1 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody's gone in middle Coop three 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: and Out podcast just finished Eagles Giants somehow made it through. 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: It was crappy, then it was kind of entertaining, then 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: it was crappy again, and then it was really entertaining 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: at the end. Uh. We'll obviously dive into this game 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: right off the top. Some thoughts on wins. I might 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: have to, you know, take an ail on Joe Judge. 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: I crushed him for making coaches run, but I I've 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: been impressed with this football team the last four or 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: five games, really ever since that Week two game against 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: the Niners. They I gotta tip my hat to him. Uh. 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: Then we're gonna dive into a lot of stuff to 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: uh his name starter. Have some thoughts there in regards 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: the Fitzpatrick. The Ravens made a big trade. Uh why 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: why it was just a clinic on value? Some thoughts 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: on Justin uh not, Yeah, Justin Fields almost like Justin Herbert. 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and the kind of the season he's embarking on. 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's pretty clear Trevor Lawrence is 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: the top quarterback in the draft, but Justin Fields was 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: the guy that led the charge for Ohio State in 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, you know, as a player to come back. 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: I think he can really cement himself in this, uh 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: this upcoming next you know, seven or eight games you 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: play in the Big Ten, probably the playoffs, and he's 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: on a stacked team, and uh, it's gonna be fun 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: to watch him starting Saturday. Three for the Money, as always, 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: picked three games that I like, and you know, I 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: actually really like three of these games. Uh what else 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: do we have? Go on Middlecoff mail bag at John 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: Middlecoff of course, slide up into those d m s 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is my Instagram. I've been saying, I 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen this week, maybe the next 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Maybe my timeline was off. I'm a 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: little in the dark on this. Getting not trying to 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: make excuses, but still subscribe to the podcast three Me 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: and Out, Stitcher, Spotify, Apple, wherever you the three and 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Out with John Middlecoffee. If you listen through college Feed, 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate that. I think I should still be on 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: college Feed for a little while. But it could happen 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: at any moment, so just you know, keep your head 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: on a swivel. Like what would Belichick just be ready? 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: You just never know. Uh, That's that's the only update 43 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: I have right now. Let's let's just start with the 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Eagles and Carson Wentz. I think sometimes you just need 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: to trust your eyes. And everything now is so analytic, 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: analytically driven, I would say, just the way we operate 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: in society, numbers are so prevalent. I don't know any 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: human that works in any sort of business that if 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: you go to their office, uh, they don't have the 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: Excel spreadsheet open. Uh, and rightfully so. But I think 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: in football and basketball, and definitely in baseball, numbers are 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: a huge part of the way we evaluate players. They've 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: always been a huge part in the way we evaluate businesses, 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: the way we evaluate employees. Right are you making money 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: or you're losing money? In football, it's always been a 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: huge part the statistical you know, if you throw touchdowns, 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: throw picks, throw yards, whatever. We've diven. We we've diven. 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a word. We've dove much deeper 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: into the numbers, right just because you throw for four 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: hundred yards if two d of those came after the catch, 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: like what we understand that now we've become more educated 62 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: with numbers, and I'm pro numbers, but I think sometimes 63 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: when you just look at a box score, it can 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: be disingenuous is the wrong word, but it cannot paint 65 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: the whole picture. And listen, you could probably call me 66 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: a Carson Wentz defender, but I'll be the first to 67 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: say he has made some very very shitty place this year, 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: like just some head scratching. You can't make that if 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: you're a max quarterback. He made it tonight on Thursday 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: Night football, a hero ball play, and sometimes he takes 71 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: on this hero syndrome. But I was thinking about this 72 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: watching the game. Pros warts and maybe, like Hollywood and 73 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: music probably too, is probably one of the only industries 74 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: where an entire company can be based on a guy 75 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: in their twenties. Most companies right are run independent on 76 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: C E O, S or whoever. People just think about 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: like a normal restaurant. Typically the guys are in like 78 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: their forties or their fifties. Pro sports put give all 79 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: this money depend on these guys that are in their 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: mid twenties. That is a lot of pressure, and I 81 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: think some guys, sometimes especially at the quarterback position, when 82 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: you have injuries, can try to do too much. Now 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you also do dumb things while you're 84 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: trying to do too much. Because he does. He makes 85 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: some hero ball plays and he has I don't even know. 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: I think he had seven touch interceptions coming in today. 87 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: He threw one. So he's got a lot of picks 88 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: this year. He's on pace for you know, like twenty 89 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: interceptions this year. It's not pretty and it's got to stop. 90 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: But if you can't watch the end of that game, 91 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: and I think we all acknowledge he's playing with offensive 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: lineman you've never heard beside Kelsey. He's got his best 93 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, Lane Johnson out there. It looks like he's 94 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: playing coming in and out of the game. Their wide receivers. 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: I follow football for a living. Really, the only profession 96 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: I've ever done has either been working football or talk 97 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: about football that I've been actually paid to do since college. 98 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: I've never heard of these guys. I mean I have 99 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: now the full gum guy. No one knew who that 100 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: guy was till three weeks ago when he caught the 101 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: game winning pass against the forty niners. Never heard of 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: the guy, of course, not he went to Old Dominion. 103 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Even Greg Ward Jr. Who we knew was the quarterback. 104 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: We didn't know about that guy till last year when they, 105 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: you know, took him off the practice squad. They're playing 106 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: with the Rogers tight end, the dude that went to 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Green Bay. I think he's a cow Uh. He played 108 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: for the Packers, but he went to cal I'd say 109 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: they're playing with why because Urch is hurt, Godard's hurt, 110 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders or second went round starting running back is 111 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: not there, Like they're playing with a bunch of randoms. 112 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: And when the dust settled, he through s rs and 113 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: through the game winning touchdown. Now it's against the Giants, 114 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: who are not good and the Eagles to win a game, 115 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: they are typically gonna have to win it at the 116 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: end of the game and it's not gonna be pretty. 117 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: But I think coming into the game, he was missing 118 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: nine of his eleven starters to start the year. And 119 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Deshan came back tonight and then it looked like he 120 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: like shattered his knee in the part return. And I 121 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: like Doug and I'm I'm a big fan of Doug Peterson. 122 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: He some of his play callings sometimes like had me 123 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: scratching my head through a fade. I don't know if 124 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: it's Carson checking at the line. You never know, so 125 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I uh do I give the people that I know 126 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of benefit out sure, So I'm not 127 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: gonna like, did Carson check it the Doug call it? 128 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: If Doug called Akim Butler fade uh in the middle 129 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter, like, I can't defend that. If 130 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: Carson's calling that fade. I I can't defend that either, 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: Like that's idiotic, you can't run that play that they're 132 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: two point plays right now or disaster. True. But Carson 133 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: and I tweeted this right before I came into the 134 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: office to press record. We can shoot on the kid 135 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: all we want. I don't, but I'm just saying, like 136 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Twitter and analysts and people to just say he sucks. 