1: she did she's doing it her way, and that she

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Speaker 1: didn't manipulate anything. She didn't. She didn't do anything that

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Speaker 1: made her feel uncomfortable to be successful. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having my next guests. Grew up in South

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Speaker 1: Calendada's low Country. Give me my next guest. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: lavery by note when you said low And we're live

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Speaker 1: here outside the Perez family home, just waiting for the

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Speaker 1: and there they go, almost on time. This morning. Mom

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Speaker 1: is coming out the front door, strong with a double

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Speaker 1: arm kid carry. Looks like Dad has the bags. Daughter

1946
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Speaker 1: is bringing up the rear. Oh but the diaper bag

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Speaker 1: wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. Oh but mom

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Speaker 1: has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle for the toddler.

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Speaker 1: And now the eldest daughter, who looks to be about

1950
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Speaker 1: nine or ten, has secured herself in the booster seat.

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Speaker 1: Dad zips the bad clothes and they're off. But looks

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Speaker 1: like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is still on

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Speaker 1: the roof of the car and there it goes. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't

1955
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Speaker 1: sweat the small stuff, just nail the big stuff, like

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Speaker 1: making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the right

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Speaker 1: seat for their agent's eyes. Learn more n h t

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Speaker 1: h s A dot gov slash The Right Seat, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Mizza and the ad Council. If I

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Speaker 1: could be you and you could be me for just

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Speaker 1: one hour, if you could find a way to get

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Speaker 1: inside each other's mind, walk a mile in my shoes,

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Speaker 1: wac a mile in my shoes shoes. We've all felt

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Speaker 1: left out, and for some that feeling lasts more than

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Speaker 1: a moment. We can change that. Learn how it Belonging

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Speaker 1: begins with us dot org. Brought to you by the

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Speaker 1: ad Council. Welcome Out. The adoption of teams from foster

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Speaker 1: care is a topic not enough people know about, and

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Speaker 1: we're here to change that. I'm April Dinuity, host of

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Speaker 1: the new podcast Navigating Adoption, presented by adopt us Kids.

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Speaker 1: Each episode brings you compelling, real life adoption stories told

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Speaker 1: by the families that lived them, with commentary from experts.

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Speaker 1: Visit adopt us Kids dot org slash podcast or subscribed

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Speaker 1: to Navigating Adoption presented by adopt us Kids, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the U. S Department of Health. And Human

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Speaker 1: Services Administration for Children and Families and the ad Council Country.

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Speaker 1: That's a different world down there. Good eating world down there,

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Speaker 1: good people world down there. My next guest grew up

1980
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Speaker 1: in South Carolina's Low Country. Is a well renowned, world

1981
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Speaker 1: renowned opera singer and the winner of both a Grammy

1982
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Speaker 1: Award and Tony Award for the cast recording of Poor

1983
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Speaker 1: Game Beast by George Gershan with the Houston Grand Opera.

1984
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Speaker 1: Everybody knows I'm from Houston, Texas. He is also a

1985
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Speaker 1: James Beard Award winning chef and restaurant tour You have

1986
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: seen him as a judge on Top Chef, appeared on

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Speaker 1: the Food Network on such shows as Recipe for Success

1988
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Speaker 1: and Throw Down with Bobby Flay and NBC's To Do That,

1989
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Speaker 1: NBC's That Today's Show. It's a new cookbook, Out Meals

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Speaker 1: music and music recipes from My African American Kitchen by

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Speaker 1: af American Kitchen. He's in James Board, James Beard Award

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Speaker 1: winning chef and restaurateur. Please welcome to money making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: For the very first time, I'm gonna call him a

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Speaker 1: good friend because I like the way you're talking. I

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Speaker 1: like the way you eat, my man, Alexander Smalls right

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Speaker 1: there to be here. Well, how you doing, my friend,

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you thanks for having me. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know on my show money Making Conversations we have,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the book. But I would like

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01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: to take people on the journey and how we got

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01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,679
Speaker 1: to this book because you have a very interesting bio,

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01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 1: which is incredible. You know, you come from the low

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Speaker 1: Country are of South Carolina. Can you give us a

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Speaker 1: little bit of how you started in life and how

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Speaker 1: you arrived at this point. Well, you know, I was

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Speaker 1: very very fortunate with loved ones, uh, family and friends

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Speaker 1: surrounding me, and at an early age, I took to music.

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Speaker 1: Music was how I expressed myself and how I realized

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Speaker 1: my own sort of artistic talents. Um. And then I

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Speaker 1: discovered that those same instincts translated into the kitchen and

2011
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Speaker 1: I would spend time with with my mother. My most

2012
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Speaker 1: favorite time was preparation for Sunday dinner on Saturday nights.

2013
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Speaker 1: It's the Sunday morning and uh. And I had an

2014
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Speaker 1: uncle who was a chef and an aunt who was

2015
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Speaker 1: a classical pianist, and they they shaped really my education

2016
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Speaker 1: and my artistic expression. I could go to their house

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Speaker 1: and play the piano and get a cooking lesson. What

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Speaker 1: did the singing lesson come in? Did that part come in? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a as a young boy, oddly enough,

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Speaker 1: I was fascinated by opera and opera singers and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, some of us remember the Ed Sullivan shows.

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Speaker 1: I remember it. I remember Hunting Ground Well Ed Sullivan

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Speaker 1: would have on opera singers Land Team Price, Marion Anderson

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Speaker 1: and Clyde Burned, Classgow pianist and uh and John Sutherland,

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Speaker 1: all these people, and I was fascinated by it. My

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Speaker 1: father had a fantastic tenor voice and I got a

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Speaker 1: little of that. And uh, you know I was in

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Speaker 1: the mirror trying to reenact all these people I saw

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Speaker 1: on television. And my uncle, who was a big opera

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Speaker 1: bove which was you know, my uncle moved back to

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. He was living in Harlem for years. Uh

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Speaker 1: too when I was born to be a part of

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Speaker 1: raising you know what they thought would be, you know,

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Speaker 1: at a lawyer. But you know I had the other

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Speaker 1: plans right right right right right right love it, love it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting because in my life, you

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Speaker 1: like I said, Uh, it's similar path, you know I was.

