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Speaker 1: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and

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Speaker 1: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Thursday, November thirteenth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. I'm your host, Cynthia Lyttleton. I am co

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Setuda. I'm in

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Speaker 1: the world covering the business of entertainment. I'm recording this

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Speaker 1: today in the noisy backstage area of a West Hollywood

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Speaker 1: hotel where Variety is about to host our annual Business

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Speaker 1: Manager's Breakfast event. You heard all about that in yesterday's

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Speaker 1: Daily Variety episode. Today we'll hear from Pat Harvey, the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles local TV legend. She's being honored on Friday

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Speaker 1: by the National Association of Black Journalists Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 1: so is Variety's own Angelique Jackson. We'll talk more about

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Speaker 1: Angelique after we hear from CBS Los Angeles anchor Pat Harvey,

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Speaker 1: but before we get to that, here are a few

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Speaker 1: headlines just in this morning that you need to know.

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Speaker 1: Disney reported its fiscal fourth quarter earnings before the bell

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Speaker 1: this morning. Like the rest of the big media earnings parade,

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Speaker 1: this month, it was a mixed bag of results. Streaming

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Speaker 1: revenue is growing, linear TV advertising and affiliate revenue is

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Speaker 1: sinking faster than streaming is growing. The big headlines from

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Speaker 1: the forty five minute conference call with Wall Street analysts

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Speaker 1: was that the ESPN standalone app that launched at the

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Speaker 1: end of August is doing very well. According to Bob Iiger,

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Speaker 1: the Disney chief called sports fans Dream. They didn't give

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Speaker 1: out any hard numbers of subscribers, but they did say

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Speaker 1: or ESPN with Hulu or both. Iiger and Disney CFO

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Speaker 1: black heads into its third week. Iiger, of course, was

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Speaker 1: asked for his views on AI. He stressed that he

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Speaker 1: with Disney fans. There was not a peep during the

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Speaker 1: call about Disney's CEO succession plans. Disney's Board of Directors

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Speaker 1: early next year. Iiger's current contract runs through the end

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six. Overall, investors did not like much

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Speaker 1: of what they heard from Disney this morning. Disney shares

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Speaker 1: were down as much as nine percent in early trading

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. The Golden Globe Awards have tapped none other

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Speaker 1: than Sarah Jessica Parker to receive the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: Carol Burnett Award, recognizing her contributions to the television business.

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Speaker 1: SJP will join Cecil B. De Mill Award honoree Helen

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Speaker 1: televised live on CBS on January thirteenth. The Golden Eve

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Speaker 1: CBS and Paramount Plus. All of these stories and so

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Speaker 1: much more can be found on Variety dot com Right now.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for conversations with industry leaders and Variety

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Speaker 1: journalists about news and trends in showbiz. Today, we'll hear

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Speaker 1: from a Los Angeles local news legend. Pat Harvey is

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Speaker 1: one of LA's longest serving news anchors at thirty six

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Speaker 1: ABC seven anchor Leslie Sykes. She marked thirty years at

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Speaker 1: the ABCOZ in twenty twenty four and receiving the Excellence

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Speaker 1: in Entertainment Media honor is Variety's Angelique Jackson, our senior

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Speaker 1: entertainment writer. We'll hear more about Angelique's career after my

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Speaker 1: conversation with Harvey. As an LA native, the chance to

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Speaker 1: a real treat. One thing I must note, CA Cow

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Speaker 1: I know, as a consumer and as a journalist, how

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Speaker 1: hard it is to cover an area like LA Southern California.

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Speaker 1: In your years as an anchor. What have you found

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Speaker 2: to I think it's crucial. The very first story that

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Speaker 1: Over thirty six years. That is a whole lot of headlines,

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Speaker 2: And my god, over the years, I have covered so

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Speaker 1: Are there ways that you have seen the Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: Anything else in terms of milestone in your career you'd

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Speaker 1: That viewers cannot ask for more. Pat, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Cynthia, thank you, and I'll see you Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, I'm Angelique Jackson. I'm one of the senior

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Speaker 2: entertainment writers at Variety and it truly is my pleasure

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Speaker 2: to lead this talk today as we celebrate ten years

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Speaker 1: And now it's time to dive deeper into the work

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Speaker 1: of my great colleague Angelique Jackson. She'll be celebrated alongside

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Speaker 1: Pat Harvey and others on Friday. She joined Variety in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen as an events and lifestyle producer after six

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Speaker 1: Georgia football. She always champions women and trailblazing black leaders

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Speaker 1: Jackson is a big football fan and a Georgia Bulldogs booster.

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Speaker 1: This is a passage from a story she wrote last

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Speaker 1: month on the Hulu football comedy Chad Powers.

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Speaker 4: First Down came when CAAA flagged that Omaha Productions, the

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Speaker 4: Powell's character arrogant college quarterback Russ Holliday leading his Oregon

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Speaker 4: the Rose Bowl. Just when it seems like Holiday's miraculous

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Speaker 4: observing Juneteenth for as long as she can remember. Not

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Speaker 1: Congrats to Angelie Jackson for the record ignition and for

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Speaker 1: Angelique was the writer we turned to. Here's a bite

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Speaker 1: As we close out today's episode, here's a few things

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Speaker 1: The actor and multi hyphenate will be celebrated with the

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Speaker 1: American Cinema Tech Award on November twentieth in Hollywood. Next week,

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Speaker 1: Variety will produce digital dailies out of the Doha Film

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Speaker 1: logs a lot of miles in a year before we go.

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Speaker 1: Congrats to Dominic Curran, the twenty five year marketing veteran

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Speaker 1: CIA Brand Consulting Division. He will relocate from New York

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Speaker 1: to London in January. Thanks for listening. This episode was

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Speaker 1: written and reported by me Cynthia Littleton, with contributions from

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Speaker 1: Angelie Jackson and Clayton Davis sticks Nick's hick Picks. Please

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Speaker 1: leave us a review at the podcast platform of your choice,

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Speaker 1: and please tune in Monday for another episode of Daily Variety,