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Speaker 1: Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star. Now your hosts, Darry Church, Tacma Harrison, and

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Speaker 1: Uie Scruggs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come on in here, Come on in here. It

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Speaker 4: is the Players Lounge. Good morning, Cowboy Nation, and welcome

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Speaker 4: to the Players Lounge, live from the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 3: Taj my Hall of.

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Speaker 4: Football and they call him of your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: You are now rocking with the best I am.

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Speaker 4: Heck Ma Harrison, the truth and at the desper Normal

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Speaker 4: are the players. My man Barry Church in the building.

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Speaker 4: Ja Montrey Moore is in the building. He hes around here.

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Speaker 3: He's watching the show. He was, he watched the show.

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Speaker 3: He was here yesterday. He took him out. Was the

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Speaker 3: media match was so good and it took him out.

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Speaker 3: It took him out. Bron got to arrest, took him out.

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Speaker 5: Lebron gotta take his breaks.

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Speaker 3: Men and watching manager.

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Speaker 4: But god, this is your first time with me hosting

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Speaker 4: the show. So you gotta understand when I host the show,

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Speaker 4: when I get because it'll happen here and there, I'll

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Speaker 4: get an opportunity to host the show and we live.

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Speaker 4: I do my thing, but I will tell you. I

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Speaker 4: will tell you this before we get into any of

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Speaker 4: the particulars coaching higher. I know y'all want to talk

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Speaker 4: about it. I know y'all been venting for a few days.

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Speaker 4: Now the MIC's alive. We don't have to sit. You

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Speaker 4: don't got to get that paragraph in the half.

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Speaker 5: And the fact that I said the paragraph happy text basics, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, right, he got a lot. He gotta get off.

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Speaker 4: But before we get started, what I always do, man,

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Speaker 4: I check in when my brothers, I check in on

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Speaker 4: your mentals, see how you doing, how you feeling? And

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Speaker 4: so this is your first time. Man, I'm gonna start

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Speaker 4: with you, brother, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Man? If we keeping it a buck, we are, It's been.

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Speaker 3: It's been. It's been tough for me.

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Speaker 5: It's been tough for me just mentally, just battling through

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Speaker 5: the things that I got off the field, you know,

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Speaker 5: letting go of the game that I love that was

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Speaker 5: so recent. It's a freshman. So you know, being here

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Speaker 5: on the players lounge, you know it helps. But like

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Speaker 5: I said, uh, I be remiss if I say, hey,

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Speaker 5: I don't have bad days, but guess what those bad

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Speaker 5: days turned into good days bad So I'm good right now.

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Speaker 5: Facts and hey man, you're in a good place with

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Speaker 5: good brothers, and so that's why we make sure we

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Speaker 5: start like that to find out what's going on at

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Speaker 5: any time that you have anything like that. Brother, me

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Speaker 5: and you are new to each other, but my line

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Speaker 5: is always open. Hit my line if it's just, hey man,

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Speaker 5: need to get to the show. Let's get a bill

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Speaker 5: of something. We could do that. Let me don't let

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Speaker 5: me send a paragraph and you only send me. Won't

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Speaker 5: worry though coming back down. See that's a different story.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing one hundred BC. Let me start with you things.

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Speaker 5: A good thing's a good man.

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Speaker 6: It's a little cold, so your man can't get out

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Speaker 6: there swinging clubs like I usually do.

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Speaker 3: But other than that, you what now you know? Opened

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Speaker 3: up here, we're good, whole thing, tafe place, safe place, place,

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Speaker 3: got my go for part of that. We good.

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Speaker 6: Everything else been good man, family is good people healthy,

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Speaker 6: so can't complain too much.

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Speaker 3: It's been all good man. How about yourself?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell I'm gonna keep it one hundred, since

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Speaker 4: we were in the business of people at one hundred.

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Speaker 4: I started this year and I said for my son.

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Speaker 4: Y'all know, my son going into a senior year, and

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Speaker 4: I'm doing everything to motivate this young man. I told myself,

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Speaker 4: I said, Hagma, I know you are used to being

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Speaker 4: in this gym with this boy telling him what to do,

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Speaker 4: but you need to get down on these weights too.

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Speaker 4: And so since the beginning of the year, every morning,

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Speaker 3: It's okay, consistently, that's what working limit limits. Hey, let

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Speaker 3: me be honest with y'all. Right now, dog, I heard

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Speaker 3: so I'm gonna be out y'all listen, this is real talk.

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Speaker 4: If somebody got down, I'm talking about like brought some

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Speaker 3: Say you got it, you got it, got it? You

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Speaker 3: got it? Yeah, you got it. Don't stand up. You

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Speaker 3: better stand tall like a tree. Got me help the bell.