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Speaker 1: I love musicals. I couldn't get enough of doors stay

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Speaker 1: growing up, you know, I just love it to death,

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Speaker 1: you know. And of course I was also when you

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Speaker 1: saw a black person on Ed suller Man, the neighborhood stopped. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood. You remember what people used to say, a

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Speaker 1: black persons on TV, come on, come on that hurry up,

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Speaker 1: hurry up now. It was with the world, hurry up,

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01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: because you know that said. Once that said was done,

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Speaker 1: they were gone now and you don't know when the

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Speaker 1: next was gonna come on. You know. We grew up, right,

2048
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Speaker 1: you know, we were you know, Alexander, we grew up

2049
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Speaker 1: when the when the TV went off, you know, when

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Speaker 1: the Stars Bango Banger came on. It was time to

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Speaker 1: go to bed, baby, It's time to go to bed,

2052
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Speaker 1: to flag, it's on TV. Time to go, John, come up.

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Speaker 1: But that was a great life because creatively, all we

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Speaker 1: had to do, you know, I was just think about

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01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 1: what was being offered to you. And that's what that's

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01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: a story. Like you know, my in in middle school,

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01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 1: I was a first chair of B flat clarinetis clarinet player,

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Speaker 1: and then I moved over to tenor saxophone, the alto

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Speaker 1: saxophone and UH. And then in high school I walked

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Speaker 1: away from it and I just the one that I

2061
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: just something. But you kept your crab moving along. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I said, that's a that's a blessing because

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Speaker 1: of the fact that we are here today to talk

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Speaker 1: about all the talent did you on all the experiences,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you travel worldwide? Talk about uh in

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Speaker 1: developing these various this is not your first cookbook and

2067
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: all these various rest this third one because you just

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Speaker 1: run a twenty eight teen James Beard Award correctly last

2069
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 1: book between Holland and Heaven. Yes, and it was a celebration,

2070
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 1: celebration of the food of the opaspora on five continents. Now, now,

2071
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 1: would that being said, would you call yourself a foodie

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01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: or person who just enjoys food? You know, which is

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01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,799
Speaker 1: a difference, you know, Okay, I'm gonna have to be honest.

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01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the food he is? You know,

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Speaker 1: I never and I have so many banners to wear.

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01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 1: What what I am is? Um? And it changed over

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01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 1: the years because you know, basically I started out being

2078
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: maybe what you call a foodie. Uh. And then I

2079
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:32,440
Speaker 1: became a creative actor and became a chef and restaurant

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01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 1: tour you know, I've had five restaurants, and you know

2081
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 1: then uh, then I started to interpret or use food

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01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,439
Speaker 1: to interpret heritage and legacy and where we came from,

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01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 1: our contribution. So you know, I'd have to say to

2084
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 1: you that at this point in my life, I'm a

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01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: culinary activist. There you go. That's where I've graduated to.

2086
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 1: And and that's that's important because, like I said, you know,

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01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 1: this book, we're gonna get into it. You know, the

2088
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 1: book we're talking about why he called the shows, meals, music,

2089
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 1: and muses recipes from my African American kitchen. Now let's

2090
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 1: go back to a little bit about why why that

2091
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: title for this particular book, Because, like I said, Ineen,

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Speaker 1: you won a James Beard Award for your previous cookbook

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01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:21,600
Speaker 1: right then this book, So this is like back to

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01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: back now Okay, yeah, okay, because you know I want

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01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 1: this one to win some titles too. I'm gonna tell

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01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 1: you something. I'm telling some Alexander this may win it.

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01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 1: This is a very good book. This is a very

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Speaker 1: good alone. I mean, this is a gorgeous book, and

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01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: like say something myself, but let's let's talk about who

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01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:45,240
Speaker 1: wrote the book with you. It was Veronica Chambers. And

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01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to just be major powerhouse. I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: I'll be remiss if I don't let everybody know that

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01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: she was involved in this book. And she was. She

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01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 1: was also recipient involved in between having previous Absolutely this

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01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: person here. You know, if you don't know her history

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01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 1: as a writer, you know, you know she's she's an

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01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: amazing person. And they called her, uh just a just

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01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: a person who just writes and has the skill let

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Speaker 1: a crossover that has written books with Beyonce and so

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01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 1: many other people out there. And now she did the

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01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 1: previous book with you, correct, Yeah, the Treene Holloman Heaven.

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Speaker 1: And what I would say to you about Veronica Chambers

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Speaker 1: is that she has the ability to be a non

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01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 1: intrusive writer. She has the ability to keep your voice

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01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 1: intact and your writings intact, and she she she cradles

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01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 1: it and she uh she sort of weaves uh an ambiance,

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01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 1: her landscape around your words that that takes you and

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01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 1: then she pushes you and then she helps you see

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Speaker 1: how in places to expand the narrative and to be

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Speaker 1: more inclusive. I mean, she is a brilliant soul herself,

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Speaker 1: and it's been a pleasure to do these two books

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Speaker 1: with her. Congratulations again on that because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that you want to James Beard Award for that Harland

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Speaker 1: and Heaven book that she did, what you and then

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01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 1: she's worked with Michael Strayan on his book, Robin Roberts

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Speaker 1: on her book Beyonce. It's so many, uh Cecilia Cruise

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Speaker 1: on her book. It's so many, it's so many. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's a great history of if you if you

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Speaker 1: google her name, do it. Because of the fact that

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Speaker 1: the culture that she brings in her writing style to

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Speaker 1: after the African American culture, I think it's really important

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01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: because we need writers like that, very important. You know.

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Speaker 1: What I would also say is, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: writing these books, creating any kind of work of excellence,

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Speaker 1: you need a good recipe, yes, And along with a

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01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 1: good recipe, you need excellent ingredients. And that's what I

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01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 1: feel I had on this book. I mean, you know,

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01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 1: I had some extraordinary people part of my team, uh

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01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 1: to uh Veronica who headed that to make sure that

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Speaker 1: it came to life in this Okay, cool, I'm talking

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01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:13,919
Speaker 1: to Alexandra Small's his book Meals Music and music recipes

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Speaker 1: from my African American Kitchen. Okay, more than seventy five

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Speaker 1: creole and low country recipes are in this book. Now,

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01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: this book is an interesting book because it has that

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01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 1: musical flavor in it, you know. And what I did

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01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: was I went to each chapter and I started, you know,

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01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 1: because I don't want to give away the entire book,

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01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 1: but I did select some some of my favorites from

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01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: each chapter because the pages of the they're folded. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna go to the first chapter, which is

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Speaker 1: the starters chapter, and I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna

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01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 1: try to make this this weekend. Carolina bourbon, barbecue, shrump

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01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 1: and oakrah skewers. Yes, you're in part of treat my friends.

