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See you at invest Fest twenty twenty four. 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: We've been watching the news and we have been seeing 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: that there's an uprising that's happening in Haiti right and 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: how the news, how the news had painted it was 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: that it was gangs have taken over the streets of Haiti. 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: They've exiled the president. The president can't come back to 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: the country and he's kicked out, and it's just lawlessness 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: in the streets, and that's that's all. 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: That's all I saw. 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: But when I saw you speak on CNN and you 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: kind of gave a different perspective, you gave a more 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: like overview that made a lot of sense. So I 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: think the first thing that I would like is for 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: you just to explain to the audience from you from 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: your advantage point, what exactly is currently going on in 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: Haiti and where are we now today? 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: Okay, definitely, So I would say the first thing with 33 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: the audience is there is a documentary called the Ghost 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: of seat They So Late, that we did in two 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: thousand and five. And this documentary it connects the connections 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: with the gangs and the politicians, like it puts it together. 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: And I think if y'all haven't gotten a chance, definitely 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 4: look at that. It's called the Ghosts of Seaty Sola. 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: It's a very important documentary because it will help you understand. 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 4: So for example, I was watching the Barb Marley One 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 4: Love and y'all saw how they shot at bar Marley. 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 4: If y'all never got a chance, definitely check this, check that, 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: move y'all right, because there's a connection here. So what 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: bar Marley was fighting for was so the parties can 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: get together versus being divided. They could they could be 46 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: more unified. So in this process they shot at bar 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: Marley and he ended up going to England later coming 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: back playing in One Love concert. But if y'all see 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: the magnitude of how Kingston, Jamaica was, fire, bodies on 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: the floor, all kind of stuff, it reminds me sort 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: of like what's going on in Haiti right now out 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: So it just to understand and put Haitian perspective. Why 53 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: should we care? So I think like one of the things, 54 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 4: like when I was in Black history in America, one 55 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: of the things that I wish that they had mentioned, 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: you know, because my uncle one of them, being a 57 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: scholar at a very early age. You know, one of 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: the things they told me about was, you know, the 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: Battle of Savannah seventeen seventy nine, the American Revolution and 60 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: how the Haitians played a role within that revolution. So 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: I was like, there's no way you're going to teach 62 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: me about American history or African American history, and you 63 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: don't put that in there. So for me, I want 64 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: you all to understand that we're way more connected than 65 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: we are divided, and saying that where we are today, 66 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: we're in a position where y'all saw that they murdered 67 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: the Haitian president. Think about three years ago they murdered 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: this dude. Now, think about the resources that we have 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: if we wanted to track this down. The reason why 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: I say this, here's something that you might not know. 71 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: One of the biggest embassies US embassy's period, perhaps one 72 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 4: of the biggest in the world. 73 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: Is in Haiti. So we have literally one of the 74 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: biggest embassy. 75 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: So based off of that, I think, you know, there's 76 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 4: not an intelligence that we want to find out that 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: we can't find out. So in this process to say 78 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: they killed the Haitian government, we three years in and 79 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: it's still moving very slow. So in this process, hells 80 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: a prime minister call Ariel Arip. Now, when this dude 81 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 4: take power, the thing was he was supposed to do 82 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: elections in six months. I guess the power was so 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: sweet for him that he daggled his arms and in 84 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: this process, three hundred thousand people displaced over like think 85 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: of like over three thousand deaths in like a year, 86 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: almost like you and the war inside of a war. 87 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: So what happened was the gangs was like, hold up, 88 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: this is like really messed up. Right now, what if 89 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: we turn our arms towards the people that actually gave. 90 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Us the guns? Right? So this is one narrative, and 91 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: this is very important. 92 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 4: And again I'm not preaching violence, but it's important to 93 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: understand that these guns didn't just appear out of nowhere. 94 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: Somebody had to give these boys these very expensive guns. 95 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: So in this. 96 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: Process, they said, okay, we're no longer gang members. We're 97 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 4: gonna call ourselves men of arms. Now we're revolutionaries and 98 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna fight for our country. 99 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: So in this process, Ariel leaves the country to go 100 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: to Kenya. And again this is something else that I'm 101 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: not for to get Kenyan forces to come back to 102 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: Haiti to fight. Of course, this would be backed up 103 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: by I think a two hundred million dollar budget and 104 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 4: again per year, so I'm like, but hold up, this 105 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: makes no sense, because why don't that money goes towards 106 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: training the police force in Haiti, instealing that and focus 107 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: on putting Haiti's army back in place, being that in 108 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 4: the Caribbean, we're still like the biggest people with eleven 109 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: million people. So when he goes to a Kenya, this 110 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 4: is when the revolution rises on different levels, right. And 111 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 4: I use the word revolution as a word in saying 112 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: that everybody decided their version of what the revolution was 113 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: going to be. So the guys who's no longer call 114 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: themselves gangs, they're like, yo, we are men and we're 115 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: gonna revolutionize to be freedom. You got different people saying 116 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: we're gonna revolutionize to topple the system. Right in this 117 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: process total anarchy, right. And you also have now in Jamaica, 118 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: which is a small group called Karakong of eight people 119 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: that is supposed to decide the transition of the Haitian 120 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: government moving forward, and they still cannot decide that. 121 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: So where we are today, we're in. 122 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: A brank where the planes can't land in Haiti, so 123 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: that means AID can't come into Haiti. We're in a 124 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: point where now you can't tell the difference between the 125 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: cops and the robbers, right, because everything now is infused 126 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: into forms of infiltration. So it's total in this anarchy. 