1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: If you've missed any episodes of Russia Limbaugh The Man 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: behind the Golden EIB Microphone, you've missed more great stories 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: from some of Russia's closest friends, family, and colleagues. All 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: previous episodes are available now on iHeartRadio or wherever you 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: listen to your podcast. On this episode of Russia Limbaugh 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: The Man behind the Golden EIP Microphone, we take you 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: further behind the scenes of the radio program. So on 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: today's show, you're going to hear from two people that 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: are connected with Rush almost for the entire length of 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: the radio show, but they were also very involved in 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Russia Limbaugh the television show, both of very dear friends, 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: both of very dear co workers of mine. Today you're 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: going to find out who Coco and Cookie really are. 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: Whether you listened every day you are at the EIB 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: network and the Russia Ball program heard on over six 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: hundred great radio stations where every now and then nation's 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: leading radio talk show, the most eagerly anticipated program in 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Americans are the stories you've never heard from the people 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: behind the scenes who knew him best and loved him most. 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Rushwood Ball having more fundily human being, it could be 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: allowed to have Rush Limbaugh, the man behind the Golden 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: EIP microphone, hosted by James Golden. 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Mike, I'm James Golden 42 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: and today it's the Cookie and Coco Shower. So yes, Now, 43 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: over the years, all of you who have listened to 44 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: the Rush Lambas showed have heard him refer endlessly to 45 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: both Cookie and Coco, and we have this isn't Coco 46 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: like hot Coco. This is Cocoa like Ko Ko Coco. Yeah, Grillo, 47 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Coco's right. Yeah, Okay, I can hear media matters right 48 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: now trying to make something racist out of that. Oh well, 49 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: let's explain to everybody Cookie, how you got the name Cookie? 50 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: How did that happened? Okay, Well, when I was working 51 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: on the Rush TV Show, there was a story in 52 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: the Washington Post about ABC News reporter Coke Roberts that 53 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: she had to go to a gala immediately after her 54 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: report that evening. So she put on she had her 55 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: evening gown under her raincoat, and they put her in 56 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: front of a green screen with the Capital behind her, 57 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: and she pretended to do a stand up live from 58 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: the Capitol in front of you know, the green screen. Well, 59 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: the story got out, and so on the Rush TV 60 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Show we did a skit where I was the EIB reporter, 61 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: Cookie Gleason, and I did a report for EIB News 62 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: and the green screen behind me kept changing locations. It 63 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: went from the Capital to like the NBC New News 64 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: car crash too. It just kept they kept changing it. 65 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: So from that day on, I was always Cookie, and 66 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, Rush always called me Cookie. So that's how 67 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: I got the name Cookie. All right, now, what's your 68 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: real name? It's no, My real name is Kathleen Gleeson 69 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: Prias uh huh. And so there's going to be a 70 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: reveal here. Sold. So now let's turn to Coco and Coco. 71 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: How did you come about the name Coco? And and 72 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: and again? And that is not Coco like hot Coco, 73 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: that's like gorilla Coco Ko Ko Ko. I came to 74 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: the Rush TV show in nineteen ninety five and I 75 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: was a production assistant and I was the low man 76 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: on the totem pole, as they say, and they were 77 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: going to do a skit about Coco the sign language 78 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: speaking gorilla, and Rush thought this was hilarious that they 79 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: people thought a gorilla could speak sign language. So the 80 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: bit was that Rush was going to do the story 81 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: on the gorilla, and I was going to be in 82 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: the little box in the corner signing for other gorillas 83 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: who were watching, and so they were looking for somebody 84 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: to put on the gorilla suite. It turned out to 85 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: be me. That'll be a chapter in my life story 86 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: and never be afraid to put on the gorilla suit. 87 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: So I put it on, and I had no idea 88 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: what was going to happen, and so we just started 89 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: the skit and Rush got one look at me in 90 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: that gorilla suit in the corner of the screen and 91 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: he just cracked up. He could not stop laughing. And 92 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: we did the skit and people loved it, and he 93 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: just kept laughing. It was like one of the few 94 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: times that Rush, you know, kind of lost it, you know, 95 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: because he always was the king of cool, you know 96 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: when he was performing, and we just went did this 97 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: skit and he was having the greatest time, and he 98 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: laughed and laughed and laughed. And then from that point on, 99 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: I was Coco. He would see me. He didn't know 100 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: my name before that, he didn't know who I was. 101 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: Before that, I was just another guy on the TV show. 102 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: But after that, every day I'd see him, Coco, how 103 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: are you? And that was it. We were. We were 104 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: friends from that point on. He just we just clicked 105 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: and we always had that memory. And I was always 106 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Coco and your real name is it's George Pryas and 107 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: there's no Gleam in that. But yeah, sorry, wait, wait, 108 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: wait a minute, and let me go backwards. And Kathleen, 109 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: you said your real name is what Carl clean PRIs? 110 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean Glee Sin's in there, but you know, yeah, yeah, 111 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: so there's a story here. So when did that happen? Well, 112 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: you know how these things happened, Jane, No, I don't. 113 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: That's why I Oh my goodness, this is so personal. Yeah, 114 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, we met on the TV show and you know, 115 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: became friends in the beginning. She didn't like me, but 116 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, I guess I I you know, was it 117 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: the gorilla suit? It might have been. It might have 118 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: been that might have been the turning point. I don't know, 119 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: but when you became friends and then at some point, 120 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, we started, uh you know dating at the 121 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: very end when that TV show ended in nineteen ninety six, 122 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, and then um we were together everything one Yeah, 123 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: it was only fifty six short months of dating. Yeah, yeah, 124 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: we always we hear a lot about that fifty six 125 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: months and so so you are you are the EIB's 126 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: married couple. Yeah that's right. Yeah, now okay before TV 127 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: so the TV show let me just go back rushing number. 