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01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 1: And interestingly enough, in this chapter, which is called Jazz Jazz,

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01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 1: the the the that recipe is not only a wonderful starter,

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01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 1: but it's also a nice on trade. Yes it is.

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01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 1: And that's why I was kind of confused when I

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01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 1: saw a starters. I want this feels like a meal,

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01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 1: but nothing negative When I say that but it was

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01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 1: like in the in the pictures of the picture of

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01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:18,839
Speaker 1: it is fantastic. By the way, like you said earlier,

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01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 1: the photographs in the book, the storytelling of the artists

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01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: that you're featuring it to sell these chapter was really elegant.

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01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 1: It's really it's like you know, it's if it was

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Speaker 1: not a recipe book, Alexander, you could actually put this

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Speaker 1: on your table. And yes, so I do. I mean,

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01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, that's the the whole idea is that you

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01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 1: should be able to eat with your eyes uh and

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Speaker 1: and and your senses as you read these recipes. I

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01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: always tell people a recipe uh essentially a way to

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01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 1: get to a destination. A recipe is a guide. You know,

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01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 1: you know that you are cooking when all of a

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01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: sudden you're making my dish and something says to you,

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01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 1: I need a little sentiment in that I need a

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01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 1: little and that you know, a little pitch of human

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01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 1: I know it's not here, but that's when you really

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Speaker 1: start to live a recipe and bring it to life. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know the thing about Joe book, this is what

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Speaker 1: I always tell people, because you know, I've been interviewing people,

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01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 1: uh book and Cash Show. You know, Steve Harvey was

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01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: one of my talents, and they just talk showed we

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01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 1: did Morning Drive for sixteen years together and and on

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Speaker 1: my show. I've been doing this twenty seventeen. So I've

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01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 1: gotten to read a lot of cookbooks, Alexander. So it

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01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 1: has allowed me to understand what's a good book and

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01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 1: what's a book that. Okay, I don't know what they're

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01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 1: doing over there, but they just need to stop calling

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01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 1: the cookbook, recipe book whatever they they want to get.

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01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 1: This is outstanding. This book is out standing. I'm gonna

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01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 1: tell you why because listen to this quick recipe. I'm

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01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 1: gonna give everybody before we go to break the Carolina

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01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 1: bourbon barbecue shrimping oakrook scures. This is quick right here.

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Speaker 1: Six was the scures twelve medium ok, eighteen large trump

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01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: vegetable as salt and pepper, two cups of Carolina barbecue sauce,

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01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: and you tell everybody how to make it. Now, if

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01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 1: that's not gonna run you out of the kitchen, that

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01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna keep in the kitchen. And that's what a

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01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 1: lot of recipe books do. They run you out because

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Speaker 1: you go, I can't do that, that's too hard because

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01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 1: the measurements get they get caught up into measurements and

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Speaker 1: the accuracy. This feels like I'm in the kitchen with

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Speaker 1: my mom, you know, because you if you're gonna kitch

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01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: your mom, if there are no such things as measuring cups,

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01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 1: it will confuse you because if it is a measuring cup,

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01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 1: you can't even read the numbers on the side anymore. Okay,

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01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: so she knows what the carter is, a half a

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01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 1: third and all that stuff. Uh, if you if you

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01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 1: don't know, if you don't believe it, work with her.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's hard to get recipes from elders, because

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01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 1: they just cook it. They just bake it, and we're

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01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 1: in there trying to go how much is that? Is

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01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:48,880
Speaker 1: that a pitch? It's that pinched me? That's an eight?

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01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 1: Just grab some stuff and putting that boy going by

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01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 1: my business. That's what I felt your book was. I

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01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 1: felt your book was like usually going, you're out my way, y'all,

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01:58:57,760 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 1: I'll just messing up my kitchen. I just see Alaxada

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01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 1: the coming to get well, y'all, just get out, just

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01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 1: get out of the kitchen. I got this. I don't

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01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 1: need to be an intimidating moment for you. You know,

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01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 1: the recipe is are meant to be used. Is not

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Speaker 1: just a book that you look at the nice pictures

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01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:20,400
Speaker 1: and go oh how nice? Which I could make that? No,

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01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 1: you can make it. Yes and yes, and this is

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01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: what we've created here. Wow, and you created something specially.

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01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna be right back from my man. I hope

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01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 1: you enjoying this because I'm enjoying because we're about to

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Speaker 1: get into some more recipes and go through each chapter

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01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, just to give you a journey, because

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01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 1: each chapter has a story to tell as to why

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01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 1: he's doing it and how he's selling it. Also, more importantly,

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01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 1: he has a spiritual chapter and he has a gospel chapter,

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Speaker 1: and I want to know the difference between the two.

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Speaker 1: Were right back with more money Making Conversations and my guests,

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Speaker 1: Jane's Beard Awardee, Grammy Awardee, Tony Award Awardee Alexander Smalls.

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations continues online at www. Dot money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations dot com and follow money Making Conversations on Facebook, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and Instagram. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time you stop thinking

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Speaker 1: about your dreams and put some plans into action. I

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02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 1: just Rushan McDonald, you're listening to money making conversations. My

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Speaker 1: Guests is a tune in nine team receiptient of a

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Speaker 1: James Burard Award for his cookbook Between Hall and and Heaven.

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02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 1: He was recently bestowed The Creative Spirit of War from

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02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 1: the Black Alumna Pratt by the infamous Cicily Tyson on

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02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 1: the show today. It's a new book out, and I'm

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02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:42,480
Speaker 1: really excited about this book to share with my audience

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02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:44,840
Speaker 1: because you know, everybody knows how I love food. Uh,

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02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 1: my birthday is tomorrow, so everybody knows I will be

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02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:50,920
Speaker 1: eating Upper Storm desserts left and right, and I'll be

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02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:53,480
Speaker 1: posting it all on my social media. This book right

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Speaker 1: here I want to post on my social media. It's

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Speaker 1: called Meals, Music and Music Recipes from my African American Kitchen.

