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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome into a Thursday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. We've got Steve Tasker here and I'm Maddie

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Speaker 2: Glab steering the ship for the next two hours. Chris

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Speaker 2: Brown is out for the next couple of days, which

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Speaker 2: is a wonderful thing about the off season when it comes.

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Speaker 2: We hate to see the off season come, but that

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Speaker 2: means that our guys here and several people you're like

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Speaker 2: the building get to take much new rest relaxation time.

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Speaker 1: So I'll say this though too, we do take time off,

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Speaker 1: but nobody wants to take time off during the season.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of fun being around. Yeah, in a February

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Speaker 1: and it's all hands on deck too. I think there

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Speaker 1: was a I don't know, I might have missed one

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Speaker 1: or two days during the season, like on a Friday

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Speaker 1: or something. I can't remember what it was. But nobody,

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Speaker 1: like when the team's playing like they did this year,

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to take any time off. They want to

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Speaker 1: come in every day. It's fun. So you know, now

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Speaker 1: it's a chance to take a breath, and now you

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Speaker 1: take a breather, give it a minute.

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Speaker 2: We'll look out the next six months of your life.

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Speaker 2: Figure out. Okay, when can I take some time off here?

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Speaker 2: Take some time off there. You're going to be out

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Speaker 2: for a couple of days coming up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're also and we're taking the show to the

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Speaker 1: Combine this year again. We always go down there. It's

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Speaker 1: always fun. We get a chance to see guys, all

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Speaker 1: the coaches with their guard down and a little more

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Speaker 1: casual atmosphere. That fun.

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Speaker 2: I'm missing out this year. I'm so bombed. I'm missing it,

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Speaker 2: but going I think I'm missing it for good reason.

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Speaker 2: You can you can be my meter of good reason

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Speaker 2: or not on the show. Okay. So, my sister lives

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Speaker 2: in South Korea. She's lived there for the last two years.

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Speaker 2: She teaches English there. I have not gone to see

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Speaker 2: her yet. So we wanted to go to see her

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Speaker 2: at some point, and we wanted to line it up

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Speaker 2: with a trip to Japan to go snowboarding. And with

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Speaker 2: the NFL season, thinking you're gonna play in the super

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Speaker 2: Bowl every year, you can't schedule a trip in winter

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Speaker 2: during January and March is getting a little too close

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Speaker 2: to spring and the snow melting. So the end of

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Speaker 2: February is kind of the last chance to get out there,

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Speaker 2: and it's something me and my siblings have talked about

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Speaker 2: for years. We watched this documentary about snowboarding in Japan

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Speaker 2: and how they get so much snow and we were

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Speaker 2: always like, this is a bucket list thing for us,

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Speaker 2: and now we're making it happen. So I will be

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Speaker 2: in South Korea visiting my sister, seeing her life over there.

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Speaker 2: At your going to Japan to go snowboarding. Yes, my

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Speaker 2: brother's coming along, my husband is coming along, and like

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Speaker 2: last minute, my parents were like, we're joining too, So

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Speaker 2: it's vacation.

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Speaker 1: I can miss you miss the combine. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to jim Short Olympics.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm excited to on this trip. Excited to

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Speaker 2: take some time off would be kind of cool, right

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Speaker 2: what I love?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm your snowboarder, not skiing. I'm an old school

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Speaker 1: I'm a snowboarder.

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Speaker 2: I started out skiing. Grew up in Chicago, so we

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Speaker 2: started out skiing on like those little bunny hills. The

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Speaker 2: skiing here is way better than the skiing in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: which to people, yeah, Michigan is a place to go,

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Speaker 2: so way better skiing out here. But anyways, yeah, start

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Speaker 2: I looked at him and I said, hmm, you look,

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Speaker 2: you look really cool over there. You want to do

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what it's all about. It's not really having fun,

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Speaker 1: it's about looking cool. So there you go. That's where

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Speaker 1: it is. I'm with you. That'll be cool, that'd be awesome.

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Speaker 1: I want to bring, you know, send pictures from South Korea.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of awesome. Yeah, that's long. That's that's not

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Speaker 2: No, it's we're gonna fly into Chicago and then we're

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Speaker 1: That's like a ten hour flight. Fourteen and they go

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Speaker 2: You go like, yeah, I think you go around that way.

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Speaker 2: So it's like I think it's around the north pole

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Speaker 2: Forward to that that's what we've got coming up. But

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Speaker 2: at this point of the season, Steve, we've or the

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Speaker 2: off season, I should say, you settle in with Okay,

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl happened, the Eagles won it. They had

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Speaker 2: You watch how the game happened, and mid February, end

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Speaker 2: of February, March, the wheels start churning in your brain

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Speaker 2: of what this roster is going to look like, what

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Speaker 2: that's out there that you want to go get in

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Speaker 2: free agency or through the draft. Where's your mind settling

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Speaker 2: right now? As your NFL brain starts to look at

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Speaker 2: the landscape of the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 1: Offensively, I think we're at the spot where when you

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Speaker 1: got a guy who's the MVP at his position, the

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Speaker 1: MVP of the league that and you've got an offensive

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Speaker 1: of this year, and at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 1: everybody eats because we didn't know if anybody had an appetite, right,

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Speaker 1: and so it turned out to be. They led the

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Speaker 1: scored more points than anybody through there for the total

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Speaker 1: turnover as we probably did this last year, just because

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Philly hit a perfect storm for a couple

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Speaker 1: We got a great pass rush. Well, the Eagles have

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Speaker 1: it's unrealistic to think you're gonna get there as a

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Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen. But that doesn't mean that's

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Speaker 1: the only way that you can win games. And certainly

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, how close it was, you're right there.

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Speaker 1: So I think the recipe, and as hard as it

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Speaker 1: the Sean McDermott all. They're gonna go out and they're

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Speaker 1: coming year that's gonna be just slightly different than the

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Speaker 1: one they had this year. Can have a different guys.

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Speaker 1: Mac Collins may not be back. You know, you got

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Speaker 1: But let's see what's out there. Get the best players

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Speaker 1: And we'll see what they can do with the defensive

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Speaker 1: So maybe somebody's gonna be like a like Shakir or

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Speaker 1: here he is right. This is who he thought we got.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's what it's gonna be. And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna sit here and talk about it all off

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Speaker 1: season and watch this draft and this combine coming up,

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Speaker 1: and it's fun. It's always fun to see this game

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Speaker 1: team take shape. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Free agency is March twelfth, so just about a month

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Speaker 2: away right now. And last year the Bills had twenty

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Speaker 2: two unrestricted free agents. This year they only have twelve,

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Speaker 2: so we might not see as much turnover on the

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Speaker 2: roster as we did last year. But to your point, defense,

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Speaker 2: we could see some turnover at that position. Bobby Babbage

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Speaker 2: going into his second year's defensive coordinator. You mentioned what

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Speaker 2: team doesn't want an incredible pass rush. You got the

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and an offensive line that changed in Kansas

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Speaker 2: have Joe Tooney moving positions and a season vet. The

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Speaker 2: you're going up against off a defensive line like the

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Speaker 2: Eagles have, it's really hard to make sure everybody's in

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Speaker 2: the right place on every single snap When you talk

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Speaker 2: about pass rush, you know what I think about what

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Speaker 2: I think would be incredible for the Bills to do

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Speaker 2: and what they have done at times, but to do

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Speaker 2: it so consistently. The La Rams have a young past

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Speaker 2: got Jared Verse, You've got Braiden Fisk, You've got Byron Young.

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Speaker 2: They draft Verse last year in the first round, Braiden

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Speaker 2: Fisk in the second round who played extremely well too,

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Speaker 2: and really it's a young position group, and ideally it's

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Speaker 2: what any team wants to do. If you want to

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Speaker 2: build up a position group, you do it through the draft,

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Speaker 2: and that's how you do it with cheap labor at first,

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Speaker 2: and of course then you're wanting to draft, You're wanting

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Speaker 2: to develop and re sign those guys. It doesn't work

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Speaker 2: all the time, but when you hit it like that,

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Speaker 2: other teams look and they say.

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Speaker 1: Man, why not us, Why not us?

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Speaker 2: How can we do that? Is there anything in this

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Speaker 2: year's draft that we can build on?

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Speaker 1: Like that. One of the things about it. I was

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Speaker 1: who used to struggle with conformity or were stifled because

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Speaker 1: of the conformity rule. Now it's like, no, just just

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Speaker 1: be you. We'll work with you. We like you the

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Speaker 1: way you are. You be you and we love you

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Speaker 1: for that. That's that's pretty empowering for these players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then in turn, what you get is you

438
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Speaker 2: don't get a player that's like, Okay, I'm making this

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Speaker 2: much money this year, I'm going to do my thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do enough to to stay the league

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Speaker 2: after this or to maybe stay here. But I think

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Speaker 2: what you get here when you let guys be themselves

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Speaker 2: is you have guys who are putting in that extra

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Speaker 2: ten to twenty percent whatever that looks like on the field,

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Speaker 2: off the field, in the training room, in the weight room,

446
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Speaker 2: you have guys really working at their craft. We've got

447
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Speaker 2: a fun show today. We have a Twitter X topic

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Speaker 2: for you guys. The question is aside from Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 2: which coach will have the biggest impact on the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five Bills. You can give us a call or

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Speaker 2: tweet at US eight h three five point fifty. Our

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Speaker 2: phone lines are open for you. The Bills have hired

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Speaker 2: some coaches, according to reports, to add to the coaching

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Speaker 2: staff this upcoming season. The Bills have not made that

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Speaker 2: public news yet on their website. I'm not sure when

456
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Speaker 2: an announcement like that is going to come out, but

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Speaker 2: that is our question for you today. And then later

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Speaker 2: in the show at two o'clock, we've got Marcus Moser

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Speaker 2: of the thirty third team, an NFL analyst for the

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Speaker 2: thirty third team. He's going to join us and talk

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Speaker 2: about the NFL offseason at large, what the off season

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Speaker 2: plan looks like for the Bills according to him, and

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Speaker 2: some other teams in the NFL. We'll talk about the

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Speaker 2: AFC East as well. We want to hit you guys

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Speaker 2: with some news and notes right now, so let's go

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Speaker 2: round the NFL. It's presented by Kalida Health, the official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and the biggest news

468
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Speaker 2: of the day. We kind of saw this coming because

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Speaker 2: it was out there a few days ago, but the

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers experience is officially over for the Jets. The

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Speaker 2: team announced on Thursday that they're moving on from Rogers

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Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. There's a quote from their new

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Speaker 2: head coach Aaron Glenn and general manager Darren Moogie which says,

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Speaker 2: last week we met with Aaron and share that our

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Speaker 2: intention was to move in another direction at quarterback. It

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Speaker 2: was important to have this discussion now to provide clarity

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Speaker 2: and enable each of us the proper time to plan

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Speaker 2: for our respective futures. We want to thank him for

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Speaker 2: the leadership, passion, and dedication he brought to the organization

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Speaker 2: and wish him success moving forward. Jets owner Woody Johnson

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Speaker 2: also released a statement that read, I personally want to

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Speaker 2: thank Aaron for his time at the New York Jets.