128 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: The TV show which is where I met both of you. 129 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Was we were taping at Unitel Studios on fifty seventh Street, 130 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: and Russia's work day was really amazing during that time 131 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: as and correct me if I'm if I'm losing any 132 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: of the details here, Rush would get a normal time. 133 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: You you guys were already at the TV show location 134 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: and we were at the radio shop, those of us 135 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: who were working just on the radio while working the 136 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: radio show and would later come over to TV with him, 137 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: but he would do his show prep for the radio show, 138 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: and then there would be a telephone meeting. Is that 139 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: how it happened to figure out? What was ten thirty 140 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: collection call meeting? Yep? And how long did that meeting run? Usually? Um, well, 141 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: I would say about ten minutes because he knew wanted 142 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, it was all him. He was the 143 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: man with the ideas, he was the you know, it 144 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: was all him. I mean James, you know, the greatest entertainer, 145 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: the greatest performer. You know, the greatest radio showever. Rush 146 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: did it all. Yeah. And he would tell us and 147 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: which is not regular for producers were supposed to produce. 148 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: But with Rush, he you know, he would say, I 149 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: wanted to do this this. Yeah, he really was. I mean, 150 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, God bless Roger L's and Dick Menser. They 151 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: were they were wonderful, and you know, they gave a 152 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: lot of great ideas, and but Rush Brush was the man. 153 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: It was him, And there were no writers. Rush was 154 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: the writer. Yeah, there were no writers. Rush did it all. 155 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: So some of the things that Rush wanted and did, 156 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: you guys, were able to implement and make happen and 157 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: have later showed up on other TV shows long after 158 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: Rush decided he didn't want to do TV anymore. Some 159 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: of the concepts that would develop doing Rush them while 160 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: the TV show went on, and you saw them in 161 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: various places. I saw something one day on the Daily Show, 162 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: which I rarely watched, and I'm like, wait a minute, first, 163 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: did that? Ye? Ye? All that stuff I used to 164 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: do the thing with the picture with the change the lips, 165 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: remember that that changed that? Yeah? Then that became like 166 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: a standard on late night, like we'd take a picture 167 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: of Bill Clinton and put somebody else's mouth there, but 168 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: it still looked like Bill Clinton talking, but the mouth 169 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: would move and say things. Yeah, that wasn't open. And 170 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: then we used to put Rush in a box to 171 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: react to audio clips that we would play, yeah and 172 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: would he would be looking up at the those and 173 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: then we look up at the you know, Clinton or 174 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: whoever was saying something stupid, and he'd be making faces 175 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: and reacting. It was so funny in the studio audience 176 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: loved it. And then remember Robert Reich, whenever we did 177 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: a story about him, he had a box. We had 178 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: a picture of him and he could barely see over 179 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: the bottom. And most of that stuff James that would 180 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: come up in the production meeting at four fifteen. Roger 181 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: would come into the production meeting and he'd get rushkow 182 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: in a little bit, you know, like Rush would say 183 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: something to him about, you know, he wanted to do 184 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: a story and oh, Roger, would it all be funny 185 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: if we did this? You know, like Roger was outside 186 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: of the box thinker. I mean, he brought the Fat 187 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: Lady in to sing on the fifth day of the 188 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: television show because everybody said Russia's show will never make it. 189 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: So Roger had this grand scheme that on the fifth 190 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: day we would call our anniversary show. We made it 191 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: five days and we would have a tremendous, huge anniversary party. 192 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: And we brought a fat lady in who was gonna 193 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: sing or not saying if we made That was Roger's idea. 194 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: We have gotten our own gorilla, and we will have 195 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: this gorilla sign language. There it is, could you get 196 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: a eight? Jill? All is just a second? The gorilla 197 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: is signing and I'm not even saying anything about Okay, 198 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: now this, ladies and gentleman, this is an actual newspaper story, 199 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentleman, from the Northwest Herald in Crystal Lake, Illinois. 200 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: It's a story about a third grade class and a 201 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: third grade stop laughing over there, please and disject as 202 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: the section that failed a drug test over there. That's 203 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: why we haven't a little in the dark. Okay. Now, 204 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: the teacher of this third grade classes and named Mike Pincova, 205 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: and it is we should take the picture out of 206 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: the cameras there. Thanks. You know, the sad thing is 207 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: that the liberals are understanding this. You know that liberals 208 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: are saying it's Limball guy makes sense for the first time. 209 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: And I've been watching, Okay. On each episode of Russia Limbaugh, 210 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: The Man behind the Golden EIB Microphone, we follow Russia 211 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: Limbaugh's biographical journey with the help of some of his friends, 212 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: family co workers. Today is a real treat. We're gonna 213 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: look at the very impactful, influential Clinton years. When you 214 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: hear Russia Limbaugh in history. In history books, there's always 215 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: going to be a link with President Bill Clinton. Who 216 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: to walk us through those years than Mary Matlin. The 217 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: Life of Rush Limbaugh, Chapter eight, narrated by Mary Madeline. 