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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to My Favorite Murder.

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Speaker 2: After six years, we are back out on the road

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Speaker 2: and because of that, we're putting some quilt episodes together

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 1: And so this episode features two of our favorite stories

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Speaker 1: from the state of Washington, just in time for our

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Speaker 1: Seattle tour stop.

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Speaker 2: First, Georgia is going to tell the story of Stella

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Speaker 2: Nicol and the Seattle Cyanide poisonings.

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Speaker 1: And then Karen will cover Colton Harris Moore, better known

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Speaker 1: as the Barefoot Bandit.

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Speaker 2: And just so you guys know, we'll be in Seattle

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Speaker 2: on October twenty first and twenty second. A few tickets

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Speaker 2: are still available, so go to my Favorite Murder dot

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Speaker 1: And until then, please enjoy this Washington Quilt episode.

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Speaker 3: Goodbye.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, speaking of Seattle, Oh, I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: tell you too much about this because I want you

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Speaker 4: to kind of guess some shit. But this is basically

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Speaker 4: the Seattle Cyanide poisonings.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: My first guess was going to be Bigfoot, but I

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Speaker 2: guess that now that I hear the word cyanide, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to take I'm going to retract it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, it's not Bigfoot. Okay, okay. June eleventh, nineteen

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Speaker 4: eighty six, right after my sixth birthday in Auburn, Washington.

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Speaker 3: Right after my sixteenth birthday, they we had a surprise party.

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Speaker 3: It was fun, cute.

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Speaker 4: So Auburn, Washington. It's a summer about twenty five miles

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Speaker 4: outside of Seattle. Forty year old Susan Snow. She's a

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Speaker 4: mother of two teenage girls. She works as a bank manager.

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Speaker 4: She woke up at six am and started her normal

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Speaker 4: morning routine. She kissed her husband, Paul, who was a

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Speaker 4: long haul trucker, goodbye as he left for work, and

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Speaker 4: wished her fifteen year old daughter halea good morning. Goes

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Speaker 4: into her bathroom, plugs in her curling iron, starts to

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Speaker 4: get ready for work. But another one of her normal

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Speaker 4: things routines in the morning, which she did all the

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Speaker 4: time because she suffered from really painful headaches, she took

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Speaker 3: Capsules from the bottle in her kitchen. Oh shit, that's right.

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Speaker 4: About forty minutes after she went into her bathroom to

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Speaker 4: see it was taking her mom so long, no I know,

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Speaker 4: and found Sue collapse on the floor of the bathroom.

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Speaker 4: Sue was unresponsive but had a faint pulse, and when

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Speaker 4: Haley called nine one one, she told them that it

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Speaker 4: seemed like her mother was asleep but with her eyes open.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I know.

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Speaker 4: That's so awful, that's so sad. Gasping for breath and

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Speaker 4: her pulse fading. Sue's phone by helicopter to the hospital

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Speaker 4: where doctors work to determine what is even wrong with her.

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Speaker 4: They don't know how to help her because they can't

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Speaker 4: forget what's wrong. Maybe she slipped while getting ready and

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Speaker 4: hit her head, but she didn't have any bruises. Had

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Speaker 4: she been electrocated by the curling iron?

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Speaker 1: Know?

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Speaker 4: And nothing seemed to add up, And so doctors were baffled,

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Speaker 4: and just a few hours later, Sue Snow had died.

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Speaker 2: Shit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, during the autopsy on Sue Snow, this chick assistant,

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Speaker 4: she's the assistant medical examiner, Janet Miller. She's like, yo,

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Speaker 4: I fucking smell a very faint scent of bitter almonds. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: which I am I know from an experience, means cyanide.

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Speaker 2: Now you were pointing out yourself, Georgia, but you were

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Speaker 2: playing the part Janet is like Yore in the role

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Speaker 2: of Janet. Yes, Janet knows from experience that, like that's

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Speaker 2: the scent that bitter alments.

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Speaker 4: Historically, Like the book that was written about this is

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Speaker 3: Is it really yeah? Because also it's kind of a

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Speaker 3: play on word, as you'll see soon.

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Speaker 4: The main medical examiner person was like, shut up, you assistant,

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Speaker 3: That sort of thing. So she was like, blew her off.

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Speaker 4: She was gonna just put down that she died of

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Speaker 4: Janet's like, yo, motherfuckers, you should probably listen to me,

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Speaker 3: Is not listening to me. You should listen to me.

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Speaker 4: Awesome, amazing, and her fucking politeness and saying and not

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Speaker 4: cyanide poisoning. And then I wrote and Janet Janet was

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Speaker 4: like ooh yeah, bitches and toasted her bad assness with

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Speaker 4: her friends that night. Probably don't you think they all

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Speaker 3: Told this bitch it was. It was fucking scianide. Also

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Speaker 3: why resist Yeah, if you're looking into someone's.

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Speaker 4: Death, a forty year old woman dies unexpectedly, there's no explanation,

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Speaker 4: and someone smells the faintest bit of fucking bitter almonds.

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Speaker 3: And also just like it's that thing.

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Speaker 2: How many years of corners being like, I guess it's

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Speaker 4: It right, or if one person smells almonds. And the

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Speaker 4: thing about cyanide too, is that the ability to smell

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Speaker 4: it is genetic, and twenty to forty percent of the

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Speaker 4: you shouldn't be allowed to be the corner, that's right,

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know. These are the things we're going

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Speaker 3: to get solved in the next midterm election. That's right.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a ballot measure and it's going to

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Speaker 3: be great. Smell that smell that cyanide. Hey, does the

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Speaker 3: smell like cyanide to you? Then get the fuck out

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So investigators go and examine the contents at of

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Speaker 4: that both Snow and her husband Paul had used the

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Speaker 4: morning of Snow's death. Three capsules out of those that

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Speaker 4: remain in the sixty capsule bottle were found to be

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Speaker 4: laced with cyanide in toxic quantities. So the husband fucking

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Speaker 4: suspicious And so this murder by cyanide is a fucking

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Speaker 4: huge sensational news. Of course, across the nation and everyone

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Speaker 4: in episode forty three, where yes, I look that up.

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Speaker 4: That's one of my still one of my favorites. I

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to get into it because you no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: But he's one of my favorites. Like that, you're referencing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't want to talk to so much about it.

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Speaker 4: But it is still like I love that case so much.

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Speaker 4: I still fucking think that Ted Kaczynski did it. I

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Speaker 2: It's it's such a fascinating story. It's really it's a

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Speaker 4: And then so of course the cho Chicago tiland onl

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Speaker 4: when thailand al capsules had been laced with cyanide and

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Speaker 4: put back on store shelves, and those murders, four years

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Speaker 2: I remember all of this, This is this was all

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Speaker 2: my teen years. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember this story? I do because because it

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Speaker 2: Right, it's the it's because it was before the silver

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Speaker 3: Of everything, right there used to You used to just.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't even child proofing back then, no, there.