137 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: The overwhelming majority of the NFL. Let me repeat that, 138 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of the NFL would take him. I 139 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: think every team in his division Dack's broken ankle, but 140 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Carson er dak We saw last year carsonal played him 141 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: in the game. They had to have the Giants YEP, 142 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Washington YEP, Chicago Bears YEP, Minnesota Vikings YEP, Atlanta Falcons YEP, 143 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Yep, Sean Payton. You think he'd kicked Drew 144 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: Brees the curb right now? For Carson Wentz. Of course 145 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: he would bruce Arians, He'd probably actually like him. But 146 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean Tom Brady's playing fine. Cardinals, No Rams, yep, Niners. 147 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Hell yes, like a lot of teams would take this guy. 148 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: I just listen to the NFC. More than half the 149 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: teams in the NFC wouldn't even flinch. Some of these guys. 150 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm taking that that he would replace or dollar quarterbacks. 151 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: So listen, is the guy struggling? Has he made some 152 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: bone headed plays? Of course? Is he a freak talent 153 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: and a guy that if you can't see if this 154 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: guy gets it together and they just can stay healthy. 155 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: And people hit me up all the time like who's 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: to blame? Well, listen, I'm not a doctor. I just 157 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: went to a state school and uh, I didn't go 158 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: to that many classes. But I don't know that much 159 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: about Like when I have something weird happened to me, 160 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: I immediately called my doctor. I know nothing about injuries 161 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: medicine beside the ones I've had. I do believe because 162 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: I saw it with the Niners who last year. In 163 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of years have had very similar to 164 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Both teams fire doctors, trainers, strength staff, did 165 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: total overhauls. Both teams are still in shambles this year. 166 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: I do think there's a randomness to it. Like do 167 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: I think like the trainers are causing more high ankle springs. 168 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't. Again, not a doctor, just cal Poly and 169 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: a little graduate degree in Fresnel State, so you know, 170 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think anyone get me mixed up 171 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: for a Harvard medical student, but just having been around 172 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: the sport and just seeing guys go down and practice 173 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and seeing the consistency of a team like the Eagles 174 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: that I know invests a ton of money into trainers, doctors, recoveries, 175 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: all everything regard regarding health. I do think it's random. 176 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: And I know that's like, oh, you're just covering up. No, 177 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I'm just telling you. I don't 178 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: think there's any correlation with them screwing this up because 179 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: it happened all over the league. Now does it happen 180 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: more to them, yes, uh does it probably drive them crazy, 181 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: of course, But I do think there's some randomness to it, 182 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: and the one guy who's kind of been healthy in 183 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: all this, which is kind of weird, is Carson. He 184 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: played sixteen games last year, obviously got the concussion in 185 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: the playoffs, played all the games this year, and if 186 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: he got hurt, I mean, it wouldn't win a game. 187 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: They wouldn't sniffle win. So I just think sometimes when 188 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: you take a deep breath of the Wentz, look away 189 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: when he throws the crazy bone head play, but acknowledge this, dude, 190 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: if they could ever get the right pieces around him 191 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: just on the field, I think they have some of 192 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: them on their team, you'd be a star, or at 193 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: least have the chance to be a store because right 194 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: now this he's still having game winners. I get it 195 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: against the Giants, but let's just pump the brakes a 196 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: little bit on ones into the Giants. I was really 197 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: hard on Joe Judge during training camp because I think 198 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: sometimes when you do collegiate things in the pros, I 199 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: I think it's dumb. Now, there are elements to the 200 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: sport of football that it's it is a kid's game, 201 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: So there are parts of like screaming in a locker 202 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: room and just doing things that will always translate. But 203 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: when I saw that he made the coaches run. I 204 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: was like, what are you doing now? Full disclosure. I 205 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: met him at the combine through a mutual fan friend. 206 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: I went up and I know people that know him 207 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: love him, really impressed by him. I was getting a 208 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: little stationary bike ride before the game, and Charissa Thompson 209 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: did to sit down with him. He is really impressive. 210 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: There is no disputing that Joe Judge is an impressive individual. 211 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: I'll get might give him a pass for the coaches 212 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: running because since the Niner game they played the Rams. 213 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: Touff lost that game seventeen to nineteen or seventeen to nine, 214 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: but that game was really close going into the fourth quarter. 215 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: Cowboy game thirty seven to thirty four. Right in that game. 216 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: Last week Washington won at twenty and nineteen, and then 217 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: today it took a Wentz basically walk off touchdown to 218 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: beat him. The last four games, this guy's team has 219 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: played their ass off for Joe Judge. When I watched 220 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: Joe Judge's team, I think they don't have much talent. 221 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: I actually kind of like Daniel Jones. Sometimes I hate 222 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: him and then sometimes like you know what he is. 223 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: He reminds me of like pre Harborough Alex Smith. You 224 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: see some talent, you see the athleticism, and I know 225 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: he tripped tonight, but there's a lot work with their 226 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of offensive coaches would love to 227 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: work with him, you know, I think he has some 228 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: like Jared Goff, he's a way better athlete like you 229 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: don't think he'd work in like Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, 230 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: what the Packers do, like what the Titans do. If 231 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: he was in the right situation. I'm not saying he 232 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: would be like Wins. He doesn't have the physical he 233 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have a great arm, but he but he's got 234 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: some talent. He's pretty accurate when he's in rhythm. Fumbles 235 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: the ball a lot, but he also gets hit a 236 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: lot because of offensive line sucks. I'm not out on 237 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I'm not out on Joe Judge either. I 238 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: I have been impressed. His roster stinks. Dave Gettleman deserves 239 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: to be fired yesterday. One of the worst general managers 240 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: we've ever seen. I mean, just atrocious what they're getting 241 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: out of this team, the just the urgency that they 242 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: consistently play with. They've been really physical on defense and 243 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: they don't really have that much talent on defense. I mean, 244 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: they don't have a great pass rusher. The DBS are 245 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: playing well, Blake Martinez makes a ten and plays se 246 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley's out for the year, and they're they're actually 247 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: functionable on offense with Gilman and Devonte Freeman. And you know, 248 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: if Evan Ingram could catch Sterling Shepard golden tape, like, 249 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: they're not terrible. They're not terrible. Now, the overall the 250 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: game was kind of a terrible watch. But I will 251 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: tip my hat to Joe Judge and just this. I 252 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: thought the team could go in the tank early. They 253 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: could be like a winless team and they're only gonna 254 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: win three or four games, But they're gonna be one 255 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: of those four win teams. Are gonna cover a ton 256 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: of spreads there. You're gonna have to, you know, especially 257 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: in that division, that they'll they'll win another divisional game. 258 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they could beat the Cowboys or the Eagles 259 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: for sure. At the second time they play, they could 260 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: sweep Washington. But I I give that guy in my respect, 261 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: I might have been I might have been a little 262 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: harsh because just I've watched a lot of the Giants. 263 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: I don't know why the last you know, month, and uh, 264 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: they really have not flinched and they fought hard for 265 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: the coach, And to me, that's something I watched with 266 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: a really terrible team. If your team stinks, really the 267 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: only thing I can judge you on is do you 268 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: play really hard? Because you're not gonna score that many points, 269 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: You're not gonna win many games, You're not gonna make 270 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: that many sweet plays. It's just are you battling your 271 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: ass off? And when I watched the Giants, I fully 272 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: believe they're they're giving everything humanly possible. The eleven guys 273 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: that don't have that much talent relative to most of 274 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: the league are trying as hard as they can. And 275 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: that's really all I could ask for the first year 276 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: coach who inherited this roster built by one of the 277 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: dumbest gms we've ever seen, he can only do so much. 278 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: So I've been impressed with Joe Judge. I really have. Okay, 279 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: let's get into uh one of the big stories of 280 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: the week, and one one of the cool parts about 281 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: doing this at the end of the week is you know, 282 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: we get some good, meaty stuff happens Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, 283 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: even beside the Monday night in the Thursday night game 284 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: that we get to react to, and the big news 285 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: probably you know, one of the biggest I would say 286 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: announcements so far or this this season, non like Corona, 287 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: has been that Ryan Fitzpatrick has been benched and Tua 288 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: Tongua Beloa. I don't even know if I said that right. 