WEBVTT - REWIND: LaRUSSELL - What Is This Egg Sandwich Worth To You?

0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. I'm your

0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:08.360
<v Speaker 1>host Coleen Wits, and today we have in the building

0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:16.440
<v Speaker 1>music artists, philosopher entrepreneur Larussell, and I am truly excited.

0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Nothing made my day more than like what two days

0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.720
<v Speaker 1>ago when your crew I think his crew confirmed like

0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.439
<v Speaker 1>two or three days ago, and it literally they were like,

0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.639
<v Speaker 1>holy why are you so silent? You're supposed to be happy.

0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, I'm just making sure you

0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:29.520
<v Speaker 1>tell me the date because if you tell me a

0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.080
<v Speaker 1>month from now, I'm not getting excited because just in

0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.600
<v Speaker 1>case something happens. And she was like, so you're happy,

0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I said, what's the date two days from now? I said, hell, yeah,

0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy. Girl Danks shout outs and Nicole from the

0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Black Effect for booking you. Super happy to have you.

0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I love the name of your company and I love

0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.239
<v Speaker 1>what you're about. I'm the name of his company is

0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:54.600
<v Speaker 1>called good Come Penny as in coints, which I was like,

0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:59.160
<v Speaker 1>ooh ooh, that's different, I said, Man, Larussell's hitting us

0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.040
<v Speaker 1>with so much intech. Do you remind me of a

0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.480
<v Speaker 1>cross between jay Z and Drake and anyone that has

0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.440
<v Speaker 1>not heard your music or kind of even try to

0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.120
<v Speaker 1>cyberspy on you. It was like really missing out, like

0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.720
<v Speaker 1>on some good stuff. But since I have you in

0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.640
<v Speaker 1>my kitchen, the eating while broke kitchen, I have to

0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.000
<v Speaker 1>know what were you eating when you.

0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Were broke man. Today I'm going to be making an

0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.640
<v Speaker 2>egg sandwich. This was a classic. My mama taught me

0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.039
<v Speaker 2>how to make eggs when I was like five, and

0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I used to wake up every morning and make eggs,

0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and that was the only thing I knew how to make.

0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.080
<v Speaker 2>So we taking it back to the basics. We got

0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.080
<v Speaker 2>some eggs, we got some salt and pepper. Today we're

0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna be doing it on garlic bread. Yeah, because I

0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.600
<v Speaker 2>usually use regular bread, we just throw it in a toaster.

0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.360
<v Speaker 2>But my boy Austin was like, you gotta do garlic bread,

0:01:45.440 --> 0:02:09.800
<v Speaker 2>so I figured we just spice it up today.

0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had a whole discussion about the whole garlic bread,

0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you and I because I've actually never even thought of

0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.560
<v Speaker 1>garlic bread. Actually, the first time I ever had garlic

0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.280
<v Speaker 1>bread for real, for real was the Texas toast in

0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the box. And now if you go into a store,

0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.359
<v Speaker 1>it is sold out, like you can't get it.

0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.040
<v Speaker 3>It's a miracle if you find.

0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:32.360
<v Speaker 1>One, maybe on eBay, but I don't know the pandemic.

0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Just like said, take away the best bread on earth.

0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.399
<v Speaker 1>But I'm excited to eat with you, so let's get

0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.519
<v Speaker 1>it cracking. Oh my gosh, an egg fun.

0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.240
<v Speaker 3>Let's get it cracked all right?

0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh. I listened to rap music so much that my

0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.160
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend and I shout out to a lap behind the

0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.760
<v Speaker 1>mirror over there. I listened to rap soap music so

0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:03.280
<v Speaker 1>much that I actually speak in metaphors, and sometimes people

0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.560
<v Speaker 1>have to stop me and say, coly, we get it.

0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't have to, you don't have to

0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:08.960
<v Speaker 1>rebreak it down in puzzle terms.

0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a metaphor speakers. Can I move this

0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>so I can crack some eggs?

0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Here? Slide over to my side the greatest?

0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Are you eating one too? So I should make all.

0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you have to cook for both of us, because

0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.600
<v Speaker 1>if it's trash, we can both discover that garlic bread

0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:27.160
<v Speaker 1>egg sandwiches is.

0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Just not I'm finna drop some butter up in here

0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.880
<v Speaker 2>because my mama would be like, use some pam so

0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.160
<v Speaker 2>you don't leave eggs stained all over there.

0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Now, are you one of those people that are really

0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna use metal on a.

0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah, I do. We're not supposed to do that.

0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Even every listener is hearing that scratching is like, what

0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is he doing?

0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:49.120
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy?

0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.880
<v Speaker 1>What is he doing? His mama couldn't have ever let

0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:52.400
<v Speaker 1>him do that.

0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Man, she did.

0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.680
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't believe how much stuff my mom let me do.

0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Let I don't mean we had taflon back then. Maybe

0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember.

0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.760
<v Speaker 1>You're right, it was like a luxury. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah,

0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:09.640
<v Speaker 1>back then I think it was.

0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:10.720
<v Speaker 3>You're right.

0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.960
<v Speaker 1>You just had to butter everything down otherwise it's stuck.

0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Or you get that good old pam spray and you

0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.720
<v Speaker 2>in it. Oh, I'm getting it all over there.

0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not a I'm not a you know, So

0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.039
<v Speaker 1>tell me a little bit about what was going on.

0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I know this is like the first dish that you

0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.599
<v Speaker 1>ever cooked, But tell me what was going on during

0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Of Also, I usually add bacon, beet bacon bits, and

0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:37.200
<v Speaker 2>chaddar cheese.

0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.600
<v Speaker 3>But I heard y'all broke, so it wasn't a here.

0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.320
<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna go pepper. I don't see salt over here.

0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.680
<v Speaker 3>There's lorryes, y'all struggling.

0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Yo, so much fun of us over here. Yeah,

0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not even gonna use Lorries because you don't.

0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm not gonna use Larry I've never done that.

0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to keep it authentic.

0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, okay, I respect it to be honest. I

0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.240
<v Speaker 1>don't use Lowry's. Well, I just started to recently, but

0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:13.240
<v Speaker 1>it's only because I married a black man from Detroit

0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:14.000
<v Speaker 1>who believes.

0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Lowry's is everything seasoning. Yeah, yes, yes, beautiful.

0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:25.080
<v Speaker 1>So what was going on growing up? Like around when

0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you were making egg sandwiches? I know you started at five,

0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, making these, but like kind of tell me

0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of your background growing up, Like were

0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you middle class?

0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.919
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was middle class until I got older

0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and realized we're definitely lower middle class. But my pops

0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.160
<v Speaker 2>was a hustler, so we were like we had enough

0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.600
<v Speaker 2>money to be like the richest niggas in a broke

0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:56.320
<v Speaker 2>neighborhood type shit you feel me, but definitely, uh, lower class,

0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:01.719
<v Speaker 2>just regular neighborhood. Hard to describe when people ask that

0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.520
<v Speaker 2>question because you got to kind of grow up in

0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:05.080
<v Speaker 2>it to be familiar.