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Speaker 4: Right, it's good that anyone with a gloustick who can

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Speaker 2: Any weirdo they hire at the weirdo grocery store down

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Speaker 2: It's the thing you don't know, You don't realize it

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Speaker 4: Right, So this happens, and of course suspicion immediately falls

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Speaker 4: on Sue's husband, Paul, especially when he started wearing Hawaiian

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Speaker 4: it's Paul and he was Sue was his fourth wife. Oh,

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Speaker 4: the two daughters weren't from her previous marriages. They'd only

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Speaker 4: been married about seven months before Susan's death, and Susan

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Speaker 2: Get married, don't I know, Just don't I know, just

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Speaker 4: But them they do well, they do okay, So everyone

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Speaker 4: was like, it's totally him, right, it's Hawaiian shirt, Joe,

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Speaker 4: Hawaiian shirt, dude, Yeah, okay. But then everything gets crazy

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Speaker 4: and mixed up when another tainted bottle from the same lot,

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Speaker 4: in near by Kent, Washington. Fuck the manufacturers of Exceedron

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Speaker 4: Bristol Myers lost their shit, recalled all extra strength Exceedron

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Speaker 4: products in the Seattle, Washington area, and a group of

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Speaker 4: drug companies came together to offer a three hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool, right, the last cool thing any drug

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Speaker 2: company ever did. That's right before they started trying to

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Speaker 2: murder all of us.

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Speaker 4: I have proof of something shitty they did in just

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Speaker 3: That's when.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So then this money comes forth, and like we

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Speaker 4: need help finding this, and then this woman, bless her heart,

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Speaker 4: comes forward. Oh, this woman's name is Stella Nicol. She

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Speaker 4: tells authorities that on June fifth, So it's about a

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Speaker 4: week before Susan had died. About a week before her husband.

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Speaker 4: Sella's husband, Bruce, had come home with a headache from work,

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Speaker 4: took and a bunch of took him to take in

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Speaker 3: Oh god.

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Speaker 4: He was hanging by a helicopter to a Seattle hospital

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Speaker 4: and he died as well. But the doctor said that

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Speaker 4: the cause was emphysema at the time. And Stella said,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't make any fucking sense. He didn't have egzema.

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Speaker 4: Right, So she was like, fuck this shit, you need

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Speaker 4: oh called who killed Susan snow Right? This chick Stella,

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Speaker 4: It's like they basically wanted her to be Peggy Bundy,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Yeah, and it looks exactly

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Speaker 3: She was just like a forty something year old.

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Speaker 4: She just like to go to the fucking local watering holes,

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Speaker 3: And live and finally live her life. Live like a fish,

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Speaker 4: Bruce was Stella's second husband in their life together in

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Speaker 4: But unfortunately the plug got pulled on this film, this

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Speaker 2: So because that's who actually controls entertainment, that's right, Big Pharma.

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Speaker 3: So that means I don't know who was going to

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Speaker 4: So when Stella who was like, you need to keep looking.

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Speaker 4: He didn't die of on physema. When she heard about

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Speaker 4: and checked her lot number on her Etceterron It was

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Speaker 3: So it's like a million dollar loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think i've because if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 1: Not me.

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Speaker 4: So on June twenty fourth, just a couple of weeks

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Speaker 4: after Sue's death, a cyanide contaminated a bottle of extra

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Speaker 4: I tell us Karen.

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Speaker 3: Anison wasn't that one that was like like marketed toward

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Speaker 3: dones remember dones backpills? No, doanes were like strictly backpills.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So a bottle of those were found at the

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Speaker 4: those were contaminated as well. So on June twenty seventh,

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Speaker 4: Washington State put into effect a ninety day ban on

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Speaker 3: I think a capsule capsules. Yeah, so I think that

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Speaker 3: it's the kind that you can tamper. It makes that

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Speaker 3: MULD make much more sense. Sure, but who knows.

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Speaker 4: So investigators then at that point they started to get

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Speaker 4: bitious of someone specific who are from Stella, because she

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Speaker 4: turned over two bottles of exceterrin that she had bought

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Speaker 4: so and they had both ended up being contaminated with cyanide.

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Speaker 4: So a total of five bottles had been found to

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Speaker 4: weird coincidence. Then, Okay, examinations of the contaminated bottles by

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Speaker 4: fuck is this? This is really weird.

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Speaker 3: No algae destroyer uh oh from a fish tank, from

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Speaker 4: Hey, okay, who has a fucking home fish tank?

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Speaker 3: Cobby, our girl, Stella Sella, Stella the Mermaid, Stella, the Mermaid.

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Speaker 4: Stella has a fucking home fish tank, habit girl.

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Speaker 2: So wait, they were breaking down like every chemical compound

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Speaker 4: They probably would have never fucking found her if this

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Speaker 4: whatever the fuck, crunched that shit in her fucking that

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Speaker 4: was her algae cruncher, and she never cleaned it out,

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Speaker 4: crunched that fucking cyanide off and the same thing, and

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Speaker 4: so it's just cross contamination, girls, not even on purpose.

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Speaker 3: She did it to herself. She did it to her

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Speaker 3: fucking like so simple.

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Speaker 4: So guess what else our good friend life insurance policy,

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Speaker 4: oh comes into play?

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Speaker 3: Sure it does. That always does, it always does.

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Speaker 4: It's not just for fun, no, So Stella had taken

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Speaker 4: insurance coverage on her husband, which in today that's nineteen

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Speaker 3: That's easily eight hundred and fifty two thousand dollars. That's

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Speaker 3: right to the fucking penny to the penny. However, if

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Speaker 3: his death was accidental, she got an additional one hundred

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Speaker 2: Every time we tell stories like this, and it's basically

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Speaker 4: Is discussed I'm done with this life. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: I'm going to cash in on a human being. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but then she kills someone's mom also, right, Okay, So

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. Okay, So that's why I remember she

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Speaker 2: was fighting with emphysema. Doctor, Oh, it's not in panzema.

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Speaker 2: I know it's not a panzema. It's because she needed

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Speaker 2: him to say it was a fucking.

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Speaker 3: Accidental debt, right, so she could.

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Speaker 4: Get that extra seventy six thousand dollars or eight hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty six million in today's money was not enough

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Speaker 4: for her. She needed an extra hundred thousand. So then

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Speaker 3: She needed more algae destroyers.

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Speaker 2: She she loved those fish. She had these huge angel fish.

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Speaker 3: But they lived in a trailer too. Yeah, but sometimes

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Speaker 3: you just eat. That's she funneled all the money into

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Speaker 3: that fish tank so that they were like, we don't

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Speaker 4: Or what about that TV show where they make fish

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Speaker 3: Is it? I think it's called Tank. I'm getting a

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Speaker 3: nod from Stevens. Yes, Stephen, do you watch Tank? Stephen's

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Speaker 4: just happens to be Oniere, Like what the fuck? They

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Speaker 3: That's probably the most excited I get. That's got to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you shoot that once and then you have

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Speaker 3: And also because of the fucking peta. You can't kill

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Speaker 3: you know that, Karen? Did you guys do that in baskets? Yep,

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Speaker 3: on baskets we like to kill fake fish all the time.

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Speaker 3: It's like a thing. Okay, So Tang it's called tanks. Oh,

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Speaker 3: look at they tank toasts there. They love fish. That's

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Speaker 3: a Spanish show? No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's on Animal Planet. Yeah, please watch Tanked, everybody

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Speaker 4: So Stella takes a polygraph test in November of nineteen

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Speaker 4: There's no video evidence of her putting the bottles back

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Speaker 4: And it's possible that this case would have even gone

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Speaker 3: Oh shit, yeah girl, Okay.

