1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: It's way up at Angela Yee. I'm Angela Ye. And 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: that's Jasmine from the Jasmine brand dot com. Yes, and 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: we have a guess that we have been trying to 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: get her up here, but she is so booked and busy. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: Nina Parker had Hey, I'm so excited to be here. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Yes, And we're excited to have you, Nina, because you 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: are a brand in itself, and we want to talk 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: about how you got to this point in your career 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: and in your life because it's always a balance, and 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: that is and I feel like you've been able to 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: authentically be. 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: Yourself, you know, Thank God? All right. When I first 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: knew who you were, it was from TMZ. 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Yes, all right, So talk about like how you got 15 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: to TMZ and what you did before that, what. 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: I did before that. I was working at a call center. 17 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: That's good, Okay, real, So I got my degree in journalism. 18 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: That's the as the quote goes, as everybody journalist, I'm 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: a real. As the infamous clip is circulating and recirculating, 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: and I swear this clip with me and Johnson is 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: gonna resurface. I'm gonna be at the Pearly Gates and 22 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: God is gonna play this clip for me. Resurface is 23 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: like every six months. But yes, so I did. I 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: went to school, I got my degree in journalism, and 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: then I moved to New York for like a year, 26 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: failed miserably because I was young and entitled and thought 27 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: I would just walk into the studios at MTV and 28 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: get an on air job. And they were like, no, girl, 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: you did not have experience. People don't understand how difficult 30 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: it is to get a job on TV. Oh yes, hid, 31 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: And so I came back to California and my tailing 32 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: between my legs. I'm from the Bay. So I went 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: back to the Bay Area where my family was. Got 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: out of eat and so I went back and was 35 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: home for like four years, and I was like, I 36 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: just need a job, you know, making money. So I 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: worked at a telephone call center and like it was 38 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 3: supposed to be for one year, one year turned into 39 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: four and I was completely miserable and crying every day. 40 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: Calling is sick. And you know, when you're not living 41 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: in your purpose, you just depressed all the time. And 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: I was filing FMLA and you know, I was doing 43 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff, headaches every day. 44 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: I always say when you started feeling like every morning, 45 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: should I call it? 46 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, this is not the place to be. 47 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: This is your it's your sign that you might not 48 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: be where you're supposed to be. And I think like 49 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: the universe really makes you uncomfortable when you're in spaces 50 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: like that, you're that you know you're not supposed to 51 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: be in, right, when you laying in bed at like 52 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 3: three in the morning, you know like, this is not 53 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: the life I want to be living. 54 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: When every time you get go outside, you like, I 55 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: hate my life, right, And. 56 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: So exactly, I was like, oh, you know, crying at 57 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: the computer. My mom was like, you do not have 58 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: to live like this, and so I was like, she's right, 59 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: and so we literally I took two weeks vacation, packed 60 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: my car, but moved to LA And this is so 61 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: crazy how the universe works. Is I really believe if 62 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: you take one step, God takes two. So I get 63 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: to LA in April of two thousand and seven, I'm 64 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: on TMZ by June. 65 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: Wow, Really that's quick. And how did you get on TMZ? 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: I literally went to a temp agency and was like, 67 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: if I can just get on lots because in my 68 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: mind I was like I just need to be in 69 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: the space. Agency was doing secretarial work because and by 70 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: this time I'm humble, so I'm like, I'll take off 71 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: the trash. I don't care to need to be in 72 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: the building. And I was temping on a lot at 73 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: CBS and this girl was like, hey, you know, there's 74 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: this website called TMZ and they're hiring. And I was 75 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: like okay, and I literally at the time, they had 76 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: like a contact us email, and I just emailed them 77 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: my resume and they called me in for an interview 78 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: and they were like, you are not qualified for much, 79 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: but you want to be a production assistant, like a 80 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: runner will hire you to get lunches. And I was like, 81 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: I'll take it. 82 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: How many people there went to school and got their 83 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: degree in journalism too? 84 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: A lot? Okay, yeah, a lot, not all. It was 85 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: about like sixty. 86 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: Because I'm just wondering because there's so many things that 87 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: we could talk about right here, right, But there's a 88 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: lot of people online that have blags, they have podcasts, yeah, 89 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: and considered themselves to be journalists but don't necessarily have 90 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: a journalism degree. 