0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Did you grow up in a two parent household?

0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Definitely.

0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Wow Okay, okay, a lot of people on the show,

0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:12.720
<v Speaker 1>they haven't.

0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm going in.

0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.240
<v Speaker 1>That's good. So when did you transition to music.

0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I've been writing since I was like seven, whether through

0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:32.839
<v Speaker 2>like writing poems or just journaling, drawing, just I've just

0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.479
<v Speaker 2>always used kind of writing an art as like an

0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:40.560
<v Speaker 2>artistic expression and form. So yeah, since I was seven,

0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of just cultivated. Me and my sister

0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.200
<v Speaker 2>had this boombox and we used to download instrumentals from

0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.159
<v Speaker 2>LimeWire and burn them on the CD, the instrumentals on

0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.360
<v Speaker 2>the boom box and wrap over it. And I remember

0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.159
<v Speaker 2>we had a wrapped over knock if you Buck and

0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I was going crazy, but my sister was better than

0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.320
<v Speaker 2>me at the time, so I just had to keep working.

0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Your sister was rapping too.

0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my sister was rapping too.

0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:07.400
<v Speaker 1>So does she still rap?

0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.000
<v Speaker 3>No, she doesn't.

0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.760
<v Speaker 1>So you surpassed her in the rap skills. And then

0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.200
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I'm good. Is that what happened? I don't.

0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she ever had a passion for it. It

0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:17.960
<v Speaker 2>was just something we like to play around and do,

0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and I just kind of stuck with it.

0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, that's pretty cool. So you is it

0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that you like Drake because it like from what I've

0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.640
<v Speaker 1>researched on you, is that you from other articles and

0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you could correct me if I'm wrong, But your goal

0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was to be on the level I want to say,

0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and on the I don't know, like numbers level, because

0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously talent wise, you're on the same level as Drake,

0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.240
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying numbers wise, you want to be on

0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the same level. But independently, Yeah, is that correct?

0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily numbers wise, but impacting notoriety wise. You know,

0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I want people to respect me as such, and partially

0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the way to do that is to put up the numbers.

0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.160
<v Speaker 2>If you're not scoring as well as Jordan, people don't

0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:16.040
<v Speaker 2>expect you respect you like a Jordan, right, And yeah,

0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.440
<v Speaker 2>to do that independently and just show people that it's

0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:23.600
<v Speaker 2>possible to be the greatest at something without having to

0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.840
<v Speaker 2>utilize someone else's infrastructure that they tell you you got

0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to go through and you got to use these methods

0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.440
<v Speaker 2>and you got to sell away your ownership, you know,

0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.640
<v Speaker 2>like everyone knows early on Drake didn't have his masters

0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.520
<v Speaker 2>and had a horrible deal. I want to show people

0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.360
<v Speaker 2>that you can get to that level without having to

0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:39.880
<v Speaker 2>go through that.

0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Right when you say, just want to rewind, you said

0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it was important for you to have impact and notoriety,

0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Like why what does that even mean to me?

0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:57.720
<v Speaker 2>It just it enables you to to It enables you

0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.040
<v Speaker 2>to make change, Like right now, feed the whole hood

0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.360
<v Speaker 2>where I'm from. You know, from now to the end

0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:04.880
<v Speaker 2>of the year, I've been feeding the hood out of

0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.240
<v Speaker 2>my own pocket. And I've only been able to do

0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.600
<v Speaker 2>that because of my impact and my notoriety. I've become

0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.880
<v Speaker 2>so great that I make enough money to where I

0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.000
<v Speaker 2>could take care of the place that birth me right,

0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people don't get to do that

0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.240
<v Speaker 2>because they don't have either the talent level or the

0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.160
<v Speaker 2>resource to do it. I've been able to do it independently.

0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm finna drop this garlic bread on this joint.

0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.760
<v Speaker 1>It's already it's already done, already toasted it.

0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.160
<v Speaker 3>And oh that's crazy.

0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I try to cheat it because I wanted to

0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.800
<v Speaker 1>get all up in your kool aid. Wow, so I

0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.960
<v Speaker 1>put the temple because you can't find.

0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.640
<v Speaker 3>That anywhere intriguing.

0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's try it. Let's be a team here. Dang, why

0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.160
<v Speaker 1>do we have to break from your story though, right?

0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Is this not the hardest interview process?

0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.840
<v Speaker 3>This is great, this is great. I'm a multitasker.

0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try this too. All right, So we get

0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the bread everyone, we're getting the garlic bread situation together

0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:05.079
<v Speaker 1>and we're putting eggs in it.

0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is new. I've never had this. Shout out all.

0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Star for you have to turn off the store.

0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Yep, let me get right on there.

0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Berthie was talking is mess about us being broke?

0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Now, well, I was going to put garlic bread on there,

0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.719
<v Speaker 2>but you know, you guys did it, so okay, I

0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.480
<v Speaker 2>completely forgot you were.

0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:24.959
<v Speaker 1>Going to actually make it. You don't even know how

0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to make garlic bread, do you.

0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean I use Texas toes, so I was just

0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.199
<v Speaker 2>going to throw it up on that joint and then

0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:32.720
<v Speaker 2>it does what it does and you're.

0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Good after.

0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I's trying. Okay, let's go back to notoriety and impact

0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:47.679
<v Speaker 1>and you feeding your community. Yes, okay, stealing all your eggs, buddy,

0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, here we go. Do you want to sample

0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it first before we get into the nuts and bolts.

0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Sure, all right, let's try and see here we good?

0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.720
<v Speaker 3>It did. It's a lot of bread.

0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I think Texas garlic.

0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:15.800
<v Speaker 3>It Texas.

0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:21.560
<v Speaker 1>At least we now know we actually I now know

0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.559
<v Speaker 1>how to do it in the future. But there's way

0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:24.319
<v Speaker 1>too much bread.

0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.800
<v Speaker 3>On this one, way too much bread. It's like a

0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:32.079
<v Speaker 3>bread with a side of eggs. It's actually garlic, a

0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.360
<v Speaker 3>garlic bread sandwich.

0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Would you ever serve the almost mm hmmm. That could

0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:44.760
<v Speaker 1>be an idea, but with dinner bread, right, yeah, look

0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.400
<v Speaker 1>at me? Do I Can we call it the eating

0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.800
<v Speaker 1>while Brooks? No, that would probably be horrible. Hunts to

0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.800
<v Speaker 1>name it the eating wall broke sandwich while you're at

0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.160
<v Speaker 1>a pay pay as you go? Is it pay as

0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you go or pay what you.