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Speaker 4: You have no idea the pain I feel now. I'm

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Speaker 4: making noises walking down, so I'm making noises up.

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Speaker 3: Step open. I can't get in the car right. I

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Speaker 4: I called a cramp driving I'm driving, called a cramp

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Speaker 4: in my house.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, help me, you know what.

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Speaker 4: And the thing is, as a dad, you gotta be

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Speaker 4: in there and you got to act like it don't

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Speaker 4: affect you.

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Speaker 3: Five on that baby, I should not have done, but.

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Speaker 4: My wife got my support. So my wife is telling me,

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Speaker 4: by stay in the game.

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Speaker 3: You're good.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, man, I'm glad to know that all of

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Speaker 4: y'all good. I'm good man, And look, let's get this

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Speaker 4: thing started. It's been it's been a week, and I

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Speaker 4: think names have come up that I don't think either

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Speaker 4: of us nobody. We went around the table last last Thursday,

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Speaker 4: and we talked about names that we thought the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: should interview. Some of those names are already off the list.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Glynn, which was myp it's gone. He's now the

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Speaker 4: Jets head coach. Yeah, you knew he was here at

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Speaker 4: Newly Aggie isn't. Yeah, so he's he's the Jets head coach.

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Speaker 4: Jets hire him without hiring a general manager first. But okay,

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Speaker 4: never heard, but that means he gets his say though.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's open ground. Maybe it's a spin. I'm

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Speaker 4: like that, it's a different spin, spin.

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Speaker 3: Dark spin.

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Speaker 4: You don't see if that sticks. But but the names

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, out of the blue, Roan Schottenhammer's.

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Speaker 3: Name, team rolling and the ticking up.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And and the weird part about it for me

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Speaker 4: is like when you let go on Mike McCarthy and

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Speaker 4: you say this team needs overhauled culture, all of those things,

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Speaker 4: and Brian Schottenhammer's name comes up and he is a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, it definitely is.

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Speaker 5: Those were my settlements when I started to hear the

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Speaker 5: rumblings about it. But one let me let me apologize

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Speaker 5: because since we already talked about the chat.

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Speaker 3: I did disrespect this this man.

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Speaker 5: I said, hey, like, I'm not familiar and I actually

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Speaker 5: had the privilege of being on the same team as

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Speaker 5: him when he was at Seattle, So to say that,

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Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, let me go, you know, hit

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Speaker 5: up some former players and stuff like that, and like

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Speaker 5: the things that I'm hearing about him, Hey man, it sounds.

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Speaker 3: Like they might have made the right decision.

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Speaker 5: So oh go ahead, hey man, what they say you.

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Speaker 3: Got to leave one more? But no, I need to

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Speaker 3: say that one. I apologize.

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Speaker 5: But for people to say that he is a leader

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Speaker 5: amongst men anybody that was on that coach Carroll staff,

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Speaker 5: you couldn't just fake it.

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Speaker 3: You had to have You had to.

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Speaker 5: Exuperate energy from Ken Norton going at the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 5: to everybody going back at each other.

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Speaker 3: They have that competition fact there.

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Speaker 5: But you have to throw in that he was there

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Speaker 5: when Russell Wilson had his best career. Then obviously he

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Speaker 5: was here last year with Dak having an All Pro season,

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Speaker 5: and so a lot of these guys and one guy

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Speaker 5: that I can put a name on, Richard Sherman, talked

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Speaker 5: about his schemes schematic wise, he's one of the best

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Speaker 5: that's out there.

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Speaker 3: For all the players that you hear.

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Speaker 5: Nobody from Seattle saying anything negative about him and have

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Speaker 5: great things to say in a locker room that has

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Speaker 5: historically have had the brightest and the most strongest of

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Speaker 5: personalities from the head coach to their players.

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Speaker 3: And for him to stand on his own man.

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Speaker 5: That's that's high praises in my opinion, And so that's

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Speaker 5: the main thing we said with coming to America's team,

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Speaker 5: can you find a leader amongst men? And right now

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Speaker 5: all I'm hearing is that he's a great guy. And

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Speaker 5: then you got to remember who his dad is, the

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Speaker 5: being around ball since he was little, being raised his

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Speaker 5: dad is are you know, one of the tops in

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Speaker 3: Man? The ceiling is right for him.

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Speaker 5: And some of the players even say they're surprised that

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Speaker 5: he hasn't been a head coach already. So for players

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Speaker 5: to say stuff like that, I'm excited to hear about it.

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Speaker 4: Brian Schottenhamer's father, Marty coach twenty one years, only had

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Speaker 4: two losing seasons as a head coach, and that is

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Speaker 3: See your thoughts on it, well.