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Speaker 2: His arrival in twenty twenty three was met with unbridled excitement,

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Speaker 2: and I will forever be grateful that he chose to

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Speaker 2: join us to continue his Hall of Fame career. From

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Speaker 2: day one, he embodied all that it meant to be

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Speaker 2: a New York Jet, embrace our fans, and immersed himself

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Speaker 2: in our city. That is what I will remember most

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Speaker 2: when I look back at his time here he will

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Speaker 2: always be welcome and I wish him only the best

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Speaker 2: in whatever he chooses to do next. Rogers had eighteen starts,

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Speaker 2: six wins, that huge Billy's tear that happened at the

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Speaker 2: hands of the Buffalo Bills in his two years with

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Speaker 2: the Jets, and it's unclear at this point if he

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Speaker 2: will continue his career. Rogers has said that he's undecided

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Speaker 2: on a twenty first NFL season. He has one year

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Speaker 2: remaining on his contract with the Jets. It's a non

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Speaker 2: guaranteed thirty seven and a half million dollars. He was

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Speaker 2: due to count twenty three and a half million dollars

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Speaker 2: on the cap. So here's how it kind of works out.

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Speaker 2: The Jets are going to be left with forty nine

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Speaker 2: million in dead money, which can be spread over two

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Speaker 2: years if he's designated a post June one cut. In

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Speaker 2: that case, they would have to carry his twenty three

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Speaker 2: and a half million on the cap until June first,

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Speaker 2: and then at that point he'd count fourteen million in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and there would be a net savings

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Speaker 2: of nine and a half million. In the June one scenario,

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Speaker 2: they would also have a thirty five million dollar charge

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. If Rogers does opt for retirement,

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Speaker 2: the same accounting applies. And if you're wondering, can he

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Speaker 2: start talking to different teams? Now, how does that work?

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Speaker 2: We're in this period where where you can't talk to

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Speaker 2: some players but you can to others, and NFL rules

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Speaker 2: says if a club announces that they are terminating a

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Speaker 2: vested veteran, other clubs are able to talk to him.

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Speaker 2: No tryout or signing is permitted. So that is what's

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Speaker 2: going down with the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to do it. They'll sign if

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Speaker 1: they designate him a post June one, which looks like

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Speaker 1: that's what they're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna do, and that would make the most sense.

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Speaker 1: They can agree to all the terms, they just can't

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Speaker 1: sign anything until post June one, after he's released, but

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Speaker 1: they can talk to him for sure, and the Jets

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have any problem with it anyway. But yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: free agent. Basically. It'll be interesting because even his at

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Speaker 1: forty one, he's a better option than a lot of

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Speaker 1: the teams in the NFL have at the present moment,

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Speaker 1: although it would be a short lived option. He's forty one,

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Speaker 1: he's really old for a quarterback, but nevertheless, he can

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Speaker 1: still throw it a little bit, and he's, like I said,

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Speaker 1: he's an upgrade. He mentally, he's way above a lot

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Speaker 1: of other guys. So I think he'll get some interest,

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Speaker 1: There's no question about it. He will get interest from

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Speaker 1: other teams, and if he wants to, I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any question he'll be able to play this next year.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think if that's what Rogers decides, I

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Speaker 2: think there's going to be a home for Rogers somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, he's forty one, but in some cases,

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Speaker 2: still a better.

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Speaker 1: Option, even if it's think about it, even if it's

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, yeah, right, or I think Pittsburgh or

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Speaker 1: one of those teams, those two teams in particular, it's

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Speaker 1: not out of the realm possibility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But then you ask the question of Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: is not Obviously he is not a long term fix

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Speaker 2: for teams. So you're looking at teams who right maybe

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Speaker 2: need a year buffer here while they're waiting on whoever

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Speaker 2: is going to be their next quarterback. This draft is

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Speaker 2: not being dubbed as a quarterback heavy draft or a

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Speaker 2: talented quarterback draft, look into next season, after this year,

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Speaker 2: after the twenty twenty five draft, look into twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six NFL draft, and it gets better at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: So there might be a team out there. Not there

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Speaker 2: might be there are teams out there looking for quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: but there might be a team with their eyeset on

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six in terms of drafting their next guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, think about it, Cleveland, the Giants, all

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Speaker 1: these teams are at the top of the draft. Those

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Speaker 1: two teams are in Vegas. They could draft their quarterback,

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Speaker 1: have Aaron Rodgers there for a year or something to

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Speaker 1: mentor to have the kid, you know, learn from him,

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Speaker 1: and then step in the next year. So he would

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Speaker 1: be a perfect bridge quarterback for those teams who are

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Speaker 1: actually still going to probably take a draft a quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the draft. So yeah, I think Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 1: going to continue to linger here in his forties in

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Speaker 1: the NFL for the short term future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty one years in the league. If he continues

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Speaker 2: to play next year, that is a long time. That

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Speaker 2: is wild. His NFL career started in two thousand and

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Speaker 2: five with Green Bay, obviously, where he spent most of

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Speaker 2: his career and then the last two years with the

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Speaker 2: New York Jets. We're going to take a break, but

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Speaker 2: when we return, we will continue on with some other

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Speaker 2: NFL news and notes to also get into our retweet sheet.

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Speaker 2: With our question, aside from Sean McDermott, which coach will

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Speaker 2: have the biggest impact on the twenty twenty five bills,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about that. Next One Bill's Live is presented

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Speaker 2: by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back here

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Speaker 2: on One Bills Live Maddy glab alongside of Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 2: Our question for the day is a good one. Aside

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Speaker 2: from Sean McDermott, which coach will have the biggest impact

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Speaker 2: on the twenty twenty five bills. You can give us

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Speaker 2: a call here at eighth three, five point fifty. The

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Speaker 2: phone lines are open for you. We're going to continue

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Speaker 2: on with a couple news and notes that we haven't

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Speaker 2: hit yet. One is regarding one of Buffalo's scouts, Terrence Gray,

590
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Speaker 2: who is the director of player Personnel. He's been with

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Speaker 2: the Bills since twenty seventeen when Brandon Bean walked through

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Speaker 2: these doors. It was just announced that the Jaguars completed

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Speaker 2: an interview with Gray on Wednesday for their GM opening.

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen was hired as their head coach at the

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Speaker 2: end of January. He was last with the tim Bay

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers as an offensive coordinator. Earlier in January, Gray also

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Speaker 2: interviewed with the Tennessee Titans. He's been a name that's

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Speaker 2: been brought up and and been interviewed over the last

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Speaker 2: couple hiring cycles for GM jobs. I know we would

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Speaker 2: hate to see him go. He's a great asset to

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Speaker 2: the scouting department and it's just a great person to

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Speaker 2: be around. But I would assume his time is coming

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Speaker 2: where he gets an opportunity like that to run his

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Speaker 2: own department and see what he can.

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Speaker 1: Do for an That's just like it's just like the

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Speaker 1: coaching side of it. When you get a chance to

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Speaker 1: go to the top guy and be a GM, you're

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Speaker 1: going to take it. And Terrence Gray has been around

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Speaker 1: a building since twenty seventeen when he got here. This

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Speaker 1: has been a pretty elite building. I know, the culture,

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Speaker 1: the way they have, you know, found gyms in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Certainly you can argue about their top picks not being

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Speaker 1: game breakers, but certainly they're all solid pros and that

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Speaker 1: I think speaks well for someone he goes to. If

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Speaker 1: he does go to a team like Jacksonville or another team.

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Speaker 1: The Titans interviewed him for their GM vacancy as well.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have some experience and know he's you don't

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Speaker 1: know what it looks like and know how the building

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Speaker 1: should work.

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Speaker 2: Definitely after watching what the Eagles did in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow was interviewed on Wednesday by Pardon

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Speaker 2: My Take. The interview was released on Wednesday, I should say.

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Speaker 2: He was asked to describe his five year, two hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy five million dollar contract extension signed in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, and how it could be altered and help

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Speaker 2: give the Bengals extra salary cap flexibility to ink wide

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Speaker 2: receivers Jamar Chase and t Higgins to the lucrative extensions

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Speaker 2: that they're seeking. Burrow said, Hey, you could convert some

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Speaker 2: of the money to a signing bonus, which will lower

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Speaker 2: the cap hit. You can push some of the money

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Speaker 2: to the back end of the contract that lowers the

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Speaker 2: cap hit, and then when you get back to the

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Speaker 2: end of the contract, you could restructure it and convert

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Speaker 2: it into a signing bonus. You can also just take

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Speaker 2: less money. Later in the interview, Burrow pointed out that

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Speaker 2: most players just convert the money into a signing bonus,

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Speaker 2: a method he would be willing to pursue. Higgins was

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Speaker 2: limited by injuries this past season, but is projected to

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Speaker 2: be the number one free agent if he hits the

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Speaker 2: open market. According to ESPN, Chase is coming off a

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Speaker 2: historic season as we know, triple Crown season. He was

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Speaker 2: a finalist for Offensive Player of the Year, and then

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Speaker 2: defensive end Trey Hendrickson, who had who so many sacks

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Speaker 2: this cast seasons he wants a new deal after leading

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Speaker 2: the league in sacks, was also Defensive Player of the

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Speaker 2: Year finalist. Burrow's contract is the one the Bengals have

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Speaker 2: to work around because it occupies the most cap space.