0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Want, pay what you want? Proud to pay?

0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, come sit sit with me so I can get

0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.079
<v Speaker 1>all up in your I know he jumped off camera

0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:07.080
<v Speaker 1>on that one. Right, fine, it's fine, real life, real life.

0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So let's go into Momos cafe for a second. What

0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:21.080
<v Speaker 1>inspired all of that? Mm hmmm, or at least a partner.

0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Just seeing the need.

0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.800
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of homeless in Valoe and just people

0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.640
<v Speaker 2>who don't get to eat. And I'm always outside so

0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I always see it. I'm always giving someone money or

0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.240
<v Speaker 2>taking care of someone, whether my mom would drop off

0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.040
<v Speaker 2>boxes of merch to the homeless community out there, to

0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:48.000
<v Speaker 2>different encampments, and I'm just always trying to help, right,

0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:49.720
<v Speaker 2>And this is the way that we can help now

0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that I'm in a grander position.

0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I've done a.

0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Few of these prior this year, but just for a day.

0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.640
<v Speaker 2>And when you do it today, it's like, everybody don't

0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.719
<v Speaker 2>get a chance to eat. So this time it was like,

0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.160
<v Speaker 2>let's make sure everybody gets a chance to eat.

0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think what you're doing is great. I'm

0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:11.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna circle back to your music again. So you're a

0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.920
<v Speaker 1>talented artist. Again, for anyone that hasn't heard your music,

0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I definitely would say you're in the same lay as

0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.480
<v Speaker 1>jay Z and Drake, which, by the way, I'm a

0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.720
<v Speaker 1>hardcore jay Z fan. Everyone that listens to this show

0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.000
<v Speaker 1>knows this. I have a huge five foot painting that's

0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.640
<v Speaker 1>literally the only one in the world that was custom

0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.280
<v Speaker 1>made of jay Z like hanging out in projects. I'm

0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:33.920
<v Speaker 1>from Brooklyn.

0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:35.800
<v Speaker 3>There it goes.

0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:42.800
<v Speaker 1>But I will say this in all truest form. Currently,

0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.839
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years, I listen to Drake

0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:47.840
<v Speaker 1>more and I feel guilty.

0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.080
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm cheating.

0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Like for real, Like I don't let nobody know that,

0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Like nobody knows that. This is the first time I've

0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.679
<v Speaker 1>said it out loud, but in my heart, I'm like, yo, just.

0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Listen to jay Z today. Don't and you don't have

0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.439
<v Speaker 3>to always pick Drake, but.

0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I listened to your lyrics. I'm just wondering, like, what did?

0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been signed?

0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Not in the capacity that artists get signed, like I've

0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.040
<v Speaker 2>never been signed to a major deal.

0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.640
<v Speaker 3>All of my deals have been partnerships, like distribution deals.

0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.760
<v Speaker 2>No, I've done like record deals, but in partnership for them,

0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.000
<v Speaker 2>like fifty to fifty profit shares, like I don't belong

0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.080
<v Speaker 2>to anyone. I'm my own entity and we just split

0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.480
<v Speaker 2>profit versus when a record label usually signs to you,

0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.640
<v Speaker 2>you're in like a royalty deal and they own your shit.

0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.960
<v Speaker 2>And if they don't own your shit, they license it

0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.320
<v Speaker 2>for twenty years and they have power and rule over

0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.280
<v Speaker 2>when you release and how you release any of that.

0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.080
<v Speaker 2>So I've never been in a major deal. All of

0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.640
<v Speaker 2>my deals have been partnerships.

0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Currently, are you in a partnership deal or are you independent?

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I've been independent the entire time, So all of these

0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.360
<v Speaker 2>partnerships are completely like me and my team do everything.

0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.560
<v Speaker 1>You see, you're controlling all the marketing everything. So and

0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.440
<v Speaker 1>they're controlling because nowadays it's a little confusing a record

0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.960
<v Speaker 1>label is really bringing to the table at this point.

0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.360
<v Speaker 1>It depends now I mean with I mean if oh

0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.800
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, why am I spacing when it comes to

0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.640
<v Speaker 1>who is Draked in Lil Wayne? And what's their name

0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of their young Money is it? No, it's not young Money,

0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:23.080
<v Speaker 1>it's race but no, no, no, he was signed to

0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Lil Wayne, who was the cash So they're so from

0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.320
<v Speaker 1>what I know of the history of uh, the music industry,

0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Birdman had the best deal in the industry. So young Money,

0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.680
<v Speaker 1>cash Money has literally the best deals on the table.

0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Cash money, cash money.

0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So if cash Money calls you up right now, I'm

0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:51.400
<v Speaker 1>just playing it. It was advocate with.

0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:56.080
<v Speaker 2>No to see there's a cash Money had the best

0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.800
<v Speaker 2>deal in terms of their deal with Republic, not in

0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.080
<v Speaker 2>terms of the deals that they gave artists.

0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Really, you don't think they gave artists really.

0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Good deals, No, because they Drake didn't have his masters.

0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:07.920
<v Speaker 3>He just got him.

0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.880
<v Speaker 2>He was in the royalty deal. Lil Wayne had to

0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.560
<v Speaker 2>take him to court to get his money. How could

0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.920
<v Speaker 2>they be in a great deal? O tig has been

0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.200
<v Speaker 2>complaining for years, How could they be in a great

0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:19.680
<v Speaker 2>deal that doesn't make any sense?

0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I didn't know that.

0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah cash Money had a substantial deal, you know.

0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Wen dy Day was a part of helping put that

0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.080
<v Speaker 2>together with Republic. They really broke the bank.

0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.040
<v Speaker 1>When did you So you're a music artist. What is

0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.920
<v Speaker 1>intriguing about you is, for instance, today we gave you

0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.800
<v Speaker 1>a release, Clarence, and you sat there quietly.

0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:44.600
<v Speaker 3>And read it.

0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.360
<v Speaker 1>You're a businessman all the way through. So were do

0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you think you're an entrepreneur before you were an artist?

0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Definitely? Definitely.

0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Before I was releasing art, I was selling beats, I

0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:01.280
<v Speaker 2>was making album covers for people and selling I've been

0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I used to sell swishers one of your parents basketball team. Yeah,

0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.439
<v Speaker 2>my pops was a hustler. He sold everything under the

0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.200
<v Speaker 2>sun except drugs, like everything.

0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:11.679
<v Speaker 1>It was going to be my next question because when

0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I hear hustler, I'm like, what was he saying? There?

0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.320
<v Speaker 3>No, man, everything exactly.

0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So you got your entrepreneur spirit from him, and then

0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.800
<v Speaker 1>your talent gross kind of came from you and your

0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.359
<v Speaker 1>sister like in this.

0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Boombox kind of my pops as well.