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Speaker 6: You know, like like what you said it was you

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Speaker 6: know because like when you you know, broke it down

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Speaker 6: like that coming from Seattle, that that is huge because

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Speaker 6: that team had big personalities, you know, like you said,

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Speaker 6: from the Schirms of the world, the Bobby Wagner's, the

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Speaker 3: Russell, he smoked, So you have.

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Speaker 6: Big personalities on that team, and you need a guy

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Speaker 6: that's can can Can I won't want to say control,

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Speaker 6: but can can kind of get everybody on the same page,

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Speaker 6: especially offensively when you had you know, the Russ Cook phase.

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Speaker 3: And all that good stuff. So shoddy.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna sit here and act like I know

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Speaker 6: say I was surprised and his name was brought up,

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Speaker 6: and it's starting to gain momentum. It's like a snowball

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Speaker 6: And I'm interested to see what these players think about it.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about the Parsons of the world, the Dak

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Speaker 6: Prescott to the world, because those are the guys that

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Speaker 6: are your leaders on the team. Those are the guys

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Speaker 6: that voice really means the most when you talk about

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Speaker 6: what coming from that locker room. So I want to

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Speaker 6: see how those guys feel about it, you know, especially

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott because that's gonna be basically his man's right there,

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Speaker 6: because you know, for the past couple of years, Dak

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Speaker 6: has been playing at a high level. You know, the

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Speaker 6: year before this one before he got injured. Second in

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Speaker 6: MVP boting, he had one of his best seasons under

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy. So are they going to bring that same

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Speaker 6: system back, like McCarthy's system back with Shotenhaimer or Schotenhaimer

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Speaker 6: gonna put a whole different spin on it. I'm not

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Speaker 6: too sure about that. We'll see what happens. But one

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Speaker 6: thing's for certain. Whatever you do offensively on this team

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Speaker 6: as the head coach, you better get.

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Speaker 3: Eighty eight involved early.

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Speaker 6: In fact all, you gotta find a way to make

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Speaker 3: They have a culture fit. What is that here?

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Speaker 6: I know we got to go to break, but in

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Speaker 3: Look at the talent.

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Speaker 3: On the football field.

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Speaker 6: Like we saw it when guys went down this season,

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Speaker 3: So this team has got to get better. You know,

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Speaker 4: And but before we go to break, the question that

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Speaker 6: McCarthy was like this, you had a coach that they

438
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Speaker 6: were talking the same language and they were able to

439
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Speaker 6: go out there put up points, win games.

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Speaker 3: They did, you know, have a lay an egg in

441
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Speaker 3: the playoffs. We all saw that.

442
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Speaker 6: But in order to get to the playoffs, you got

443
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Speaker 6: to have success in the regular season, and that's exactly

444
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 6: what he was able to do. So to me, you

445
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 6: got to have a coach that can go in here,

446
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Speaker 6: speak the same languages, that can get the most out

447
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Speaker 6: of this offense.

448
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Speaker 3: Defensively, you can.

449
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Speaker 6: Go out there, get turnovers, take the ball away, but

450
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Speaker 6: in order to win football games in this league, in

451
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Speaker 6: my opinion, you got to be able to put up points.

452
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Speaker 6: So you got to have a coach that can go

453
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Speaker 6: ahead and speak the same language as your quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Man, my sentiments exactly your quarterbacks what they say, it's

455
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Speaker 5: very hard to find a good quarterback. And then once

456
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Speaker 5: you find a good quarterback, you can still have a

457
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Speaker 5: good quarterback. But if he's not properly motivator, he's just

458
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Speaker 5: not on the same page with your head coaches. You know,

459
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Speaker 5: it can make it a bad situation. Looking at what

460
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Speaker 5: you call him, you call the duty bro. If your

461
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Speaker 5: dog is motivated and ready to hunt, then it's not

462
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Speaker 5: the time to go out there. And so with that

463
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Speaker 5: being said, when you go to defense, I feel like

464
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Speaker 5: it's a little bit easier. No slack to Michael Parson.

465
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Speaker 5: He is a generational talent. He can single handedly change

466
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Speaker 5: the game. But like you said, offense, it's points. Like

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Speaker 5: I know they say defense wins championships. But as a

468
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Speaker 5: defensive player, you kind of are taught to be selfless

469
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Speaker 5: because when you're sitting over there, you're saying, hey, man,

470
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Speaker 5: I need whatever for my offense to be in the

471
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Speaker 5: right position. So that way, I know I can go

472
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Speaker 5: out there and hunt, because if I'm Michael Parson, I'm

473
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Speaker 5: gonna say, hey, I want Dak to be in a

474
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Speaker 5: good spot so.

475
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Speaker 3: He can put up the right numbers.