91 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: You know. I think we're in a new age, and 92 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: I think TMD was part of creating that it's a 93 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: new age of journalism because you know, with them, it 94 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: was you know, ex festibility. It was getting the camera, 95 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: being outside of the restaurants, talking to people, and you 96 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: didn't need a statement from their publicist anymore. You could 97 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: just talk to them and then run, you know. And 98 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: TMZ was around before Instagram, so now you can go 99 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: and put your own stuff on Instagram post a story. 100 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: But this was like in the infancy stages when there 101 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: was barely even Facebook. So this was like the only 102 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: access people had to celebse outside of watching those like 103 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: traditional entertainment shows, was was TMZ and the website. And 104 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: I think that's why it went so viral and created 105 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: this new wave of journalism. And I'm proud to say 106 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: I was a part of that. Like I was there 107 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: when it was still a website. We were in an 108 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: attic on top of Extra TV show and yeah. 109 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: So he was there, you were writing with him closely, yeah. 110 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: Working, I mean he was. I eventually became the managing 111 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: editor on weekends, so it was literally just met him 112 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: and a PA on Saturdays and Sundays. 113 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: She went from being told that she did not qualify 114 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: for much right to becoming the managing editor. 115 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: To managing editor on weekends, and then I was also 116 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: on the show. So the show when I started, I 117 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: started in June of t two thousand and seven. I 118 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: was on camera by September of two thousand and seven. 119 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: Now I went from like working in a call center 120 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: by that January. By that fall, I was on TV 121 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 3: and everybody from the costenter was like, what is happening? 122 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: How were you on Fox right now? You know, it 123 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: was crazy. 124 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: What was the best part of your experience working at TMZ. 125 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: Well, I was a part of, like you know, I 126 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: was a part of breaking Michael Jackson's death. And I 127 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: wouldn't say that's the best part, but I mean I 128 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: learned so much from I don't And I also like 129 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: connecting with other black journalists and blogs. I think that's 130 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: how me and you met. You know, I was reaching 131 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: out to be Scott Karen Siville, I said, Carlton Jordan. 132 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: These were all the people who were working in LA 133 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: and I would see them start and I would be like, 134 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: we have all of these stories. Why are we not 135 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: connecting with the black community and these black journalists, Why 136 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: are we not doing that? And actually, when the Breakfast 137 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: Club started, Charlotte Magne was emailing me like, hey, we're 138 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: starting this new show. Can I send you clips? And 139 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: I'll be like, yeah, we'll put it on the site. 140 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: So I was trying to talk to basically everybody black 141 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: who was in entertainment and connect them because I knew 142 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: I was a part of this mainstream organization and they 143 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: weren't given any love to Black people or black institutions 144 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 3: and blogs that were breaking stories. And then they would 145 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: like post a story and not always credit and I 146 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: was like, this. 147 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: Is not right. 148 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: What's the balance between wanting to be first to break 149 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: a story but also wanting to make sure that it's 150 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: correct right? Because I felt like a lot of times 151 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: TMD gets it right. There's a couple of times, of course, 152 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: that that doesn't happen. I think that's hard to avoid. 153 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: But for you, what's the balance between because everybody's like 154 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: trying to be first all the time and post things, 155 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: So how does that work? 156 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: Well? I think you know, being first is important and 157 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: if you can be, you should be, but also you 158 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: have to be right because if you're wrong and first, 159 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: nobody cares right, and also you ruin your credibility, right, 160 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: so there's a really fine line between like, yes, we 161 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: want to be first, but also we want to be right. 162 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: And the thing about a news cycle is it cycles 163 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: every twenty four hours and everybody forgets. People don't remember 164 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: the story that broke on Monday, right, so today is like, 165 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: you know, we just don't know. Like you don't want 166 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: to be wrong and ruin your credibility, so every time 167 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: people turn to you, they're like, they're always wrong. So 168 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: it's important. But when I was there, it was I've 169 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: worked at mainstream news organizations. I've worked for NBC, I've 170 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: worked for CBS News, so I knew, like, these people 171 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: really vet. There's lawyers there, they vet. You have to 172 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: have three sources to even get a story published. Oh 173 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: you have three three verified sources. You couldn't just tell 174 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: me a story as Angela and I just publish it. 175 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: I would have to check your story, check your background. 