0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:32.360
<v Speaker 2>He's very creatively inclined, right, and he's a problem solver, right.

0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.399
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like a part of my talent and

0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.040
<v Speaker 2>just my skill, my business acumen is because I'm a

0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:40.160
<v Speaker 2>problem solver. My favorite thing to say is I'll figure

0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:41.200
<v Speaker 2>it out, and I will.

0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, spoken like a true entrepreneur. You know

0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 1>how to pivot, right, Yeah, that's whenever I see a problem,

0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, it's not a problem, it's a challenge, right,

0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:51.600
<v Speaker 1>what to do?

0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I was I was walking to get my daughter the

0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:55.960
<v Speaker 2>other day and I was talking with my brother and

0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, are you looking for problems or

0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:03.159
<v Speaker 2>are you looking for You usually find whatever you're looking for.

0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I like that, you know what you say, how I think.

0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I like you so much. I genuinely,

0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely fuck with you hard do I say fuck

0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.560
<v Speaker 1>on the show ever? Really, I genuinely mess with you.

0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, yo, is he as dope? So

0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.240
<v Speaker 1>what I've learned being a Christian and just living in

0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the world is like, there's so many dope people that

0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:34.639
<v Speaker 1>are doing great things externally. But now that I'm old, older,

0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.919
<v Speaker 1>I've grown enough. Wasn't the to ask myself, well, if

0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they're externally have all this integrity? I just wonder, like

0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.920
<v Speaker 1>if I was a fly on their wall at home,

0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, do they carry that same level of integrity.

0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.080
<v Speaker 1>When I listen to some of your rap lyrics, I'm like, Okay,

0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.040
<v Speaker 1>they're great. And then there's some that teeter into like

0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:01.119
<v Speaker 1>how you enjoy women in the past. I don't know

0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.120
<v Speaker 1>if it's current. I don't know. You know, it's hard

0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.240
<v Speaker 1>being a man. I'm not a man, So I just wondering, Like.

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I think, if you are a fly on the wall

0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.200
<v Speaker 2>in my house, you'd see a human and supreme form

0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.919
<v Speaker 2>right in every aspect, on their roller coaster and on

0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.399
<v Speaker 2>their journey. I think there's everyone around me could speak

0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 2>to my heart and my greatness and my moral and

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:28.359
<v Speaker 2>my character. But I also have issues as a human

0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:30.720
<v Speaker 2>as well that I have to develop from and that

0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I've had to grow from just through a journey. Right,

0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Like you, you learn self respect and you learn value,

0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.680
<v Speaker 2>and you learn respecting other people throughout your journey, depending

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.800
<v Speaker 2>on your experience and your surrounding and what you witness. Right,

0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.960
<v Speaker 2>most of us just replicate whatever we see if you

0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 2>don't see anybody in like loving and nurturing situations and

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.880
<v Speaker 2>providing that, you don't often replicate it, right, because that's

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.560
<v Speaker 2>not something you're familiar with, So just through that process.

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Of course, I'm a human, but I think for the

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.919
<v Speaker 2>most part, what you see externally of me is what

0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.280
<v Speaker 2>you see and when you meet me, I'm the exact

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:09.000
<v Speaker 2>same person.

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Right when I hear your lyrics, you're I feel like

0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you're vulnerable, You're you're honest with yourself, and I think

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of men, I don't want to say

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of men, for humans, I think we we

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.359
<v Speaker 1>tend to either tell ourselves the truth or we tell

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.360
<v Speaker 1>ourselves a lie, and it's the battle of you know,

0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.040
<v Speaker 1>but the only way to grow is to tell yourself

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.240
<v Speaker 1>the truth. So there's a lot of vulnerability in your lyrics,

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and I love it like I love it well the

0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 1>same reason why I love a lot of y'all. You know,

0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you are my top three, you know. Come, so now

0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I do do snooping. Obviously I had to cyberstalk the

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:54.439
<v Speaker 1>hell out of you, but I noticed you were, like,

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're a fan of mine, you come directly to me,

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Like how how did you even conceive that concept of like,

0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.080
<v Speaker 1>you want to come to my show, you buy the

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.520
<v Speaker 1>tickets from me, no ticket mass and no middle man,

0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Like where did that come from?

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Life?

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 2>That's always been the process, you know, Like I've watched

0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 2>my dad hustle, and everyone who bought product from him

0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:19.880
<v Speaker 2>pulled up on him or he pulled up on them.

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.639
<v Speaker 2>If you want something from Larussell, you have to go

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:26.080
<v Speaker 2>communicate with Larussell. When you start adding third parties, you

0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:29.399
<v Speaker 2>could either miss opportunity or something get misplaced. Like I

0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 2>used to do booking for a theater and I was

0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.560
<v Speaker 2>trying to book certain artists and I'd have to go

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:38.159
<v Speaker 2>through their agents and It'll be like a caaw whatever.

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they shut you down, get.

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 2>To it, and then when I meet them later, I'm like, bro,

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to get you for it would have

0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 2>been dope because I was building this thing. And they're like, man,

0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know right, And that's because and they

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>ain't hollering at you. And then as the more middleman

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you have, the more pie that's getting dipped into. And

0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm a firm believer in if I'm splitting pie, it

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.359
<v Speaker 2>needs to be with people who help me bake them pie,

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.400
<v Speaker 2>not someone who's just there. Because the end of this

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 2>is a standard. You need to have a business manager.

0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:08.679
<v Speaker 2>You need to have this that like, we're not going

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 2>to do that. You got to actually provide something. If

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 2>you didn't bring no ingredients or help bake this, you

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't get a slice of it.

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Now, you do have a team, because to get to you,

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I tried emailing, Okay, I was like, this is the email,

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 1>this is how I gets hel But you do have

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a team. Do you have a role amongst your team

0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:30.959
<v Speaker 1>that they don't get to say no, that you have

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>to at least they have to at least present the

0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to you. Because that's a valid point that happens

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in the industry.

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Just about everything comes to me. And I may have

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:42.919
<v Speaker 2>seen this. I was telling Austin. No, I'm for sure.

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I was telling Austin when it first came I had

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 2>seen the show similar and I was like, I don't

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 2>know because I seen the time the eating while broke thing,

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like a lot of people play on

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 2>like poor people and shit, and I didn't I didn't

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.159
<v Speaker 2>like it. So I was just like, ah, I'm not

0:22:58.200 --> 0:22:59.879
<v Speaker 2>gonna deal with that right now, let me see as

0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 2>a cultivate. So I may have seen it. There's not

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 2>too much that come through the email that I don't see.

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>And if I don't see it, my two right hands

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 2>always see it and it still makes its way to me.

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.199
<v Speaker 3>So with the eating when I broke, that was one

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:12.880
<v Speaker 3>of the reasons.

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, ah, the title.

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't like when people play on the on poverty.