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02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:01,919
Speaker 1: This man is from the low Country of South Carolina.

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02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 1: His name is Alexandra Small. Now, when I keep saying

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02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 1: low country, what do you explain to everybody what I'm

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02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 1: talking about when I say low country, Alexander, The low

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Speaker 1: country is below sea level. Low country is something part

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Speaker 1: of South Carolina, the out of bank um out of

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02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 1: banks of Georgia. So you you down there in Gech Island.

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02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:29,280
Speaker 1: There you go, and I mean good food, good people

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02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 1: down there. You know what I'm saying. It's a it's

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02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 1: a lot of water down there, so mosquitoes will kill you.

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02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm just going down there. You need to go down there. Brother,

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02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 1: If you've got problems with mosquitoes, you don't want to

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02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 1: go down to Charleston Low Country area. I'm just gonna

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02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:45,480
Speaker 1: let you know about that right now. You know, oh,

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02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:46,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm

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02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 1: talking about. So so when I when I when I

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02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 1: go through this book and I started reading these various chapters,

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02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about why you name each chapter where you

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02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 1: named it before we get into other recipes there. Alexander, Well,

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02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a really question, my friend. Um, you know,

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02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 1: it's really about my life lens of musical discipline, you know,

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02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: and and certainly coming from a southern family. My mother

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02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 1: was episcopaling, but my father was Baptist, so you know,

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02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:21,840
Speaker 1: Baptist one out. And you know, while mother was not, uh,

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02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: she would kind of roll our eyes when the folks

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02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: started shouting and carrying on. Um, she was respectful, Wasn't

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02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 1: that saying, so, you know in the South, I mean

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02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 1: you're there with the richness of music and and African

2280
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 1: American music was foundational. Um I was the odd kid

2281
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 1: who was seeing classical music and residing Shakespeare. Uh and

2282
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 1: like where where did that boy come from? You know?

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02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 1: But you know it was part of my life. So

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02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 1: at this reason in my life, I like to say

2285
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 1: I now have a view of life. Um. You know,

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02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 1: I have had several careers, pursued several interests and passions.

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02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:15,560
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate to indulge all of my passions

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02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:20,400
Speaker 1: and joys and still doing so. But what really shaped

2289
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 1: my life was food in music. And so how could

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02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:26,640
Speaker 1: I bring those two things together in a way that

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02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 1: essentially shares with the world who I am and what

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02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 1: is important to me at the same time to share

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02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:38,760
Speaker 1: my gifts and and uh give them a little great

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02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's really it's special that you're saying it

2295
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:44,200
Speaker 1: that way, because when I think about let's talk about

2296
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 1: the African American community, you know, music and food, you

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02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 1: know backyard you know, you know, whenever the food, what

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Speaker 1: happens when the food is really good, we start humming

2299
02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 1: saying no, no, no, We've seen well things when we're

2300
02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:00,440
Speaker 1: making it, when we're eating it on. I mean, this

2301
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:10,360
Speaker 1: is Alexada Dad. We could be sitting down carrying on

2302
02:04:11,080 --> 02:04:13,880
Speaker 1: the man. You know, you know backing up. You don't

2303
02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 1: tell about alexand all. This is dude backing up and

2304
02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:21,200
Speaker 1: then coming forward. Just come on, no, you know this

2305
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 1: is why they used to say no singing at the

2306
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 1: tablet Stop that singing, boy, I'm singing at the table.

2307
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 1: Good help it. You know you've been into one of

2308
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:35,800
Speaker 1: those butter milk biscuits or or or some fried chicken

2309
02:04:36,360 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 1: or stop right there, stopping the dumpling and stop right there.

2310
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 1: Alexander Fried, I looked at that picture fried that fried

2311
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 1: chicken in the book here because see, I'm tell you man,

2312
02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:51,000
Speaker 1: I love fried chickets. Never have done it right, never

2313
02:04:51,080 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 1: have done it right. But I saw it this recipe.

2314
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:56,720
Speaker 1: I don't get it because you got buttermilk in there.

2315
02:04:57,240 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 1: I saw that fellship. Okay, I was my favorite chapter.

2316
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down to it right here because I

2317
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: have because you're like what I told you. I went

2318
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,000
Speaker 1: through various through your whole book, and I went to

2319
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:11,240
Speaker 1: one chapter. It's one chapter, the Diva's chapter. That's okay,

2320
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 1: that dishes meat and chicken. That chapter I pull about

2321
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:20,680
Speaker 1: six recipes from that chapter alone. There. Okay, Now, I

2322
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:23,040
Speaker 1: started with the Southern fried chicken that's on the page

2323
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:25,280
Speaker 1: one thirty one. So I'm ready for you. Man. What

2324
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna do is to my show and act

2325
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: like I don't know what I'm talking about. That's the one, man,

2326
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:32,800
Speaker 1: that's the one with the picture. The chicken looks just

2327
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:35,520
Speaker 1: like Kutucky fried chicken. That looking at it. Look at

2328
02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:37,280
Speaker 1: that look at it right there? You know that that

2329
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 1: looks like the original reginal recipe. I'm telling you right there,

2330
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm so mad looking at this chicken right here because

2331
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 1: it looks at Oh my goodness, I'm I'm sure he

2332
02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 1: thought I was lying, but I had to show him

2333
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:53,120
Speaker 1: the picture of that. That right that Southern fried chicken. Now,

2334
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:56,880
Speaker 1: I got me a master built you know, uh deep fryer.