289 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: He's called two a time to a start the starting 290 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Miami Dolphins moving forward. And I want 291 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: to dive into a couple of things. One Ryan Fitzpatrick. Listen, 292 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: we all think he's a really smart guy. He went 293 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: to Harvard, highest Wonderlick score I think in the history 294 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: of the league. Uh, he's I think a really high 295 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: character guy. People like being around him. Not the most 296 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: talented guy. Really an incredible story about perseverance. Uh, just 297 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: where effort, brains and kind of just guts overcomes talent 298 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: because he's not the most talented guy. And he's been 299 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: the league, what I mean almost fifteen years. But he 300 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: made some comments that we're I mean, just wrong. He 301 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: used an analogy that said, you know, when he was 302 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: told and I think he the way he found out 303 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: which probably is the way a lot of people find 304 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: out now in professional sports is someone told them. I 305 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: think his kid told him, because it gets tweeted out 306 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: and it goes viral fast, sometimes before the team can 307 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: tell you that. I think his kid told him. And 308 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: he said when he met with the media this week 309 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: because they're in a bye week, because the first thing 310 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: I saw when TOA was named the starters, Like, who 311 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: the hell are they planned? And then I'm like, oh, 312 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: they're playing the bye and it's not the New York Jets. 313 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: They're actually on a bye week, so no game, which 314 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: kind of sucks. I would have like to see two 315 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: A play this weekend. But Fitzpatrick claimed he's like, unlike 316 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: a lot of jobs, He's like, it's the equivalent of 317 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: being told you're fired, Yet you have to go spend 318 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: five or six hours with the human you were fired 319 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: for that being to A And I said, Uh, I 320 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: pumped the brakes on that analogy, because it's just wrong. 321 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: You were not fired when when you're fired, I've bent 322 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: that's happened to me actually multiple times. Uh. Depending on 323 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: your contract, you stopped getting paid, so being fired means 324 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: you no longer get paid. I'd imagine anyone here that's 325 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: ever been fired from a job knows the money stops, 326 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: meaning you have to go get a new job or 327 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: a new source of income. Ryan Fitzpatrick was not fired. 328 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: He was demoted, something that happens all the time in 329 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: the private sector. How many people listening to this podcast 330 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: have been either demoted, like your role at your company 331 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: was diminished, or you've been on the flip side of that, 332 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: you've taken over for a guy. I'm gonna assume we've 333 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: got a lot of smart listeners. You guys come from Colin. 334 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: This is a lot of guys have been on the 335 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: two side where you're jumping the guy. Welcome to America, buddy, Like, 336 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: you did not get fired, you were demoted. But let's 337 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: look at why he was demoted. Because I watched him 338 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: very closely two weeks ago when he came out and 339 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: played the Niners. He was awesome, and I know they've 340 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: won two games in their own they're three and three. 341 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: But he was demoted for a guy. I googled it 342 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: today before I was writing down, Like, what do I 343 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: want to talk about in regards to this topic. How 344 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: much does Tah's contract when he was drafted fifth overall. 345 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: We often say the guy was drafted really high, and 346 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: the biggest reason that those guys typically get thrust into 347 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: action sooner than later is because of their draft pick. 348 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: But not just because of the draft pick, but because 349 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: of the contract that comes with the draft pick. If 350 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: you were drafted number five overall in the two thousand 351 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: twenty NFL draft, like to a Tonga Vloa, you received 352 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: a four year, guaranteed thirty million dollar contract. If we 353 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: went best case in the fifth year option, that contract 354 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: is gonna look probably like a lot of I mean, 355 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: fifty five million dollars. Who knows what that fifth year 356 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: would be all these years out at the quarterback position. 357 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: I think it's the average like the top eight or 358 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: top ten guys at your position, So that fifth year 359 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: option would be enormous. But typically if two was good, 360 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: they would extend him before. But that's a relevant I 361 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: know for a fact the Miami Dolphins oh to a 362 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars Ryan Fitzpatrick two years ago signed an 363 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: eleven million dollar contract for two seasons. So Ryan, and 364 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: you've been in this league long enough, just like anyone 365 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: in any of the businesses you work in, and I've 366 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: been there. Like, for example, in the radio business, even 367 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: when I worked in the NFL, when we'd hire a 368 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: big exact, they are given more to do when we 369 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: bring a guy in that came from another team that 370 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: was a former GM. If I worked in radio and 371 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: we were you know, the moment the radio station that 372 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: I worked for got the Raiders, got the Warriors, we 373 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: started doing a lot for them. Like part of acquiring 374 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: too and paying them all this money was to not 375 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: only play him. And you know, if you've been listening 376 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: to me long enough, you know I think it's kind 377 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: of crazy. I would have played him immediately given that 378 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: he was healthy, and clearly he was because he dressed 379 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: every game. But Ryan, you did not get fired. You 380 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: got moded for a guy that they just drafted fifth 381 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: overall and are paying thirty million dollars over the next 382 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: four years. And here's the other kind of elephant in 383 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: the room. We've already seen the other two quarterbacks in 384 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: the draft. Now, they didn't have the ability to draft 385 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. So regardless how good Joe Burrow does, I 386 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: can't hold that over the Miami Dolphins head because they 387 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: drafted fifth and Joe Burrow went one but I do 388 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: think the other guy in Justin Herbert, who are going 389 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: to be compared moving forward, are damn This guy's already 390 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: got four games under his belt. Now, granted he hasn't 391 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: won a game, but I think we'd all agree and listen. 392 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm some Charger fan. Now, I'm a Justin 393 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: Herbert fan. I'm a Pack twelve guy, but I just 394 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for big arm athletic quarterbacks. And I 395 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear the guy's got a chance to 396 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: be a really, really good player. So I wonder, and 397 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is why they did it, but 398 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: it has to be like Herbert's making all these plays 399 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: against big time teams on Monday Night football against Tampa Bay, 400 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: can we see what our guy has be because yes, 401 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: he had a major hip injury, but he's been our 402 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: backup quarterback and he played. He got a couple of snaps. 403 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: I think he completed two balls last week against the Jets. 404 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: Throw him in the action. Yes, Fits, we know you 405 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: have done a uh commendable job as our starting quarterback. 406 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: And I think if you go back to the last 407 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: I think they won three of their last five games 408 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: and they've won three of six this year, so they've 409 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: won six of their last eleven games with him at quarterback. 