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Speaker 4: So twenty seven year old Cynthia Hamilton, who would have

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Speaker 4: been played by a fucking hard lifed Molly Ringwald. Oh shit, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: but in a good way, but like pretty, but like

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Speaker 3: Everyone chain smokes. Yeah, it's like is it northern or

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And they and she was in and out of

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Speaker 4: her mother's life free years. When Cindy, the daughter, was

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Speaker 5: Oh shit.

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Speaker 4: And Stella had been charged in order to go to

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Speaker 4: thing up because she was jealous of her.

437
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: The nine year old girl was jealous of her.

438
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, so she basically Cindy, that's the daughter's Yeah,

439
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: Cindy has a total sociopath of a mother.

440
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Cindy. Cindy's got Cindy from.

441
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: An early age is like, oh shit, my mom is

442
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: capital a crazy right, But.

443
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 3: Cindy has a conscious, constant chance.

444
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 5: That's right.

445
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 3: Where are we? Number two?

446
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 4: Cindy has a conscience yes, and is like this, this

447
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 4: isn't right. I need to talk to the fucking authorities

448
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 4: about this. And even though it was her stepdad. So

449
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 4: in January of nineteen eighty seven, Cynthia Cindy approaches the

450
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 4: police with information. She said that her mother had spoken

451
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 4: to her many times about wanting her husband dead. Cindy's stepdad, Stella,

452
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: had told Cindy that after that, ever since Bruce had

453
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 4: quit drinking, he was a bore.

454
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: Now listen, as someone who's quit drinking, I know that

455
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: that's a fact. Things get way less dramatic when you're

456
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: not shitfaced every ding.

457
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 3: She said.

458
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 4: He prefer to stay home and watch television, which I'm like,

459
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 4: I drink and that sounds great to me.

460
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: It's the best when you're sober and drink. You know

461
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: how fucking hard it is to go out into the

462
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 3: world sober and just like just get that white hot

463
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: light of reality shown on you everywhere you go. No,

464
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: I don't try it.

465
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: Oh you gotta try it. It's hilarious, but it's much

466
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: easier to stay home.

467
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, So they had stuff going into bars together, so

468
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: she was like, this guy's a boor.

469
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm Peggy Bundy.

470
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: Also bars when you're sober, like about thirty five minutes,

471
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,239
Speaker 2: you can have fun, but you have to know when

472
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: to go home because people start repeating themselves and it

473
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: is a disaster area.

474
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 3: I gotta I support you one hundred percent.

475
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 5: Thank you.

476
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: This is why I never beg you to come out

477
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 4: to like bars and hicks, Like, why would I you

478
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 4: have to come here? There's like really bad natchos, there's

479
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 4: nothing to offer you.

480
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: There's really hard to follow conversation about things you don't

481
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: care about. Right.

482
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: So, Cindy also claimed that her mother had spoken to

483
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 4: her about what the two of them could do with

484
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: the life insurance.

485
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 3: Money if Bruce were dead.

486
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 4: Oh no, but Cindy said that her mother had even

487
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 4: told her that she had tried to poison Bruce previously

488
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 4: with the plant foxglove, which I guess is a poisonous plant.

489
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 4: It's very witchy of her, but it didn't work. But

490
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 4: still there's no smoking gun. Cindy hadn't seen Stella put

491
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 4: the poison into the pills, and Stella had never confessed

492
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 4: anything to her daughter. And then Cindy told authorities that

493
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 4: after the Then Cindy was like, you know, oooh shit,

494
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 4: just throw a pen at the microphone. Oh, I want

495
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: to also say okay, okay, hold on boop, let me think.

496
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: Okay.

497
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 4: But then Cindy was like, you know what might work?

498
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 4: My mom started after the foxglove thing. My mom started

499
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 4: to check out books on poison at the fucking library.

500
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 5: Girl.

501
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: This is like that part of seven where they just

502
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: go and they look up all the books.

503
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: The person looked, that's right, and they did that.

504
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: They got a fucking search warrant or whatever. They got

505
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 4: all the books. They found the books that she had

506
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 4: checked out out at the Auburn Public Library and showed

507
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 4: that she had checked out numerous books about poisons, including

508
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: a book called human Poisoning.

509
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: Oh get a little more subtle, and.

510
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: Native and cultivated plants and deadly harvest. So they fucking

511
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: fingerprint that shit. Yeah, act fingerprints that shit.

512
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: It only has roughly fifteen hundred fingerprints, that's right.

513
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 4: But they also subpoened her I don't know, you know

514
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 4: card for sure, Yeah, and saw that she had checked

515
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 4: it out. They found her fingerprints on it, including the

516
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: page that belonged to Cyanide, and they have their.

517
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: What they can do.

518
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 4: And also, so what they think happened was that she

519
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 4: poisoned her husband.

520
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 3: He died. The doctor wouldn't would only say it was

521
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: on phazma.

522
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 4: So to get it back to the fucking poison she

523
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 4: went out after that and put poison fucking bottles on

524
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Speaker 4: the shelf.

525
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: Oh my godness.

526
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 4: So the reason Sue died a week later is because

527
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 4: those bottles hadn't been on the shelf yet. So if

528
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: the doctor had been like he got poisoned and it

529
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: was accidental poisoning.

530
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: She would have gotten her money and left it alone, right,

531
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: But she went out and basically.

532
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: Not saying it's the doctor's fault at all, but she

533
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 4: went out to garner more attention to get that accidental

534
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: death and killed Sue and killed Susan snow. Wow, isn't

535
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: that fucking awful. Yeah, really, so it is. So on

536
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 4: December ninth, nineteen eighty seven, Stella Nichols indicted by a

537
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: federal grand jury on five counts of product tampering, including

538
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 4: two which results in the deaths of Susan Snow and

539
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 4: Bruce Nichols.

540
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 3: So she's not.

541
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: So's it's federal because after the tailanol murders.

542
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: They the FBI.

543
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: Did a strict new federal Anti Tampering Act and it

544
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 4: was like super strict, you can't tamper with drugs. So

545
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 4: that's why it was federal. But so she wasn't tried

546
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: for their murders. Oh it was tampering that led.

547
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: To the deaths of these two people.

548
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: Why because that sentence would be longer something that was

549
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: a bigger deal.

550
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. So you said that just like my cousin.

551
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 3: I I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

552
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 4: So she goes to trial in April nineteen eighty eight.

553
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 4: Cindy agrees to fucking testify against her mother as long

554
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: as her mother doesn't get the fucking death penalty, and

555
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, great, that won't happen.

556
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: Talk about Wow, what a complex relationship.

557
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 4: Better Yeah, Stella's found guilty on all charges. She becomes

558
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 4: a first person charged and convicted under this Federal Anti

559
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 4: Tampering Act. She sentenced to two ninety year terms for

560
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 4: the charges relating to the deaths of Susan Snow and

561
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 4: Bruce Nicol, and three ten year terms for the other

562
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: product tampering. She'll be eligible parole in this this fucking year.

563
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: Oh at seventy three years old. Jesus, So, I think

564
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 4: they're trying to also get the figure out a way

565
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: that to a charge her with murder as well. Yeah,

566
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: but she fucking is like, I am innocent. This is

567
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: some bullshit. She's doing all these like appeals and shit

568
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: because she said there's a bunch of evidence that was

569
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: never turned over to the defense. She also claims that

570
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 4: her daughter lied in order to get that Remember that

571
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 4: three hundred thousand dollars that was offered to be people

572
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 4: who could help out the draw companies. Yep, the daughter

573
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: got two hundred and fifty thousand of that money.