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Speaker 2: Of course, according to Roster Management System, Burrow is projected

649
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: to have a forty six point three million dollar cap

650
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 2: hit in twenty twenty five. The Bengals are also projected

651
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: to have forty five point nine million in cap space,

652
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: but that's before any money gained by shedding veteran contracts

653
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: or costs incurred for signing the necessary players to start

654
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: a season. In addition to an incoming draft class. Burrow

655
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: enters his sixth NFL season in twenty twenty five, so

656
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Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see what happens in Cincinnati. Definitely

657
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on because these are some

658
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: big name players that could or could not be on

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Speaker 2: the roster next season.

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Speaker 1: How Cincinnati handles all these deals is going to be telling.

661
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson might be, you know, on the outside looking in.

662
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: He's had seventeen and a half sacks in each of

663
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: the last two seasons, thirty five sacks two years, and

664
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Speaker 1: so he's going to be widely sought after. Certainly the

665
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: Bengals could trade him for draft picks, no question about it.

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00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: That's I mentioned his name a lot because there's no way,

667
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: given what we know about Cincinnati and their history, they

668
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: don't like to pay. They are really averse to, you know,

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Speaker 1: the cost of doing business. And we'll see if that

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Speaker 1: continues to be the case. I don't think that Mike

671
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: Brown is as involved in the day to day as

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Speaker 1: he has been in generations past. Mike Brown the son

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Speaker 1: of Paul Brown. Now it's a family run business, and

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Speaker 1: so we'll see how they handle this. But you know,

675
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: they gave Joe Burrow a top of top flight contract.

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Speaker 1: Whether they're willing to alter that deal, I think as

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00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: a telling they don't. They don't do that too much.

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00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is in a tough spot because they franchised T

679
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: Higgins this last year and whether if they do that again.

680
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm t Higgins will maybe he'll sign it and go

681
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: again because it's top it's top money. Yeah, a lot

682
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: of people are circling Cincinnati wondering what they're gonna do

683
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: because T Higgins is going to be a guy people

684
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: want to get their hands on. Cincinnati may just let

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00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: him walk. And you say, listen, Joe, you got to

686
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: do it. And Josh Allen did it with just jo Jamar. Yeah,

687
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it with Jamar. Josh Allen did it

688
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: with just a bunch of guys. Pat Pat Mahomes did

689
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: it without Tyreek, and they drafted a couple of guys.

690
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: We can draft another guy too, but you just might

691
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: have to. We just might ask you to just keep going,

692
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: just keep on keeping on. They lost Joe Mixon this

693
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: last year. He went to Houston. Joe Mixon was a

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Speaker 1: dynamite back, I know, so the Bengals might just say, hey, listen,

695
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Speaker 1: if you're making fifty if you're averaging fifty five million

696
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: a year over the life of this contract, we'll see

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Speaker 1: you earn it.

698
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: Bengals finished the season nine and eight. They were not

699
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: in the playoffs in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three

700
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: also nine and eight. So you've got this talented quarterback

701
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: and you don't want to waste time. But you also

702
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: look at what other quarterbacks are doing in the league,

703
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: who are getting paid top end money, and you say, well,

704
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Speaker 2: if they're doing it, why can't.

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Speaker 1: We do it right? And that's what happened last year

706
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: with well Pat Mahomes been doing ever since they traded

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00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: away Tyreek Hill. And now Josh has proven he can

708
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: do it. Lamar has done it with a running back,

709
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: and they do it a little bit differently than everybody

710
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: else with the running game and Derrick Henry and they

711
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: spent some money on running back, while you know, the

712
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: Bills didn't, and and the the Bengals traded theirs a way.

713
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Speaker 1: But the Eagles won the Super Bowl with a with

714
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Speaker 1: an elite running back. You know, they just tell a

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Speaker 1: quarterback you gotta you got to pick up the slack

716
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting because it's a problem. It's good now, listen,

717
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Speaker 1: it's a great problem to have all these great players

718
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: on your contract.

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Speaker 2: You have a quarterback, and you.

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Speaker 1: Got a quarterback. All it all it takes to keep

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Speaker 1: him is money. Yeah, salary, Kaeperno, I mean you can.

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Speaker 1: I mean Joe Burrow said it. He's a forty two

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00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: million dollar cap You said, he's a forty two million

724
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: dollar cap hit. You can get forty million bucks back

725
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: just like by giving it to him up front.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And is the question is is the owner willing

727
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: to do that?

728
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Speaker 1: Is he willing to do it?

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00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that falls on the owner.

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Speaker 1: You've got fifty million cap space as well, so they

731
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: can they can afford these deals if they want to

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Speaker 1: bite the bullet and spend the money in very few

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Speaker 1: places instead of across the entire roster.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. NFL dot Com released tackling

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00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: grades for all thirty two teams. These grades are according

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Speaker 2: to next Gen stats and AI model that they ran,

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Speaker 2: and I was wondering, Okay, where do I think the

738
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Speaker 2: Bills are going to fit in this conversation, hoping that

739
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: they're in the top fifteen. Well, they are They fall

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Speaker 2: at number twelve with a eighty one grade B minus,

741
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Speaker 2: so room to improve, but not bad in the top

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Speaker 2: half of the league. If you I want to know

743
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Speaker 2: who are at the top five, it goes Chiefs at

744
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: number one, Ravens at number two, Broncos at number three,

745
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Speaker 2: Steelers at number four, and Lions at number five. A

746
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Speaker 2: lot of those teams had good seasons this year. The

747
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Speaker 2: Bills finish above league average with an eighty six point

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Speaker 2: eight percent efficiency mark. Dorian Williams led the team with

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirteen tackles this season and just missed

750
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Speaker 2: nine all season. What an improvement from last season, his

751
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Speaker 2: rookie year, where you saw the physicality, you saw the

752
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Speaker 2: athleticism within a linebacker like Dorian Williams, but what was

753
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Speaker 2: missing was a true understanding of the defense and kind

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Speaker 2: of just playing all out on every single play. And

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Speaker 2: in year two in Williams' NFL career, you saw him

756
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: be a lot more patient of a linebacker and I

757
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: think improve in a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Different Yeah, he really became a much better tackler than

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00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: he was two years ago. And even so he did

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Speaker 1: he played when Milano was out, which you know, unfortunately

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00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: was a significant chunk of time. Yeah, we played extremely

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Speaker 1: well and he was where the ball was Defensively. I

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Speaker 1: would think Williams has a is thinking to himself this

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Speaker 1: offseason that I need to get I need to be

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Speaker 1: the starter this next coming year. I think that's where

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00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: his head's got to be and perhaps we'll see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Milano has a healthy offseason to prepare for

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00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. But you have a great linebacking core

769
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Speaker 2: in Buffalo with Matt Milano, Trel Bernard and Dorian Williams.

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Speaker 2: Those three can do a lot in our big strength

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Speaker 2: of Buffalo's defense. Also a fun tidbit from that article

772
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Speaker 2: on NFL dot com, Taylor Rapp didn't miss many tackles either.

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Speaker 2: In fact, he has the fourth lowest miss tackle rate

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. I was happy to see a stat

775
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: like that from a safety who will be back on

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Speaker 2: the roster this upcoming season. We know DeMar Hamlin is

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00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: set to become a free agent, but to know a

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00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: guy like that who performed well for Buffalo last season.

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Speaker 2: You see it in some of these metrics, these next

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Speaker 2: gen stats metrics as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I said it. I said it the other

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Speaker 1: day when we were talking about it with Brown and I.

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Speaker 1: The best defenses in the league are the ones that

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Speaker 1: missed the fewest tackles, and the first guy to the

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00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: football makes the tackle. It sounds simple, and that's it

786
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Speaker 1: is the first gut defender to the ball the guys

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Speaker 1: on the ground. That's the way it works. The best

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Speaker 1: defenses are like that. The Chiefs, the Ravens, the Broncos, Steelers,

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Speaker 1: the Number five Lions, all those teams are in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And it's not by accident. You watch film and that's

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Speaker 1: what kind of jumps out at you when one of

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Speaker 1: the defenders gets to the ball. And you see a

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Speaker 1: lot of great back James Cook did it, Barkley does it,

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00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: even Derrick Henry does it, although differently they make guys miss.

795
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Speaker 1: If they can't make guys miss, they don't get yards.

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00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: And it's that simple. Great defenses tackle well. And I

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00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: you know the old guy, I know all the old

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00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 1: guys out there right told you that. You know it's true.

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Speaker 1: It's true. It's hard to tackle in the NFL because

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to hit like you used to hit

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00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: and like team were like the rules allowed you to

802
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: in years past. But it still remains true. If you

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00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: can tackle and tackle well, you're gonna have a pretty

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Speaker 1: good defense.

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Speaker 2: And the Bills were number let a number twelve. Let's

806
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: see if they can improve. In twenty twenty five, Chiefs

807
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: were number one and they were in the Super Bowl.