410 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: He's done a really good job. We paid you eleven 411 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: million dollars because you're a high level bridge quarterback and 412 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: you're an impressive human and we think you will be 413 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: good for Tuah, whether you start or whether you're back up. 414 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: You're not getting fired. We're not cutting you. We we 415 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: wouldn't even have people called and wanted to trade for 416 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: you for like the Cowboys wanted to get you for 417 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: like a fourth round pick. We'd say, no, we value 418 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: you here. You will still get paid. But the moment 419 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: we drafted this guy fifth overall, we all knew, you 420 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: know what road this was headed down. It's I think 421 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy that I'm sitting here recording this 422 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: on October twenty second and TWA hasn't played a game yet. 423 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: I'd say that's regardless of you beat Yeah, okay, you've 424 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: upset the Niners. WOUI. No, you don't get any credit 425 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: for beating the Jets. You're an eight point favorite, So 426 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you killed him. They suck time for 427 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: Tuah and Uh. On the flip side, just of Tuah 428 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: in a vacuum. The thing that I keep coming back 429 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: to the biggest question mark I have because I have 430 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: a hard time closing my eyes and envisioning him make 431 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: the splash plays like Herbert has made. Now Herbert has 432 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: more talent to deal with, so it's gonna be a 433 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: little harder to judge TA in the immediate given that 434 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: their talents not as great around him. My question is 435 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: just durability, and sometimes I forget, like I try to 436 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: put myself back and the years of being even at 437 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: when I was at Fresno State in recruiting meetings and 438 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: in personnel meetings to the NFL personnel meetings. So I 439 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: got it. I've been in one of those meetings, you know, 440 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: when I was on the inside. You know, I still 441 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: talk to all my friends, but it's different when you're 442 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: in the meetings and you know, and truly talking about 443 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: the number one thing we talked about all the time, 444 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: way more in the NFL than in college, because once again, 445 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: at your roster, you're kind of stuck with him. And 446 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: really most high school kids, you know, maybe you recruit 447 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: a guy that's been injured, but for the most part, 448 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: they're they're pretty if you're a Division one and definitely 449 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: like a borderline Power five player. Uh, you've probably been 450 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: relatively healthy in high school. Now there are exceptions, for sure, 451 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: but in my time a frienden State, most of the 452 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: guys we recruited played every game in high school, maybe 453 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: a tweaked ankle here or there. But in NFL draft rooms, 454 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: the number one thing we talked about, besides just the 455 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: actual player. I think as a player in a vacuum 456 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: two is really good. But can they stay healthy? Is 457 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: this guy physical? Like his physical stature gonna be enough 458 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: to just last sixteen games for the next let's just 459 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: say four or five years, and that would be my 460 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: number one quote. I don't know, because just in terms 461 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: of reading defenses, he's better than Herbert. In terms of accuracy, 462 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: at least coming out of college, way better than Herbert. 463 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: Just a more natural accurate thrower. But Herberts already improved. 464 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: His deep ball is much better than I remember it being. 465 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: And part of that might just be he didn't have 466 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: that much talent around him in Oregon, which is ironic 467 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: because Oregon the majority of my life has always had 468 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: really good running backs, really good tight ends, and at 469 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: least functional wide receivers. That was not the case the 470 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: last couple of years for them. I don't think he 471 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: played with any guys that like top picks on offense, 472 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: which is crazy for that program to On the flip side, 473 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: I think we all know, right, Judy Rugs, Studs, uh 474 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: Davante Smith might be better than both of them. Waddle 475 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: could too. I mean, you're talking about four wide receivers 476 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: that probably you know, these two guys are gonna go 477 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: in the top fifteen. Two. That's four top fifteen wide receivers. 478 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm not uh, I mean, I kind of am a 479 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: draft historian, but I'm pretty sure without looking it up 480 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: or googling it, that's gotta be an NFL record. If 481 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: that happens, we'll see where these guys get drafted. But right, 482 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: I think most of us that have watched Waddle end 483 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: of ande go, yeah, the guy's probably going on the 484 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: top fift team. Right, So four guys in the top 485 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: fIF team, that's pretty nuts. And to us this to 486 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: the team he's coming to, I mean, Gasecki's solid tight end. 487 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: De Bunte Parker's actually really kind of resurrected his career. 488 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: But at ain't Judy Waddle Rugs and Smith, I'll promise 489 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: you that much. So I'm just fascinated to see if 490 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: he's got to just take the hits and over and 491 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: overtake the hits and that that, to me is the 492 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: question mark because if you can stay uh stay healthy. 493 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: I think you know the comp that I always used 494 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield that he was Drew Brees. It's proble 495 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I was off. It's probably to you know, because their 496 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: games are all similar, right, accurate, smaller guys. But as 497 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: we've seen, maturity with Baker, decision making with Baker, like 498 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: that's never been a question mark with to Saban loves him, 499 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: the program loves him. Everyone loves the guy. You know why. 500 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: He's not a screw around, not a party guy. Uh, 501 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: super focused, super hard working, so just gonna be and 502 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: he's accurate. He doesn't think he's like some great athlete 503 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: running away sometimes he I guess incology he had a 504 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: little hero ball. You would imagine that will change a 505 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: little bit after these devastating injuries. But accuracy, like he's 506 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: gotta have to play in that mold to be really successful. 507 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: And the key is to like throw the ball away 508 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: and get down when you're gonna get hit and avoid 509 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: the hits because durability right now, him staying healthy is 510 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: has got to be the number one thing. The Dolphins 511 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: are just are just worried about big picture but but 512 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: ultimately fits has no reason to be shocked. And uh, 513 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: I think it's just football fans. It's we gotta wait 514 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: a week, but it's exciting to see two a time 515 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: is actually going down. I say it all the time 516 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: around the draft. It's my favorite part about the draft 517 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: is it's really more of an economic exercise than it 518 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: is just about like picking players. The draft is all 519 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: about value, and I think player acquisition in general is 520 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: all ab out value. And I think about this all 521 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: the time when when I'm buying stocks, whenever I'm just 522 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: looking at something, or you just read an article about 523 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: this guy sold his business for fifty million dollars, or 524 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: this guy's sold his house for three million dollars. Well, 525 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: if the guy bought his house that he sold for 526 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: three million dollars for eight hundred thousand dollars, he didn't 527 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: make the profit in selling it for three million dollars. 