574
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: So it's almost like she said, she said, like she's

575
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: doing it for money.

576
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: She's doing it for yeah wow.

577
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

578
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: So but fucking stell and Nicol continues to maintain her innocence. Yeah,

579
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: a girl an No, girl doesn't look good for you.

580
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 3: It does. There's too many coincidences. There's too many, and

581
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 3: that's just Seattle Cyanide poisonings.

582
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: That's amazing because I remember the Exceedron one coming after Thailand.

583
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: All yeah, I did not know it was that involved.

584
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: In crazy Yeah, how did I? I didn't really know

585
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 4: about it either, so nuts.

586
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

587
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: Well, then the story I'm going to follow that one

588
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: up with is basically Hannah suggested this to me because

589
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: it's it's basically kind of her hometown. It's a story

590
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: she remembers happening. She's from basically Washington State, and she

591
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: remembers this kicking off and it was basically one of

592
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: those things that took over. Everybody knew about it, people

593
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: were following it in the news. It's this crazy story.

594
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: So thanks Hannah for the suggestion. So the sources for

595
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: this story today, there's a bunch of articles from haroldnett

596
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: dot Com, one by Jackson Holtz, one by Eric Stevick,

597
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: one by Noah Hagland. Then there's an article by Ryan

598
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: Owens and Sarah Nettter for ABC News, an article by

599
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: Patrick Opman CNN there's a New York Times article by

600
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: William Yardley. There's a Komo TV staff article, and there's

601
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: a cr Douglas article for Fox thirteen Seattle. There was

602
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: an episode of forty eight hours about this case. CBS

603
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: news article written by Paul Rosa Sarah Pryor, and there's

604
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: an article from the Seattle Times by a writer named

605
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: Evan Bush. And if you and there's more sources, you

606
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: can check the show notes for This is the story

607
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: of Colton Harris Moore, also known as the Barefoot Bandit Okay.

608
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Colton Moore is born March twenty second, nineteen ninety one,

609
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: in Mount Vernon, Washington. He grows up in a trailer

610
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: in the woods on Southern Camano Island, which is about

611
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: an hour north of Seattle on Puget Sound, so his

612
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: home life's chaotic. His mother, Pam drinks while she's pregnant

613
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: with Colt. This impacts his neuro cognitive development. His father, Gordon,

614
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: is a drug user who gets sent to prison when

615
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: Colt is still a toddler. Then, when Colt is four,

616
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: his mom remarries to a man named William Kohler, who,

617
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: according to Pam herself, had a criminal history and a

618
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: heroin addiction, So not great stuff happening in that trailer

619
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: in the forest.

620
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 5: So all that would be hard enough to deal with.

621
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: But then Pam is said to be verbally, physically, and

622
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: emotionally abusive all throughout Colt's childhood. According to his aunt Sandra,

623
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: who is Pam's sister, when Pam drinks, she gets belligerent

624
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: and violent and is known to break her son's toys

625
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: as a punishment to him. So not great stuff. Yeah,

626
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: their neighbors hear Pam screaming at Cult all hours of

627
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: the day and night.

628
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: She's also a neglectful parent.

629
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: Cult as a child often asked the adults in his life,

630
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: like teachers and his friend's parents, if he could have food,

631
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: and court records indicate that Pam basically did not make

632
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: sure the Cult went to school, so he missed a

633
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: ton of school. All this has a negative effect on

634
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: him growing up. When he does go to school, he

635
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: bullies other students he defies as teachers as Psychological evaluation

636
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: years later states that Culton has a long term history

637
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: of psychiatric and behavioral difficulties. He's also been prescribed a

638
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: wide range of psychiatric medications, including antidepressants, stimulant medications, mood stabilizers,

639
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: and even anti psychotic medication. And he was also a

640
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: different points diagnosed with the Russian attention deficit disorder and

641
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: intermittent explosive disorder. So when CPS gets called, in which

642
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: they did, they were multiple times throughout Colt's childhood, the

643
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: caseworkers would recommend that Pam seek counseling for her son.

644
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: She would decline. When he's ten years old, he's removed

645
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: from the home for three days, but they CPS has

646
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: to close the investigation due to lack of cooperation from Pam. Yeah,

647
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: that seems against Like, yeah, we get that she's not cooperating.

648
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 5: That's why CPS got called in the first.

649
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: Place, right, Like lack of cooperation by the abuser is

650
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: yet a reason to cancel the case.

651
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: So that second husband, William, dies when Colt is eleven,

652
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: and then Pam soon enters another relationship with a man

653
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: who moves into the house, who Pam would later describe

654
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: as not playing with a full deck. He was an

655
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: alcoholic and and ultimately Pam ends the relationship. At some point,

656
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: Colt's biological father, Gordon, returned to the home after he's

657
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: released from prison, and in May two thousand and three,

658
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: when Colt is twelve, he calls nine one one reporting

659
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: Gordon pushed him to the ground and grabbed him by

660
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: the throat, and when police arrived, Gordon flees to the

661
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: woods nearby, but the police end up arresting him and

662
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: taking him to jail. And after that, Gordon cuts off

663
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: contact with Pam and Colt and he moves to Las Vegas,

664
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: and Pam basically blames Colt for that happening.

665
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 5: So by the time.

666
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: Colt is fifteen years old, CPS has responded to twelve

667
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: separate incidents at the Moor Home. So really rough childhood.

668
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: Later that same year, in November of two thousand and three,

669
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: twelve year old Colt is accused of breaking into a

670
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: business in the city of Stanwood and then breaking into

671
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: Stanwood Middle School, stealing a laptop in CDs and defacing

672
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: a bulletin board.

673
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 5: Sorry it just sounds funny, you know.

674
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: He wrote fuck you on like some kind of a

675
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: bulletin board in a way that they couldn't get off.

676
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: Pretty sure I did something like that as a kid too,

677
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: you know.

678
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: You know, if you can't stay home and everything really sucks, there.

679
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: People are really shitty there. You're going to go fuck

680
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: some stuff up as a kid is a way of saying,

681
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: will someone please step in?

682
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: Totally?

683
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: Totally, So, he pleads guilty to possession of soul and property.

684
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: He sentenced to six months supervision and fifty six hours

685
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: of community service. A social workers report notes Colton wants

686
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 2: mom to stop drinking and smoking, get a job, and

687
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: have food in the house.

688
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 5: Mom refuses.

689
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: So that's a rough encapsulation of what life is like

690
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: for a twelve year old cult in two thousand and four.

691
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: So it's a year later, Colts probation officer writes, Coltan

692
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: his mother share a tumultuous relationship. Colton's mother reported to

693
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: me that he is violent at home on a near

694
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: daily base. He recently broke the telephone in order to

695
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 2: prevent her from calling the police. She then showed me

696
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: a mark on her forearm of how he had bit

697
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: her and went after her with a boat.

698
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: Oar, my god.

699
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: His mother reported how Colton is now medicated and complying

700
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: with taking his medications, and his behavior has not been

701
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: hostile toward her. He's thirteen years old, so basically he's

702
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: giving what he's gotten, and then he's.

703
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: In trouble for it. He's reacting.

704
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: In December two thousand and five, a police report is

705
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: made alleging that fourteen year old Colt assaulted his mother.