808
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: Ravens were right next to them, and they made it

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs as well. We're gonna take a break,

810
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Speaker 2: but when we returned, coming up at two o'clock, NFL

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Speaker 2: analysts for the thirty third team, Marcus Moser is joining

812
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: us to talk about the offseason in some of Buffalo's

813
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: biggest needs. Stick with us here on One Bill's Live

814
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: were presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

815
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Speaker 2: back into One Bills Live. We've got a question for

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00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 2: you today. Our question is, aside from Sean McDermott, which

817
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: coach will have the biggest impact on the twenty twenty

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00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: five Bills. We've had some callers that have been hanging

819
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Speaker 2: on the line, So let's go right over to Butch

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Speaker 2: from the East side. What's up, Butch? How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Queen Maddie.

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Speaker 4: Queen Maddie and my King Steve.

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Speaker 3: So good to hear your boys.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for taking my call. I love the MSG,

825
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 4: I loved ZOEGR and all the fans.

826
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Speaker 3: Around the world.

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Speaker 4: I definitely love you. I have real quick things to say,

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Speaker 4: but I got ask Steve a favorite first. You guys

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Speaker 4: did a thing, and the world know about my friend

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00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 4: Roderick Merle aka Slick Rick. Yes, I grew up with them.

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Speaker 4: He's a great guy, great family. I remember years ago

832
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: I was on the ECC South making us some classes

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00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 4: and I remember he was on the bus and I

834
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Speaker 4: asked him, this is about lady. He's had to be

835
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 4: about thirteen years ago, twelve years ago, and he was

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00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: in the cafeteria at that time, working with the you know,

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00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: feeding the players. He's excited and I'm proud of him.

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00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 4: And I just want to ask a favorite, Steve, because

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Speaker 4: fifteen years he's been coming from downtown, coming out of

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00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 4: Orchard Park on the bus. And I know you guys,

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00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 4: I know you personally, Steve. You have a connection with

842
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 4: West Hurd, Northtown Auto, etc. The whole world knows about

843
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: this guy. Now, ESPN, anybody else jobs put this man,

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Speaker 4: as you guys already knowing New Orleans on the state's

845
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: NFL players. I'm asking West Hurd and Steve, maybe you

846
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: can help me if west Her or somebody over there

847
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: can donate him a truck or something to get back

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00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 4: and forth from downtown to Orchard Park, and that would

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00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: go based off because one thing about Bill's mafia. We

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00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: I know when I get the email, I send money

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00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: all across any foundation that they asked for. Let's let's

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00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: take care of our own right now, and piggyback what

853
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: our MVP said about the guy. Bring this man in

854
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: a vehicle. He's always going to do our standing job.

855
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: He comes an hour before his job every day. Steve,

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00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: you got you and Maddie, you guys see slick all

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00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 4: the time. You know what I'm speaking about. That's that

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00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: real quick, real quick. I want to say, James Cook,

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00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: pay the man all Star, super Super Superstar and making

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00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 4: he's not actually the nineteen million like Christian McCaffrey's getting

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00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: Acts fifteen. I think that's a fair price. And the

862
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 4: last thing is the question that you say. I think

863
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 4: Roger Nilson, our new defensive assistant, is going to have

864
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 4: the most immediate impact on this on this staff, because

865
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 4: I really believe Sean mc durmams really turning the defense

866
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: over to Bobby and him, and they're really going to

867
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: run a real four to three man in man press

868
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 4: coverage and we're going to be seeing something different than

869
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 4: we normally see. I love you guys, and so much

870
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 4: to think of my call and tell Brownie he played

871
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: hooky today, but I love him to it. I love

872
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 4: the staff there too, Thanks so much.

873
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: Thank you so much much appreciate the call.

874
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, for Ricky, I'm yeah, there's a

875
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: movement online to get Ricky a car, so we'd have

876
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: to ride the bus in. I haven't talked to rick

877
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: about it. He may like riding the bus. I don't know.

878
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: He may seriously I don't, But be that as it may. Yeah,

879
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: don't put me in the middle of a car dealership

880
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: war for that. But if you, if you, if people

881
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: had that movement out is out there, and if you

882
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: want to be a part of it, go online and

883
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: see if you can and hook Rick up with a

884
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: with a truck. So yeah, aside from that, you're but yeah,

885
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: I know you listen to the show. You call in

886
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: every so often. I'll say this, fifteen million bucks for

887
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: James Cook is a tough nut to swallow. The thing

888
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: for me, is I don't know how much tyd Johnson makes,

889
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how much Ray Davis makes raise on

890
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: a rookie deal. All of that. The difference is you're

891
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: paying for any running back if you're gonna pay like

892
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: a Christian McCaffrey or Derrick Henry or Saquon Barkley. The

893
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: difference between those guys, James Cook, Barkley, I'm putting James

894
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: in the in the conversation with those guys. What is

895
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: the difference between that and what you get from Ty

896
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: Johnson and Ray Davis or a guy you draft this year?

897
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: If it's if it's like if James Cook's gonna make

898
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: five million if he stays on the contract he's at.

899
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: So if you're talking about fifteen, you're talking a ten

900
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: million dollar difference for what another guy would give you.

901
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's hard. That's a hard place to

902
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: get to. And that's what running backs are up against

903
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL, not just not just James Cook, but

904
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: all of them. That's what happened. That's why Saquon is

905
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: an Eagle and not a Giant. It's a big number

906
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: and the replacement value is cheap. It's cheap labor. That's

907
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: and that's a hard thing. Plus and I know this,

908
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: James Cook's got to get it. While he's getting it.

909
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: He's twenty five, twenty six now, it's gonna be twenty

910
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: five or he's gonna be twenty. Right in there, he's

911
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: in the right where he needs to hit a home

912
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: run financially. So he's right in asking for the entire

913
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: planet to be paid. I just don't know if he's

914
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: gonna get there. At running back, you got a quarterback

915
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: that's the MVP. He did it with a bunch of

916
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: guys this year. Certainly you got a bigger opportunity. If

917
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: you're James Cook, then a lot of guys have gotten

918
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: You only played on first and second down though. I mean,

919
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot in that. And as much as I

920
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: love James Cook, they're gonna have to sit down and

921
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: negotiate that deal. In my eyes, I think that's gonna be.

922
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: That's gonna be an ongoing conversation.

923
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: There aren't many quarterbacks who make double digit numbers in

924
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: terms of millions. Right now, there's if you look at

925
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 2: average sorry running backs, yes, average per year. There's five

926
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: five running backs right now that are averaging over ten

927
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: million dollars per year. So if that's what you're gonna

928
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: pay James Cook, who had an incredible season tied for

929
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: the tied for the lead in rushing touchdowns with sixteen,

930
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: then you're putting him in that category of one of

931
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: the best NFL running backs in the league and you're

932
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: willing to pay for that. It'll be interesting to see

933
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: if those negotiations take place this offseason and who the

934
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: Bills are prioritizing extending, because there's a slew of players

935
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: that are going to be up for extensions here this

936
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: year and next year as well. We're going to take

937
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: a break, but when we return, we've got Marcus Moser

938
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 2: of the thirty third team joining us, an NFL analyst

939
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: who's going to help us talk about the off season

940
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: and what Buffalo needs to chase this offseason. We're One

941
00:50:42,360 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: Bills Live. We're presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

942
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

943
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 2: Welcome into our number two of One Bill's Live. Mattie

944
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: Glab alongside of Steve Tasker filling in for Chris Brown

945
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: for the rest of the week. In our number two

946
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: of this show, we'd like to welcome one of our guests.

947
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: It's the thirty third team NFL analyst Marcus Moser is

948
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: going to join us for this segment. Marcus, thanks so

949
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: much for taking the time to talk about the off season.

950
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 5: Or so, I'm excited to get into it all right.

951
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: You had an article that came out recently where you

952
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: detailed what every NFL team should do in the off season,

953
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: one move that they should make, and for Buffalo, you

954
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: had their biggest need being cornerback. Why do you think

955
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: the Bills should have their eye on a premier corner

956
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: in free agency or the draft.

957
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 5: Well, we saw in the playoffs once Christian Benford went

958
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 5: down with an injury, the Chiefs just attacked Kyrie Elam

959
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 5: on the other side over and over again. It's one

960
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 5: of the positions that's given them a lot of problems

961
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 5: over the years, and with Rasul Douglas being a free agent,

962
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 5: it just makes sense to continue to add depth and

963
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 5: talent to that position now, whether they do that through

964
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 5: free agency, the draft, or maybe even a trade. I

965
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 5: think Buffalo's got to prioritize outside cornerbacks so when they

966
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 5: go up against these elite offenses, whether it's Kansas City

967
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 5: or Baltimore, or let's say they make it to the

968
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 5: Super Bowl and they play the Eagles and you're facing

969
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 5: the aj Brown types of the world. You need to

970
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 5: have the corners that can match up with those guys

971
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 5: and play me and to man coverage. I think they

972
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 5: had it at times this year, but I think that's

973
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 5: a spot they needed to continue to address.

974
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because after the Super Bowl, you know,

975
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: most teams out there say, wow, we got to get

976
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: a front four, like the Philadelphia Eagles, we got to

977
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: get our pass rush. That's how you fight these elite

978
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, these elite offenses is at the front end

979
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: of the pass. How realistic is it, though, when you

980
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 1: see how the Eagles put it together and the guys

981
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: they've got up there, I mean it could You could

982
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: go down that road and never reach the end of it.

983
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: Trying to replicate what the Eagles have done with their

984
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: front four.

985
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: No, and you can't.

986
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 5: I mean, they've done a really good job of building

987
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 5: two full units of players that would start for just

988
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: about every team. You just got to continue to fill

989
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 5: the holes that you need to be filled. And yes,

990
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 5: I think pass rushers obviously a position in Buffalo could address,

991
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 5: and we know this draft has a lot of good

992
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 5: dead rushers. I think free agency they could even grab

993
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 5: a guy or two there. But also look at what

994
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 5: Philadelphia did this offseason. They went out and they grabbed

995
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 5: Quinjon Mitchell and they grabbed Cooper Degene in round run

996
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 5: in round two to help shore up their secondary. So

997
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 5: unfortunately with the Eagles, they're just loaded at every position.