476
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Speaker 5: And if he put up the right numbers and we

477
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Speaker 5: get out of head, guess what that means. It's time

478
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 5: to go get sacks. And we all know that sacks

479
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Speaker 5: get the rack. So if I know if the offense

480
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Speaker 5: is doing good, he's gonna feel a lot better about

481
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Speaker 5: himself as a defensive coach, so I think he will

482
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Speaker 5: be selfless like that. So I think you need to

483
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Speaker 5: attack a Dak friendly.

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Speaker 4: Coach when you I mean you guys being This is

485
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Speaker 4: really shocking to me because I actually, if I was betting, man,

486
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Speaker 4: I would have bet that y'all would have said something

487
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Speaker 4: completely different.

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Speaker 3: So y'all went a whole nother way off.

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Speaker 5: So I'm shocked, and I'm gonna say it like this,

490
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Speaker 5: and I'm gonna put some stink on it. I feel

491
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Speaker 5: like as a defensive player, where the less prima donnas

492
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Speaker 5: like we're ready to go and we're ready to hunt.

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Speaker 5: So and typically everything revolves around the quarterback all the way.

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Speaker 5: Since you were a little like you don't see nobody

495
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Speaker 5: sitting over there saying put a green shirt on the

496
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Speaker 5: middle linebacker of the pass rush and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: So like we're used to people catering for them.

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Speaker 5: So that's why I don't think it would be that

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Speaker 5: much of an issue for him.

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Speaker 3: And if you had to.

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Speaker 5: Ask both of them, they're gonna say the same thing, like,

502
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Speaker 5: let me get in my position because everything starts with me.

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Speaker 4: So okay, So we all watch a lot of a

504
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Speaker 4: ton of football, and if you look at them, if

505
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Speaker 4: you look at if you look at the teams right now,

506
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Speaker 4: even let's go to Kansas City, who is about to

507
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Speaker 4: dip their foot into immortality if they win three in

508
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Speaker 4: a row. But nobody is talking about the defense. My man,

509
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 4: the defense BA was winning them these games.

510
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Speaker 3: I mean even when.

511
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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes makes mistakes, because he does, and they don't.

512
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Speaker 4: They don't play those highlights. Right when that defense comes

513
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Speaker 4: back out on the field, they shut everything down. Now,

514
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, if you have a generational talent and

515
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Speaker 4: Michael Parsons and you can scheme up for him, and

516
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Speaker 4: you put guys around him like the Deran Blands and

517
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Speaker 4: the the Overshown's.

518
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Speaker 3: And the different players.

519
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Speaker 4: You have an opportunity to put together one of those

520
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Speaker 4: kinds of defenses that can shut guys down, shut down.

521
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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to do that anyway in the NFC

522
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Speaker 4: East because of what you have in Washington. Wouldn't it

523
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Speaker 4: be better? I mean, just think about it from a

524
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Speaker 4: defensive standpoint. If you hire a guy that could come

525
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Speaker 4: in here, understand speaks Michael Parsons language and can facilitate that,

526
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Speaker 4: and then you shift your focus to an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 6: And I get it because when I, you know, went

528
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Speaker 6: the furthest as far as team success, we went to

529
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Speaker 6: the AFC Championship. We were led by defense, you know, Jacksonville.

530
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Speaker 6: We had an unreal defense that you're unbelievable. But we

531
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Speaker 6: went up against a guy in Tom Brady who was

532
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Speaker 6: a quarterback. No matter how great we played in that game,

533
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 6: New England always had a chance to win that game

534
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 6: because they had that guy behind the center. So to me, yes,

535
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 6: you have one generational talent in Michael Parsons, But to me,

536
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 6: he can get you a game here and there. He

537
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 6: can just you know, put the team on back. Let

538
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 6: me get you a game here and there. But if

539
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 6: you got that guy at quarterback who's special.

540
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Speaker 3: He can get you all the way.

541
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Speaker 6: He can get you, you know, four straight games, which

542
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 6: were talking about in the playoffs what you gotta get

543
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 6: if you're a wildcard team.

544
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: So you know, to me, that's a racial talent. He's unbelievable.

545
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 6: But to me, I gotta have somebody under that center

546
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 6: that can get the job done at a quarterback position.

547
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Speaker 3: And I'm coach that can coach with him.

548
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Speaker 5: And I'm gonna say that in this in this stint

549
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 5: you were, you were building your momentum. I didn't want

550
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 5: to interrupt you, but I will say I will be

551
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Speaker 5: remiss if I didn't remind you of a guy named

552
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Speaker 5: Aaron Donald, who is arguably the best defensive player ever

553
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Speaker 5: to play this game. And what they could not get

554
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 5: over that hump until we wouldn't eve get to the playoffs,

555
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 5: but couldn't even get to the playoffs without Stafford, and

556
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 5: then that defense couldn't take that element golf. I mean,

557
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna tell you, but before that, what did

558
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 5: it take? It took not only Aaron Donald, who is

559
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 5: arguably the best defensive player, it took arguably one of

560
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 5: the best corners to play in our generation and Rams

561
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 5: getting there. Then you have von Miller getting there, so

562
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 5: you he still needed help, and then you needed McVeigh.