706
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: In the summer of two thousand and six, Colts due

707
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: to appear in court at Denny Juvenile Justice Center in Everett,

708
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: but he's so scared of going back into detention that

709
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: he runs away. The day before his hearing. He starts

710
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: breaking into homes on Comano Island and watching internet porn

711
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: on the residen's home computer.

712
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds great.

713
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 5: Right, He's like, I'm not going to get in trouble

714
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 5: for this, all right. Yeah.

715
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: He breaks into unoccupied vacation homes through skylights and then

716
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: squats in the homes for several days before moving on

717
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: and taking food and portable electronic devices with him. When

718
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 2: he's not vacation home squatting, he camps out in the woods.

719
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 2: And by this point he's dropped out of school. He's

720
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: only in the ninth grade. Oh my god, he's a

721
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: child Stone.

722
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a baby.

723
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: In January two thousand and seven, after six local burglaries,

724
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: the Island County Sheriff's Office puts up wanted posters with

725
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: Colts picture and his information. Basically, there's fifteen thousand people

726
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: on this island and that's usually when the.

727
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 5: Vacation people are there.

728
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's five thousand households, so it's a tiny place.

729
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: Like you know.

730
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: Everyone knows that this is Colt doing it, so stories

731
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: about his exploits start appearing in the media, and within

732
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: a matter of weeks, a local resident notices that there

733
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: are lights on inside what should have been an empty

734
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: vacation home. The police are alerted and when they arrive,

735
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: they tell Colt that the house is surrounded, even though

736
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: it's actually not. They had just set up flashlights to

737
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: make it look like there was cops all around the house.

738
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 5: Oh my god, but there weren't.

739
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: So Colt falls for it and he comes out and

740
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: gives himself up. In court, he pleads guilty to three

741
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: of the twenty three felony charges against him. His aunt,

742
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: Sandra writes to the court in support of her nephew,

743
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: saying quote, I love that boy like one of my

744
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: own kids. I think he got mixed in with the

745
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: wrong crowd and he got himself in too far. Colt

746
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: is sentenced to three years confinement and ordered to stay

747
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: in a group home in Renton, Washington. So, on April

748
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: twenty second, two thousand and eight, seventeen year old Colt

749
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: Like basically breaks out of this group home. He sneaks

750
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: out a window and he goes on the run, and

751
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: soon South Camano Island residents are reporting break ins to

752
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: the police. So a couple months later, he allegedly steals

753
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: his neighbor's Mercedes and crashes it into a pro painting

754
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: behind a cafe.

755
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: Who this is?

756
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: What's the Can you think of the word for it

757
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: where it's like when you're doing bad but it doesn't

758
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: hurt anybody.

759
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 5: They have that word for it.

760
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: It's like reckless, like there's no direct victim, but it's

761
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: like it's hijinks. Would yeah, but no, but yeah, official

762
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: police shenanigans.

763
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: There's a term for it that's essentially like you're behaving.

764
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: Badly and they knock it off.

765
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: I just think it's funny to be like, I'm just

766
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: gonna there's all these rich people everywhere. I'm just gonna

767
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: steal their ship and fuck it up and like just

768
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: do what I want because fuck everything. He flees the scene,

769
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: but he leaves behind his backpack containing his journal, stolen

770
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: credit cards, a GPS, his cell phone, and a digital

771
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: camera that he used to take selfies with. Dude, they

772
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: kind of know it's him, so a couple months later

773
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: he steals money from an but they still haven't caught him.

774
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 5: They just know they find his stuff there.

775
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: Basically, in September of the same year, he steals money

776
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: from an ATM on Orches Island and in the process

777
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: cuts himself and leaves blood on the machine so they're

778
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: able to take DNA like basically to later compare it

779
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: with other crimes because he's he is breaking the law.

780
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.

781
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 5: It isn't.

782
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Hyjie ser shenands. On November twelfth of the same year,

783
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: he breaks into a locked airplane hangar on Orchis Island

784
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 2: and he steals a Cessna one eighty two airplanes worth

785
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. He has never

786
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: had a flying lesson, he doesn't even have his driver's license,

787
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: and the plane belongs to Seattle radio personality Bob Rivers

788
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: at one o two point five k z ok, so

789
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: he somehow figures out a way to fly it over

790
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: the Cascade Mountain range. Yes, he's threw a wide out

791
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: at thirteen thousand feet and all these wind gusts.

792
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: It was not ideal.

793
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: Okay, how do you even get a plane off of

794
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: the fucking runway?

795
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: They think that he taught himself how to fly using

796
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: simulation software on laptops and studying plane manuals for hours.

797
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: For hours, So what usually takes people fucking months and months?

798
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: Probably?

799
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet you this kid was very so right.

800
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: It's one of those annoying things where it's like, if

801
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: you had had a shot in life, you would have

802
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: yes made something of yourself right or been a way

803
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: better burglar.

804
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: But either way, once I got to this part, I

805
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: was just like a seventeen year old steals a Cessna

806
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: and is able to fly it somewhere. Oh my god, Like,

807
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: what seventeen year old do you know that could like

808
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: steal a car and drive it down the street, much

809
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: less an airplane he's never flown before. Okay, So he

810
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: ends up crashing the plane three hundred miles away on

811
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: the Yakama Indian Reservation. When police get to the scene

812
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: where the plane crashes, they don't find Colt, but there

813
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: is vomit inside the plane and they take a sample

814
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: compared to the DNA, and now they know that the

815
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: the ATM crime and this airplane ceialing is Colt.

816
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: Okay, this, this police department is too well funded if

817
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: they're doing DNA tests on what is clearly fucking seventeen

818
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: year old, Like it's clearly him.

819
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 5: You don't need a DNA.

820
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: But now, but they get that proof, They've got that

821
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: locked in proof. But here's what I love more than

822
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: that he stole the plane. He's flying the plane and

823
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: then he gets he gets like basically so nervous. He

824
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: barfs while he's flying in like bad weather. I mean

825
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: I just had actual seasickness. Yeah, motion sickness, thank you.

826
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

827
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Could I mean, if it was bad weather, turbulence would

828
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: have could have made him throw up.

829
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 5: It's it's pretty amazing.

830
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: So the investigators look into more unsolved cases of burglaries

831
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: and associated offenses that Colt could have been responsible for.

832
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: And there are over seventy cases throughout the Pacific Northwest,

833
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: and that includes Washington State, Idaho, Oregon, and several locations

834
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: in Canada. It's basically residential and commercial burglaries, bank burglaries,

835
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: vehicle thefts, boat theft, aircraft theft, and assault to police officers.

836
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: Colt is alleged to have stolen or destroyed around three

837
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: million dollars.

838
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 5: Worth of property.

839
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: Wow, rich people have insurance. I don't feel bad.

840
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 5: That's right.

841
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: There's probably a couple of like the whatever boats he

842
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: stole that the people were like, oh, thank god.

843
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, we like to go laptop on there, and like

844
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: the Mega an extra thousand bucks or whatever.

845
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: My kruegerrands, right, they're also missing there. So finally, on

846
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: March twelfth, two thousand and nine, a felony warrant is

847
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: issued for his arrest. So now it's it's now it's

848
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: big time. But before that they can exercise that warrant,

849
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: they have to find him first. On September eleventh, two

850
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, Colt steals a Cirrus SR twenty two

851
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: plane worth about a half a million dollars from a

852
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: town called Friday Harbor, also in Washington State.