176 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: And so it's like it was like any other place, 177 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: and in fact, they probably pushed me the most out 178 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: of any place that I've been at, and I've been 179 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: at legitimate like news organizations to vet my sources, and 180 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: they would just be like, is the person answering no, 181 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: go to their door. It was old school, like drive 182 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: to their house, drive to their agency, go knock on 183 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: the door and talk to them face to face. 184 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: Too much. 185 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: But you know what else, it's hard too. Sometimes people 186 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: feed stories that aren't true. 187 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why you have to vet. 188 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: Because but if I tell you something that's about me 189 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: that you would be like, Okay, I'm getting it from 190 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: the source herself, but it's not true. That Sometimes it 191 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: makes it hard to because we know people that try 192 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: to plant a story about somebody that they're involved in. 193 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: They have to be careful of people's motives, right, So, 194 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: and there are people you don't care about who you 195 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: know might have a vendetta against somebody, right you know, 196 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: And so you have to be like, this is I've 197 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: learned a long time ago how to separate my friendships 198 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: from work. I don't play about work. I don't play 199 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: about my reputation. I don't play about my money. You 200 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: could be my friend all day and I'm gonna still 201 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: tell you no. And so I you know, I'm not 202 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: willing to risk my reputation on my career for a 203 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: story that would be gone in twenty four hours. And 204 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: I'm not going to let you do that to me either. 205 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 2: Now, where did you leave and go to? From TMZ? 206 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: So after TMZ I went to CBS. I went to Insider. 207 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: On CBS, I was co hosting with Kevin Fraser and 208 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: Brooke Anderson. And that's when I really started like traditional media. 209 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: I would say where I'm doing, like Red Carpets, reading 210 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: from prompters, because TMZ didn't have prompters. It wasn't like stoic, 211 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't old school. It was very like you know, 212 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: it was New Aid. So it's very difficult going from 213 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: like this progressive place to this more traditional place. It 214 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: was really hard for me to adjust because I was 215 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: used to like, we could post whatever we wanted on 216 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: Social Harve, we didn't care. We could be we could 217 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: go row, we could say whatever. CBS was like, you 218 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: cannot post this, you cannot do this, you cannot be 219 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 3: seen here. And that was really hard for me coming 220 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: from a place where I had a lot of freedom. 221 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: Right, So then how long did that last for you? 222 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: It lasted for four years? 223 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you know I had a contract. Did you 224 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: like doing Red Carpet? I've never really enjoyed you know, 225 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: I liked it. 226 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: For a while listen. I went on to do you 227 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: know it led me to do all the Red carpets 228 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: for Eve for five years. You know, I was doing 229 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: live from the Red Carpet. I was at the Oscars, 230 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: the Grammys, any award show. I was there on a 231 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: huge platform, and I appreciate the opportunity. Is it like 232 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 3: what I enjoy doing the most? 233 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: No, it's so intense and intense. 234 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: And then it's also you can't ask like two anything 235 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: too deep or too. 236 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: And I like that you only have like a few 237 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: seconds or something. I like what we're doing now versus 238 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: I like having a comp station where the environment isn't chaotic, 239 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: where your publicist is pulling you out after two minutes 240 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 3: because there's not really much we can discuss on the 241 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: red carpet in sixty seconds. And it's also I don't 242 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: think people understand like it looks glamorous on Instagram, it's not. 243 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: It's a lie. 244 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: It's a lie intensity And sometimes people come in you 245 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: don't really know them either, And when that happen, and 246 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: then those moments go viral when somebody says something real 247 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: quick and awkward. 248 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: It's not an easy thing. 249 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: And I have to do I do research like I 250 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: have binders. I don't know there are people who don't research. 251 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: I am not that Like. I research events, Like I'm 252 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: in class, so I research. If I'm doing the Oscars, 253 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: I research every film, every actor on the film. I 254 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: learned how to pronounce their names. I'm literally on YouTube 255 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: googling old interviews so I can know how to pronounce 256 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: their name. 257 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: I am even pronouncing somebody's name. It's a big dis 258 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: is your name. 259 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 3: And you're in an Oscar nominated movie and they say 260 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 3: it wrong, They'll walk away from. 261 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: You, right, you know, right, somebody call men. 262 00:10:58,960 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: It's a problem. 263 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, how do you think black media was treated 264 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: on the red carpet? Because that's always not yes, okay. 265 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: And this is why I wanted to connect when I 266 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: was at TMC with a lot of people, is because 267 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 3: I was like, I saw the disconnect between what we 268 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: would call mainstream media and black media. But what I 269 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: saw was like black media was breaking a lot of 270 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: these stories and it is mainstream, and there was this 271 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: confusion that because it's not because it's a black star, 272 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: they don't deserve aless treatment. And there were only certain 273 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: black stars that were being recognized that were worthy of 274 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: being interviewed. You had to be the super upper echelon 275 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: Denzel Washington's to even get acknowledged on the red carpet. 