563
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 5: You needed McVeigh. Yeah, so like and then you like,

564
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 5: yeah but McVeigh, but like how rare. And even when

565
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: they had McVeigh, they didn't do it until they added

566
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 5: those key pieces. When you were at Jacksonville and y'all

567
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 5: had the defense that y'all had, y'all had some guys

568
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 5: that are going to be like the guy and defensive wise,

569
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: it couldn't get you over the hump. You need that QB.

570
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Speaker 5: So that's why I say.

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Speaker 4: I Bury, You're a nice guy. I love it, man,

572
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 4: I love that about you. And I just don't understand

573
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: why you just won't say I was supposed to play

574
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl, but my quarterback was a bum.

575
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: All right?

576
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 4: My quarterdas okay, if we just keep on Tom Brady,

577
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: Tom Brady, what what was the final score of that of.

578
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: Was it twenty to fourteen or twenty fifth?

579
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: They say twenty twenty points?

580
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 9: Bro.

581
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Speaker 4: It was like they played on it. Lay field position

582
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: and ball control on y'all. And when y'all had that

583
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: final possession where you needed to get a score. You

584
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 4: had a quarterback that couldn't make the defense did their job.

585
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: Y'all held Tom Brady to come on.

586
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 6: But if we had that quarterback, if we had the

587
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 6: butter back, I give it.

588
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: That's all. That was all he was missing was the quarterback.

589
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. That was it.

590
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 4: That all that man, this man would have played in

591
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. That was the only least. Man was

592
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 4: a fist drunk. We ain't drunk, didn't It didn't happen.

593
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 4: So you learn from your mistakes.

594
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: So here we paid the man. The next all give

595
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Speaker 3: me man, he give going back.

596
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 5: He got us there that he just needed a little

597
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: sim It just didn't go the way that you thought.

598
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: Twenty to fourteen.

599
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: Twenty to fourteen, that was the margin between going to

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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl winning in.

601
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Speaker 3: The AMC Championship.

602
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: The last drive come in the two minute drives.

603
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: That's all.

604
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 4: And that's and that's where that's where I'm at with it.

605
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 4: And I look at this team, and I look at

606
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: where you are, the youth that you have on that

607
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: side of the ball. You have some guys to build around,

608
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 4: You have a piece to build around. I think even

609
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Speaker 4: with the injuries of Dac of late over the last

610
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Speaker 4: couple of years.

611
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Speaker 3: I know how important it is.

612
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: Even when I talk about Kansas City and their defense,

613
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: I can look at Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. I

614
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: bet twenty twenty four to twenty Lord Long Dog two

615
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: minutes and this band scoring on. You blanked out, You

616
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,600
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Speaker 3: Time that that boy got Peach, that boy got PTSD.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 4: And so look on that, on that, with that purposing

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Speaker 4: that about running back, the switch back over to defense,

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Speaker 4: I'm asking you guys, if you do, if you happen

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Speaker 4: to go Schottenheimer, who would be your selection as defensive

685
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Speaker 4: coordinator here?

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Speaker 3: If that is the potential higher.

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Speaker 4: We're just assuming this so we don't have anything concrete

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Speaker 4: we don't know and.

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Speaker 5: Concrete, but I'm I'm gonna pop it off now. I'm

690
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: gonna flex my chest. I got two of them. I

691
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: got too because we all know that Jerry likes to

692
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 5: keep in house talent, and we just talked about letting

693
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Speaker 5: people go.

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Speaker 3: My first choice, I would say, our.

695
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 5: Harris our Hairs has done an amazing job with this

696
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 5: secondary and then just he's been through multiple DCS. You

697
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 5: got to learn from Mike. Even though his tenure here

698
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 5: wasn't what it was supposed to be. But you still

699
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 5: can't deny him of his defensive paralysis and knowing what

700
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 5: he's done and.

701
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: Being around the game, you got to learn from him.

702
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 5: You got to learn from d dan Quinn that's up

703
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 5: there doing what he's doing and we've seen the success

704
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 5: that he's had and Washington, and then on top of that,

705
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: learning from dan Quinn, you get to pull off of

706
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 5: that peak Carroll Tree learning from him.

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00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: Al is his time, like you would have thought. I don't.

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Speaker 3: And I was talking to people earlier.

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00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 5: They were saying they don't think that our DC that

710
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 5: you had last year was the right pick.

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00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: Some thought that Al should have got the shot last year.