528 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: He made the profit the day he bought it for 529 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars. You make the profit in what 530 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: you acquire the asset for, and I try to always 531 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: think about that, whether it's football stuff, whether it's business stuff, 532 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: regardless of what it is. I think that Vegas Dave 533 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: guy who sold the Mike Trout rookie card, I think 534 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: he bought it for you know, eight hundred thousand dollars 535 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars, sold it for four million dollars. He 536 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: made the profit in what he bought it for, which 537 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: is I'm not into card selling, but when I saw 538 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: that he sold a Mike troyd rookie card for four 539 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: million dollars, was like, holy shit, that's a that's a 540 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: market I know nothing about, but that's it's pretty crazy 541 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: return on investment. And the key I give the Ravens 542 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: a lot of credit. And I think the best teams 543 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: in free agency and the draft do this consistently. Their 544 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: patient and I would imagine anyone listening the best business 545 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: people you know, uh, you know a lot of people 546 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: that run their own companies, uh CEOs of companies. What 547 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be big, fortunately, I'm just talking 548 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: about successful business people. They all, I'd say most of 549 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: them are really patient, not that they're not aggressive when 550 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: it's time to strike, but they're never afraid to like 551 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: walk away. And you always heard that growing up. And 552 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: then you know, you your first couple of job offers 553 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: are like, we'll pay you a fifty thou dollars, like 554 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm in you know. Uh, you know, when you really want, 555 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: like your first car, You're like, I'll take it, you know, 556 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: and then you realize, just take a deep breath. You 557 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: know that there's there's more options. And as you age, 558 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: and I've seen it with myself, like in my twenties, 559 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: zero patients. In my thirties definitely, you know, thirty six 560 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: now I'm getting a little old. It's just it's easier 561 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: to see the bigger picture with stuff and and I'm 562 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: talking little stuff, you know. I mean, my biggest acquisitions 563 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: have been like a condo in the car, you know. 564 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: I've never you know, traded a first round pick for 565 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: a player, but I've seen it, and I've seen how 566 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Howie and those guys operate in Philly, and they always 567 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: did a good job of just not forcing things. And 568 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: Belichick is a master of this now. I I also 569 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: believe there are times when you trade a couple of 570 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: first round picks to get Khalil Mack. You know, I 571 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: thought what John Schneider did trading those picks for Jamal 572 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Adams was really bold. But I also understand it, like 573 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: they're in the mold of trying to win Super Bowl 574 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: in these next couple of years with the Pika Russell Wilson. 575 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: But the Ravens, who are kind of in this weird spot, 576 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: like their team was stacked. They got Lamar and a 577 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: rookie contract there. They knew coming into the season they 578 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: were gonna be a double digit win team that they're 579 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: only getting judged now on January. How they play in 580 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs, right, that's all we know. They're gonna kick 581 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: ass in the regular season. We'll see the Steeler games 582 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: are gonna be are gonna be tight, but like their 583 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: teams loaded, but they can make incremental moves, and clearly 584 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: they were in on Yannick in doc way. The Jaguars 585 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: path as rusher with the Vikings when that trade was 586 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: going down, and ultimately the Vikings got him for a 587 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: second rounder. The Vikings, who I understood making the trade 588 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: even though it was a disastrous move. I equated it 589 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: in twitter of they paid one point two million dollars 590 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: for a one million dollar house. And then the Ravens 591 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: were able to come when they traded a third round 592 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: pick for this guy and buy the house for five 593 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: grand because they were patient and they waited. Now, some 594 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: stuff was out of their control, and that's part of 595 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: I think any of you guys that are listening, no, 596 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: that the part of being patient in business which makes 597 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: it possible is knowing like things that are out of 598 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: your control, Like you never know what's gonna happen a 599 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: lot of the times, like the best case scenario goes 600 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, and then that stuff becomes available again, 601 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: and the Ravens this guy became available again for a 602 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: third round pick. Well, their third round pick clearly is 603 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: going to be at the end of the third round. 604 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: And if they don't resign this guy, he's gonna get 605 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: huge money on the open market. And what does that mean? 606 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: They would get a pencentry third round pick. So you 607 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: could argue the Ravens are basically giving up a fifth 608 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: round pick, maybe five six seven slots in the in 609 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: the third round to the compensatory round to make this deal. 610 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: It's really not that much. Were the vikings. I've heard 611 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: great things about Rick Spielman. I actually have a lot 612 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: of respect for him. I think he's a really good GM. 613 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: This was a disastrous move for him. He gave up 614 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: a second round pick. It turns out his team sucks. 615 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: That means that pick is going to be in the 616 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: top forty. That's a top forty NFL draft pick. He 617 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: gave a top forty NFL draft pick and received pick, 618 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: let's just hypothetically say eighty nine back. So instead of 619 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: having picked thirty nine, he has picked eighty nine because 620 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: there's not the player anymore. That's a disaster. And the 621 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: Ravens benefited because they took a deep breath, they were patient, 622 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: and they just left things that were out of their 623 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: control take shape take place, and then they pounced. And 624 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: it's just a good life lesson. And it's why the 625 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: Ravens listen. I'm gonna bet against them in the playoffs, 626 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: and I maybe turned out to be wrong, right, I'm 627 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: just gonna strictly bet against I've seen it two years now, 628 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: I've seen it against the Chiefs. I'm fascinated to watch 629 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: them against the Steelers. Uh, but I'm gonna bet against them. 630 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they won't win. I would be. I'd 631 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: be really surprised. I don't think they can win the 632 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: a f C actually because unless the Chiefs got knocked 633 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: ou because if they play the chief Chiefs or beating him, 634 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: we'll have to see how they look against the Steelers. 635 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: But like I actually saw I'm play the Titans last year, 636 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: they got their ass kicked. The Titans right now are 637 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: really good. But I have never disputed they're a great 638 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: regular season team, and I mean there will be. You know, 639 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a home playoff game, so let's just 640 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: even hypothetically say they win a playoff game. You know, 641 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a step forward for them. But they're trying 642 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl this year and they're trying 643 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: to get over the hump with the Chiefs, and clearly 644 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult for them the way their offense 645 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: operates sometimes when they get down to come back, so 646 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: what's the best way to get after my homes or 647 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: even Tanny Hill rush the pastor rush the pastor And 648 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: adding this guy is a huge move for them. I 649 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: have nothing but respect for the way their front office 650 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: played this and uh, I'm still leary of their playoffs 651 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: success again, I've never argued that the Ravens aren't a 652 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: twelve win team. Hell, if they beat split with the Steelers, 653 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: they might win fourteen games like they did last year. 654 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: Like I'm not, I'm not arguing that. I just think 655 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: that when you run that kind of rinky dink offense, 656 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: which again it's not rinky dink in the in the 657 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: regular season, it kicks the ship out of people. They 658 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: run circles around the people in the in the regular season. 659 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: It works. In the playoffs, it doesn't. It's just that's 660 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: not that's at this point in time, with the information 661 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: we have, that's not arguable. That's a fact. Now I 662 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: could be proven wrong. It might work. I'll keep betting 663 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: against it. But they got better today. I'll give him that. Okay, 664 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: let's uh, let's talk about a college player. And I 665 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: think the guy getting all the hype, and rightfully so, 666 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: is Trevor Lawrence. He's kind of the Andrew luck Um. 667 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of another guy recent in recent 668 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: memory that was like a no brainer number one overall 669 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: pick going into the season. The probably hasn't been one, 670 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: right because the year Kyler went, we didn't know about Kyler. 671 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: The year Baker went and no one saw that coming. 672 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: Burrow went, no one saw that coming. Um, it's probably 673 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: since like luck that it was just we've been talking 674 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: about this guy for a couple of years. He's gonna 675 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: go number one overall. So Trevor Lawrence is going number 676 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: one overall, but there's another guy that I think has 677 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: a chance this season to solidify himself as the number 678 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: two overall pick. And full disclosure, I didn't watch that 679 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: much Ohio State last year. I mean I watched them 680 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: like they were on TV, but I didn't really watch 681 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. I didn't watch him like I have Trevor 682 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: Lawrence over the years like I have to uh Herbert 683 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: the wide receiver's Obama. Like from an NFL perspective, I 684 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: just don't really watch a house state like that typically. 