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And like, it's just like when I created Eating While Broke,

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I I was like, I just I have so many

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>dope successful friends that are like millionaires, influence celebrities, entrepreneurs,

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and they always have these crazy stories like they were

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>in jail, or they were male escorts or just crazy

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 1>ass stories, and I love them. I lived for them.

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 1>We go on to hiking, like tell me more, what

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>else did you do? You're a hugger? Okay, let's here,

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:49.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, And so I just love the journey. I

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>actually don't even I do enjoy the solutions, but I

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.199
<v Speaker 1>love the journey. I love the storytelling. I love the

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 1>hero's journey. And so when I came up with Eating

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 1>While Broke, I was like, well, we got to start

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.239
<v Speaker 1>it at the route. You know that everyone can relate to, like,

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, people that are aspiring rappers that are literally

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>only have two pennies to rub together. And I named

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 1>it Eating while Broke, But then I realized, damn, every

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>time I pitched the show, I have to say, hey,

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I have this great opportunity for you. It's it's ignore

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the name. Let me tell you what it is. And

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I always have to say, ignore the name, and then

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I tell them, you know, the show is about inspiring

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>people and just kind of leveling with them and inspiring

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>them that they can do exactly what you did, or

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.640
<v Speaker 1>they should believe in themselves no matter what their environment

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>is in. But I always have to do this dang

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>explainer right on eating sometimes.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 2>That's why, like certain things would get to me through email,

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 2>but since it doesn't have full context, it's like I

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.959
<v Speaker 2>can't tend to it right because it doesn't resonate. But

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 2>that's why I'm always somebody. I'm so open. If you

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 2>see me anywhere, you can come to me and address me.

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 2>And once I meet you and feel your energy, it's like, oh, okay,

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense, right, But emails have no context, like

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 2>that's just you got to take it for whatever you

0:24:58.880 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 2>want to.

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>I I'm uh. Pippole told me this once. He said,

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>if they locked the door, you're climbing through the window.

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, he didn't respond. He Nicole better used.

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 3>That heart email.

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Dropping Charlottemgne you know it's running this show, and uh,

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, get his attention. Love And not only did

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I do that, but I liked you so much. I

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 1>literally was like, ear your Leisure should have him, Charlemagne

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 1>should have him, all these people should have him, and

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.239
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I think they already did. Like I

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>was like the last ones at the table, like these

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 1>are the shows he should be on. I don't even

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't even never had an opportunity meet with you,

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.120
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, dam all your publicists over there,

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>like this is who I want. Love it and and

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that's you know why we named the show, you know,

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, eating while broke. But

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I get it because I literally every time I sell

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>some on the idea, I'm like, just ignore the name,

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>ignore the name. But I'm glad that you take time

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to come and sit with me and super excited. I

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 1>love literally everything you're about. And sorry. One of the

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>things that kind of surprised me is the entrepreneur in you.

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:24.360
<v Speaker 4>And like.

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Also, like, why did you name your company the good Copenny?

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean good company just because there's a quote

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 2>that's say your mama say you just by the company

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 2>you keep, right, So I feel like good company is

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>encompassing them. Just I like to have good people around me,

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 2>and we build great energy when we go into places.

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 2>We're a good company to have, right, Just that name

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>is welcoming. And then I use pennies because I feel

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 2>like pennies are undervalued and overlooked. Right, If you see

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 2>a penny on the ground, you usually don't stop and

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 2>pick it up. But imagine if you stopped and picked

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 2>up every penny you walk past throughout your whole life,

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>you probably have more money than a lot of the

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 2>people besides you. Even though it's a penny. There's a

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 2>multitude of them, Like we passed them up all the

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 2>time everywhere, and no one really cares. Right, But it

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 2>exists for a reason.

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I sometimes think pennies exist to go in my daughter's mouth.

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a terrible joke. I'm a new mom. I'm a

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>brand new mom. I spend most of my days trying

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 1>to convince my daughter not to try a new way

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 1>to commit suicide. Right right now, you see why our

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>parents are like tired by eight o'clock because they spent

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>the entire day like what do you have to do next?

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>But what can people expect from you in the future?

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Music wise?

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 3>A ton of it, A whole lot of it. You know.

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm someone I live by this theory of like leaving empty.

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to leave with nothing on my plate

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 2>and all the music I have I intend to release

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 2>and get out. I want to sit on things for years.

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm currently building crazy infrastructure at home. I keep saying

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm building Disneyland because we're building something like that completely laterally.

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 2>But really, I don't know. I don't have any expectation

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 2>of myself. So I think people shouldn't. They should just

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>enjoy the journey. Like how you say you've been spying,

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Like I hope when you spy you're smiling because it's

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>just it's a hell of a show to watch, you know,

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 2>it's a beautiful shavn't got to see too many artists

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 2>actually make it in front of us, right, Like we

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 2>see the resulting that the label post and share, but

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.959
<v Speaker 2>we don't see like them going city to city. Hey, yo,

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do a pop up, you know, like we

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 2>don't get to see that part of the journey, and

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm showing all of it. I'm showing us running merch

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>for filming out.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 3>Of my house.

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>My mom is dropping them, dropping them off, like I'm

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>showing the entire process, and we're sharing the gyms along.

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>So I think people should just stay tuned and this.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 2>We got enough sequels to beat the Fast and Furious series,

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, like coming.

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Like that when you do your pop YouTube pop up shows.

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, we're doing one tonight.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I just I just got off a plane and I

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 2>was like, man, I want to do a show. So

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>we announced it and now the show tickets have been

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>selling tonight.

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be at going to be.

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 2>This is This one's gonna be special because it's an

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>unplugged version and it's like live Q and A.

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Like people, I'm not gonna lie, like I would love

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to go. Please is hearing this?

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 2>What's dope about our shows is like this one is

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.959
<v Speaker 2>a bit different. But generally with our shows, like I

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 2>use the second half of my set to just let

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the fans choose the songs they want to hear and

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I rap whatever they say they want to hear, right,

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.239
<v Speaker 2>So it's like a really interactive show. We did one

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>in New York and Brooklyn. When we went out there,

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>it sold out in six hours, five hundred tickets.

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 3>So now I'm just kind of of been in.

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>This wave where it's like I just be like, I

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like doing it, and we do it and it

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 2>usually goes well.

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>And then who kind of does the logistics?

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>So myself for Nadi, he's a member of my team.

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 2>He helps with booking, Tiata helps with logistics. Millie is

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>on my team so anytime we go to a tour

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 2>route and she kind of plans and.

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Give a Guyan girl team, you've bounce.

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, okay.

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I like that because sometimes you work with people and

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>they like Slayholder, Like Charlemagne's company is pretty much ran

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>by women, Black women, which is amazing by the way

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>he treats man.