276 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: There would be people who we've known for years. If 277 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: you think about when Taraji did Empire, white organizations started saying, oh, 278 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: this new star. But to us, we had known Tara 279 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: for years. We had been replaying baby Boy on BT 280 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: for years, So Taraji was a big star to us. 281 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: And I was like, this is crazy that y'all don't 282 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: know who Taraji is until she did this show on 283 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: you know, Fox, and it was just kind of crazy 284 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: to me. And so I internally had to do a 285 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: lot of fixing and talking and practically begging them to 286 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: like put this person on interview, this person grabbing people 287 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: from the red carpet, And sometimes I would just do 288 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: it and get in trouble, like, no, we're gonna talk 289 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: to them. 290 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: And then another thing that I saw you take control 291 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: over is you have a clothing line that's in Macy's right, 292 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: so talk about that because you are the first black 293 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: women to have a plus size clothing line in Macy's. 294 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: Yes, an exclusive clothing line. They've had other black designers, 295 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: but it was never an exclusive line. They would carry 296 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: the collection and it would go away. This was a 297 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: line that was created exclusively for Macy's. And really it 298 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: came out of discomfort and anger because I was I 299 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: had a show on Eve for five years and I 300 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: needed clothes every day and we were on air and 301 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: I'm a thick girl, and I was like, if we 302 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: got an outfit for Monday, I was happy, and then 303 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I need an outfit for every other 304 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: day of the week. And there were just no designers 305 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: that were to me making dressing me the way I 306 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: felt like I should be dressing in my head, you know, 307 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: in your mind, you see your style one way. But 308 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: what was available Bull was like some different flowy dresses. 309 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: Me and my aunts, you know from the church, was 310 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: wearing the same clothes, and I was like, why can't 311 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: have a cute little fish net jumper? Why? Why? 312 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: Why is very cute in the collection with you? 313 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: Thank you? And you know you could wear heels, you know, 314 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: like that jeans, I mean shoes, But I just wanted 315 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: more versatility. 316 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: And I said, were you designing your own clothes to. 317 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: What I was doing was And thank god I had 318 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: a stylist who and obviously regular women aren't able to 319 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: have that. But I had a stylist who would get 320 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: an outfit and we would literally cut sleeves off of 321 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: one thing, sew stuff on. So we were literally creating 322 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 3: out that she found somebody who could sew in neighborhoods 323 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: and she, the lady, was sewing clothes for me and 324 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: all of that stuff. Angela here throwing outside. 325 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: To be smooth. 326 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: Okay, the baby. 327 00:13:53,320 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: Oh sorry, okay, I forgot what I'll say it, but yeah, 328 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 4: So we would put outfits together and I was like 329 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: making my own outfits and sewing and doing things, and 330 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 4: I was like, this is exhausting. 331 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: And I had went through a really bad breakup at 332 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: the end of twenty nineteen and I kind of made 333 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: this list of what I wanted my life to be 334 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: like and where I wanted my goals to go through, 335 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: and like what kind of woman did I want to be? 336 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: And like did I what like instead of complaining about things, 337 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: what could I do to actually put things into action? 338 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: And the top thing on my list was creating a 339 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: clothing line because I was tired of just always commenting 340 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: on how there was nothing and just being discouraged and 341 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: I just started to say, how can I put things 342 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: into action in my life where I'm being actionable towards 343 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: what I want instead of complaining about it. And that 344 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: was the first thing that I did. Two weeks later, 345 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: I got a call from my partner now partner, Hilda 346 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: ad Reunited Clothing, who was like, Hey, want to I 347 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: want to create a line with you and I want 348 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: to pitch it to a major retailer. 349 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: Had you put that out there already or did this person? 350 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: Oh? I got to put it out there. It was 351 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: really crazy. I was like, maybe manifestation did this work? 352 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 353 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: It did, And so all the twenty twenty we created 354 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: so when it was the pandemic literally jas when you 355 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: know this, we were we were creating on zooms and 356 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: having meetings and creating outfit and she text me and 357 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: she was like, I'm not supposed to be telling you this. 358 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: Your age is supposed to call you. But Macy's wants 359 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: the line and I was like that no, Like, you know, 360 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: I thought we might be in a little pop up. 361 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: I didn't think we'd get like that's amazing, maybe the 362 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: most the most iconic retailer in the world. And they 363 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: were like, no, they really wanted to really devote to 364 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: their plus community and they believe like you can help 365 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: drive that. And so now it is, you know, the 366 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: number one plus line aut Macy's, and it's doing really well. 367 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah that is amazing. 