218 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: You wouldn't note at the time, but in the nineteen 219 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: ninety two election, a battle for the ages is born, 220 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: and not between incumbent President George H. W. Bush and 221 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,119 Speaker 1: its challenger, a young, smooth talking Democratic governor from Arkansas. 222 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: That election was over. No, at this point a political 223 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: chess match for the ages began between that very governor, 224 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: now President elect Clinton and the hero of this story, 225 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: talk radio icon Brush Limbaugh. It is It's fundamental to 226 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: remember that here are the Clinton's admitting their paranoia because 227 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: they didn't know how to deal with a non supportive media, 228 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: and all it was was just me on the radio 229 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: and some other local talk show guys in the wall 230 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: spreet journal at a droll page, and they're acting like 231 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: it is the biggest threat to their existence ever. In 232 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: the process, Rush became the number one voice of Conservativism, 233 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: a mantle literally passed on by none other than President 234 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan himself in a treasured written letter. Russia's political savvy, 235 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: combined with an uncanny reality based ability to make the 236 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: complex understandable, helped the Party of Reagan get back on track. 237 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: In fact, with Russia at the helm, the GOP one 238 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: long shot landslide, victories across the fooded plane, up and 239 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: down the ballot, plus the House majority for the first 240 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: time in over a half a century, now known as 241 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: a Republican revolution. In nineteen ninety four. It was the peak. 242 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: It was huge. I'll tell you what shocked me, and 243 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: it really did. Clinton was flying into Saint Louis in 244 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four on the Air Force one. He's doing 245 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: an interview before he arrives with the morning crew at 246 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: camel X, our affiliate Saint Louis. She starts complaining about me, Yeah, 247 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: you got Russia Lindball coming up here. When you guys finish, 248 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: do you get come up at news? You have three 249 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: hour three hours say everyone, and nobody's gonna say anything 250 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: other way. No trick, Detective. Here's the President of the 251 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: United States, for the biggest bully pulpit in the world, 252 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: complaining about some guy in a radio for three hours. 253 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: It's no coincidence that the Rush Limbaugh program, as une 254 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: actually began during the Reagan administration, and though the Clinton 255 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: ears were filled to the brim with easy fodder for 256 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Rush to feast on, he spent the years after battling 257 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: a misperception that the show's success was primarily built on 258 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: the daily melodrama dished up by the Clintons. In reality, 259 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: the show's popularity exploded long before the presidency was even 260 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: a twinkle in Bill Clinton's eye. I can't tell the 261 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: number of people who believe that this program arose to 262 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: its current heights because Bill Clinton won the election. This 263 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: program got off the ground and became the most listened 264 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: to radio talk show in three years before Bill Clinton 265 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: ever fought about running for good. In the end, Rush 266 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: reminded his listeners that his program never depended on the 267 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: party that was in power. I've often had a phrase, 268 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: my success doesn't depend on who wins elections. I can't 269 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: control who's gonna win elections anyway, regardless who's in the 270 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: White House or not. By the way, just because your 271 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: team wins doesn't mean they don't screw up. The whole 272 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: objective here is to have a good show. Russ Limbaugh 273 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: hosted far more than a good show. In fact, for 274 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: decades after the Clinton administration had come and gone, he 275 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: proudly carried the conservative torch forward, both on the air 276 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: and off the air. Through the Stand Up for Betsy 277 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: Ross campaign, you changed the lives of dozens of hero 278 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: families in need. The campaign benefited the Tunnels or Towers 279 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Foundation Tunnel to Towers bills mortgage free smart homes for 280 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: our nation's most catastrophically injured veterans and first responders to 281 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: give them their independence. For gold Star families and fallen 282 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: first respond to families with young children, Tunnel to Towers 283 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: pays off mortgages in full for these families and provides 284 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: them with the comfort of a home when their world 285 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: has literally been turned upside down. And thanks to this campaign, 286 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: to Stand Up for Betsy Ross campaign you have seemed 287 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: to it that we have been able to send a 288 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: charitable donation in total of five million dollars to Tunnel 289 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: to Towers. Your kindness, generosity, and patriotism brought hope when 290 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: it was needed. Most but more of America's heroes in 291 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: their families need your support. Donate eleven dollars a month 292 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: to Tunnel to Towers at t twot dot org. That's 293 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: the litter t the number two t dot org. Let 294 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: us tell people what you were responsible for on the 295 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: Russland Bar radio show. You came over after TV. Well 296 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: how that happen? Actually, towards the end of the television show, 297 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: Rush asked me to bring in my resume and he 298 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: said to me, listen, I am looking for an executive 299 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: assistant like William F. Buckley has. Her name is Francis Bronson, 300 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: and she's fabulous. She reads his mind, she you know, 301 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: knows his every move. That's the kind of person I'm 302 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: looking for. Would you be interested in work in doing 303 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: that on the radio show? And I was like, okay, um, yeah, 304 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: I would love to do that. You know. I was 305 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: grateful to be able to continue to work with Rush 306 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: and now on the radio show I got to learn radio. 