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be where I am without women. I have

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>a team of like the most incredible creative intuit in

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>women when it comes to just business and everything.

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, one of the things I did see, and I

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>could be wrong, maybe lack of research, but I feel

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>like on one of the things you have posted was like,

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>if people buy your records, they have like some kind

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>of ownership in it.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so not necessarily if you buy it some people.

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 4>So on.

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Usually on projects, I'll sell my album before it comes

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>to streaming, and anyone who buys that project is up

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 2>for selection to receive a royalty. So I usually go

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>through the list of buyers and I'll pick like fifty

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to one hundred people, sometimes one hundred and fifty if

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling good, sometimes two hundred, and I'll give them

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 2>a percentage of royalty in different songs from that album.

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 2>You can also buy royalties, like you could make an

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>offer to purchase a share.

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 3>So if you have a favorite.

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Song you like I love this song, I know it's

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna be big, or just I love this song, I

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 2>just want to have a stake in it, you can

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 2>make an offer to me and say I want five

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 2>percent of the revenue from this song.

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm willing to.

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Give you a thousand dollars five hundred dollars, and I'll

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>hit you and negotiate and say I'm willing to take

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>this or I'm not, and then I send you a

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>percentage to the distro you collect every month into perpetuity

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of your life.

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never heard of someone do that, bro, never

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard a song.

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 3>I was like, did he do what I.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Think he did?

0:31:58.400 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>How do you? How do you? How did you come

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>up with that? Though?

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Like how it was just a late night thought of

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I've always been split in revenue with my team.

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Everyone who helped, producers, engineers, they all get a percent.

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>So one day it was just like, we should give

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the fans some They listened to this shit every day.

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Imagine if your favorite jay Z song, imagine you listen

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.239
<v Speaker 2>to it every day, but you don't want to percent it.

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>My fans, like bagas Claim blew up. Some of my

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>fans had equity in that song when it first dropped,

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 2>a year before it even took off.

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 3>So they for the rest.

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Of their life, they're going to be getting money off

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>bagas Claim because they just made the right call.

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 3>They enjoyed this song so and then but.

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>They reached out to you, or how did you even

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>announce that?

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I made this big announcement and Tieta on my team.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 2>She created this form for people to go fill out

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>and you put all your information, you put your offer

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 2>amount how much you want. It comes to a database.

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I look at all the offers. I'll email you and say,

0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I send your offer, I liked it, I accept you

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 2>email me.

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I go through every offered.

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Personal badass even through email, Like when we do bookings

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and shit like, people are always surprised that they're talking

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>to me.

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 3>It's like, it's my business. Of course you're talking to me.

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>It makes sense, right. Most of my companies, for some

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>reason cannot get them past a certain threshold. I don't

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>know if it's like my whatever, but so most of

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>my companies are smaller. So I'll email, but I email

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>under an alias. It'll be like Samantha and it'll be

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>like Samantha.

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 3>John was so crazy.

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.479
<v Speaker 2>When I used to send out emails to get booked,

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 2>to go to venues and try to book them. I

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>used to act like I was my own manager, and

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>then eventually it's like, bro, it's me, I am the Russell.

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to the venue. This is what I want

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>to do right. And I've gotten so much more rapport

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>and response because it's like, of course people want to

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>talk to you, like I'm doing it right.

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>You didn't feel at some point it hinders, how much

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>more you can yet, because like I'll give it pretty

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>v uh. I emailed her and I'm like, okay, you know,

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>she responded and then like it was her, and then

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>she got on the phone with me. She like just

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>called me, and then I hear the Jamaican accent. I'm like,

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, I said, and we ended up vibing

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>on the phone like for forty five minutes. And but

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it was it was the first time that I cold

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>called emailed somebody and not only did they respond in

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>record speed, but I mean, first of all, that girl

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>is as humble as a yet right, But that was

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the first time that I've ever seen like someone on

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that level just be like, what's.

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Up, what's up?

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. She was like, what do you want

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>me to cook? I got beans and that I was like,

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? You're dope. I was just like

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, and it was past, no team,

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>no nothing, And you know, I didn't even know it

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>was her until she called me, and I was like, oh,

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's you. You know, that's like if jay Z calls

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>me after an email and be like.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, people usually get that same shock, but it just

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 2>builds a different relationship right big. You respect what someone

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 2>is building a lot more when you know they're working

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>it right. It's hard to fuck someone over when it's like,

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 2>oh it's you, Yeah.

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're right. There's a different rapport you have to.

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 4>Do.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>You have an internal rule about letting new people into

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 1>your camp because it seems like you have a very

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>large camp.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 2>It is kind kind of yeah, even my immediate group

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 2>is pretty large. There's not really a rule, just an energy, right,

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>if I know who I like and who I don't like,

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and who fits and who doesn't. Sometimes we'll try people

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>out and it's like ah, that didn't really work, and

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.959
<v Speaker 2>we kind of maneuver forward. But it's not really any rule,

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>just your energy, how you feel, how everyone feels about you,

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 2>how you feel about everyone, and we could usually get

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 2>a sense of that really fast. I also have like

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I like to work with people who work hard, like

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.919
<v Speaker 2>the best. You know, I don't want to It's like, bro,

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing at a high level at all times. If

0:35:58.239 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you can't keep up, you need to go on the

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>other court and play with the little kids for a

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 2>big to your game.

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Get up.

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Have you experienced failure or let me just rephrase that,

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>have you experienced perceived failure?

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 3>I hate the word, of course, yeah, of course me.

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>About like perceived failure and like what the experience was.

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Man, I've had shows where there was five people in

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 2>the crowd and I had to pay for a venue.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 2>I rented a sprinter van to get my team there.

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.240
<v Speaker 2>We brought the equipment, We brought a ton of merch

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 2>that we didn't sell because there wasn't no one to

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 2>sell it to.

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 3>And that was a tough ride home. You know, I

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 3>was silent.

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm usually the allowing and talking and talking, but I

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 2>was silent, right, And I've had several of those moments

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 2>of perceived failure even beyond that, just sometimes releasing merch

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and putting all your money into it and it doesn't

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>go the people don't react. Early on, I had a

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of albums. I dropped twenty two albums. I've had

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot of albums early on where I was like,

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be Yeah, we've been, we've been, We

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't blow nothing. Howels is a lot Yeah, way more coming.

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Twenty two owls, not even twenty two singles.

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 3>No, And that's just my catalog.

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I've written other EP single albums for a bunch of

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 2>other people. So, but just in my own album, it's

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty two.

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>When you experience perceived failure, can you walk me through

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts?

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Usually is negative first, right, It's all like I look

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 2>for all the problems, what I didn't do, how I

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't do it while I could have done it better.