127 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: What we notice is that the solution for this has 128 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: to be in the hands of Haitian people. And the 129 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: reason why I say this is because we've seen that 130 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: through policy it has failed Haiti. Like these policies that 131 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: are put in place have felt Haiti. I don't think 132 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: that it was smart for Haiti's army to be dismantled. 133 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: I think you could poll parts of institution. I think 134 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: that when people here of army, I mean the first 135 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: thing that I think about is a tool of discipline 136 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: where kids can go get education, learn a tool, get 137 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: them out of their rule areas and give them a 138 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: different environment. 139 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: So a lot of that is lost. 140 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: So where we at today, we are waiting for the 141 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 4: eight member consul, which is called which is being worked 142 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: around by Cara Kar, which is in the Caribbean. So 143 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: this is another word for y'all people be like yo, clep, 144 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: what's Caracar? I mean, think of Caracom, like all of 145 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 4: the leaders of the Caribbean that get together and they 146 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: help shape decisions, you know what I mean. So in 147 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: this process, the people on the ground in Haiti do 148 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: not agree with this eight member consul that's being set up. 149 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: They feel that the console and that idea should come 150 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 4: from the actual Haitian people. So in saying that you 151 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: have a constant movement on the ground now where you 152 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: know these the bad people is just call them that 153 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: because the good people would do that. 154 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: The bad forces are still forms of kidnaps, still forms 155 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: of rape, still forms of pillaring and the innocent. 156 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: So we're at that pattern right now, which is a 157 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: very tricky pattern and it's important that we get past it. 158 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: That's where we're at. 159 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 5: That was a very informative A few questions when when 160 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: you think about the leadership part that was interesting You 161 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 5: said that it was from an outside source, right, coming 162 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 5: from a Jamaican conglomerate, obviously trying to get the Kenyan 163 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 5: military involved. Majority of what you're speaking of, this uprising 164 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 5: that's happened in Port prences a lot of city to 165 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 5: capital city. Right when you're talking about the airport is closed, 166 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 5: we're talking about presidents being free, we're talking. 167 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: About gangs united. 168 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 5: Are there other regions inside of the country that we 169 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 5: could that leadership can be formed from and create. I 170 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: guess that new form of leadership or it's Porter Prince, 171 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 5: the place where it has. 172 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: To come from. 173 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: Okay, this is a very great question. So to answer 174 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: a question, now I try to become president. I ran 175 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 4: for president when I did, like in twenty twelve, it's 176 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: for this. 177 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: Exact reason you just said. 178 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: I was like, I remember, like when Kingston was totally 179 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: messed up, and the idea was like, you know, let's 180 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 4: focus on my Tego Bay, all your rios, different parts 181 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: of the island. 182 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: Let's start to come back to Jamaica campaign. 183 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: You know, let's figure out a duty free zone, let's 184 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: figure out tax incentives to start to make people focus 185 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: on the other side of the island. 186 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: So to your point, I always say that Haiti's. 187 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: Problem is a pr problem because people look at Porter 188 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: prints as in the total country. But what we're going 189 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: through right now, in order for the northern part, in 190 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: different part places like give you some cool names, Bookop. 191 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: There's another place called Jacquel that's where the surfers be going, 192 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 4: and they don't tell too many people, so like you know, 193 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 4: mad people don't show up. 194 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: There's another place called Jeremy, very green. So in order 195 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: for these. 196 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: Places to still develop, right, you still have a capital 197 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: where the majority of the businesses. 198 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: So people come to the capital to make business. 199 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: So in order to move forward, we would have to 200 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: start to create bigger industries outside of the capital. Right, 201 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: we start to focus on the north. Right, one of 202 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: Haiti's greatest assets is the human capital and the soil. 203 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: Right. 204 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: Haiti was known for being like the lead export of 205 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 4: sugar at one time. Again, I always say, if it 206 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: ain't broken, don't fix it. Right, this soil is one 207 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: of the biggest assets that Haiti possessed. So to your point, 208 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: it would have to start. The reshape of the thinking 209 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: has to start with the Haitian constitution itself. Right, So 210 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: the constitution, the Haitian constitution, I feel needs to be amended, 211 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 4: amended so what you've just said can become a reality. 212 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: And which parts of the constitutions should be amended. 213 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 4: One of the parts is I say that the future 214 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 4: of Haiti is in the diaspora, not in Haiti. The 215 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: future of Haiti is here in the Haitians that live 216 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: up here. I say that is because half of when 217 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: you look at the treasure and Haiti, the amount of 218 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: money that stiff. I'm not sure if y'all know, but 219 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 4: the diaspora we contribute billions of dollars a year to 220 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: Haiti just from the transfers along. So we should have 221 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: a say on who the president is, who the senator is, 222 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: who the deputy is. We from here should have a 223 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: saying of vote because we are Haiti's economical force. Because 224 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: now if we could start to have a saying a vote, 225 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 4: we can start to shape other parts of Haiti. As 226 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 4: in the diaspora right. Focus on the anti corruption law. 227 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: Make it easy for people here that want to go 228 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: back to their island and start export, that want to 229 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 4: invest in the natural resources in the country from the 230 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: mining on down. Give them an opportunity. 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