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00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 5: Well, now you don't let it miss you twice, Like

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00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 5: if that girl from high school that finally gives you

714
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 5: a chance and it's right there in your face, you

715
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 5: have to jump on it. So I think Al is

716
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 5: a good guy. And if you want to bring somebody

717
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: from the outside, because I just read that Salad did

718
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 5: not get the head coaching job with the Jacks, they're

719
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 5: still going to be interviewing more people, I would say

720
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Speaker 5: you bringing Robert sala Now do I think Sam fran

721
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 5: Is going to let him go somewhere if he doesn't

722
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 5: get that position. No, but I think he would be

723
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: a great guy to pair him up with Michael Parson

724
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 5: in that defense because defensive players at the end of

725
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 5: the day, everybody has a scheme. But it's about how

726
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: can you motivate those guys and bring that high energy

727
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 5: from Robert sola in here, motivate Michael Parson and everybody

728
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 5: else and get them boys thumping again. You might have

729
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 5: the mixing to have that cohesiveness with a young, fresh

730
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: new head coach, approven defensive coordinator that's tooking his team

731
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl, already has head coaching experience. They

732
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 5: can learn from each other. I think that would be

733
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 5: a great pick. But to have two fresh new coach

734
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Speaker 5: that's the only thing that scares me about having a

735
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 5: brand and like we said, a brand new coach if

736
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Speaker 5: you have him coming in and then having our hairs

737
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Speaker 5: coming in being the DC.

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Speaker 3: But those are my two options. Let me just say this.

739
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: I like the Robert solid because of his head coaching

740
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: pedigree and I think that's something that will play well

741
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: with Brian Scheinhama. Just bouncing ideas off of a guy

742
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: like that that's been there, done that. You know, if

743
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: you can match up, especially with whatever your offensive scheme is,

744
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: but it would be your guy.

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00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: So you know, I'd like to double down.

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Speaker 6: I just flip it a little because I would love,

747
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 6: you know, for Harris to get an opportunity.

748
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: You put in the work.

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Speaker 6: You saw what he's done with his secondary I mean,

750
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Speaker 6: Daggs had his best years.

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Speaker 3: You know under our hairs.

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00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 6: You got Bland was a fifth round pick, turn him

753
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Speaker 6: into you know, an All Pro one of the best

754
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 6: defensive players out there. So I would love for him

755
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 6: to get that opportunity. But for me, I'm a slide

756
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 6: with this one because I love what he was able

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 6: to do when he was just in the head of

758
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 6: the defense, Like when he was in San Francisco. He

759
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 6: didn't have to worry about offense, special teams, making sure

760
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 6: the team is all together, you know, curfews, this, that,

761
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 6: and the third. He just had to focus on defense

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Speaker 6: and that San Francisco run that he had. He had

763
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Speaker 6: some of the best defenses out there. You know, they

764
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 6: had hell of talent. If you have you know, all

765
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 6: those guys linebacker. Fred wanted all those guys, but he

766
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 6: was able to get the most out of all of

767
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 6: those guys. And I love what you talked about. You know,

768
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 6: being a former head coach, you can bounce off ideas

769
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Speaker 6: with with Schottenheimer. But we saw what dan Quinn, a

770
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Speaker 6: former head coach, was able to do when he came

771
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 6: in here as a d C. He had that just

772
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 6: culture shifting, guys wanting to run through a brick wall

773
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 6: for this guy. This defense was playing like their hair

774
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 6: was on fire, getting turnovers, going after the quarterback when

775
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 6: dan Quinn was the defensive coordinator here. So to me,

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Speaker 6: I think Sally can bring that same type of energy,

777
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 6: that same type of guy that I want to play

778
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 6: for him, you know, I you know, defense, we're gonna

779
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: do our job offense. Y'all got it over there, but

780
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 6: we're gonna do our job on the defensive side of football.

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Speaker 6: And I think Salah would bring that to this organization.

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00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 6: I love the Harris one as well because I think

783
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 6: it's his time as well. He put the work in. Yeah,

784
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 6: he knows these players, they know him roster, those the

785
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 6: strengths and weaknesses of everybody in his secondary to everybody

786
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 6: on this defense. So I would love for him to

787
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Speaker 6: get a chance as well, but for my first pick,

788
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Speaker 6: and I would go with salo On.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and like I said, if you did somebody

790
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: in the house, it would be out. But me personally,

791
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 5: I would like you to bring solid and then keep

792
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 5: out on the staff. But you know, obviously he might

793
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 5: have opportunities elsewhere because of the talent he has. So

794
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 5: it's like, do you let him go or do you

795
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 5: bring somebody else in there? And then secondly, don't you

796
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 5: ever disrespect me because I was there with Robert sla

797
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 5: what he just got. He had guys on that line,

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00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 5: You had the Forest Buckner and stuff. Yeah, but you

799
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 5: got the most out of guys like me, Ronald Blair,

800
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 5: like guys coming off the bench that were able to

801
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 5: build their names and revive their career, get paid other places,

802
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 5: Sheldon Day, all these guys. And I've personally seen him

803
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 5: maximize his opportunity. And for you telling me that dan

804
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 5: Quinn can go down there, like because if you would

805
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 5: have read at the beginning of the season the roster

806
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 5: list from the Cowboys and the Commanders, you would have said, oh,

807
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 5: by far, let me get this Cowboys rosters. And so

808
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 5: for a guy like him to come in with the

809
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 5: talent that he has, everybody being healthy and no injuries

810
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 5: out there.