368 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. It's that. 369 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: I love the way that your whole trajectory has been 370 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: because I feel like everything that you've said, Okay, I 371 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: have to make this happen, You've made it happen. 372 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 373 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: And I and I'm like a huge opponent of like 374 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: being stagnant. I hate when I feel like I'm stagnant. 375 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: You know, I will create, yes, some type of confus 376 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: in my life, just so I don't have to be sagnant. 377 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: But the other thing that you did, and I admire 378 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: this a lot because I love real estate. 379 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: Yes, all right is by my house. So let's talk 380 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: about that show. 381 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: That was cool to do. And I just you know, 382 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: as I grow and I think, you know, you've been 383 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: doing your show for many years, even when you live 384 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: it in your dreams, sometimes you can get stagnant or bored. 385 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: This is a new show, so it's not now, not 386 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: this show, but before, Yes, you know what I mean, 387 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: Like you that's why you created this because you were like, Okay, 388 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: I need something new and different and I want to 389 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: contribute something different. And that's how I feel too. I 390 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: was doing kind of the I started to get a 391 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: little not bored in hosting, but I started to be like, Okay, 392 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the same thing every day, like I want. 393 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: I don't always want to talk about celebrities. I'm also 394 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: growing and getting older and the things that interested me 395 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: when I started my career at twenty seven in this 396 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: industry are different now than I'm twenty eight. 397 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 398 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: So so I was like, oh, man, like I don't 399 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: necessarily want to talk about the Kardashians anymore. And then 400 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: this opportunity with Netflix came to do this this show 401 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: about basically it's like Shark Tank with houses. Yes, I 402 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 3: love it, and it's so fun because you meet all 403 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: these people from all over and you're working with real people, 404 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 3: which is dope because there's no egos involved. You know, 405 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: sometimes when you're dealing with celebrities, they come in with 406 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: their entourage and their egos, and these people are just honest, 407 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: hard working people who have a house they want to 408 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: sell and they just want to get the best price 409 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: for it, and then you have cash. All cash offers 410 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 3: tycoons who bid on the houses, and then there's like 411 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: this bidding war and it gets juicy, and egos do 412 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: get involved a little bit, because you know, these homeowners 413 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: work hard, they flexing on their property and then it's 414 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: a fight and we see if they bid the property 415 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: or if they sell it or if they keep it, 416 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: what happens, what it's worth, and you know, these tycoons 417 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: are buying the property site unseen, so it's really dope. 418 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: And that's tough because when you own a property, it 419 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: can have so much sentimental value to you, but that 420 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it has the financial that's what they say 421 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: on the show. And yeah, and the owner usually has 422 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: emotional connections so they value it more than and. 423 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: We have people on the show. One woman got over 424 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: cancer in her house, so it was very important to 425 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: her to get the right price, and she's like, this 426 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: house healed me, but you know, not to be heartless. Yeah, 427 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: okay girl, But yeah, they're like so right. And the 428 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: show did pretty well and it was trending in the 429 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: top ten. It did really well, and it also allowed 430 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: people to see me in a different light because people 431 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: have been used to seeing me do these interviews with 432 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: celebs or arguing folks on Love and Hip Hop, So 433 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: it was dope to like, just you know, it's how did. 434 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: You enjoy hosting those Love and Hip Hop reunions? 435 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: Okay, it was a wonderful opportunity, now. 436 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: Don't do don't do that. 437 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 3: I have to say it wasn't. 438 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't. 439 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: It was a blessing to me at the time. When 440 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: when you know when you're hosting, you don't get a show. 441 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: People think, like, if you leave a show, you get 442 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: another one. That's not normal, like what you just did transitioning. 443 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: That doesn't happen, Like you have to be a very 444 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: special talent to get show was back to back. People 445 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: don't understand how difficult that is. Right, So for me 446 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: to when I stopped doing the Insider on CBS, I 447 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: didn't have another gig, and I it came at a 448 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 3: time where I really needed it. And so for one, yes, 449 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: I did do it for the bag it was and 450 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie about that. I didn't. I don't 451 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: have family that can support me. I'm on my own. 452 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: Jasmine has loaned me money in the past because I 453 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: didn't have enough to pay my rent after I was done. 454 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 3: I wasn't good with money at the time. I was horrible, 455 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: and so when I was coming out of that in 456 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, I needed some money. 