307 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: It was great, you know, great opportunity for me. So 308 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: I joined the radio show and I was in my 309 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: little cubicle doing my Francis Bronson work, which was like 310 00:19:54,840 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: making calendars and typing things up and getting coffee. And 311 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: after about five days I made a list of some 312 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: other things that I wanted in my cubicle. It was TV, 313 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: cable boxes, VCRs. And I went into him and I said, 314 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: do you is there any way you would consider getting 315 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: me this list of items for my cubicle And he 316 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: looked at it and he said, well, my business partner, 317 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: John Acton is coming over this afternoon. I'll discuss it 318 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: with him and we'll get back to you. And I 319 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: was so grateful. I was like, okay, great, thanks because James, 320 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: as person working in TV, I was not used to 321 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: having a job without TV, like I was always you know, listening, 322 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: watching hearing TV. So sure enough, after their meeting that day, 323 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: Rush and John came out of his office and Rush 324 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: had my list in his hand and he said, cookie, 325 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: good news, We've improved approved the entire list. And I 326 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: was like yes. So I got my good friend Frank 327 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: Delia to come down use a course the great engineer 328 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: mouth Hacker to come down and hook me up. And 329 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: boy did he hook me up? Are you putting there 330 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: as many VCRs as we could and as many cable 331 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: boxes and I got to record my heart out. So 332 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: that's how I started pulling audio for the show. I 333 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: would try to find things that were outrageous and that 334 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: I knew would make Rush crazy, you know, and that 335 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: meant recording them on a VCR tape giving the tape 336 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: to either. At the time, it was Marie Wahlsberg, who 337 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: was just a wonderful person who's at CNN now that 338 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: she would, you know, edit the tape for me, and 339 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: we would do a little que sheet for Rush, telling 340 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: him who what went him wear, and you know, transcribe 341 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: the sound, and we'd give it to him. And it 342 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: was like a little buffet, you know. It was like 343 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: he would pick maybe cut one or cut five or 344 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: nothing or all of them, and he would bounce off 345 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: of them, you know. And that's how it started. And 346 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: then as we got going, there was the famous Gravitas montage, 347 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you remember that. That's when Vice President 348 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: Dick Cheney appointed himself to be the running mate for 349 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: Bush and the media all said, he brings gravatas, right, George, 350 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: he brings gravatas. And so I heard like a few 351 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: of them, like four of them. So I strung them together, 352 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: maybe Sam Donaldson and you know, Wolf Blitzer and four 353 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: people saying it, and then I kept hearing it and 354 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: hearing it so that I just continued to make this 355 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: huge montage. Then they brought Joe in to do some 356 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: of the you know, the editing for me, to do 357 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: all the editing for me actually, So yeah, that's where 358 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: the gravitas, the famous gravitas. I got to brag about 359 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: her a little bit. I mean, now, you know when 360 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: people do montages, there's all kinds of services out there 361 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: that you can search keywords and stuff on the internet. 362 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: There was no none of that. She used to watch 363 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: these shows and record them on a VCR tape and 364 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: then write down the time, like we'd be you know, 365 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: you know, at night at home or whatever, and and 366 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, we'd be watching you know, Larry King Live 367 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: and somebody would say something and she'd write it down 368 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: and then she, you know, Joe would have to go 369 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: rewind that tape eight hours and find that one word. 370 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: There's no transcripts or anything. You know, that's how that 371 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: all started. And this whole industry now does this, and 372 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: there's wholes businesses that are devoted to providing these things. 373 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, she started it at her desk there with 374 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: the VCR. So that's right, Kathleen. I mean those montages 375 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: not only change the trajectory of the show, they change 376 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: the trajectory of what people on radio started doing. You 377 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: had another one, my favorite, and I love the Gravitas, 378 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: but my favorite is the tare cell cell Kathleen, and 379 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: was so loved it. He loved it. You can see 380 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: it when he whenever he played it, it would just 381 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: light him up. He'd smile. It was so fun explain 382 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: the Tauris Selly bit to people. Oh my gosh, that 383 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: is so funny. Well, John Booty helped me with that, 384 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: I have to say, and we talked about what I 385 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: wanted to do, and that was taking the prosecutor right, 386 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: George listing the charges against torres Sally, which to Sally 387 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: then Senator torres Selli from New Jersey correct and he 388 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: had given a very passionate speech on the Senate floor 389 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: denying it all. And you know, when I was a 390 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: boy crying, Yeah, go crying about his childhood, and we 391 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: interspersed the prosecutor listing all the things that he did, 392 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, watch of cash, gold watches, and then you 393 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: have Touris Sally saying something like when I was a boy. 394 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: This goes back eight from eighteenth, two thousand and one. 395 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: This is a This is a montage of Senator torres Salli, 396 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: the guy you had just heard a press conference where 397 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: he'd denied corruption charges. What we did after every denial 398 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: we inserted cut ins of a lawyer for the guy 399 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: who had corrupted torris Elli. Brand Simon, who was listing 400 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: this is not tors Elli's lawyer, it's the guy who 401 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: tried to buy trs Elli. It's his lawyer documenting what 402 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: trus Eli did while torris Elli is denying it, all 403 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: to challenge my integrity is beneath contempt. I do not 404 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: deserve this treatment. She watches a Rolex watch, diamond earrings 405 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: for his girlfriend. I have never a television set ever, 406 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: Oriental rug, grandfather Clark, other antique items, done anything suits 407 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: at any time. Parts to me fourteen