853
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

854
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 2: And he crash lands the plane back on Orches Island.

855
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: So he's kind of doing it all around in the

856
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: same area.

857
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: He's you know, I'm just picturing Bart Simpson this entire

858
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: fucking yes.

859
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: Yes, completely he does. He's just like, how else can

860
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: I show that I don't give a fuck?

861
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: Right?

862
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 5: Like, right, Yeah, I'm just gonna do what I want. Okay.

863
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: So after the crash, Colt is seen walking away from

864
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: the wreckage by a police officer, but for some inexplicable reason,

865
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: the cop fails to detain Colts.

866
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: He like fist pumps him as he walks away. Yeah,

867
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: he's kind of like, you walked away from that? Amazing.

868
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: The same month, Colt makes his way to Canada in

869
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: a stolen boat, subsequently making his way back to the

870
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: US through British Columbia and so obviously undetected, Like how

871
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: did he do that? A couple weeks later, on September

872
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 2: twenty ninth, Colt steals a Cessna T one eighty two

873
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: T from a hangar in Bonners Ferry, Idaho, and he

874
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: leaves barefootprints on the ground. He takes off in the

875
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 2: plane in Idaho and he again flies back over the Cascades,

876
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: but he crash lands sixty miles away near Snahomish, Washington

877
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: because he runs out of fuel while he's flying. On

878
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: October first, two thousand and nine, a lagger near Granite

879
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: Falls finds that plane wreck. The police trace barefoot prints

880
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: from the crash site to a camp in the woods,

881
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: but there's no sign of Colt. The next day, a

882
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: second local felony arrestaurant is issued for Colts and he's

883
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: charged with forced entry burglary in a second degree. A

884
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: few days later, SWAT officers searching the area for Colt

885
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: are fired at by an unknown assailant.

886
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's bad.

887
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 5: So now Colt.

888
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 2: This is going on and building to such a degree

889
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: that now in the media, Colts is being called the

890
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: barefoot bandit.

891
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't imagine like being from one of these

892
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: small towns and like knowing that this person is.

893
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just gonna he's going to steal your shit.

894
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: He's going to do what he wants with it.

895
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of exciting for like if Hannah is young

896
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: and reading about those being like.

897
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she said they tracked it, like they

898
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: paid attention to it and watch it on the news

899
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: and what It's crazy. Even though he usually wears shoes

900
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: the moniker sticks, so the barefoot thing only happened a

901
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: couple times. When Colt's mother, Pam, hears about the latest theft,

902
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: she says I'm proud of him. I was going to

903
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: send him to flight school, but I guess I don't

904
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: have to. But next time I want him to wear

905
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: a parachute. Colt's popularity as a pseudo modern folk hero

906
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: gains support when a member of the public starts a

907
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: Facebook page for him, of course, because remember it to

908
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: thousand and nine. The page eventually gets more than one

909
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: hundred thousand followers, and it has posts that say things

910
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: like let's hope that he remains healthy, free, and at

911
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: large for a long time. Fly Colton Fly, So that

912
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: sounds like pam to me. It gets so popular they

913
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: actually start making t shirts, tote bags, and mugs, and

914
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: they have Colts picture on them with the caption Mama tried.

915
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: But Camano Island locals who've had their belonging stolen are

916
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: damaged are not amused. They actually end up launching their

917
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: own counter blog in an attempt to raise money so

918
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: they can hire a bounty hunter to track Colt down.

919
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: Man, he's given them life, Like he's making these people

920
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: who just sit at home watching a fuck and everybody

921
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: loves Raymond every night. He's like making their lives exciting.

922
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: You're welcome that's right, you know. Now it's becoming international news.

923
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: Reporters from all over the globe travel to Kmaano Island

924
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: or report on the search for the Barefoot Bandit, and

925
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: they all want to talk to his mother, Pam. Pam

926
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: publicly encourages Colt to escape to a country that doesn't

927
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: extradite to the US. So the entire time Colt's on

928
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: the run, he calls his aunt Sandra once a month

929
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: to let her know he's okay. Ant's Auntie's auntie. You

930
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: can always count on us not to turn you in.

931
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 5: We would never. I'll never turn nor in for any crime.

932
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: An anties don't snitch, that's not new sing. You can

933
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: stay at our house.

934
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: Sandra pleads with her nephew to please turn himself, but

935
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: just to him, Yeah, right, just to him. But he

936
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: tells her every time that he's not ready to stop

937
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: just yet. On December eleventh, two thousand and nine, the

938
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: US District Court in Seattle issues a federal warrant for

939
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: colts arrest because of the aircraft theft from Idaho in September.

940
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 5: So it's everything's gonna.

941
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: Stacky, okay.

942
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: By February twenty ten, eighteen year old Colt has been

943
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: e looting police for nearly two years.

944
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: At this wow, I mean two years on the run.

945
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: It's like a reality show Coulton on the Run, you know. Yep.

946
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: He allegedly steals a plane from a town called Anna

947
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: Cordis and he flies it over to Orches Island, somehow

948
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: escaping the attention of Vancouver Air Traffic Control. He's like

949
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: going out and stealing stuff and bringing it back to

950
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: Orches Island. Yeah. Now everyone is on the hunt for Colt.

951
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: US Customs and Border Patrol, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,

952
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: the FBI, the US Coast Guard, officers from six different

953
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: Washington counties with tracker dogs, swat teams, and police helicopters

954
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 2: with infrared heat sensors.

955
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 5: And yet they cannot find him.

956
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: So soon after this, Colt breaks into an Orches Island

957
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: deli and eats an entire.

958
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: Cheesecake what wait, was it called the cheesebox?

959
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 5: Oh? If only?

960
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: Oh he eats an entire she What a weird detail.

961
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: He's truly living. He also vandalizes this security system and

962
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: causes sixty five hundred dollars worth of damage. He then

963
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: draws thirty nine bare feet on the floor with chalk

964
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: with prints leading out the door and then the letters

965
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: CYA ciya scrawled next to the footprints.

966
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Oh my, that's a that's a little intense thirty nine footprints.

967
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

968
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: He spends months hiding out on Orca's Island. He commits

969
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: more than twenty break ins and burglaries allegedly while he's there.

970
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: Police release surveillance camera photos from island market in the

971
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: hope that somebody will recognize him, and word spreads that

972
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: Colt is hiding out somewhere in the woods. So on

973
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: May thirty, first, twenty ten, Colt leaves You're gonna like

974
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: this one. He leaves one hundred dollars at Vetter's Animal

975
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: Hospital in Raymond, Washington, with a note that says drove

976
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: by had some extra cash. Please use this money for

977
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: the care of animals, Signed Colton Harris Moore aka the

978
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 2: Barefoot Bandit.

979
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: Okay, well, now we just love him.

980
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: Now we love him.

981
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: He's a modern day Robin Hood kind of yeah. On

982
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: June first, twenty ten, he steals a four hundred and

983
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars fishing boat from Ilwaco, not far from Raymond,

984
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: to cross the Columbia River, and that boat ends up

985
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: being recovered in Warrington, Oregon. From there, Colt steals a

986
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: series of cars and heads east across Oregon and Idaho.