457 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: I needed to say I'm glad you said that, because 458 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: people think you're on TV and automatically that means you're 459 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: rid right living it at and you're good, and they 460 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: that's not true. And it's also important to think about 461 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: what's next, and sometimes we don't think about that where And. 462 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: You know what I learned from that experience because when 463 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: I was at CBS, I blew all my money. I 464 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: remember going to Rodale when I got my first check 465 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: and I bought a Gucci bag, a Louis bag. I 466 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: was acting like Rick crossing brunch, buying everything extra this, 467 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: you know, and it wasn't smart. And so when my 468 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 3: job went away, which TV comes and goes, my job 469 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: went away, and I had no money because I was 470 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 3: living paycheck to payche good checks, but I hadn't saved. 471 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: And what I learned from that experience was the next 472 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: thing I get, I'm gonna save, and also I'm gonna 473 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: start getting mutiple streams of income. Yes, so did I 474 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 3: hit rock bottom? And then I learned from it and 475 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: now that's why I'm doing you know, I got a 476 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: show on Netflix, and then I also have my clothing line, 477 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: and then I'm also I just started my own production company. 478 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: Like there, I'm like, you're not gonna catch me like 479 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: that again. 480 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes it's also hard when an opportunity, like 481 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: you said, goes away and then people are like speculating 482 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: on it and you have to kind of and then 483 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: there's an announcement that's Yes, that's not easy that. 484 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: It's hard on your ego too, because sometimes with these 485 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 3: networks it's all about numbers. And also when you get 486 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: people that come in these the network execs shifts so much. 487 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: So if someone if the old networks that created your show, 488 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: the new one wants to come in and they want 489 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: everything under that their name. 490 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: Right, they want to have their own legacy today people 491 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: and they get rid of all the old So sometimes 492 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with you. 493 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: It's not personal, but it's hard not to take it personal, 494 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: especially when you're hosting like this show is way up 495 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: with Angela. Ye, you take it personal sometimes of people 496 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: because you're not acting, you're not pretending on the show 497 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: to be someone else'su and as a host, you're being yourself. 498 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: So when people don't like you, you like dang, they just 499 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: don't like me. It's not like they didn't like the 500 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: character I was portraying. And that can be difficult, but 501 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: then you learn to get a thick skin and just 502 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: like who rocks on me rocks with me, And that's 503 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 3: the same with networks. Not every network is gonna rock 504 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: with you, and in the meantime, you've got to figure 505 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: other things out. And for me, my career is really 506 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: shifted where I understand now why Jessica Simpson never went 507 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: back to music because these clothing lines is lucrative. I 508 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: understand why Rihanna's like, I'll need to make another album 509 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: up again, because it's like, you know, I didn't know 510 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: it was coming like this. But it also allows me 511 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: to be very discerning with the jobs that I take. 512 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 3: I had to take love and hip hop. When you 513 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: asked me if I liked it, I didn't enjoy it 514 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 3: because it was chaos and it wasn't where my spirit was. 515 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: I don't communicate with people like that. I don't sit 516 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: in chaos. I'm not part of love triangles. I'm not 517 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: trying to fight people. But at the same time, I 518 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: do believe that everybody deserves to get their story told. 519 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: And I think that there are people who are like, well, 520 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: why are you doing this, why are you interviewing this person? 521 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: But I got cousins like this, and they deserve to 522 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 3: have this story told, just like everybody else. And sometimes 523 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 3: when you feel back the layers, you see we're all 524 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: human and a lot of people are just operating and hurt. 525 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: So I do think that's important to tell. But there's 526 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: a limit on that, and that's why I did ultimately 527 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: walk away from it. They did ask me to come back, 528 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: and I declined, and because things changed for me and 529 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: shifted for me, and also, like I said, I could 530 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: be discerning on what I decided to choose. 531 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: That's a great position. 