deliveries of the 408 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: envelopes of cash to Torcelli's house to betray the trust 409 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: of the people of the state of New Jersey. Now 410 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: let's move over to the internet side. George, you were 411 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: over at Fox and then you were with us. How'd 412 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: that happen? Kathleen had said to me that, you know, 413 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: they're looking for somebody. You know it was there was 414 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and they were looking for somebody to start 415 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: a website for Rush because, you know Rush, he wanted 416 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: to be on the cutting edge of everything and websites 417 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: were starting to get popular then, and so she said, 418 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: you know, you should go for this job. And I 419 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: thought about it and I said sure. So I had worked, 420 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: as I said, with a Matt Rudge, so I knew 421 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. He taught me a lot about what 422 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: he did and you know, the news business. And so 423 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: I went and I interviewed with John Axton and they 424 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: decided to give me the job. So basically, at that 425 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: time Rush's website there was a website. It was that 426 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: picture of Rush where he's standing pointing to the golden 427 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: EIB microphone, and that was it. It was just that picture. 428 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: That was a still thing. I started in June of 429 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and I my first day, I sat with 430 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: John Axton and Brian click click, and they had a 431 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, plans for how we're going to build a website, 432 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: and I was going to be in charge of the content, 433 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: and so, you know, they really had no idea what 434 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: I was going to do. They said, well, why don't 435 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: you go listen to the show. You know, they had 436 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: a little room for me. I didn't even have an 437 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: office then. We barely had the internet in the office 438 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: that we were in. And I, you know, I sat 439 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: and I listened to Rush for three hours with a 440 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: I made a word file. I still have it someplace, 441 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: and I just kind of my concept was that, you know, 442 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: we're going to just cut up Rushes radio show in 443 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: like the form of a website with articles, and so 444 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: I would just listen and to what he was doing, 445 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: his topics, and I wrote the headlines down on this 446 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: word file. And then my idea was, also you incorporate 447 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: his nicknames and the things that he said, So I'd 448 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: say the truth detector, Clinton says this, or or you 449 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: know a doctor of democracy, you know, blah blah blah. 450 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: And I made this little sheet, like a little you know, 451 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: eight or nine story sheet. And after the show, I 452 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: went back into John and Brian and I showed them 453 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: what I did and they were like, Wow, this looks 454 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: pretty good. Let's send it to Rush. And so we 455 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: sent it to Rush and he says, I like it, 456 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: go for it. And that's how it stood. And so 457 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: then we built a website from the bottom up, and um, 458 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, I started hiring some staff. I hired Dean 459 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: and Mojoe and that was at the beginning there. Um, 460 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: and we just started, um translating Rush's uh radio show 461 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: to the to the Internet. Every day. Yeah, we gotta transcribe, 462 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: you gotta transcribe. Yeah, well, in the beginning, we didn't 463 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: have a transcriber. Yeah, we were. We were recording the 464 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: show on cassette tapes and like playing it back and 465 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: trying to write down what Rush said, and then we 466 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: would do like little intros into the into audio. And 467 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: then one day Russia is like, let's just transcribe the show. 468 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: I wanted full transcripts on the website and the suits 469 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: a premiere. At that time, they weren't, you know, too 470 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: thrilled with that, because you know, they thought that that 471 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: might add fodder to the people that were you know, 472 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: media matters was just starting then, and you know, they 473 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: were a little leary about translating everything Rush said, for 474 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: people to pick it over and find things to object to. 475 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: But Rush had the opposite view, which was that if 476 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: we printed transcripts of everything he said, he would be proven, 477 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, he'd be able to prove that he was 478 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: taken out of context. And he was really visionary in 479 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: that because, you know, we started printing transcripts of the 480 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: show and we have a great transcriber who did it 481 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: for us for twenty years, Mark Kisslingberry. He's like the 482 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth of captioners for the fastest order. Yeah, he's 483 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: the fastest. He's in the Guinness Book, We're all records. 484 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: He's great. And so we had the greatest radio show 485 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: host of all time with the greatest captioner, and we 486 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: would just translate it to the web. Every day we'd 487 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: print those transcripts, we'd cut him up into different articles 488 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: with headlines. And then we later we added the Ditto 489 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: cam and we added the Rush twenty four or seven 490 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: subscriber service, and we had one of the first podcasts, 491 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: and we just built that site into something that Rush 492 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: was really really proud of and we were really proud of, 493 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: and it was. It was a very unique experience to 494 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: be able to have one job was to listen to 495 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: one man talk for three hours every day, thing about 496 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: Russia's you know, James and Kathleen knows it. There there 497 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: were no meetings, there was no direction given. He just 498 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: assumed that I was going to get it right. Maybe 499 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: every once in a while he'd say, hey, I like 500 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: this headline better, or do this different way, but hardly ever, 501 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: it was just, you know, he let us go, He 502 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: let us add graphics to what he said, and he 503 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: trusted us that we weren't going to do something that 504 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: was out of step with what he was doing. And 505 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: it just really became like this kind of like symbiotic 506 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: thing where we'd listened to him and we'd know what 507 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: to do, and you know, we did it for twenty years. 