998
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 5: In any strategy that they they used last year worked.

999
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 5: You've got to just go do what's the best for

1000
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 5: your team, and I think for Buffalo it's adding more

1001
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 5: players in the secondary and just more depth overall on

1002
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 5: that defense.

1003
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so cornerback aside, you speak to depth at defense overall,

1004
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: is there anything that you saw the Eagles do in

1005
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl that made you think, man, Buffalo could

1006
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: really use this if they want to get past the Chiefs.

1007
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1008
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 5: I think always if you can go out and get

1009
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 5: the edge rushers so you don't have to blitz, I

1010
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 5: think that's always something you want to do.

1011
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 3: Now Buffalo is obviously I've got.

1012
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 5: Some really good edge rushers, including Gregory, so they're hoping

1013
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 5: some of the young guys continue to develop. But Mattie,

1014
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 5: you can never have too many good edge rushers, and

1015
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 5: if the right guy comes to them in free agency,

1016
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 5: maybe that's a veteran on a one year deal, or

1017
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 5: in the draft, where this is one of the deepest

1018
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 5: drafts we've had in a recent memory. At defensive end,

1019
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 5: if the right guy falls to you, I think you

1020
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 5: do that. But again, I think for Buffalo it just

1021
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 5: has to be anywhere on defense. We saw this defense

1022
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 5: this year be really good against some bad teams, but

1023
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 5: when they played the likes of the Rams, the Lions,

1024
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 5: the Ravens, and the Chiefs, they just didn't measure up.

1025
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 5: So I don't think you can turn down any elite

1026
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 5: talent at any spot on defense.

1027
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: So how realistic is it? Because we've heard, you know,

1028
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett once out of Cleveland. We've heard rumblings that

1029
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is brand new head coach. Maybe he'll trade

1030
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: for some traft capitol and let Max Crosby walk out.

1031
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson's want another deal in Cincinnati, and they already

1032
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: have t Higgins on the burner and Jamar Chay the

1033
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: whole thing. So how realistic as you look around a

1034
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: guy Miles Garrett Okay, maybe, but man, oh man, Cleveland's

1035
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: in a deep financial pit to try and get rid

1036
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: of him. Max Crosby may be one of the few

1037
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: pieces that the LA or the Las Vegas Raiders have

1038
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: in place. Same thing with Trey Hendrickson all this stuff.

1039
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: How realistic is it for one of these premier pass rushers,

1040
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: so maybe the three I mentioned? How realistic is it

1041
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: to move them? First of all, and how likely is

1042
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: it that Buffalo would be a place they could be

1043
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: a candidate?

1044
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 5: Not very likely because I just don't see Buffalo giving

1045
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 5: up multiple assets to do that. I don't think they

1046
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 5: want to give up a second or third round pick,

1047
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 5: and in the case of like Miles Garrett, probably multiple

1048
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 5: first round picks and then turn around to pay him.

1049
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 5: I just don't think Buffalo is in.

1050
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: The business of doing that.

1051
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 5: But there are other pass rushers that are expected to

1052
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 5: hit the free agent market that I do think makes sense.

1053
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: A Khalil Mack.

1054
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 5: I know he's getting a little bit older, but could

1055
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 5: you sign him to a one or two year deal?

1056
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 5: I think that makes a lot of sense. I think

1057
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 5: Buffalo's best course of action here is to either explore

1058
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 5: free agency or the draft, don't give up multiple assets

1059
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 5: to get one player because I think again, I think

1060
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 5: the depth is just as important as the star power

1061
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 5: for this Buffalo defense.

1062
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Khalil Mack, if he were to come

1063
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: to Buffalo, it would be a reuniting with Buffalo because

1064
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 2: he played at the University at Buffalo just down the road.

1065
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: When you look at free agency and some of these

1066
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: plays and position groups who are going to demand and

1067
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: get some big money, who is on your list?

1068
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 5: Well, I'm looking at guys at the defensive end spot.

1069
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 5: We mentioned Khalil Mack. I'm looking at like Hassan Reddick,

1070
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 5: who has been a really impactful edge rusher for the

1071
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 5: Jets and the Eagles over the last couple of years.

1072
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 5: He is somebody I think is in the range that

1073
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: Buffalo could go out and get if they wanted to

1074
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 5: continue to add to their interior defensive line.

1075
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: Milton Williams is a free agent from the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: Oh so, Digizuwa, I'm not sure Buffalo is going to

1077
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 5: be willing to pay those guys what they're going to

1078
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 5: command in free agency. But look around that ten to

1079
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 5: fifteen million dollars a year range. I think that's where

1080
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 5: Buffalo could go out and get an impact player on

1081
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 5: the open market.

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: What other positions besides you said corner, and we've been

1083
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: talking about the pass rush. Certainly the Bills are focusing

1084
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: on the defensive side, although at the beginning of this

1085
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: year the Buffalo Bills had Josh Allen and a bunch

1086
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: of guys everybody's gonna eat mentality, they digs is gone,

1087
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,479
Speaker 1: and they had Mac Hollins. They had an unproven rookie

1088
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: and Keon Coleman. Khalil Shakir was there. Curtis Samuel was

1089
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: in the full although he was in and out of

1090
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: the lineup. Do you see any offensive spots where you're thinking, man,

1091
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: the Bills could use a guy.

1092
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 5: No, I actually think Buffalo's okay on that side of

1093
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 5: the ball. Their offense wasn't the reason they didn't ultimately

1094
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 5: end up getting to the Super Bowl this year. In fact,

1095
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 5: they hardly had enough targets to go around for guys

1096
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 5: like Keon Coleman. We wanted to see Dalton Kincaid get

1097
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 5: more work as the season went on, and that didn't

1098
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 5: happen unless you are going out and getting a premier

1099
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 5: weapon a T. Higgins, a DeVante Adams, I just don't

1100
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Speaker 5: think adding numbers to this offense necessarily makes sense because

1101
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 5: they've got the numbers, they've got the players. I actually

1102
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 5: think if I were in charge of the Bills, I

1103
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 5: would focus more of my resources on the defensive side

1104
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 5: of the ball and let some of these young kids develop,

1105
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 5: like Kean Coleman, Li King Kaid, like Khalie ol Shakir,

1106
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 5: because we saw them get pretty good production out of

1107
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 5: some of the cheaper free agents they got last year,

1108
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 5: like MATC Collins.

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00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, is there anybody on Buffalo's offense who

1110
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: you think could take a big step next year that

1111
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: maybe we didn't see the production that we wanted from

1112
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: them this season, whether it be a rookie player or

1113
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: player in their second season that you think man year two,

1114
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: year three, they can be a big, big asset on

1115
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo's offense.

1116
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it has to be Dalkin Kaid, right.

1117
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 5: They traded up for Dalkin Kaid. He's going into year

1118
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 5: three now. Year three is historically when tight ends really

1119
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 5: break out in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: It's just can he stay healthy. That's been a problem

1121
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 3: for him dating back to his time at Utah.

1122
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 5: Obviously was an issue this year with his knee, but

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Speaker 5: I think for this passing offense to become even more dynamic,

1124
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 5: if he can be somebody over the middle of the

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00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 5: field that can beat single coverage, they can beat zone coverage.

1126
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Speaker 5: I do think it has a chance. He has a

1127
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 5: chance to help take this Bill's offense to the next level.

1128
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Speaker 5: But you've got to stay healthy. It's really hard to

1129
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 5: build an offense around a player that just doesn't play

1130
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 5: that often. But I'm looking for dal Kin kid here

1131
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 5: in year three to make a big lead.

1132
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: One of the other things you've talked about on the

1133
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: thirty third team is maybe the guys who are going

1134
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: to hit home runs in free agency, not necessarily for

1135
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: the Bills, but guys you know, like Sam Darnold. What's

1136
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: going to happen with him after the great year he

1137
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: had in Minnesota. What are some of the guys maybe

1138
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: that you're thinking are going to change maybe the landscape

1139
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 1: in free agency this year.

1140
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: I think t Higgins is the big one.

1141
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 5: I think the Bengals would be foolish to let him

1142
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 5: hit free agency, but if he does, this is arguably

1143
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 5: the best free agent receiver that we've seen hit the

1144
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 5: market in the last decade plus. I mean, I'm thinking

1145
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 5: the last one we've had was Terrell Owens when he

1146
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 5: joined the Cowboys, but TiO was thirty one thirty two

1147
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 5: at that stage.

1148
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: He was an older receiver.

1149
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 5: We don't see twenty six year old receivers like him

1150
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 5: hit free agency very often, and if he does, you're

1151
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 5: gonna see a lot of teams be interested in adding

1152
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 5: him because he is somebody that projects as a Number

1153
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 5: one receiver, and with so many teams having cap space

1154
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 5: this offseason, I wouldn't be surprised if you see some

1155
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 5: teams that maybe aren't even mentioned regarding t Higgins try

1156
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 5: to go out and sign him. Whether that's the Rams,

1157
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 5: maybe that's the team like the Dolphins that want to

1158
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 5: get some more size in their wide receiver core. I

1159
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 5: think t Higgins is the best free agent we've had

1160
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 5: hit the open market in the last several years, and

1161
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 5: I expect him to be one of the highest paid receivers,

1162
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 5: if not the highest paid receiver in the NFL once

1163
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 5: free agency open.

1164
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: Could you see a new head coach like Mike Vrabel

1165
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: in New England where they've gotten Drake May Maybe those

1166
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: guys are kind of the ones who say You know,

1167
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: Mike Grabel's the guy who had AJ Brown before they

1168
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: traded him to the Philadelphia Eagles, and he was supposedly

1169
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: that created a rift between himself and the GM. Mike

1170
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: Vrabel may know the value of a wide out, seem

1171
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: as how he lost one of the best in the

1172
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: league when he was a head coach before.