685 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: And I don't have a great fuel for him right now. 686 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean I go on YouTube and looking at strengths 687 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: and weaknesses, and I mean, helly through forty one touchdowns 688 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: last year he had ten rushing touchdowns. The stats are awesome, 689 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: and that that season is talking to people in the 690 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: league like there are still people want to see him 691 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: play this year. He has a lot to gain, which 692 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: is crazy for a guy to finish third in the 693 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. That you know, I think we all consider 694 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: a top ten pick. But I think he can have 695 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: a season and just in terms of his play progressions, accuracy, 696 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: just put it in sharpie, I'm the number two overall 697 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: pick in this draft because the number one thing he's 698 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: gonna have going for him. And I haven't been in 699 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: these draft rooms and knowing the way these guys think, 700 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: I felt like he was the number one leader besides 701 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: like the coaches, you know, Scott Frost, Ryan Day, Harbaugh, 702 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: James Franklin, of just really wanting to come back. I 703 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: don't think any play. Probably pros included felt like they 704 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: wanted to play more than justin fields. And I respect 705 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: the hell out of him for that. Just constantly tweeting, 706 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: constantly doing everything he could with his platform. Now I'm 707 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: not saying that that had like some major impact on anything. 708 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it didn't either, but I do think 709 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: he wanted he wanted to play. And one question that 710 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: gets consistently asked in draft rooms to scouts, because you know, 711 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like to get a job 712 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: at Google or some pharmaceutical company or even like Wall Street. 713 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: I would imagine this this question comes up, like how 714 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: much do you like selling stocks? Or how much do 715 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: you like coding? At the end of the day, most 716 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: twenty two year olds coming out of college, you know, 717 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: even I guess on the high end, would be making 718 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: like a hunder grand I mean, let's let's be real. 719 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: Most people are gonna make between like fifty and seventy 720 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: five grand starting salary out of college. So you're not 721 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: investing that much in football? Why you do so much 722 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: scouting of the individual when they're a good player, Because, 723 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: like I said about twa, they gave him a four year, 724 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 1: thirty million dollar contract. You're gonna pay if you draft 725 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: justin fields number two overall probably thirty five million dollars. 726 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: The number one question I'm gonna ask once I value 727 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: his skill, which I'm actually you know, I think he's 728 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: gonna be good. I'm actually gonna just assume he has 729 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: a huge season. I know that he loves football. He 730 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: showed me all he wanted to do was play football, 731 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: so that we're not even gonna have to check that box, 732 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: like that box already checked. How much does UH if 733 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: my GM, how much does UH Justin Fields love football. 734 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: Check out his check out his Twitter account. During the pandemic, 735 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: he was all in. So it's just gonna come down 736 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: to his play. And he's on a stack team, on 737 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: a team that any Ohio State fan listening, I'm sure 738 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: would just reading stuff about the program like this is 739 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna be one of their better teams of the last decade. 740 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: And clearly they've had some pretty free, can good teams, right, 741 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a program since Urban showed up 742 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: has basically been Bama right in Clemson like they've been. 743 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: You just think of the last decade, like the three 744 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: best programs have been Bama, Ohio State, Clemson definitely the 745 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: last seven eight years. And you know, who knows, maybe 746 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: Justin Fields could outplay Trevor Lawrence. Maybe he could outplay 747 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: Bama and in the playoffs, those games are gonna really 748 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: really help him. I don't think I would never say 749 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: never that he couldn't jump Trevor Lawrence because maybe he 750 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: just becomes an elite player, you know, just on every 751 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: just in terms of like reading defenses, comebacks. When I 752 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: say comebacks, like leads the team back a couple of times, 753 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, throws for historic amount of touchdowns. Who knows. 754 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: I would never say never. It feels unlikely, but I 755 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: I definitely think he could really get the sharpie pen 756 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: out and write it on the wall on the number 757 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: two overall pick and then also leave a little comment 758 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: on the bottom Jacksonville Jaguars. Don't you dare pick me? 759 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: Because that's what I would say if I was him 760 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: or his parents. No, we are not going to Jacksonville, 761 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: but we are going to be the number two overall pick, 762 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: and we're open for business. Let's go. Okay, let's get 763 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: in three for the money. If I was eight and 764 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: four going into last week, Bears plus one and a 765 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: half winner, nine and four Steelers minus three and a 766 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: half winner, ten and four Eagles plus eight for the 767 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: Ravens winner, that's eleven and four. Where is that now? 768 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: That'd be Yeah, we do redo my math. I was 769 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: eating four one all three. Yeah, I'm not a math major. 770 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: Eleven and four. I also gave away a little sleeper 771 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: pick last week, my fourth one Niners. We're gonna add 772 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: that on. I'm twelve and four. Somehow, I'm losing all 773 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: my bets because I don't even follow my own advice. 774 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: But here we go. Again eleven and four. Technically, if 775 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: you count my niner, little little sprinkle, twelve and four. 776 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: People ask me this all the time, and I I've 777 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: been gambling. I'm thirty six. I've been sneaking into Uh. 778 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: In California, we have these things called Indian casinos. It's 779 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: for some reason they have the market corner. They're only allowed, uh, 780 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: you know, to have They're allowed to have casinos in California. 781 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: No one else can. They're not sports books, only cards. 782 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: So like when I was sixteen seventeen, I used to 783 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: have a fake I D that said I was eighteen, 784 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: and sometimes they wouldn't card you, and I just go 785 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: play blackjacks. I've been gambling, you know, for about twenty years. 786 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: I love the gamble, and I've been sports gambling. My 787 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: first big sports bet was probably like my junior senior 788 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: year in college. Actually want a bunch of money. I've 789 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: told the story before on the the the Eli manning 790 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: team that upset the Patriots, and me and my roommate 791 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: put it combined like three grand, which is equivalent now 792 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 1: of like three grand, and uh we took I think 793 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: the I think the Giants were like plus twelve and 794 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: a half or plus thirteen. I'll never forget. I watched 795 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: I was house sitting for a friend during Christmas break 796 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: in week seventeen. The Giants played that undefeated Patriot team 797 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: and they almost beat him. Randy Moscott this touchdown down 798 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: the down the sideline, and I just remember thinking like, 799 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: this matches up pretty well. And I convinced my roommate Trent, 800 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: we both did it. We both want some money. It 801 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: was sweet, and I've been kind of addicted ever since. Now. 802 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: Addicted would be strong because I I don't gamble like 803 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: I pick and choose like sometimes I'm in the mood 804 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: and other times or not, because you can lose. You know, 805 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm hot right now. But again, I don't even follow 806 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: my own games. I'm betting on all these other crazy games. 807 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm losing, so you know, you gotta be careful. People 808 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: ask me. I think sometimes with the gambling, lingo is 809 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: in the mix, and people like, what does you know? 810 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: I think people don't quite understand when you see a 811 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: team that's like plus seven right and their minus one 812 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: ten is people are gonna listen to me like, John, 813 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: are you really explaining this is remedial? Yeah, Because I 814 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: don't think everyone quite knows. For those of us that 815 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: have been in the gambling world in the vernacular and 816 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, paid some bookies on some some wire transfers 817 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: over the years, we know. But I do think there 818 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: are a lot of people new to this, and I 819 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: think it's cool to be inclusive with gambling. I'm in 820 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: bet of gambling companies. I want more people to gamble, 821 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: so I'm fine with it. There was once a point 822 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: in time in my life I didn't quite understand if 823 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: you get plus anything. If you're plus ten, you start 824 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 1: the game up ten points and usually you gotta bet 825 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: hundred and ten you get minus one ten like you 826 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: gotta bet a big so you gotta put ten dollars 827 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: to win a hundred. That's why betting underdogs can be 828 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: really lucrative. One of my second biggest bets of everyone 829 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: is when I went to the Super Bowl UH in 830 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, the Denver Broncos against the Carolina Panthers. 