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Speaker 3: You it can be scary. It can be really scary.

812
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Speaker 5: So, like I said, I think those two would be

813
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 5: the best pick.

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00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: Now.

815
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Speaker 4: I think you know, Robert Sola, hands down to me

816
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: is the guy that when you think about a defensive coordinator,

817
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: guy that's been there, done that had the pieces. He

818
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: knows he's he's a builder, championship builder. I mean he's

819
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 4: had those uh Bosa, He's had guys like that that

820
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 4: that play the position. He knows how to move the

821
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: pieces around. He's very multiple in what he does. And

822
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: that's that's what I like about him. I love that,

823
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: even though I love San Francisco, got to identify with

824
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: what they did and the success that they had with

825
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Speaker 4: the pieces that they had.

826
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Speaker 3: But obviously it takes talent to play that. Yes, all right,

827
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Speaker 3: thanks talent.

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Speaker 4: When you said the Forest Buckner, when you start talking

829
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Speaker 4: about the pieces that he had, that he was he

830
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: had some grown green lad you did, but you had

831
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Speaker 4: hold on.

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Speaker 3: He had green Law, but you had a young green

833
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Speaker 3: Law that wasn't doing it like that.

834
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Speaker 5: You had an Al Shazer who became the guy like

835
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 5: Al Shazer was on our practice squad. And when I

836
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 5: say that, yes, he did have some dogs, just like

837
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 5: you have some dogs on this defense. But he had

838
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 5: a lot of pieces and he was able to maximize

839
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: that back piece. He was able to talk to people

840
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Speaker 5: in the middle of the meeting room and say, hey,

841
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 5: but you're gonna do what you're gonna do. Eric Armstead,

842
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: You're gonna do what you're gonna do. But Ronnie Blair, hey,

843
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 5: do what you do on special teams, and when you

844
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: get over here, I know you're gonna do what you do.

845
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 5: And so that back end of the roster was able

846
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 5: to sit there and say, hey, I know my chance

847
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 5: is coming.

848
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: Because he's a straight shooter. He's going to tell you

849
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: what it is.

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00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 5: He's gonna motivate you and get you hype, and he's

851
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 5: one of those guys that you want to run through

852
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 5: a brick wall. So, like you said, if you pair

853
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 5: him up being a former head coach, I think they

854
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 5: will be able to bounce ideas off each other and

855
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 5: learn from each other through that experience. And on top

856
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 5: of that, you can't buy Super Bowl.

857
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 3: Experience like that. That goes without being said.

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00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 5: So like I said, it's just about Do you want

859
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 5: the hot, proven, hot name right now or do you

860
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: want somebody that's in house that potentially might be that

861
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: guy if you let them walk away?

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00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: You don't want to have another damn Quinn situation? Real quick?

863
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: Are we sure this Cowboys defense is like that? Like?

864
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: Are we sure? Like we talking about how much you

865
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 3: know talent? This, that and the third. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no.

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Speaker 5: No, we're not saying there. That's what we're not saying.

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00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 5: We got parses. You got parses, But that's what you need,

869
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 5: the pieces that's you need. That saying names. You had

870
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: guys that got stuff under their resume, you got gigs

871
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 5: that let the league get picked for you.

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Speaker 3: You got on top of that, you got Parson. What

873
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Speaker 3: else do you really need from there? Now? You just

874
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: got to go get role players.

875
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 5: Everybody can't be the superstar if we have too many superstars,

876
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 5: and what everybody's gonna be doing in basketball?

877
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 3: It's my shot, it's my shot. No, let that guy

878
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: go be the.

879
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: Guy and go get you a car lost and that's

880
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 5: gonna play on the back end. And hey, when Parson

881
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 5: needs to take his break, you got a young pupp

882
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 5: that's coming off doing that. You have to everybody can't

883
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 5: be lebron. You gotta you gotta get your you gotta

884
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 5: get your Mo Williams. You gotta get your outs.