1173
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you could make the case that Mike Frabel lost

1174
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 5: his job because of the AJ Brown trade. Once they

1175
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,479
Speaker 5: traded AJ Brown, that offense completely fell back to earth

1176
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 5: and they struggled to win games. I wouldn't be surprised

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01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 5: at all if the Patriots, with a second year quarterback

1178
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 5: and with a ton of cap space, they know maybe

1179
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 5: they think, hey, we know we're overpaying to Higgins five

1180
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 5: to seven million dollars a year, but it just makes

1181
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 5: more sense for us to have him on our roster

1182
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 5: than not. And that's why I think if Higgins hits

1183
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 5: free agency, and again the Bengals should not let him

1184
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 5: even sniff free agency, but if he does, we could

1185
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 5: see him get thirty four thirty five million dollars a year.

1186
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 5: And I think a team like the Patriots are perfect

1187
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 5: example of the market that he's looking at.

1188
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: You also had an article that came out that had

1189
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 2: a free agent fit for every team. For Buffalo, it

1190
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: was a linebacker, Eric Kendricks. Why does he fit on

1191
01:02:58,920 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: Buffalo's roster?

1192
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Eric Hendricks is actually somebody that I know very

1193
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 5: well from his last year in Dallas. The Cowboys signed

1194
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 5: him to a VET minimum deal last offseason and he

1195
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 5: was outstanding and I think even at his advanced age,

1196
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 5: I think he'll be thirty.

1197
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: Two or thirty three this year.

1198
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 5: Eric Kendricks is somebody who was one of the cowboys

1199
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 5: best defenders. He was excellent coverage, was great against the run. Now,

1200
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 5: I don't think he has the sideline to sideline speed

1201
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 5: that he used to have when he played for Minnesota,

1202
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 5: but we saw injuries at the linebacker position hunt Buffalo

1203
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 5: for the last several years. If you could bring in

1204
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 5: Kendricks on a very cheap deal again one two million

1205
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: dollars a year, I think he's the type of linebacker

1206
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 5: that you bring in. He plays nine hundred one thousand

1207
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 5: snaps and all of a sudden, you're just not worried

1208
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 5: about the linebackers anymore. And if Matt Mulano struggles to

1209
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 5: stay on the field, or if Dorian Williams doesn't develop.

1210
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 5: You know, you have a linebacker that has seen it all,

1211
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 5: that stays on the field and can make an impact.

1212
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: Last one for me, I got. You know, super Bowl's over,

1213
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: It's all said and done, and of course it's easy

1214
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: for all of us in this end of the business,

1215
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: the media and to start making sweeping pronouncements about what's

1216
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: going to happen in the future. Is this last Super

1217
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: Bowl loss, as ugly as it was for the Chiefs,

1218
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: has that change the landscape for them? No?

1219
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1220
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 5: I mean, hell, the Chiefs, you still have Patrick Mahomes

1221
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 5: and Andy Reid. You're getting Rashie Rice back from injury.

1222
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 5: Save You're worthy was fantastic as the rookie. As long

1223
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 5: as they have Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, they're going

1224
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 5: to have a chance every year. But what I do

1225
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 5: think this showed is that the Chiefs aren't as invincible

1226
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 5: as everybody.

1227
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 3: Thinks, right.

1228
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 5: I think Buffalo obviously had a great chance of defeating

1229
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 5: them in the AFC Championship Game. They are beatable. And

1230
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 5: if the Bills or the Ravens or some of these

1231
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 5: other teams in the AFC can just put together a

1232
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 5: good offseason. I do think they can surpass Kansas City,

1233
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 5: but make no mistake about it, they're still the team

1234
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 5: to beat in the AFC.

1235
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: That's when Buffalo is fighting for every offseason. How do

1236
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: you put a roster together that at the end of

1237
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: the day when these two face each other, than the playoffs,

1238
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: Buffalo can finally take the Chiefs down. Thought it was

1239
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: going to be this year, but unfortunately it wasn't. Marcus,

1240
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on one Bills

1241
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: Live today.

1242
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 5: We appreciate the time anytime.

1243
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: Thanks Marcus.

1244
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: All right, that was Marcus Moser of the thirty third

1245
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: team and NFL analyst for them. I would assume several

1246
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: people from the thirty third team will be out at

1247
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: the NFL Scouting Combine at the end of February at

1248
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 2: Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, Indiana. Wonderful place to be

1249
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: for the NFL Scouting Combine. We love that it's there

1250
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 2: every single year. So many different people to see, so

1251
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: many great restaurants to stop.

1252
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: We treat yeah, we treat a little bit like it's

1253
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 1: a summer camp.

1254
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 4: You know.

1255
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: We touch base with a lot of friends. Yeah, you

1256
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: see a lot of people around the league that we know,

1257
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: and you get a chance to have some dinners out

1258
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: and it's great, it is It is a lot of

1259
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 1: fun to be there, but you know, it's it's five

1260
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: days on the road too, so there's that you guys.

1261
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: Are going to talk to a bunch of people. I

1262
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: can't wait to hear some of the interviews. And uh,

1263
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: there's all always rumblings that come out of the scouting

1264
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: combine as well, whether it's coaches or gms that are

1265
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: floating things out there, whether they're true or not true,

1266
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: to get the ball rolling a little bit ahead of

1267
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: free agency on some different players.

1268
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you also get an inkling of what other teams

1269
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: are thinking about when you start seeing who they're talking

1270
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: to in the draft and their interview process and what

1271
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: they say to you know, who they spend their time with.

1272
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: You know, that's always interesting and of course it plays

1273
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: your neck deep in agents player agents as well. The

1274
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: free agent market starts to heat up then because it's

1275
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: only a week and a half away after the combine,

1276
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: so you know, you know, gms are dropping or talking

1277
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: about one guy and then the other guy's name pops

1278
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 1: up that the agent also is representing say, oh yeah,

1279
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: how's how's it going with the guy we really want

1280
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: to talk to and we're not allowed to talk to

1281
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: all of that's happening, So it's it's going to be

1282
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: a fun week at the combine. And and you talked

1283
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: to Marcus Moser. You know, all these topics we talk

1284
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: about with him are front and center now and it's

1285
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to see the conversations take place

1286
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: and speculate.

1287
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: Always something to talk about. Our topic today for you

1288
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: to talk about with us. Aside from Sean McDermott, which

1289
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 2: coach will have the biggest impact on the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five Bills, We're going to go to the tweet sheet

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment

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Speaker 2: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. And first from Christopher,

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Speaker 2: he says, Joe Brady, because his offensive prow has gotten

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Speaker 2: has got the Bills knocking at the door to the

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Speaker 2: AFC title Game. I believe that next year we can

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Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl and win it. Joe Brady

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Speaker 2: was a huge part of Buffalo's offense, and I think

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Speaker 2: the way he went about crafting a plan for how

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Speaker 2: the offense was going to operate. No, we didn't see

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Speaker 2: it completely change from previous offensive coordinators in Buffalo, but

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Speaker 2: we did see this everybody eats mantra really come to life.

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Speaker 2: And it's what Joe Brady had to work with. And

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Speaker 2: when you have a season where you don't have as

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Speaker 2: much money to spend because of cap hits, you got

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Speaker 2: to get creative and you got to figure out, how

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Speaker 2: can we make it work. We've got an incredible quarterback

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Speaker 2: in Josh Allen, we got an incredible offensive line. Let's

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Speaker 2: go do this thing. And you saw Brady did a

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Speaker 2: great job with the pieces that he had.

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Speaker 1: It goes under the radar a little bit. The Bills

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Speaker 1: through the regular season and posting. I've been talking about

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Speaker 1: it because I said it at the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 1: They scored more points than anybody in the league. And

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Speaker 1: they didn't have an alpha, right They had James Cook

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Speaker 1: who turned into kind of a lead dog, particularly in

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Speaker 1: the red zone. But excuse me, this offense scored more

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Speaker 1: than anybody in the league. And you got to tip

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Speaker 1: your hat to Joe Brady. They traded Steph the other

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 2: He was so many he was like, how is this

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Speaker 2: gonna work?

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Speaker 1: It was like, who is it gonna be? Now? Certainly

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Speaker 1: we had some thoughts about Khalil Shakir could be very good,

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Speaker 1: and we thought he might be steady, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Kinkaid might take a step forward. Although Kinkaid got hurt,

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox was exactly who we thought he was gonna be.

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Speaker 1: He was there when they needed him, not all that often,

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Speaker 1: but man, oh man, it's hard to think about a

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Speaker 1: bad play. He had this year, big moments. Keyon Coleman

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Speaker 1: had some flashes as a rookie, but was very inconsistent.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it was because of the injury to

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Speaker 1: his wrist. But you know, they they go in that season,

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Speaker 1: it was Josh and James Cook probably and in the

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Speaker 1: offensive line we'll see, you know, And certainly they were

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Speaker 1: forty Brownie said this yesterday, forty nine percent to fifty

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Speaker 1: one percent run to pass the pass.

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Speaker 2: That's balance you can be in today's hand.

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Speaker 1: They still scored a ton. They didn't throw it all

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Speaker 1: over the yard, but they scored a ton of points.

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady, if just think if if he does take

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Speaker 1: if they do take a step forward, what's that going

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Speaker 1: to look like? I mean, that's that's pretty fun to

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Speaker 1: think about.

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Speaker 2: I think it's also fair to say, at this point,

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Speaker 2: with what we know about the roster, we could see

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Speaker 2: that everybody eats Mantra comeback for for a second year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I'm sure they will unless they sign a

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Speaker 1: guy like t Higgins. You know, some off the wall thing,

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Speaker 1: which do you think they would trade for Jake? You know?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they would do that?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: Based on what we know from what happened this season?

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Speaker 2: I think you proved I don't know, I don't. You

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Speaker 2: don't necessarily need that?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Do they? Do? You need to do they feel like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna spend that money there? You're gonna spend

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Speaker 2: that money on defense?

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Speaker 1: Great? Good? Better players make you better?