2335
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 1: So I already got that. And you said, Rashan, that's

2336
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 1: what I'm I'm acting like. You're talking to me right

2337
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:06,520
Speaker 1: now with your book to two three pounds chicken to

2338
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:10,800
Speaker 1: uh of chicken cut it's eight pieces, two cups of

2339
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 1: butter milk right there. I think that's the key, right, there,

2340
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 1: there's two cups of butter milk, and you said, one

2341
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:19,000
Speaker 1: tablespoon of garlic powder, one tablespoon of onion powder, one

2342
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 1: tablespoon of cayenne pepper. That's key right there. And then

2343
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:26,040
Speaker 1: you come back with the sweet paprika. And then you

2344
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 1: gotta have that I'm saying. Then you gotta come up

2345
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 1: with that salt and pepper. Gotta have that salt and

2346
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 1: pepper right up in there. Then you came up with

2347
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:34,880
Speaker 1: the peanut all like I said, I'm good because I

2348
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:37,360
Speaker 1: got the master Bill d fry. I already got the

2349
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 1: peanut all in that. Now here's the here's the question

2350
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. When do you know that the

2351
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 1: chicken's done? You know there's that Does it float to

2352
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,320
Speaker 1: the top or how do you that's the only one.

2353
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,360
Speaker 1: That's the only thing making me nervous right now, Alex,

2354
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 1: and walk me through that last stage. Or I got

2355
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:56,040
Speaker 1: in in there. You said eight to ten minutes, turn

2356
02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 1: the pieces careful and fried to a golden brown. Usually

2357
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:01,640
Speaker 1: usually take five to six minutes. WHOA, because you know

2358
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 1: I can't I can't buy it. No, chicken is not

2359
02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 1: always done. So that's just follows. But you know The

2360
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:08,280
Speaker 1: secret is to make sure that your oil is at

2361
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:11,240
Speaker 1: the right temperature. And yes, and seeing how you have

2362
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 1: that fancy deep prior that's the temperature, because that's the key.

2363
02:07:16,720 --> 02:07:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can tell people what to do,

2364
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 1: but if they don't get that temperature right, it's gonna

2365
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 1: be a man. That's right, that's right, that's right. It's

2366
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:27,800
Speaker 1: too high, the chicken will brown too bad, you know.

2367
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:31,040
Speaker 1: And if it's too low the oil it's gonna be

2368
02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 1: full of soggy oil. So you gotta get that right.

2369
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:37,960
Speaker 1: And then the instructions here will just move you right

2370
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 1: through it. My man, you'll be you know what I

2371
02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 1: like about alexand he know, he knows I got the

2372
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 1: vibe go on with him, you know, he know on

2373
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 1: point I'm telling. I'm telling you something in this book.

2374
02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:49,720
Speaker 1: You had a recipe for some I have not eaten

2375
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 1: this as I was a teenager. Okay, pan fried rabbit,

2376
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 1: come on that, just like chicken, come on that. You know,

2377
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:02,720
Speaker 1: you know you gotta have some rabbits. I mean, you know,

2378
02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 1: see my my, my, my father, and the and the

2379
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 1: men of his brothers and my grandfather, they were hunter.

2380
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:17,200
Speaker 1: They had gone. See I saw the rabbits, and then

2381
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 1: you follow that up with the venison, the marinated venison roast. Absolutely,

2382
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 1: I have never ever even thought of eating something a

2383
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:31,080
Speaker 1: roast of venison. Man. Man, it's so good. But listen,

2384
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's uh. It doesn't have a lot

2385
02:08:34,280 --> 02:08:39,720
Speaker 1: of fact. It's very lean and full of proteins. And

2386
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, the only way you mess it

2387
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:45,000
Speaker 1: up is you cook it too long, because it doesn't

2388
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:48,640
Speaker 1: have that that that running through it in that way.

2389
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:51,600
Speaker 1: So you have to really make sure that you and

2390
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:56,520
Speaker 1: it's it's best when it's medium as opposed to well done,

2391
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it shocked me that people go

2392
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 1: out here and all this money on the steak and

2393
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 1: they killed the thing again. And I had to I

2394
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:07,600
Speaker 1: had to learn that too, because I was killing a

2395
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 1: lot of steaks at one time in my life. You

2396
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:12,200
Speaker 1: gotta have a little pick. I mean, I was a

2397
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:15,760
Speaker 1: well done king. You but I was a well done king.

2398
02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:18,200
Speaker 1: I walked into one of his restaurant. I said, I can't,

2399
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:19,800
Speaker 1: I can't let you do my meat like that, sir,

2400
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:22,120
Speaker 1: all right, right? He said, you just why are you

2401
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:24,960
Speaker 1: why are you eating eating it? I said, you wait

2402
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:28,280
Speaker 1: a minute now, now, the one thing you didn't mention,

2403
02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:35,000
Speaker 1: which is a Carolina specialty. Uh. We are known to

2404
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 1: this item, and that's the quail. Oh well, I'm not

2405
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 1: trying to give away everything. I'm just gonna see all.

2406
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that this book is great. I'm

2407
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:48,240
Speaker 1: just put this Roushan and Alexander's just having a conversation.

2408
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:51,000
Speaker 1: How I picked you some I mean some home runs

2409
02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:54,080
Speaker 1: out of this book. And they're still grand slams left

2410
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 1: in this book. Okay. Now, the interesting thing about is

2411
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 1: that when you say quail, you say rabbit, you say venison.

2412
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:03,800
Speaker 1: I have not received a cookbook that had that in it.

2413
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:08,560
Speaker 1: And then you did a specially a contemporary one. Absolutely absolutely.

2414
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 1: And then here's the thing that I loved. The deaf,

2415
02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:16,120
Speaker 1: the bourbon praylin, candid big hand baby. Listen, now I

2416
02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 1: left that here. This is not very famous, am I

2417
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 1: have to tell you? Um uh? When I years ago,

2418
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 1: when I first started my career, before my first restaurant,

2419
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 1: the New York Times did a special on me entertaining

2420
02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 1: at my house in the country. We're talking over twenty

2421
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:37,600
Speaker 1: five years ago, and the centerpiece of this article in

2422
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:42,720
Speaker 1: the New York Times, UH magazine was that bourbon praline Ham.

2423
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:47,120
Speaker 1: Now it's something I came up with and a company

2424
02:10:47,200 --> 02:10:49,920
Speaker 1: with a black guy p and a Rubles salad. I needed.