987
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: Eleven days later, on June twelfth, authorities in Spearfish, South

988
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: Dakota find an abandoned vehicle with Washington plates. Then, on

989
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: the night of June eighteenth, Colt pries open the doors

990
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 2: at the airport in Norfolk, Nebraska. He uses a broom

991
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: handle to try to force open a cockpit window, hoping

992
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: to unlock the plane, but it doesn't work, so instead

993
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: he steals an escalade from the airport and he drives

994
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: it to Iowa and dumps it when he gets there.

995
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 5: He then steals another car, drives that to the.

996
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: Airport in a Tumwa, Iowa, where he again tries to

997
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 2: break into a plane, but again the barefoot bandit fails,

998
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: so he steals yet another car and he drives to

999
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: Dallas City, Illinois, but from there the authorities lose track

1000
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: of him, and then in late June of twenty ten,

1001
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: another arrest warrant is issued for him, this time from

1002
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: Madison County, Nebraska, with counts of break ins, vehicle theft,

1003
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: and an attempted airplane theft. So basically, as he's going

1004
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: through and breaking, you know, doing all his little crimes

1005
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: and his break ins and things, just behind him, the

1006
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: warrants are piling up state by state. On July third,

1007
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 2: twenty ten, in Bloomington, Indiana, Colt steals a four seater

1008
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: Cessna four hundred airplane worth six hundred and fifty thousand

1009
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 2: dollars Monroe County Airport. During this flight, he takes videos

1010
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: of his journey from inside the company.

1011
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he live streaming.

1012
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 5: Twenty ten.

1013
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: It might have been too early for that, but he

1014
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: does have him on his phone.

1015
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 5: This time.

1016
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: He flies himself to the Bahamas and then he crashes

1017
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: the plane in shallow waters off the coast of Great

1018
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: Abaco Island.

1019
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: All right, now we're talking.

1020
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 5: Finally he's going somewhere. Exciting.

1021
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1022
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: Soon after that, break ins are reported all across the island.

1023
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: So the FBI now is involved and they're offering a

1024
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars reward for information leading to the arrest

1025
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: of Colton harris More. Special Agent Stephen Dean says, quote,

1026
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 2: we want to get him. He's turned from a regional

1027
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: nuisance into an international problem.

1028
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 5: End quote.

1029
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: So US law enforcement traveled to the Bahamas, where they

1030
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: launch a full scale search and put up wanted posters.

1031
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: Their CCTV footage that captures brief images of cult visiting

1032
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 2: bars and restaurants.

1033
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 5: In the area. So he's living his life. He's on

1034
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 5: bandit vacation.

1035
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1036
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: Pam hires an entertainment lawyer named Yagel Lewis to field

1037
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 2: inquiries from parties offering to buy the rights to coult

1038
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: story for book and movie deals, but she's not interested

1039
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: in speaking to reporters. She puts up a sign at

1040
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: the end of the road like her driveway to the trailer,

1041
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: that says if you go past this sign, you'll be shot.

1042
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: Shit.

1043
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: But Pam has changed her attitude about her son being

1044
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: on the run. Now she says that she wants him

1045
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: to turn himself in before anyone gets hurt. By this point,

1046
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: Colt's image has been broadcast throughout the Bahamas, so people

1047
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: there actually know who he is and what's going on,

1048
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: because again he's gone to a small island community right

1049
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: and gotten away with it.

1050
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, got in public.

1051
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1052
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: On July seven to twenty ten, Bahamian ferryboat captain Freddie

1053
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: Grant sees somebody matching Colt's description swimming on the northern

1054
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: end of a Luthra Island. So Freddy's noticed also that

1055
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 2: the ignitions to a bunch of the fairies have been

1056
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: messed with and damaged, and he can put two and

1057
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: two together. So three days later, on July eleventh, around

1058
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: three in the morning, Kenny Strahan, the security director of

1059
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: Remora Bay Marina and on Harbor Island, sees somebody running

1060
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: away from the boat docks toward the marina's exit, and

1061
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: he's sure that it's cult so he pursues this person

1062
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: on foot, and when he catches up to him, he

1063
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: realizes it really is the Barefoot banded himself, and he

1064
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: realizes the Barefoot bandit now has a gun, so Kenny

1065
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: backs off. He calls the Bahamian police, and meanwhile Colt

1066
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: runs back toward the docks, climbs into a boat that

1067
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: had the he's left in the ignition, and takes off.

1068
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: When police arrive, they also commandeer a boat and they

1069
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: take off after him. They fire at the boat's engines

1070
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: that Gold is driving. Some of them actually have oozzis,

1071
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: so this becomes like a real pursuit, they basically force

1072
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: Colt to surrender.

1073
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 5: As the police scream at Gold to put.

1074
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: His gun down, he puts it to his head, threatening

1075
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: to kill himself because he says he cannot go back

1076
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: to jail. The police move closer. Colt then throws his

1077
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 2: gun and his laptop overboard, and basically the wild ride

1078
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: is finally over for the Barefoot Bandit. When nineteen year

1079
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: old Colton Harris Moore is arrested, he's photographed walking barefoot

1080
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: with his ankles shackled. Authorities fly him to Nassau to

1081
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: be for processing. Colt is not showing any signs of

1082
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: fear or distress at this point, and they actually go

1083
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: back and find both his gun and his laptop. His

1084
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 2: back is seized upon arrest, and inside the police find

1085
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: a boy Scouts of America certificate two fifth grade class photos,

1086
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: some airplane sketches, and a Waffler PPK which is the

1087
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: same gun that James Bond uses. So this is a

1088
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 2: little boy.

1089
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 5: Right.

1090
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Speaker 2: On July thirteenth, twenty ten, Colt pleads guilty to entering

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: the Bahamas illegally. So you can't just fly to the Bahamas,

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00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: you got it fly Their crash and.

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00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 5: Then go swimming the way he did. That's no. Now

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Speaker 5: we know.

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Speaker 1: It's good to know everyone.

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00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: Now we know, he's sentenced to three months in jail

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00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: or a three hundred dollars fine. Pam wires him the

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00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: money and pays the fine. Colts deported by the US

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00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: Attorney's office and flown back to Miami, where he has

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Speaker 2: taken to federal jail. Following Colt's arrest, Pam issues a

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00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: statement saying she's relieved her son is safe and that

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00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: no one's hurt. She also says she's looking forward to

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00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 2: seeing him soon, having not seen him for two years.

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00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: Colts followers on social media get behind his defense, and

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00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: they donate money for his legal costs. Pam joins the

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: plea for assistants, saying, quote, now there's not a break

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: in or a theft in the entire Northwest that the

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00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: media or law enforcement doesn't put rush to pin on Colt.

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00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: We have no way of knowing what charges will be

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00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: filed against him. The media has already convicted him as

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00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: the Barefoot bandit and created widespread accusations and perception of guilt. Eventually, though,

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00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: Colt will have to fight for his freedom against the

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00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: full force of the legal system end quote.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like our Pam. That sounds like through a lawyer.

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00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: Well, that also sounds like the most insane rationalization of

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00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: a public series of crimes that this person very gleefully committed.

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00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: It's like, you don't get to go back now and

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00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: be like, can you believe they're pin in all these.

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00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 5: Crimes on him?