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Speaker 2: True?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and so yes, you would think a guy like Tigg.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna trade t Higgins for what mccollins? Okay, right,

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Speaker 1: so there's that because mc collins isn't either. So if

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Speaker 1: they trade that out, I could see that, But that's

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Speaker 1: not you know, T Higgins is off the table probably

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Speaker 1: for the Bills. But you know, DK metcalf, he's out.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe somebody's been talking about doing that. If

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Speaker 1: they get a guy like that in there, certainly he's

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Speaker 1: gonna help, but will he helped so much that he

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Speaker 1: becomes baggage, Like you got to throw him the ball

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Speaker 1: now even when he's covered he is. It gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of those kind of things. We've been down that

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Speaker 1: road with Steph Diggs. I don't know if if the

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Speaker 1: Bills started a trend or is it or did they

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Speaker 1: just do it because it was the last you know,

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Speaker 1: the last option was just to use everybody. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think before you trade for a guy like Tree,

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Speaker 1: do everything you got to pay Ta Higgins. You gotta

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Speaker 1: do all the stuff and invest everything you'd have to

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Speaker 1: invest and get a guy like that. Wouldn't you rather

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Speaker 1: spend it on the other side of the ball and

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Speaker 1: get improved a bunch of different I think that's where

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Speaker 1: I'd go. So, yeah, I'm you're right. The tweets right,

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady deserves a lot of credit. You have got

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Speaker 1: guys like that, lean into it, let him carry more weight,

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Speaker 1: and use some of your assets to buy help on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, where you know. I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of in that camp today. Man. It may not

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Speaker 1: be here tomorrow, but today that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: No, offensive coordinator. Joe Brady is a worker. He works

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Speaker 2: so hard, spends so much time in this building, and

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Speaker 2: you think, with a year under his belt as offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: think about the possibilities in year two, looking back on

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Speaker 2: all the great things from year one and adding on

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Speaker 2: to that and tweaking the things that didn't work out

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Speaker 2: how you wanted it to work out. Remember that, I

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Speaker 2: think they can grow.

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Speaker 1: He took over halfway through twenty three and we thought, okay,

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Speaker 1: soon he had a full off season, and then they

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Speaker 1: trade Steph Diggs and you know, they so now he's

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Speaker 1: got these guys that are he thinks he likes them,

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Speaker 1: but it hopes they can play. Keon Coleman was a question.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if he was going to be really

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Speaker 1: good or how, you know, I didn't know how it

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Speaker 1: was going to go. Now they go through this last season,

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Speaker 1: they score all these points, unbelievable amount of points, and

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Speaker 1: now you're coming back and saying, okay, and right now

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Speaker 1: once again mc collins isn't signed. You know, Samuel's here,

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Speaker 1: Keon's here, Kincaid's here, Shakir's here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's looking pretty pretty similar to last year.

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Speaker 1: Looking a little bit like Mary Cooper.

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Speaker 2: And mccollins are your free agent wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: It's it's some question marks again. And now you've got

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Speaker 1: your running your number one running back who scored eighteen

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Speaker 1: touchdowns rushing touchdowns. Now he's sitting there going give me

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Speaker 1: a new deal or else sort of posture it. Yeah, Joe,

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady, he deserves to have his to have his

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Speaker 1: be given his flowers for what he did last year.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't look like it's gonna be any easier.

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Speaker 2: No, but you have you have a year of work

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Speaker 2: to go off of, and I think that maybe that

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Speaker 2: makes maybe what what some areas could be harder, a

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Speaker 2: little bit easier.

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Speaker 1: If McDermott treats his coaches like he does his players

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Speaker 1: and gets the most out of him. You know, Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady and Bob Babbitt, you're over there grinding and saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: where could I have gotten better? And they're gonna work

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully you get more from your players too. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: Kean Coleman comes out and has a great year two,

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Speaker 2: and don't get Kaid really shows up in year three

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Speaker 2: and and proves.

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Speaker 1: At this point though we don't know what it's gonna

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Speaker 1: look like, what the roster's gonna look like.

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Speaker 2: We'll see soon enough, in a few weeks. It'll it'll

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Speaker 2: start to come together once free agency begins on March twelfth,

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Speaker 2: about a month away from now. We're going to take

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Speaker 2: a break, but when you return. More from the tweet

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Speaker 2: sheet coming up next. You can also give us a

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Speaker 2: call at eight oh three, five point fifty where One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Clyde Health on Flow Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? We're back here on One Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: discussing today's topic. Aside from Sean mcderbritt, which coach will

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Speaker 2: have the biggest impact on the twenty twenty five Bills,

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Speaker 2: we go back to the tweet sheet, This one from

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Speaker 2: Jack Bobby Babbitch. He says, hopefully he takes a big

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Speaker 2: step in your two and with a few new pieces,

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Speaker 2: can get the defense back to a top ten unit.

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Speaker 2: Need to do a better job getting teams off the field.

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Speaker 2: Turnovers are great, but forcing punts is huge. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: wishful thinking but needed. I think Bobby Babbage could have

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Speaker 2: a big role on what this team does this upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: When you look back on the season at large, hopefully

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Speaker 2: the defense continues to improve. You've got a first year

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator and Bobby Babite it's calling the plays. I

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Speaker 2: think he did a great job with the group that

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Speaker 2: he had, and you build on it in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if they can take

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Speaker 1: a step forward or maybe when when training camp starts

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Speaker 1: and he starts to take shape and starts to see

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Speaker 1: what he's got to get just the evolution of it.

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Speaker 1: How much of the defensive you know short come, let's

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Speaker 1: face it was the shortcomings were on the defensive side.

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Speaker 1: Were they him? Were they the players or both? Where

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Speaker 1: How could he have Matt because I'm he's got a

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Speaker 1: head coach that was a top notch defensive coordinator as well,

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Speaker 1: who also had his head in the room when they

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Speaker 1: were putting this all together. Certainly, they got this team

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Speaker 1: as far as a lot farther than anybody thought they

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Speaker 1: could at the beginning of the season. Certainly, it's always

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Speaker 1: disappointed when you get that far and not close the deal.

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Speaker 1: But man, oh man, you talk about exceeding expectations. They

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Speaker 1: did it, and he did it with without a dominating defense.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if they can put together

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Speaker 1: a defensive roster that's a little different than this one,

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Speaker 1: maybe with a little more high end at either corner

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Speaker 1: or defensive end or defensive whatever. Let's see if that

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Speaker 1: makes a bigger difference than maybe just the one or

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Speaker 1: two players might indicate if he can get something out

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Speaker 1: of him and he can you know, maximize it.

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Speaker 2: We heard Sean McDermott and Bobby Babbage say quite a

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Speaker 2: bit this season was needing the Russian coverage to work

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Speaker 2: more together than they had during the season. If you

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Speaker 2: look at the stats, Buffalo's defense was just outside of

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Speaker 2: the top ten, allowing twenty one point six points per game.

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Speaker 2: They tied for eighteenth with thirty nine sacks. And I

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Speaker 2: know defensive coinaters and coaches say, it's not always about

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Speaker 2: getting the quarterback on the ground. It's about affecting the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what Buffalo does this offseason to try

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Speaker 2: to add to their defensive line or their second secondary.

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Speaker 2: Because when you have good pieces at both positions and

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Speaker 2: you get a group that's working together, that's that's when

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Speaker 2: you have what happened to the Chiefs with the Eagles

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Speaker 2: and what they had on defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if Certainly, consistent pressure in the pocket is a

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Speaker 1: huge indicator of how good your defense is going to be.

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Speaker 1: In past defense, the Bills were up and down in

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Speaker 1: that they were really good against bad offensive lines. They

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Speaker 1: struggled against really good offensive lines, and that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's they got to overcome that, and certainly blitzing is

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01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: one way to do that, but that leaves you vulnerable

1502
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: at the in the back of your defense. So I'm

1503
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm totally interested in in what changes they make to

1504
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: their personnel on the defensive side, because I think that'll

1505
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: tell us what they think, right, I mean, that'll tell

1506
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: us what they think. Certainly that we're all caught up

1507
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: in what the Philadelphia Eagles did to the Chiefs in

1508
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl because we've never able to do that, right,

1509
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: We're like, Wow, we had that moment in the regular

1510
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: season when Vaughn in his first year forced the interception

1511
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: on Mahomes and we thought, here we go. Right, So

1512
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: we've been there for a minute. But I think when

1513
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: you if you see this team swing big for an

1514
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: edge rusher or two, or draft heavy or both all

1515
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 1: of that, it'll tell you what they think their problems

1516
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: have been. If they go out and the first guy

1517
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: picked in the draft is another corner like they did

1518
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: with Kayir. That'll tell you where they think their problems are.

1519
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: And in free agency, if they come out and they

1520
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: get a guy, you know, if they sign a guy

1521
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: a high caliber at corner, that'll tell you where their

1522
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 1: priorities are. So I'm that's the interesting part. They can

1523
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 1: say all they want to, but when they start signing

1524
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: guys that at those spots, that tells us what they see.

1525
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: And they know more than we do because they, you know,

1526
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: they put the plan together. They know where guys were

1527
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: supposed to be and they weren't. So we're tak talking

1528
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 1: a lot here and it's all fun. I love doing it,

1529
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: but I want to see when when they're when they're

1530
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: doing it to try and fix it, where do they start?

1531
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,919
Speaker 1: Who's the first guy they signed? When this in March twelfth?

1532
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I what I want to see, right, Yeah,

1533
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: because we we think we know, but when they you know,

1534
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 1: when all of a sudden, when Miles Garrett strolls up

1535
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: to one Bill's drivers like, oh my gosh, there we go, right,

1536
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: or when you know Trey Hendrickson or you know Max

1537
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: Crosby or Khalil Mackill, you name it, or if it's

1538
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: like a guy like you know, a guy who is

1539
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: like Steph Gilmour one of these other corner you know,

1540
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: a guy like that caliber. I'm Steph Gilmore's little as

1541
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: a bad example, but you know what I mean, a

1542
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: top notch corner strolls up to one Bill's line of thing. Okay,

1543
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: there's where they think it is, right, So that's that's

1544
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: what I want to you know, I want to see

1545
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: because we we think we know, but man, oh man,

1546
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: they they make the decision to put their money where

1547
01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: their mouth is right. So I'm like, there's a charge.

