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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson show

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Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson, and it's a

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Speaker 2: beautiful Wednesday here in Pittsburgh. We are well about twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours out from the release of the NFL twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three schedule. Can't wait for that. You can also

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Speaker 2: hear Matt and I. Well, Thursday night will be doing

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Speaker 2: a little schedule release show on WDVE and yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: do it on these platforms as well, So can't wait

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Speaker 2: for that. And then of course Friday we'll start the

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Speaker 2: rookie mini camp. In the meantime, Steelers making a little

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Speaker 2: bit of news today with the release of cornerback Arthur Malett.

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Speaker 2: Should call him cornerback er? Should I call him a

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Speaker 1: There's a yeah, right, they're not the same anymore. He's

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Speaker 1: a slot, he's a nickel. So you start there, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got some stuff happening. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: schedule release is ways away, but not a ways away,

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Speaker 1: but it's right around the corner. And hopefully rookie Minni

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Speaker 1: Camp doesn't have any injuries knock on wood, you know,

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Speaker 1: anything like that. But I mean, it'd be great to

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Speaker 1: see those guys running around, maybe get some good reports

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Speaker 1: that way. But let me start with Mallett.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's do so.

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Speaker 1: So my take on the matter is, first off, you

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Speaker 1: saved about two millions that sound right with the moves, yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: picked up a little bit of capspace. Great. I still

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Speaker 1: think they could be in the market for a safety

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Speaker 1: always good to have. They had a very.

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Speaker 2: Crowded corner room, no doubt, no doubt, but in not

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Speaker 2: real defined at least to the public or to my knowledge,

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Speaker 2: slot situation, which is.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, that's where I want to go.

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Speaker 2: So they made the signing during the draft bringing in

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And every time, you know, when when they've talked about

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Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson, when Patrick Peterson has talked, he's talked about

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Speaker 2: doing some different things as opposed to just being an

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Speaker 1: Right, So I think Sullivan is just a slot though.

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Speaker 2: Janice Sullivan is is just a slot. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 2: is a So here's what. So several times last year

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin was asked about Arthur Mallett. Guys were writing

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Speaker 2: stories about him. He would be asked about Arthur Mallett

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Speaker 2: during his Tuesday press conference, and every time that happened,

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Speaker 2: Tomlin would say that he was he's a very he's

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Speaker 2: very good on first and second downs. Well, that's not

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Speaker 2: what you want your slot cornerback to be very good at.

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Speaker 1: No, it's kind of the worst compliment back can the

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Speaker 1: compliment you give him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh he's tough, he'll go in and tackle. That's great.

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Speaker 2: I want my slot to be able to cover somebody too.

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Speaker 2: And so every time they've got to second and long

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Speaker 1: So my take on it, and this further affirms it,

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Speaker 1: I just think that that's not what the slot corner

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Speaker 1: You know, He's not one of the Ideally, he's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that they feel pretty comfortable with

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Speaker 2: I think I think this largely the signing a Chandon

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Speaker 2: can't I don't know they didn't go into the draft

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Speaker 2: looking to draft two cornerbacks. I don't believe. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: Corey Trice presented himself to them in the seventh round

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Speaker 2: and they couldn't pass on him.

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Speaker 1: I bet they thought that was going to be there.

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Speaker 1: Who's the quarterback they signed Morgan? You know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well, we laid it out like there were a couple

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Speaker 1: It potential starter at a net.

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Speaker 2: At a position to need at a at a high

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's what I think happened there.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think the corner room

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Speaker 1: got really crowded really quick, and you'd rather have two

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Speaker 1: on special teams as well. But it's not a nerve

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which leads me to, uh So, cbssports dot Com

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Speaker 2: Cody Benjamin did a ranking of every team's offseason. Okay, now,

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Speaker 2: the Malet release isn't going to affect what the Steelers

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Speaker 2: did this offseason. So here's how he broke this down.