508 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: Everything great boss, the greatest Yeah, just the greatest boss. 509 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Kind of job does your boss just let you just 510 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, let you do what you want to do 511 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: and not you know, just you have an idea, you 512 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: come up with an idea, you're able to illustrate it, 513 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 1: and when he does it, he does your idea one 514 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty times better then you did it, and 515 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. It's a great feeling. It's a great feeling. Yeah, 516 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: it just he was the greatest that. Now this is 517 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: where I want to ask you guys. We've talked about 518 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: what you did. And by the way, with the website, George, 519 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, for years Rush always told us he's not 520 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: going to do a website until he can understand himself 521 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: how to monetize it properly, because this is a business. 522 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: And that's what he did, and that's what you brought 523 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: to the table, a way to do it in such 524 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: a way that it became part of the enterprise and 525 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't a loss leader way, but it was actually 526 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: added to the bottom line. And that was one of 527 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: the things everybody in the radio industry then the TV industry, 528 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: websites were thought of to be loss leaders and Rush 529 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: did not want that. And that was one of the 530 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: mandates when I when I came in there was that, 531 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, we were going to make this a business 532 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: that worked. And the reason it did was because Rush 533 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: knew that the content was what was gonna make it, 534 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: and he was gonna make it. And that's what you know. 535 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: People thought that they wouldn't pay for the Rush twenties 536 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: four seventh subscription service when you can listen to free 537 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: on the radio. But Rush knew that people would because 538 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: we were providing them something that was unique. You could 539 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: only get Rush in one place and that it worked. 540 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: And he was visionary as as he always was. He 541 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: like you said, he didn't want to just do something 542 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: that everybody else was doing. He wanted to try to 543 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: blaze a new new path and we did. And then 544 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: after that a lot of radio show hosts would try 545 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: to do you know, a lot of people did what 546 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: we did, but rushed it at first. I see, this 547 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: is the thing that that that blow was my mind, 548 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: and with you too. Everybody that works for Rush could 549 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: have done something different and been highly successful at it 550 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: because they have so much talent. But when they came 551 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: on with Rush, this is where they called home and 552 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: it became a family, and it became we want to 553 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: all do the best for Rush. She's that you were 554 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: feeling on it too, Oh yes, And I you know, 555 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: I sort of ran the I don't know why, but 556 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: I just sort of tried to run the website the 557 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: way Rush ran things, which was we were going to 558 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: just improv it the way he did and we weren't 559 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: going to have tons of meetings. I mean we had some, 560 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: but we didn't have many. And we just knew the 561 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: mandate was that Rush comes first and that we're going 562 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: to follow Russia's lead because Rush was going to know 563 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: what was going to work. And that's what we did. 564 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: And so it was such a great atmosphere and it 565 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: was such a great little team. Ali came on, you know, 566 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: I think a year or two after the rest of us, 567 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: and because we were doing we needed more people. It 568 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: was it was too hard. Rush said too many things 569 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: in three hours. We had this close knit team, and 570 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: like everybody else in the organization, there was very little turnover. 571 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: We were all there for twenty years. We were there 572 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: because Rush kept us there. The Rush is so compelling. 573 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: He was so and some of these people weren't even 574 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: conservatives or or I don't even know. We never even 575 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: talked about that. It was just he's just you know, 576 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: once you start listening to him every day. For everyone, 577 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: who would want to do anything else. Yeah, I mean 578 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: it was a great job. I mean, who would It's no, 579 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if any other job like it, And 580 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I'll ever see another job 581 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: like it. It's just because nobody else is compelling enough 582 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: to say so much in three hours that you know, 583 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: really you could you could write a whole newspaper based 584 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: on what he he said. And that was sort of 585 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: one of the things we thought about the website. You know, 586 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: we're not any different than the New York Times or 587 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal of the Washington Post. We're Rush, 588 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, and we're doing it with four people and 589 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: they're doing it with five thousand people. But you know, 590 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: what he's saying is, you know, to us and to 591 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: the audience, is is just as important, if not more important, 592 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: because he's the only one saying it. You can go 593 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: to it, like he used to say, you can go 594 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: to the New York Times, Washington Post, ABCC. He has, 595 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: but there was only one Rushlumba dot com and that's 596 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: where where you got those his opinion on things, which 597 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: was groundbreaking. Turns out I knew this was happy. You 598 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: can just sense these things. November was our biggest traffic 599 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: month of the year at Rush limbaugh dot com. We 600 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: had a record number of millions and millions and millions 601 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: of page views. So that is continuing to just go Gangbusters, 602 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: and I'm really proud of it, because we're proud of 603 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: the website. It is a plethora of data and information. 