885
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: But in theory, in theory, what you have to have

886
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: is some dogs and we need whether you call them guys,

887
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 4: we need more dog dogs. But I got to make

888
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: a dog and let me ask before we get up

889
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 4: out of here, Before we get up out of here,

890
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: I want to go with you. Guys's a f C

891
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 4: n f C champions Uh, you know we got the

892
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: n f C East Championship going on.

893
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: Everybody came to the party.

894
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 4: Got you gotta give me, You gotta give me your

895
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: pigre Who you got, man?

896
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: Who's going to the super Bowl?

897
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 5: Hey, y'all can call it bias all y'all want to,

898
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna go with my aggie brother over there,

899
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 5: Cliff Kingsbury and that young feet now, man, hey, whether

900
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 5: they're doing when you got it, you got it like

901
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 5: when you're just winning and that defense like like you said,

902
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: Dan Quinn, he's been a part of those teams that

903
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: have been to the Big Dance. You have the super

904
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 5: Bowl experience in Bobby Wagner, who's gonna sit there and

905
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 5: police those guys that help them bring it in. And

906
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 5: then you got a young guy that just got the

907
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 5: high handed. When you're winning, you're winning. And so I

908
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 5: think that they're gonna be able to expose the Eagles

909
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 5: when they play them.

910
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: Commanders is one. So who you got in the a

911
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: f C man, Hey do it? Hey?

912
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 8: Man?

913
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: Are you doing? What's good? I'm gonna go. I'll go

914
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: go with Bill's my hey what he said? What he said?

915
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: I gotta go for an upset man. You got the

916
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: Commanders in in the super Bowl. I got the building.

917
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: I got the Bills and Commanders in the super Bowl.

918
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: You heard it here.

919
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 6: From for the NFC East Invitational.

920
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a good game.

921
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 6: That dude, j Dave, it was his electric Quinn got

922
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 6: these guys playing out whatever I mean. He got the

923
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 6: boys rolling. But I'm gonna go with the Eagles on

924
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 6: this one. At their house. They are a more talented roster,

925
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 6: even though Washington has you know, the momentum. The're the

926
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 6: hot squad right now. Philly. If Hurts can stay healthy

927
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 6: because you know he live a little.

928
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: Bit, you gotta get me quarterback there right now, he.

929
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 6: Can stay healthy. I believe the Eagles is gonna win

930
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 6: this game. Okay, so you got the Eagles. I got

931
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 6: the Eagles. You got the Eagles.

932
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

933
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 6: And then on the a f C side, Man, I'm

934
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 6: never gonna I Man, I don't Kansas City.

935
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 3: I'm tired.

936
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: I can't bet against you gotta bet against him.

937
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to. It's like there's good money.

938
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: I don't want to know when you guys know that

939
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 5: I absolutely hate the Philadelphia Eagles, and you know we're

940
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 5: gonna find that because I want to knew he to

941
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 5: be on the show, because we got to get the

942
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 5: round up for the regular season how we went with

943
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 5: our picks.

944
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes I just I just kind of feel

945
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 4: like I gonna bring that book, you know. I mean,

946
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 4: I want the book in front of me.

947
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 3: The book is gone. There's a reason why.

948
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 4: He Here's what I mean, but just adding logic to

949
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 4: it for the reasons that you just said.

950
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: I think Jalen Hurts is is hobbled.

951
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: I think he's been playing bad football before he even

952
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 4: got hobbled. And that has been a problem. It has

953
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 4: been the Saquon Barkley Show and if if it comes

954
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: down to it, I think dan Quinn's Achilles Hill has

955
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: been the run, you know that running on.

956
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: Another way. No, see what Gibbs did, Yeah I did,

957
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: But ain't no where the hell I'm gonna pick the Eagle.

958
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: Ain't no hell because I would be nauseous. I wouldn't

959
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: even watch the Super Bowl. They would.

960
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: So I'm going with the Commanders, Betty, and then then

961
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: on the other side. Then on the other side, I'm

962
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 4: absolutely going with Kansas City. Patrick Mahons getting all the calls,

963
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: it's you know what i mean, Come on, May flinching.

964
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: I've never seen you not be able to hit like brother.

965
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 5: It's a different day with someone scrutiny on him. I

966
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 5: think that those calls, he's gonna get some of those.

967
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 5: But they can't just be that obvious right now.

968
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, I.

969
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 5: Can't believe you picked the Eagles the way that they

970
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 5: were exposed last game. If the Rams were fully healthy, brother,

971
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: you know they were supposed to win that game.

972
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: I've seen what it was because of them. Yeah, I've

973
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: seen the players lounge down. We did it.

974
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: Uh.

975
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 4: New Strugg will be back next week next Thursday at

976
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: ten o'clock.

977
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Speaker 3: Will be here.

978
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all for joining us. My Man de Montree,

979
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 4: Warberry Churchill mac mahals.

980
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Speaker 3: And we are out Throy.

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982
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