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Speaker 2: So going, he broke down all thirty two teams ranked

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Speaker 2: grades based on the tiers that they were in. So

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Speaker 2: the teams that were in the tier in the D tier,

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Speaker 2: nobody got an F okay, but five teams got d's.

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Speaker 2: That was the Rams at thirty two, Cardinals at thirty one,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little harsh, but okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chiefs at twenty nine. They haven't had a

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Speaker 2: great offseason.

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Speaker 1: No, they really haven't. I like the Taylor pickup. I

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, good luck with that. I mean maybe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have they have star power. Obviously, they have

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Speaker 1: there's some spots on that roster that aren't tremendous, right.

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Speaker 2: And then at twenty eight are the Titans.

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Speaker 1: The Titans and kind of the Rams and Cardinals to

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be super kind to them. But the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: That's next year. It doesn't do them any good this

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Speaker 2: year now. And I guess you're just talking about how

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Speaker 2: much better what they did this offseason did they get

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Speaker 2: to prove for this season? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, not that. Hey, that was a great move.

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Speaker 1: You got stuff for tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Now that that has no bearing in this whatsoever. What

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Speaker 1: For Week one, you know, to beat the opponent? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: A bunch of teams in the sea here at twenty

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't count that. So they haven't done a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's been a good two weeks for him before that they.

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Speaker 2: All they did was lock up their quarterback. They really

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Speaker 2: haven't added and I mean Odell AND's a I don't

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Speaker 1: Oh I know. I wide receivers go from the worst

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Speaker 1: Oh greed? Agreed? I mean unbelievably unreliable, just like we

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Speaker 2: And not only that, I don't have to look real

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Speaker 1: There could be some It's all pretty in May, without question.

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Speaker 1: There is some room for error, without question, in a

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Speaker 1: new system and a frustrating environment. Who's to say, But

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Speaker 1: I mean the last couple of weeks they got better.

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Speaker 1: It did nothing before that.

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Speaker 2: At twenty five, I'm not saying they should be fifteenth

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Speaker 2: not a lot. Twenty four of the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: They're another one that's going to take a big step

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty three of the Saints and they had a

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Speaker 2: Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: I said, cars an upgrade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that basically gets him out of that

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Speaker 2: move basically got them out of a D. They really

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Speaker 2: haven't added anything else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think, you know, there's a major addition.

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Speaker 2: Jamal Williams doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Move the No, no, no, that's fair. That keeps them

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Speaker 2: The teams have got bees at fourteen. The Dolphins Jalen

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Speaker 1: I'm on board with that. I mean we could fight

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Speaker 1: They've had a lot of different things that they can play.

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Speaker 1: No, and two positions. Nobody has depth that O line

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Speaker 2: They've got better defensive line depth than they've had in a.

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Speaker 2: Slay those guys aren't getting any younger.

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Speaker 1: No, No, they're they're pretty old team all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you you better be drafting well and get

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody's loving the Hey, they've looked they've added

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Speaker 2: all these Georgia guys. What doesn't mean that every guy

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Speaker 2: that you had from Georgia is going to be good

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I adore Jalen Carter. But if you look at the

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Speaker 1: defensive players drafted from Georgia the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: they're better in college than they've been in the pros. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're playing next.

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Speaker 2: To because they're playing next to a bunch of five

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Speaker 2: start like they're all good.

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Speaker 1: So it might be more Robbins than Batman that if

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Speaker 1: you look at the history, might show us like if

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Speaker 1: we look at last year's Georgia d this year upcoming,

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Speaker 1: and the two years ago, how many of those guys

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Speaker 1: turned into stars. I mean, if I had to put

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Speaker 1: chip down on who it would be Jalen Carter. But right,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean those are

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Speaker 1: swift and penny than Miles Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I would too. Yeah, but there's a reason, for example,

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Speaker 2: why Kaylee Ringo fell to the fourth round.

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Speaker 1: Stiff And I mean he's right, he's not a great prospect.