532 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: It's a wonderful position. Yeah, And I say no to 533 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: probably more things than I say yes to now because 534 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm in a position where I can do that. But 535 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 3: also I built my life to where I can do that, 536 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: and I have nothing for a while and still be okay, 537 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: I'm in the most peaceful place I've ever been in. 538 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: Oh. 539 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: That's and as far as the hosting opportunities that you've had, 540 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: which one have you enjoyed the most? 541 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 3: I probably would say, you know, yes, yeah, I mean 542 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: it was the nightly Pop was so much fun to do. 543 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: It was a late night show time. 544 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: We had fun. 545 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: You know, we could it was giving us alcohol to 546 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 3: sip on, and we could cuss and make dirty jokes exactly. 547 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was. It was a good time. It 548 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: was fun, and you just learned from each experience and like, okay, 549 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: this is you know, it's like a relationship every time 550 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: you're in when you learn what you do and don't like, 551 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 3: and the more you know what you don't want, the 552 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: more you know what you do want, and you start 553 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: to gravitate towards that. And so now I know the 554 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: kind of environments that I like to be around. And 555 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: you learn from the good and the bad, and you're like, 556 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: in the future, this is what I won't do, this 557 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: is what I won't tolerate in my contract. I learn 558 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: to do this, and you just you kind of learn 559 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: and you grow. 560 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: There are so many people that want to be in 561 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: this space of hosting, of reporting journalism. What advice would 562 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: you give because people ask me all the time, like 563 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get my foot in the door, 564 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: and I saw what you did. You got your put 565 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: in the door by saying I take whatever job, just 566 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: let me in the building. But things have changed a lot. 567 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: So what would you say to people on the come 568 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: up now? 569 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: Well, one, I would say, it makes sure you're doing 570 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 3: it because you really truly believe in the craft of it. 571 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: Like I really enjoy journalism. I really I went to 572 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: school and I studied it. I watched when I wasn't working, 573 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: I would watch Oprah interview people, and I really dived 574 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: in and did my homework because I loved the craft 575 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 3: of it. I didn't do it to get a lot 576 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 3: of Instagram followers or be invited to a red carpet. 577 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: That stuff comes later as a perk. But I didn't 578 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: do it because of the perks. And if you're doing 579 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: it for the money or for the perks, you in 580 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: the wrong business because unless you're in that top percentile, 581 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: you're not getting the coin that you're not going to 582 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: be in a Bentley next week because you landed a 583 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: role and TV ain't paying like it used to, you 584 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's like, if you love 585 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: the craft of it, do but don't do it because 586 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: you think it's the glitz and glamour, because nothing is 587 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: what it seems like. I'm acting now and I'm on 588 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: set and it's not glamorous, Like it's a lot of 589 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: hurry up and wait. It's a lot of doing things repeatedly. 590 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: Like it's fun ultimately, but everything is work if it's 591 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 3: a job, but there's work involved. 592 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: So acting is the next day. 593 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, chat, Yeah, I booked an Audible series and I'm 594 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 3: not saying the name or who what yet, But then 595 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: I also am booking like guest roles and I'm fully 596 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: getting into acting right now. And that's really what's a 597 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: good Yeah. Yeah, I just really filmed something and can't 598 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: wait announce it. Yes, it's really dope because I I've 599 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: always wanted to act and i've been really and when 600 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 3: we talk about getting stagnant, I was scared to do 601 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: it because I was like, I'm really good at hosting. 602 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: I'm scared to do this. But now what I've learned 603 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: is kind of run towards the things I'm scared for. 604 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 3: Because what I realized, when there's fear there, there's something 605 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: about it that scares me that means I'm interested. 606 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: But I tell you That's why I love how movies. 607 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: Scared, but I enjoy being scared to do things because 608 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a better feeling when you conquer 609 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: that too, because you will and you can, like whatever 610 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: it is that you're scared of, you can conquer it. 611 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: And the fair is just you kind of doubting yourself 612 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: for being scared what people might think or what people 613 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: might say, and. 614 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: You got to just get it. Did you take acting 615 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: classes and. 616 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: I hired a coach? Yeah, I heard a coach. Yeah, 617 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: she don't no, no, no, I'm not playing with my future. 618 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: But what I also do is, you know, I have 619 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 3: a new manager. And she was like, are you okay 620 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: with like auditioning for small parts because a lot of 621 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: times when you already have a name and you start auditioning, 622 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: these people know who you are, so they feel bad 623 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: if they're like, this is only two lines, likes Nina 624 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: gonna want to read for this? And I was like, 625 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 3: I'll read like I did for when I started a 626 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: team D when I said I'll take out the trash, 627 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll read for whatever. I don't care. Teach 628 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: your number two. 629 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: That's fine because you gotta be humble when you go 630 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: from one thing where you're at the top to starting 631 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: in something new, respecting the fact that this is a 632 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: craft that you have to now start. 