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 2>And then eventually it just becomes like analytical solution based,

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>like I always want to I always want to prove

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 2>me wrong or anybody wrong. I'm like, well, I'm I'm

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 2>finna next time. I'm gonna do it triple besides, and

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be a success. But yeah, it's usually just

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that emmer emotional turmoil that comes with it first, where

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, you feel that dark cloud over you and

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you got a crowd. You got to sit in

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 2>that and kind of be in that space until you

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>could work through it.

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised that you didn't just say, well, maybe this

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>is a question. But in that negative space, have you

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>questioned your worth? Like whether you know, like, oh, well

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>five people. I get the logistics because I as an entrepreneur,

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I get like what did we do? What could we

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>have done differently? But in that negative space can you say,

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and you are prolific for sure, But have you questioned

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>your own.

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Not in music?

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Like anytime I failed in music, it wasn't a question

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 2>of my own worth. It was just like they don't

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 2>see it, right, I knew, I knew I was it.

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like they don't see it. I haven't done

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 2>enough work for them to see it. They don't see it.

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 2>So I've never questioned my worth in that aspect. If

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm questioning my worth, it's usually through some life shit,

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>like me doing something against my own morals or against

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 2>my own code, or just I let somebody down that's

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 2>dear to me. Those are moments I question my worth

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>when I can't show up for my daughter in a

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 2>way that I felt like I should.

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Things like that, but not music. And I put my.

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Hours career wise.

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, no, not career wise at all. I know

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>what I'm worth in my career. I know what I deliver,

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 2>I know what I bring forth, and even even through life,

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 2>like I'm getting to a point where I know my

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 2>impact and how significant I am to you know, the

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:32.760
<v Speaker 2>life around me and the world.

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm feeding a community community.

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>So there's a book I just recently checked out. I

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you ever heard of it. It's I'm

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 1>called male versus Man, dere Whitfield shout outs to him.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I picked up the book. I thought it was for men,

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:52.439
<v Speaker 1>but so I got it for my my friend, and

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 1>but I ended up reading it because I like to read.

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I got to get to a book.

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm literally in a book head. I am obsessed with books.

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But I read the book and one of the things

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>he pointed out in the book, which I will gift

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 1>you the book now that I have, I think I

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>have your address on it.

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:12.720
<v Speaker 3>I'll get to information.

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, But anyways, one of the things he talked about

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>was like the male versus man. You know, the male

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>is self seeking and the man is of service, which

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>is different problem. I never thought of that, Like, so

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>when a guy takes me on a date, I'm like,

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 1>are you trying to give me? Are you trying to

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>serve me? Now, at first I was like, oh, that's

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>messed up to like seek service, But as a female,

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>it's actually not, because you know, we seek protection and

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>we seek Some of us do need help providing, and

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>some of us need of course, everyone wants to be professed.

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Marry me. The announce the world. I'm the one. I

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>also am a hip hop head. And after reading that

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>book lately, it's like every song on the radio is

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like shout out to my sneaky link or or yeah,

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm having sex with my side chick raw. But I'm

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>never gonna leave you. I'm never gonna leave my family

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>for you. And and I'm like, yo, did he really

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 1>just say he's having sex with his side chick raw

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's why she's attached? And some of these lyrics

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>are so terrible to women. I'm like, at what point?

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And who is responsible? And this is just an honest

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>like friend or you know you you you have responsibilities

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 1>as a philosopher and entrepreneur and a leader and being

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a vulnerable man yourself. Like who do you think is responsible?

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Is it the art form? Is it the male energy

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>or is it us women? Uh?

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone's responsible, but I think everyone is accountable.

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I hear the same music coming from females as well.

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I agree.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I went into an ail salon I saw nothing but

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 1>strippers right all the.

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a responsibility, but there's an accountability.

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's one of those things that it's

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>hard to ever be what you never see, right. A

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of these men that make it in hip hop

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 2>and music, they haven't had great examples of leadership or

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of men that have that in them to not fall

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:21.439
<v Speaker 2>to desire, or that are disciplined or impeccable in their

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.919
<v Speaker 2>soul or fulfilled to where they don't need to seek

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 2>or go get extra and the same with women. So

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's just we often act these artists to

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>build things that they don't have the tools to build, right. Yeah,

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Like if you go look in their toolbox, it's it's

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 2>like you want to.

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 3>Build a house with us.

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like jay Z kind of touched on that

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>in I want to say four for four or one

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>of the altists like where he was the first one

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>to be.

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Where we've seen that, Oh wow, you've upgraded your toolbox, right,

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.839
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of artists don't have that. We're coming

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 2>out of environments that don't nurture that type of behavior

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 2>or system. Like when I was coming up, the older

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 2>men around me was like players too, Like, bro, what

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you feel me? So you grow up embracing that and

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:10.439
<v Speaker 2>wanting to.

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Be like that. That's what you replicate.

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 2>That's what you know, you don't see anyone I've I

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 2>don't think I've ever seen a man that was just

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 2>so in love and revered their family so much and

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 2>treated they women so well, like they meant the world

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to me. For me to be like man, that's what

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I want, right, Very seldom do you witness that and

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 2>experience that. But yet you expect someone to conduct themselves

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>in that manner. That's what's not gonna happen.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. So when it comes to accountability in your

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:47.399
<v Speaker 1>personal life, who holds you accountable? Is it? I don't

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>want to answer the question.

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Everyone around me in a sense holds me accountable in

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>some way, but ultimately me like I have to be.

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I have to be the one that wants to get

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.720
<v Speaker 2>up every day and put in work and be better

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>and want to drop my daughter off and pick her

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 2>up and do work and things like that. But everyone

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>around me, from myself, my mom, my dad, my daughter,

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 2>her mother, tiera Millie testing everyone are Fannie. Just all

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 2>of my friends hold me accountable in some aspect. They're

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 2>always in my You know, I can only stoop so

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 2>low sometimes before someone's like, hey, bro, what we doing?

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I like that? I like that, Okay, is there

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 1>anything that your fans are me don't know about you?

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean everything. I mean I guess you only know

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 3>the music.

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Well because you kind of signed a camera on your entrepreneurship.

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You also do all these little I don't want to

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>say little, but these gems on social media. So when

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I say is there anything we don't know about you?

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're it's like you learn a lesson.

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>You're like, let's put it out there, learn that put

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>social battle that I be, like, I don't know if

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to get personal, man, real.

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 2>No such thing. I've had the really reals and I

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 2>shared there's no such thing. Because there's a billion people

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 2>in the world and someone's been through exactly what you've

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 2>been through, and they may need your help, right, but

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you're refusing to hell, you have all the tools and

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 2>all the means to help them, but you're refusing to

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 2>do it because of your own fear, right, And like,

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to deny nobody of that tool.

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Like I want people to be able to grow.

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>If that's going to be through me just sharing what

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I felt or experienced, that's an easy call, right.