831 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: I was working in radio at the time. Now I 832 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: remember it was. It was in San Francisco Radio Row, 833 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: and the players were all and I remember seeing so 834 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: many Carolina Panthers. I feel like an insider trader and 835 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: just they were screwing around. Remember Josh Norman came into 836 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: the to the set at Comcast where I was working, 837 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: and he was just like I was like, God, I 838 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: don't think these guys are that focused. Roman Harper I remember, 839 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: had the gray hair and they were all just screwing around. 840 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: And I never saw any of the Broncos. I'm like, God, there, 841 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: they gotta be pretty locked and loaded. And I had 842 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: seen the Bronco team live for several years because I 843 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: had been working doing Raiders pre in post, so I 844 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: knew how good their defense was. And I thought the 845 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: Carolina was good too. But I put a lot of 846 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: money on the Denver Broncos. They were a huge underdog 847 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: in that game. I think it was like four or 848 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: five and a half maybe points, maybe four or four 849 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: and a half five, and it was almost two to 850 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: one odds to better money line. So when you see 851 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: a team is like plus two fifty, that's that basically 852 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: means you just put two point five. So if you've 853 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: bet a hundred, you're gonna win two hundred fifty dollars. 854 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: So if you put a hundred in, you're gonna have 855 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: three fifty in the pot. When it's all said and done. 856 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: I like betting under ducks because I do think there 857 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: are a good value in talented underducks. It's why for 858 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: the World Series I listen. I'm one of the rare millennials. 859 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: I watched a decent amount of baseball, and I think 860 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: the Rays are really good and their bullpen is incredible. Now, 861 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: the Dodgers are the best team, by my just in 862 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: terms of baseball, but if you have a good pitching 863 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: in baseball, you have a shot. And the Rays were 864 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: enormous underdogs going into this series. They were like plus 865 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: one seventy, meaning if you bet a hundred dollars, you 866 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: win a hundred seventy. If you bet a thousand dollars, 867 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: you know you'd win seventeen hundred. So I think it's 868 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: pretty good value. And I didn't put any money on 869 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: it because I was like, especially at the first games, 870 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: like damn Mookie. But then you see they bounce right 871 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: back in one second game. I'm telling you that the 872 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 1: Rays are pretty good underdog play. But this is football podcast, 873 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: so let's talk about three for the money. I'm gonna 874 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: start with the Lions against the Falcons. Clearly, when you 875 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: fire a coach, you always get an inspired effort that 876 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: next week, and the Falcons uh finally got up the 877 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: schneide last week. I think they come back to earth 878 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: and it was crazy to think about is I think 879 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 1: most if you just asked, like, what about the Detroit Lions, 880 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: everyone be like, Oh, they suck? What about the Detroit Lions? 881 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: Oh they suck. What's their record? Like one and one 882 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: in six? They gotta be really awful. They're actually two 883 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: and three coming off a bye. They beat the Falcons, 884 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: They're three and three and in the playoff mix. It's crazy. 885 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: It sounds like they are in the playoff mix. Matt 886 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: Stafford is good. His offensive weapons are good. Now is 887 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: the Lions defense great? No? But I don't think Matt right. 888 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan is just Matt Julio is banged up. 889 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: I just I don't believe in the Falcons at all. 890 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: I think the Lions are great underdog play plus two 891 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: and a half. I'd also sprinkle a little money line 892 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: bills minus twelve and a half. I heard someone say 893 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,879 Speaker 1: this week the Jets have yet to cover a game. 894 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: So not only are they oh in six, they're own 895 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: six against the spread. That means every one of their 896 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: lines plus ten plus fifteen whatever during the week. You know, 897 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: over those six games, they have not covered a game. Now, 898 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what in the NFL record is. I 899 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: do think there's a chance they don't cover one spread 900 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: this week. Now. Flacco is back to the bench, and 901 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: it looks like Sam Donald's gonna play. The Bills are 902 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: coming off probably their worst loss in a in a 903 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: couple of years. I mean, they got just smantled by 904 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs at home. They got tossed around on defense. 905 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: Clyde ran it down their throat, Josh Allen was off. 906 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: This is a get right game. I think the Bills 907 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: easily score over thirty points. So if you gotta win 908 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: by thirteen points, how did the Jets score seventeen? I'll 909 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: tell you they don't. This is my favorite game of 910 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: the week. Bills minus twelve and a half forty Niners Patriots. 911 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: I just don't think the Patriots are very good. I 912 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: have nothing but respect for Bill Belichick. I think he's 913 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 1: the best coach. Ever, his roster just stinks. His roster 914 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: just stinks. They don't have much talent on offense. Who's 915 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 1: the most talented offensive weapon? Julian Edelman I love Julian Edelman. 916 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: I have nothing but admiration respect for he's a champion. 917 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: He's not that good anymore. You know his hands are 918 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 1: hit or miss a little slower. Uh. Nikil Harry, I'm 919 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: I might have missed on Nickiel Harry. He might just 920 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: not be good defensively. Belichick does a good job as 921 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: long as he can just scheme wise. They don't really 922 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,879 Speaker 1: of the horses on defense they've had in the last 923 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: five or six years. Gilmore still good. You look at 924 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: the forty Niners team, Jimmy's been shitty like that's you 925 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: can't dispute that Jimmy Garoppolo has not been good. They 926 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: have so much more talent than the Patriots, though, and 927 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots just to be in a game, have to 928 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: keep the game in the teens. I would think that 929 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: the Niners can get to points. Plus the Niners are 930 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: under ducks. I don't Cam Newton has not played well 931 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Now in defense he got Corona, 932 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 1: he missed a game, but really since the game uh 933 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 1: Week two against Seattle, that Sunday night game. Check his numbers, 934 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: he hasn't been very accurate and I will defend Cam. 935 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: You know on this uh in the sense of his 936 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: white receivers, are they good? Like? It's just the Niners 937 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: can stop the run. I like the forty Niners plus two, 938 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: So I'm going Lions plus two and a half Bills 939 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 1: minus twelve and a half Niners plus two. I actually 940 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: put fifty bucks on a little Lions forty Niners money 941 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 1: line part lay. It paid out almost four to one. 942 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,959 Speaker 1: So you know, if you want to get a little bold, 943 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: and I'd like to get a little bold, take a 944 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: little take a couple of underdogs. Okay, let's uh, let's 945 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: bang out a couple of Middlecoff mail bad questions. It's 946 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: getting late, so I'm just gonna do a couple. I 947 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: will get to all these questions. I know. I got 948 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,479 Speaker 1: about fifteen in the hopper over the next seven days, 949 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: So Monday's or Tuesday's podcast, next Friday's podcast, I answer 950 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: a lot manually. If you've left questions, I will get 951 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: to them, I promise. Also, if you have questions at 952 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Instagram, dm me and I'll answer it here. 953 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: Would you even touch tonight's game? I'd like to see 954 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles win, but with all the injuries on the 955 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: money line for the Giants. Yeah, I'd take the Eagles. 