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Speaker 2: No, No. At four are the Bears. And I think

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Speaker 2: they did. I think they did have a good offseason.

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Speaker 2: They had so far to go.

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Speaker 1: I mean they entered when the season when the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl final whistle rang, the Bears owned the first overall

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Speaker 1: pick and had the most caps based in the league.

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Speaker 1: So if they're not in the top five, shame on them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you know, there's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: aces just don't lose, right, and they are better. Of

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Speaker 1: course they're better. And I think you can judge fields

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Speaker 1: now finally properly with what's around it.

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Speaker 2: I might have a problem here with number three the Panthers. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I do too. Losing trust Price Young and losing Dj

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Speaker 2: Moore is a big deal. You gave up a number

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Speaker 2: one receiver, right that you were already paying. Like, It's

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Speaker 2: not like he was gonna cost you money, right, you

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Speaker 2: had already you'd already redone the contract.

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm not saying they shouldn't have made the Young deal.

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Speaker 1: And obviously next year's first had to be a part

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Speaker 1: of that. So that aside, what spot do you think

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Speaker 1: the Panthers will earn in the draft next year?

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be top eight.

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Speaker 1: Right, and I think they were nine last year? Right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they don't think they're better. I like the hope,

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Speaker 1: you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, I'm not I'm not jumping up and down. Oh

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Speaker 2: look they got Adam Feeling and Hayden Hurst.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right right, I mean there are lines. Fine, defense

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Speaker 1: is good. I just don't see many wins.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't either.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: At two, are the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Exact the Packer conversation. There's obviously the upside down of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know that. I like a lot

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Speaker 2: of the other moves that they made along with that. No,

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Speaker 2: like bringing up bringing over a bunch of Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: past catchers from green Bay who didn't do much in

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Speaker 2: green Bay last year.

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Speaker 1: I don't like any of that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Clark was was fine, He's he's a decent player.

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Speaker 2: Nicole Hardman, Right, I'm aout an urban fan.

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Speaker 1: Cobbs, No good, Wizard's fine, but you might just get

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Speaker 1: an A from Zach Wilson to Aaron Rodgers I get.

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Speaker 2: I mean, hey, you're gonna you're gonna get an A

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Speaker 2: for that. But did you have the second best off

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Speaker 2: season of the of any team? I'm probably argue I may.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's it's it's a deservative of

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Speaker 2: an A forgetting making that move. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And Number one are the Lions. I basically understand that.

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Speaker 1: I mean the knock on the Lions off season is

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Speaker 1: you didn't use premium assets on premium positions. But I

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Speaker 1: think this isn't what this exercise is about. It's who

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Speaker 1: got better for week one and they got better for one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Cam Sutton, Emmanuel Moseley and Gardner's Chauncey

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Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson in your secondary he totally remade.

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Speaker 1: That there's a bad group before gone.

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Speaker 2: I think David Montgomery's an update great over Jamal Williams. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and obviously they think Gibbs over Swift is massive, which

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Speaker 2: I don't know what all is going on with the

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Speaker 2: Swift stuff, but they hate him well, I mean those

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Speaker 2: who know them best.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see, you know, Brian branch will help.

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Speaker 2: Brian Branchell help, Jack Campbell will help. I know people

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Speaker 2: are killing him where they where they took those guys,

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Speaker 2: but they're going to come in and play mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: I would have never taken Campbell that early. But he

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Speaker 1: could be defensive Rookie of the Year and play every snap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can have one hundred and forty tackles this

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Speaker 2: year and do all that kind of stuff. So but

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Speaker 2: that's the that was the off season move for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Steelers come out quite well on that, and well I

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Speaker 2: think deservedly so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, aggressive, great plan, good offseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and not just aggressive but calculated, frugally aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They didn't overspend for anybody, right right right, Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: didn't give They didn't give Sam Malo fifteen million dollars

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Speaker 2: a year or something like that, like they were all, yeah,

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