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you do? And the the world is always a

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 1>sensitive around this top, but I'm gonna go ahead and

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>throw it out there. But like, do you believe in therapy?

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you do therapy?

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:08.919
<v Speaker 2>So I recently started therapy, probably a few months back,

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 2>and I had a few sessions and it's cool. I'm

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 2>not consistent with it because I don't feel like I'm

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 2>gaining much from it. But I also had like an

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 2>expectation of what I was supposed to get from it,

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>like I'm supposed to be here, like I have a

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 2>new sessions. It's like, man, I'm an old new man, right,

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.320
<v Speaker 2>And that's not how it happens. And for me, I

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 2>just realized that it was worth that I need to

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 2>do right. I don't need anyone's help to be a

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 2>better human. I just need to choose to be a

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 2>better human and commit to that. That's not something I

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 2>need to talk to someone about. If you want to, yes,

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>But for me personally, it's like I built an entire empire.

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I could definitely build myself.

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 3>As a man, right. I don't need anyone's assistant to

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 3>do that. But I chose.

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I've chosen not to, right, I've chosen not to allocate

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 2>my energy towards that which is the only reason I

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 2>haven't grown in any way that I wish to.

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 1>It's funny you say that because I recently full vulnerability here.

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I recently did try therapy and I kind of felt like,

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>oh man, this is gonna sound really shitty for all

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>those people that give it to them. But I felt like, yeah,

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't getting the response in that I needed, in

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the record speed that I needed, And it was like

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I knew the answers, but I just wasn't choosing to

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>make the choice that I needed to make. And in therapy,

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>it takes so much uprooting of your childhood to get

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to the route that I was, like, yo, I'm not

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to relive the thing that I ran from, like

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to give me PTSD. Like no, I'm good, But

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I do agree with you, and I'm glad you were

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>honest about that because people say therapy therapy, therapy, and

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I actually thought you weren't gonna say that you do

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 1>therapy because I low key feel like your vulnerability and

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 1>your lyrics is a form of therapy.

0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, Definitely, that's where I get to get all of

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 2>that from.

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.959
<v Speaker 1>And someone gets you, man, and like, because I feel

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>like Drake, every time.

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Writing and talking really helps.

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing about the past, like you're saying,

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 2>and that shows you how much you're how deep your

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 2>trauma is because you think like speaking about it is

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 2>reliving it. You can't relive the past, right, It's already

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.240
<v Speaker 2>been lived, it's gone. It only exists in your memory.

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 2>You can't relive it. But we when trauma hits in

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>a certain way, it makes you feel like you're going

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 2>through that experience again, but it's not. And you really

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 2>have to work through that to get You got to

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 2>go through it to get through it, right.

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or you can try. I don't. I tried my

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>hardest to I believe. I tell myself this. Every storm.

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 1>At the end of every storm is a rainbow. So

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:53.959
<v Speaker 1>the faster I don't cope through it, or the more

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I do not cope and numb, the faster I get

0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>through the storm. So like if I were to numb

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>some and drink, get high, have sex, or do whatever

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>it is, go go to the mall, look pretty, whatever

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I gotta do, go to the clubs. If I cope

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.760
<v Speaker 1>through it, then it's gonna take me longer to heal.

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 1>So if I go through it and like blow up

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:18.440
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriends then to strangers and seven elevens. You know whatever,

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get through it faster even though it's gonna hurt,

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>like you know what I'm saying, right.

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 2>So definitely, you definitely prolong the healing process as you

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 2>as you act right. Every every twinkie you eat just

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>makes you closer to the opposite end of where you

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 2>want to be, right, like exactly, And that's how it

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 2>is with everything. Every time you do another act that

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 2>goes against what you want to be, you're just adding it.

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Because the thing with with how the human system work

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 2>is the more you do something, the better you get

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 2>at it. Right, So the more you live fout, the

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 2>better you get at it. Some people are phenomenal cheaters,

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:57.399
<v Speaker 2>and it's because they do it a whole lot. Yeah, right,

0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>So every time you do it, you're getting better at it,

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.880
<v Speaker 2>which needs it's going to take a lot longer to

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 2>get better in the other direction because you're so exceptional

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 2>at what you do. If you lie a lot, you're exceptional,

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 2>it's going to take you a lot to become someone

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:12.879
<v Speaker 2>who tells the truth exceptionally.

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's deep. That's deep, but I think at

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, I mean, I personally give

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 1>people a lot of grace. I'm one of those people

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that you could literally push me off my seat and

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>be like I was just angry. My bag clams, so

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh no, it's okay. But now I'm

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>at the place where it's like, I get it, you're angry.

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to sit next to you anymore.

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Like take your anger out on the flowers over there,

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, But it's a pleasure to have you. I know,

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 1>we kind of we're all over this space. I really

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 1>would like to go to your show tonight. I know, yes,

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I do have some plans, but I'm a pivot and

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a mother now, so trust me, everything is like

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a babysitter, babysitter, nanny, babysitter is like any amount of

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 1>freedom cost you have to come.

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 3>This is going to be special.

0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely gonna come. I am a true fan. I

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>have so much admiration for the way you run your businesses,

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:06.880
<v Speaker 1>how everyone gets a buy and how everyone gets an

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>option to invest in, how you partner and do this

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>restaurant where it's like pay what you what you want

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:18.839
<v Speaker 1>which is brilliant and it's just something that a lot

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>of artists aren't doing right, you know. And I love

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the vulnerability and your lyrics. So I'm truly thankful that

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>we finally got you on the show. Thank you all

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:33.240
<v Speaker 1>listeners for checking out another episode of Eating While Broke.

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have Larrussell

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 1>in the building. Where can they find your? Like your

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Instagram handle? What's your Instagram?

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm at Larussell on everything.

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 1>L A.

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 3>R us has EOL.

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 2>You can find me on social media on DSPs, at

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:51.240
<v Speaker 2>home in Valleo, walking around.

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:53.839
<v Speaker 1>So oh you stay in the Bay.

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I stay home. I live where I'm from and I'm

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 2>there every day. I'm taking my daughter to school. I'm

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:04.280
<v Speaker 2>baking it up, man mamos, checking in on people. I'm around,

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm at home.

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>They when they told me that I got you, it

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 1>was like I had like two days notice, like you

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 1>know or whatever. And I was like negotiating with the

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 1>team everyone's schedule. There's like four people that have to

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>all Onligne schedules, and uh, there was a hiccup and

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like going back and forth, like, yo, do you

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:27.320
<v Speaker 1>think we can push back and we're all like, no,

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:30.759
<v Speaker 1>it's not worth it, and we got an hour, let's

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 1>take it. But thank you and thanks for feeding me.

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>You and I both agree, you know, moving forward, we

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 1>could do eggs, but maybe on a dinner garlic bread.

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Dinner garlic bread, then all right pie y'all.

0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, beautiful