956 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: See nailed that one. Uh No, I I did not 957 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: bet the game. I would not have bet the game 958 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: just based on Yeah, I would not have bet the game. 959 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: So if you would have taken the Giants, you would 960 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: have been feeling pretty good that last drive. What do 961 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: you make the log jam at quarterback that we are 962 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: experience currently, Sure, the old guys will fade out and 963 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: create openings, but I feel like they are more coming 964 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: in than leaving. Feel to me like Donald's and the 965 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 1: Bakers of the world could be backups. Yeah. I don't 966 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: think it's out of the realm of possibility at all. Uh. 967 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 1: You know, you look at this quarterback class. Trevor Lawrence 968 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: gonna be a starting quarterback, Justin Field is gonna be 969 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback, the kid oft by us making plays 970 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: keep an eye on the the I mean not, we 971 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: can't even watch them. But the North Dakota State Trey 972 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: Lance gonna be a first rounder. Obviously, all the guys 973 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: have been first rounders. Justin Herbert to uh Borrow. Well, yeah, 974 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: it's just it's never been easier to play quarterback, right. 975 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: All the seven on seven leagues, the rules you can't 976 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: hit the quarterback. So I I just think the influx. 977 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: I think how many wide receivers we've seen the last 978 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: five years come in there. You're like, damn, that dude sweet, 979 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: Damn that guy is sweet. And then you turn on 980 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: Alabama You're like, well they got two dudes. You turn 981 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: on Clempson, You're like, they gotta dude. You turn on 982 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: Ohio State, You're like, they gotta dude. I mean, they're 983 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: just dudes everywhere. Quarterbacks, wide receivers. If you're in the 984 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: league right now, you better bust your ass because every 985 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: dudes coming for your spot. You tell it like it is, 986 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: like the podcast. Appreciate it. What's your favorite moment in 987 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 1: sports that really put your attention on that sport. I 988 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: think for me, it was when Matt Stafford got a 989 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: shoulder broken against the Browns and still tossed the game 990 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: winning touchdown. Wow, that's a good question. I don't know 991 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 1: if I have one of those. I remember just watching 992 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: NFL films and Ammon Smith telling the story. It was 993 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: either like or ninety three when he played in the 994 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: NFC championship game or a playoff. It might have been 995 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: a playoff, just like the divisional round with a separated shoulder, 996 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: and it was like damn, so it would be something 997 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: like that, some injury guys playing through it. I remember 998 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: being young and Jerry Rice Bryant Young, I remember got 999 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: his leg snapped. Remember Bryant Young on Monday Night football, 1000 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: probably like ninety seven or ninety eight, Lake snapped in 1001 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: half and they put a rod and he came back 1002 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: and he was still good like a year later. I 1003 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: was a big Niner guy growing up, but I just 1004 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: remember like, damn, that guy's career is over and there's 1005 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: like nope. Remember breaking a toe and going into my doctor, 1006 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: who's longtime Raiders doctor, and I was like I was 1007 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: doing like radio at the time, and I'm like, Doc, 1008 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: if if I was the right tackle, could I go 1009 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: this week? And he looked at me, He's like, of course, 1010 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: guys play with that all the time. And I could 1011 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: barely walk. So I I had nothing but respect for 1012 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: the for the pain that these guys endure to play 1013 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: the sport. Broken shoulders, broken elbows, broken fingers, knees hips, feet, 1014 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: I mean shit, I mean I get I get sore 1015 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: playing golf. That's why we left football. It's why I 1016 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: think we have the ultimate respect for the game. You know, 1017 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: I think football baseball was America's past time. I think 1018 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: football now represents everything that we see in America. Meritocracy. Uh, 1019 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: you get replaced if you don't get the job done. Uh. 1020 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: It's got a physical anti intellect will element. It encompasses 1021 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: everything mental toughness, physical toughness, gambling. We like to gamble. Uh. 1022 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: We like to just enjoy ourselves. We like to watch 1023 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: physical violence and we always have Uh. But we also 1024 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: like the tactician element from the coaches. It's just the 1025 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: ultimate that there's a reason it's running circles around every 1026 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: The sport's got the most drama. Uh, it's the best. Okay, 1027 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: last question. With the comeback that we've seen from Cam 1028 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: so far, and he has reminded everyone how good he 1029 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: can be, well, pump the brakes a little bit. There 1030 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: are there any other teams that would be interested in 1031 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: signing for the next season. I'm thinking the Browns, possibly 1032 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: the Giants and Jets would be great places for him 1033 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: until they get a franchise quarterback. I think we just 1034 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 1: my take on Cam and I was really impressed early 1035 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: and it's hard for me to judge him when he 1036 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: got coronavirus, and I'll even give him a pass. Last 1037 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: week he didn't even practice. I do think just we 1038 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: just gotta keep an eye on him for the next 1039 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: couple of months. Like is he throwing every game a 1040 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 1: hundred fifty yards? I think everyone including myself, like, oh, 1041 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: he's gonna get you know, eighty million dollars? Like are 1042 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: we sure? Like the last question asked like we've never 1043 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 1: seen more quarterbacks coming in the league. Why wouldn't you 1044 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: draft a guy? I say it all the time about 1045 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon. If you don't like Jimmy Garoppolo, you don't 1046 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: need to go get Kirk Cousins or Matt Matt Ryan. 1047 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: We don't need their thirty million dollar contracts. If I'm 1048 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 1: John Lynch, run the Niners. Go draft a guy in 1049 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: the second round. Go find your Russell Wilson, Go find 1050 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: your Dak Prescott. We talk about value all the time 1051 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: on the show, because there's that's the best value. If 1052 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: I find a second or third round quarterback, he's making 1053 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: nine grand and I got him on a contract. I 1054 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: don't want to get one of these older guys, even Cam, Like, 1055 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: are we sure? I just I need to watch him. 1056 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 1: I need more evidence. And it might be hard with 1057 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: him throwing to Jacoby Myers and Nakil Harry, but throwing 1058 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: for a hundred fifty yards a game doesn't make me 1059 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 1: feel that great. Why why can't I just find Mac 1060 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 1: Jones from Alabama in the third round? Can he do 1061 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: that for seven thousand dollars instead of paying and someone million? 1062 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, especially the salary cap is gonna go down? 1063 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: Value value, value value? What changed? Seattle Forever got Russell 1064 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 1: Wilson in the third round. The Cowboys, I know they 1065 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,760 Speaker 1: didn't win any playoff games, but they made the playoffs. 1066 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: What to two or four years with Dak Prescott and 1067 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: basically we're, you know, in the playoff race till Week seventeen. 1068 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: Both the other times with a guy making you know, 1069 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: a million dollars a year. That's what I want. If 1070 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm a team looking for a quarterback, draft a guy. 1071 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: If I if I can't get a guy in the 1072 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: first round, find a guy in the middle rounds. Not 1073 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: middle rounds, but like high second day. It does feel 1074 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 1: like the next couple of years it's gonna be a 1075 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks coming out. Utilize that draft baby, appreciate 1076 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: everyone listening. Again, you gotta subscribe Three and Out podcast. 1077 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: Appreciate if you could leave a review. Thanks everyone for listening. 1078 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 1: Um and yeah, have a great weekend college football. For 1079 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 1: all my Big ten people, You're back, baby, it's cool. 1080 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: Props to Justin Fields for getting that done. Props at 1081 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: Frost Harbaugh, Ryan Day, everyone for pushing through. I'm glad 1082 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 1: pro football from the beginning, not pro football, but I'm 1083 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: pro football coming back. I'm glad it did so. I 1084 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: love the SEC. I'm in the Big ten for some reason. 1085 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 1: The Pack twelve is still like three weeks away. I 1086 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: don't quite understand what's going on, but is what it is, 1087 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, So have a great weekend. Talk to everyone soon. Godspeed. 1088 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: M