604 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's its own encyclopedia set when 605 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: you get down to it. Just the daily content of 606 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: every brother, the transcript, the voluminous content in this program, 607 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: documented and preserved each and every day, and researchable by 608 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: everybody who goes to the website. If you heard me 609 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: say something on a previous program you can't quite remember 610 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: what it is, you can keyword search it and find 611 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: the exact thing that I said. The literal voluminous content 612 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: at Russia limbaw dot com. I'll stack it up against 613 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: any media website in terms of actual substantive content, not 614 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: just what the news was, but what I thought of it, 615 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: not a daily basis. Let me just ask you this 616 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll end on this note. I want both 617 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: of you to think about for a second some of 618 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: your favorite memories of Rush, and if there's one thing 619 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: in particular that you want the world to know about 620 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: Russia Lamba, what would it be. Let's start with you, Kathleen, Oh, 621 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean twenty nine years I have It's hard, I 622 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: would say My favorite memory was after my daughter, Grace 623 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: was born in two thousand and seven. After she was born, 624 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: that Thanksgiving, Rush invited George, Grace and I to spend 625 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving with the Limbaughs in Palm Beach. And it was 626 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: spectacular because we got to meet all of his wonderful 627 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: family and spend time with them. And he used to 628 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: invite seventy five or eighty family members and he'd put 629 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: them up at the Breakers and he would entertain them 630 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: for the entire weekend. And he invited us to attend, 631 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: and he was so generous to us, right, George, it 632 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Like we had had at dinner on the 633 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: Friday after Thanksgiving at the golf club, the local golf 634 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: club that he belonged to, and he before dinner, he 635 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: invited George and I to come up to the front 636 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: of the room and he was crying and carrying out, 637 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: and there were there were some other people. Matt Drudge 638 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: was there, there was some other you know friends that 639 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: he was there, and Yeah, and Coulter and Rush stood 640 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: up and he spoke about George and I and our 641 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: contributions to the show and the people that we were 642 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: and it was unbelievable and unexpected and amazing. I mean, 643 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: can you imagine, James, you know what that was like 644 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: for us. And then the next day he invited us 645 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: over to his home to watch a football game, a 646 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: college football game, and George and I we were supposed 647 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: to be there at one o'clock. We were scrambling around 648 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: at the breakst time to get out. We were late 649 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: as always, and we're on our way and I said, George, 650 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: we're going to his house for the first time, and 651 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: we don't have a gift. We got to bring a 652 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: housewarming gift or something to say thank you. So George said, 653 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: we'll stop at Green's Pharmacy. So he ran into green Swarms. 654 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: I said, buy the best thing you could buy to bring, 655 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, because Rush like like the best. So George 656 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: came out with a beautiful five pound box of Whitman chocolates. 657 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: It was the sampler. You know, you get a little late, 658 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: and I really, I know, I know we're late, and 659 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, we really, We're gonna just so embarrassing. Yeah, 660 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: and I'm looking out. You got when you go to 661 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: somebody's house, you have to bring something, even if it's 662 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh. So we pull up at the gate and 663 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: we were let in, and we didn't realize that that 664 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: at that time. When we were let into the gate 665 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: and we parked, we took a little longer in the 666 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: car to get ourselves together and to get out of 667 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: the car, and we rang the doorbell. When the door 668 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: opens and it's rush and he's like, welcome. It sure 669 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: took you a lot of time to get out of 670 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: the car. And we were like, yeah, yes, we bought 671 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: you this box of candy. And he's like, wow, well, 672 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: thank you, and he proceeded to take George and I 673 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: out to the terrors where all of his entire family 674 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: and he said, everybody, everybody, can I have your attention. 675 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: All of you people coming Thanksgiving and you never bring 676 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: me anything. She came for the first time and they 677 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: bought nice box and candy and that was just Oh, 678 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: that was the greatest day. I think that was one 679 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: of the greatest days in my life. It's just funny. 680 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: He was so funny, and he was so funny, and 681 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: he was so and he loved the tease. Oh he 682 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: would tease me to I mean, and I loved it. 683 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: I loved it. I mean, I'm just James unbroken that 684 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: he's that he's gone, and that he suffered too terribly 685 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: because he was just the greatest man. Just my life 686 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: is you know, I feel like such a big loss, 687 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sure the listeners feel the same way, 688 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he loved the audience. He would 689 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: stand after the television show every single night and greet 690 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: every audience member. What other you know, talk show host 691 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: performer would greet every audience member, Rush Limbaugh did, That's right. 692 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: He would sign autographs, he would Oh, James, I I 693 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: can't tell you. He was just the most professional, wonderful person. 694 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: I just I'm sorry, Oh Man and you and me 695 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: and George, you talk about a guy. I just you know, 696 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: there was just nothing like him. He was just, you know, 697 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: so generous. Everybody that you've talked to us said that, 698 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: but he can't say it enough, just how generous he 699 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: was with his his time and his just the way 700 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: he his nature with you, and just I don't know, 701 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: we we had such a unique relationship with him because we, 702 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, being married and having the same job, and 703 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: Kathleen's job was to watch all of the know when 704 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: Rush would used to say on the air, um, you know, 705 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: I don't have to watch these cable shows. I pay 706 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: people to do it. Well, we were those people, yeah, 707 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: you know. But George, I'm sorry to interrupt, but even 708 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: to think people don't realize about him was that Rush 709 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: was a very shy person, and he was a very 710 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: private person, but he was unbelievably generous, so much to 711 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: the point where he would be in his office doing 712 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: a show prep he would open the New York Post 713 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: and he would see that maybe something happened to a 714 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: firefighter or a policeman, and he would come out and 715 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: he would say, Cookie, I want you to find this family. 