2425
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:52,400
Speaker 1: I need a couple of stars because I wanted to

2426
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:55,280
Speaker 1: make sure when you get the opportunity to do something,

2427
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:58,840
Speaker 1: as you know for the New York Times, you need

2428
02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:03,080
Speaker 1: to make sure they remember you. So that bourbon prailin

2429
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:06,320
Speaker 1: Ham that was coated, it looked like a candy apple

2430
02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 1: and it just glaze that and that became the signature piece.

2431
02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:19,240
Speaker 1: Brian Gumbo used to uh request that ham every time

2432
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 1: I do the Today Show. He wanted that ham on

2433
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 1: that show. The same when he moved to see CBS,

2434
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:29,360
Speaker 1: the same thing and and and it's a killer ham.

2435
02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 1: My first cookbook, I made the mistake of leaving it out.

2436
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:36,560
Speaker 1: Oh you would have thought it was a revolution. And

2437
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:41,760
Speaker 1: I can't do it on purpose? Right, Well you like,

2438
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:44,200
Speaker 1: like I told you, I read your book. Now, Like

2439
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:46,840
Speaker 1: as you can see, I'm putting out some home rons

2440
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:50,120
Speaker 1: out of here. Now this is the country boy and me.

2441
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 1: This is the country boy and meat. Okay. When I

2442
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 1: saw the braids, ox tails would turn up to the Okrah, yeah,

2443
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:05,040
Speaker 1: everybody do Colled Green do must degree but turnips turnips.

2444
02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 1: What I will tell you as a child, I didn't

2445
02:12:07,480 --> 02:12:11,320
Speaker 1: like colar green, only like turnip green. And I like

2446
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:13,640
Speaker 1: and this is something I don't know if you know

2447
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 1: what polke salad is. Do you know what polk salad is?

2448
02:12:17,880 --> 02:12:21,520
Speaker 1: Folk salad is like like a collard green or turnip

2449
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:25,320
Speaker 1: or or turnip green that grows wild. And it's a

2450
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:28,920
Speaker 1: wild green that we eat in the South. And my

2451
02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:33,280
Speaker 1: mother was mixed uh the turnip greens with the polkes

2452
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:39,320
Speaker 1: uh salad um and and then roast the turnips and

2453
02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:42,320
Speaker 1: lay them on top of the turnip greens my favorites.

2454
02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 1: So I did started eating colar greens really until I

2455
02:12:45,200 --> 02:12:49,800
Speaker 1: was a dolt, and so I wanted to breathe back

2456
02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:55,160
Speaker 1: that experience of the turnip greens and the ox tails

2457
02:12:55,640 --> 02:13:00,440
Speaker 1: and okraft now uh. In all my travels throughout uh

2458
02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:04,000
Speaker 1: well the world included South America. I end up in

2459
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:08,680
Speaker 1: Brazil at a luncheon at dear friends and what does

2460
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:14,839
Speaker 1: this housekeeper cooks make for us? Our tells with okra

2461
02:13:16,160 --> 02:13:20,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, here we are all over the world.

2462
02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:24,240
Speaker 1: You know who we are? We eat yes, sir, yes, sir,

2463
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:27,040
Speaker 1: yes sir. And that's beautiful. Okay, now you know we've

2464
02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:28,960
Speaker 1: talked about all this good food. Did I go to

2465
02:13:29,080 --> 02:13:33,120
Speaker 1: the jukebox music chapter. That's your bread, biscuits and muffin

2466
02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:35,640
Speaker 1: because you have it to yourself. My wife gets on

2467
02:13:35,720 --> 02:13:38,000
Speaker 1: my nerve because you know, I'll tell her I want

2468
02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:39,840
Speaker 1: to die. I still eat corn bread. I still eat

2469
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:41,960
Speaker 1: my I eat my bread. Now I'm a bread. I'm

2470
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna going to the grave eating bread. I'm especially corn.

2471
02:13:45,200 --> 02:13:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to here comes here comes your magic elicture again. Buttermilk.

2472
02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:53,000
Speaker 1: See if this man know what to do with buttermilk? See,

2473
02:13:53,280 --> 02:13:55,840
Speaker 1: and this makes me so mad because buttermilk is hard

2474
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:59,720
Speaker 1: to find in the grocery store. They got it. It

2475
02:13:59,800 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 1: makes me mad because I use buttermilk. See, I'm I'm

2476
02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna tell you how country I am. I give me

2477
02:14:04,280 --> 02:14:07,160
Speaker 1: a glass of buttermilk. Push sugar in that bad boy,

2478
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:09,320
Speaker 1: and I crumbled me up some corn bread in there,

2479
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:17,320
Speaker 1: and I'm set. I'm set. We used to call that

2480
02:14:17,600 --> 02:14:23,680
Speaker 1: pole man alexand I am set. Listen, I know who

2481
02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:28,640
Speaker 1: you are. I had my aunt who just to teach

2482
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:32,760
Speaker 1: me clos from piano, like she would burn the corn

2483
02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:36,240
Speaker 1: bread the day old corn bread flying the toast to

2484
02:14:36,320 --> 02:14:38,840
Speaker 1: put old burnt on it, crumbled up in a bowl,

2485
02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:41,920
Speaker 1: pull out the butter milk and the sugar, just like

2486
02:14:42,080 --> 02:14:46,400
Speaker 1: you said, feeling good. Feel I'm gonna tell you something.

2487
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:48,360
Speaker 1: It's a it's a deal about it. You calling my

2488
02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:52,720
Speaker 1: house right now, Alexander. I will have some buttermilk in there,

2489
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:55,839
Speaker 1: and I'll make you feel at home because I crumble

2490
02:14:55,880 --> 02:14:57,840
Speaker 1: me up some book you want. You want, you want

2491
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 1: some corn bread and butter milk, and you're gonna say ask.