633 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not a seasoned actor, so I don't 634 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: have Jasmine knows. My biggest fear is being delusional. We 635 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 3: ask people in entertainment see people who are delusional. 636 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 2: Every day. 637 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: I will call her and be like, am I tripping 638 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 3: at least from times a day, and she won't for 639 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: sure say yes or no. Sometime I'm tripping, but I 640 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: need people to check me because I like being grounded, 641 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: and so I'm not delusional enough to believe that I 642 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: am have earned, you know, a reoccurring or a starring 643 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: role on a hit TV show, you know, coming out 644 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: the gate and just starting acting this year. 645 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't be ready, yeah, because you know when people 646 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: are being like man they gave her the staring roll, 647 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: because that is a lot to be prepared for and 648 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: be ready for. 649 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: You. 650 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: I would rather work my way ry and just jump in. 651 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: And I may sometimes. 652 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: Jumping in work sometimes it works, sometimes it does, but 653 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: for me, I am like we. 654 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 3: Have also seen the other way where people go for you, 655 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 3: like what this person is starting the movie what's happening, 656 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 3: and so it can go either way. Yeah, and you know, 657 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: I just like people around me who tell me the truth. 658 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 3: I like being told the truth. I do well with 659 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: the truth, okay, And so I like people to tell 660 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: me like, you know, like am I ready for this? 661 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: What do you think? And I have and I make 662 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 3: sure I have a team around me that that does 663 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 3: that as well. So when my manager was like, look, 664 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: you know, these are the things I'm gonna put you 665 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: up for. Like voiceovers, I do that too, like for cartoons, 666 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 3: but I've also been doing voiceovers for a lot, so 667 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: for that I'm probably a little bit more skilled because 668 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 3: I've been doing voiceovers for years. But it just, you know, 669 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 3: it just depends. But I try not to be foolish 670 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: and like my ambitions, I want to be grounded, but 671 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: also I do want to manifest. So it's a little 672 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: bit of hopeful but also like realistic. Like views too. 673 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: Well, Nina Parker, I cannot wait to see once you 674 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: have this illustrious acting career, I come back and we 675 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: replay parts of this conversation to see, Oh yeah, we 676 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: talked about this on way up at Angela. Yeah, because 677 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: that's really what this show is about also just being like, Okay, 678 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: we're way up from where we started, but you still 679 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: have way up to go. 680 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: Yes, well, I mean Angela, you kind of at the. 681 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: Top girl, but it is brand new, and just like you, 682 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm humble enough to know that I'm starting all over again. 683 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a blessing. 684 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: And some people look at it as like, oh, she 685 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: took some steps backward, and. 686 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: No, that's not what it is at all. 687 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: But people will view. 688 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: It that way because, like you said, this business is 689 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: a This is an honor for me to even be 690 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: able to have my own show, and not a lot 691 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: of people will get this opportunity. 692 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: So well, you know a lot of people are masters 693 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: of none. So it's easy to tell somebody what to 694 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: do when you haven't tried to do it, you know. 695 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: And it's the truth. It's like, if you could do it, 696 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: you should do it. But he said, if you can 697 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: make hold, make another hole, right, And it's not that easy, 698 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: it's true. And so I wish somebody would try to 699 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: come and get come up here and try to get 700 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: a show and see what goes into creating and how 701 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: much you work. And also just to give you your flowers, 702 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: I was talking adjustment because I was like, how does 703 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: Angela even get the energy to do the show, do events, 704 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: make appearances, support her friends like it's a it's it's 705 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: not easy because I go to bed, like, I don't 706 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: know how you do it. I'm like, support you on 707 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: the Instagram says I'm going to bed. I'll repost it 708 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: like you'll be outside and working. And it's not easy 709 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: to do. And so you know, I have to give 710 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: your flowers for that because and you know, and you 711 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: look good too, And that's hard to do because I 712 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: look crazy doing it. 713 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: Shout out to my makeup artists, keys, shout. 714 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: Out to coffee, because with it, I would not be here. 715 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: Uplifts people. All right, well, Nina, thank you so much. 716 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: I do appreciate it, and we're definitely gonna have you 717 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: on like a few more times, and I cannot wait 718 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: for your announcement. 719 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: Yes, anytime, anytime I'm in New York, I'll come say hi. 720 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Nina Parker 721 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: Wall