1548
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: Tavarius Ward, Carlton Davis, DJ Reid, all these corners are

1549
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: out there. What are we gonna do if one of

1550
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: those guys strolls up like ah right, yeah.

1551
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 3: So.

1552
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: We can talk all we want, but man, when those

1553
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: guys start making moves is when they tell us for

1554
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: real what they thought.

1555
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 2: So we're talking about what the Bills are going to

1556
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 2: do this offseason and it's a secret sauce to us.

1557
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 2: We don't know the ingredients yet, but when March twelve hits,

1558
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: when free agency begins, we're gonna start to figure out

1559
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: the ingredients to this twenty twenty five roster. A little

1560
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 2: taste here, a little taste there. Ooh, that's good. I

1561
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: want that.

1562
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: We have Marcus Moser from the thirty third team on.

1563
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: He thinks he said they're gonna get a corner. They

1564
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: need a corner, really because when and he's right, when

1565
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: Christian Benford went down in the AFC Championship game, things changed,

1566
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: you know. They they started attacking Kye and they went

1567
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: after him and they you know, they won the game.

1568
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: So he says, let's you know, well, that's fine. A

1569
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: guy thirty third thinks that I don't know what Brandon

1570
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: and Sean are thinking because if they come up here

1571
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 1: and there's I'm looking at the cornerback list. Who are

1572
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: all free agents? Yeah, Carlton Davis, Shavarius War, dj Reed,

1573
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, Byron Murphy, Jeff Okuda, Rasul Douglas is one

1574
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: of those names. Right. All these guys are out there

1575
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: and they're all they're all looking to make their market

1576
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: This is market value. What they're you know, their production.

1577
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis is looking at fourteen and a half million

1578
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: bucks a year at Corner that's a big number and that,

1579
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: but that's what the market thinks he should be worth.

1580
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do if he strolls up to

1581
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: one Bill's drive, Hey guys, Carlton Davis, nice to see

1582
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: how you doing? Like, oh my god, right, so right

1583
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: now all we can do is talk about it.

1584
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, knock on Brandon Bean's office door. Excuse me? Can

1585
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 2: you tell us your off season?

1586
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: That is exactly man they when they start having to

1587
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: sign contracts is when you finally find out what they

1588
01:22:59,160 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: really think about.

1589
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 2: Their Yeah, and that group is there are they're hard

1590
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: at work. This scout yea the area of scouts who

1591
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: live in different places during the season, who travel during

1592
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: the season to go to colleges. They have been in

1593
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 2: the building already this off season, preparing for the scouting combine.

1594
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: And you think the Bills play deep into the playoffs

1595
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: almost every year, you can every year. Every year they're

1596
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: playing multiple games in the playoffs. And it's a good thing.

1597
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: But then they're feeling like, hey, we're behind a little

1598
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 2: bit because we were in the season. We were in

1599
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: season a lot longer than some of these other teams

1600
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: whose seasons ended in the beginning of January.

1601
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: We started the show, you know, mentioning a Terrence Gray,

1602
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: who's the director of player Personnel here in Buffalo. He has,

1603
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: you know, got an interview as the GM for the

1604
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: Jacksonville so but and made me think you see him

1605
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: up here running around because he probably did the I

1606
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: don't know if he did the view, the interview in

1607
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: Jacksonville where it was local. But up, we're up and

1608
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: getting lunch today. The place is full of scout in town.

1609
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 1: The whole organization, every scout from around the country is

1610
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: in talking about putting the draft board together. Here's what

1611
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: I think. Here's my guy, here's I've been I got

1612
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: this guy at you and LV I got a guy

1613
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: about that that I thought. All these guys are in

1614
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: and they're you said, they're working hard at they are.

1615
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: They are grinding.

1616
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: The whole work is coming in.

1617
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: They are grinding today in this building about what their

1618
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: draft board is going to look like. That's kind of

1619
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: what you want to see.

1620
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 2: And they get to pitch these guys. So they're watching

1621
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: these these college players throughout the season, and you have

1622
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 2: different areas that you're assigned to, so you're scouting these

1623
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: different players and when you come together, you get to

1624
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 2: do your sales pitch.

1625
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: It is. It is like that, and then when the

1626
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: scout comes in, they're going okay. He goes, all right,

1627
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: I got these guys and they go, well, here's what

1628
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: I just want to know, Like, for instance, I don't know,

1629
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:54,799
Speaker 1: I have no idea. We're talking. Yeah, they go. Brandon says, yeah, yeah, okay.

1630
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: All I want is the corners. What corners do you

1631
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: show me? That's what I want to know, right, He goes,

1632
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: I don't want to care about it. I don't care

1633
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: about the corner Who are the edge guys? Yeah right?

1634
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: Or who are the who are the big boy? Who

1635
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: are the who are the defensive tackles You've got? Is

1636
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: there anybody out there that I need to know about?

1637
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: That's I want to know what positions? Brandon Bean is

1638
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: asking the scouts about, who have you found at this spot?

1639
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 1: Tell you know what I mean, tell me sell me

1640
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 1: on that guy. And then this guy we're here's going

1641
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 1: to sell me on his guy. That's what we're all

1642
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: waiting to see. And the only way we're going to

1643
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: find out is when they pick him or sign him

1644
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: in free agency.

1645
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.

1646
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: This is because we think we know, but do we?

1647
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: But do we? All Right, it's gonna be fun.

1648
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 2: It's going to be a lot of fun, a lot

1649
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: of fun. We're going to take a break, but when

1650
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: we return, we haven't started our mock draft watches yet.

1651
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: But I've already been tracking mock drafts, So I want

1652
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: to tell you.

1653
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: Let's go, who's.

1654
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 2: Been the most mocked player to the Bills already. I've

1655
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 2: tracked about twenty. We might as well talk about it.

1656
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 2: Coming up next on One Bills Live. We're presented by

1657
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: Claude Help on Buffalo Bills Radio. BOK Back to One

1658
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 2: Bills Live. I told you guys that I might as

1659
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: well tell you who was getting mocked to the Bills already.

1660
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 2: We're not ready to do a true mock draft watch yet.

1661
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 2: We will do that after the Scouting Combine, once we

1662
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 2: kind of really flip the page to the scouting combine

1663
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: and start focusing on all these prospects. But I've tracked

1664
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 2: about twenty mock drafts so far. It's not a shock

1665
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: that the most mocked position is defensive line, and there

1666
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: is one that stands out here. We go amongst the rest,

1667
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: defensive tackle Kenneth Grant out of Michigan has been mocked

1668
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: to Buffalo five times out of the seventeen mock drafts

1669
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 2: that I've tracked so far. He is the favorite name

1670
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 2: so far. He's big, he's strong, he's your interior huge guy.

1671
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 2: But he's got big feet.

1672
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Six three three thirty plus between three thirty five and

1673
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 1: three forty six three and played at Michigan. Seems to

1674
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: be pretty good athlete. I saw. I watched him a

1675
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: little bit today. I watched a little bit of his highlights.

1676
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: The game I saw he was against UNLV.

1677
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 2: Oh, so you're gonna look great.

1678
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: Right, he's playing against I'm exaggerating nothing against UNLV at all.

1679
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: Love this love the school. I hope they're very successful.

1680
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: A love. I'm saying, he's playing against a different, different

1681
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: playing against dental students. You know you better, you better

1682
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: dominate against UNLV, That's all I'm saying. I want to

1683
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: see him against I want to see what he did

1684
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: against Ohio State and all these other guys. I want

1685
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: to see what he looks like if he went to

1686
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I don't know if he did or not,

1687
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: but so I'm that's my problem with the young guys.

1688
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: That we watch and when they put these highlight tapes together.

1689
01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you look, where are you playing against?

1690
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: You're a defensive tackle and you're playing against a two

1691
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pound offensive guard at a Division III

1692
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: school or something, you know that kind of thing. But

1693
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 1: he looked good, I'll say it. He looked athletic, looked

1694
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: like he had some explosion, looked like he could come

1695
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: around the corner. So yeah, So Kenneth Grant from Michigan

1696
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: sixty three, three thirty nine. He's a junior, so he's

1697
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: coming out early from Indiana. So we'll see. You know,

1698
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I had three sacks last year, So we'll.

1699
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 2: See if he continues to be mocked to Buffalo quite

1700
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: a bit after free agency begins, because that's when we

1701
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 2: see things starting to shake up a bit.

1702
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: We saw it last year. The as we get we

1703
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 1: start as Bills fans, we start to get very familiar

1704
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: with a handful of guys at about two or three

1705
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: different positions. Yeah, he's a handful of guys. Like last year,

1706
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: we knew all the top receivers, right, we knew all

1707
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: those guys a.

1708
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 2: Couple of years ago. As Jack Campbell's.

1709
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Right, everything we're gonna get very familiar with defensive.

1710
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: Tackles and excited about a few different players. And rightfully, so,

1711
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 2: this is our off season. We need something to look

1712
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: forward to.

1713
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're gonna continue to dive into that. I

1714
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 1: keep forgetting it. I did this slash. It's always a

1715
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise when you think, yeah, I'm gonna start watching

1716
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 1: mock drafts again, I'm like, oh, I always love it

1717
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: because I love what other people see in the team.

1718
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because fresh eyes make a difference.

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01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 2: All Right, I agree, Steve, Thanks for joining me today.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow we've got Chris Trepasso joining the show and Mike

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01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 2: Janniti as well. We're going to talk about the cap

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01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 2: and everything else. Join us tomorrow.