2492
02:15:00,440 --> 02:15:03,600
Speaker 1: And we're sitting there from that fireplace, talk some stories,

2493
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:05,920
Speaker 1: and I'll be with my little brother. That's what I'd

2494
02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:08,000
Speaker 1: be doing with you, but even my little brother. But

2495
02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:10,120
Speaker 1: I want to go back because I jumped so far,

2496
02:15:10,600 --> 02:15:13,000
Speaker 1: because I wanted to go back to the spiritual chapter,

2497
02:15:13,120 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 1: which is Rice, and and then the gospel, which is

2498
02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:19,320
Speaker 1: the field greens and green things. The reason I wanted

2499
02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:22,160
Speaker 1: to go back there because one is called spiritual and

2500
02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:24,480
Speaker 1: one is called gospel. And I wanted to before and

2501
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:26,640
Speaker 1: I asked that question earlier, and I want to make

2502
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:29,480
Speaker 1: sure before we in this interview, what is the difference

2503
02:15:29,480 --> 02:15:35,280
Speaker 1: between spiritual and gospel? Okay, so spiritual Spiritual is your grains.

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02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:40,800
Speaker 1: Spiritual is that foundation food. You know where I'm from,

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02:15:41,240 --> 02:15:44,480
Speaker 1: right is king. If if my mother put down a

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02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:47,800
Speaker 1: meal and decided while she was gonna do potatoes to

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02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:50,280
Speaker 1: do something different, my father would get up from the

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02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:53,000
Speaker 1: table until she had made the right and then you

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02:15:53,120 --> 02:15:55,440
Speaker 1: come back. I don't go. How hungry he was. This

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02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:58,560
Speaker 1: man had to have a right every day, twice a day.

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02:15:59,240 --> 02:16:02,320
Speaker 1: He could be three time today, but he would trade

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02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:06,920
Speaker 1: in the breakfast rights for grit. So these are these

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02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:10,640
Speaker 1: are spiritual grains. You know, this is and and this

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02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:14,840
Speaker 1: is also what we passed on. The grains are uh

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02:16:15,640 --> 02:16:18,200
Speaker 1: the week. These are very important things to who we

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02:16:18,280 --> 02:16:23,240
Speaker 1: are and a diet, so I made them spirituals Okay, yes, yes, yes,

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02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:27,200
Speaker 1: how the gospel is the garden. I spent a lot

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02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:30,760
Speaker 1: of time my grandfather, who was they referred to as

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02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:34,360
Speaker 1: a city farmer, because once we moved the family from

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02:16:34,520 --> 02:16:38,720
Speaker 1: south from Charleston, South Carolina to spotan berg Um, he

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02:16:38,920 --> 02:16:41,520
Speaker 1: then made himself a garden in his backyard that was

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02:16:41,560 --> 02:16:47,280
Speaker 1: about a half an acre. And in that garden is

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02:16:47,400 --> 02:16:52,800
Speaker 1: where so much of my graening, uh, my maturity. Those

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02:16:52,920 --> 02:16:56,360
Speaker 1: talks with Grandpa. I would work in a garden with him.

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02:16:56,760 --> 02:17:00,320
Speaker 1: We would grow stup. This is the gospel you know.

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02:17:01,160 --> 02:17:04,560
Speaker 1: I mean because what you have to understand about black

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02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 1: folks who who come from a legacy and heritage infladed

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02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:15,480
Speaker 1: um uh and slavery. You know, um, they were very

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02:17:15,560 --> 02:17:18,440
Speaker 1: spiritual because coming from Africa, there was a lot of

2530
02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:26,359
Speaker 1: ritual which got translated into uh Christianity, but the practice

2531
02:17:26,560 --> 02:17:29,480
Speaker 1: was still the same. I mean when when you when

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02:17:29,560 --> 02:17:33,760
Speaker 1: you had the plant in the garden, you had a prayer.

2533
02:17:34,280 --> 02:17:37,800
Speaker 1: You know, it was sacred before you killed that animal,

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02:17:37,879 --> 02:17:40,600
Speaker 1: for for to feed your family, and that was the

2535
02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:43,600
Speaker 1: only reason to kill an animal. There was a prayer.

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02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:48,160
Speaker 1: So this is the gospel of who we are awesome

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02:17:48,240 --> 02:17:53,760
Speaker 1: as beautiful stately you know on the spiritual See I

2538
02:17:53,879 --> 02:17:59,320
Speaker 1: fell in love with Carolina Hopping Jims. Yeah, and so

2539
02:17:59,520 --> 02:18:01,280
Speaker 1: you know because you know how yahs, you can't buy

2540
02:18:01,320 --> 02:18:03,600
Speaker 1: in the restaurant. You can't get this a restaurant. When

2541
02:18:03,640 --> 02:18:05,800
Speaker 1: I was living in Chicago during the Steve Harvard talk show,

2542
02:18:06,400 --> 02:18:08,760
Speaker 1: there was a restaurant right across the street from Oprah

2543
02:18:08,800 --> 02:18:11,640
Speaker 1: went for his old studio. On his on his menu

2544
02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:13,400
Speaker 1: it had Hopping John's and I should get it all

2545
02:18:13,400 --> 02:18:16,040
Speaker 1: the time. So when I saw this in your book,

2546
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:18,520
Speaker 1: I said, rice and peas, I gotta pull this out.

2547
02:18:19,080 --> 02:18:20,720
Speaker 1: And then when I went to the Gospel, which is

2548
02:18:20,800 --> 02:18:23,600
Speaker 1: the Field Greens and Green Things chapter, you don't know

2549
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:27,280
Speaker 1: how much I love sweet pickles. Sweet pickles is the

2550
02:18:27,360 --> 02:18:31,680
Speaker 1: pickle for me. And you gotta sweet pickle potatoes out. Yeah?

2551
02:18:32,040 --> 02:18:35,240
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I gotta be sweets. You know these Northerners

2552
02:18:35,320 --> 02:18:37,680
Speaker 1: that'd be putting the old pickles in the potato pallet.

2553
02:18:38,080 --> 02:18:42,520
Speaker 1: I can't stand it, you know, I gotta have sweet.

2554
02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my man, Alexander Small. Hist books, Mills, music,

2555
02:18:48,480 --> 02:18:51,600
Speaker 1: and muse recipes from my African American, from my African

2556
02:18:51,640 --> 02:18:53,600
Speaker 1: American kitchen. See, I knew I was in love with

2557
02:18:53,640 --> 02:18:55,880
Speaker 1: Alexander Small because he said one key thing in this

2558
02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:58,720
Speaker 1: conversation when you were talking about his dad, he said

2559
02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:01,160
Speaker 1: he'd have grit You have rice three times a day,

2560
02:19:01,360 --> 02:19:05,720
Speaker 1: but he would trade out the rice for grits. I said,

2561
02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:09,440
Speaker 1: my man right there, because Bro, I'm gonna just tell

2562
02:19:09,440 --> 02:19:13,480
Speaker 1: you something. It's too Smalls. I am a great man. Yes,

2563
02:19:15,480 --> 02:19:18,400
Speaker 1: I love missing because I'm telling something. Everybody needs to

2564
02:19:18,440 --> 02:19:24,400
Speaker 1: understand this. Everybody can't make grits. No, this is people there.