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Speaker 2: It's like, yes, he did, like fifty crimes in a row,

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: So yes, I do believe it. Ye, Pam is pulling

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00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: what we call my family being a day late and

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00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: a dollar short. So on July twenty first, twenty ten,

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Speaker 2: Colts transferred to the Federal Detention Center in Seattle, and

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Speaker 2: he appears in court the next day where he waves

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Speaker 2: his right to a preliminary hearing and a speedy trial.

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Speaker 2: So on November eighteenth, he pleads not guilty in federal

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Speaker 2: court to charges of interstate transportation of a stolen plane

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00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: so specific a plane boat and gun stolen, of being

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00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: a fugitive in possession of a firearm, and flying without

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00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: a pilot's license. And that same month, forty eight Hours

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Speaker 2: did an episode about Colt's exploits, so you can watch

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Speaker 2: that in.

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00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 5: Streaming services everywhere.

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00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: Both Pam and her sister Sondra write letters to the

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00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: court in an attempt to explain what has led to

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00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: Colt's antisocial behavior.

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Speaker 5: Here's what Pam writes.

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: Quote, this boy has had many disappointments all his life.

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00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: His stepfather died and our dog and this has had

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00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: severe effects on Colt and I. He does things without

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00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: thinking of the end results.

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Speaker 5: End quote.

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Speaker 2: Court proceedings continue throughout twenty eleven. In March, the FBI

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00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: confirmed that the reward money is split among the officers

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00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: who arrested Colt, as well as Kenny Strahan and On

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00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: June seventeenth, twenty eleven, Colt pleads guilty to all seven

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00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: counts on the federal indictment. Under his plea deal, he

1149
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: agrees to forfeit any profits from selling publishing rights to

1150
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: his story. In August twenty eleven, Twentieth Century Fox pays

1151
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: more than a million dollars in exchange for the rights

1152
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: to colt story. The studio sends the money directly to

1153
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: the US Marshals to distribute it amongst Colt's victims. Interesting

1154
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: that September, a psychological evaluation finds that Colt's delinquent behavior

1155
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: is driven by depression PTSD and you know, basically suicidal tendencies.

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: He was risking his life every time he flew one

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00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: of those planes that he did not fly. The psychologist

1158
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: notes that Colt has a low risk of reoffending favorable

1159
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: prognosis with appropriate intervention. On to Summer sixth teenth, twenty eleven,

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00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: Cult is sentenced by the State of Washington to seven

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00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: years in jail plus three years of supervised probation. Judge

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00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: Vicki Churchill says, quote, this case is a tragedy in

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00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: many ways, but it's a triumph of the human spirit

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00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: in other ways. The judge notes that Colt has genuine

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00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: remorse for his crimes. As a high profile convict, Colts

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00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: initially placed in solitary confinement for his own protection, which

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00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: must be horrifying. On January twenty seventh, twenty twelve, the

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00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: Federal District Court of Seattle sentences Cult to six and

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00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: a half years in prison. He'll serve both state and

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00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: federal sentences concurrently, and it's determined that he owes his

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00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: victims one point three million dollars in restitution. Ye two

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: months after Colt goes to prison. Author Bob Friel publishes

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00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: a book called The Barefoot Bandit The True Tale of

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00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: Colton Harris Moore, New American Outlaw. In twenty ten, two

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00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: documentaries are released about his experiences, and twenty sixteen, his mom,

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01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: Pam Cohler, dies.

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Speaker 5: Of lung cancer.

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01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, Colt pleads to get out a prison

1179
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: early to work at his lawyer's law firm during the summer.

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01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: According to Colt's attorney, the two had agreed years before

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: the cult could work part time at his law firm

1182
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: doing clerical work. At the same time Colt would be

1183
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: looking for a full time job and eventually go to college.

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01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: His attorney says, cults criminality grew out of poverty, not

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01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: a desire to harm people or cause trouble. In September

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01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, Colts transferred from Stafford Creek Corrections Center in

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01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: Aberdeen to a work release facility in Seattle. He starts

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01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: working for his lawyer, but he hopes one day to

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01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: study aeronautical engineering.

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01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: In December twenty sixteen, twenty five year old Colt is

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01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: released from his work release program, remains under supervision. He

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01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: starts to GoFundMe to raise one hundred and twenty five

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01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for private and commercial pilot license training and

1196
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: helicopter certification, but the Federal Probation Office shuts that down,

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01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: and he's saying that the sixteen hundred dollars that was

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01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: raised so far goes directly to his victims. Cult responds

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01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: publicly on Twitter saying that his stream is crushed, and

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01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: his lawyer states that Colt didn't consult with him before

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01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: starting the GOP on me so. In April twenty nineteen,

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01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: Colt asks the court for his supervised release period to

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: be shortened. He wants to be allowed to visit friends

1204
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: overseas and accept work outside of Washington State to attend

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: engagements as a motivational speaker. Colt claims the work will

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01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: help him pay off the restitution he still owes his victims,

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: telling the court quote, I've learned from my past. I

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01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: do not run from it, but instead try to embrace

1209
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: it for the better. I hope to serve as a

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01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: model for people who have hard lives and who feel hopeless.

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01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: I saw it every day when I was confined, and

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01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: I've seen it in the world upon release end quote.

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: In May twenty nineteen, his request was denied and he

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01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 2: was ordered to complete his probation. Not much is known

1215
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: about him today, although on his LinkedIn profile he describes

1216
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: himself as quote former international fugitive turned entrepreneur focused on education,

1217
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: progress and success. Life is what you make it. My

1218
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 2: intention is to build connections with people who are both

1219
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: clearly motivated and with whom may lead to a mutually

1220
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: beneficial outcome along the lines of problem solving, productivity, and

1221
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: accomplishing goals.

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01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 5: This is what it's all about.

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01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we get a ted talk please?

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01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, and that's the unbelievable story of the Barefoot

1225
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: bandit Colton harris More. Yeah, holy shit, he went on

1226
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: what we call in the business a spree.

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01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 5: He really did it.

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01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: Wow. I have literally never heard a single piece.

1229
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: Of that before same, and it was like happening like

1230
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: by at that point, like it was happening on social media.

1231
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: That's the craziest part, like that modern. Yeah, and I'd

1232
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: never ever seen a thing yea wow, Yeah, good job

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01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: and thank you, good job.

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01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: Colton.

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01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you know, breaking the law isn't isn't

1237
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: the way, but sometimes, you know, sometimes and you're depressed

1238
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: and like.

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01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: Like stealing airplanes and flying them when you don't know

1240
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: how to is kind of the.

1241
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: Way the bandit part. Yeah, he's like a yeah, he's

1242
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: like A.

1243
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 5: He's just kind of doing it. I don't know, it's

1244
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 5: just like he's doing something at least.

1245
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like impressive. You don't want to like,

1246
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: you don't want to support it.

1247
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 5: You don't want to celebrate it.

1248
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also like, wow, you know, he didn't

1249
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: hurt He didn't hurt anybody, hurt anybody, I mean physically people.

1250
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: He could have killed people, crashing mills queens absolutely.

1251
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: Could have killed people. And he had guns on him,

1252
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: which is not great.

1253
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: It isn't great. But then the second he got called

1254
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: on and he threw it in the oce.

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01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. So wow, I don't know, yeah, I

1256
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: don't know. Wow that was That was a really fun story.

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01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: Thank you for staying sexy and don't get murdered. Goodbye, bye, Elvis.

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01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Do you want to cook? He?

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01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,360
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01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 3: This episode was mixed by Leona Squalacci.

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,160
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