716 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: I want you to find the widow, and I want 717 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: to know how much money I can give them to help. 718 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 1: I want to write them a check so that every 719 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: one of those children their home is paid off and 720 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: they all go through college. So I want you to 721 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: get that number and come back to me with it, 722 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: and you must tell the family. They're never allowed to 723 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: tell anybody that I did that. For that, and he 724 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: did that numerous times. He did that so many times. 725 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, he just was amazing, right, I mean, we're 726 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 1: just blessed. I mean we wouldn't be together, we wouldn't 727 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: have our family. If it wasn't for you know, if 728 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: we didn't come together with him and he gave us 729 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity to work together, James, we wouldn't know you. 730 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: We love you. Know you've been an inspiration to us. 731 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're amazing. You represent us, you know, you 732 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: fearlessly represented us on those dark days in February. You 733 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: know you're amazing out there. You know you're just let 734 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: me just say something. You know. Something else Rush did 735 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: for me too, was allowing all of us to come 736 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: together and Kathleen, let me let me just in in 737 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: today with us with another story. Um. Through meeting you, Kathleen, 738 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: and of course George, but through meeting you, Kathleen, I 739 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: got a chance to meet your family too. You got 740 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: a chance to meet your mom. And your mom was 741 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: a saint and I'm not saying that, like what a beautiful, 742 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: wonderful human being who was just so gentle. Her spirit 743 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: was just so so warm and loving. And your mother 744 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 1: gave me a hand painted I don't even know what 745 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: you call, and it goes over your doors. It's flowers, 746 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: it's right right, it's yes, it's a door. Hand and 747 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 1: right hand painted it. And she gave me. She gave 748 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: me one of her hand painted door and every place 749 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: that I have been since then, one of the first 750 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: things I have ever done when I moved into a 751 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 1: new place was put that above my front door. Oh, Mama, 752 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: Gleason is above my front door right now, because she 753 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: and I will never ever ever forget your mother either 754 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: from just what is. And we can see where your 755 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: love and where you come from, and where you're from, 756 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: where your family comes from. And now you and George 757 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: have this wonderful family and we know where that's going. 758 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: So oh, thank you so much. But you know, just 759 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 1: so we I don't end crying. Can I just tell 760 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: you one short little thing, just one more thing, And 761 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: I have to tell you Russia's family and James you 762 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 1: and your family too. I mean, god, just beautiful people. 763 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 1: But Russia's mother, Millie, Oh what a fabulous lady. She 764 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: was right, yes, and she of course I got to 765 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: be friends with her right away on day five of 766 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: the television shows. So we were always keeping in touch 767 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: as you did too. And one day she called the 768 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: office to speak to Rusty. She wanted to you know, hi, 769 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: this Milli Limbaugh. How are you, Kathleen? I want to 770 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: speak to Rusty, and you know, we got talking and 771 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: talking and she said, how's your mother? And I said, oh, 772 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, Millie, she's great. She's about to go on 773 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: a riverboat cruise on the Mississippi. And she said she is. Well, 774 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm going to go down and greet the boat. When 775 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 1: is that? And I'm like, well, I don't know. I'll 776 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: call my mother, but you don't have to do that. 777 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,959 Speaker 1: You don't have to greet her boat. She's just gonna 778 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: be on the boat going on. Well, oh, that's what 779 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: we do. That's what we do. We go down and 780 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: we waved to the people as they go along the Mississippi. 781 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: We greeted the boats. Well, sure enough, James, I told 782 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: my mother. And my mother was like, Kathy, that is 783 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: so nice. I can't believe it. And I told my mother, 784 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: make sure when you get to Cape Gerardo, you go 785 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: to decide the boat and you wave. And sure enough 786 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 1: there was Millie. She was there with all her blue 787 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: haired friends, a whole bunch of them waving. Joni waveing 788 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: and my mother's waving. And you know, James, that was 789 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: that generation. They were. They were just the best, right they. 790 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if I said to George, George, We're gonna 791 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: go down to the rat and River and go wave 792 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: at a boat. George's like you right, Okay, when you 793 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: get back exactly so, but I think you know that 794 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: was million. Yeah, but thank you, James, thank you, thank you, 795 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: Thank you both walks for me dumb memorily. Yeah, it 796 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: really has been. And I'm sure I'm sure that the 797 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: that our audience is going to absolutely love it. So 798 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: thank you both of you. I love both of you 799 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: so dearly. We love you too, James. You're a blessing 800 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: and we love you. Thank you so much for joining 801 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: us for this episode of Rush Limbaugh The Man Behind 802 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: the Golden EIB Microphone, and our very special thanks to 803 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: my dear friends, my dear co workers Coco and Cookie, 804 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: George and Kathleen. 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