2565
02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:27,560
Speaker 1: So it starts with a good product. Everybody know what

2566
02:19:27,720 --> 02:19:30,560
Speaker 1: good grit. So come on, they're so busy buying, you know,

2567
02:19:30,879 --> 02:19:35,199
Speaker 1: the quick service grit and cooking in the microwave gret

2568
02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:39,560
Speaker 1: You go to these restaurants, they're not serving you grits.

2569
02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:43,000
Speaker 1: That's serving you invitation dum. There you go, there you go,

2570
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:44,920
Speaker 1: there you go. Now I'm a closing out with the

2571
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:48,360
Speaker 1: Serenades chapter. That's the cake, pies and pudding. Because you're

2572
02:19:48,360 --> 02:19:51,240
Speaker 1: not a dessert guy. I'm a dessert guy. So everybody, Now,

2573
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:53,560
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta let everybody cause IM tell you

2574
02:19:53,640 --> 02:19:55,920
Speaker 1: I am Alexander, and we're gonna meet together. We're gonna

2575
02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:57,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna definitely connect over it because I can tell

2576
02:19:57,760 --> 02:20:01,240
Speaker 1: our relationship about energies right Always when we sit down

2577
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:04,240
Speaker 1: and eat any restaurant, I'm always aller my dessert. First.

2578
02:20:04,240 --> 02:20:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just let you know so you won't be shocked.

2579
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:11,200
Speaker 1: Oh I know, people like that'slutely absolutely absolutely absolutely, So

2580
02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:13,119
Speaker 1: you're gonna go, oh yeah, ri Shan told me you're

2581
02:20:13,120 --> 02:20:15,440
Speaker 1: gonna do this, go you know you so you wanna

2582
02:20:15,440 --> 02:20:19,200
Speaker 1: be shocked? You and we're looking at me like I'm crazy. First,

2583
02:20:19,320 --> 02:20:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't know people like you, dude, and then people

2584
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:24,720
Speaker 1: turn around me. He can't get ain't no way either

2585
02:20:24,959 --> 02:20:27,879
Speaker 1: he makes me sick or whatever. Whatever, I'm gonna eat

2586
02:20:27,879 --> 02:20:30,000
Speaker 1: my dessert. And then that because people all get stune,

2587
02:20:30,040 --> 02:20:32,240
Speaker 1: they go, uh, do you want the meal? You want

2588
02:20:32,280 --> 02:20:34,320
Speaker 1: the menu? Yes, sir, I want that too. I just

2589
02:20:34,400 --> 02:20:37,560
Speaker 1: want my dessert first. So there were two desserts that

2590
02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:40,360
Speaker 1: popped out. One was a classic that I looked at

2591
02:20:40,360 --> 02:20:42,800
Speaker 1: it because I I, you're adding something a little bit

2592
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:45,040
Speaker 1: different than you're sweepertato pie. I think I'm gonna add

2593
02:20:45,080 --> 02:20:48,480
Speaker 1: in mind because mine is good, Alexander, but I can

2594
02:20:48,600 --> 02:20:52,280
Speaker 1: tell it's not like my mom's. And I looked at

2595
02:20:52,320 --> 02:20:57,000
Speaker 1: your recipe. I go, he's adding, So I'm gonna try

2596
02:20:57,120 --> 02:20:59,760
Speaker 1: your recipe and I think it's gonna be the magic

2597
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:02,119
Speaker 1: one because everything else in that book and just hearing

2598
02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:04,680
Speaker 1: your personality, I think you're gonna bring me on home

2599
02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:08,840
Speaker 1: with the right sweeper tat to Pope. And then then

2600
02:21:08,959 --> 02:21:13,400
Speaker 1: he had the ice box lemon pie Broe. If you

2601
02:21:14,040 --> 02:21:16,240
Speaker 1: know it's one of it's one of the things you know,

2602
02:21:16,360 --> 02:21:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, when you're standing next to people and you

2603
02:21:17,720 --> 02:21:19,520
Speaker 1: eat some good you just push them on the shoulder,

2604
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:23,800
Speaker 1: get out of here. You you're so stupid. You make

2605
02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:28,199
Speaker 1: me sick. You know, obviously every negative thing to you, Alexander,

2606
02:21:28,560 --> 02:21:31,400
Speaker 1: it is all love. You make me sick. You know

2607
02:21:31,400 --> 02:21:34,520
Speaker 1: a food right, You're stupid. This is ridiculous what that

2608
02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:38,280
Speaker 1: ice box will do for you. When I was a kid,

2609
02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:40,240
Speaker 1: it's one of the first times I learned to make

2610
02:21:40,760 --> 02:21:43,720
Speaker 1: and and my and I would make two, one for

2611
02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:47,080
Speaker 1: the family and one for me, and that was my thing.

2612
02:21:47,200 --> 02:21:50,160
Speaker 1: I would make those like and and. Interestingly, my mother

2613
02:21:50,280 --> 02:21:52,560
Speaker 1: let me eat as much as I wanted to because

2614
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:55,879
Speaker 1: she knew that that would be that lemon redne Yes, sir, yes,

2615
02:21:56,360 --> 02:22:00,440
Speaker 1: you eat too much of that. It's coming document you way,

2616
02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:03,960
Speaker 1: Yes sir, yes, sir so so so stop at two

2617
02:22:04,040 --> 02:22:07,000
Speaker 1: pieces at the time. Okay, this is this is an

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Speaker 1: amazing book, my friend. I hope you enjoyed the interview

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Speaker 1: Meals and Music and music Recipes from My African American

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Speaker 1: Kitchen by the brilliant Alexandra Small and the equally brilliant

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